live oh that's no that's fine because it'll share on Facebook from Twitter
yeah so they haven't managed to break that yet hi welcome to the WAN Show
where we're just we just carry on whatever internal We Wan away with our
conversation yeah as long as there's no uh you know it's all about positivity
though no whining whining
whining oh my goodness there's music I don't know what sound is coming out of
my lap oh right it's a thanks twitch all right so we've got a
bunch of great topics for you today actually we have a handful of really
great topics for you guys today cars
were hacked well one car was hacked but it was done wirelessly which is the big
concern Pro gamers are they using drugs
yes yes a license to Kill drones also
tashiba lied about an insane amount of money yeah like like this much money
yeah actually a lot more than that actually yes well no depends on which
movie oh yes intro time
I fix it y b up
glass best dance screen projectors out there thanks Batman yeah no problem
Christian pale has Batman andor's Phantom glass which it cuz it's like
Phantom right cuz he's like which is actually more of a Star Wars thing than
a Batman thing cuz the that's really
funny he has my wife in his phone with my last name she actually never changed
her last name uh so I'm just going to you know what what I won't do is jump
right into like our big topic for today which is that um hackers managed to gain
a fair amount of control over a vehicle
uh while it was being operated by by a person and I'm going to go ahead and
jump into one of the slightly smaller ones so this one is from naked
security.com I'm going to go that's my favorite website other than lips.com and
L media.com and youtube.com/ techtips
and ifixit.com and Phantom us what the heck not now um all right so
this one is uh the headline here is
right to destroy or right to kill drones
at least that's our headline for it uh so here it is naked security uh dreams
of Legally slapping drones out of the sky May Come true um which I guess Luke
is going to take over because now there's a handful of people waiting for
me outside the all right room I'll be right back this is easily the best
coordinate coordinated least problematic W show we've ever had we've I I I don't
think not having a phone call in the middle of it from uh one of the owners
of the company would have been any better and I don't think that uh having
lonus leave partway through Would Have Made It any better either I think this
is literally the perfect state that it could have been in I just wanted to
clarify that I'm getting another phone call this is fantastic the more phone
calls that I get the better off the show is actually going to be I just wanted to
point that out there anyways moving on to dreams of Legally slapping drones
over the there I guess lonus has it on screen can I scroll down at all yes I'm
going to put text there so that it's literally impossible to get anything
from it is there any other screenshots no we're going to go back up to the
Drone so I am not very up to date on this topic but
I do know that a few times in a few
different areas uh people haven't been able to put out fires due to drones
being in the way helicopters have had to be grounded because the drones are
getting too close to them and they're worried about the helicopter crashing
and it's just generally kind of a terrible idea now speaking of terrible
ideas one of the ways that they're planning to combat this is by uh they
would disable the drones using jamming technology which would end up blocking
Wi-Fi and GPS signals to drones making
them ultimately crash the problem with this is that it would also block calls
and messages to mobile devices meaning if they're going to do this in dangerous
zones they would be blocking people from using their cell phones which is
terrible that's actually a terrible terrible idea so to avoid having drones
being in the area they're blocking the usage of cell phones so if you're in the
dangerous area you won't be able to contact anyone that's outside of the
dangerous area just seems like a really stupid
idea they need a better way to take down the drones I I like those uh I liked that
drone that deploys a net over other drones yes the hunter drone yeah the
hunter drone that was absolutely I was kind of thinking like like mount something on the helicopter that has
like a net an anti- drone gun or
something you know what I kind of have to pee maybe I'll just come join the show and all right yeah uh another thing
that I was thinking of is like if you have a really skilled helicopter pilot
just try to get him to squat on top of the Drone all of a sudden so like come
over hover above it also the blades on the helicopter must throw drones like
crazy unless I guess you have a really really expensive one anyways I'm worried
about the legal response that they're trying to imply here um because I'm
scared of cell phone blocking not because I'm scared of the drones falling
I don't give a crap about the drones at all um destroy them all you want I just
I do worry a little bit bit about blocking emergency
communication because you want to take down a drone I think there's got to be
some better way to do that uh there's a quote from assembly man Gat in
California he says just because you have access to an expensive toy that can fly
in a dangerous area doesn't mean you should do
it cool uh I'm sure a lot of the people flying these drones probably didn't
realize the negative implications of flying it in the first place uh now they
probably know that doesn't mean they're going to stop doing it I'm sure a lot of these people are trying to sell footage
to the news so they'll do it for whatever reason they don't care if they
can get money uh so putting in some form of Law and having a right to destroy the
drones is great I just don't know if
blocking all of the GPS and Wi-Fi
communication is a good idea Nerf
cannons send out another helicopter with your rescue helicopter that's just like
dudes with like Nerf turrets and stuff yeah I don't think Nerf would really do
it though yeah no probably not some of the like if if we were talking like
drones then probably but if we're
talking like the um uh the 3dr solo that
we just that we just checked out that thing is pretty robust like I can
imagine having to hit it with like you know a 5B projectile at least to really
make an impact unless you manage to hit a propeller or something like it it's
pretty robust so yeah I don't I don't have the
solution it's just it's fairly clear that jamming signals is is not it but
with that said if the intention is to
jam signals you know kind of kind of uh EMP bomb style you know for 10 seconds
or 20 seconds need to take the Drone out of the sky then I don't think that's
what the plan is but I can't actually say cuz I I would I would assume that it
wouldn't be used as a weapon I would assume that it would be used as a passive thing right where you just have
jamming on well no because they're jamming GPS too and I'm sure a rescue
helicopter is going to want its own GPS working it's not like there's GPS pixie
dust that makes if you're jamming GPS then yeah I think it's mostly for
fighting fires so if you can't find
it time to just pack her up and go home
but you're right um you're totally right
I don't know all right so let's get into one of our other this is just I don't
know this is just kind of funny if you don't oh yeah and if it was an EMP the
helicopter would very possibly go down yeah no I don't mean EMP I just mean
like turn on the jammer for 10 seconds turn it off yeah cuz Jammers are just
exactly like you you can buy Jammers you shouldn't they're illegal yeah but
you'll get in trouble if you do so yeah well you'll get in trouble if you use it
I think in certain I think in can I looked into it uh in Canada I believe
they are illegal to import illegal to own illegal to operate but I believe
there are places where they're legal to import and own but not legal to operate
like almost nowhere are they legal to operate they basically shouldn't exist
but they're they're pretty easy to make yeah and there's ones that and they're
inexpensive there's ones that are kind of like you could shut down everything
within kind of a movie theater type radius sort of thing so if it's like or
like on a bus that you're traveling on so it's like I like I was looking at it
as more of like a prank thing like I was like I should get like a super low
powerered one so if I'm sitting next to my sister or something this this is when
I was younger right be like you know you
know like the classic uh you know Extra TV remote behind your parents like that
kind of thing but uh it's it's pretty serious business if you get caught using
them so I really wouldn't Rec someone in the chat was saying that uh they should
just combat whoa that looks Skitch um they should just combat the drones by
having Deployable um maybe extendable
fire PES on the helicopters they just whack them like a giant like fly water
yeah or like H hold on a second what if
they had a silly string Cannon like industrial no industrial
grade Silly String so rope Yeah well yeah well
that's boring when you say it like that less
fun but yes essentially rope thank you
so the net right so we're all the way back to
the net um so toshiba's CEO has resigned
over 1.2 billion dollar accounting
Scandal oh my um over years it wasn't
like all of a sudden in one deal they magically made a fake 1.2 billion can
that ad not be blocked are you kidding me all right there we go sorry about
that you guys um so eight board members
including Vice chairman have resigned their posts as part of a major
management reshuffle their current chairman was named interim president and
this is one of oh oh this is this is funny so uh yearend dividends and
postpone earnings have been cancelled so
there there will be no dividends unfortunately on the fake money yeah
toshiba's stock has dropped around 20% since early April when the accounting
issues first came to light here's what I'm kind of curious about why did anyone
actually believe that Toshiba was making money what what do they even
do they sell some laptops not that many of them I do know that and they bought a
company right but do they do they even
still make TVs I don't know I have one of theirs and I
like it there you go tashiba Canada 3D TV LED TV okay let's just okay let's
let's go to toshiba's website I'm just curious what do they actually do I mean
when's the last time you saw a tashiba tablet I remember back when the first
round of like decent Android tablets were rolling out back in the Tegra 2
days so you had like the um the Motorola
Zoom you had the ASUS transformer like
TF101 or whatever that thing was you had
the uh the Samsung one that we actually still have deployed to this day the
Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then tashiba had one
that was just like awful uh tashiba I
want to say
thrive tashiba thrive tablet 10.1 8 gig yeah that was
it it had that like massive bezel I was just going to say it's a huge bezel yeah
and it was like super thick and just like generally kind of it thrives off of
a little bit too much food yeah it was just kind of stupid compared to
everything else so let's like look at all this stuff so here you know what we
got to straw pull this we got to straw pull this have you bought anything from
tashiba in the last year nice yeah
no me neither so we have two nose
Good Start okay oh wow there's a
whoa yeah there is this is the new straw straw P's been updated we can make you
guys do a capture before answering if we
didn't want to get any responses to our straw PES Al how everyone is answering
in the twitch chat guys we don't look at it except when we do y no no no no no no
no no no no like yes that is how people do polls it's like if I wanted to
conduct a national survey I would just I would just like have an open phone line
that people just call in and say their answers and then I wouldn't write it down I would just sit there and I'd kind
of go oh yeah it really seems like 22% um so laptops desktops tablets
computer accessories like I got to I got to know I got to know what computer
accessories oh I think I'm on the support site so this might not even all
be current stuff all
right t.ca sorry okay
yeah we're sorry sorry tashiba
accessories blowout they make UPS's
apparently okay okay Office Products uh
oh large like like large
multifunctions Telecom stuff
bags monitors portable store storage okay so
like rebranding stuff a lot of this is going to be rebranding stuff okay they
make industrial stuff like point of sale this and that and barcode printers UPS's
surveillance systems medical MRI systems
oh wow okay okay so xray involved in
that kind of stuff uh digital signage so
very very industrial industrial oriented
but of course that relies on winning bids and uh whereas consumer can be more
can be more run rate business so having a look at how the results are looking
wow a mere 11% of you have bought
anything from tashiba in the last year
speaking of turnips by the way the vote for turnip shirt I think this is the
last day oh my gosh I haven't ordered one
yet okay I need to uh I need to get my
order going here 3 hours 3 hours left so
I'm going to have like an hour after w show an hour and a half after W show to
deal with this all right um vote for payro yeah what's our
next oh next topic okay doping in orts
this is before we move forward check here was it touch screen what's
this uh blah blah blah oh yeah yeah I just did that yep yep all good no what's
this oh I see um so where are we going
to what's going on what's going on
doping in Esports dop in Esports all right did you uh copy that into the
twitch chat I'm working on all right I'm going to bring up the I like closed the
I closed the W show Doc I have no idea what's going on today so I guess there's
two different sort of major questions here
um number one is you
know why are no I guess there's one
major question here um who didn't know
about this
yeah why are we pretending that this is
some kind of surprise oh my God we need to work with
like drug agencies and stuff to drug test people for things that literally
everyone's doing and we all knew was happening like the ESL guys I'm sure
they knew of course they did I knew I don't even follow Esports and like I've
been aware of this for literally years like little land tournaments that
I used to go to people would do it there yeah like there it's not like there
weren't guys with like Ridin at land
tournaments and I'm not saying that no one is legitimately on Ridin believe it
or not I've got a bit of a you know bombastic personality I think that's uh
not not too hard to uh pick up on there at one point or another I might have
been on Ridin with a prescription it did Mellow Me Out by the way but you know I
lost some of my energy which I think is sort of how it works um improved my
focus though that's for sure so I I I
guess I just what is the controversy
here the I guess the controversy like
they've known enough to have it in their
regulations that you're not allowed to use performance-enhancing drugs and
they've also known enough to not build
in any kinds of of penalties for using
them because if they penalized players
for using performance-enhancing drugs they know that they're just it's going
to be like yeah Major League Baseball all over
again because everyone's roiding so to speak even though they're not roiding
because you don't actually need like a huge ARM to operate a you know what is
it 63 grams for a final I I think Pasa biceps would uh would disagree well Bas
okay I did specifically I specifically brought up the final Mouse for that
reason you got a heavier Mouse you know you got a g502 you know you got a
wireless mouse with some AA batteries in there then a you probably shouldn't be
like professionally gaming on a wireless mouse but that's a whole other whole
other conversation um the point is is
that this is this is just kind of hilarious so this a former Cloud9 player
Corey sefus freezen who said in an interview quote I don't even care we
were all on Aderall
and this uh this is this is this is
great so the interviewer and interjects with everyone does Aderall on ES at esl1
right to which he replies in the affirmative and then what an awkward
moment that is because you know I got to
give I got to give freezen credit
here because this is totally not the way
this story plays out usually we're talking years years or Decades of denial
and lengthy legal processes to to to
prove that you know someone was someone was doping instead we're taking the
honest path here it's like and and this is this is Again part of the reason why
I am confused as to why anyone thinks that this was a secret because it's not
like in in an interview it would be unusual to handle the question this way
but in casual conversation it's not a secret so um I guess I just I
don't really know what else to say I mean what are what are they doing what what's the action plan here I don't I
think there there's some plans to bring in certain drug agencies like let's see
here we're taking the steps to level uh we're taking the steps to level with
that's a weird sentence to level with traditional Sports and it's going to
take a while before any Esports organization will administer regular drug tests we hope to speed this process
up proactively by seeking advice from authorities and starting small
full-blown drug tests at Esports events are far away but that doesn't mean we
can't and shouldn't try to tackle the
issue what is going on I'm just
popular I'm just basically a cool
guy yeah I know right got a badass over here um so I
mean here's a h so we're yeah we want to
blah BL basically they're going to work on it it's going to take a while it's been happening for literally forever and
everyone knew it was happening and they only care because it was brought to the spotlight and a whole bunch of people
were like wow I didn't know about this
and then that's about it you know self Park did that great episode about uh the
the whole Tiger Woods cheating thing um
where basically like every male on the planet is involved in this gigantic
conspiracy where they're pretending that
you know men with money and
power wouldn't they have to be like sex raised and like diseased in the head to
leverage that to you know mate with as
many partners as they can kind of thing like like the and I'm not I'm not saying
that everyone with money and power is you know running around sleeping with
tons of women or anything or any woman might you know I'm just I'm just saying
it's one of those basal basal instincts is sewing the seed and so anyway it's
this gigantic conspiracy that no one can understand why what could drive a man to
do that and they just kill anyone who
you know let lets the women on to that
like it's it's a fairly it's a it's a fairly natural thing to you know try to
create the the best Offspring by you know and lots of them and like all that
kind of stuff it's just kind of a human nature thing this feels very very
similar in the sense that it's like the
least well-kept secret on the face of the Earth and yet we're pretending that
oh my God this was happening wow no one takes steroids in
football ever why would you do that I
don't know you know what's funny the NHL
manages to keep their uh manages to keep their face pretty clean on most of that
stuff there is surprisingly little scandal in the NHL compared to a
football and basketball yeah I wonder why that is I actually have no
idea I legitimately don't know because you can May ice skates can't melt steel
beams um because you can you can look at
certain things about about a sport like
barrier to entry um you know regions where a really high barrier of entry for
for ice hockey but you could make this a very similar argument about something
like football I don't think even as much not
as much that's true but you know compared to something like basketball
where literally anyone can go shoot hoops at the local basketball court
because there are lots of them but even football
um like hockey if if you play like floor hockey in the street your barrier of
Entry is pretty low but it's also quite
different from ice hockey playing football in the street with your buddies
I would even argue is more similar to actual football right that's a that's a fairly
good argument because because at least your like fundamental movement properties don't change yeah yeah
whereas ice skating even the most similar thing we have to ice ska which I
guess would be rollerblading is really not that close I was a very good
rollerblader and a trash ice skater I could go really fast but I couldn't like
stop or Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore wait
yes yeah that is Happy Gilmore oh my gosh I screwed up I thought I had the
wrong movie reference for a second I was like that's like one of my all-time
favorite movies how can I screw this up don't go watch pixels pixels what is it
do not go watch pixels what's pixels it's an it's from Happy Gilmore
Productions what is Happy Gilmore Productions happy Gil more uh wait what
is it you mean Adam Sandler yeah but he has a production company does he really
it's terrible all these things actually
happen in Adam Sandler's pixels well
this is a kataku article we have
Productions as you've likely heard it's a bad movie almost pleasingly stupid Act
One a young brener and young Cooper pedal to a new arcade called the
electric dreams Factory we see cabinets Pac-Man brener enters himself into the
1982 worldwide arcade Championship where he loses a tiebreaking Donkey Kong title
bout to Eddie plant Dan Acro MC's the
tournament and announces that footage of the games will be included on a probe
that be is being sent into space well that's already completely
incoherent there's amazing video reviews of this where people just tear it apart
the president summons brener and Ledo to the Oval Office has been analyzing the
alien attacks and has invented light guns that can destroy
them okay sees a couple of light guns all
right well did you see it no no okay I've just seen many a review that tears
it apart and you brought up that dude so I thought I would just bring up to
people to not go watch that movie not go watch pixels okay okay got it so um you
know what I people are like spoiler alert and a whole bunch of people in the
chat were like you can't spoil an Adam Sandler movie
that's such a good answer Adam Sandler is silly Adam
Sandler dicks around for an hour and 20 minutes Adam Sandler
prevails basically yes yeah pretty much
all righty then uh you know what I actually kind of want to straw pull the
whole the whole Esports doping thing because you know what sometimes we get
caught up in that everyone knows this but actually it's not that common
knowledge uh Esports doping
I didn't know uh I suspected but wasn't sure and
then okay well yeah we suspected actually no cuz we saw it lands yeah I
literally but if you've never been to a land then I guess you would suspect I
have literally seen people who have literally told me that they literally
did not have a legitimate prescription legitimately taking in this case not
Aderall but it was Rin so um I've been
uh at one pack that I was at in a Counter-Strike tournament that I was in
there was people taking Aderall and rlin and stuff and me and my buddy weren't
taking out our all in riddlin but we had like you know those balls Guana energy
drinks right before our match I think we had like four and then there was these
caffeine energy mint things we both ate an entire pack and I was sitting there
like almost shaking that must have been really bad for it was because of reasons
that I didn't know about yet which is why I was shaking right um but that we
did really well we did like super well my performance
was way higher than it normally was here is a great question uh that I that I
think is that I think is actually a pretty important one because if Esports
is going to pretend that we're going to tackle you know performance enhancing
drugs uh do you think that you know
chugging down energy drinks should be considered a per performance-enhancing
drug like should you have a tolerable level of caffeine even
interesting I don't know apparently lots of people didn't know about it that is
that is super definitely a uh well this
could be people that don't follow Esports mhm that's another question um
but caffeine's a drug isn't Guana also a
drug yeah blah blah I can't I can't remember I think it has an active
ingredient or something something but but uh caffeine is should so should
excess caffeine be a performance
enhancing drug yes no that's a lot to
test for yeah can you easily test for how much caffeine is in someone I
actually don't know and it would be completely unprecedented because I think
in in in most um like professional
athlete type scenarios you could make
the argument that caffeine wouldn't necessarily be a a performance enhancer
strictly speaking whereas in in a land event depending on you know how late it
is uh you know how long you've up and all that kind of stuff it could have a
huge a huge impact I actually like I don't even know like something like um L
man are they are they allowed to chug energy
drinks that's super interesting or are they expected to do it
naturally um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah you know what let us let us
know the greatest endurance race has its own brand of energy drink it is a
special drink for drivers and helps them stay focused contains caffeine ginsing
extract and vitamin B but it doesn't actually say whether they're allowed to
consume them or not I assume if they have an official one that they can but
but I don't know very very interesting thing is
Esports events uh organizers limit the drugs blah blah blah it will be super
stupid if you were on a cool drug that made you con a cold drug that made you
deced for being sick it's a uh blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah You Can't Ban caffeine so there you go
there's also like tolerance levels for caffeine is a huge thing too isn't it
and I mean a lot of people are bringing up that lots of Esports teams are
sponsored by energy drinks oh yeah I mean energy drinks and gaming they go
together like you know peas and carrots my friends orange and black orange and
black no I think orange replaced black so if energy drinks oh Orange Is the
drinks became Gamers and played games
see I was doing it because of the LT Colors oh I not because of Netflix shows
Okay so we've got 50% of you saying no
but actually a surprising 30% of you saying yes excess caffeine should be
considered a performance enhancing or nancing drun is apparently what I wrote
I could probably use in caffeine um and uh you can ban things
from events that aren't aren't Controlled Substances someone in the chat was like You Can't Ban caffeine
from the event it's not a controlled substance you totally oh yeah for sure
you can absolutely a sport you could ban the wrong type of shoes you can ban
alcohol well I guess that's technically a controlled substance but the point is
you can ban whatever you want ban people from wearing a specific type of t-shirt
I'm not yeah I I went and played badminton at a local like like a country
club like it was actually you have to have the right type of shoes You didn't mark up the floor um no no oh the story
is better than that okay so no no any Badminton Center won't let you in the
front door with black so shoes even if they're non-marking yeah no way clear
souls or get out yeah um cuz like those
mats are I think 10 grand M each so you
run around putting marks on them get it out um so I had never been
to one of those types of places like you have you ever to a country club yeah
like like that style of establishment for golfing once okay so I
didn't get to go inside right exactly I specifically stayed outside so I was
allowed inside we were kind of snuck in so it's
kind of a long story but I know someone who who knows someone who um who got
grandfathered into a membership here even though the sister club that they
were a member of that got them grandfathered in is much less expensive
this one is apparently like tens of thousands of dollars to buy your initial
membership plus your annual fee like
like balling things I would never do so
anyway I um I I came to play badminton
on there're like completely empty and like the floors were amazing like
there's the there's there's there's like gym floors which kind of suck because
the grip isn't great and the the impact can be is very heavy it's kind of harder
on your knees then there's the rubber floors which have like kind of a padding
those are the green ones that you've seen and that's actually what they play
on professionally and then there's really good gym floors so really good
gym floors actually have spring to them
uh some people don't know this but you can design a gym floor so that it
actually has like a suspension system
basically to it and that's where you get the the cushion that you would normally
get with like foam but you get the uh
you get the but you also get the like the smoothness and the the impact of a
wooden floor and if it's well finished it's it's gorgeous was great to play on
anyway we didn't realize until or or our
guest or our host who who allowed Us in didn't realize until we showed up that
he had forgotten to tell us that it's white clothes only oh my God so I was
actually in one of the and the funny thing about professional badminton is
you go and you look up the greatest badminton player of all time arguably
definitely in the world right now and every picture of the guy he's wearing
red and gold for the team China um it's
it's not a thing in professional badminton this is just a snoody here's
our house rules thing so I guess I don't really remember where I was going with
this the point is that you can have whatever rules you want with respect to
attire and substances and anything and
that's basically it I've got people bringing up Serena
Williams it's not even the right sport yeah I mean she does hold a racket
and didn't she get wrecked by some dude who's like ranked 200 or something yeah
but like come on I and I think that was the you're saying best in the world This
Is An Open Bracket the guys count okay yes yes you could you could
say that uh fun fact about Badminton is it's the only Olympic sport where men
and women compete on the same field at the same time against each other that's
cool yeah interesting hey yeah uh okay so why
don't we move on um
what do we got here let's do a let's do a rapid fire topic this is interesting
so iOS 8 is at 85% adoption Google is uh
relatively uh quiet about uh lollipop
over there so let's go ahead and post oh I posted the wrong one in the twitch
chat trash poop yeah lollipop you know I'm really
worried about the Droid Turbo because I got lollipop 5.1
like a week and a half ago okay so the odds that I'm going to
get Eminem or marsipan or marshmallow or
whatever it is they're calling it the odds that I'm going to get that ever I
consider to be fairly low and I don't
know I think it's some app that I'm using that got an update recently or
something but droid turbo I'm like barely making
it through a day right now on lollipop I
only used it for like one day so maybe it was a really you know heavy flow day
so to speak so I'm I'm at 5.0.2 and this thing like the only
reason why I like this phone is one cuz it's waterproof which is cool and two
because it just lasts forever right like I I very rarely charge my phone two
three times a week cups and it just survives the whole time yeah so I'm I'm
having trouble but anyway that's uh there's there's there's a lot of other
issues with lollipop I absolutely hate that's not a droid turbo no this I'm not
using droid turbo right now it's S6 active I hate the way that lollipop
piles up your like notifications as just little icons instead of just letting you
scroll through them who thought it was a good idea to make one touch wait for an
animation and then scroll through your notification idea it's like you're using
a desk who thought that was a good idea idea because it feels like you're moving
papers on a desk cuz I get a lot of notifications people are always giving
me crap in my phone reviews about like you've got so many like things in your
things I'm like you know what I never clear them because there's literally no
point it will fill up in like 20 minutes oh I just got 500 Instagram
notifications okay y but then you still need notifications on because it'll tell
you when certain people do something so
Apple has managed to get 85% of their
active users on iOS 8 133% are running
iOS 7 and a mere 2% are running an earlier version of iOS I mean part of
this is you could probably make the argument that Apple does an okay job of
planned obs lence through degraded performance like my iPhone 4 runs way
worse than it used to uh there's other reasons why it might run way worse
definitely the operating system but there's also definitely other reasons
and things have gotten more demanding we expect more from our mobile devices and
the app developers are happy to deliver that to us and we're just going to have
to upgrade our Hardware to keep up because quite frankly even an Android
device from you know five years ago or like how how old of a device do you have
to have to be stuck on iOS 6 that would be like four to five years ago
an Android device from that kind of era is going to be horrible like absolutely
horrible for everything so um Google it
looks like their numbers Android 5 is accounting for a mere
11.6% of devices with 5.1 just
0.8% with the vast majority so that's uh
39.2 plus 37.4 still running um Kit Kat
and jelly bean it's almost an even SPL spit there so it's almost 80% on Kit Kat
and jelly bean yeah not quite but almost so lollipop is a flop for whatever
reason and hopefully the next version of Android t- rash yeah I I don't know I
had a lot of people rubbing their Nexus phones in my face when I was uh running
the droid turbo on KitKat and I was just
like
K # long hair don't care is that a #uh I
don't know all right let's uh speaking of things that everyone should care
about let's move into what is really our big topic of the day oh God hackers have
managed to remotely kill a Jeep on the
highway original article here is from wired.com let's go ahead and pull that
up it's not a very picture heavy uh article here so there's not a whole lot
for me to visually show you guys but
here's the Jeep uh after its breaks were
remotely disabled sending it into a
ditch so we'll give you guys the whole skinny on this I'll make my way through
the very detailed uh summary that I think Nick has been quite hard at work
on and would be upset if I didn't somewhat make my way through it so
basically it was a showcase piece uh done by wired featuring hackers Charlie
Miller and Chris valis um it's a result
of some car hacking research that they've done over the last year it's a
zero day exploit that's targeting Jeep Cherokees that give the hacker wireless
control of the vehicle and it's not full control for example the hacker cannot
take control over steering unless the
vehicle is going backwards yeah so if
you're going forward the hacker cannot take over your steering uh but there's a
lot of other stuff they can do so they're able to send commands to the
2014 Jeep's dashboard functions steering
brakes and transmission through its Entertainment System uh in this this
case they were 10 m away from the vehicle but the exploit is not limited
by distance so they were able to mess with air conditioning radio windshield
wipers and then they cut the transmission they can also kill the engine entirely at low speeds abruptly
engage the brakes or completely disable
the brakes it can also track GPS coordinates measure the speed of the
vehicle and drop pins behind it on a map tracking where it is going so this isn't
the first time that wired has done a piece with these hackers about car hacking but it is the first time that
the hack could be carried out wirelessly
which is obviously a much greater concern than if
someone gains physical access to your
car and you know injects Mal still
that's still freaky because your car is going to be parked in public parking lots a lot that's still a super big
problem and honestly will continue to still be a super big problem because
we'll be a lot a lot easier than
wirelessly hacking a car so we still have to Super pay attention to that but
wirelessly hacking a car especially being able to mass do it like what if
someone turned off all the brakes on every Jeep all at once that would be
bad that' be terrible they claimed that they like oh well we like we didn't
think it was that big of a deal no one's going to do this right we just make cars
we don't have to worry about it which is pathetic and I'm sure someone internally
told them at some point in time and they were just like whatev um
and there's always oh God dear um this
is hilarious oh yeah that's coming uh but yeah so there's there's there's
problems with this because car companies are notorious after everyone watched
Fight Club for um having their their
their calculation where they try to decide whether or not it's worth
recalling something that's not really going to work anymore because with
something like that you can see it progressively happen over time like okay we had a few accidents here we had a few
accidents there all right we'll pull them all back so we don't have more with
this it's going to be like oh there's an exploit oh every Jeep is compromised
yeah and to be to be clear this is not
just one vehicle so it's uh This was
done through UK connect which is uh hold on let me just see I I want to I want to
get like the wording for all this right because it's kind of a serious topic uh
so that's the entertainment nav phone management and Wi-Fi hotspot aspect of
Chrysler and their sub brand vehicles
and it is estimated that there are as many as
471 th000 vehicles on the road with vulner vulnerable UK connect systems in
the US now now it's only been fully tested on a Jeep Cherokee but the
hackers believe that they could access any car with a UK connect head unit now
the big concern to me about this is not
that a car got hacked but it's that the
auto makers live in such a different
world than the high than the high technology companies that we generally
talk about whether it's your Googles or your apples or your microsofts where
they'll see something like this and with
exceptions treat it like a big deal and
and act on it quickly car companies are used to operating on a much longer
development cycle you know we're talking it could be a half a dozen years from
the first you know drawing on a napkin to a car with rubber tires on it that
drives on the road which probably looks like all the other ones which probably
looks like all the other ones so so we're we're talking like best case
scenario the vehicle that you're driving
today has incorporated ideas that are as
old as you know five six or even more
years ago is why um
like investigating Car Technology is sometimes really boring yeah because
it's like oh they have a 7in tablet
that's 480p yay okay and a super grainy camera
and you have to use a dial thing to do anything because it's not a touchcreen
yeah so but but that's just that's just something that we have to understand
though is that these guys work on a very very different cycle whereas security
guys you know if you go if you go talk to someone at you know um EET for
example or you go talk to someone at McAfee they're going to be like uh yeah
you need to be on that stuff like right away or it's a or it's a huge problem
and so Chrysler's statement really underlines that difference in Attitude
to me in a terrifying terrifying way the
way that the fact that they thought it was okay to address this this way so
they stated that they appreciate Miller and valek's work but under no
circumstances does FCA condone or believe it's appropriate to disclose
howto information that would potentially encourage or help enable hackers to gain
unauthorized and unlawful access to Vehicle Systems so they don't even
understand the concept of white hat at
all they think it's okay to release that
statement that they don't even understand why it's important for the
code to be out there and for people to understand the exploit for it to be
closed and they're like oh we didn't think they were going to release the code so we were just like ah I'm just
like okay they want someone found it someone else can and we'll find it if
they they just want to they just want to you know hide in their shell of that
people won't do it so we can just ignore
this and if we just don't talk about it then it will go away it is not going
away cars are getting more and more intelligent and more connected and as
cars get more and more computerized control over more and more of their
features we're talking self-driving cars and as little as what musk figures five
six years yeah I mean this becomes this becomes an
episode of Doctor Who extremely
quickly um I've never watched Doctor Who but I'm going to nod my head knowingly
yeah it's a great it's a great episode The the bad guys take over everyone's
cars and drive them into lakes and stuff oh that's not good basically this
happens um so let me just see if there's anything else that we can that we can
really that we can really add some chat said then they tagged me just wait till
Tesla gets hacked it has to happen eventually very probably anything that
can connect to something can be hacked like we said that's not the issue here
no the issue here is is their response their response is completely wrong and
just I love Tesla they're also not invulnerable yeah no one's perfect no
but instead of acknowledging that no one's perfect and you got to get your
act together and create an internal task force and publicly talk about the
internal task force that you're creating to address this and keep your an eye on
it for the future um I don't remember
how I started that sentence so it's hard for me to finish it coherently but the
point is that's the way to deal with it yeah not to just go well hey you know
you guys we don't condone you guys releasing this because now everyone's
going to know about it uh yeah including you so fix it that's how you do
this um uh
so yeah the the hackers had the the usual sort of response as like yeah hey
this would be pretty good for a hacker um and you know we that they think it's
they they believe that releasing the portion of the code is important since it allows their peers to prove their
work um and holds automakers accountable for their digital security I mean
remember guys there white hat is not
about finding an exploit and then releasing it to a bunch of you know Bad
Dudes before notifying the company who
the code belongs to I promise you they contacted that company first exactly
Tesla has a $10,000 Bounty for any hacks apparently just got told by our buddy
techbench TV um so they're actively
trying to get people to submit stuff like this so that they can fix it I
didn't even know that that's fantastic good job Tesla that's how you should
respond to these things you should try to welcome these guys with open arms and
be like yeah yes thank you for finding this here is some money here's some
money here's a big bag of money maybe try to work with us on fixing it maybe
not I don't know whatever thank you here's money goodbye there could be more
bags of money involved or potentially a job even that's honestly a way that a
lot of people get hired so this is really scary um US senator Mary uh one
of the leads on the new security legislation for the national highway
traffic safety administration and Federal Trade Commission uh sent a
letter to 20 automakers so again this this underlines sort of my point about
the automakers and how they approach technology asking them a series of
questions about security practices the answers to it showed quote unquote quote
excuse me a clear lack of appropriate security measures to protect drivers
against hackers who may be able to take control of a vehicle unquote only seven
of 16 respondents said they hired independent security firms to test their
vehicles digital security and only two said their vehicles had monitoring
systems that checked their car internal Network networks for malicious digital
commands so the takeaway here is not that Chrysler and Jeep um are dumb and
their cars are bad and super hackable that's not the point the point is this
is a huge attitude shift that needs to happen in the automotive industry and
right now is scary to the point where
like I'm not I'm not much of a fearmonger I tend to mostly live my life
without without the tin foil hat
but this could affect automated things are scary and this is why Elon and
um can't remember his name right now dude in the wheelchair super crazy smart
does research his time Sten Haw there we go Stephen Hawking Elon Musk and Stephen
Hawking have both been pushing really hard to research the potential downsides
and research stopping those potential downsides of AI and Automation in
general and that's a very smart thing that should be doing and we're
not it's like I don't know some people
I've said this a few times people gaw at me a little bit but it's it's kind of like we're making the nuke again right
with Automation and Ai and we're kind of
not really worrying about the downsides too much
again and yeah I hope we don't go that rout all right so I just dropped a straw
poll on you guys does this news affect
the way you'll shop for a tech heavy cars
because I'm going to be honest guys like it was actually it was actually Ed edel
who told me about this initially we were filming something out in the garage and
he's shopping for a car right now and so immediately like the first thing I asked
him is does this affect the way oh there's a Tesla outside not a Tesla oh
wait what what are you talking about isn't that a TLX I wouldn't know a TLX
from a hole in the wall I'm not a car guy I thought that was why you were I thought it was a Tesla no it's just that
car has never been here before and it's been here for the last little bit oh
okay can I help you I think that's his
who's Ed's oh did he buy one I don't know he
lied to me anyway it's been here consistently during work hours for the
last little bit oh okay well the point is I thought it might have been someone
else's I don't know yeah not a car guy at all can't believe I didn't even know
that they don't look that similar do I think it is whatever I don't care okay
the point is that Ed's Ed was shopping for a car at least and might still be so
what I said was okay well does this news affect you buying a car that is more
technology heavy and I also pitched in that you know I have a lightly used 2003
Honda Civic that's manual everything including everyone in the chat is like
it's a spy it's Logan it's Logan in
including a manual transmission and I've
got to say for the first time ever I felt like my mom
where she kind of has this she has kind of this innate distrust of social media
and posting information on the internet the stuff that my generation doesn't
really think about the same way that hers does about technology and I kind of
went yeah I feel pretty good that
there's no camera in my car and there's no and and like the brake pedals
connected to the brake pedal thing the
brake pedal thing connected to the disc thing the disc thing is connected to the
wheel thing and the car just stops like that no outside
interference I felt pretty good about that for the first time ever and one
thing that's a little sketched too uh is something that I don't think any of the
articles are talking about right now which is the proof of things happening
if someone cuts your brake line in real life your brake line's
cut okay pretty straightforward if someone cuts your brakes digitally and
then exits and there's no way to tell that they did that then all of a sudden
you're liable for mowing down oh look
there was a registered no press on the
break and there was a registered full press on the pedal and you ran over 100
people uh you're screwed yeah you're criminally liable in that case potenti
like registering a key press so this is
like some scary stuff we've actually got 57% of you and this is a techsavvy
audience I think 57% of you saying yes
this affects the way you'll shop for a tech heavy
car with 22% of you saying turnip and
only 20% of you saying No this won't affect the way you shop incredible hey
it would affect the way that I would shop I would I wouldn't go with ones
that were answering this way not saying necessarily I would go with the Tesla
because they're drastically way too expensive but I would not go with any company that was answering in that
matter um in related news Fiat issues a
software patch after hackers take over
that car so there you go um speaking of it not
being there's actually no there's no evidence that the particular model that
they were patching is is affected in any way but uh there you go I mean here's
another here's another thing where like again the car maker mentality is just is
decades behind um you know you see so
many things whether it's your phone or your computer or or you know your game
console or even your t you know TVs traditionally move a lot
slower than computers but even they're caught up uh over the a firmware updates
over the air patching you know cars don't even have that so if all of a
sudden you have to install you know security updates for your car every
month Tesla's do uh Tesla's do but no
one's even no one's even thought of this
they were they were so far behind in their thought process that they built
all this networking functionality in and literally didn't build in a way for
users to just patch it by pressing a button so
yeah um wow and then this is also
related so Fiat is a sub brand of Chrysler Chrysler to recall 1.4 million
Vehicles after the remote hijack bug was found it's a voluntary recall which is
related to the firmware thing that I was saying because the voluntary recall is
just a a flash such a
weird thing to call it it's like it's voluntary for one so a
voluntary recall is just a little weird and then they're not even really
recalling the car you're just supposed to come in and get it patched which
means they recalled it you're just like you're going to give it back to you hey
you can come get a patch I don't know yeah so the they they figure yeah it's a
software update it's not a voluntary recall so uh affected cars include Dodge
Vipers RAM trucks Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees Dodge Durango Chrysler
200 300 uh Dodge Chargers Dodge Challengers and uh Chrysler owners can
enter their Vin at a provided website to check if their vehicle is included in
the recall yeah so someone in the chat uh
nail puppy voluntary recall equals we are doing this because we were forced to
yeah so I don't our legal department was like hey you should probably do this so
we
did that oh this is this is great so
more more stupidity uh the company is
unaware of any injuries related to software exploitation nor is it aware of
any related complaints warranty claims or accidents independent of the mediate
demonstration someone in twitch chat just reminded us we have to do sponsor
Chrysler spokesperson oh thank you for that uh not clear uh oh oh oh oh this is
great issues will be discussed uh more deeply at next month
stepcon it's like because you have a month to deal with these kinds of
things you super don't by the way uh
Chrysler's statement the software manipulation addressed by this recall
required unique and extensive technical knowledge prolonged physical access to a
subject vehicle and extended periods of time to write
code as if that's a barrier at all it's
like it's like they think that techsavvy coders
aren't everywhere I that's really stupid
H and so another it was kind of hard great so we didn't think we had to do
anything about it great quote from The Verge um it's not clear If the message
was about the importance of this was fully received as Chrysler insists it's
only taking the step out of an abundance of
caution I I couldn't even abundance of
caution now I'm just getting mad I'm actually like like I'm getting upset
this is why but this is what I'm talking about this is why I wouldn't purchase from one of those companies if like like
this is why I would definitely take this into consideration with purchasing a car
I wouldn't necessarily avoid purchasing a high-tech car I would just purchase a
high-tech car from someone who's probably going to give a crap about the
car once I buy it from them it's like why why is the why is
the ah like why did the American
automotive industry just collapse because they've got their heads
completely up their own butts Still
Still this is the reaction to a
potential to an opportunity for them to
turn this into awesome PR like hey we've
allocated this many millions of dollars
to this bounty program and this and like
a quick reaction not we'll discuss it in a month because this patch is an
overabundance of caution
okay well I just got some good news we're getting like a sick like uh
conference cam from Logitech for our for our boardroom at the new office it's
like an $800 webcam nice essentially
with like a bunch of connected features and like ball and microphone hopefully
it's good because you know I've been to a fair amount of conference rooms and
used a fair amount of those conference cams not a lot of them are trash
Logitech is so proud of this particular one that they've basically discontinued
the entire rest of their webcam lineup and they're just focusing on this one
that's cool yeah all right we'll try that so um oh right right sponsor spots
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don't think we have I fix it yeah the kit anymore I don't have one the kit we
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what can we say about iFixit other than that they have great tutorials on their
website it's ifixit.com and the site is pretty self-explanatory it's so that you
guys can ship your stuff to me and I'll fix it it's so that if you're talking in
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so we want to move on to yet another massive topic for this week
insane so uh this one original article
here actually I I forget which article I read On It originally but um here's one
from the register this one is just kind of based on a quote from John McAfee the
Ashley Madison hack May destabilize
Society so if you guys didn't hear about this earlier in the week there were uh
37 million some odd people plus that had a pretty
stressful morning on Monday this week I wonder if
anyone was like paying really close attention to their spouse to see if they
were like hyper stressed out I I don't
know man um you know if I if I suspect
it already or something like that I
would be I would be following this whole thing pretty darn closely so for those
of you you who are not familiar with Ashley Madison it's a site that is all
about well okay I'll start I guess I'll open with their tagline life's short
have an affair so the site is a dating
site for married people um and not for
married people with each other for married people with other more different
married people um to be fair there's
some people on the site that are in poly or open relationships but I think that's
not the majority of it so just wanted to make sure that people don't freak out in
twitch chat and go like well some relationships are okay with it yeah we
realized that I just think the majority of them are not so basically the hackers
submitted a um submitted a a demand list
that was pretty much look you need to shut down this site shut down uh I
forget what their other sites are called they're they're not as famous they're not as common but shut down your other
sites or we are going to release they had not only the user database of the
current active users but Ashley Madison
had a service for I think1 18 or $19 that supposedly wiped all of your
information from everywhere they still had it so the hack
oh my retrieved that information as well so so the the Hacker's demand is
actually looking like it could cost less for the Toronto based company than the
lawsuits that could result in I mean can you even imagine imagine the liability
that you're on the hook for if you arguably caused a divorce which could
arguably in the case of you know if people are millionaires or
multi-millionaires cost Millions upon millions of dollars um I can't find the
dollar count um other websites that they owned
were uh Cougar Life and established men
there's other websites as well but I don't yeah oh those were the ones that they demanded that they shut down so uh
the this is this is good I mean there's articles all over the place so to be clear I don't I haven't been following
it all week unfortunately I really wish I had and I really wish that I sort of
had had checked on it before uh before this again so the 37 million users are
are worldwide I think they operate in something like 40 countries apparently it's um if you combine all three of
those websites the ones that I just named it's 50 million people not 37 37
is just Ashley Madison so U but the other ones aren't quite as uh quite as
targeted towards uh well I guess established men
in a lot of cases probably would be although I don't think it's specifically
targeted at having an affair in the same case anyway the hackers didn't
immediately release all the information but what they're saying is that they
will they're going to keep pushing it out as the site stays online so of
course there's all kinds of so so people are getting outed already so this is an
outed Ashley Madison user talking to uh talking to the Toronto son so he may be
the unluckiest cheater of all time so
just two were outed on an infidelity Vlog uh blog after a hacker group
calling itself oops hold on a second dang
nabit two people uh hold on hold on hold
on yeah well they they they didn't uh they didn't go full force right away so
they leaked two people um so yeah so they blah blah blah they threatened oh
so and there's a lot of other stuff stored in the accounts as well and the scariest thing about this is that it's
validated by credit card number like your credit card numbers in there so you can't just be like uh someone else
signed up with my account oh my God no it's like it's like a huge deal and like
they they apparently have people like documentation of people's sexual
fantasies and stuff like that like this is a huge deal so uh so there's a couple
guys here in exclusive interview the Miss Saga man said he looked but never
cheated he says sometimes you're just curious looking for friends then it
doesn't necessarily appeal to you he said for friends uh he said he's been a
husband for 20 years he works in the city has a young child he was clearly
shocked and looked panicked while talking about the impact the release of
his name has had on his life oh yeah so he denied that he wrote
anything about liking to give and receive oral sex liking light kinky fun
erotic tickling and role playing he said
he joined the site in 2010 and stayed on for 2 to 3 years then used the website's
paid delete option to have his profile removed for $19 he says I haven't been
on the site in a long long time adding that he never expected something like a
security breach to occur especially after you pay for a paid
delete so there you go they a paid delete
option that literally just didn't do anything pretty much um and then and
then here's here's like here's a super here's a super super scary thing did you
know that Ashley Madison is actually the second largest dating site behind
match.com so there's just just a horrifying number for people who believe
in the sanctity of marriage and all of that yikes yikes he um so this is this
there there's some great quotes from um from John McAfee you know former
security wear maker you might have heard his name once in a while he hasn't been
a part of M for really long time so uh
this is this is a great quote he says this hack threatens to destabilize
Society oh yeah and I hacked it again myself it was easy peasy so since Ashley
Madison said that they have you know they're addressing it he has apparently
been back in but you know I don't know I don't know if that's necessarily true
um so he said figures it was definitely
the work of an individual acting alone
because whether whether he's saying because of the the motive behind
something like this or whether he's saying because of the ease because he
said he was able to breach the site again
himself uh he also said that
uh oh it was one of the sorry excuse me
so so the pronouncement follows his earlier judgment that uh May's Adult
FriendFinder hack was one of the scariest hacks since the existence of
computers um wow this is just these are
because there's so much personal information ones and person information
that like people really don't want people KN I think people aren't scared
enough about money because a lot of times if like your credit card gets
hacked or something you can get reimbursed this isn't a situation where
you can be reimbursed if this is released you don't just change your
credit card number everything intimate about you is
now known
publicly so yeah I I don't I don't know man
like if they release the whole list
like I mean it's one of those things am I evil for kind of wanting it to happen
yeah I think so because hold on hold on a second it would be so much fun to
watch the world burn for a little while I saw a lot well is it okay hold on cuz
I saw a lot of fun I saw a lot of people
say well they deserve it filthy cheaters not necessarily saying they deserve it
they might and and and and you know what
I just didn't say either way you could say karma is a [ __ ] you could say that
but the reality of it is this
impacts potentially an additional 37
million people who might be living perfectly happy lives and is ignorance
Bliss I don't know maybe and I disagree
I would say hold on hold on hold on I I'll let you I'm sure you're going to
I'm sure you're going to have a lot to say about this and you know I would also
make the argument that no no illegal
theft of someone else's personal information is
justifiable yes so all that Karma as a
[ __ ] stuff
aside you shouldn't you cannot steal
other people's information it's not right to wrong
do not make her right in this case so
releasing the information would necessarily be the right thing to do because there's also a lot of problems
with like where it said that guy's information was released in 2010 I
wouldn't be surprised if they're not going to be too caring about join dates
on the databas that they release and people might just be looking for names
so maybe you're in a new relationship and this is an old thing or maybe you're
reformed maybe I know there's the credit card sign up thing but maybe your buddy
pranked you but then if he pranked you then like why
wasn't the prank revealed who pranks their buddy by
creating you know a well it might have been but then maybe
he didn't bother tell his wife cuz he's like oh that was just
dumb there's there's there's ways that you could come across one of these
Accounts at the same time kind of want to watch the world
burn don't necessarily know if it's a good idea just kind of would want to
watch the world burn a little bit um I don't know
man like I'm I I am so very thankful
that I have nothing to worry about here and I don't envy anyone who woke up
Monday morning who has an Ashley Madison
account that that is like can you can
you imagine the the the amount of sick
to your stomach cuz cuz the thing is is that
unless you're one of the couple un lucky people that they're that they're leaking
you know in and that they're trickling out there is still potential and I don't
think it's going to happen for Ashley Madison to just seize operations and for
the rest of the names to get buried down an internet hole somewhere um so to
speak they could also wait for them to cease operations and like move everyone
on and not have employees anymore and then just be like database dump let's do
this let's play a game okay really fun
have an Ashley Madison account you're married we're going to role play a
little bit here wow um all right what are your other fantasies
you some of them involves Smurfs oh
wow we have some blue body paint let's do this anyways so so let's let's talk
you hear about the Ashley Madison hack
Monday morning y uh and I'm gonna I'm GNA I'm going to give you a full
scenario okay you have been using
ashleymadison.com actively L to cheat on your wife I'm going to
give you two scenarios you've been using it actively
currently okay so you you like cheated
on her last week okay you've been using actually
ter tell me how you react on Monday
morning what's your damage
control uh I don't know if I want to give people good ideas or not knowing
what you know about hackers what's your damage control uh
it's not even it's not even knowing what you know about hackers because this has
nothing to do with that they have it they're done yeah but well but but a lot
of a lot of lay people wouldn't necessarily know that that means it's
basically game over that it will that it will end up somewhere and it will get
leaked somewhere it's just happening all over again yes
so they might not release it they might not there's still potential that it
actually won't get if it is one person let's say it's a scorned lover right
yeah it probably is I think that's what the maffy GU saying and it probably is
he's targeting those specific websites yes yeah the ones that are all about
being married already so what's your action plan uh I'm a terrible person I
just want to to put that out there for some um you have to try to act like you
did on every other day if you buy your wife flowers all of a sudden and start
freaking out she's going to read this article she be oh I wonder why he's being so nice blah blah blah blah blah
it's so wonderful flower showed up at work oh what's this news article I don't
know why this is my married woman voice but whatever you're married to a pretty
old woman yes apparently
um but yeah so I don't know either either you go the route of just
hidey-hole and just act like what do you do you don't get to H your bets here but
I don't cheat what's your action plan though I don't know say you did but I
have to assume I'm a completely different person if I if I assumed I was a completely different person so I was
already going the road of cheating this whole time there's no real point in
revealing yourself at that point cuz it's not going to be any better than
just having it leaped later on right so
I guess you just head your bets and keep going I go completely the opposite route
you just reveal immediately yeah yeah I I I come clean because I'm not going
yeah I don't know because if it comes from you even if there was external
pressure I think you have a better chance to salvage the situation right
but I gu guess this is where my mind changes a little bit cuz in my head if
that's going to happen from either person you should probably just end it
anyways what if it's not that simple what if I throw a kid into your
scenario sometimes life's not simple I don't want kids I know but I
you don't I'm putting myself in a very weird situation I'm like would never do
that not interested in doing that plus don't want
kids so I have to like change two very fundamental things that's fine that's
fine it's it's part of role playing you know you got to be you want to be a good
partner here okay role playing partner huh if you have kids I guess the
conversation should have to happen
um but then you also have to worry about
if that's going to completely fundamentally change your relationship with your partner and then creates a
toxic environment for the kid it might actually be easier for you and the kid
to split up I don't know as as a broken
home Survivor um I can say that both of them
have their own challenges
um and the the the the toxic
relationship between the parents can certainly continue just fine if they're
not living in no I would fully expect it to continue but if you don't have to be
in the house with them screaming and fighting every day yeah is that better
because you you might grow up up and learn normaly you might think that this
is how this is actually supposed to happen all that kind of stuff so we've
got 47% of you uh going with the eat
turnips action plan uh with 34% of you
playing it cool and hoping it goes away and a mere 19% of you going my route and
revealing it right away very interesting I mean this is this is all just sort of
the interesting thing that I think here is the credit card valid cuz I would
fully expect a ton of people to sign up
on this website with a fake name yep like everyone and if you didn't you're
dumb yep but that's the up the hacker if
someone control FS for that credit card
number wow
yep yikes I hope you changed your credit
card or you're I hope you're doing it now I don't know my life is easy I don't
even have the option to cheat on my wife you wouldn't have time yeah straight up
wouldn't have time there's the time there's the fact that she manages my
schedule down to the minute yeah there's that um she manages
all the finances and credit cards anyway so she'd see that payment coming out she
be like wait what is this from and and then Google it and then figure it out
it's not because of like of a suspicion
on her part because she straight up knows where I am like she wouldn't even
need a GPS tracker on my phone she knows exactly where I am any time of the day
because my life is just really busy I usually know where you are
yeah I'm a creature of habit it's like it's Friday night uh
he's at badminton straight up it's any other
time he's at work or at home that's it
um but uh but but like and it's not because she monitors the finances
because she suspects anything she's good at it because she monitors the finances
because I am terrible at managing my finances and she's really good to be
fair we have to we have to we can't just give you the terrible she's also very
good at yeah and like she manages the finances not just of us personally but
also lonus Media Group so if an unknown
charge shows up she's emailing me about it not because she thinks it's for you
know some adult dating site but because she just wants to know what it is so she
can reconcile the books so
so yeah oh my God that makes my life really easy would that be a fun Channel
super fun prank oh yes L's left his wallet on his
desk she doesn't watch W show we should
do it oh my God I'm so
down that would be hilarious that's so evil oh God we're
kind of terrible people oh like in every
possible way we'd have to capture the reaction though how do you do that I I
think we could do it I think we've got enough clever camera people that we
could count on them to uh yeah that could be pretty fun just as
long as you're the one that scrubs the footage scrubs the footage yeah oh yeah
like I go through through the reaction yeah well you know what no I I I I know
her pretty well like I think that you know I think that it would be oh gee I
don't know
yeah let's give it a definite maybe okay
I started to think about the downsides now all right yeah okay um wow we
actually had a lot of like pretty good topics this week partially done I think
we can do a lot of these yeah well it's 6 o'clock already and I've got some
stuff to do after work today so um okay then Apple stops beta testers from
reviewing apps that's a really good thing because if your beta testing a new
version of iOS you shouldn't be like leaving reviews on apps about how they
crash and are terrible yep um I'm super not against that
um oh there's some interesting you know what some of the stuff we might just
have to tackle next week cuz uh YouTube's apparently going to remove free videos If creators don't publish
them to the subscription based platform too uh so there's some actually really
good stuff in here but I think we're done for today thank you guys for tuning
in to the WAN Show I AP olizee if things got a little bit heavier and less
light-hearted than they normally do with the whole Ashley Madison hack thing if
you're if you're married and you have an Ashley Madison account sorry bro or
broette good luck Buddy Guy what's the
female version of
bro it's not sis I don't know yeah I
don't know must be broette I just say bro but
is that is that me being a jerk I like
if I'm I don't care if I'm talking to a man or a woman I'll just be like yeah no
problem man like I it's not and guys
yeah yeah I mean who's ever actually us
I actually sound I feel like I sound sleazy when I say like
ladies ladies like right like I I feel
like I'm like trying to project or come on to them so I just say guys and then
it seems fine ladies and you can't say women because that has the whole like
right there's negative connotations to all of them yeah cuz like woman
someone tell me how to navigate life please yeah really it would make my my
life easier I need a GPS in my car for navigating
life hack your life all right see you guys again next
week same bat Time same bat Channel
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