1 00:00:00,199 --> 00:00:06,919 live oh that's no that's fine because it'll share on Facebook from Twitter 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:12,320 yeah so they haven't managed to break that yet hi welcome to the WAN Show 3 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:17,880 where we're just we just carry on whatever internal We Wan away with our 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:24,080 conversation yeah as long as there's no uh you know it's all about positivity 5 00:00:20,119 --> 00:00:24,080 though no whining whining 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,080 whining oh my goodness there's music I don't know what sound is coming out of 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,600 my lap oh right it's a thanks twitch all right so we've got a 8 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:39,840 bunch of great topics for you today actually we have a handful of really 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,840 great topics for you guys today cars 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:48,120 were hacked well one car was hacked but it was done wirelessly which is the big 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:50,399 concern Pro gamers are they using drugs 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:57,039 yes yes a license to Kill drones also 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:02,600 tashiba lied about an insane amount of money yeah like like this much money 14 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:11,200 yeah actually a lot more than that actually yes well no depends on which 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:30,639 movie oh yes intro time 16 00:01:32,399 --> 00:01:39,399 I fix it y b up 17 00:01:36,759 --> 00:01:46,560 glass best dance screen projectors out there thanks Batman yeah no problem 18 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:52,719 Christian pale has Batman andor's Phantom glass which it cuz it's like 19 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Phantom right cuz he's like which is actually more of a Star Wars thing than 20 00:01:54,719 --> 00:02:01,360 a Batman thing cuz the that's really 21 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:05,960 funny he has my wife in his phone with my last name she actually never changed 22 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:10,720 her last name uh so I'm just going to you know what what I won't do is jump 23 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:19,160 right into like our big topic for today which is that um hackers managed to gain 24 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:22,080 a fair amount of control over a vehicle 25 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:25,599 uh while it was being operated by by a person and I'm going to go ahead and 26 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:30,560 jump into one of the slightly smaller ones so this one is from naked 27 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:36,760 security.com I'm going to go that's my favorite website other than lips.com and 28 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,800 L media.com and youtube.com/ techtips 29 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:47,040 and ifixit.com and Phantom us what the heck not now um all right so 30 00:02:43,879 --> 00:02:50,800 this one is uh the headline here is 31 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,080 right to destroy or right to kill drones 32 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:58,400 at least that's our headline for it uh so here it is naked security uh dreams 33 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:04,840 of Legally slapping drones out of the sky May Come true um which I guess Luke 34 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:08,879 is going to take over because now there's a handful of people waiting for 35 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:14,280 me outside the all right room I'll be right back this is easily the best 36 00:03:11,519 --> 00:03:19,519 coordinate coordinated least problematic W show we've ever had we've I I I don't 37 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:24,480 think not having a phone call in the middle of it from uh one of the owners 38 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:29,400 of the company would have been any better and I don't think that uh having 39 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:33,360 lonus leave partway through Would Have Made It any better either I think this 40 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,239 is literally the perfect state that it could have been in I just wanted to 41 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,439 clarify that I'm getting another phone call this is fantastic the more phone 42 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:44,360 calls that I get the better off the show is actually going to be I just wanted to 43 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,959 point that out there anyways moving on to dreams of Legally slapping drones 44 00:03:46,239 --> 00:03:53,319 over the there I guess lonus has it on screen can I scroll down at all yes I'm 45 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,959 going to put text there so that it's literally impossible to get anything 46 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,480 from it is there any other screenshots no we're going to go back up to the 47 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:06,560 Drone so I am not very up to date on this topic but 48 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:09,079 I do know that a few times in a few 49 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:13,560 different areas uh people haven't been able to put out fires due to drones 50 00:04:11,799 --> 00:04:16,160 being in the way helicopters have had to be grounded because the drones are 51 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:21,040 getting too close to them and they're worried about the helicopter crashing 52 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:25,360 and it's just generally kind of a terrible idea now speaking of terrible 53 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,880 ideas one of the ways that they're planning to combat this is by uh they 54 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:35,280 would disable the drones using jamming technology which would end up blocking 55 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Wi-Fi and GPS signals to drones making 56 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:43,000 them ultimately crash the problem with this is that it would also block calls 57 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:47,039 and messages to mobile devices meaning if they're going to do this in dangerous 58 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:52,000 zones they would be blocking people from using their cell phones which is 59 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:56,720 terrible that's actually a terrible terrible idea so to avoid having drones 60 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,000 being in the area they're blocking the usage of cell phones so if you're in the 61 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,800 dangerous area you won't be able to contact anyone that's outside of the 62 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:08,360 dangerous area just seems like a really stupid 63 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:14,039 idea they need a better way to take down the drones I I like those uh I liked that 64 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:17,639 drone that deploys a net over other drones yes the hunter drone yeah the 65 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:24,680 hunter drone that was absolutely I was kind of thinking like like mount something on the helicopter that has 66 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:25,639 like a net an anti- drone gun or 67 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:30,800 something you know what I kind of have to pee maybe I'll just come join the show and all right yeah uh another thing 68 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:34,000 that I was thinking of is like if you have a really skilled helicopter pilot 69 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:38,000 just try to get him to squat on top of the Drone all of a sudden so like come 70 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:41,400 over hover above it also the blades on the helicopter must throw drones like 71 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,759 crazy unless I guess you have a really really expensive one anyways I'm worried 72 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:52,720 about the legal response that they're trying to imply here um because I'm 73 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:56,120 scared of cell phone blocking not because I'm scared of the drones falling 74 00:05:54,440 --> 00:06:00,479 I don't give a crap about the drones at all um destroy them all you want I just 75 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:04,759 I do worry a little bit bit about blocking emergency 76 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:08,199 communication because you want to take down a drone I think there's got to be 77 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:12,199 some better way to do that uh there's a quote from assembly man Gat in 78 00:06:10,599 --> 00:06:16,160 California he says just because you have access to an expensive toy that can fly 79 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,960 in a dangerous area doesn't mean you should do 80 00:06:18,039 --> 00:06:24,319 it cool uh I'm sure a lot of the people flying these drones probably didn't 81 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:28,280 realize the negative implications of flying it in the first place uh now they 82 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:33,240 probably know that doesn't mean they're going to stop doing it I'm sure a lot of these people are trying to sell footage 83 00:06:31,039 --> 00:06:36,720 to the news so they'll do it for whatever reason they don't care if they 84 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,720 can get money uh so putting in some form of Law and having a right to destroy the 85 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:45,240 drones is great I just don't know if 86 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:47,540 blocking all of the GPS and Wi-Fi 87 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,440 communication is a good idea Nerf 88 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,879 cannons send out another helicopter with your rescue helicopter that's just like 89 00:06:53,800 --> 00:07:00,280 dudes with like Nerf turrets and stuff yeah I don't think Nerf would really do 90 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:06,599 it though yeah no probably not some of the like if if we were talking like 91 00:07:03,319 --> 00:07:10,680 drones then probably but if we're 92 00:07:06,599 --> 00:07:13,240 talking like the um uh the 3dr solo that 93 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:18,440 we just that we just checked out that thing is pretty robust like I can 94 00:07:15,639 --> 00:07:23,599 imagine having to hit it with like you know a 5B projectile at least to really 95 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:27,479 make an impact unless you manage to hit a propeller or something like it it's 96 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:31,759 pretty robust so yeah I don't I don't have the 97 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:38,000 solution it's just it's fairly clear that jamming signals is is not it but 98 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,720 with that said if the intention is to 99 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:47,280 jam signals you know kind of kind of uh EMP bomb style you know for 10 seconds 100 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:51,319 or 20 seconds need to take the Drone out of the sky then I don't think that's 101 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:55,800 what the plan is but I can't actually say cuz I I would I would assume that it 102 00:07:54,199 --> 00:08:02,720 wouldn't be used as a weapon I would assume that it would be used as a passive thing right where you just have 103 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:07,960 jamming on well no because they're jamming GPS too and I'm sure a rescue 104 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:13,400 helicopter is going to want its own GPS working it's not like there's GPS pixie 105 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:18,400 dust that makes if you're jamming GPS then yeah I think it's mostly for 106 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,400 fighting fires so if you can't find 107 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:27,800 it time to just pack her up and go home 108 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:30,280 but you're right um you're totally right 109 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:34,240 I don't know all right so let's get into one of our other this is just I don't 110 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:38,399 know this is just kind of funny if you don't oh yeah and if it was an EMP the 111 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:43,120 helicopter would very possibly go down yeah no I don't mean EMP I just mean 112 00:08:40,959 --> 00:08:48,519 like turn on the jammer for 10 seconds turn it off yeah cuz Jammers are just 113 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:52,399 exactly like you you can buy Jammers you shouldn't they're illegal yeah but 114 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,640 you'll get in trouble if you do so yeah well you'll get in trouble if you use it 115 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:02,040 I think in certain I think in can I looked into it uh in Canada I believe 116 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:06,880 they are illegal to import illegal to own illegal to operate but I believe 117 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:11,480 there are places where they're legal to import and own but not legal to operate 118 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:16,480 like almost nowhere are they legal to operate they basically shouldn't exist 119 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:20,120 but they're they're pretty easy to make yeah and there's ones that and they're 120 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:24,320 inexpensive there's ones that are kind of like you could shut down everything 121 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:29,880 within kind of a movie theater type radius sort of thing so if it's like or 122 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,480 like on a bus that you're traveling on so it's like I like I was looking at it 123 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:38,959 as more of like a prank thing like I was like I should get like a super low 124 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:44,000 powerered one so if I'm sitting next to my sister or something this this is when 125 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:46,720 I was younger right be like you know you 126 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:51,240 know like the classic uh you know Extra TV remote behind your parents like that 127 00:09:48,839 --> 00:09:55,440 kind of thing but uh it's it's pretty serious business if you get caught using 128 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:59,880 them so I really wouldn't Rec someone in the chat was saying that uh they should 129 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:06,040 just combat whoa that looks Skitch um they should just combat the drones by 130 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:08,440 having Deployable um maybe extendable 131 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:16,360 fire PES on the helicopters they just whack them like a giant like fly water 132 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:19,079 yeah or like H hold on a second what if 133 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:25,279 they had a silly string Cannon like industrial no industrial 134 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:31,560 grade Silly String so rope Yeah well yeah well 135 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:38,040 that's boring when you say it like that less 136 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:40,000 fun but yes essentially rope thank you 137 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:45,440 so the net right so we're all the way back to 138 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:55,720 the net um so toshiba's CEO has resigned 139 00:10:50,880 --> 00:11:00,360 over 1.2 billion dollar accounting 140 00:10:55,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Scandal oh my um over years it wasn't 141 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:06,200 like all of a sudden in one deal they magically made a fake 1.2 billion can 142 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:11,720 that ad not be blocked are you kidding me all right there we go sorry about 143 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,720 that you guys um so eight board members 144 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:18,720 including Vice chairman have resigned their posts as part of a major 145 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:24,519 management reshuffle their current chairman was named interim president and 146 00:11:21,959 --> 00:11:30,920 this is one of oh oh this is this is funny so uh yearend dividends and 147 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,880 postpone earnings have been cancelled so 148 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:37,600 there there will be no dividends unfortunately on the fake money yeah 149 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:40,959 toshiba's stock has dropped around 20% since early April when the accounting 150 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:46,200 issues first came to light here's what I'm kind of curious about why did anyone 151 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:51,120 actually believe that Toshiba was making money what what do they even 152 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:57,720 do they sell some laptops not that many of them I do know that and they bought a 153 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:00,120 company right but do they do they even 154 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:04,600 still make TVs I don't know I have one of theirs and I 155 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:09,320 like it there you go tashiba Canada 3D TV LED TV okay let's just okay let's 156 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:14,880 let's go to toshiba's website I'm just curious what do they actually do I mean 157 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:19,880 when's the last time you saw a tashiba tablet I remember back when the first 158 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:25,959 round of like decent Android tablets were rolling out back in the Tegra 2 159 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:29,480 days so you had like the um the Motorola 160 00:12:25,959 --> 00:12:32,600 Zoom you had the ASUS transformer like 161 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,639 TF101 or whatever that thing was you had 162 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:39,920 the uh the Samsung one that we actually still have deployed to this day the 163 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:43,800 Galaxy Tab 10.1 and then tashiba had one 164 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:46,600 that was just like awful uh tashiba I 165 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,600 want to say 166 00:12:46,839 --> 00:12:56,720 thrive tashiba thrive tablet 10.1 8 gig yeah that was 167 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:01,639 it it had that like massive bezel I was just going to say it's a huge bezel yeah 168 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:07,040 and it was like super thick and just like generally kind of it thrives off of 169 00:13:05,199 --> 00:13:10,360 a little bit too much food yeah it was just kind of stupid compared to 170 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:14,920 everything else so let's like look at all this stuff so here you know what we 171 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:23,279 got to straw pull this we got to straw pull this have you bought anything from 172 00:13:17,399 --> 00:13:25,839 tashiba in the last year nice yeah 173 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:30,399 no me neither so we have two nose 174 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Good Start okay oh wow there's a 175 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:46,360 whoa yeah there is this is the new straw straw P's been updated we can make you 176 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,639 guys do a capture before answering if we 177 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:54,000 didn't want to get any responses to our straw PES Al how everyone is answering 178 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:59,839 in the twitch chat guys we don't look at it except when we do y no no no no no no 179 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:04,639 no no no no like yes that is how people do polls it's like if I wanted to 180 00:14:02,079 --> 00:14:07,880 conduct a national survey I would just I would just like have an open phone line 181 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:14,040 that people just call in and say their answers and then I wouldn't write it down I would just sit there and I'd kind 182 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:21,360 of go oh yeah it really seems like 22% um so laptops desktops tablets 183 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:24,720 computer accessories like I got to I got to know I got to know what computer 184 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:29,600 accessories oh I think I'm on the support site so this might not even all 185 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,160 be current stuff all 186 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:40,160 right t.ca sorry okay 187 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:43,920 yeah we're sorry sorry tashiba 188 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:47,240 accessories blowout they make UPS's 189 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:51,040 apparently okay okay Office Products uh 190 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:53,920 oh large like like large 191 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:57,320 multifunctions Telecom stuff 192 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:02,639 bags monitors portable store storage okay so 193 00:14:59,959 --> 00:15:06,839 like rebranding stuff a lot of this is going to be rebranding stuff okay they 194 00:15:04,199 --> 00:15:14,279 make industrial stuff like point of sale this and that and barcode printers UPS's 195 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:17,399 surveillance systems medical MRI systems 196 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:20,560 oh wow okay okay so xray involved in 197 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:24,720 that kind of stuff uh digital signage so 198 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:27,360 very very industrial industrial oriented 199 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:33,120 but of course that relies on winning bids and uh whereas consumer can be more 200 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:38,519 can be more run rate business so having a look at how the results are looking 201 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:41,720 wow a mere 11% of you have bought 202 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:43,720 anything from tashiba in the last year 203 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:48,360 speaking of turnips by the way the vote for turnip shirt I think this is the 204 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:52,759 last day oh my gosh I haven't ordered one 205 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:56,440 yet okay I need to uh I need to get my 206 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:59,040 order going here 3 hours 3 hours left so 207 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:02,720 I'm going to have like an hour after w show an hour and a half after W show to 208 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:10,000 deal with this all right um vote for payro yeah what's our 209 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:12,040 next oh next topic okay doping in orts 210 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:17,160 this is before we move forward check here was it touch screen what's 211 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:23,839 this uh blah blah blah oh yeah yeah I just did that yep yep all good no what's 212 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:27,360 this oh I see um so where are we going 213 00:16:23,839 --> 00:16:30,199 to what's going on what's going on 214 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:33,120 doping in Esports dop in Esports all right did you uh copy that into the 215 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:38,040 twitch chat I'm working on all right I'm going to bring up the I like closed the 216 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:44,560 I closed the W show Doc I have no idea what's going on today so I guess there's 217 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:54,000 two different sort of major questions here 218 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:57,959 um number one is you 219 00:16:54,000 --> 00:17:01,480 know why are no I guess there's one 220 00:16:57,959 --> 00:17:04,720 major question here um who didn't know 221 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:08,559 about this 222 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:10,280 yeah why are we pretending that this is 223 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:15,280 some kind of surprise oh my God we need to work with 224 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:18,400 like drug agencies and stuff to drug test people for things that literally 225 00:17:16,919 --> 00:17:24,079 everyone's doing and we all knew was happening like the ESL guys I'm sure 226 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:29,480 they knew of course they did I knew I don't even follow Esports and like I've 227 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:33,840 been aware of this for literally years like little land tournaments that 228 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:39,080 I used to go to people would do it there yeah like there it's not like there 229 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:40,440 weren't guys with like Ridin at land 230 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:45,039 tournaments and I'm not saying that no one is legitimately on Ridin believe it 231 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:49,840 or not I've got a bit of a you know bombastic personality I think that's uh 232 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:53,960 not not too hard to uh pick up on there at one point or another I might have 233 00:17:51,559 --> 00:17:58,840 been on Ridin with a prescription it did Mellow Me Out by the way but you know I 234 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:03,799 lost some of my energy which I think is sort of how it works um improved my 235 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:07,120 focus though that's for sure so I I I 236 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:10,159 guess I just what is the controversy 237 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:13,240 here the I guess the controversy like 238 00:18:10,159 --> 00:18:15,679 they've known enough to have it in their 239 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:21,240 regulations that you're not allowed to use performance-enhancing drugs and 240 00:18:17,919 --> 00:18:26,400 they've also known enough to not build 241 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:30,120 in any kinds of of penalties for using 242 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,000 them because if they penalized players 243 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:34,919 for using performance-enhancing drugs they know that they're just it's going 244 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:41,280 to be like yeah Major League Baseball all over 245 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:46,039 again because everyone's roiding so to speak even though they're not roiding 246 00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:50,919 because you don't actually need like a huge ARM to operate a you know what is 247 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:58,240 it 63 grams for a final I I think Pasa biceps would uh would disagree well Bas 248 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,679 okay I did specifically I specifically brought up the final Mouse for that 249 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:07,200 reason you got a heavier Mouse you know you got a g502 you know you got a 250 00:19:04,919 --> 00:19:12,000 wireless mouse with some AA batteries in there then a you probably shouldn't be 251 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:17,600 like professionally gaming on a wireless mouse but that's a whole other whole 252 00:19:13,679 --> 00:19:19,280 other conversation um the point is is 253 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:23,960 that this is this is just kind of hilarious so this a former Cloud9 player 254 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:30,120 Corey sefus freezen who said in an interview quote I don't even care we 255 00:19:26,679 --> 00:19:33,760 were all on Aderall 256 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:36,159 and this uh this is this is this is 257 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:41,360 great so the interviewer and interjects with everyone does Aderall on ES at esl1 258 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:47,799 right to which he replies in the affirmative and then what an awkward 259 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:51,200 moment that is because you know I got to 260 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:55,200 give I got to give freezen credit 261 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:57,960 here because this is totally not the way 262 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:04,720 this story plays out usually we're talking years years or Decades of denial 263 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:07,520 and lengthy legal processes to to to 264 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:13,080 prove that you know someone was someone was doping instead we're taking the 265 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:18,600 honest path here it's like and and this is this is Again part of the reason why 266 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:23,640 I am confused as to why anyone thinks that this was a secret because it's not 267 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:29,080 like in in an interview it would be unusual to handle the question this way 268 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:35,760 but in casual conversation it's not a secret so um I guess I just I 269 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:40,720 don't really know what else to say I mean what are what are they doing what what's the action plan here I don't I 270 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:45,280 think there there's some plans to bring in certain drug agencies like let's see 271 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:48,440 here we're taking the steps to level uh we're taking the steps to level with 272 00:20:46,919 --> 00:20:51,600 that's a weird sentence to level with traditional Sports and it's going to 273 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:56,960 take a while before any Esports organization will administer regular drug tests we hope to speed this process 274 00:20:55,039 --> 00:21:01,240 up proactively by seeking advice from authorities and starting small 275 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:06,720 full-blown drug tests at Esports events are far away but that doesn't mean we 276 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:10,840 can't and shouldn't try to tackle the 277 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:14,200 issue what is going on I'm just 278 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:16,720 popular I'm just basically a cool 279 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:24,760 guy yeah I know right got a badass over here um so I 280 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:25,799 mean here's a h so we're yeah we want to 281 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,039 blah BL basically they're going to work on it it's going to take a while it's been happening for literally forever and 282 00:21:28,679 --> 00:21:35,440 everyone knew it was happening and they only care because it was brought to the spotlight and a whole bunch of people 283 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,039 were like wow I didn't know about this 284 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:44,080 and then that's about it you know self Park did that great episode about uh the 285 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,600 the whole Tiger Woods cheating thing um 286 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:52,159 where basically like every male on the planet is involved in this gigantic 287 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:55,679 conspiracy where they're pretending that 288 00:21:52,159 --> 00:21:58,600 you know men with money and 289 00:21:55,679 --> 00:22:05,000 power wouldn't they have to be like sex raised and like diseased in the head to 290 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:07,080 leverage that to you know mate with as 291 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:11,440 many partners as they can kind of thing like like the and I'm not I'm not saying 292 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:16,600 that everyone with money and power is you know running around sleeping with 293 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:20,960 tons of women or anything or any woman might you know I'm just I'm just saying 294 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:26,080 it's one of those basal basal instincts is sewing the seed and so anyway it's 295 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:32,159 this gigantic conspiracy that no one can understand why what could drive a man to 296 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:35,240 do that and they just kill anyone who 297 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:37,600 you know let lets the women on to that 298 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:44,039 like it's it's a fairly it's a it's a fairly natural thing to you know try to 299 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:47,320 create the the best Offspring by you know and lots of them and like all that 300 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:53,320 kind of stuff it's just kind of a human nature thing this feels very very 301 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:55,279 similar in the sense that it's like the 302 00:22:53,320 --> 00:23:00,279 least well-kept secret on the face of the Earth and yet we're pretending that 303 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:06,679 oh my God this was happening wow no one takes steroids in 304 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:09,840 football ever why would you do that I 305 00:23:06,679 --> 00:23:12,720 don't know you know what's funny the NHL 306 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:16,840 manages to keep their uh manages to keep their face pretty clean on most of that 307 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,720 stuff there is surprisingly little scandal in the NHL compared to a 308 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:25,880 football and basketball yeah I wonder why that is I actually have no 309 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:30,440 idea I legitimately don't know because you can May ice skates can't melt steel 310 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:36,480 beams um because you can you can look at 311 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:39,440 certain things about about a sport like 312 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:44,640 barrier to entry um you know regions where a really high barrier of entry for 313 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:47,440 for ice hockey but you could make this a very similar argument about something 314 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:52,200 like football I don't think even as much not 315 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,520 as much that's true but you know compared to something like basketball 316 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:59,240 where literally anyone can go shoot hoops at the local basketball court 317 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:05,159 because there are lots of them but even football 318 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:10,320 um like hockey if if you play like floor hockey in the street your barrier of 319 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:12,400 Entry is pretty low but it's also quite 320 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:16,520 different from ice hockey playing football in the street with your buddies 321 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:20,919 I would even argue is more similar to actual football right that's a that's a fairly 322 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:26,799 good argument because because at least your like fundamental movement properties don't change yeah yeah 323 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:31,320 whereas ice skating even the most similar thing we have to ice ska which I 324 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:35,720 guess would be rollerblading is really not that close I was a very good 325 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:41,120 rollerblader and a trash ice skater I could go really fast but I couldn't like 326 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,880 stop or Happy Gilmore Happy Gilmore wait 327 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:45,679 yes yeah that is Happy Gilmore oh my gosh I screwed up I thought I had the 328 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,960 wrong movie reference for a second I was like that's like one of my all-time 329 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:53,480 favorite movies how can I screw this up don't go watch pixels pixels what is it 330 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,080 do not go watch pixels what's pixels it's an it's from Happy Gilmore 331 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Productions what is Happy Gilmore Productions happy Gil more uh wait what 332 00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:06,200 is it you mean Adam Sandler yeah but he has a production company does he really 333 00:25:04,679 --> 00:25:12,200 it's terrible all these things actually 334 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:16,000 happen in Adam Sandler's pixels well 335 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:18,000 this is a kataku article we have 336 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:24,159 Productions as you've likely heard it's a bad movie almost pleasingly stupid Act 337 00:25:21,399 --> 00:25:28,559 One a young brener and young Cooper pedal to a new arcade called the 338 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:32,679 electric dreams Factory we see cabinets Pac-Man brener enters himself into the 339 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:38,799 1982 worldwide arcade Championship where he loses a tiebreaking Donkey Kong title 340 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,440 bout to Eddie plant Dan Acro MC's the 341 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:45,360 tournament and announces that footage of the games will be included on a probe 342 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:48,760 that be is being sent into space well that's already completely 343 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:55,480 incoherent there's amazing video reviews of this where people just tear it apart 344 00:25:53,559 --> 00:26:00,120 the president summons brener and Ledo to the Oval Office has been analyzing the 345 00:25:58,399 --> 00:26:04,120 alien attacks and has invented light guns that can destroy 346 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:09,320 them okay sees a couple of light guns all 347 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:14,320 right well did you see it no no okay I've just seen many a review that tears 348 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:18,159 it apart and you brought up that dude so I thought I would just bring up to 349 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:23,559 people to not go watch that movie not go watch pixels okay okay got it so um you 350 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,360 know what I people are like spoiler alert and a whole bunch of people in the 351 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:29,799 chat were like you can't spoil an Adam Sandler movie 352 00:26:30,399 --> 00:26:38,039 that's such a good answer Adam Sandler is silly Adam 353 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:43,600 Sandler dicks around for an hour and 20 minutes Adam Sandler 354 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,799 prevails basically yes yeah pretty much 355 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,840 all righty then uh you know what I actually kind of want to straw pull the 356 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:54,240 whole the whole Esports doping thing because you know what sometimes we get 357 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:59,480 caught up in that everyone knows this but actually it's not that common 358 00:26:55,799 --> 00:27:01,640 knowledge uh Esports doping 359 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:09,240 I didn't know uh I suspected but wasn't sure and 360 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:13,760 then okay well yeah we suspected actually no cuz we saw it lands yeah I 361 00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:18,000 literally but if you've never been to a land then I guess you would suspect I 362 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:22,760 have literally seen people who have literally told me that they literally 363 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:30,000 did not have a legitimate prescription legitimately taking in this case not 364 00:27:25,399 --> 00:27:31,919 Aderall but it was Rin so um I've been 365 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,679 uh at one pack that I was at in a Counter-Strike tournament that I was in 366 00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:40,360 there was people taking Aderall and rlin and stuff and me and my buddy weren't 367 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:43,600 taking out our all in riddlin but we had like you know those balls Guana energy 368 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,960 drinks right before our match I think we had like four and then there was these 369 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:50,480 caffeine energy mint things we both ate an entire pack and I was sitting there 370 00:27:48,919 --> 00:27:54,640 like almost shaking that must have been really bad for it was because of reasons 371 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:59,720 that I didn't know about yet which is why I was shaking right um but that we 372 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,880 did really well we did like super well my performance 373 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:07,760 was way higher than it normally was here is a great question uh that I that I 374 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:12,039 think is that I think is actually a pretty important one because if Esports 375 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,000 is going to pretend that we're going to tackle you know performance enhancing 376 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,960 drugs uh do you think that you know 377 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,960 chugging down energy drinks should be considered a per performance-enhancing 378 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:27,399 drug like should you have a tolerable level of caffeine even 379 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:31,720 interesting I don't know apparently lots of people didn't know about it that is 380 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,880 that is super definitely a uh well this 381 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:41,600 could be people that don't follow Esports mhm that's another question um 382 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:44,200 but caffeine's a drug isn't Guana also a 383 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,320 drug yeah blah blah I can't I can't remember I think it has an active 384 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:55,679 ingredient or something something but but uh caffeine is should so should 385 00:28:50,720 --> 00:29:00,080 excess caffeine be a performance 386 00:28:55,679 --> 00:29:03,039 enhancing drug yes no that's a lot to 387 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,799 test for yeah can you easily test for how much caffeine is in someone I 388 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:13,880 actually don't know and it would be completely unprecedented because I think 389 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:17,080 in in in most um like professional 390 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,480 athlete type scenarios you could make 391 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:24,760 the argument that caffeine wouldn't necessarily be a a performance enhancer 392 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:28,559 strictly speaking whereas in in a land event depending on you know how late it 393 00:29:26,679 --> 00:29:33,480 is uh you know how long you've up and all that kind of stuff it could have a 394 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:38,919 huge a huge impact I actually like I don't even know like something like um L 395 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:43,760 man are they are they allowed to chug energy 396 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:48,640 drinks that's super interesting or are they expected to do it 397 00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:55,399 naturally um blah blah blah blah blah blah blah you know what let us let us 398 00:29:52,480 --> 00:30:00,840 know the greatest endurance race has its own brand of energy drink it is a 399 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:06,080 special drink for drivers and helps them stay focused contains caffeine ginsing 400 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,840 extract and vitamin B but it doesn't actually say whether they're allowed to 401 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,559 consume them or not I assume if they have an official one that they can but 402 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:19,600 but I don't know very very interesting thing is 403 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:23,200 Esports events uh organizers limit the drugs blah blah blah it will be super 404 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,799 stupid if you were on a cool drug that made you con a cold drug that made you 405 00:30:25,399 --> 00:30:30,960 deced for being sick it's a uh blah blah blah 406 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:36,919 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah You Can't Ban caffeine so there you go 407 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,760 there's also like tolerance levels for caffeine is a huge thing too isn't it 408 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,519 and I mean a lot of people are bringing up that lots of Esports teams are 409 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:49,399 sponsored by energy drinks oh yeah I mean energy drinks and gaming they go 410 00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:55,360 together like you know peas and carrots my friends orange and black orange and 411 00:30:52,919 --> 00:31:01,559 black no I think orange replaced black so if energy drinks oh Orange Is the 412 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:03,559 drinks became Gamers and played games 413 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:10,080 see I was doing it because of the LT Colors oh I not because of Netflix shows 414 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,919 Okay so we've got 50% of you saying no 415 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:18,279 but actually a surprising 30% of you saying yes excess caffeine should be 416 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:23,440 considered a performance enhancing or nancing drun is apparently what I wrote 417 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:28,080 I could probably use in caffeine um and uh you can ban things 418 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:32,519 from events that aren't aren't Controlled Substances someone in the chat was like You Can't Ban caffeine 419 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,279 from the event it's not a controlled substance you totally oh yeah for sure 420 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,159 you can absolutely a sport you could ban the wrong type of shoes you can ban 421 00:31:38,679 --> 00:31:43,960 alcohol well I guess that's technically a controlled substance but the point is 422 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:47,919 you can ban whatever you want ban people from wearing a specific type of t-shirt 423 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:53,080 I'm not yeah I I went and played badminton at a local like like a country 424 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:58,639 club like it was actually you have to have the right type of shoes You didn't mark up the floor um no no oh the story 425 00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:02,159 is better than that okay so no no any Badminton Center won't let you in the 426 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:07,919 front door with black so shoes even if they're non-marking yeah no way clear 427 00:32:04,679 --> 00:32:11,039 souls or get out yeah um cuz like those 428 00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:13,679 mats are I think 10 grand M each so you 429 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:19,799 run around putting marks on them get it out um so I had never been 430 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:23,760 to one of those types of places like you have you ever to a country club yeah 431 00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:30,519 like like that style of establishment for golfing once okay so I 432 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:33,399 didn't get to go inside right exactly I specifically stayed outside so I was 433 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:40,039 allowed inside we were kind of snuck in so it's 434 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:46,080 kind of a long story but I know someone who who knows someone who um who got 435 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,360 grandfathered into a membership here even though the sister club that they 436 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,480 were a member of that got them grandfathered in is much less expensive 437 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:57,960 this one is apparently like tens of thousands of dollars to buy your initial 438 00:32:54,679 --> 00:33:01,639 membership plus your annual fee like 439 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:05,480 like balling things I would never do so 440 00:33:01,639 --> 00:33:08,360 anyway I um I I came to play badminton 441 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:12,840 on there're like completely empty and like the floors were amazing like 442 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:18,720 there's the there's there's there's like gym floors which kind of suck because 443 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:22,080 the grip isn't great and the the impact can be is very heavy it's kind of harder 444 00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:25,360 on your knees then there's the rubber floors which have like kind of a padding 445 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:30,080 those are the green ones that you've seen and that's actually what they play 446 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:36,159 on professionally and then there's really good gym floors so really good 447 00:33:32,919 --> 00:33:37,799 gym floors actually have spring to them 448 00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:42,559 uh some people don't know this but you can design a gym floor so that it 449 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:45,240 actually has like a suspension system 450 00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:50,120 basically to it and that's where you get the the cushion that you would normally 451 00:33:46,919 --> 00:33:52,519 get with like foam but you get the uh 452 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:57,000 you get the but you also get the like the smoothness and the the impact of a 453 00:33:54,679 --> 00:34:02,559 wooden floor and if it's well finished it's it's gorgeous was great to play on 454 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,679 anyway we didn't realize until or or our 455 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:08,919 guest or our host who who allowed Us in didn't realize until we showed up that 456 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,119 he had forgotten to tell us that it's white clothes only oh my God so I was 457 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:17,800 actually in one of the and the funny thing about professional badminton is 458 00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:23,399 you go and you look up the greatest badminton player of all time arguably 459 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:29,480 definitely in the world right now and every picture of the guy he's wearing 460 00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:31,280 red and gold for the team China um it's 461 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:36,760 it's not a thing in professional badminton this is just a snoody here's 462 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:39,480 our house rules thing so I guess I don't really remember where I was going with 463 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:45,399 this the point is that you can have whatever rules you want with respect to 464 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,200 attire and substances and anything and 465 00:34:45,399 --> 00:34:52,359 that's basically it I've got people bringing up Serena 466 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:57,920 Williams it's not even the right sport yeah I mean she does hold a racket 467 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:03,280 and didn't she get wrecked by some dude who's like ranked 200 or something yeah 468 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:07,560 but like come on I and I think that was the you're saying best in the world This 469 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Is An Open Bracket the guys count okay yes yes you could you could 470 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:19,000 say that uh fun fact about Badminton is it's the only Olympic sport where men 471 00:35:16,359 --> 00:35:22,400 and women compete on the same field at the same time against each other that's 472 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:29,400 cool yeah interesting hey yeah uh okay so why 473 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,880 don't we move on um 474 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:39,920 what do we got here let's do a let's do a rapid fire topic this is interesting 475 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:43,760 so iOS 8 is at 85% adoption Google is uh 476 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:46,000 relatively uh quiet about uh lollipop 477 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,119 over there so let's go ahead and post oh I posted the wrong one in the twitch 478 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,680 chat trash poop yeah lollipop you know I'm really 479 00:35:52,240 --> 00:36:00,400 worried about the Droid Turbo because I got lollipop 5.1 480 00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:06,720 like a week and a half ago okay so the odds that I'm going to 481 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,240 get Eminem or marsipan or marshmallow or 482 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:13,960 whatever it is they're calling it the odds that I'm going to get that ever I 483 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:16,000 consider to be fairly low and I don't 484 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,079 know I think it's some app that I'm using that got an update recently or 485 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:25,160 something but droid turbo I'm like barely making 486 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,800 it through a day right now on lollipop I 487 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:32,480 only used it for like one day so maybe it was a really you know heavy flow day 488 00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:36,880 so to speak so I'm I'm at 5.0.2 and this thing like the only 489 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:41,359 reason why I like this phone is one cuz it's waterproof which is cool and two 490 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:46,560 because it just lasts forever right like I I very rarely charge my phone two 491 00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:50,359 three times a week cups and it just survives the whole time yeah so I'm I'm 492 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,599 having trouble but anyway that's uh there's there's there's a lot of other 493 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:57,040 issues with lollipop I absolutely hate that's not a droid turbo no this I'm not 494 00:36:55,599 --> 00:37:02,359 using droid turbo right now it's S6 active I hate the way that lollipop 495 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,359 piles up your like notifications as just little icons instead of just letting you 496 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:10,599 scroll through them who thought it was a good idea to make one touch wait for an 497 00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:15,520 animation and then scroll through your notification idea it's like you're using 498 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:19,040 a desk who thought that was a good idea idea because it feels like you're moving 499 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:23,760 papers on a desk cuz I get a lot of notifications people are always giving 500 00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:27,960 me crap in my phone reviews about like you've got so many like things in your 501 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:32,480 things I'm like you know what I never clear them because there's literally no 502 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:36,800 point it will fill up in like 20 minutes oh I just got 500 Instagram 503 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:41,400 notifications okay y but then you still need notifications on because it'll tell 504 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,400 you when certain people do something so 505 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,400 Apple has managed to get 85% of their 506 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,079 active users on iOS 8 133% are running 507 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:54,079 iOS 7 and a mere 2% are running an earlier version of iOS I mean part of 508 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:59,640 this is you could probably make the argument that Apple does an okay job of 509 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:04,079 planned obs lence through degraded performance like my iPhone 4 runs way 510 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,800 worse than it used to uh there's other reasons why it might run way worse 511 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,920 definitely the operating system but there's also definitely other reasons 512 00:38:08,839 --> 00:38:15,079 and things have gotten more demanding we expect more from our mobile devices and 513 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,319 the app developers are happy to deliver that to us and we're just going to have 514 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:21,680 to upgrade our Hardware to keep up because quite frankly even an Android 515 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:25,480 device from you know five years ago or like how how old of a device do you have 516 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:30,040 to have to be stuck on iOS 6 that would be like four to five years ago 517 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:36,680 an Android device from that kind of era is going to be horrible like absolutely 518 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:39,520 horrible for everything so um Google it 519 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:46,440 looks like their numbers Android 5 is accounting for a mere 520 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:50,280 11.6% of devices with 5.1 just 521 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:55,359 0.8% with the vast majority so that's uh 522 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:57,440 39.2 plus 37.4 still running um Kit Kat 523 00:38:55,359 --> 00:39:04,000 and jelly bean it's almost an even SPL spit there so it's almost 80% on Kit Kat 524 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:08,800 and jelly bean yeah not quite but almost so lollipop is a flop for whatever 525 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:14,400 reason and hopefully the next version of Android t- rash yeah I I don't know I 526 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,160 had a lot of people rubbing their Nexus phones in my face when I was uh running 527 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:23,160 the droid turbo on KitKat and I was just 528 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,160 like 529 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:31,040 K # long hair don't care is that a #uh I 530 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:35,400 don't know all right let's uh speaking of things that everyone should care 531 00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:41,720 about let's move into what is really our big topic of the day oh God hackers have 532 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,560 managed to remotely kill a Jeep on the 533 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:48,520 highway original article here is from wired.com let's go ahead and pull that 534 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:53,839 up it's not a very picture heavy uh article here so there's not a whole lot 535 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,839 for me to visually show you guys but 536 00:39:53,839 --> 00:40:00,160 here's the Jeep uh after its breaks were 537 00:39:56,839 --> 00:40:02,520 remotely disabled sending it into a 538 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,000 ditch so we'll give you guys the whole skinny on this I'll make my way through 539 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:10,240 the very detailed uh summary that I think Nick has been quite hard at work 540 00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:14,359 on and would be upset if I didn't somewhat make my way through it so 541 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,599 basically it was a showcase piece uh done by wired featuring hackers Charlie 542 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,319 Miller and Chris valis um it's a result 543 00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:26,319 of some car hacking research that they've done over the last year it's a 544 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:32,400 zero day exploit that's targeting Jeep Cherokees that give the hacker wireless 545 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:37,720 control of the vehicle and it's not full control for example the hacker cannot 546 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:41,319 take control over steering unless the 547 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:43,760 vehicle is going backwards yeah so if 548 00:40:41,319 --> 00:40:46,880 you're going forward the hacker cannot take over your steering uh but there's a 549 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:52,240 lot of other stuff they can do so they're able to send commands to the 550 00:40:48,839 --> 00:40:55,000 2014 Jeep's dashboard functions steering 551 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:58,920 brakes and transmission through its Entertainment System uh in this this 552 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:03,960 case they were 10 m away from the vehicle but the exploit is not limited 553 00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:07,359 by distance so they were able to mess with air conditioning radio windshield 554 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:15,079 wipers and then they cut the transmission they can also kill the engine entirely at low speeds abruptly 555 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:17,720 engage the brakes or completely disable 556 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:21,839 the brakes it can also track GPS coordinates measure the speed of the 557 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:26,119 vehicle and drop pins behind it on a map tracking where it is going so this isn't 558 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:32,640 the first time that wired has done a piece with these hackers about car hacking but it is the first time that 559 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:35,200 the hack could be carried out wirelessly 560 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:40,720 which is obviously a much greater concern than if 561 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,040 someone gains physical access to your 562 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,520 car and you know injects Mal still 563 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:50,880 that's still freaky because your car is going to be parked in public parking lots a lot that's still a super big 564 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:55,440 problem and honestly will continue to still be a super big problem because 565 00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:57,280 we'll be a lot a lot easier than 566 00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,400 wirelessly hacking a car so we still have to Super pay attention to that but 567 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:05,599 wirelessly hacking a car especially being able to mass do it like what if 568 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:12,640 someone turned off all the brakes on every Jeep all at once that would be 569 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:17,520 bad that' be terrible they claimed that they like oh well we like we didn't 570 00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:22,119 think it was that big of a deal no one's going to do this right we just make cars 571 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:25,119 we don't have to worry about it which is pathetic and I'm sure someone internally 572 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:33,440 told them at some point in time and they were just like whatev um 573 00:42:28,839 --> 00:42:35,559 and there's always oh God dear um this 574 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:41,000 is hilarious oh yeah that's coming uh but yeah so there's there's there's 575 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:46,920 problems with this because car companies are notorious after everyone watched 576 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,800 Fight Club for um having their their 577 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:53,040 their calculation where they try to decide whether or not it's worth 578 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:56,559 recalling something that's not really going to work anymore because with 579 00:42:55,599 --> 00:43:01,119 something like that you can see it progressively happen over time like okay we had a few accidents here we had a few 580 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,520 accidents there all right we'll pull them all back so we don't have more with 581 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:10,480 this it's going to be like oh there's an exploit oh every Jeep is compromised 582 00:43:07,319 --> 00:43:13,720 yeah and to be to be clear this is not 583 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:16,599 just one vehicle so it's uh This was 584 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:20,960 done through UK connect which is uh hold on let me just see I I want to I want to 585 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:24,800 get like the wording for all this right because it's kind of a serious topic uh 586 00:43:22,839 --> 00:43:30,559 so that's the entertainment nav phone management and Wi-Fi hotspot aspect of 587 00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:33,200 Chrysler and their sub brand vehicles 588 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:37,000 and it is estimated that there are as many as 589 00:43:34,359 --> 00:43:42,760 471 th000 vehicles on the road with vulner vulnerable UK connect systems in 590 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:47,559 the US now now it's only been fully tested on a Jeep Cherokee but the 591 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:54,839 hackers believe that they could access any car with a UK connect head unit now 592 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:58,280 the big concern to me about this is not 593 00:43:54,839 --> 00:44:02,599 that a car got hacked but it's that the 594 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:05,440 auto makers live in such a different 595 00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:09,599 world than the high than the high technology companies that we generally 596 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:16,119 talk about whether it's your Googles or your apples or your microsofts where 597 00:44:12,839 --> 00:44:19,599 they'll see something like this and with 598 00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:22,280 exceptions treat it like a big deal and 599 00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:27,440 and act on it quickly car companies are used to operating on a much longer 600 00:44:25,319 --> 00:44:33,040 development cycle you know we're talking it could be a half a dozen years from 601 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:38,079 the first you know drawing on a napkin to a car with rubber tires on it that 602 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:41,440 drives on the road which probably looks like all the other ones which probably 603 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:47,440 looks like all the other ones so so we're we're talking like best case 604 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:51,119 scenario the vehicle that you're driving 605 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,280 today has incorporated ideas that are as 606 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:57,640 old as you know five six or even more 607 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,680 years ago is why um 608 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:05,000 like investigating Car Technology is sometimes really boring yeah because 609 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,640 it's like oh they have a 7in tablet 610 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:13,119 that's 480p yay okay and a super grainy camera 611 00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:16,680 and you have to use a dial thing to do anything because it's not a touchcreen 612 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,040 yeah so but but that's just that's just something that we have to understand 613 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:25,000 though is that these guys work on a very very different cycle whereas security 614 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:30,079 guys you know if you go if you go talk to someone at you know um EET for 615 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:34,720 example or you go talk to someone at McAfee they're going to be like uh yeah 616 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:39,480 you need to be on that stuff like right away or it's a or it's a huge problem 617 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:45,520 and so Chrysler's statement really underlines that difference in Attitude 618 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,960 to me in a terrifying terrifying way the 619 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:52,200 way that the fact that they thought it was okay to address this this way so 620 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:57,680 they stated that they appreciate Miller and valek's work but under no 621 00:45:55,079 --> 00:46:03,240 circumstances does FCA condone or believe it's appropriate to disclose 622 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:08,000 howto information that would potentially encourage or help enable hackers to gain 623 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:14,440 unauthorized and unlawful access to Vehicle Systems so they don't even 624 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:18,760 understand the concept of white hat at 625 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:21,160 all they think it's okay to release that 626 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:25,680 statement that they don't even understand why it's important for the 627 00:46:23,319 --> 00:46:28,839 code to be out there and for people to understand the exploit for it to be 628 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:34,880 closed and they're like oh we didn't think they were going to release the code so we were just like ah I'm just 629 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:38,640 like okay they want someone found it someone else can and we'll find it if 630 00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:45,920 they they just want to they just want to you know hide in their shell of that 631 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:48,839 people won't do it so we can just ignore 632 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:54,640 this and if we just don't talk about it then it will go away it is not going 633 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:59,480 away cars are getting more and more intelligent and more connected and as 634 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:03,359 cars get more and more computerized control over more and more of their 635 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:07,359 features we're talking self-driving cars and as little as what musk figures five 636 00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:14,280 six years yeah I mean this becomes this becomes an 637 00:47:10,359 --> 00:47:14,280 episode of Doctor Who extremely 638 00:47:14,359 --> 00:47:19,800 quickly um I've never watched Doctor Who but I'm going to nod my head knowingly 639 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:23,559 yeah it's a great it's a great episode The the bad guys take over everyone's 640 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,400 cars and drive them into lakes and stuff oh that's not good basically this 641 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,599 happens um so let me just see if there's anything else that we can that we can 642 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:34,240 really that we can really add some chat said then they tagged me just wait till 643 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:38,160 Tesla gets hacked it has to happen eventually very probably anything that 644 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:42,559 can connect to something can be hacked like we said that's not the issue here 645 00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:48,680 no the issue here is is their response their response is completely wrong and 646 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,800 just I love Tesla they're also not invulnerable yeah no one's perfect no 647 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:57,000 but instead of acknowledging that no one's perfect and you got to get your 648 00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:00,760 act together and create an internal task force and publicly talk about the 649 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:06,680 internal task force that you're creating to address this and keep your an eye on 650 00:48:03,319 --> 00:48:08,119 it for the future um I don't remember 651 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:12,839 how I started that sentence so it's hard for me to finish it coherently but the 652 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:17,400 point is that's the way to deal with it yeah not to just go well hey you know 653 00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:21,680 you guys we don't condone you guys releasing this because now everyone's 654 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:28,200 going to know about it uh yeah including you so fix it that's how you do 655 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:30,240 this um uh 656 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:34,960 so yeah the the hackers had the the usual sort of response as like yeah hey 657 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:39,359 this would be pretty good for a hacker um and you know we that they think it's 658 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:44,680 they they believe that releasing the portion of the code is important since it allows their peers to prove their 659 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:51,400 work um and holds automakers accountable for their digital security I mean 660 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:53,960 remember guys there white hat is not 661 00:48:51,400 --> 00:49:01,000 about finding an exploit and then releasing it to a bunch of you know Bad 662 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:03,599 Dudes before notifying the company who 663 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:08,839 the code belongs to I promise you they contacted that company first exactly 664 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:14,520 Tesla has a $10,000 Bounty for any hacks apparently just got told by our buddy 665 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,839 techbench TV um so they're actively 666 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:20,480 trying to get people to submit stuff like this so that they can fix it I 667 00:49:18,799 --> 00:49:23,799 didn't even know that that's fantastic good job Tesla that's how you should 668 00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:28,119 respond to these things you should try to welcome these guys with open arms and 669 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,359 be like yeah yes thank you for finding this here is some money here's some 670 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:36,520 money here's a big bag of money maybe try to work with us on fixing it maybe 671 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:40,559 not I don't know whatever thank you here's money goodbye there could be more 672 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:44,640 bags of money involved or potentially a job even that's honestly a way that a 673 00:49:42,799 --> 00:49:49,200 lot of people get hired so this is really scary um US senator Mary uh one 674 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,160 of the leads on the new security legislation for the national highway 675 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:56,880 traffic safety administration and Federal Trade Commission uh sent a 676 00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:01,000 letter to 20 automakers so again this this underlines sort of my point about 677 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:05,000 the automakers and how they approach technology asking them a series of 678 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:10,240 questions about security practices the answers to it showed quote unquote quote 679 00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:13,680 excuse me a clear lack of appropriate security measures to protect drivers 680 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:18,920 against hackers who may be able to take control of a vehicle unquote only seven 681 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:23,680 of 16 respondents said they hired independent security firms to test their 682 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:27,680 vehicles digital security and only two said their vehicles had monitoring 683 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:33,040 systems that checked their car internal Network networks for malicious digital 684 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:38,640 commands so the takeaway here is not that Chrysler and Jeep um are dumb and 685 00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:43,720 their cars are bad and super hackable that's not the point the point is this 686 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:50,440 is a huge attitude shift that needs to happen in the automotive industry and 687 00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:53,079 right now is scary to the point where 688 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:59,559 like I'm not I'm not much of a fearmonger I tend to mostly live my life 689 00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:02,319 without without the tin foil hat 690 00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:08,640 but this could affect automated things are scary and this is why Elon and 691 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:12,559 um can't remember his name right now dude in the wheelchair super crazy smart 692 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:16,240 does research his time Sten Haw there we go Stephen Hawking Elon Musk and Stephen 693 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:22,520 Hawking have both been pushing really hard to research the potential downsides 694 00:51:20,799 --> 00:51:25,880 and research stopping those potential downsides of AI and Automation in 695 00:51:24,359 --> 00:51:32,200 general and that's a very smart thing that should be doing and we're 696 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:33,640 not it's like I don't know some people 697 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:42,119 I've said this a few times people gaw at me a little bit but it's it's kind of like we're making the nuke again right 698 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:44,000 with Automation and Ai and we're kind of 699 00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:49,319 not really worrying about the downsides too much 700 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:53,799 again and yeah I hope we don't go that rout all right so I just dropped a straw 701 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,200 poll on you guys does this news affect 702 00:51:53,799 --> 00:52:00,240 the way you'll shop for a tech heavy cars 703 00:51:57,319 --> 00:52:04,640 because I'm going to be honest guys like it was actually it was actually Ed edel 704 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:09,440 who told me about this initially we were filming something out in the garage and 705 00:52:06,839 --> 00:52:14,000 he's shopping for a car right now and so immediately like the first thing I asked 706 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:17,599 him is does this affect the way oh there's a Tesla outside not a Tesla oh 707 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:21,280 wait what what are you talking about isn't that a TLX I wouldn't know a TLX 708 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,760 from a hole in the wall I'm not a car guy I thought that was why you were I thought it was a Tesla no it's just that 709 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,839 car has never been here before and it's been here for the last little bit oh 710 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,319 okay can I help you I think that's his 711 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:43,400 who's Ed's oh did he buy one I don't know he 712 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:47,000 lied to me anyway it's been here consistently during work hours for the 713 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:50,720 last little bit oh okay well the point is I thought it might have been someone 714 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:54,040 else's I don't know yeah not a car guy at all can't believe I didn't even know 715 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:58,400 that they don't look that similar do I think it is whatever I don't care okay 716 00:52:55,720 --> 00:53:03,680 the point is that Ed's Ed was shopping for a car at least and might still be so 717 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:08,920 what I said was okay well does this news affect you buying a car that is more 718 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:13,920 technology heavy and I also pitched in that you know I have a lightly used 2003 719 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:19,400 Honda Civic that's manual everything including everyone in the chat is like 720 00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:22,920 it's a spy it's Logan it's Logan in 721 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:25,200 including a manual transmission and I've 722 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:30,079 got to say for the first time ever I felt like my mom 723 00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:35,920 where she kind of has this she has kind of this innate distrust of social media 724 00:53:33,799 --> 00:53:39,319 and posting information on the internet the stuff that my generation doesn't 725 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:46,280 really think about the same way that hers does about technology and I kind of 726 00:53:42,799 --> 00:53:48,760 went yeah I feel pretty good that 727 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:54,480 there's no camera in my car and there's no and and like the brake pedals 728 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,920 connected to the brake pedal thing the 729 00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:01,359 brake pedal thing connected to the disc thing the disc thing is connected to the 730 00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:05,359 wheel thing and the car just stops like that no outside 731 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:09,960 interference I felt pretty good about that for the first time ever and one 732 00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:12,200 thing that's a little sketched too uh is something that I don't think any of the 733 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:17,359 articles are talking about right now which is the proof of things happening 734 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:22,640 if someone cuts your brake line in real life your brake line's 735 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:26,880 cut okay pretty straightforward if someone cuts your brakes digitally and 736 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:32,280 then exits and there's no way to tell that they did that then all of a sudden 737 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:35,720 you're liable for mowing down oh look 738 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:37,480 there was a registered no press on the 739 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:41,960 break and there was a registered full press on the pedal and you ran over 100 740 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:47,799 people uh you're screwed yeah you're criminally liable in that case potenti 741 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:49,839 like registering a key press so this is 742 00:54:47,799 --> 00:54:56,000 like some scary stuff we've actually got 57% of you and this is a techsavvy 743 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:57,760 audience I think 57% of you saying yes 744 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,920 this affects the way you'll shop for a tech heavy 745 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:05,079 car with 22% of you saying turnip and 746 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:09,319 only 20% of you saying No this won't affect the way you shop incredible hey 747 00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:14,480 it would affect the way that I would shop I would I wouldn't go with ones 748 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:16,880 that were answering this way not saying necessarily I would go with the Tesla 749 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:23,280 because they're drastically way too expensive but I would not go with any company that was answering in that 750 00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:26,400 matter um in related news Fiat issues a 751 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,839 software patch after hackers take over 752 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:34,599 that car so there you go um speaking of it not 753 00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:39,000 being there's actually no there's no evidence that the particular model that 754 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:43,319 they were patching is is affected in any way but uh there you go I mean here's 755 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:50,799 another here's another thing where like again the car maker mentality is just is 756 00:55:47,799 --> 00:55:52,480 decades behind um you know you see so 757 00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:56,760 many things whether it's your phone or your computer or or you know your game 758 00:55:55,160 --> 00:56:01,160 console or even your t you know TVs traditionally move a lot 759 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:06,720 slower than computers but even they're caught up uh over the a firmware updates 760 00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:10,920 over the air patching you know cars don't even have that so if all of a 761 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:16,920 sudden you have to install you know security updates for your car every 762 00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:20,039 month Tesla's do uh Tesla's do but no 763 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:22,720 one's even no one's even thought of this 764 00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:26,720 they were they were so far behind in their thought process that they built 765 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:32,240 all this networking functionality in and literally didn't build in a way for 766 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:39,160 users to just patch it by pressing a button so 767 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,880 yeah um wow and then this is also 768 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:45,359 related so Fiat is a sub brand of Chrysler Chrysler to recall 1.4 million 769 00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:49,480 Vehicles after the remote hijack bug was found it's a voluntary recall which is 770 00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:54,200 related to the firmware thing that I was saying because the voluntary recall is 771 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:56,920 just a a flash such a 772 00:56:54,200 --> 00:57:01,520 weird thing to call it it's like it's voluntary for one so a 773 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:04,079 voluntary recall is just a little weird and then they're not even really 774 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:08,640 recalling the car you're just supposed to come in and get it patched which 775 00:57:05,799 --> 00:57:13,079 means they recalled it you're just like you're going to give it back to you hey 776 00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:18,760 you can come get a patch I don't know yeah so the they they figure yeah it's a 777 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:24,039 software update it's not a voluntary recall so uh affected cars include Dodge 778 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:28,400 Vipers RAM trucks Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees Dodge Durango Chrysler 779 00:57:25,799 --> 00:57:32,880 200 300 uh Dodge Chargers Dodge Challengers and uh Chrysler owners can 780 00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:36,440 enter their Vin at a provided website to check if their vehicle is included in 781 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:41,960 the recall yeah so someone in the chat uh 782 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:47,440 nail puppy voluntary recall equals we are doing this because we were forced to 783 00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:51,799 yeah so I don't our legal department was like hey you should probably do this so 784 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,799 we 785 00:57:53,799 --> 00:58:00,039 did that oh this is this is great so 786 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,880 more more stupidity uh the company is 787 00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:06,160 unaware of any injuries related to software exploitation nor is it aware of 788 00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:10,559 any related complaints warranty claims or accidents independent of the mediate 789 00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:13,760 demonstration someone in twitch chat just reminded us we have to do sponsor 790 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:18,880 Chrysler spokesperson oh thank you for that uh not clear uh oh oh oh oh this is 791 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:24,400 great issues will be discussed uh more deeply at next month 792 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:30,799 stepcon it's like because you have a month to deal with these kinds of 793 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:32,920 things you super don't by the way uh 794 00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:38,119 Chrysler's statement the software manipulation addressed by this recall 795 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:43,440 required unique and extensive technical knowledge prolonged physical access to a 796 00:58:40,839 --> 00:58:50,160 subject vehicle and extended periods of time to write 797 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:53,039 code as if that's a barrier at all it's 798 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:56,039 like it's like they think that techsavvy coders 799 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:04,119 aren't everywhere I that's really stupid 800 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:07,240 H and so another it was kind of hard great so we didn't think we had to do 801 00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:11,640 anything about it great quote from The Verge um it's not clear If the message 802 00:59:10,359 --> 00:59:16,440 was about the importance of this was fully received as Chrysler insists it's 803 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:21,359 only taking the step out of an abundance of 804 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:23,440 caution I I couldn't even abundance of 805 00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:27,119 caution now I'm just getting mad I'm actually like like I'm getting upset 806 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:32,520 this is why but this is what I'm talking about this is why I wouldn't purchase from one of those companies if like like 807 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:36,200 this is why I would definitely take this into consideration with purchasing a car 808 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,400 I wouldn't necessarily avoid purchasing a high-tech car I would just purchase a 809 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,720 high-tech car from someone who's probably going to give a crap about the 810 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:50,960 car once I buy it from them it's like why why is the why is 811 00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:53,559 the ah like why did the American 812 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:59,440 automotive industry just collapse because they've got their heads 813 00:59:56,319 --> 01:00:03,000 completely up their own butts Still 814 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:06,280 Still this is the reaction to a 815 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:11,000 potential to an opportunity for them to 816 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:14,000 turn this into awesome PR like hey we've 817 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:17,079 allocated this many millions of dollars 818 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,640 to this bounty program and this and like 819 01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:27,160 a quick reaction not we'll discuss it in a month because this patch is an 820 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,160 overabundance of caution 821 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:35,880 okay well I just got some good news we're getting like a sick like uh 822 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:40,520 conference cam from Logitech for our for our boardroom at the new office it's 823 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,039 like an $800 webcam nice essentially 824 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:45,920 with like a bunch of connected features and like ball and microphone hopefully 825 01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:48,880 it's good because you know I've been to a fair amount of conference rooms and 826 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,480 used a fair amount of those conference cams not a lot of them are trash 827 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:57,839 Logitech is so proud of this particular one that they've basically discontinued 828 01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,880 the entire rest of their webcam lineup and they're just focusing on this one 829 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:07,000 that's cool yeah all right we'll try that so um oh right right sponsor spots 830 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,200 I should probably do that uh fix uh I 831 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,520 don't think we have I fix it yeah the kit anymore I don't have one the kit we 832 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:17,319 needed it which I guess is actually a pretty good which is a good thing so 833 01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:21,960 what can we say about iFixit other than that they have great tutorials on their 834 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:26,960 website it's ifixit.com and the site is pretty self-explanatory it's so that you 835 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:32,760 guys can ship your stuff to me and I'll fix it it's so that if you're talking in 836 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,359 the first person I can fix it yes like I 837 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,240 can fix my own things I'm not going to fix your stuff everyone in the audience 838 01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:42,559 can say I can fix it and it's true because 839 01:01:40,839 --> 01:01:48,720 the guides are great the pictures are great the instructions are great and the 840 01:01:46,039 --> 01:01:53,119 tools that you need are available right on the same site So that's iix its big 841 01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:56,079 push with us is the Protek tool kit but quite frankly I've talked about the 842 01:01:54,319 --> 01:02:01,599 Protek toolkit enough that you guys you probably know it has most of what you 843 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:07,119 will need to disassemble and reassemble things like tablets and smartphones and 844 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:10,799 uh laptops any kinds of kind of smaller Electronics one of my favorite things 845 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,400 about the protect toolkit and I fix it in general is when you read one of their 846 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,240 tutorials and they'll tell you what tools you need yes so they've actually 847 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:21,640 got where to buy links like that's such a smart business model these guys are 848 01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:24,880 Savvy guys so but they also have a whole bunch of other crap on their site that 849 01:02:23,079 --> 01:02:28,680 you can buy like that magnetic sheet that I use whenever I'm disassembling uh 850 01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:33,400 smartphones and laptops that have a lot of different kinds of screws I used it 851 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:37,400 in my iMac disassembly uh they've got like they've got stuff like the adhesive 852 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:41,960 strips that you need to put stuff back together cuz a lot of the time modern 853 01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:46,000 electronics are not assembled just with screws and St GL a lot of it's glues and 854 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:49,000 adhesives so they'll sell you know the suction cup things that you need to 855 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:53,319 remove that they'll sell the strips that you need to put back together and all 856 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:57,359 that kind of stuff so great guys save $10 with offer code when on an order of 857 01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:04,000 $50 or more so you can get your own protect tool kit today and then this is 858 01:03:01,279 --> 01:03:10,119 a sponsor that you haven't heard from in a long time is it because we thought you 859 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:12,839 guys needed a break maybe because it was 860 01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:18,000 pretty much all we talked about at C protector there y so Phantom store. 861 01:03:19,799 --> 01:03:29,680 phantom.in protector for your phone that is easy to apply basically impossible to 862 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:31,520 get bubbles under and just plain works 863 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:36,200 really really well it's made of Gorilla Glass so it's got that same feel that 864 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:41,079 same transparency as the screen that was already on your phone not to mention 865 01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:46,359 that same scratch resistance and it's super thin except that you don't even 866 01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:50,240 have to worry about your phone at all and they've actually got a lot of 867 01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:56,000 different options um I am really liking the iPhone 6 edgo Edge this one's cool 868 01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:59,480 because normally with a screen protector whether it's Phantom or anyone else the 869 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,799 screen protector sits on the screen and then you'll have a ridge around it no 870 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,319 matter how thin your screen protector is with the edge to edge one it's actually 871 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:09,960 a complete glass panel for the entire front of the phone and then it's just 872 01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:14,720 colored in the same spots as the original one so other than the um the 873 01:04:12,839 --> 01:04:18,240 fingerprint sensor home button being a little bit recessed which I like I've 874 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:21,680 got one of these on my iPhone 6 that I use intermittently all the time making 875 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:26,559 it a little bit harder to get my touch ID to pick up sometimes it just feels 876 01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:30,319 like holding my phone exactly the way it was so they support a whack ton of 877 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:35,720 different phones and tablets and all this kind of good stuff and you guys can 878 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:37,799 check it out at store. 879 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:42,279 phantom.in new screen protector I think their pricing is lower than last time we 880 01:04:40,359 --> 01:04:48,119 looked at them as well they're sitting in the $35 to $40 Canadian range wow 881 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:53,000 that's I think that's significantly lower than so there you go guys store. 882 01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:04,520 so we want to move on to yet another massive topic for this week 883 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:06,440 insane so uh this one original article 884 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:10,880 here actually I I forget which article I read On It originally but um here's one 885 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:17,319 from the register this one is just kind of based on a quote from John McAfee the 886 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,839 Ashley Madison hack May destabilize 887 01:05:17,319 --> 01:05:26,240 Society so if you guys didn't hear about this earlier in the week there were uh 888 01:05:24,319 --> 01:05:33,359 37 million some odd people plus that had a pretty 889 01:05:31,319 --> 01:05:38,200 stressful morning on Monday this week I wonder if 890 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:43,279 anyone was like paying really close attention to their spouse to see if they 891 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:47,640 were like hyper stressed out I I don't 892 01:05:43,279 --> 01:05:50,839 know man um you know if I if I suspect 893 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:53,000 it already or something like that I 894 01:05:50,839 --> 01:05:57,799 would be I would be following this whole thing pretty darn closely so for those 895 01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:02,279 of you you who are not familiar with Ashley Madison it's a site that is all 896 01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:08,760 about well okay I'll start I guess I'll open with their tagline life's short 897 01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:12,799 have an affair so the site is a dating 898 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:14,799 site for married people um and not for 899 01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:19,920 married people with each other for married people with other more different 900 01:06:16,839 --> 01:06:21,720 married people um to be fair there's 901 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:26,079 some people on the site that are in poly or open relationships but I think that's 902 01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:29,240 not the majority of it so just wanted to make sure that people don't freak out in 903 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:33,039 twitch chat and go like well some relationships are okay with it yeah we 904 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:40,319 realized that I just think the majority of them are not so basically the hackers 905 01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:42,079 submitted a um submitted a a demand list 906 01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:46,720 that was pretty much look you need to shut down this site shut down uh I 907 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:52,319 forget what their other sites are called they're they're not as famous they're not as common but shut down your other 908 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:59,160 sites or we are going to release they had not only the user database of the 909 01:06:56,119 --> 01:07:01,319 current active users but Ashley Madison 910 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:07,039 had a service for I think1 18 or $19 that supposedly wiped all of your 911 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:13,599 information from everywhere they still had it so the hack 912 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:19,119 oh my retrieved that information as well so so the the Hacker's demand is 913 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:24,240 actually looking like it could cost less for the Toronto based company than the 914 01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:29,319 lawsuits that could result in I mean can you even imagine imagine the liability 915 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:34,119 that you're on the hook for if you arguably caused a divorce which could 916 01:07:32,279 --> 01:07:38,279 arguably in the case of you know if people are millionaires or 917 01:07:35,319 --> 01:07:43,520 multi-millionaires cost Millions upon millions of dollars um I can't find the 918 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:49,799 dollar count um other websites that they owned 919 01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:50,960 were uh Cougar Life and established men 920 01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:56,680 there's other websites as well but I don't yeah oh those were the ones that they demanded that they shut down so uh 921 01:07:55,240 --> 01:08:01,799 the this is this is good I mean there's articles all over the place so to be clear I don't I haven't been following 922 01:08:00,079 --> 01:08:06,559 it all week unfortunately I really wish I had and I really wish that I sort of 923 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:09,839 had had checked on it before uh before this again so the 37 million users are 924 01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:15,839 are worldwide I think they operate in something like 40 countries apparently it's um if you combine all three of 925 01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:22,080 those websites the ones that I just named it's 50 million people not 37 37 926 01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:26,440 is just Ashley Madison so U but the other ones aren't quite as uh quite as 927 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:32,000 targeted towards uh well I guess established men 928 01:08:29,480 --> 01:08:35,159 in a lot of cases probably would be although I don't think it's specifically 929 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:38,679 targeted at having an affair in the same case anyway the hackers didn't 930 01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:42,040 immediately release all the information but what they're saying is that they 931 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:47,080 will they're going to keep pushing it out as the site stays online so of 932 01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:52,159 course there's all kinds of so so people are getting outed already so this is an 933 01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:58,359 outed Ashley Madison user talking to uh talking to the Toronto son so he may be 934 01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:01,120 the unluckiest cheater of all time so 935 01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:05,920 just two were outed on an infidelity Vlog uh blog after a hacker group 936 01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:09,960 calling itself oops hold on a second dang 937 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:12,279 nabit two people uh hold on hold on hold 938 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:17,080 on yeah well they they they didn't uh they didn't go full force right away so 939 01:09:14,679 --> 01:09:19,960 they leaked two people um so yeah so they blah blah blah they threatened oh 940 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:24,799 so and there's a lot of other stuff stored in the accounts as well and the scariest thing about this is that it's 941 01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:29,679 validated by credit card number like your credit card numbers in there so you can't just be like uh someone else 942 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:33,960 signed up with my account oh my God no it's like it's like a huge deal and like 943 01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:37,560 they they apparently have people like documentation of people's sexual 944 01:09:35,839 --> 01:09:44,319 fantasies and stuff like that like this is a huge deal so uh so there's a couple 945 01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:49,719 guys here in exclusive interview the Miss Saga man said he looked but never 946 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:53,159 cheated he says sometimes you're just curious looking for friends then it 947 01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:57,960 doesn't necessarily appeal to you he said for friends uh he said he's been a 948 01:09:56,199 --> 01:10:02,199 husband for 20 years he works in the city has a young child he was clearly 949 01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:07,199 shocked and looked panicked while talking about the impact the release of 950 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:13,480 his name has had on his life oh yeah so he denied that he wrote 951 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:19,840 anything about liking to give and receive oral sex liking light kinky fun 952 01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:22,199 erotic tickling and role playing he said 953 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:27,159 he joined the site in 2010 and stayed on for 2 to 3 years then used the website's 954 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:32,880 paid delete option to have his profile removed for $19 he says I haven't been 955 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:37,400 on the site in a long long time adding that he never expected something like a 956 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,400 security breach to occur especially after you pay for a paid 957 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:49,760 delete so there you go they a paid delete 958 01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:54,760 option that literally just didn't do anything pretty much um and then and 959 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:58,120 then here's here's like here's a super here's a super super scary thing did you 960 01:10:56,480 --> 01:11:03,560 know that Ashley Madison is actually the second largest dating site behind 961 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:07,080 match.com so there's just just a horrifying number for people who believe 962 01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:13,560 in the sanctity of marriage and all of that yikes yikes he um so this is this 963 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:17,920 there there's some great quotes from um from John McAfee you know former 964 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:23,600 security wear maker you might have heard his name once in a while he hasn't been 965 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,480 a part of M for really long time so uh 966 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:30,800 this is this is a great quote he says this hack threatens to destabilize 967 01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:36,400 Society oh yeah and I hacked it again myself it was easy peasy so since Ashley 968 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:40,920 Madison said that they have you know they're addressing it he has apparently 969 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:47,239 been back in but you know I don't know I don't know if that's necessarily true 970 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:50,600 um so he said figures it was definitely 971 01:11:47,239 --> 01:11:52,560 the work of an individual acting alone 972 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,400 because whether whether he's saying because of the the motive behind 973 01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:59,639 something like this or whether he's saying because of the ease because he 974 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:06,600 said he was able to breach the site again 975 01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:11,199 himself uh he also said that 976 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:12,679 uh oh it was one of the sorry excuse me 977 01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:17,080 so so the pronouncement follows his earlier judgment that uh May's Adult 978 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:23,880 FriendFinder hack was one of the scariest hacks since the existence of 979 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,920 computers um wow this is just these are 980 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,520 because there's so much personal information ones and person information 981 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:33,800 that like people really don't want people KN I think people aren't scared 982 01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:36,080 enough about money because a lot of times if like your credit card gets 983 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:40,600 hacked or something you can get reimbursed this isn't a situation where 984 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:43,199 you can be reimbursed if this is released you don't just change your 985 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:48,120 credit card number everything intimate about you is 986 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,120 now known 987 01:12:51,800 --> 01:13:02,159 publicly so yeah I I don't I don't know man 988 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:02,159 like if they release the whole list 989 01:13:02,679 --> 01:13:09,440 like I mean it's one of those things am I evil for kind of wanting it to happen 990 01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:12,639 yeah I think so because hold on hold on a second it would be so much fun to 991 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:19,320 watch the world burn for a little while I saw a lot well is it okay hold on cuz 992 01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:21,679 I saw a lot of fun I saw a lot of people 993 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:28,080 say well they deserve it filthy cheaters not necessarily saying they deserve it 994 01:13:24,159 --> 01:13:30,320 they might and and and and you know what 995 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:37,800 I just didn't say either way you could say karma is a [ __ ] you could say that 996 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:41,560 but the reality of it is this 997 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:44,360 impacts potentially an additional 37 998 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:52,400 million people who might be living perfectly happy lives and is ignorance 999 01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:54,600 Bliss I don't know maybe and I disagree 1000 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:57,159 I would say hold on hold on hold on I I'll let you I'm sure you're going to 1001 01:13:56,199 --> 01:14:05,159 I'm sure you're going to have a lot to say about this and you know I would also 1002 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:07,080 make the argument that no no illegal 1003 01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:10,199 theft of someone else's personal information is 1004 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:17,159 justifiable yes so all that Karma as a 1005 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:22,199 [ __ ] stuff 1006 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:24,159 aside you shouldn't you cannot steal 1007 01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:29,080 other people's information it's not right to wrong 1008 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:30,440 do not make her right in this case so 1009 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:35,000 releasing the information would necessarily be the right thing to do because there's also a lot of problems 1010 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:38,280 with like where it said that guy's information was released in 2010 I 1011 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:42,360 wouldn't be surprised if they're not going to be too caring about join dates 1012 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:45,880 on the databas that they release and people might just be looking for names 1013 01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:51,280 so maybe you're in a new relationship and this is an old thing or maybe you're 1014 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:55,520 reformed maybe I know there's the credit card sign up thing but maybe your buddy 1015 01:14:53,639 --> 01:15:00,760 pranked you but then if he pranked you then like why 1016 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:05,280 wasn't the prank revealed who pranks their buddy by 1017 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,679 creating you know a well it might have been but then maybe 1018 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:13,679 he didn't bother tell his wife cuz he's like oh that was just 1019 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:16,440 dumb there's there's there's ways that you could come across one of these 1020 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:20,520 Accounts at the same time kind of want to watch the world 1021 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:25,040 burn don't necessarily know if it's a good idea just kind of would want to 1022 01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:32,400 watch the world burn a little bit um I don't know 1023 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:35,320 man like I'm I I am so very thankful 1024 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:42,679 that I have nothing to worry about here and I don't envy anyone who woke up 1025 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,679 Monday morning who has an Ashley Madison 1026 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:50,040 account that that is like can you can 1027 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,080 you imagine the the the amount of sick 1028 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:55,320 to your stomach cuz cuz the thing is is that 1029 01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:59,040 unless you're one of the couple un lucky people that they're that they're leaking 1030 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:02,600 you know in and that they're trickling out there is still potential and I don't 1031 01:16:01,239 --> 01:16:07,280 think it's going to happen for Ashley Madison to just seize operations and for 1032 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:13,679 the rest of the names to get buried down an internet hole somewhere um so to 1033 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:17,719 speak they could also wait for them to cease operations and like move everyone 1034 01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:25,000 on and not have employees anymore and then just be like database dump let's do 1035 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:26,760 this let's play a game okay really fun 1036 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:30,600 have an Ashley Madison account you're married we're going to role play a 1037 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:37,120 little bit here wow um all right what are your other fantasies 1038 01:16:32,639 --> 01:16:39,520 you some of them involves Smurfs oh 1039 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:45,400 wow we have some blue body paint let's do this anyways so so let's let's talk 1040 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:48,120 you hear about the Ashley Madison hack 1041 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:52,400 Monday morning y uh and I'm gonna I'm GNA I'm going to give you a full 1042 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:55,120 scenario okay you have been using 1043 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:59,840 ashleymadison.com actively L to cheat on your wife I'm going to 1044 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:04,880 give you two scenarios you've been using it actively 1045 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:07,320 currently okay so you you like cheated 1046 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:12,719 on her last week okay you've been using actually 1047 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:15,800 ter tell me how you react on Monday 1048 01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:17,760 morning what's your damage 1049 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:21,320 control uh I don't know if I want to give people good ideas or not knowing 1050 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:26,040 what you know about hackers what's your damage control uh 1051 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:31,880 it's not even it's not even knowing what you know about hackers because this has 1052 01:17:30,639 --> 01:17:35,800 nothing to do with that they have it they're done yeah but well but but a lot 1053 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:39,679 of a lot of lay people wouldn't necessarily know that that means it's 1054 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:43,199 basically game over that it will that it will end up somewhere and it will get 1055 01:17:41,199 --> 01:17:48,520 leaked somewhere it's just happening all over again yes 1056 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:51,520 so they might not release it they might not there's still potential that it 1057 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:56,920 actually won't get if it is one person let's say it's a scorned lover right 1058 01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:02,280 yeah it probably is I think that's what the maffy GU saying and it probably is 1059 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:07,280 he's targeting those specific websites yes yeah the ones that are all about 1060 01:18:04,639 --> 01:18:12,280 being married already so what's your action plan uh I'm a terrible person I 1061 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:17,560 just want to to put that out there for some um you have to try to act like you 1062 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,800 did on every other day if you buy your wife flowers all of a sudden and start 1063 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:24,560 freaking out she's going to read this article she be oh I wonder why he's being so nice blah blah blah blah blah 1064 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:30,440 it's so wonderful flower showed up at work oh what's this news article I don't 1065 01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:35,040 know why this is my married woman voice but whatever you're married to a pretty 1066 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,920 old woman yes apparently 1067 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:41,400 um but yeah so I don't know either either you go the route of just 1068 01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:44,560 hidey-hole and just act like what do you do you don't get to H your bets here but 1069 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:48,520 I don't cheat what's your action plan though I don't know say you did but I 1070 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:52,880 have to assume I'm a completely different person if I if I assumed I was a completely different person so I was 1071 01:18:51,480 --> 01:18:58,239 already going the road of cheating this whole time there's no real point in 1072 01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:02,800 revealing yourself at that point cuz it's not going to be any better than 1073 01:18:59,480 --> 01:19:04,320 just having it leaped later on right so 1074 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:08,440 I guess you just head your bets and keep going I go completely the opposite route 1075 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:14,440 you just reveal immediately yeah yeah I I I come clean because I'm not going 1076 01:19:11,679 --> 01:19:20,520 yeah I don't know because if it comes from you even if there was external 1077 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:25,719 pressure I think you have a better chance to salvage the situation right 1078 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:28,840 but I gu guess this is where my mind changes a little bit cuz in my head if 1079 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:33,920 that's going to happen from either person you should probably just end it 1080 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:38,360 anyways what if it's not that simple what if I throw a kid into your 1081 01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:43,320 scenario sometimes life's not simple I don't want kids I know but I 1082 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:48,440 you don't I'm putting myself in a very weird situation I'm like would never do 1083 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:52,840 that not interested in doing that plus don't want 1084 01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:56,360 kids so I have to like change two very fundamental things that's fine that's 1085 01:19:54,320 --> 01:20:00,159 fine it's it's part of role playing you know you got to be you want to be a good 1086 01:19:57,719 --> 01:20:06,320 partner here okay role playing partner huh if you have kids I guess the 1087 01:20:03,639 --> 01:20:09,320 conversation should have to happen 1088 01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,920 um but then you also have to worry about 1089 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:18,960 if that's going to completely fundamentally change your relationship with your partner and then creates a 1090 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:26,360 toxic environment for the kid it might actually be easier for you and the kid 1091 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:28,120 to split up I don't know as as a broken 1092 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:34,120 home Survivor um I can say that both of them 1093 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:39,480 have their own challenges 1094 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:42,080 um and the the the the toxic 1095 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:46,600 relationship between the parents can certainly continue just fine if they're 1096 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,679 not living in no I would fully expect it to continue but if you don't have to be 1097 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:54,880 in the house with them screaming and fighting every day yeah is that better 1098 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:58,080 because you you might grow up up and learn normaly you might think that this 1099 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:05,080 is how this is actually supposed to happen all that kind of stuff so we've 1100 01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:09,600 got 47% of you uh going with the eat 1101 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:12,040 turnips action plan uh with 34% of you 1102 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:18,679 playing it cool and hoping it goes away and a mere 19% of you going my route and 1103 01:21:15,719 --> 01:21:23,159 revealing it right away very interesting I mean this is this is all just sort of 1104 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:28,639 the interesting thing that I think here is the credit card valid cuz I would 1105 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,360 fully expect a ton of people to sign up 1106 01:21:28,639 --> 01:21:38,239 on this website with a fake name yep like everyone and if you didn't you're 1107 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:41,520 dumb yep but that's the up the hacker if 1108 01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:44,800 someone control FS for that credit card 1109 01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:48,120 number wow 1110 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:49,800 yep yikes I hope you changed your credit 1111 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:55,199 card or you're I hope you're doing it now I don't know my life is easy I don't 1112 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:59,880 even have the option to cheat on my wife you wouldn't have time yeah straight up 1113 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,280 wouldn't have time there's the time there's the fact that she manages my 1114 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:08,560 schedule down to the minute yeah there's that um she manages 1115 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:13,120 all the finances and credit cards anyway so she'd see that payment coming out she 1116 01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:18,120 be like wait what is this from and and then Google it and then figure it out 1117 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:19,920 it's not because of like of a suspicion 1118 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:24,800 on her part because she straight up knows where I am like she wouldn't even 1119 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:29,440 need a GPS tracker on my phone she knows exactly where I am any time of the day 1120 01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:35,080 because my life is just really busy I usually know where you are 1121 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:40,159 yeah I'm a creature of habit it's like it's Friday night uh 1122 01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:45,760 he's at badminton straight up it's any other 1123 01:22:42,679 --> 01:22:48,000 time he's at work or at home that's it 1124 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:52,320 um but uh but but like and it's not because she monitors the finances 1125 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:57,920 because she suspects anything she's good at it because she monitors the finances 1126 01:22:55,159 --> 01:23:02,120 because I am terrible at managing my finances and she's really good to be 1127 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:05,520 fair we have to we have to we can't just give you the terrible she's also very 1128 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:11,520 good at yeah and like she manages the finances not just of us personally but 1129 01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:13,760 also lonus Media Group so if an unknown 1130 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:18,480 charge shows up she's emailing me about it not because she thinks it's for you 1131 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:25,199 know some adult dating site but because she just wants to know what it is so she 1132 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:28,159 can reconcile the books so 1133 01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:31,239 so yeah oh my God that makes my life really easy would that be a fun Channel 1134 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:37,480 super fun prank oh yes L's left his wallet on his 1135 01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:42,000 desk she doesn't watch W show we should 1136 01:23:37,480 --> 01:23:42,000 do it oh my God I'm so 1137 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:54,920 down that would be hilarious that's so evil oh God we're 1138 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:56,800 kind of terrible people oh like in every 1139 01:23:54,920 --> 01:24:00,880 possible way we'd have to capture the reaction though how do you do that I I 1140 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:05,639 think we could do it I think we've got enough clever camera people that we 1141 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:11,120 could count on them to uh yeah that could be pretty fun just as 1142 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:16,000 long as you're the one that scrubs the footage scrubs the footage yeah oh yeah 1143 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:20,719 like I go through through the reaction yeah well you know what no I I I I know 1144 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:26,320 her pretty well like I think that you know I think that it would be oh gee I 1145 01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:26,320 don't know 1146 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:33,400 yeah let's give it a definite maybe okay 1147 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:39,400 I started to think about the downsides now all right yeah okay um wow we 1148 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:44,400 actually had a lot of like pretty good topics this week partially done I think 1149 01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:48,239 we can do a lot of these yeah well it's 6 o'clock already and I've got some 1150 01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:52,639 stuff to do after work today so um okay then Apple stops beta testers from 1151 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:56,719 reviewing apps that's a really good thing because if your beta testing a new 1152 01:24:54,800 --> 01:25:01,400 version of iOS you shouldn't be like leaving reviews on apps about how they 1153 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:05,520 crash and are terrible yep um I'm super not against that 1154 01:25:07,719 --> 01:25:12,480 um oh there's some interesting you know what some of the stuff we might just 1155 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:17,119 have to tackle next week cuz uh YouTube's apparently going to remove free videos If creators don't publish 1156 01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:20,679 them to the subscription based platform too uh so there's some actually really 1157 01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:25,199 good stuff in here but I think we're done for today thank you guys for tuning 1158 01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:29,400 in to the WAN Show I AP olizee if things got a little bit heavier and less 1159 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:32,280 light-hearted than they normally do with the whole Ashley Madison hack thing if 1160 01:25:31,119 --> 01:25:39,239 you're if you're married and you have an Ashley Madison account sorry bro or 1161 01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:42,000 broette good luck Buddy Guy what's the 1162 01:25:39,239 --> 01:25:42,000 female version of 1163 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:47,080 bro it's not sis I don't know yeah I 1164 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:54,639 don't know must be broette I just say bro but 1165 01:25:51,239 --> 01:25:56,320 is that is that me being a jerk I like 1166 01:25:54,639 --> 01:26:01,560 if I'm I don't care if I'm talking to a man or a woman I'll just be like yeah no 1167 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:05,159 problem man like I it's not and guys 1168 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:07,000 yeah yeah I mean who's ever actually us 1169 01:26:05,159 --> 01:26:12,080 I actually sound I feel like I sound sleazy when I say like 1170 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,719 ladies ladies like right like I I feel 1171 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:17,880 like I'm like trying to project or come on to them so I just say guys and then 1172 01:26:15,639 --> 01:26:22,480 it seems fine ladies and you can't say women because that has the whole like 1173 01:26:20,440 --> 01:26:27,040 right there's negative connotations to all of them yeah cuz like woman 1174 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:31,280 someone tell me how to navigate life please yeah really it would make my my 1175 01:26:29,159 --> 01:26:35,040 life easier I need a GPS in my car for navigating 1176 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:42,920 life hack your life all right see you guys again next 1177 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:42,920 week same bat Time same bat Channel 1178 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,800 and 1179 01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:14,760 mention it's was like