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live oh that's no that's fine because it'll share on Facebook from Twitter

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yeah so they haven't managed to break that yet hi welcome to the WAN Show

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where we're just we just carry on whatever internal We Wan away with our

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conversation yeah as long as there's no uh you know it's all about positivity

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though no whining whining

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whining oh my goodness there's music I don't know what sound is coming out of

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my lap oh right it's a thanks twitch all right so we've got a

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bunch of great topics for you today actually we have a handful of really

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great topics for you guys today cars

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were hacked well one car was hacked but it was done wirelessly which is the big

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concern Pro gamers are they using drugs

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yes yes a license to Kill drones also

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tashiba lied about an insane amount of money yeah like like this much money

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yeah actually a lot more than that actually yes well no depends on which

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movie oh yes intro time

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I fix it y b up

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glass best dance screen projectors out there thanks Batman yeah no problem

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Christian pale has Batman andor's Phantom glass which it cuz it's like

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Phantom right cuz he's like which is actually more of a Star Wars thing than

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a Batman thing cuz the that's really

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funny he has my wife in his phone with my last name she actually never changed

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her last name uh so I'm just going to you know what what I won't do is jump

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right into like our big topic for today which is that um hackers managed to gain

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a fair amount of control over a vehicle

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uh while it was being operated by by a person and I'm going to go ahead and

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jump into one of the slightly smaller ones so this one is from naked

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security.com I'm going to go that's my favorite website other than lips.com and

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L media.com and youtube.com/ techtips

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and ifixit.com and Phantom us what the heck not now um all right so

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this one is uh the headline here is

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right to destroy or right to kill drones

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at least that's our headline for it uh so here it is naked security uh dreams

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of Legally slapping drones out of the sky May Come true um which I guess Luke

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is going to take over because now there's a handful of people waiting for

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me outside the all right room I'll be right back this is easily the best

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coordinate coordinated least problematic W show we've ever had we've I I I don't

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think not having a phone call in the middle of it from uh one of the owners

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of the company would have been any better and I don't think that uh having

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lonus leave partway through Would Have Made It any better either I think this

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is literally the perfect state that it could have been in I just wanted to

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clarify that I'm getting another phone call this is fantastic the more phone

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calls that I get the better off the show is actually going to be I just wanted to

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point that out there anyways moving on to dreams of Legally slapping drones

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over the there I guess lonus has it on screen can I scroll down at all yes I'm

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going to put text there so that it's literally impossible to get anything

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from it is there any other screenshots no we're going to go back up to the

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Drone so I am not very up to date on this topic but

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I do know that a few times in a few

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different areas uh people haven't been able to put out fires due to drones

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being in the way helicopters have had to be grounded because the drones are

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getting too close to them and they're worried about the helicopter crashing

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and it's just generally kind of a terrible idea now speaking of terrible

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ideas one of the ways that they're planning to combat this is by uh they

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would disable the drones using jamming technology which would end up blocking

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Wi-Fi and GPS signals to drones making

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them ultimately crash the problem with this is that it would also block calls

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and messages to mobile devices meaning if they're going to do this in dangerous

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zones they would be blocking people from using their cell phones which is

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terrible that's actually a terrible terrible idea so to avoid having drones

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being in the area they're blocking the usage of cell phones so if you're in the

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dangerous area you won't be able to contact anyone that's outside of the

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dangerous area just seems like a really stupid

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idea they need a better way to take down the drones I I like those uh I liked that

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drone that deploys a net over other drones yes the hunter drone yeah the

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hunter drone that was absolutely I was kind of thinking like like mount something on the helicopter that has

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like a net an anti- drone gun or

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something you know what I kind of have to pee maybe I'll just come join the show and all right yeah uh another thing

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that I was thinking of is like if you have a really skilled helicopter pilot

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just try to get him to squat on top of the Drone all of a sudden so like come

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over hover above it also the blades on the helicopter must throw drones like

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crazy unless I guess you have a really really expensive one anyways I'm worried

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about the legal response that they're trying to imply here um because I'm

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scared of cell phone blocking not because I'm scared of the drones falling

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I don't give a crap about the drones at all um destroy them all you want I just

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I do worry a little bit bit about blocking emergency

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communication because you want to take down a drone I think there's got to be

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some better way to do that uh there's a quote from assembly man Gat in

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California he says just because you have access to an expensive toy that can fly

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in a dangerous area doesn't mean you should do

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it cool uh I'm sure a lot of the people flying these drones probably didn't

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realize the negative implications of flying it in the first place uh now they

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probably know that doesn't mean they're going to stop doing it I'm sure a lot of these people are trying to sell footage

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to the news so they'll do it for whatever reason they don't care if they

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can get money uh so putting in some form of Law and having a right to destroy the

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drones is great I just don't know if

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blocking all of the GPS and Wi-Fi

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communication is a good idea Nerf

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cannons send out another helicopter with your rescue helicopter that's just like

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dudes with like Nerf turrets and stuff yeah I don't think Nerf would really do

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it though yeah no probably not some of the like if if we were talking like

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drones then probably but if we're

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talking like the um uh the 3dr solo that

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we just that we just checked out that thing is pretty robust like I can

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imagine having to hit it with like you know a 5B projectile at least to really

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make an impact unless you manage to hit a propeller or something like it it's

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pretty robust so yeah I don't I don't have the

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solution it's just it's fairly clear that jamming signals is is not it but

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with that said if the intention is to

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jam signals you know kind of kind of uh EMP bomb style you know for 10 seconds

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or 20 seconds need to take the Drone out of the sky then I don't think that's

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what the plan is but I can't actually say cuz I I would I would assume that it

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wouldn't be used as a weapon I would assume that it would be used as a passive thing right where you just have

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jamming on well no because they're jamming GPS too and I'm sure a rescue

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helicopter is going to want its own GPS working it's not like there's GPS pixie

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dust that makes if you're jamming GPS then yeah I think it's mostly for

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fighting fires so if you can't find

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it time to just pack her up and go home

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but you're right um you're totally right

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I don't know all right so let's get into one of our other this is just I don't

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know this is just kind of funny if you don't oh yeah and if it was an EMP the

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helicopter would very possibly go down yeah no I don't mean EMP I just mean

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like turn on the jammer for 10 seconds turn it off yeah cuz Jammers are just

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exactly like you you can buy Jammers you shouldn't they're illegal yeah but

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you'll get in trouble if you do so yeah well you'll get in trouble if you use it

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I think in certain I think in can I looked into it uh in Canada I believe

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they are illegal to import illegal to own illegal to operate but I believe

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there are places where they're legal to import and own but not legal to operate

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like almost nowhere are they legal to operate they basically shouldn't exist

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but they're they're pretty easy to make yeah and there's ones that and they're

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inexpensive there's ones that are kind of like you could shut down everything

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within kind of a movie theater type radius sort of thing so if it's like or

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like on a bus that you're traveling on so it's like I like I was looking at it

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as more of like a prank thing like I was like I should get like a super low

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powerered one so if I'm sitting next to my sister or something this this is when

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I was younger right be like you know you

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know like the classic uh you know Extra TV remote behind your parents like that

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kind of thing but uh it's it's pretty serious business if you get caught using

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them so I really wouldn't Rec someone in the chat was saying that uh they should

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just combat whoa that looks Skitch um they should just combat the drones by

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having Deployable um maybe extendable

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fire PES on the helicopters they just whack them like a giant like fly water

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yeah or like H hold on a second what if

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they had a silly string Cannon like industrial no industrial

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grade Silly String so rope Yeah well yeah well

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that's boring when you say it like that less

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fun but yes essentially rope thank you

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so the net right so we're all the way back to

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the net um so toshiba's CEO has resigned

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over 1.2 billion dollar accounting

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Scandal oh my um over years it wasn't

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like all of a sudden in one deal they magically made a fake 1.2 billion can

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that ad not be blocked are you kidding me all right there we go sorry about

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that you guys um so eight board members

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including Vice chairman have resigned their posts as part of a major

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management reshuffle their current chairman was named interim president and

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this is one of oh oh this is this is funny so uh yearend dividends and

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postpone earnings have been cancelled so

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there there will be no dividends unfortunately on the fake money yeah

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toshiba's stock has dropped around 20% since early April when the accounting

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issues first came to light here's what I'm kind of curious about why did anyone

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actually believe that Toshiba was making money what what do they even

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do they sell some laptops not that many of them I do know that and they bought a

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company right but do they do they even

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still make TVs I don't know I have one of theirs and I

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like it there you go tashiba Canada 3D TV LED TV okay let's just okay let's

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let's go to toshiba's website I'm just curious what do they actually do I mean

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when's the last time you saw a tashiba tablet I remember back when the first

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round of like decent Android tablets were rolling out back in the Tegra 2

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days so you had like the um the Motorola

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Zoom you had the ASUS transformer like

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TF101 or whatever that thing was you had

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the uh the Samsung one that we actually still have deployed to this day the

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Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then tashiba had one

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that was just like awful uh tashiba I

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want to say

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thrive tashiba thrive tablet 10.1 8 gig yeah that was

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it it had that like massive bezel I was just going to say it's a huge bezel yeah

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and it was like super thick and just like generally kind of it thrives off of

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a little bit too much food yeah it was just kind of stupid compared to

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everything else so let's like look at all this stuff so here you know what we

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got to straw pull this we got to straw pull this have you bought anything from

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tashiba in the last year nice yeah

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no me neither so we have two nose

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Good Start okay oh wow there's a

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whoa yeah there is this is the new straw straw P's been updated we can make you

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guys do a capture before answering if we

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didn't want to get any responses to our straw PES Al how everyone is answering

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in the twitch chat guys we don't look at it except when we do y no no no no no no

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no no no no like yes that is how people do polls it's like if I wanted to

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conduct a national survey I would just I would just like have an open phone line

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that people just call in and say their answers and then I wouldn't write it down I would just sit there and I'd kind

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of go oh yeah it really seems like 22% um so laptops desktops tablets

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computer accessories like I got to I got to know I got to know what computer

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accessories oh I think I'm on the support site so this might not even all

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be current stuff all

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right t.ca sorry okay

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yeah we're sorry sorry tashiba

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accessories blowout they make UPS's

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apparently okay okay Office Products uh

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oh large like like large

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multifunctions Telecom stuff

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bags monitors portable store storage okay so

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like rebranding stuff a lot of this is going to be rebranding stuff okay they

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make industrial stuff like point of sale this and that and barcode printers UPS's

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surveillance systems medical MRI systems

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oh wow okay okay so xray involved in

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that kind of stuff uh digital signage so

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very very industrial industrial oriented

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but of course that relies on winning bids and uh whereas consumer can be more

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can be more run rate business so having a look at how the results are looking

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wow a mere 11% of you have bought

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anything from tashiba in the last year

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speaking of turnips by the way the vote for turnip shirt I think this is the

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last day oh my gosh I haven't ordered one

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yet okay I need to uh I need to get my

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order going here 3 hours 3 hours left so

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I'm going to have like an hour after w show an hour and a half after W show to

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deal with this all right um vote for payro yeah what's our

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next oh next topic okay doping in orts

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this is before we move forward check here was it touch screen what's

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this uh blah blah blah oh yeah yeah I just did that yep yep all good no what's

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this oh I see um so where are we going

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to what's going on what's going on

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doping in Esports dop in Esports all right did you uh copy that into the

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twitch chat I'm working on all right I'm going to bring up the I like closed the

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I closed the W show Doc I have no idea what's going on today so I guess there's

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two different sort of major questions here

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um number one is you

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know why are no I guess there's one

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major question here um who didn't know

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about this

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yeah why are we pretending that this is

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some kind of surprise oh my God we need to work with

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like drug agencies and stuff to drug test people for things that literally

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everyone's doing and we all knew was happening like the ESL guys I'm sure

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they knew of course they did I knew I don't even follow Esports and like I've

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been aware of this for literally years like little land tournaments that

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I used to go to people would do it there yeah like there it's not like there

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weren't guys with like Ridin at land

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tournaments and I'm not saying that no one is legitimately on Ridin believe it

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or not I've got a bit of a you know bombastic personality I think that's uh

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not not too hard to uh pick up on there at one point or another I might have

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been on Ridin with a prescription it did Mellow Me Out by the way but you know I

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lost some of my energy which I think is sort of how it works um improved my

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focus though that's for sure so I I I

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guess I just what is the controversy

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here the I guess the controversy like

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they've known enough to have it in their

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regulations that you're not allowed to use performance-enhancing drugs and

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they've also known enough to not build

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in any kinds of of penalties for using

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them because if they penalized players

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for using performance-enhancing drugs they know that they're just it's going

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to be like yeah Major League Baseball all over

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again because everyone's roiding so to speak even though they're not roiding

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because you don't actually need like a huge ARM to operate a you know what is

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it 63 grams for a final I I think Pasa biceps would uh would disagree well Bas

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okay I did specifically I specifically brought up the final Mouse for that

00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:07.200
reason you got a heavier Mouse you know you got a g502 you know you got a

00:19:04.919 --> 00:19:12.000
wireless mouse with some AA batteries in there then a you probably shouldn't be

00:19:10.360 --> 00:19:17.600
like professionally gaming on a wireless mouse but that's a whole other whole

00:19:13.679 --> 00:19:19.280
other conversation um the point is is

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that this is this is just kind of hilarious so this a former Cloud9 player

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Corey sefus freezen who said in an interview quote I don't even care we

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were all on Aderall

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and this uh this is this is this is

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great so the interviewer and interjects with everyone does Aderall on ES at esl1

00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:47.799
right to which he replies in the affirmative and then what an awkward

00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:51.200
moment that is because you know I got to

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give I got to give freezen credit

00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:57.960
here because this is totally not the way

00:19:55.200 --> 00:20:04.720
this story plays out usually we're talking years years or Decades of denial

00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:07.520
and lengthy legal processes to to to

00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:13.080
prove that you know someone was someone was doping instead we're taking the

00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:18.600
honest path here it's like and and this is this is Again part of the reason why

00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:23.640
I am confused as to why anyone thinks that this was a secret because it's not

00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:29.080
like in in an interview it would be unusual to handle the question this way

00:20:26.280 --> 00:20:35.760
but in casual conversation it's not a secret so um I guess I just I

00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:40.720
don't really know what else to say I mean what are what are they doing what what's the action plan here I don't I

00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:45.280
think there there's some plans to bring in certain drug agencies like let's see

00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:48.440
here we're taking the steps to level uh we're taking the steps to level with

00:20:46.919 --> 00:20:51.600
that's a weird sentence to level with traditional Sports and it's going to

00:20:50.080 --> 00:20:56.960
take a while before any Esports organization will administer regular drug tests we hope to speed this process

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up proactively by seeking advice from authorities and starting small

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full-blown drug tests at Esports events are far away but that doesn't mean we

00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:10.840
can't and shouldn't try to tackle the

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issue what is going on I'm just

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popular I'm just basically a cool

00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:24.760
guy yeah I know right got a badass over here um so I

00:21:20.360 --> 00:21:25.799
mean here's a h so we're yeah we want to

00:21:24.760 --> 00:21:30.039
blah BL basically they're going to work on it it's going to take a while it's been happening for literally forever and

00:21:28.679 --> 00:21:35.440
everyone knew it was happening and they only care because it was brought to the spotlight and a whole bunch of people

00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:37.039
were like wow I didn't know about this

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and then that's about it you know self Park did that great episode about uh the

00:21:40.320 --> 00:21:46.600
the whole Tiger Woods cheating thing um

00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:52.159
where basically like every male on the planet is involved in this gigantic

00:21:49.120 --> 00:21:55.679
conspiracy where they're pretending that

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you know men with money and

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power wouldn't they have to be like sex raised and like diseased in the head to

00:22:01.360 --> 00:22:07.080
leverage that to you know mate with as

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:11.440
many partners as they can kind of thing like like the and I'm not I'm not saying

00:22:09.360 --> 00:22:16.600
that everyone with money and power is you know running around sleeping with

00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:20.960
tons of women or anything or any woman might you know I'm just I'm just saying

00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:26.080
it's one of those basal basal instincts is sewing the seed and so anyway it's

00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:32.159
this gigantic conspiracy that no one can understand why what could drive a man to

00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:35.240
do that and they just kill anyone who

00:22:32.159 --> 00:22:37.600
you know let lets the women on to that

00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:44.039
like it's it's a fairly it's a it's a fairly natural thing to you know try to

00:22:41.520 --> 00:22:47.320
create the the best Offspring by you know and lots of them and like all that

00:22:45.840 --> 00:22:53.320
kind of stuff it's just kind of a human nature thing this feels very very

00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:55.279
similar in the sense that it's like the

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least well-kept secret on the face of the Earth and yet we're pretending that

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oh my God this was happening wow no one takes steroids in

00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:09.840
football ever why would you do that I

00:23:06.679 --> 00:23:12.720
don't know you know what's funny the NHL

00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:16.840
manages to keep their uh manages to keep their face pretty clean on most of that

00:23:15.320 --> 00:23:20.720
stuff there is surprisingly little scandal in the NHL compared to a

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:25.880
football and basketball yeah I wonder why that is I actually have no

00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:30.440
idea I legitimately don't know because you can May ice skates can't melt steel

00:23:27.760 --> 00:23:36.480
beams um because you can you can look at

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:39.440
certain things about about a sport like

00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:44.640
barrier to entry um you know regions where a really high barrier of entry for

00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:47.440
for ice hockey but you could make this a very similar argument about something

00:23:45.919 --> 00:23:52.200
like football I don't think even as much not

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:55.520
as much that's true but you know compared to something like basketball

00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:59.240
where literally anyone can go shoot hoops at the local basketball court

00:23:58.120 --> 00:24:05.159
because there are lots of them but even football

00:24:02.360 --> 00:24:10.320
um like hockey if if you play like floor hockey in the street your barrier of

00:24:06.840 --> 00:24:12.400
Entry is pretty low but it's also quite

00:24:10.320 --> 00:24:16.520
different from ice hockey playing football in the street with your buddies

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:20.919
I would even argue is more similar to actual football right that's a that's a fairly

00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:26.799
good argument because because at least your like fundamental movement properties don't change yeah yeah

00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:31.320
whereas ice skating even the most similar thing we have to ice ska which I

00:24:29.080 --> 00:24:35.720
guess would be rollerblading is really not that close I was a very good

00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:41.120
rollerblader and a trash ice skater I could go really fast but I couldn't like

00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:42.880
stop or Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore wait

00:24:41.120 --> 00:24:45.679
yes yeah that is Happy Gilmore oh my gosh I screwed up I thought I had the

00:24:44.120 --> 00:24:48.960
wrong movie reference for a second I was like that's like one of my all-time

00:24:47.320 --> 00:24:53.480
favorite movies how can I screw this up don't go watch pixels pixels what is it

00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:57.080
do not go watch pixels what's pixels it's an it's from Happy Gilmore

00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:02.000
Productions what is Happy Gilmore Productions happy Gil more uh wait what

00:24:59.919 --> 00:25:06.200
is it you mean Adam Sandler yeah but he has a production company does he really

00:25:04.679 --> 00:25:12.200
it's terrible all these things actually

00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:16.000
happen in Adam Sandler's pixels well

00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:18.000
this is a kataku article we have

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:24.159
Productions as you've likely heard it's a bad movie almost pleasingly stupid Act

00:25:21.399 --> 00:25:28.559
One a young brener and young Cooper pedal to a new arcade called the

00:25:25.760 --> 00:25:32.679
electric dreams Factory we see cabinets Pac-Man brener enters himself into the

00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:38.799
1982 worldwide arcade Championship where he loses a tiebreaking Donkey Kong title

00:25:35.080 --> 00:25:40.440
bout to Eddie plant Dan Acro MC's the

00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:45.360
tournament and announces that footage of the games will be included on a probe

00:25:42.520 --> 00:25:48.760
that be is being sent into space well that's already completely

00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:55.480
incoherent there's amazing video reviews of this where people just tear it apart

00:25:53.559 --> 00:26:00.120
the president summons brener and Ledo to the Oval Office has been analyzing the

00:25:58.399 --> 00:26:04.120
alien attacks and has invented light guns that can destroy

00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:09.320
them okay sees a couple of light guns all

00:26:06.840 --> 00:26:14.320
right well did you see it no no okay I've just seen many a review that tears

00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:18.159
it apart and you brought up that dude so I thought I would just bring up to

00:26:15.919 --> 00:26:23.559
people to not go watch that movie not go watch pixels okay okay got it so um you

00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:26.360
know what I people are like spoiler alert and a whole bunch of people in the

00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:29.799
chat were like you can't spoil an Adam Sandler movie

00:26:30.399 --> 00:26:38.039
that's such a good answer Adam Sandler is silly Adam

00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:43.600
Sandler dicks around for an hour and 20 minutes Adam Sandler

00:26:40.320 --> 00:26:45.799
prevails basically yes yeah pretty much

00:26:43.600 --> 00:26:49.840
all righty then uh you know what I actually kind of want to straw pull the

00:26:47.840 --> 00:26:54.240
whole the whole Esports doping thing because you know what sometimes we get

00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:59.480
caught up in that everyone knows this but actually it's not that common

00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:01.640
knowledge uh Esports doping

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:09.240
I didn't know uh I suspected but wasn't sure and

00:27:06.600 --> 00:27:13.760
then okay well yeah we suspected actually no cuz we saw it lands yeah I

00:27:11.679 --> 00:27:18.000
literally but if you've never been to a land then I guess you would suspect I

00:27:15.600 --> 00:27:22.760
have literally seen people who have literally told me that they literally

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:30.000
did not have a legitimate prescription legitimately taking in this case not

00:27:25.399 --> 00:27:31.919
Aderall but it was Rin so um I've been

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:35.679
uh at one pack that I was at in a Counter-Strike tournament that I was in

00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:40.360
there was people taking Aderall and rlin and stuff and me and my buddy weren't

00:27:37.520 --> 00:27:43.600
taking out our all in riddlin but we had like you know those balls Guana energy

00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.960
drinks right before our match I think we had like four and then there was these

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:50.480
caffeine energy mint things we both ate an entire pack and I was sitting there

00:27:48.919 --> 00:27:54.640
like almost shaking that must have been really bad for it was because of reasons

00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:59.720
that I didn't know about yet which is why I was shaking right um but that we

00:27:57.600 --> 00:28:03.880
did really well we did like super well my performance

00:28:02.159 --> 00:28:07.760
was way higher than it normally was here is a great question uh that I that I

00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:12.039
think is that I think is actually a pretty important one because if Esports

00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:18.000
is going to pretend that we're going to tackle you know performance enhancing

00:28:14.600 --> 00:28:19.960
drugs uh do you think that you know

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.960
chugging down energy drinks should be considered a per performance-enhancing

00:28:21.600 --> 00:28:27.399
drug like should you have a tolerable level of caffeine even

00:28:25.320 --> 00:28:31.720
interesting I don't know apparently lots of people didn't know about it that is

00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.880
that is super definitely a uh well this

00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:41.600
could be people that don't follow Esports mhm that's another question um

00:28:37.600 --> 00:28:44.200
but caffeine's a drug isn't Guana also a

00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:47.320
drug yeah blah blah I can't I can't remember I think it has an active

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:55.679
ingredient or something something but but uh caffeine is should so should

00:28:50.720 --> 00:29:00.080
excess caffeine be a performance

00:28:55.679 --> 00:29:03.039
enhancing drug yes no that's a lot to

00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:05.799
test for yeah can you easily test for how much caffeine is in someone I

00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:13.880
actually don't know and it would be completely unprecedented because I think

00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:17.080
in in in most um like professional

00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:19.480
athlete type scenarios you could make

00:29:17.080 --> 00:29:24.760
the argument that caffeine wouldn't necessarily be a a performance enhancer

00:29:22.360 --> 00:29:28.559
strictly speaking whereas in in a land event depending on you know how late it

00:29:26.679 --> 00:29:33.480
is uh you know how long you've up and all that kind of stuff it could have a

00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:38.919
huge a huge impact I actually like I don't even know like something like um L

00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:43.760
man are they are they allowed to chug energy

00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:48.640
drinks that's super interesting or are they expected to do it

00:29:45.679 --> 00:29:55.399
naturally um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah you know what let us let us

00:29:52.480 --> 00:30:00.840
know the greatest endurance race has its own brand of energy drink it is a

00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:06.080
special drink for drivers and helps them stay focused contains caffeine ginsing

00:30:03.760 --> 00:30:09.840
extract and vitamin B but it doesn't actually say whether they're allowed to

00:30:08.120 --> 00:30:13.559
consume them or not I assume if they have an official one that they can but

00:30:12.120 --> 00:30:19.600
but I don't know very very interesting thing is

00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:23.200
Esports events uh organizers limit the drugs blah blah blah it will be super

00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:27.799
stupid if you were on a cool drug that made you con a cold drug that made you

00:30:25.399 --> 00:30:30.960
deced for being sick it's a uh blah blah blah

00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:36.919
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah You Can't Ban caffeine so there you go

00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:40.760
there's also like tolerance levels for caffeine is a huge thing too isn't it

00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:44.519
and I mean a lot of people are bringing up that lots of Esports teams are

00:30:42.360 --> 00:30:49.399
sponsored by energy drinks oh yeah I mean energy drinks and gaming they go

00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:55.360
together like you know peas and carrots my friends orange and black orange and

00:30:52.919 --> 00:31:01.559
black no I think orange replaced black so if energy drinks oh Orange Is the

00:30:58.159 --> 00:31:03.559
drinks became Gamers and played games

00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:10.080
see I was doing it because of the LT Colors oh I not because of Netflix shows

00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:12.919
Okay so we've got 50% of you saying no

00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:18.279
but actually a surprising 30% of you saying yes excess caffeine should be

00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:23.440
considered a performance enhancing or nancing drun is apparently what I wrote

00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:28.080
I could probably use in caffeine um and uh you can ban things

00:31:27.080 --> 00:31:32.519
from events that aren't aren't Controlled Substances someone in the chat was like You Can't Ban caffeine

00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:37.279
from the event it's not a controlled substance you totally oh yeah for sure

00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:40.159
you can absolutely a sport you could ban the wrong type of shoes you can ban

00:31:38.679 --> 00:31:43.960
alcohol well I guess that's technically a controlled substance but the point is

00:31:42.399 --> 00:31:47.919
you can ban whatever you want ban people from wearing a specific type of t-shirt

00:31:46.080 --> 00:31:53.080
I'm not yeah I I went and played badminton at a local like like a country

00:31:51.360 --> 00:31:58.639
club like it was actually you have to have the right type of shoes You didn't mark up the floor um no no oh the story

00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:02.159
is better than that okay so no no any Badminton Center won't let you in the

00:31:59.960 --> 00:32:07.919
front door with black so shoes even if they're non-marking yeah no way clear

00:32:04.679 --> 00:32:11.039
souls or get out yeah um cuz like those

00:32:07.919 --> 00:32:13.679
mats are I think 10 grand M each so you

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:19.799
run around putting marks on them get it out um so I had never been

00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.760
to one of those types of places like you have you ever to a country club yeah

00:32:21.679 --> 00:32:30.519
like like that style of establishment for golfing once okay so I

00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:33.399
didn't get to go inside right exactly I specifically stayed outside so I was

00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:40.039
allowed inside we were kind of snuck in so it's

00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:46.080
kind of a long story but I know someone who who knows someone who um who got

00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.360
grandfathered into a membership here even though the sister club that they

00:32:47.600 --> 00:32:52.480
were a member of that got them grandfathered in is much less expensive

00:32:51.120 --> 00:32:57.960
this one is apparently like tens of thousands of dollars to buy your initial

00:32:54.679 --> 00:33:01.639
membership plus your annual fee like

00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:05.480
like balling things I would never do so

00:33:01.639 --> 00:33:08.360
anyway I um I I came to play badminton

00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:12.840
on there're like completely empty and like the floors were amazing like

00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:18.720
there's the there's there's there's like gym floors which kind of suck because

00:33:16.120 --> 00:33:22.080
the grip isn't great and the the impact can be is very heavy it's kind of harder

00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:25.360
on your knees then there's the rubber floors which have like kind of a padding

00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:30.080
those are the green ones that you've seen and that's actually what they play

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:36.159
on professionally and then there's really good gym floors so really good

00:33:32.919 --> 00:33:37.799
gym floors actually have spring to them

00:33:36.159 --> 00:33:42.559
uh some people don't know this but you can design a gym floor so that it

00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:45.240
actually has like a suspension system

00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:50.120
basically to it and that's where you get the the cushion that you would normally

00:33:46.919 --> 00:33:52.519
get with like foam but you get the uh

00:33:50.120 --> 00:33:57.000
you get the but you also get the like the smoothness and the the impact of a

00:33:54.679 --> 00:34:02.559
wooden floor and if it's well finished it's it's gorgeous was great to play on

00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:04.679
anyway we didn't realize until or or our

00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:08.919
guest or our host who who allowed Us in didn't realize until we showed up that

00:34:07.120 --> 00:34:13.119
he had forgotten to tell us that it's white clothes only oh my God so I was

00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:17.800
actually in one of the and the funny thing about professional badminton is

00:34:15.839 --> 00:34:23.399
you go and you look up the greatest badminton player of all time arguably

00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:29.480
definitely in the world right now and every picture of the guy he's wearing

00:34:26.399 --> 00:34:31.280
red and gold for the team China um it's

00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:36.760
it's not a thing in professional badminton this is just a snoody here's

00:34:34.240 --> 00:34:39.480
our house rules thing so I guess I don't really remember where I was going with

00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:45.399
this the point is that you can have whatever rules you want with respect to

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:47.200
attire and substances and anything and

00:34:45.399 --> 00:34:52.359
that's basically it I've got people bringing up Serena

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:57.920
Williams it's not even the right sport yeah I mean she does hold a racket

00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:03.280
and didn't she get wrecked by some dude who's like ranked 200 or something yeah

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:07.560
but like come on I and I think that was the you're saying best in the world This

00:35:04.640 --> 00:35:13.520
Is An Open Bracket the guys count okay yes yes you could you could

00:35:10.680 --> 00:35:19.000
say that uh fun fact about Badminton is it's the only Olympic sport where men

00:35:16.359 --> 00:35:22.400
and women compete on the same field at the same time against each other that's

00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:29.400
cool yeah interesting hey yeah uh okay so why

00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:30.880
don't we move on um

00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:39.920
what do we got here let's do a let's do a rapid fire topic this is interesting

00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:43.760
so iOS 8 is at 85% adoption Google is uh

00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:46.000
relatively uh quiet about uh lollipop

00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:49.119
over there so let's go ahead and post oh I posted the wrong one in the twitch

00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:53.680
chat trash poop yeah lollipop you know I'm really

00:35:52.240 --> 00:36:00.400
worried about the Droid Turbo because I got lollipop 5.1

00:35:58.240 --> 00:36:06.720
like a week and a half ago okay so the odds that I'm going to

00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:08.240
get Eminem or marsipan or marshmallow or

00:36:06.720 --> 00:36:13.960
whatever it is they're calling it the odds that I'm going to get that ever I

00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:16.000
consider to be fairly low and I don't

00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:19.079
know I think it's some app that I'm using that got an update recently or

00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:25.160
something but droid turbo I'm like barely making

00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:27.800
it through a day right now on lollipop I

00:36:25.160 --> 00:36:32.480
only used it for like one day so maybe it was a really you know heavy flow day

00:36:29.839 --> 00:36:36.880
so to speak so I'm I'm at 5.0.2 and this thing like the only

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:41.359
reason why I like this phone is one cuz it's waterproof which is cool and two

00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:46.560
because it just lasts forever right like I I very rarely charge my phone two

00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:50.359
three times a week cups and it just survives the whole time yeah so I'm I'm

00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:53.599
having trouble but anyway that's uh there's there's there's a lot of other

00:36:51.680 --> 00:36:57.040
issues with lollipop I absolutely hate that's not a droid turbo no this I'm not

00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:02.359
using droid turbo right now it's S6 active I hate the way that lollipop

00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:05.359
piles up your like notifications as just little icons instead of just letting you

00:37:03.720 --> 00:37:10.599
scroll through them who thought it was a good idea to make one touch wait for an

00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:15.520
animation and then scroll through your notification idea it's like you're using

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:19.040
a desk who thought that was a good idea idea because it feels like you're moving

00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:23.760
papers on a desk cuz I get a lot of notifications people are always giving

00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:27.960
me crap in my phone reviews about like you've got so many like things in your

00:37:26.040 --> 00:37:32.480
things I'm like you know what I never clear them because there's literally no

00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:36.800
point it will fill up in like 20 minutes oh I just got 500 Instagram

00:37:34.040 --> 00:37:41.400
notifications okay y but then you still need notifications on because it'll tell

00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:44.400
you when certain people do something so

00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:47.400
Apple has managed to get 85% of their

00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:50.079
active users on iOS 8 133% are running

00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:54.079
iOS 7 and a mere 2% are running an earlier version of iOS I mean part of

00:37:52.640 --> 00:37:59.640
this is you could probably make the argument that Apple does an okay job of

00:37:56.760 --> 00:38:04.079
planned obs lence through degraded performance like my iPhone 4 runs way

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.800
worse than it used to uh there's other reasons why it might run way worse

00:38:05.640 --> 00:38:10.920
definitely the operating system but there's also definitely other reasons

00:38:08.839 --> 00:38:15.079
and things have gotten more demanding we expect more from our mobile devices and

00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:17.319
the app developers are happy to deliver that to us and we're just going to have

00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:21.680
to upgrade our Hardware to keep up because quite frankly even an Android

00:38:19.200 --> 00:38:25.480
device from you know five years ago or like how how old of a device do you have

00:38:23.520 --> 00:38:30.040
to have to be stuck on iOS 6 that would be like four to five years ago

00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:36.680
an Android device from that kind of era is going to be horrible like absolutely

00:38:32.720 --> 00:38:39.520
horrible for everything so um Google it

00:38:36.680 --> 00:38:46.440
looks like their numbers Android 5 is accounting for a mere

00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:50.280
11.6% of devices with 5.1 just

00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:55.359
0.8% with the vast majority so that's uh

00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:57.440
39.2 plus 37.4 still running um Kit Kat

00:38:55.359 --> 00:39:04.000
and jelly bean it's almost an even SPL spit there so it's almost 80% on Kit Kat

00:39:01.160 --> 00:39:08.800
and jelly bean yeah not quite but almost so lollipop is a flop for whatever

00:39:06.520 --> 00:39:14.400
reason and hopefully the next version of Android t- rash yeah I I don't know I

00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:20.160
had a lot of people rubbing their Nexus phones in my face when I was uh running

00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:23.160
the droid turbo on KitKat and I was just

00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:23.160
like

00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:31.040
K # long hair don't care is that a #uh I

00:39:28.680 --> 00:39:35.400
don't know all right let's uh speaking of things that everyone should care

00:39:33.359 --> 00:39:41.720
about let's move into what is really our big topic of the day oh God hackers have

00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:43.560
managed to remotely kill a Jeep on the

00:39:41.720 --> 00:39:48.520
highway original article here is from wired.com let's go ahead and pull that

00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:53.839
up it's not a very picture heavy uh article here so there's not a whole lot

00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:56.839
for me to visually show you guys but

00:39:53.839 --> 00:40:00.160
here's the Jeep uh after its breaks were

00:39:56.839 --> 00:40:02.520
remotely disabled sending it into a

00:40:00.160 --> 00:40:07.000
ditch so we'll give you guys the whole skinny on this I'll make my way through

00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:10.240
the very detailed uh summary that I think Nick has been quite hard at work

00:40:08.839 --> 00:40:14.359
on and would be upset if I didn't somewhat make my way through it so

00:40:12.560 --> 00:40:19.599
basically it was a showcase piece uh done by wired featuring hackers Charlie

00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:21.319
Miller and Chris valis um it's a result

00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:26.319
of some car hacking research that they've done over the last year it's a

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:32.400
zero day exploit that's targeting Jeep Cherokees that give the hacker wireless

00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:37.720
control of the vehicle and it's not full control for example the hacker cannot

00:40:34.640 --> 00:40:41.319
take control over steering unless the

00:40:37.720 --> 00:40:43.760
vehicle is going backwards yeah so if

00:40:41.319 --> 00:40:46.880
you're going forward the hacker cannot take over your steering uh but there's a

00:40:45.560 --> 00:40:52.240
lot of other stuff they can do so they're able to send commands to the

00:40:48.839 --> 00:40:55.000
2014 Jeep's dashboard functions steering

00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:58.920
brakes and transmission through its Entertainment System uh in this this

00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:03.960
case they were 10 m away from the vehicle but the exploit is not limited

00:41:01.839 --> 00:41:07.359
by distance so they were able to mess with air conditioning radio windshield

00:41:06.040 --> 00:41:15.079
wipers and then they cut the transmission they can also kill the engine entirely at low speeds abruptly

00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:17.720
engage the brakes or completely disable

00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:21.839
the brakes it can also track GPS coordinates measure the speed of the

00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:26.119
vehicle and drop pins behind it on a map tracking where it is going so this isn't

00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:32.640
the first time that wired has done a piece with these hackers about car hacking but it is the first time that

00:41:29.640 --> 00:41:35.200
the hack could be carried out wirelessly

00:41:32.640 --> 00:41:40.720
which is obviously a much greater concern than if

00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:44.040
someone gains physical access to your

00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:45.520
car and you know injects Mal still

00:41:44.040 --> 00:41:50.880
that's still freaky because your car is going to be parked in public parking lots a lot that's still a super big

00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:55.440
problem and honestly will continue to still be a super big problem because

00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:57.280
we'll be a lot a lot easier than

00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:01.400
wirelessly hacking a car so we still have to Super pay attention to that but

00:41:59.640 --> 00:42:05.599
wirelessly hacking a car especially being able to mass do it like what if

00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:12.640
someone turned off all the brakes on every Jeep all at once that would be

00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:17.520
bad that' be terrible they claimed that they like oh well we like we didn't

00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:22.119
think it was that big of a deal no one's going to do this right we just make cars

00:42:19.720 --> 00:42:25.119
we don't have to worry about it which is pathetic and I'm sure someone internally

00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:33.440
told them at some point in time and they were just like whatev um

00:42:28.839 --> 00:42:35.559
and there's always oh God dear um this

00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:41.000
is hilarious oh yeah that's coming uh but yeah so there's there's there's

00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:46.920
problems with this because car companies are notorious after everyone watched

00:42:42.680 --> 00:42:48.800
Fight Club for um having their their

00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:53.040
their calculation where they try to decide whether or not it's worth

00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:56.559
recalling something that's not really going to work anymore because with

00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:01.119
something like that you can see it progressively happen over time like okay we had a few accidents here we had a few

00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:04.520
accidents there all right we'll pull them all back so we don't have more with

00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:10.480
this it's going to be like oh there's an exploit oh every Jeep is compromised

00:43:07.319 --> 00:43:13.720
yeah and to be to be clear this is not

00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:16.599
just one vehicle so it's uh This was

00:43:13.720 --> 00:43:20.960
done through UK connect which is uh hold on let me just see I I want to I want to

00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:24.800
get like the wording for all this right because it's kind of a serious topic uh

00:43:22.839 --> 00:43:30.559
so that's the entertainment nav phone management and Wi-Fi hotspot aspect of

00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:33.200
Chrysler and their sub brand vehicles

00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:37.000
and it is estimated that there are as many as

00:43:34.359 --> 00:43:42.760
471 th000 vehicles on the road with vulner vulnerable UK connect systems in

00:43:39.839 --> 00:43:47.559
the US now now it's only been fully tested on a Jeep Cherokee but the

00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:54.839
hackers believe that they could access any car with a UK connect head unit now

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:58.280
the big concern to me about this is not

00:43:54.839 --> 00:44:02.599
that a car got hacked but it's that the

00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:05.440
auto makers live in such a different

00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:09.599
world than the high than the high technology companies that we generally

00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:16.119
talk about whether it's your Googles or your apples or your microsofts where

00:44:12.839 --> 00:44:19.599
they'll see something like this and with

00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:22.280
exceptions treat it like a big deal and

00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:27.440
and act on it quickly car companies are used to operating on a much longer

00:44:25.319 --> 00:44:33.040
development cycle you know we're talking it could be a half a dozen years from

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:38.079
the first you know drawing on a napkin to a car with rubber tires on it that

00:44:36.040 --> 00:44:41.440
drives on the road which probably looks like all the other ones which probably

00:44:39.720 --> 00:44:47.440
looks like all the other ones so so we're we're talking like best case

00:44:44.200 --> 00:44:51.119
scenario the vehicle that you're driving

00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:54.280
today has incorporated ideas that are as

00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:57.640
old as you know five six or even more

00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.680
years ago is why um

00:44:57.640 --> 00:45:05.000
like investigating Car Technology is sometimes really boring yeah because

00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:06.640
it's like oh they have a 7in tablet

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:13.119
that's 480p yay okay and a super grainy camera

00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:16.680
and you have to use a dial thing to do anything because it's not a touchcreen

00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:20.040
yeah so but but that's just that's just something that we have to understand

00:45:18.040 --> 00:45:25.000
though is that these guys work on a very very different cycle whereas security

00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:30.079
guys you know if you go if you go talk to someone at you know um EET for

00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:34.720
example or you go talk to someone at McAfee they're going to be like uh yeah

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:39.480
you need to be on that stuff like right away or it's a or it's a huge problem

00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:45.520
and so Chrysler's statement really underlines that difference in Attitude

00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:46.960
to me in a terrifying terrifying way the

00:45:45.520 --> 00:45:52.200
way that the fact that they thought it was okay to address this this way so

00:45:49.640 --> 00:45:57.680
they stated that they appreciate Miller and valek's work but under no

00:45:55.079 --> 00:46:03.240
circumstances does FCA condone or believe it's appropriate to disclose

00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:08.000
howto information that would potentially encourage or help enable hackers to gain

00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:14.440
unauthorized and unlawful access to Vehicle Systems so they don't even

00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:18.760
understand the concept of white hat at

00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:21.160
all they think it's okay to release that

00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:25.680
statement that they don't even understand why it's important for the

00:46:23.319 --> 00:46:28.839
code to be out there and for people to understand the exploit for it to be

00:46:27.520 --> 00:46:34.880
closed and they're like oh we didn't think they were going to release the code so we were just like ah I'm just

00:46:32.200 --> 00:46:38.640
like okay they want someone found it someone else can and we'll find it if

00:46:36.839 --> 00:46:45.920
they they just want to they just want to you know hide in their shell of that

00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:48.839
people won't do it so we can just ignore

00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:54.640
this and if we just don't talk about it then it will go away it is not going

00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:59.480
away cars are getting more and more intelligent and more connected and as

00:46:57.040 --> 00:47:03.359
cars get more and more computerized control over more and more of their

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:07.359
features we're talking self-driving cars and as little as what musk figures five

00:47:05.839 --> 00:47:14.280
six years yeah I mean this becomes this becomes an

00:47:10.359 --> 00:47:14.280
episode of Doctor Who extremely

00:47:14.359 --> 00:47:19.800
quickly um I've never watched Doctor Who but I'm going to nod my head knowingly

00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:23.559
yeah it's a great it's a great episode The the bad guys take over everyone's

00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:27.400
cars and drive them into lakes and stuff oh that's not good basically this

00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:30.599
happens um so let me just see if there's anything else that we can that we can

00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:34.240
really that we can really add some chat said then they tagged me just wait till

00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:38.160
Tesla gets hacked it has to happen eventually very probably anything that

00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:42.559
can connect to something can be hacked like we said that's not the issue here

00:47:40.319 --> 00:47:48.680
no the issue here is is their response their response is completely wrong and

00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:52.800
just I love Tesla they're also not invulnerable yeah no one's perfect no

00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:57.000
but instead of acknowledging that no one's perfect and you got to get your

00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.760
act together and create an internal task force and publicly talk about the

00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:06.680
internal task force that you're creating to address this and keep your an eye on

00:48:03.319 --> 00:48:08.119
it for the future um I don't remember

00:48:06.680 --> 00:48:12.839
how I started that sentence so it's hard for me to finish it coherently but the

00:48:10.319 --> 00:48:17.400
point is that's the way to deal with it yeah not to just go well hey you know

00:48:15.359 --> 00:48:21.680
you guys we don't condone you guys releasing this because now everyone's

00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:28.200
going to know about it uh yeah including you so fix it that's how you do

00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:30.240
this um uh

00:48:28.200 --> 00:48:34.960
so yeah the the hackers had the the usual sort of response as like yeah hey

00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:39.359
this would be pretty good for a hacker um and you know we that they think it's

00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:44.680
they they believe that releasing the portion of the code is important since it allows their peers to prove their

00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:51.400
work um and holds automakers accountable for their digital security I mean

00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:53.960
remember guys there white hat is not

00:48:51.400 --> 00:49:01.000
about finding an exploit and then releasing it to a bunch of you know Bad

00:48:57.359 --> 00:49:03.599
Dudes before notifying the company who

00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:08.839
the code belongs to I promise you they contacted that company first exactly

00:49:06.160 --> 00:49:14.520
Tesla has a $10,000 Bounty for any hacks apparently just got told by our buddy

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:16.839
techbench TV um so they're actively

00:49:14.520 --> 00:49:20.480
trying to get people to submit stuff like this so that they can fix it I

00:49:18.799 --> 00:49:23.799
didn't even know that that's fantastic good job Tesla that's how you should

00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:28.119
respond to these things you should try to welcome these guys with open arms and

00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:32.359
be like yeah yes thank you for finding this here is some money here's some

00:49:29.720 --> 00:49:36.520
money here's a big bag of money maybe try to work with us on fixing it maybe

00:49:34.720 --> 00:49:40.559
not I don't know whatever thank you here's money goodbye there could be more

00:49:38.040 --> 00:49:44.640
bags of money involved or potentially a job even that's honestly a way that a

00:49:42.799 --> 00:49:49.200
lot of people get hired so this is really scary um US senator Mary uh one

00:49:47.640 --> 00:49:52.160
of the leads on the new security legislation for the national highway

00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:56.880
traffic safety administration and Federal Trade Commission uh sent a

00:49:53.920 --> 00:50:01.000
letter to 20 automakers so again this this underlines sort of my point about

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:05.000
the automakers and how they approach technology asking them a series of

00:50:03.040 --> 00:50:10.240
questions about security practices the answers to it showed quote unquote quote

00:50:07.720 --> 00:50:13.680
excuse me a clear lack of appropriate security measures to protect drivers

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:18.920
against hackers who may be able to take control of a vehicle unquote only seven

00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:23.680
of 16 respondents said they hired independent security firms to test their

00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:27.680
vehicles digital security and only two said their vehicles had monitoring

00:50:25.240 --> 00:50:33.040
systems that checked their car internal Network networks for malicious digital

00:50:30.319 --> 00:50:38.640
commands so the takeaway here is not that Chrysler and Jeep um are dumb and

00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:43.720
their cars are bad and super hackable that's not the point the point is this

00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:50.440
is a huge attitude shift that needs to happen in the automotive industry and

00:50:45.839 --> 00:50:53.079
right now is scary to the point where

00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:59.559
like I'm not I'm not much of a fearmonger I tend to mostly live my life

00:50:56.319 --> 00:51:02.319
without without the tin foil hat

00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:08.640
but this could affect automated things are scary and this is why Elon and

00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:12.559
um can't remember his name right now dude in the wheelchair super crazy smart

00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:16.240
does research his time Sten Haw there we go Stephen Hawking Elon Musk and Stephen

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:22.520
Hawking have both been pushing really hard to research the potential downsides

00:51:20.799 --> 00:51:25.880
and research stopping those potential downsides of AI and Automation in

00:51:24.359 --> 00:51:32.200
general and that's a very smart thing that should be doing and we're

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:33.640
not it's like I don't know some people

00:51:32.200 --> 00:51:42.119
I've said this a few times people gaw at me a little bit but it's it's kind of like we're making the nuke again right

00:51:38.040 --> 00:51:44.000
with Automation and Ai and we're kind of

00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:49.319
not really worrying about the downsides too much

00:51:46.640 --> 00:51:53.799
again and yeah I hope we don't go that rout all right so I just dropped a straw

00:51:50.680 --> 00:51:56.200
poll on you guys does this news affect

00:51:53.799 --> 00:52:00.240
the way you'll shop for a tech heavy cars

00:51:57.319 --> 00:52:04.640
because I'm going to be honest guys like it was actually it was actually Ed edel

00:52:03.200 --> 00:52:09.440
who told me about this initially we were filming something out in the garage and

00:52:06.839 --> 00:52:14.000
he's shopping for a car right now and so immediately like the first thing I asked

00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:17.599
him is does this affect the way oh there's a Tesla outside not a Tesla oh

00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:21.280
wait what what are you talking about isn't that a TLX I wouldn't know a TLX

00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:26.760
from a hole in the wall I'm not a car guy I thought that was why you were I thought it was a Tesla no it's just that

00:52:24.680 --> 00:52:30.839
car has never been here before and it's been here for the last little bit oh

00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:37.319
okay can I help you I think that's his

00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:43.400
who's Ed's oh did he buy one I don't know he

00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:47.000
lied to me anyway it's been here consistently during work hours for the

00:52:45.160 --> 00:52:50.720
last little bit oh okay well the point is I thought it might have been someone

00:52:48.200 --> 00:52:54.040
else's I don't know yeah not a car guy at all can't believe I didn't even know

00:52:52.520 --> 00:52:58.400
that they don't look that similar do I think it is whatever I don't care okay

00:52:55.720 --> 00:53:03.680
the point is that Ed's Ed was shopping for a car at least and might still be so

00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:08.920
what I said was okay well does this news affect you buying a car that is more

00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:13.920
technology heavy and I also pitched in that you know I have a lightly used 2003

00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:19.400
Honda Civic that's manual everything including everyone in the chat is like

00:53:15.839 --> 00:53:22.920
it's a spy it's Logan it's Logan in

00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:25.200
including a manual transmission and I've

00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:30.079
got to say for the first time ever I felt like my mom

00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:35.920
where she kind of has this she has kind of this innate distrust of social media

00:53:33.799 --> 00:53:39.319
and posting information on the internet the stuff that my generation doesn't

00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:46.280
really think about the same way that hers does about technology and I kind of

00:53:42.799 --> 00:53:48.760
went yeah I feel pretty good that

00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:54.480
there's no camera in my car and there's no and and like the brake pedals

00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:56.920
connected to the brake pedal thing the

00:53:54.480 --> 00:54:01.359
brake pedal thing connected to the disc thing the disc thing is connected to the

00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:05.359
wheel thing and the car just stops like that no outside

00:54:03.160 --> 00:54:09.960
interference I felt pretty good about that for the first time ever and one

00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:12.200
thing that's a little sketched too uh is something that I don't think any of the

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:17.359
articles are talking about right now which is the proof of things happening

00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:22.640
if someone cuts your brake line in real life your brake line's

00:54:20.040 --> 00:54:26.880
cut okay pretty straightforward if someone cuts your brakes digitally and

00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:32.280
then exits and there's no way to tell that they did that then all of a sudden

00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:35.720
you're liable for mowing down oh look

00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:37.480
there was a registered no press on the

00:54:35.720 --> 00:54:41.960
break and there was a registered full press on the pedal and you ran over 100

00:54:39.680 --> 00:54:47.799
people uh you're screwed yeah you're criminally liable in that case potenti

00:54:43.680 --> 00:54:49.839
like registering a key press so this is

00:54:47.799 --> 00:54:56.000
like some scary stuff we've actually got 57% of you and this is a techsavvy

00:54:52.040 --> 00:54:57.760
audience I think 57% of you saying yes

00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:02.920
this affects the way you'll shop for a tech heavy

00:54:59.200 --> 00:55:05.079
car with 22% of you saying turnip and

00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:09.319
only 20% of you saying No this won't affect the way you shop incredible hey

00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:14.480
it would affect the way that I would shop I would I wouldn't go with ones

00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:16.880
that were answering this way not saying necessarily I would go with the Tesla

00:55:15.640 --> 00:55:23.280
because they're drastically way too expensive but I would not go with any company that was answering in that

00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:26.400
matter um in related news Fiat issues a

00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:27.839
software patch after hackers take over

00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:34.599
that car so there you go um speaking of it not

00:55:32.319 --> 00:55:39.000
being there's actually no there's no evidence that the particular model that

00:55:36.240 --> 00:55:43.319
they were patching is is affected in any way but uh there you go I mean here's

00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:50.799
another here's another thing where like again the car maker mentality is just is

00:55:47.799 --> 00:55:52.480
decades behind um you know you see so

00:55:50.799 --> 00:55:56.760
many things whether it's your phone or your computer or or you know your game

00:55:55.160 --> 00:56:01.160
console or even your t you know TVs traditionally move a lot

00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:06.720
slower than computers but even they're caught up uh over the a firmware updates

00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:10.920
over the air patching you know cars don't even have that so if all of a

00:56:09.200 --> 00:56:16.920
sudden you have to install you know security updates for your car every

00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:20.039
month Tesla's do uh Tesla's do but no

00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:22.720
one's even no one's even thought of this

00:56:20.039 --> 00:56:26.720
they were they were so far behind in their thought process that they built

00:56:24.160 --> 00:56:32.240
all this networking functionality in and literally didn't build in a way for

00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:39.160
users to just patch it by pressing a button so

00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.880
yeah um wow and then this is also

00:56:39.160 --> 00:56:45.359
related so Fiat is a sub brand of Chrysler Chrysler to recall 1.4 million

00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:49.480
Vehicles after the remote hijack bug was found it's a voluntary recall which is

00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:54.200
related to the firmware thing that I was saying because the voluntary recall is

00:56:51.200 --> 00:56:56.920
just a a flash such a

00:56:54.200 --> 00:57:01.520
weird thing to call it it's like it's voluntary for one so a

00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:04.079
voluntary recall is just a little weird and then they're not even really

00:57:02.520 --> 00:57:08.640
recalling the car you're just supposed to come in and get it patched which

00:57:05.799 --> 00:57:13.079
means they recalled it you're just like you're going to give it back to you hey

00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:18.760
you can come get a patch I don't know yeah so the they they figure yeah it's a

00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:24.039
software update it's not a voluntary recall so uh affected cars include Dodge

00:57:22.160 --> 00:57:28.400
Vipers RAM trucks Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees Dodge Durango Chrysler

00:57:25.799 --> 00:57:32.880
200 300 uh Dodge Chargers Dodge Challengers and uh Chrysler owners can

00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:36.440
enter their Vin at a provided website to check if their vehicle is included in

00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:41.960
the recall yeah so someone in the chat uh

00:57:39.240 --> 00:57:47.440
nail puppy voluntary recall equals we are doing this because we were forced to

00:57:44.799 --> 00:57:51.799
yeah so I don't our legal department was like hey you should probably do this so

00:57:49.640 --> 00:57:51.799
we

00:57:53.799 --> 00:58:00.039
did that oh this is this is great so

00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.880
more more stupidity uh the company is

00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:06.160
unaware of any injuries related to software exploitation nor is it aware of

00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:10.559
any related complaints warranty claims or accidents independent of the mediate

00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:13.760
demonstration someone in twitch chat just reminded us we have to do sponsor

00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:18.880
Chrysler spokesperson oh thank you for that uh not clear uh oh oh oh oh this is

00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:24.400
great issues will be discussed uh more deeply at next month

00:58:21.640 --> 00:58:30.799
stepcon it's like because you have a month to deal with these kinds of

00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:32.920
things you super don't by the way uh

00:58:30.799 --> 00:58:38.119
Chrysler's statement the software manipulation addressed by this recall

00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:43.440
required unique and extensive technical knowledge prolonged physical access to a

00:58:40.839 --> 00:58:50.160
subject vehicle and extended periods of time to write

00:58:45.359 --> 00:58:53.039
code as if that's a barrier at all it's

00:58:50.160 --> 00:58:56.039
like it's like they think that techsavvy coders

00:58:56.880 --> 00:59:04.119
aren't everywhere I that's really stupid

00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:07.240
H and so another it was kind of hard great so we didn't think we had to do

00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:11.640
anything about it great quote from The Verge um it's not clear If the message

00:59:10.359 --> 00:59:16.440
was about the importance of this was fully received as Chrysler insists it's

00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:21.359
only taking the step out of an abundance of

00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:23.440
caution I I couldn't even abundance of

00:59:21.359 --> 00:59:27.119
caution now I'm just getting mad I'm actually like like I'm getting upset

00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:32.520
this is why but this is what I'm talking about this is why I wouldn't purchase from one of those companies if like like

00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:36.200
this is why I would definitely take this into consideration with purchasing a car

00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:39.400
I wouldn't necessarily avoid purchasing a high-tech car I would just purchase a

00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.720
high-tech car from someone who's probably going to give a crap about the

00:59:41.240 --> 00:59:50.960
car once I buy it from them it's like why why is the why is

00:59:47.839 --> 00:59:53.559
the ah like why did the American

00:59:50.960 --> 00:59:59.440
automotive industry just collapse because they've got their heads

00:59:56.319 --> 01:00:03.000
completely up their own butts Still

00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:06.280
Still this is the reaction to a

01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:11.000
potential to an opportunity for them to

01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:14.000
turn this into awesome PR like hey we've

01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:17.079
allocated this many millions of dollars

01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:19.640
to this bounty program and this and like

01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:27.160
a quick reaction not we'll discuss it in a month because this patch is an

01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.160
overabundance of caution

01:00:29.640 --> 01:00:35.880
okay well I just got some good news we're getting like a sick like uh

01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:40.520
conference cam from Logitech for our for our boardroom at the new office it's

01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:42.039
like an $800 webcam nice essentially

01:00:40.520 --> 01:00:45.920
with like a bunch of connected features and like ball and microphone hopefully

01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:48.880
it's good because you know I've been to a fair amount of conference rooms and

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:53.480
used a fair amount of those conference cams not a lot of them are trash

01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:57.839
Logitech is so proud of this particular one that they've basically discontinued

01:00:55.400 --> 01:01:00.880
the entire rest of their webcam lineup and they're just focusing on this one

01:00:59.520 --> 01:01:07.000
that's cool yeah all right we'll try that so um oh right right sponsor spots

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don't think we have I fix it yeah the kit anymore I don't have one the kit we

01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:17.319
needed it which I guess is actually a pretty good which is a good thing so

01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:21.960
what can we say about iFixit other than that they have great tutorials on their

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website it's ifixit.com and the site is pretty self-explanatory it's so that you

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the first person I can fix it yes like I

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can fix my own things I'm not going to fix your stuff everyone in the audience

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can say I can fix it and it's true because

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push with us is the Protek tool kit but quite frankly I've talked about the

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Protek toolkit enough that you guys you probably know it has most of what you

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will need to disassemble and reassemble things like tablets and smartphones and

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uh laptops any kinds of kind of smaller Electronics one of my favorite things

01:02:08.640 --> 01:02:13.400
about the protect toolkit and I fix it in general is when you read one of their

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tutorials and they'll tell you what tools you need yes so they've actually

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you can buy like that magnetic sheet that I use whenever I'm disassembling uh

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smartphones and laptops that have a lot of different kinds of screws I used it

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in my iMac disassembly uh they've got like they've got stuff like the adhesive

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have to worry about your phone at all and they've actually got a lot of

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different options um I am really liking the iPhone 6 edgo Edge this one's cool

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because normally with a screen protector whether it's Phantom or anyone else the

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screen protector sits on the screen and then you'll have a ridge around it no

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matter how thin your screen protector is with the edge to edge one it's actually

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a complete glass panel for the entire front of the phone and then it's just

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colored in the same spots as the original one so other than the um the

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fingerprint sensor home button being a little bit recessed which I like I've

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got one of these on my iPhone 6 that I use intermittently all the time making

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it a little bit harder to get my touch ID to pick up sometimes it just feels

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like holding my phone exactly the way it was so they support a whack ton of

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looked at them as well they're sitting in the $35 to $40 Canadian range wow

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01:04:55.680 --> 01:05:04.520
so we want to move on to yet another massive topic for this week

01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:06.440
insane so uh this one original article

01:05:04.520 --> 01:05:10.880
here actually I I forget which article I read On It originally but um here's one

01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:17.319
from the register this one is just kind of based on a quote from John McAfee the

01:05:13.640 --> 01:05:19.839
Ashley Madison hack May destabilize

01:05:17.319 --> 01:05:26.240
Society so if you guys didn't hear about this earlier in the week there were uh

01:05:24.319 --> 01:05:33.359
37 million some odd people plus that had a pretty

01:05:31.319 --> 01:05:38.200
stressful morning on Monday this week I wonder if

01:05:36.200 --> 01:05:43.279
anyone was like paying really close attention to their spouse to see if they

01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:47.640
were like hyper stressed out I I don't

01:05:43.279 --> 01:05:50.839
know man um you know if I if I suspect

01:05:47.640 --> 01:05:53.000
it already or something like that I

01:05:50.839 --> 01:05:57.799
would be I would be following this whole thing pretty darn closely so for those

01:05:55.400 --> 01:06:02.279
of you you who are not familiar with Ashley Madison it's a site that is all

01:06:00.799 --> 01:06:08.760
about well okay I'll start I guess I'll open with their tagline life's short

01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:12.799
have an affair so the site is a dating

01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:14.799
site for married people um and not for

01:06:12.799 --> 01:06:19.920
married people with each other for married people with other more different

01:06:16.839 --> 01:06:21.720
married people um to be fair there's

01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:26.079
some people on the site that are in poly or open relationships but I think that's

01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:29.240
not the majority of it so just wanted to make sure that people don't freak out in

01:06:27.680 --> 01:06:33.039
twitch chat and go like well some relationships are okay with it yeah we

01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:40.319
realized that I just think the majority of them are not so basically the hackers

01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:42.079
submitted a um submitted a a demand list

01:06:40.319 --> 01:06:46.720
that was pretty much look you need to shut down this site shut down uh I

01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:52.319
forget what their other sites are called they're they're not as famous they're not as common but shut down your other

01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:59.160
sites or we are going to release they had not only the user database of the

01:06:56.119 --> 01:07:01.319
current active users but Ashley Madison

01:06:59.160 --> 01:07:07.039
had a service for I think1 18 or $19 that supposedly wiped all of your

01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:13.599
information from everywhere they still had it so the hack

01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:19.119
oh my retrieved that information as well so so the the Hacker's demand is

01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:24.240
actually looking like it could cost less for the Toronto based company than the

01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:29.319
lawsuits that could result in I mean can you even imagine imagine the liability

01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:34.119
that you're on the hook for if you arguably caused a divorce which could

01:07:32.279 --> 01:07:38.279
arguably in the case of you know if people are millionaires or

01:07:35.319 --> 01:07:43.520
multi-millionaires cost Millions upon millions of dollars um I can't find the

01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:49.799
dollar count um other websites that they owned

01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.960
were uh Cougar Life and established men

01:07:49.799 --> 01:07:56.680
there's other websites as well but I don't yeah oh those were the ones that they demanded that they shut down so uh

01:07:55.240 --> 01:08:01.799
the this is this is good I mean there's articles all over the place so to be clear I don't I haven't been following

01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:06.559
it all week unfortunately I really wish I had and I really wish that I sort of

01:08:03.640 --> 01:08:09.839
had had checked on it before uh before this again so the 37 million users are

01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:15.839
are worldwide I think they operate in something like 40 countries apparently it's um if you combine all three of

01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:22.080
those websites the ones that I just named it's 50 million people not 37 37

01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:26.440
is just Ashley Madison so U but the other ones aren't quite as uh quite as

01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:32.000
targeted towards uh well I guess established men

01:08:29.480 --> 01:08:35.159
in a lot of cases probably would be although I don't think it's specifically

01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:38.679
targeted at having an affair in the same case anyway the hackers didn't

01:08:36.799 --> 01:08:42.040
immediately release all the information but what they're saying is that they

01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:47.080
will they're going to keep pushing it out as the site stays online so of

01:08:45.480 --> 01:08:52.159
course there's all kinds of so so people are getting outed already so this is an

01:08:49.480 --> 01:08:58.359
outed Ashley Madison user talking to uh talking to the Toronto son so he may be

01:08:55.080 --> 01:09:01.120
the unluckiest cheater of all time so

01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:05.920
just two were outed on an infidelity Vlog uh blog after a hacker group

01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:09.960
calling itself oops hold on a second dang

01:09:06.799 --> 01:09:12.279
nabit two people uh hold on hold on hold

01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:17.080
on yeah well they they they didn't uh they didn't go full force right away so

01:09:14.679 --> 01:09:19.960
they leaked two people um so yeah so they blah blah blah they threatened oh

01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:24.799
so and there's a lot of other stuff stored in the accounts as well and the scariest thing about this is that it's

01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:29.679
validated by credit card number like your credit card numbers in there so you can't just be like uh someone else

01:09:27.400 --> 01:09:33.960
signed up with my account oh my God no it's like it's like a huge deal and like

01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:37.560
they they apparently have people like documentation of people's sexual

01:09:35.839 --> 01:09:44.319
fantasies and stuff like that like this is a huge deal so uh so there's a couple

01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:49.719
guys here in exclusive interview the Miss Saga man said he looked but never

01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:53.159
cheated he says sometimes you're just curious looking for friends then it

01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:57.960
doesn't necessarily appeal to you he said for friends uh he said he's been a

01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:02.199
husband for 20 years he works in the city has a young child he was clearly

01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:07.199
shocked and looked panicked while talking about the impact the release of

01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:13.480
his name has had on his life oh yeah so he denied that he wrote

01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:19.840
anything about liking to give and receive oral sex liking light kinky fun

01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:22.199
erotic tickling and role playing he said

01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:27.159
he joined the site in 2010 and stayed on for 2 to 3 years then used the website's

01:10:24.520 --> 01:10:32.880
paid delete option to have his profile removed for $19 he says I haven't been

01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:37.400
on the site in a long long time adding that he never expected something like a

01:10:35.280 --> 01:10:40.400
security breach to occur especially after you pay for a paid

01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:49.760
delete so there you go they a paid delete

01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:54.760
option that literally just didn't do anything pretty much um and then and

01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:58.120
then here's here's like here's a super here's a super super scary thing did you

01:10:56.480 --> 01:11:03.560
know that Ashley Madison is actually the second largest dating site behind

01:11:01.440 --> 01:11:07.080
match.com so there's just just a horrifying number for people who believe

01:11:05.440 --> 01:11:13.560
in the sanctity of marriage and all of that yikes yikes he um so this is this

01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:17.920
there there's some great quotes from um from John McAfee you know former

01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:23.600
security wear maker you might have heard his name once in a while he hasn't been

01:11:20.040 --> 01:11:25.480
a part of M for really long time so uh

01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:30.800
this is this is a great quote he says this hack threatens to destabilize

01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:36.400
Society oh yeah and I hacked it again myself it was easy peasy so since Ashley

01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:40.920
Madison said that they have you know they're addressing it he has apparently

01:11:38.040 --> 01:11:47.239
been back in but you know I don't know I don't know if that's necessarily true

01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:50.600
um so he said figures it was definitely

01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:52.560
the work of an individual acting alone

01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:55.400
because whether whether he's saying because of the the motive behind

01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:59.639
something like this or whether he's saying because of the ease because he

01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:06.600
said he was able to breach the site again

01:12:01.679 --> 01:12:11.199
himself uh he also said that

01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:12.679
uh oh it was one of the sorry excuse me

01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:17.080
so so the pronouncement follows his earlier judgment that uh May's Adult

01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:23.880
FriendFinder hack was one of the scariest hacks since the existence of

01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:24.920
computers um wow this is just these are

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because there's so much personal information ones and person information

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that like people really don't want people KN I think people aren't scared

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enough about money because a lot of times if like your credit card gets

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hacked or something you can get reimbursed this isn't a situation where

01:12:38.320 --> 01:12:43.199
you can be reimbursed if this is released you don't just change your

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credit card number everything intimate about you is

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now known

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publicly so yeah I I don't I don't know man

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like if they release the whole list

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like I mean it's one of those things am I evil for kind of wanting it to happen

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yeah I think so because hold on hold on a second it would be so much fun to

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watch the world burn for a little while I saw a lot well is it okay hold on cuz

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I saw a lot of fun I saw a lot of people

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say well they deserve it filthy cheaters not necessarily saying they deserve it

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they might and and and and you know what

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I just didn't say either way you could say karma is a [ __ ] you could say that

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but the reality of it is this

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impacts potentially an additional 37

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million people who might be living perfectly happy lives and is ignorance

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Bliss I don't know maybe and I disagree

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I would say hold on hold on hold on I I'll let you I'm sure you're going to

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I'm sure you're going to have a lot to say about this and you know I would also

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make the argument that no no illegal

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theft of someone else's personal information is

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justifiable yes so all that Karma as a

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[ __ ] stuff

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aside you shouldn't you cannot steal

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other people's information it's not right to wrong

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do not make her right in this case so

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releasing the information would necessarily be the right thing to do because there's also a lot of problems

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with like where it said that guy's information was released in 2010 I

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wouldn't be surprised if they're not going to be too caring about join dates

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on the databas that they release and people might just be looking for names

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so maybe you're in a new relationship and this is an old thing or maybe you're

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reformed maybe I know there's the credit card sign up thing but maybe your buddy

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pranked you but then if he pranked you then like why

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wasn't the prank revealed who pranks their buddy by

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creating you know a well it might have been but then maybe

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he didn't bother tell his wife cuz he's like oh that was just

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dumb there's there's there's ways that you could come across one of these

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Accounts at the same time kind of want to watch the world

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burn don't necessarily know if it's a good idea just kind of would want to

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watch the world burn a little bit um I don't know

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man like I'm I I am so very thankful

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that I have nothing to worry about here and I don't envy anyone who woke up

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Monday morning who has an Ashley Madison

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account that that is like can you can

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you imagine the the the amount of sick

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to your stomach cuz cuz the thing is is that

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unless you're one of the couple un lucky people that they're that they're leaking

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you know in and that they're trickling out there is still potential and I don't

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think it's going to happen for Ashley Madison to just seize operations and for

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the rest of the names to get buried down an internet hole somewhere um so to

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speak they could also wait for them to cease operations and like move everyone

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on and not have employees anymore and then just be like database dump let's do

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this let's play a game okay really fun

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have an Ashley Madison account you're married we're going to role play a

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little bit here wow um all right what are your other fantasies

01:16:32.639 --> 01:16:39.520
you some of them involves Smurfs oh

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wow we have some blue body paint let's do this anyways so so let's let's talk

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you hear about the Ashley Madison hack

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Monday morning y uh and I'm gonna I'm GNA I'm going to give you a full

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scenario okay you have been using

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ashleymadison.com actively L to cheat on your wife I'm going to

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give you two scenarios you've been using it actively

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currently okay so you you like cheated

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on her last week okay you've been using actually

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ter tell me how you react on Monday

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morning what's your damage

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control uh I don't know if I want to give people good ideas or not knowing

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what you know about hackers what's your damage control uh

01:17:27.040 --> 01:17:31.880
it's not even it's not even knowing what you know about hackers because this has

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nothing to do with that they have it they're done yeah but well but but a lot

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of a lot of lay people wouldn't necessarily know that that means it's

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basically game over that it will that it will end up somewhere and it will get

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leaked somewhere it's just happening all over again yes

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so they might not release it they might not there's still potential that it

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actually won't get if it is one person let's say it's a scorned lover right

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yeah it probably is I think that's what the maffy GU saying and it probably is

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he's targeting those specific websites yes yeah the ones that are all about

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being married already so what's your action plan uh I'm a terrible person I

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just want to to put that out there for some um you have to try to act like you

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did on every other day if you buy your wife flowers all of a sudden and start

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freaking out she's going to read this article she be oh I wonder why he's being so nice blah blah blah blah blah

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it's so wonderful flower showed up at work oh what's this news article I don't

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know why this is my married woman voice but whatever you're married to a pretty

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old woman yes apparently

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um but yeah so I don't know either either you go the route of just

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hidey-hole and just act like what do you do you don't get to H your bets here but

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I don't cheat what's your action plan though I don't know say you did but I

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have to assume I'm a completely different person if I if I assumed I was a completely different person so I was

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already going the road of cheating this whole time there's no real point in

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revealing yourself at that point cuz it's not going to be any better than

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just having it leaped later on right so

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I guess you just head your bets and keep going I go completely the opposite route

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you just reveal immediately yeah yeah I I I come clean because I'm not going

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yeah I don't know because if it comes from you even if there was external

01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:25.719
pressure I think you have a better chance to salvage the situation right

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but I gu guess this is where my mind changes a little bit cuz in my head if

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that's going to happen from either person you should probably just end it

01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:38.360
anyways what if it's not that simple what if I throw a kid into your

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:43.320
scenario sometimes life's not simple I don't want kids I know but I

01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:48.440
you don't I'm putting myself in a very weird situation I'm like would never do

01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:52.840
that not interested in doing that plus don't want

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kids so I have to like change two very fundamental things that's fine that's

01:19:54.320 --> 01:20:00.159
fine it's it's part of role playing you know you got to be you want to be a good

01:19:57.719 --> 01:20:06.320
partner here okay role playing partner huh if you have kids I guess the

01:20:03.639 --> 01:20:09.320
conversation should have to happen

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um but then you also have to worry about

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if that's going to completely fundamentally change your relationship with your partner and then creates a

01:20:17.080 --> 01:20:26.360
toxic environment for the kid it might actually be easier for you and the kid

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to split up I don't know as as a broken

01:20:26.360 --> 01:20:34.120
home Survivor um I can say that both of them

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have their own challenges

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um and the the the the toxic

01:20:39.480 --> 01:20:46.600
relationship between the parents can certainly continue just fine if they're

01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:49.679
not living in no I would fully expect it to continue but if you don't have to be

01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:54.880
in the house with them screaming and fighting every day yeah is that better

01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:58.080
because you you might grow up up and learn normaly you might think that this

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is how this is actually supposed to happen all that kind of stuff so we've

01:21:01.480 --> 01:21:09.600
got 47% of you uh going with the eat

01:21:05.080 --> 01:21:12.040
turnips action plan uh with 34% of you

01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:18.679
playing it cool and hoping it goes away and a mere 19% of you going my route and

01:21:15.719 --> 01:21:23.159
revealing it right away very interesting I mean this is this is all just sort of

01:21:21.400 --> 01:21:28.639
the interesting thing that I think here is the credit card valid cuz I would

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fully expect a ton of people to sign up

01:21:28.639 --> 01:21:38.239
on this website with a fake name yep like everyone and if you didn't you're

01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:41.520
dumb yep but that's the up the hacker if

01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:44.800
someone control FS for that credit card

01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:48.120
number wow

01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:49.800
yep yikes I hope you changed your credit

01:21:48.120 --> 01:21:55.199
card or you're I hope you're doing it now I don't know my life is easy I don't

01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:59.880
even have the option to cheat on my wife you wouldn't have time yeah straight up

01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:03.280
wouldn't have time there's the time there's the fact that she manages my

01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:08.560
schedule down to the minute yeah there's that um she manages

01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:13.120
all the finances and credit cards anyway so she'd see that payment coming out she

01:22:10.639 --> 01:22:18.120
be like wait what is this from and and then Google it and then figure it out

01:22:14.520 --> 01:22:19.920
it's not because of like of a suspicion

01:22:18.120 --> 01:22:24.800
on her part because she straight up knows where I am like she wouldn't even

01:22:22.480 --> 01:22:29.440
need a GPS tracker on my phone she knows exactly where I am any time of the day

01:22:27.440 --> 01:22:35.080
because my life is just really busy I usually know where you are

01:22:32.280 --> 01:22:40.159
yeah I'm a creature of habit it's like it's Friday night uh

01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:45.760
he's at badminton straight up it's any other

01:22:42.679 --> 01:22:48.000
time he's at work or at home that's it

01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:52.320
um but uh but but like and it's not because she monitors the finances

01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:57.920
because she suspects anything she's good at it because she monitors the finances

01:22:55.159 --> 01:23:02.120
because I am terrible at managing my finances and she's really good to be

01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:05.520
fair we have to we have to we can't just give you the terrible she's also very

01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:11.520
good at yeah and like she manages the finances not just of us personally but

01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:13.760
also lonus Media Group so if an unknown

01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:18.480
charge shows up she's emailing me about it not because she thinks it's for you

01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:25.199
know some adult dating site but because she just wants to know what it is so she

01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:28.159
can reconcile the books so

01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:31.239
so yeah oh my God that makes my life really easy would that be a fun Channel

01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:37.480
super fun prank oh yes L's left his wallet on his

01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:42.000
desk she doesn't watch W show we should

01:23:37.480 --> 01:23:42.000
do it oh my God I'm so

01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:54.920
down that would be hilarious that's so evil oh God we're

01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:56.800
kind of terrible people oh like in every

01:23:54.920 --> 01:24:00.880
possible way we'd have to capture the reaction though how do you do that I I

01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:05.639
think we could do it I think we've got enough clever camera people that we

01:24:03.280 --> 01:24:11.120
could count on them to uh yeah that could be pretty fun just as

01:24:09.520 --> 01:24:16.000
long as you're the one that scrubs the footage scrubs the footage yeah oh yeah

01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:20.719
like I go through through the reaction yeah well you know what no I I I I know

01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:26.320
her pretty well like I think that you know I think that it would be oh gee I

01:24:23.440 --> 01:24:26.320
don't know

01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:33.400
yeah let's give it a definite maybe okay

01:24:31.280 --> 01:24:39.400
I started to think about the downsides now all right yeah okay um wow we

01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:44.400
actually had a lot of like pretty good topics this week partially done I think

01:24:42.440 --> 01:24:48.239
we can do a lot of these yeah well it's 6 o'clock already and I've got some

01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:52.639
stuff to do after work today so um okay then Apple stops beta testers from

01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:56.719
reviewing apps that's a really good thing because if your beta testing a new

01:24:54.800 --> 01:25:01.400
version of iOS you shouldn't be like leaving reviews on apps about how they

01:24:58.560 --> 01:25:05.520
crash and are terrible yep um I'm super not against that

01:25:07.719 --> 01:25:12.480
um oh there's some interesting you know what some of the stuff we might just

01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:17.119
have to tackle next week cuz uh YouTube's apparently going to remove free videos If creators don't publish

01:25:15.440 --> 01:25:20.679
them to the subscription based platform too uh so there's some actually really

01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:25.199
good stuff in here but I think we're done for today thank you guys for tuning

01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:29.400
in to the WAN Show I AP olizee if things got a little bit heavier and less

01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:32.280
light-hearted than they normally do with the whole Ashley Madison hack thing if

01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:39.239
you're if you're married and you have an Ashley Madison account sorry bro or

01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:42.000
broette good luck Buddy Guy what's the

01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:42.000
female version of

01:25:42.360 --> 01:25:47.080
bro it's not sis I don't know yeah I

01:25:45.360 --> 01:25:54.639
don't know must be broette I just say bro but

01:25:51.239 --> 01:25:56.320
is that is that me being a jerk I like

01:25:54.639 --> 01:26:01.560
if I'm I don't care if I'm talking to a man or a woman I'll just be like yeah no

01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:05.159
problem man like I it's not and guys

01:26:01.560 --> 01:26:07.000
yeah yeah I mean who's ever actually us

01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:12.080
I actually sound I feel like I sound sleazy when I say like

01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.719
ladies ladies like right like I I feel

01:26:12.080 --> 01:26:17.880
like I'm like trying to project or come on to them so I just say guys and then

01:26:15.639 --> 01:26:22.480
it seems fine ladies and you can't say women because that has the whole like

01:26:20.440 --> 01:26:27.040
right there's negative connotations to all of them yeah cuz like woman

01:26:25.400 --> 01:26:31.280
someone tell me how to navigate life please yeah really it would make my my

01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:35.040
life easier I need a GPS in my car for navigating

01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:42.920
life hack your life all right see you guys again next

01:26:37.360 --> 01:26:42.920
week same bat Time same bat Channel

01:26:59.360 --> 01:27:01.800
and

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mention it's was like