well i mean make sure you like oh we're live by the way but i'm going to try
yeah make sure you don't be an idiot it'll probably be more interesting to work
just being honest maybe i can try to recruit people while
i'm there i'll just like get a sign sit on the side of the road be like need
developers please help
if if you know javascript
it's specifically angular
oh welcome to the wand show you guys
before the show and then we usually try to do lunch once a week but we missed
last week and i think we missed the week before yeah this is the only time luke
and i talk to each other
so like yeah you'll have to forgive us
honestly it doesn't account for all of it part of it is that i was reviewing a
script with taryn before this and i was doing that late because i was building a
machine with one of our rog rig reboot winners right before that pretty banging
machine did you see it looks really nice i didn't like really inspect it but it
looks really nice 7700k 32 gigs RAM RGB
up the butt um 1080 ti strix
165 hertz monitor basically as good as i would ever
recommend awesome like anything beyond that you're like kind of dumb like for
gaming really really intense diminishing returns yeah yeah or or you do literally
worse yeah unless you do something else yeah um
so so yeah we were just chatting about Floatplane luke is leaving the country
yup not permanently no one here will notice
yeah well they'll
what will they notice they'll notice your car not in the
parking lot ah yes maybe yeah that's about it yeah now that you have that
like hidden away the furthest away from any entrance office as far as i know
um like the most awkward you would only go there if you were going to my office
possible location and then i entered not
from the main entrance now and my really right well i enter from that side and
then i just do like a really quick loop yep go up here basically your private
stairwell
dennis was dennis just mentioned before the show that he's seen me like 10 times
this year dennis i think i'm less in focus now
i think so we have a we have a mom so while well you're getting that in focus
yeah hi mom oh
i'm good i miss you i miss you too this is
probably the point where she mentions that i also don't see my mom i'm not sending him anywhere unsafe it's okay
oh i don't know if she knows that i'm going out of the country
all right i was just checking just checking
it's not like somalia no it's fine yeah
so you are sending him somewhere well i'm sending myself yeah yeah
like he's the ceo of that company and he made an executive decision that he
needed to have a meeting out of the country and informed me that he was
going yeah it sounds very much to me like Linus is
working super super hard to
direct me in a different direction away from himself and that something is going
on that i should be very concerned about
that's pretty conspiracy theory i'm just gonna put that out there
no this is completely my idea i'm going to sweden so like
it's not like i don't want to go there um and i'm visiting a guy that i've
known for a long time and we're going to work on some floor plan stuff
okay all right all right i can live with that i can live with that however
luke sometimes you forget the cardinal rule that is you do not leave the
country without telling your mother right i did sort of forget that part i'm
also leaving tomorrow and i haven't booked my ticket yet
what it's fine there's available
he's getting mothered on both sides right now by the way just so you know
i'm with you on this awesome that's great thank you Linus
it'll work uh it'll be fine yeah yeah
yeah sure i have a place to stay
that i can't really detail but i do have a place to stay this time i have traveled without a place to stay before
this is an improvement yeah i think i don't want to know
anymore all right well thank you for calling in
it's always a pleasure all right always a pleasure Linus bye okay bye
love you too bye all right so we've got a great show for
you guys today Intel's 18 core high-end desktop die
has been pictured the iphone 8
is rumored to cost more due to samsung's
control of OLED display supply
apparently we're putting a headphone jack back into the iphone 7. well we're
not but sometimes oh this is the same guy i believe
that like built his own iphone out of a whole bunch of little components do you
hear about that okay i believe this is the same guy so he went to china and
went to like the little shops that had little like individual iphone components
and he built his whole own one that like works and stuff and like the touch id
and everything functions really it's pretty cool it's it's took him months
but then he was like traveling in and out because he was like working there and doing all this kind of stuff and
he's doing it just like over time on the side it's a really cool video series
it's quite a long video but it's really interesting i believe this is the same
guy but i'm not 100 certain and then AMD vega 11 enters production
oh oh i'm going to use the stream deck stream deck
didn't work what really
i tested this last didn't work again are you wait wait wait wait i love it are
you using the uh are you using the i'm not using anything uh hold on hold on
are you using xsplit blog broadcaster ptr
i don't think so i didn't launch this oh we have to use the public test release
if we want to oh that's fine yeah i didn't launch this it was already set up
when i got here hashtag yeah yeah okay so just to talk about oh
no we're playing the intro yeah look
those are there's only two views
i didn't put on the shirt before the show i'm gonna have to change into it
and risk a nip slip oh my dang it i'll i'll body block you
twitch's terms of service are going to be the end of me yep
all right damn nipple equality
uh oh oh wait hold on yeah and we're
back oh man
i am excited for today's show for one
reason and that is that i didn't do the okay so i think i figured it out it's
when we put the computer to sleep and wake it back up with xsplit still
running that the uh the capture cards
oh don't die so i have solved the mystery
okay the camera just no no that's fine it's fine it'll come back that one's
already working though hold on just give it a sec it's all good everything's you
can tell which one the camera one is by the way it is everything's amazing oh
yeah i guess i could have done that um okay so our first topic was posted by the
benjamins on the forum and the original article here is from hexis.net
famous overclocker der bauer you know what i think derbauer does so well even
though professional overclockers uh generally are like
really well known within the professional overclocking community so
basically like it's a big circle circle congratulations um
circle congratulations
i think the reason that he has kind of broken out into the mainstream is the
guy's got a personality he does i've met him he's cool yeah well i haven't met
him but i like his videos yeah like he's actually super cool i ran into him at um
computex and he's roasted us before and i still like his videos really i didn't
know he roasted like youtube tech reviewers
i was like all right all right roman let's talk
am i included with youtube tech reviewers
you might be i don't review anything anymore oh i mean if you think about it
i mean there's still like graphs and opinions in our videos
that's okay i'm over it okay so right here
uh on the left is the 7900x
so this is the 10 core uh core i9 and on the right
is the utterly massive
18 core die of the upcoming
79 20 x
so there's a couple of takeaways here number one is that in case you were
wondering 18 cores means a bigger die
than 10 cores which will hopefully have at least
some positive effect on our ability to cool this bloody thing because we
actually have a video coming on de-litting
Intel processors uh that's coming really soon we do the mainstream and the
high-end nice so we uh we strip down a 7900x because we can almost did it for
nope can't talk about it
i don't even know about this but didn't
oh yeah wait what never mind oh move on
continue okay um
where was i going with this right so we know that it's bigger which will
hopefully help us move heat away from it because hopefully
the the heat density won't be any higher so if we
just put a really powerful cooler on it that's got an enormous cooling plate
then maybe we'll be okay and it also tells us based on that
that's a shiny clean die that Intel is still using
an easy to clean thermal interface material rather than soldering the dye
so as some of you probably know AMD is
soldering the dies on their ryzen and Threadripper chips um i do still intend
to try to delete a threadripper it should theoretically be possible um
because did you see the vanity threadrippers that they provided to
youtubers and uh and influencers so
it's a threadripper chip with um your publication name oh that's lasered into
the top yeah so but it doesn't work well i want it to work so you're gonna
take that off and swap it with it that's cool so yeah that's going to be a video
project sometime in the next little bit okay what's the what's the theory
the theory hypothesis how are you going to go about this so i plan to do it the
same way that i did the qx 6700 way back
in the day okay so what i did was i
carefully and i'm gonna use the dead one to investigate how well it works because
what do i have to lose it's a good one yeah um so i'll i'll cut the seal all
around it and so you just have to be really careful that you didn't go too
deep with the razor blade so you don't cut off a resistor or something yeah
then what i did was i just put some thermal paste on it
put it onto a pot and then put the pot on a hot element on
the stove okay that way as soon as the solder
gets hot enough it'll release
and you can just pop it off and get it away from the hot element so that way
you don't heat it up any more than you have to and also you don't heat up any
part of the chip that you don't have to any more than you have to that makes
sense because i was thinking you're going to have to heat it in some way and i was worried that you'd fry it that way
yeah so the qx 6700 that i did back in the day did survive and then the way
that i got the solder off was actually just with a plastic scraping tool um and
a lot of patience so that's that's my plan and we'll see if it works
maybe twitch chat is telling me about how it's not going to work
um in the dashboard it's just full of people getting timeouts so maybe i'll
have to go to the public view to see the to see the actual twitch chat yeah
hopefully i can hit the pause button before we get an echo apparently people
are pretty uh pretty roasted about how out of focus we are right now
um i don't know oh damn oh damn Colton's
gonna have camera people come in and try and do it twice oh you look out of focus
i don't know about myself i just look shiny we're both the same okay tell you
what tell you what just for you guys we're gonna pause the
show we're gonna okay Colton Colton um
the the the wheel on the front what do you do i love the lens it looks like
Linus is wearing green lipsticks okay let's take a picture let's do it let's do it okay okay
no worse ask ave i'd love to uh we tried
to contact him okay other way he was like
other way that looks good no not quite no too far
that oh a little bit yeah that's that looks good yeah i mean we're like right
up against this now anyways it's actually still yeah it's really soft
yeah i don't even i don't even get this like where are we in focus i think it's
like way up here okay you got to come further back this way come on back
yeah it's like here my hand is nice and in focus oh too far
what well that's not that's not that better that's a lot let's go with that
let's go with that all right all right uh okay cool so what else do we know
depth of field and focus on different things what i was saying was we could get one
with a wider one so that it seems like we're more in focus more often because
the focus is a constant problem yep so we could we could turn less apertures
and then deeper depth yeah of focus field okay
um the iphone 8 will apparently cost more
because samsung is controlling OLED
supply also there will apparently
be no touch id due to 3d touch so this
was posted by red round two on the forum and the original article here is from
nine to five mac what i want to know nine to five mac is
why you guys aren't willing to put in the extra hours
typical employer question look at these guys they even want to be
paid for their lunch they only work eight actual hours so they probably take
a half hour lunch they probably take two 15-minute smoke breaks
come on you guys smoking you're disappointed you're
disappointing me here you're disappointing me here okay um
so let's go ahead and run through run through what we got here
so it's the new iphone's display is expected to include a flexible OLED
panel an OLED touch panel a 3d touch mono module and an OLED panel module but
samsung will be responsible for providing each OLED part with the only
exception in the stack being the 3d touch module so normally
apple will leverage multiple suppliers
this helps keep costs low and they've even gone as far as to use both tsmc and
global foundries to oh wait is it tsmc in global foundries or was it uh were
they using samsung as a fab they've used multiple fabs for their
actual like compute chips sorry it's tsmc and samsung a lot less common uh
have they ever made a chip in global foundries
no makes last minute decision to use tsmc for thirty percent of a9 chip
uh facing poor yield rates from chip maker global foundries the solidifieds
chained etc uh samsung global foundries to produce 14. okay so it looks like
whatever the point is they've gone as far as to dual source even the cpus
in their phones which is pretty ballsy not that many people do that which is
super ballsy because even if you make the same CPU
at the same process node samsung's intels global foundries tsmcs all of
their technology even on the same node is going to be slightly different with
different characteristics so one might consume more power one might clock a
little higher one might do both one might do neither you never
actually know until you've actually got silicon
in hand what some of the quirks of a
manufacturing process will be so in this case
they are not able to take advantage of an additional supplier and it looks like
oh sorry it looks like the OLED unit is estimated to cost 120 to 130 dollars per
screen versus the 45 to 55 per unit cost
of lcd panels
do you think anyone's going to care do you think anyone that buys iphones
consistently and has been for a while is gonna care it's a hundred dollars more
yeah um you know let me think for a second
because okay someone will care how much of an
impact do you think it'll make with the amount of whinging that i've seen over
the galaxy note 8's price which is actually about a hundred
dollars more than an s8 plus
um and for your dollars you get a stylus
um i okay my point here though is that it's
apple customers instead of samsung customers
that's fair but i would argue that a note customer
is pretty close to an apple customer pretty close to an apple customer
because i think the note customer is locked into
into a way of using the device that goes
beyond Android right because there's a feature that is
literally not on something else yeah that they
value yeah and so you know i i don't think for a hundred
dollars that it's that big of a deal but there were a
lot of people who were pretty butthurt now um oh actually i wanted to address
another quick thing about the note 8 video uh some people were upset that i
was um that i was freaking out about the 200 milliamp hour smaller battery on the
note 8 versus the s8 plus saying that the note 8 gets better
battery life than the s8 plus uh to that i would say yeah that may be sure that
may be true for now but you also have to remember that the note 8 also has
i can't remember they don't call it touchwiz anymore but whatever samsung's
ui is yeah the note8 also has
touchwiz features that the s8 plus doesn't have
because it gets a new version of the software the fact that they're running
the same CPU with
actually i believe the note 8 has more RAM depending on the uh the storage
version of the s8 plus right don't quote me on that one but but basically there's
nothing about the s8 plus that consumes more power than the note 8
has a smaller display marginally so
there will be a difference even if there isn't today
even if at launch samsung is positioning
the note 8 as having better battery life all capital letters quoting you on that
one that's okay you go ahead
get ready for the rage Linus is this panel cracked
what the crap just happened
i think my screen is scratched that sucks
i really like this laptop
like it just looks like a little hair on there but it's not
well that really sucks okay show us it's not going to show up
in camera very well so back back to your question do i think that the hundred
dollar so i wouldn't have okay unless you had seen that except
that people were so upset about the extra hundred dollars for the no date
that's fair i think i don't think it's gonna affect a lot of purchasing
decisions but it might hurt some fanboy
mentality i don't know
the apple fan behaves a little differently they do than the typical fan
like they they tend to defend apple's need to make a profit on their devices
um they tend to defend the sort of disparity between apple
and their pricing you're totally right and i don't think
it's completely changed but it's been changing a little bit i don't i don't feel like people would just auto buy
everything from them anymore um and we saw that with the watch
the apple watch didn't actually sell that well watches in general didn't
actually sell that well yeah smart watches seem to be tablets are going
pretty quiet yep i no one cares about a new ipad anymore which is why apple did
that commodity basically like education edition ipad
um honestly
okay i think the hundred dollars would be pretty easy to swallow if apple was
bringing something game changing to the table and i think that's where samsung
ran into trouble a little bit because my biggest issue with the note 8 wasn't
that it's not a great phone it's a great phone does everything
my issue with the note8 was that it was really safe
you basically made a note 7 with a smaller battery
and like what did they add again oh man
right dual camera i'm not super surprised the dual cameras
really not that impressive so so that was where we ran into trouble the big
highlight feature the dual camera didn't blow my mind and so it's an extra
100 bucks for someone who's not a heavy stylus user but i i don't really care
whereas here if the iphone 8 has this like basically
floor-to-ceiling wall-to-wall display surface
and people are really into that then an extra hundred dollars might not be a big
deal but kind of a a killer for me on it is this
is how i take out my iphone i i lift it up to my face like this and
touch id has unlocked the phone before
before i would ever get a chance to
align the phone with my eyes
and unlock it with my irises
well before that he just did both of those by the way the rumor
is that the iphone 8 or whatever they end up
calling it iphone edition um the rumor is that it will rely on facial
recognition and old school typed passwords instead of touch id because
their plan to embed a touch id sensor
under the display is rumored to be cancelled since OLED creates an
unfavorable scan through scenario for the fingerprint sensor
that's really disappointing which is sort of a bummer because apple's touch
recognition is awesome sorry that only didn't go
because i hadn't clicked it yet like it's so fast
i would really miss that um
you know and i would look at something like that and i would go
the decision between an iphone 6s
because your your form of power user is mostly speed am i correct yes i'm all
about like getting stuff done with my so you are absolutely a power user of your
phone but like i don't do much with not in terms of like gaming or like watching
really high quality video no speed yes i expect performance and
that's one thing that the iphone does really well but the thing is that the iphone 7 and
the 6s for that matter are both really fast and the weird thing that an iphone
8 with this gorgeous full coverage display
but lack of touch id um does for me is it creates this weird
segmentation in apple's product lineup like they tend to still support older
iphone models so i'm looking at it going okay so it's iphone 6s if you want a
headphone jack it's iphone 7 if you want
uh better battery life and better performance than the 6s
um but you don't care about the headphone jack and then it's the iphone
8 if you want this cool display experience but you're giving up both the
headphone jack and touch id and it costs more and it costs more
um and instead of it just being like an
unequivocally better experience as you move up the stacks there's trade-offs
you are actually making trade-offs as you go which is really i feel like that would
be unacceptable to steve jobs it's hard
let me try unless they like basically reinvented the wheel
then he'd be like no this is what the experience is now
and it would be a big deal did they ever take back a feature they're not running
a previous iphone put together pieces from other things and went look this is
better
still steal the wheel yeah they stole the wheel and then they put
other spokes on it and they're like heck yeah um
trendy ones yeah really trendy wheels really trendy spokes sorry the wheels
were made by someone else okay uh speaking of taking features off
the iphone and or putting them back on
this is a pretty cool video it's from strange parts guys only ever published
two videos ever uh one was the one luke
was talking about yeah so the first one is how i made my own iphone and it's
23.5 minutes long and then this one is bringing back the iphone headphone jack
and it's 33.5 minutes long and both of them are really interesting i haven't
fully watched the new one yet but the first one i have watched the entire thing um it's a great video he's only
released two videos like Linus just said his other ones from four months ago and
has nine million views his new ones from two days ago and already has 1.7 million
views all right that's awesome i dropped the link in the chat but uh i'm pretty
sure fair use allows us to show a little bit of his video for uh the sake of
illustrating that he made a video so basically he does a bunch of stuff to
the iphone 7 that he says he loves but it didn't have a headphone jack uh finds
some contacts basically does some pretty crazy diy shiz my friends
wow so basically he ripped off how the lightning adapter
works and then like
that's incredible it's wild like even the how i made my own iphone video is
absolutely wild like how he finds all the different things and how he talks
different people to get information um
to find out like oh i needed these little tiny like silver contact pads
that have to go in this one area that like aren't detailed anywhere but they
have to go there so that there's like spacing between whatever and like he
details all of his different talks with different people and he details
everything that he's doing and i don't know about this one but how i made my own iphone video went over as far as i
know months right he's like doing little pickup vlog things the whole time it's
really cool i haven't fully seen the new one yet i would highly suggest watching
both yeah go check it out you guys challenge strange parts
and we've got one more let's do one more topic before we jump into our sponsors
this is sources wccf tech so take it
with a grain of lucif to salt um
AMD vega 11 gpus
supposedly entering production with vega
20 rumored to be coming on seven
nanometer so the AMD rumor mill is going
strong vega 11 will supposedly be an actual
replacement for polaris 10
20 and the rx 580 and 570 graphics cards
it's rumored to feature hbm2 memory which
i would assume AMD has some compelling
reason for yeah um given that they're again this is a
rumor but given that they're rumored to be losing money on rx vega right now due
to the cost of hbm2 given that i would be floored if hbm2 is
cheaper than some GDDR variant
um and given that like even once
uh i believe it's sk hynix that they're waiting to come online so that pricing
will get more competitive and eve like why would a mid-range card
even need hbm2 memory like hbm2 is super
cool but gdr5 is a very solid
pretty damn well-performing implementation like why did i put it this way it's not very expensive if
gddr5 is good enough for the gtx 1080 ti
and your upcoming mid-range vega
is not faster than a 1080 ti
why do you need hbm2 i don't think it's
that big of like a buzzword i know and i think most people don't
know what it means like AMD every time i talk to them
they are just like they can't wait
to like unzip and like show me their hbm2
and be like we are bringing hbm2 to consumers and i'm sitting here going
so what consumers don't
care what memory is under the hood i just
want to know how fast it is in whatever game yeah there are a few that do sure
but they care about the 0 to 60
of the vehicle and like if it has someone in the chat stuff no idea what
hbm2 is well yeah you're watching it's a next
generation graphics we've made videos memory
um i'm not insulting you i'm just saying like this is a thing the only thing i
can think of is if they think that it's going to reduce the complexity and
therefore the cost of the of the graphics card pcb to such an extent that
it will offset the additional cost of the memory or
if they basically the other thing that i can think of is that they just locked
themselves into this you know 18 months ago when development
started and there's no going back now um without significant r d to to backtrack
on the decision and they're just kind of boned because hbm2 costs didn't fall the
way that they were hoping actually you know what that's probably it
okay in other news
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it feels like AMD's in sort of
they're basically letting us know that there will definitely be news for wan
show about AMD all the way through the end of this year and into the next year
thank you i appreciate that thank you AMD
we appreciate the steady stream of leaks
um it's it's appreciated we gotta talk about something yeah so it might as well
be it might as well be products that that AMD hasn't made yet but but but
they're going to yeah and it's to be really good
i mean honestly i don't know how much of what leaks out of AMD is unintentional
and how much of it is like oh rx vega is sort of not that exciting um
especially because GPU pricing is screwed right now
um um but we need headlines
um hey what are you working on
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what's on your screen okay cool cool man yeah don't worry
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oh okay fine hit me again we got we got we got
another seal we need seal team luke wow get it it's awesome it's funny
because seal it's so bad that it just like pulled it
off wow you're i assumed you had a knife you
were just gonna have a key in it yeah there you go thank you it should work
now yeah you're janky but
all right so what do we got in here it's got uh microfiber
okay first of all it is like pretty darn it's secured in the packaging like a toy
it's not it's not gonna be it's probably it's very unlikely that it will be broke
in the box yes it is like because it's gonna stay exactly where it is it is
seat belted af in there oh yeah so at
least it's got that you know what it it it might not even you know work but it's
gonna look amazing no dents no scratches
it'll probably work i'm just kidding it'll probably work it's a pretty damn good chance that it'll work
yeah of course there should bring us to their manufacturing okay i can't get this
plastic off i don't have a knife
fine i'm just gonna do the features okay
so they've got oh yeah they took it in there oh that's a cool place to stash
the uh the usb adapter sound card adapter thing this is a really good way
to do usb headsets i was actually super
mad at some of the earlier Corsair headsets that just had the usb connector
right on the cable yeah because this is so much more versatile so it comes with
a dolby headphone certified usb sound card that way you could carry this in
your bag you could keep it somewhere safe just in case it like came unplugged
and fell off or whatever so it's easier to cart around and it's really flexible
like let's say Corsair came up with a new headset and you wanted to get
something newer and shinier um but maybe it didn't come with a dongle for
whatever reason you could continue to carry this forward which i really like
it's got microfiber ear cups millimeter neodymium speaker drivers
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yeah oh that was stressful that was a little
i was worried we were going to get banned from twitch man yeah me too
um Intel has discontinued the core i7 6700k and 6600k yeah we'll do that i
guess uh this was posted by zenos tech on the forum and the original article is
from the tech report i mean there's no real surprises here the the rumors are
that coffee lake is coming very soon
Intel rarely keeps a last generation product alive for long after they launch
a new one um especially because
they don't generally drop the price of the last generation because it's not
really any cheaper to make or it's not so much that it's as as it is that the
new one isn't really any more expensive to make so they're just like well you might as well
buy the new one i guess um i mean
it's not 7700's really break so if you still want one i'm sure you can buy one
and the 7700k even works in the same boards so it's like
there's like really not much of a reason to run out and buy these unless you get
one on promo or something but that tends to be pretty rare just because of the
way that Intel manages their supply chain really well like speaking as
someone who came from the channel um
it tends to be that just kind of they must just have very predictable
sales because as the new one is coming the old one just like kind of
trickles off in terms of supply and then by the time
they're gone they kind of were are selling slower anyway and you're ready
to transition into the new one and there's never really a gap right it's
it's actually kind of magical how well people think Intel
i don't think anyone thinks Intel's a marketing company but people think Intel
is an engineering company and they are but what they also are is a supply chain
they've talked about it before they're really good yeah at supply chain yeah um
so they'll be taking orders of these chips through march 30th of 2018 and
shipping them through to september of 2018. um but i mean the reason that they want
to get rid of them is that they would be taking up fab space that could be used
for other 14 nanometer products so
yeah whatever rumor
google preparing to buy htc's phone
division so this is posted by daring on the forum and i like that name for this
news because that would be pretty daring htc
and google support supposedly in final
stage of negotiation regarding sale of smartphone
business i mean i see this being
okay so there's a couple things here i see this being
good news for htc in that it gives them an exit strategy and bad news for htc in
that what do you do any relevance that they could have
possibly hoped to have um i mean i don't know if the company is
going to survive on vive but maybe they keep a very small
vr team that vrs or and i think they do
like they obviously do some oem production because they did produce the
pixel um they were the only they were the only
Android maker with little enough self-respect that they were willing to
let google get away with not putting their brand on the pixel so like
i mean it's been a bad time to be htc for the
last few years five is like vr has been doing a little bit better lately um
sales have kicked up because the discounts on the headsets and stuff yep
it's been happening there's some big games coming out actually i got to play
doom vr how was it at pax it was actually pretty good
i don't think i'd like it i bought arizona sunshine arizona sunshine and
it's like scary like i like get free okay yeah but
there's there's uh skyrim and fallout as well
i would probably still get scared fallouts may be a little scary like
either have some creepy stuff all right all right and then
the thing the thing is that like i usually play vr when i'm like
i just want to relax for a little bit like i just so what i usually play is
the longbow game in the lab yeah okay it's really fun yeah and it's
all cartoony and happy and like even when you lose it's like
we got your castle and like but there's balloons and stuff
you don't really care um and the other day i was playing the
survival mode of arizona sunshine and
i got to the level where they like start running at you
and i was like killing guys and there was a guy like me i was like
you're so big in here
um my dad played the fallout game
fallout vr and he was like looking at the dog and like kind of pretending to
pet it in vr stuff then a zombie comes up and like hits the dog and my dad like
launched backwards in real life um and like one of the demo ladies had
to like jump out of the way and he immediately goes to like commando
position like holding the gun goes like this because it's just a pistol and it
starts popping zombies i'm like wow
just like immediately burst into action because something hit his damn dog
it's like the fastest way to piss my dad off um and then so those three games are
coming all big from bethesda and then there's other vr games that are
continuing to come out from more vr focused developers
it's it's vr stuff isn't becoming more legitimate
especially with these big titles oh here you go
vr is uh has been spun off as a standalone subsidiary already anyway so
google's incentive here is that they want to produce hardware
routers phones whatever google is getting into consumer
electronics and htc has good
manufacturing facilities that was the m9 or m8
uh that was like the the one piece of aluminum the m7 was the first one that
really got everyone's attention and like made made htc relevant again yeah how
are short a period time they can do that stuff
um
but uh yeah so i see what's in it for google i
see what's in it for htc they had their worst month in the past 13 years
um in august revenue dropped by 51.5
compared to last month and 54.3 from last august
so like yeah i totally see this making sense and
google's probably the most sensible buyer that i can think of
pretty cool um
all right that's boring that's
um wow okay uh there is something important
to say about this oh okay just one really quick thing okay hold on we'll
bring it up then this was supposed to buy scratch cat on the forum the original articles from cbc
143 million u.s consumers may have been affected in a cyber attack
yeah so this is an equifax cyber attack thing i don't know enough about it we
often stay away from not always but we often stay away from
politically stuff especially american political stuff because we're not
fully up to spec on it because we're not americans
but i do want to put this out here it's been mentioned a few times i don't know
if it's true or not but do your own research to check if you've been affected
you have to click yes to an agreement and most people just fly through and
click yes to everything and the agreement is that you will not join a
class action lawsuit
so be careful i don't 100 know if that's true but i've seen it in a lot of places
and it seems to be true i would read it yourself um but basically the consensus
is right now if you've done anything with equifax assume that you're affected
don't do the check to see if you which is great because equifax is like
really big deal and like you can very very likely have your identity be stolen
um but yeah very careful that's who you go to when you're at risk of identity
theft which is great i don't even know yeah no it's like actually um apparently
some canadian and uk residents um an undisclosed number um
were also accessed so personal information for those guys yeah and i
don't i don't know how well that thing that you're agreeing to is going to actually hold up i suspect not at all i
hold up i i yeah i agree but just be careful when you're clicking all this
kind of stuff and just kind of assume if you've dealt with them that you're probably screwed um
yeah that's all i have to say about that one
okay wow
um um
oh whatsapp is finally monetizing oh my interesting so this was originally
posted by techcrunch whoops
whatsapp's first ads appear on facebook
and start conversations with businesses
so they announced their plan to eventually charge businesses stirring
worries that businesses might be able to cold message users with sponsored
message ads i want to drop this in here apparently a new york attorney general
is already totally crapping on that agreement
okay so like it probably not a big deal just just be aware of what's going on if
you're affected by that so now code in facebook's ad manager has been
found that lets businesses buy ads with a send a whatsapp message button built
in for now whatsapp isn't selling ads on its own but testing a whatsapp chat
button on facebook ads that directly opens a conversation with a business in
whatsapp businesses will only be able to contact whatsapp users that have agreed to the
message or have agreed to be messaged by initiating the conversation and
sponsored messages will work the same way on facebook messenger so businesses
can pay to reconnect with people they're already chatting with
whatsapp initially promised not to show ads when it was acquired by facebook for
19 billion in 2014 but i mean i don't know exactly what we said
about it at the time but i'm pretty sure we probably called um the bs on that
yeah a retailer apparently confirms this was
posted by lobster zoidberg on the forum
an october 5th date for six core
coffee lake processors
this is a german site and what we're looking at here is the core i7 8700 k
and 8700 both with six cores 12 threads and 12 megs of level three cash
wow single core and multi-core boost of 4.7 and 4.3 gigahertz respectively in a
TDP of 95 watts
looking pretty good looking pretty sexy
i'm pretty stoked um i i've been pretty
clear that i'm super down for coffee lake uh six core mainstream basically
gives most people no reason to blow a bunch of money on x299 or x399
so super awesome
um and that's pretty much it
oh oh organization vlog three trailer oh damn
it is on facebook now apparently so we can show it nice yup we're gonna have to
do the janky stupid audio sharing thing actually do we hold on hold on hold on
maybe there's a better way
you don't have to do the doppler effect when you're literally walking away from the mic um like you don't have to mimic
it cause like it's actually happening um
um uh i i don't i don't know what to tell you i don't see it
hold on maybe there's a better way
oh there it is oh this is exciting i haven't seen this
got this we got this okay one hour ago now hold on hold on i gotta i gotta set
up okay i think okay so i apologize in advance if i am
wrecking your guys you guys ears
um are people complaining about the sound
already okay i don't know if this is going to work
um hold on let me try playing this
okay it's working but it looks like it's pretty quiet on the levels
so i'm going to turn it up a bit and i'm gonna hope for the best
okay here we go uh continue click to enter full screen
so this is up on Floatplane already
and hopefully this is going to work way to go facebook video
thank you for everything about what you are giving me promotions for faux plain
oh get it what is going on here
click for more how about a just work option what if i click on how about you
work that would be great now
really okay let's just let's just reload this
it's awesome why
why you no work well while we get this trailer spun up if you go and look on
Floatplane you can just watch the whole thing right now so if you're a
Floatplane subscriber uh instead of just watching the trailer
on wancho through Linus's laptop which is failing to load because facebook you
can just go watch it on the forum
actually we need to unlock the phone first thanks bixby
actually
i i don't even like like is twitch explaining to me how this works
uh no in some way i wonder if it's this
sound device that's glitching it out
what what even what even just
see this this is what i have to deal with around here oh
okay so it's supposedly working now i wonder if it hates my
the scarlet as a sound output that would be weird my entire life is okay no it
seems like it's working now okay what the
crap all right so let's do it let's do it
moving boxes from one shelf to the other and then back to the other shelf i can't
hear it also the quality looks like crap you want better quality messier than it
was before well you know what i don't know 270p
that's a bit better go away yeah it's not great what hey you guys thought
about forming a union because
you know what i'll burn your house down residents in a surrey complex started
running down the hallways
oh that's exciting oh man the staff unionizes
or so they think
i do not ex oh nips there were knits yeah there were
oh okay um apparently sound it wasn't the intent
of the content yeah that actually helps you on twitter
does it you can have like full nudity if it's not the intent of the content
really like if you play conan exiles there's people running around
dicks out boobs out whatever right it's not the intent of the game
it's not the intent of the game to have dicks and boobs out i mean like there's
a there's a main objective that isn't that i think i think that's more what's
going on god got it makes sense okay
well like i want to watch it now and i couldn't hear that so we're gonna play
it again we're totally going to play it again nice hold on to the other and then
back to the other shot
well you know what i don't know
go away
all right did you link the chat to uh Floatplane already i didn't okay well
you probably should we've got we've got a lot of great stuff over on Floatplane
right now um what do we have we archived the daily
live streams over there i'm just gonna screen share with you guys
um we've got the bean bag chair long jump which is
like um
it's not actually the best moment but it's a pretty epic moment
doesn't cost anything hold on where is
it for some reason it wasn't the intro i
thought it was an awesome intro where is it
hold on it's like it's like way in the video for some reason am i sweaty
here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go here we go
something it's gonna be great so uh yeah that's pretty much it you know
almost a collision
that was a thing oh my goodness super scary neither james nor i saw each
other coming um yeah uh so we've got an episode
comparing a 60 dollar CPU to a 600 CPU
and the the comparison is is less stupid than you would probably think
uh we've got a Techquickie avoiding common pc building traps episode four
uh we've got three reasons not to buy this 400 laptop
dell is not gonna be stoked on that one oh
that's that's fun i'm excited for that uh we've got the
1920x1080 meme pc oh we built it
oh that's funny we did we oh we definitely did it the 1920x1080
try and figure out what hardware there's in that's in there baby can i give them
a hint um true it came from a reddit
thread from a like a while ago yeah someone tagged me in it and they were
like if anyone's gonna do it it's you guys and i forward it to Linus and was
like a decent idea kind of a dumb idea but
but but it's also us let's do it it's
our kind of dumb idea um this actually ended up being a far
more informative video than you'd probably think um
LTT macbook pro stands okay uh most of them suck so we figured out which ones
suck and which ones are actually decent which is good because even if you don't
have a macbook pro you can use them for other laptops you can use them for any laptop yep um organization vlog day
three the finale is up
and uh what else we got yeah i think that's uh i think that's
pretty much it yeah there might be uh there might be like one more on here because we uh we've released note 8
simultaneously so there's probably something here that i'm not seeing but
uh yeah that's pretty much it
so thank you guys for tuning in to the wan
show we've got a great show for you next week same bat time same bat channel i'm
tired i'm like actually tired you know this
week has been more frustrating than usual
so i i had the whole thing where i
unwisely i admit decided to put not
clickbait in a title on one of our videos yeah
it wasn't clickbait i i don't think people hate that but
people hate that and they that's like
some poller stuff right there they got some they got they got consumed by the
hating that and sort of completely ignored the videos
missed the satire and missed that it was not clickbait
um and then and then there was like like after that
there were people talking about how click bait the title of the next day's
video this hyperloop pod has real hover engines there's not clickbait at all
because it's a hyperloop pod and it has hover engines and they're real
and then there were all the people kind of missing the point of the hyperloop video basically people were mad because
hyperloops are not practical and they sort of missed the part where
it's an engineering competition and this
isn't like a government installing a nationwide train system
this is so i haven't read the comments but like let's just address that for a moment
like if this is the us government trying to install train systems across the
entire country and forcing you to ride them and forcing you to ride them and
pay for them and pay for them then you can like debate about how practical they
are this was an engineering competition and it was privately hosted
and so why the hell do you care and i mean you can if you really really
want to get pedantic about it you can talk about how elon musk has gotten a
lot of government funding um yeah because he's done a lot of
awesome stuff um and etc etc but basically that was
really frustrating there's been a lot of hate on the Techquickie intro someone
in some of the chat said luke's disappointed in us i i kind of am i come
from a sciencey background and you have to try things
you constantly have to try things and if you look at like
the different technologies that have come out of nasa research for instance a
lot of times it's you try something and you go like okay well maybe our
actual main goal wasn't
it wasn't realized but through messing with these magnets
and trying to cool down stuff that doesn't have air
flowing by it and trying to
elevate really really heavy objects and move them really really quick on magnets
we learned weird things about i don't know i'm going to pull a bunch of stuff
off my butt superconductors or or
cooling things without air and like all this other kind of stuff that becomes
helpful in other areas doing things because of learning is a
very good thing so shush so i thought it was a really cool piece and basically
people kind of crapped on it and i was just like well i feel like some of it
was just that there's some negative sentiment
out there and i think people were kind of finding something to get upset about that makes sense um i also think that
there's a lot of um
i think that a lot of people feel felt like they were being sold something
even though they weren't they were like this isn't gonna like
okay so a lot of people drew parallels between the hyperloop and like the
hyperloop competition video we made and something like the solar freaking
roadways video but the the the difference is that
nobody is asking for your money so that that's one huge difference and
was that not spend anything so they're like debunked
debunked and it's like debunked and look in in a
tone that was like don't buy this it's been debunked but no one's asking you to
buy anything it's just it's just it's a science competition so
i feel like people were people had sort of uh like a personal investment in
you know trying to save other people from this thing that's really bad
when actually nobody is
no but then they're like yeah and the hype like this one comment was particularly ignorant and they're
building it in california in one of the most earthquake prone areas in the world
nobody is building it anywhere because it isn't a thing
it's an engineering competition right now so that we can like learn some stuff
and weren't they just okay i don't know but weren't they just making the sled
um yeah they were just making pods yeah and then they had a one mile test track
that some teams got to go down as fast as they could yeah
anyways so that's where we're at um
and then the note 8 video had an error in it okay
and we had to pull it down even if it was debunked i don't know but even if or
if part of it was debunked whatever that's the point of science
like parts of it are thoroughly debunked great but
no one is trying to build that like there's a a lot of us i talked about
this a little bit last night but um it seems like the people crying debunked
are assuming that all of the scientists and engineers at spacex and
all these universities haven't taken a grade 11 physics course
like like they're not aware that sudden decompression due to like a bullet hole
in the hyperloop tube would be bad
and my biggest thing is like trying things
and failing and then trying again and with
with knowing how and why you failed and growing from there is like literally the
whole point and retesting things and other people challenging your claims and
all that kind of stuff is how science worked so debunked
is completely unhelpful yeah going oh look i uh theorized these things and i
think you're wrong because of this data and i think this is interesting because whatever great
at risk of getting a little offensive here i feel like a lot of it is the
science as a religion crowd where they just kind of go you know
it's it's about it becomes like a fanboy mentality like i like i'm
i gotta i gotta like defend this because because science said it um
and sometimes i feel like that gets
that energy in the wrong direction most people
think they really like science and it's really that they just really don't like
other things and they forget that the scientific method is rather important
i'm going to address one comment here really quick yeah uh ecu underscore 55
said we just want rev in all capital letters mind you we just want reviews dr
dot people are tired of clickbait none of these things have been clickbait
you're just tired of content that you don't want um there's a difference what
should i review yeah what's what's happening in the
computer world right now that has you uh raring to go you've got a review of
everything that mattered in the last i don't know we've got a review of the
note eight we've got a review of
all three variants of ryzen top four including Threadripper uh we've got a
review of scientology is not science as a religion oh my god sorry wow
that's a completely indifferent so science as a religion is taking a
faith-based approach to science yeah and basically treating
something sciency that somebody told you as fact without worrying much about the
method by which we arrived there when like what science
is built on is questioning things and trying things
and looking more deeply into stuff um
that's what we mean by that it has nothing at all to do with scientology
scientology is a cult um
boom i support that
uh what what what was i talking about before that though it seemed important
sorry i don't remember
right yeah what are we supposed to review yeah yeah yeah are we supposed to
review like yet another motherboard we jumped on everything that's come out
lately super hard i mean i i know there's people out there that really do
want us to review a motherboard but what exactly would you expect us to say about
it it's pretty good man seems okay it's got two RGB headers
like it's where all the fan spots are it's unboxings at that point yeah and
like there honestly i have a motherboard review coming sometime in the next few
weeks um it'll be asrock's x299 mini itx board
because that is freaking cool
but the the way to
sorry someone in the chat it's a blue
except when uh i change it to red
yeah um
so that one's freaking cool and whenever
something freaking cool shows up
i'm amped i'm going to jump on it another motherboard video that i'm going
to have coming hopefully in the next little bit is a seuss release to board
with 19 pci express slots dude that's crazy yeah
that's cool that's different and that's something like
even then it's not an unboxing because we're just gonna have to find some weird
way to do something with it yeah well it's some kind of mining application or something we'll hook 19 gpus up to it
and go to town um but that's something interesting enough to do something with
but that's the thing is you guys gotta understand i can't
make a video that bores me what is the point are you gonna like it if i say the
same thing that i that i'm always saying
what's what are the features of this motherboard what are the features of a
motherboard it fits the other stuff that
you can buy and connects it all
also it's got a great audio codec which is important
and RGB lighting which you may or may not think is important
um but like a lot a huge amount of motherboard stuff
you could find way more efficiently and in a better format by just looking at
the spec sheet on the website i mean it's tough too because even a lot of uh
like non-it stuff like phone stuff pretty consolidated
like with manufacturers like htc
um nokia released a thing that people seem to care about lg's v30 people seem
to kind of care about but even like pixel 2 there's basically no hype
like we're pretty much down to a half a dozen phone releases a year that anyone
really cares about server stuff no no
say what
it's got more cores than last year which is good which is cool and if we
find a cool application for it okay again i do have a plan with some of the
the more recent server stuff um i want to do something with AMD epic where we
do a half a dozen video editing workstations running off of a single
tower i think that would be super cool
there was a guy by the way at pax byoc yeah i didn't ever ever get to meet him
but there's a guy there that's a fan of Linus tech tips yeah and had one i
didn't notice it when i when i walked past i was like that's a very interesting computer and like kind of
looked at it a little bit but then just kept walking by didn't realize it was
two setups in one tower nice it was an unread build it was a beautiful black
and green which is not that common so i love seeing them at lands black and
green beautiful looking unrate build with his system on one side of the table
and someone else is on the other side of the table nice it was really cool
and i yeah i wish i actually got to talk to him but um so yeah if we can find an
application for it like i guarantee you something we're to do with the upcoming
Intel higher core count high-end desktop parts
expect to see an unraid build where we do a streaming
machine and the gaming machine that goes with it
two discrete discrete function machines in a single
tower fire truck builds all right so thanks for watching rancho
we'll see you again next week same bat time same bat channel
like do more old stuff like ah okay so the problem with old stuff is
there's a finite amount of it yeah
inherently there is a finite there is there will be more coming yeah yeah
there's more old stuff coming in for at the very least one more yeah
and that'll be good yeah all right thanks again