WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:09.040 I love lap swimming in the pool. It's great exercise. Oh my god. 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:12.440 I love lap swimming in the pool. It is great exercise. 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:24.800 >> Well, if you're a runner or a cyclist or you go to the gym, you know that 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:28.880 forgetting your headphones totally sucks. So, I did what a lot of people do 00:00:27.119 --> 00:00:33.600 and I popped over to Amazon where I found out there are a lot of solutions 00:00:31.840 --> 00:00:39.120 to my problem. We're going to take a look at some of those today. But once I 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:44.239 ventured off Amazon, I discovered that underwater audio is a whole underwater 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:48.320 rabbit hole. See, listening to music beneath the surface, it's not as simple 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:52.239 as you might think. I mean, just like in the air, sound is a wave, and it can 00:00:50.239 --> 00:00:56.399 travel through water, in fact, faster and further due to water molecules being 00:00:54.640 --> 00:01:00.480 packed more densely than air. But there are some problems. See, high frequencies 00:00:58.800 --> 00:01:04.159 basically don't go anywhere. Low frequencies go extremely far, and the 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:07.840 surface of the water can act as a reflector, meaning that if you do it 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:12.880 wrong, you could be swimming around in a acoustic house of mirrors. So, you can't 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:18.240 just take a waterproof speaker, huck it into the pool, and expect it to sound 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:25.040 good. And that's even ignoring the uh obvious Bluetooth connectivity issues. 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:29.200 On top of all that, humans evolved to hear above the surface of the aquatic 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:34.560 zone. So, the best underwater audio solutions have to take a lot of factors 00:01:31.759 --> 00:01:40.560 into account. Thankfully, my leap into the hydro acoustic pool led me to Renzo, 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:46.159 who makes custom professional underwater audio solutions along with a host of 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:49.040 other very interesting things. and he 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:54.159 happens to be local to us, which means I needed to come here myself to find out 00:01:51.759 --> 00:01:58.399 which method of listening to music underwater would be the best while I 00:01:56.240 --> 00:02:01.759 swim my laps. But please be honest with me. Are any of these any good? 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:06.719 >> Some of them. >> Some of them. >> Yes. >> Okay. Why do you make bad ones? 00:02:04.960 --> 00:02:09.920 >> No, the ones I make are all good. >> Ah, yes, I see. Oh, perfect. 00:02:08.640 --> 00:02:15.360 >> I was talking about the underwater speaker part of it. >> Great. That means my last question for 00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:19.400 you is will you help me segue? >> Of course to our to our sponsor 00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:24.800 >> laptops, smartphones, handhelds, drones, you got to keep them charge. Got to keep 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:28.720 them in the zone with the eco blow. Rabbit charges through the pole. Go 00:02:26.480 --> 00:02:34.480 extremely fast. 300 watts total. Going to make it last with a massive capacity 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:40.869 charity. Feel the eco eco blow. 00:02:48.239 --> 00:02:54.720 This place is incredible. But from what I understand, it didn't always belong to 00:02:53.760 --> 00:03:00.560 you, did it? >> Um, no. No. >> So, why do you have this? 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:03.599 >> Well, it's a long story, but my daughter wanted to do the synchronized swimming. 00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:08.080 >> That does sound like a long story. >> Yes. I needed somebody to cut pieces to 00:03:05.519 --> 00:03:11.280 make a sound system so that the coaches could work. 00:03:08.959 --> 00:03:14.159 >> But when you got this, it was just one threeaxis CNC. 00:03:12.720 --> 00:03:19.519 >> Yeah. That the guy didn't even know how to use. >> Okay. You've got so much more than that 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:25.760 now. Like this four axis looks freaking incredible. What can you make on this? 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:27.200 >> We do 3D sculptures. We do columns. We 00:03:25.760 --> 00:03:30.720 do pillars. >> Okay. But why? 00:03:29.040 --> 00:03:33.599 >> For the film industry. >> Oh, okay. Well, where have I seen your 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:38.239 work then? >> Uh, we've done Skyscraper, we've done 00:03:36.480 --> 00:03:42.319 World of Warcraft, we've done Percy Jackson, we've done Playing with Fire, 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:46.640 we've I have a list of different shows that we've done. 00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:49.840 >> This desk must have cost a fortune. 00:03:46.640 --> 00:03:52.080 >> Cost me nothing except sweat and tears. 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:57.439 >> Looks awesome. Let's get to the audio solutions. And here it is, an underwater 00:03:55.680 --> 00:04:03.439 speaker, which we are actually going to get to after just one more side quest. 00:03:59.200 --> 00:04:05.680 Oh my goodness, Renzo. What is this? 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:08.560 >> Those are some very high-end turntables. >> This is beautiful. What kind of wood is 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:14.159 that? >> It's a veneer. It's a black walnut burrow. Affordable, right? 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:19.680 >> Very affordable. They started about $10,000 US. That's before you add a tone 00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:24.080 arm and a needle. So before they make any sound, you're off 10 grand. But 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:26.479 these are people that spend half a million dollars on their sound systems. 00:04:25.919 --> 00:04:32.240 >> Sure. >> Yeah. You need one? >> Uh, no. >> Okay. I suspect that's going to make the 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:34.720 uh underwater audio solution sound downright affordable. What am I holding 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:41.040 right now? >> That's the soul of the underwater system. It's a PZO electric transducer 00:04:38.880 --> 00:04:46.000 encased in epoxy resin. >> Right. Because unlike a normal speaker, 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:51.600 you wouldn't actually want to see the the cone which would vibrate the air. 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:56.240 You actually have to vibrate this entire heavy mass in order to pass that along 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:59.919 to the water. Or am I missing something here? >> No. No. There's actually very little 00:04:58.080 --> 00:05:02.720 vibration. You don't see it moving. Actually, there's not like a speaker 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:06.639 cone that moves. >> Now, I see you've actually got two different ones here. This is a skinnier 00:05:05.919 --> 00:05:13.919 one. >> Yes, this is the US model, the DRS8 and 00:05:11.280 --> 00:05:17.360 this is the DRS82. The reason for that is because the 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:20.080 Canadian laws only allow a certain voltage. So, they put transformers 00:05:18.960 --> 00:05:23.440 inside the speaker, >> whereas this one goes straight to high voltage. 00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:29.919 >> Straight to high voltage. >> Okay. >> It's not going to kill you. It's very little voltage. It's just speaker line 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:34.280 voltage freedom. >> Okay, I'm ready. Go for it. 00:05:34.880 --> 00:05:39.759 >> It's not loud. >> It doesn't have to be. Whales are not 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.320 loud, but you can hear them from one ocean to the other. 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:58.720 The clarity is surprisingly good. I mean, I I don't know what I was 00:05:56.400 --> 00:06:02.240 expecting, but not for it to be pretty decent. >> No, that doesn't sound decent. You take 00:06:00.880 --> 00:06:06.160 that. That sounds horrible. >> I mean, it's it's decent enough. It's 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:11.199 like a kind of coke. My expectations were extremely low. For context, the 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:15.360 solution that these are replacing was literally a coach grabbing their keys 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:19.039 when the underwater speaker doesn't work and just like wrapping them against the 00:06:17.280 --> 00:06:22.960 side of the pool. So, like, I thought the bar was extremely low. The part I 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:26.000 don't get though is those seem pretty bulletproof. So, why did the systems 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:31.360 fail so often? >> Uh, well, that's only part of the equation. Uh, those I've had for 14 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:34.000 years, and I've never seen one fail, >> right? >> But you need to power them. 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:39.120 >> Uhhuh. >> So, you need an amplifier. You need a preamp. They have microphones. They have 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:43.759 You need a source of sound. >> You need an enclosure. >> You need an enclosure. The enclosure is 00:06:42.080 --> 00:06:48.479 the magic of it because it keeps everything from getting corroded with the pool air. 00:06:46.080 --> 00:06:50.319 >> Got it. And that is the special sauce that you've created. 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:55.199 >> That's correct. >> And you provide these to who? I mean, is 00:06:53.039 --> 00:07:00.080 the market for synchronized swimming speakers pretty big or small or medium? 00:06:57.840 --> 00:07:03.440 >> It's big. There's tons of clubs. >> And so, the coach can not only play 00:07:01.840 --> 00:07:06.880 music, but can also use this to communicate to the swimmers under the water. 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:09.840 >> That's correct. >> So cool. I cannot wait to try it. Let's 00:07:09.039 --> 00:07:13.039 go do it. >> The rope is so it stays at about 3 ft 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:21.080 underwater. >> Uhhuh. >> And then you just plug in your sound source, turn it on, and away you go. 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:30.639 To get started, I'm going to need a few things. First, a pool. Check. Second, an 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:36.880 Oceaner speaker with accompanying transformer. Check. Third, a Renzo to 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:41.840 act as DJ for us. Big check there. And there's one more thing I'm forgetting. 00:07:39.039 --> 00:07:46.400 Ah, yes. A way to bring you guys along with us for the journey. This is the 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:50.880 Soundfish 2 Mark II from Ambient Recording, and it's a hydrophone. It's 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:53.520 not the most expensive one we could have gotten, but it's decent. 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:58.319 >> Yeah, it's supposed to be a pretty good one. >> Okay, this is a big moment. I have not 00:07:55.759 --> 00:08:03.880 heard this yet. Okay, hit it, Renzo. Okay, above water. It sounds like it did 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:09.449 in the shop. A little tiny 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:35.599 Okay, that's pretty cool. Obviously, it's not 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:39.919 going to be competitive with a highfidelity speaker setup up here on 00:08:37.839 --> 00:08:45.920 the surface, but like dude, you can hear it too, right? >> Yep. Sounds pretty good. 00:08:41.760 --> 00:08:47.519 >> Like, that was very listen toable. Of 00:08:45.920 --> 00:08:51.839 course, just because I can hear it when I'm stationary doesn't mean that it's 00:08:49.040 --> 00:08:54.399 actually going to be that great. Like, can I do a quick lap swim before we 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:58.720 compare it to something else? >> Let's do it. >> Cuz one of my big concerns is that at 00:08:56.640 --> 00:09:03.480 least one ear is going to be constantly coming out of the water when you come up 00:08:59.920 --> 00:09:03.480 to breathe, right? 00:09:20.959 --> 00:09:26.399 Okay, couple things right out of the gate. 00:09:24.160 --> 00:09:30.880 First up, even though I knew this was supposed to happen, I was surprised at 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:34.959 how consistent the volume was throughout the pool, no matter how far away I got 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:39.120 from the speaker. The parts I didn't expect though were when I got to the 00:09:37.040 --> 00:09:43.200 other side, it kind of started to sound like it was coming from a different 00:09:41.040 --> 00:09:49.600 origin, like it was coming out of that corner of the pool. Then finally, I was 00:09:46.160 --> 00:09:51.920 really impressed at how quickly once my 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:55.279 ear is submerged, it just sounded like it's supposed to sound underwater. I 00:09:53.839 --> 00:09:58.720 thought that like having a little air bubble in my ear or something would make 00:09:57.040 --> 00:10:04.080 it sound really different, but it doesn't. It's still not the most hi-fi 00:10:01.839 --> 00:10:10.480 thing I've ever heard in my life. but very usable. You can actually see 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:12.240 how little it's moving. Like on a normal 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:16.640 speaker, you know, you would see the water like freaking moving around like 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:20.640 this. But look, it's barely moving at all. 00:10:18.079 --> 00:10:24.079 >> I noticed that even though, you know, low frequencies travel best in water, 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:27.120 I'm really not getting that much bass out of it. What's the deal with that? 00:10:25.920 --> 00:10:32.720 >> Yeah, it's just the nature of the transducer. It's not designed to produce 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:35.519 really low frequencies. There is a brand 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:40.160 of speakers that supposedly does that, but I've never tried them. 00:10:36.880 --> 00:10:43.200 >> All right, crank it, Renzo. 00:10:40.160 --> 00:10:45.519 Dude, that's so weird. That sounds like 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:50.410 it's coming from like over there somewhere. Okay. Okay, let's see what 00:10:48.079 --> 00:10:54.169 happens when we go under. 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:03.680 That is really cool. But it isn't the only solution. 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:07.760 >> And this is one of the most popular bone conduction headphones. These are the 00:11:05.760 --> 00:11:12.480 Shocks Open Swim Pros. >> I have to confess, I have never actually 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:16.880 tried bone conduction swimming headphones. >> It's very much a personal preference 00:11:14.800 --> 00:11:20.160 thing. I do not like them. >> Oh, these are already on. 00:11:18.079 --> 00:11:23.120 >> Yeah. And you can feel them vibrate. It's weird. 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:29.920 >> But you can't hear them basically at all. Like here, check this out. 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.640 But I put them on my ears. Whoa, 00:11:29.920 --> 00:11:36.079 >> that's weird. >> Okay, that's pretty cool, too. >> If you haven't heard of bone conduction 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:39.200 headphones before, basically how they work is instead of vibrating your 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:43.360 eardrums, it vibrates the bone in your face, which then vibrates your coccia 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:48.480 directly, uh, bypassing most of your ear. >> Cool. Onar controls for power and 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:51.519 volume. And I guess they just have an MP3 player built into them because 00:11:50.079 --> 00:11:54.720 otherwise, how do they pair to something outside of the water? the these ones. 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:59.040 That's the big upgrade of this year is they can pair to your phone via Bluetooth, but they also have storage 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:02.399 inside. So, you can upload music to them directly and control it that way. The 00:12:00.880 --> 00:12:04.640 downside is you can't control that music via the app. You have to plug it into a 00:12:04.079 --> 00:12:11.360 computer. >> Okay. I mean, I >> it's fine. >> So, iPod grade technology. 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:14.639 >> All right, let's go for a swim. Already, I can tell that your experience with 00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:18.720 these is going to be heavily dependent on how well they fit you. Because 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:27.560 depending on exactly where I get the vibrating pieces, they sound either kind 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:27.560 of okay or like absolute hot garbage. 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:38.480 I'm also surprised at how more different 00:12:35.760 --> 00:12:42.320 these sound above and below the water compared to the underwater speakers. 00:12:40.959 --> 00:12:47.440 >> Well, I would have assumed above and below would be the same cuz it's right against your bone. As soon as I go 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:52.440 underwater here, try them. They sound like hyper bassy. 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.440 >> Huh? 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:58.399 >> Nice trick shot. Yeah. 00:12:56.079 --> 00:13:01.920 >> We interrupt this fun video to show off the big hexi beach towel from 00:13:00.160 --> 00:13:07.440 ltstore.com. It's big. It's orange. It's a bestagon. 00:13:04.800 --> 00:13:12.000 Get yours today. >> I already think they're too bassy as is. 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:17.360 Below the water is really bad. You can EQ it probably. Maybe a little. And to 00:13:14.959 --> 00:13:21.680 be clear, they're fine for listening to music. And honestly, not really much 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:25.279 worse than the ocean ears. No, >> it's just the inconsistency. And 00:13:23.680 --> 00:13:30.000 obviously for an application like synchronized swimming, this is useless 00:13:27.760 --> 00:13:34.160 because how would you get everyone perfectly in sync? You have to be all 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:36.639 listening to the same source. This isn't our only solution, though, right? 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.839 >> No. There's lots of other bone conduction headphones. But maybe that's the kind of thing we should do in a 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.720 roundup. >> Yeah. Let us know if you want to see that in the future. Leave a comment down 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.920 below. >> Yeah. with the headphones you'd want us to cover. >> But we do have one more thing to try 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:50.880 today. >> And it's the worst one. >> Oh no. Actually, wait. There's one more 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:54.240 thing I want to try. Um, do we have the underwater mic? I want to see if it can 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:58.600 hear these. Okay. Okay. Here it is above. Here it is above water. 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:08.639 >> Can you hear it? >> I can hear it a tiny bit. >> Not much. Okay. Okay. That's it. I was 00:14:08.079 --> 00:14:15.279 just curious. >> That bit at the beginning was only kind of a joke. We have the Monster S620, 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:18.800 which is an IPX8 rated speakers, which means it's actually submersible up to a 00:14:16.880 --> 00:14:23.519 certain degree. And it's a pretty okay Bluetooth speaker. Let's see how it does 00:14:20.800 --> 00:14:27.680 underwater. Jeez. 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:31.760 Oh, well, this is terrific. It's all the downsides of absolutely everything we've 00:14:29.839 --> 00:14:36.800 tried so far. Bluetooth connectivity issues whenever it's underwater 00:14:35.040 --> 00:14:41.839 and ass garbage sound quality. To be clear, 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:45.920 Monster never claimed that this was an appropriate solution for listening to 00:14:43.839 --> 00:14:49.920 music underwater. They're just saying that this speaker won't die if you 00:14:48.079 --> 00:14:53.600 accidentally drop it in the pool and it goes underwater. In fact, they even 00:14:52.079 --> 00:14:58.160 designed it to make sure that it doesn't go too far under the water by making it 00:14:55.680 --> 00:15:01.920 float. So, good job, Monster, I guess. Just not a solution to the problem we're 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:04.959 trying to solve today. You know what is a solution to our problem today, though? 00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:09.279 Our sponsor, >> MicroEnter. 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If you guys enjoyed this video, we're going to have Renzo and Janette 00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:50.480 sites linked down below. You guys can go check them out. Was extremely gracious 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:55.040 of them to show us around their shop and lend us these incredible products to try 00:15:52.560 --> 00:15:58.880 out. If you guys can think of any other esoteric technologies, by the way, that 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:02.320 you know we wouldn't normally think to cover, leave a comment down below. And 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:07.600 if you guys enjoyed this video, why not check out the one where we built a home 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.600 theater in my pool?