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nobody likes wasting money so Intel's pitch is a little confusing with our

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get 90 of the performance at 100 of the

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price wait What it's true though this

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thing runs so hot that it is literally impossible to cool through conventional

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means which is why today is going to be a little unconventional this used to be the

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domain of only the boldest modders and tinkerers but now anyone can just pick

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up a kit from ek's web shop and go beyond the Red Line This is a direct dye

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cooler and with it you can drop your CPU temperatures by up to 20 degrees or so

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they say all it takes is potentially killing your 600 CPU and definitely

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voiding your warranty will R core I9 3900k finally see its full potential

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will it even see tomorrow or will it direct die without passing go or

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EK clearly knows me far too well number

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69 of 100 and a hand signed note you

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always do the craziest we have no doubt you will put it to good use absolutely

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than just a pretty face designed in collaboration with der Bauer the quantum

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velocity squared direct die takes the guesswork out of removing the protective

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heat spreader from your CPU and cooling the Silicon die directly before we can

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do that I need to take our CPU out of our system just tested so we know how

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much of improvement the direct dye cooler actually made that's going to take a minute so why don't we have a

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look at the accessory package that comes with the quantum velocity squared direct

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eye first up is a durbauer branded CPU

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removal tool this isn't the only way to remove the IHS from your CPU but it is

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by far the easiest we've also got some thermal Grizzly conduct a knot liquid

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oil compound I'm not a hundred percent sold on going liquid metal on this

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project but I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it a little spreading tool some Allen wrenches and

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we've got a little foam pad this is critical because it's right in the name

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liquid metal if it drips or leaks onto

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something that it's not supposed to it can easily short and even kill your

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system we've personally experienced that hey there it is look at that 3900k it's

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time for your surgery buddy the directions remove the CPU from the

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socket install the dilated CPU in the socket genius the CPU goes into the

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deleting tool here all right then I'm

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pretty sure it's going to be in the 13th gen orientation out of the box so we'll

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just go ahead and put that in there start tightening this boy uh wait a

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second no no don't worry oh I'm a little bit worried because there's a triangle

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right there and there's a triangle in there and if you push it the wrong way

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you remove capacitors we can just very simply check it we

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don't hit those caps we're fine now all we need to do is

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this always makes me extremely uncomfortable yeah I don't love this

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step you don't eat it up or anything oh yeah do you no I am potentially one of

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the people in the world that's delighted the most CPUs oh that sounded good did

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it yeah that did not sound that good I don't like this Alex I think this is

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wrong okay what about you don't do that what about you don't do that as I was

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saying before I'm pretty sure that I'm one of the people in the world that has deleted the most CPUs because that LTX I

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did hundreds oh yeah speaking of which we are going to have a CPU deleting

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booth at LTX again this year so if you want to try it on a dummy CPU before

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doing it on your own it's the perfect place to do it see you there or just do

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it on your CPU there like that's what a lot of people did

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percussive maintenance it's fine we're bringing out the big guns the heat guns

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nah come on what the heck it does not want

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to come off fetch me a hammer wait what are you okay yeah

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debatable I don't love this oh yeah oh yeah oh

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yeah okay wait uh well that seems pretty bad wow

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silicone adhesive Roman if you're watching you might want to give her a

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little more pull distance on this one just a touch more now I know what you're

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thinking that looked awful oh and hey Linus you

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said protective heat spreader why would I remove that okay that's a good

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question and there are a couple of reasons first is that even for something

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with high thermal conductivity like copper adding thickness adding distance

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that the heat needs to travel is going to add thermal resistance second for

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every material change okay like as we move from one into the next there are

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additional losses in the heat transfer since it can actually reflect off the

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surfaces of those materials so the

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closer we can get our cooling to the heat Source the better which raises

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another question really and that's why do Intel and AMD include these things

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then if they make cooling worse and in

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some cases darn near impossible well to

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a certain point they actually help especially with air coolers it can be

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better to spread the heat out a little bit from that small heat generating dye

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to this large larger heat spreader so you can fit more heat pipes across the

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hot part of the Chip And speaking of heat pipes the dye itself can get so hot

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that any heat pipe touching it can end up boiling which is supposed to happen

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but over boiling to the point where it dries out and stops being effective it

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also is protective the dye is extremely

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fragile and back before ihs's were common it was

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pretty common place to see users accidentally crack them and then post

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dead dye porn on the forums do you want

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to explain that we're removing the stock mounting mechanism because obviously

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this is you know what mounts it

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with the stock Hardware if we were to try to put our original cooler back in

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here it wouldn't be able to reach it because

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it's fine now let's chill it's a good thing that there's no IHS on there to

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protect it this will go on here see and it didn't touch it see can't touch it it

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can't reach there's the other problem of if it did touch it it would also touch

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all of these capacitors in the past they'd get around the problem of your

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cooler hitting all the capacitors and stuff by just making it super duper

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small problem is though this right here is just not as good at cooling as this

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and also you put a lot of different types of fittings in here and they hit

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each other we're installing the die guard

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um which involves putting the dye back into the socket yet again but not having

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it fall out this time with these parts machined out to make sure it doesn't

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bump any of the Caps or anything this little boy sits pop right on there look

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at that that's how we're gonna hold the CPU in place now have I mentioned that

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we make the perfect tool for these kinds of delicate operations the LTT

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screwdriver has a strong magnet so you won't lose those little proprietary

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mounting hardware pieces and the perfect

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knurling for putting these things in

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nice and delicately now this is another thing that is special about this block

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instead of having a large contact patch on the bottom it has a small raised one

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so that's going to help us avoid interfering with any kind of hold down or die guard product and EK says that

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the fins on the inside are actually cut closer to the die to help with heat

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transfer we also know that the density of those fins is extremely high here and

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relatively low out here where they are really going to be doing that much now

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under normal circumstances we just put a glob of thermal paste in the middle of a

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chip and then we count on the contact pressure from the cooler to spread it

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out not so here we absolutely need to

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spread this out to cover all parts of the dye because even a tiny little air

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pocket could cause a hot spot in a place where maybe there is no thermal sensor

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and it could just fry itself into Oblivion going back to the whole IHS is

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a heat spreader thing that only solves that problem seems pretty good to me did

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we put this on now uh yeah oh this is so bad doing things

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such that the camera can see it is so much harder than doing things such that

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I know right all right well before before you go before you go oh yeah yeah

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yeah yeah yeah just to fill in any little micro gaps okay is it lined up I

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don't know well can you look you're the one on the front

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well yeah that's exactly what I can't see you can't see much over here too it

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feels like they're threading did you guys drain the loop I mean a little

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you're just gonna ah

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yeah hey there we go all right success

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yeah yeah all right so this goes on here

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uh I'm sure you can make that work okay I'm kind of feeling this length

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short now no dog do you think this is my first rodeo Oh my God

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okay hey are we ready

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okay it's at 85 Degrees which is oh 64.

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huh that's not good this should be

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working very very well right now and it

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is not the odds of immediate catastrophic failure are much higher

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when you don't have an integrated heat spreader on oh well hold on second core

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temperatures here we go it's an average of 29 maybe that isn't that far off okay

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fine Roman suggested that we start by

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doing like a single threaded cinebench or maybe like a quad threaded Benchmark

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of some sort rather than hit the whole CPU at once but we're just gonna do the

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whole thing I thought you're actually going to take

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his advice for a second there okay so we've got a hot core I'm gonna stop this

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yeah yeah we might need to remount it yeah this top P core P core zero went to

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99 degrees immediately and actually P chord two is looking pretty bad too here

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we go let's put on some more oh God

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that's a lot I sucked up too much crap

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okay that's pretty good let's go multi-core and

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hello okay there we go that's more like

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it this is quite consistent that's what we want to see also that's really chilly

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69 degrees on the core maximum nice so

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that's 11 degrees lower than stock but we also hit a much higher score so stock

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was 36.60 or 36 600. wow really yeah we got

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700 points just from running a little bit cooler okay well this is great what

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next well we can just hit it with prime95 do an actual like

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testes okay and cheese 89 degrees was

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the max before after 30 minutes I know it's only been a few minutes but this is

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really uh good yeah so it's been what five minutes now it hit its Max

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temperature last time after 11. I just looked it up oh I

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power is only 180 Watts well it's stock Just Pure Stock oh well that's boring

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let's make it turbo more so our Max there was 61 degrees it would have

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gotten hotter but at the same time not much yeah that was pretty good this is

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dual triple radiators that water wasn't going to heat up much with only a CPU

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dumping heat into it remove all limits boom Oh my God it's not hot at all

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hottest core maximum 69 degrees again

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nice so we just need to overclock it yeah

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amazing it's Tamed

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wow she's ripping harder than prime9 5 72. how many Waddy

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watts is it drawing oh I'll check Max 2 3 is already still huh and 37 320 same

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score overclocking time then but did we overclock with this

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this is getting cold

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yes okay are we going for a live swap here

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all right you ready Alex with no uh oh we need to plug it in yeah

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oh we need to move fast because we need to move very fast no water movement uh

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this CPU is going to be getting yeah especially since just air in there pretty toasty we need our sketchy 240

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volt cable it's been in zero videos okay

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plugged in working on it hold on hold on I'm going to start I'm going to start a

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load oh it's all at 100. oh it started oh I'm working on it start it start it

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it's not turning on Alex why is it not the switch wasn't on hello

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no I don't want to fry the CPU

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there we go those fittings are not made

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for that oh my God there's water everywhere David okay we did hold on I'm

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gonna turn it off

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um we need to do a bit of a fitting swap the good news is that so much of the

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water drained out of the block that it's empty we don't have much time we're at

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56 degrees on that CPU all right try

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again yeah oh there we go there it goes she dropped this chills fast we're down

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to 11 degrees right now we want to just run us in a bench and see how hot it

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gets sure so 49 degrees wow 38 000

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points without doing anything to it we've done nothing yet I have XTU open

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yet but I haven't touched it I bet with how loud I talk my levels are probably

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about the same as Alex's on his mic here we go this is a little bit safer I

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believe okay it works 350 watts and 76

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degrees nowhere near the limit this is working very well

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41. so that actually took the six years that time I believe okay why don't you

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give the other two core six then the P chores I mean let's try five nine and

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six one yeah yeah we probably even give it More

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Voltage oh God it was it was happy there okay one two five sure six two do you

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think we can do it you don't have to three steps in one

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wow that's a lot of voltage she's not

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going to do more than 350 Watts for power limited for the first time

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how'd we do well the bad news is I still managed to

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hit 100 degrees on the CPU good news it was drawing 510 Watts at

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the time this board will just give you power it

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can draw like 700 Watts if you want what does that look like in terms of

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cinebench then very fast extremely fast

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it also is worth noting that that was with the voltages pretty high you don't

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get any more performance after about 480 Watts this block is dangerously close to

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condensation territory here oh yeah that's a rock solid six gigahertz on all

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performance cores that is wild and like the temps are getting high

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some of them are getting into the 90s but still reasonable 480 Watts yep

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it's doing it now for funsies there's also a GPU

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overclock it's just a little one you can't do too much because like you know

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voltage limits yeah yeah if we were able to put like a voltage controller onto

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that we could get a lot more highest temp I've seen 37 degrees so far wow fun

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fact pretty much all gpus have no IHS so

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they are direct dye cooled right out of the box that's uh for a couple of

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reasons one is that an IHS adds Z height which would make your graphics card

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thicker which is undesirable or at least it was until recently and number two

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they're not meant to be user serviceable so there's very little risk of anyone

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accidentally cracking their die oh and right three because again of size and

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space constraints they want to get the best possible cooling out of these

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things so going directly to the die is going to give them the best shot at that

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they also tend to be larger so having just two heat pipes on it and drying out

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is less of a concern they're a little less power dense this is stupid you hit

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6.3 on a single core yeah it'll do two cores 6.3 6.4 dead in that

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case I think it's fair to say that we are not thermally limited no we are at

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the limits of this silicon right now to be clear we're not talking about going

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deep deep Sub-Zero with liquid nitrogen or liquid helium or anything like that

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the the physics of the Silicon changes significantly at those kinds of

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temperatures we're talking within reason at the limits of the Silicon but we

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might have also just got a package from Elmer Labs oh are you really doing that

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get subscribed what makes this a CPU test is it just that it's really

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simulation heavy or is that it's actually rendered on the CPU it's

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rendered on the CPU yeah this is normally like 10 FPS we

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can't set any records because that's held by like 64 core thread rippers but

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that was like 4550 FPS yeah wow wow

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that's actually a pretty bad run for this system we normally get more around

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this video why don't you check out the time we cool the PC with fire actually

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well liquid propane but who's keeping track it was bigger on fire how fast do

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490s go there's clocks 2.52 okay we're at two seven four five

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there oh okay very fast and at like 27 degrees

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good boy