So back at Computex, when Intel did that weird demo
on stage where they had this like,
this like chilled liquid cooled 28 core
overclocked processor,
I don't think anyone could figure out
what exactly it was they were trying to accomplish.
Even Intel themselves didn't seem to know what was going on
because that same CPU, although not cooled by chilled liquid
was actually on display the next day
with their board partners like ASUS,
only to be quickly yanked away
and then we haven't heard anything about it since then,
except for a leaked roadmap that seems to suggest
that Intel is planning what appears to be
a knee jerk reaction to AMD's 32 core Threadripper 2,
a 28 core based on as far as we can tell,
a similar platform to their existing Xeon Platinum.
Now, I don't know what segment they're gonna target
with this, a workstation, enthusiast,
people with more money than brains,
but whatever it is, I realized something.
We actually have in our hands,
both the 32 core Threadripper 2
and Intel Xeon Platinum 8180,
which rumor has it will be very similar
to the upcoming enthusiast chip,
albeit without overclocking.
So today we are gonna put them
head to head as a preview
of the ultimate heavyweight showdown of CPUs
we're not sure who is going to buy.
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So while Ivan puts the finishing touch
on our LGA 3647 bench over there,
I'm gonna walk you through what are otherwise
as identical as we can get them to be.
We can get them test rigs.
So in here, we've got a Threadripper 32 core.
We've got a Noctua 120 millimeter tower cooler.
We've got a Zenith Xtreme motherboard
with what I believe is 32 gigs of RAM, 32 gigs, right?
Yeah, it should be.
And then we've got a GTX 1080, Samsung 840 Pro SSD,
and an RM850i power supply.
Now, bear in mind that any results
that we show you guys for this guy
have to be taken with a significant grain
of salt because Intel will have at least, I think,
a couple of months to tune the consumer version of this
before you would ever be able to buy one.
Not that most people would ever be able to buy one.
Like, this is 10 grand.
So we don't know how much or how little they're planning
to slash the price compared to the Pro one,
but like, it ain't gonna be cheap.
So this guy right here has got same power supply,
same cooler, sort of, except it's like a modified version
that works with LGA 3647.
Thank you, Noctua, for that.
Thank you, Noctua, for sending that over.
We've got them both hooked up to power meters,
and then it's running an ASUS Z11PA-U12.
It's got the same GeForce GTX 1080 Founder's Edition,
and then it is, of course, running a Xeon Platinum 8180.
Now, the RAM, this is something that could affect our results,
but we had to use what's compatible with our CPU.
So this is DDR4-2666 ECC memory,
the same stuff from our six workstations, one CPU project.
Hey, it's done.
Here we go.
Is this broken?
This CPU, what, what, what, what, what, what, what?
Okay, adding another boulder-sized grain of salt
to this whole experience is that this latest BIOS
we just flashed no longer supports the 8180 CPU,
probably, if I had to guess,
because of its massive 205-watt TDP.
So we're gonna have to go back in time to another BIOS
in order to run our comparison.
And four hours later, we finally have the solution.
You know what?
Screw it.
We're just gonna run our...
We're just gonna run the light of a thousand suns
directly into Ivan's eyes.
Spawning into my soul.
Sorry about that.
Anyway, none of the BIOSes we tried worked,
and we downloaded, like, one of the earliest ones
that should have been the same as what we had,
and it was corrupt right off AC system.
Whatever, it doesn't matter.
Point is, we're just using our dual-socket board,
with a single CPU,
where the only real consideration performance-wise
is we have to make sure we use a PCI Express slot
that is connected to that socket.
So everything's hunky-dory.
This is effectively the same
apples-ish to apples-ish comparison,
and we are ready to go.
So naturally, I'm sure the first thing you guys
are gonna wanna see after the task manager porn,
56 threads on this one, 64 threads on this one,
is probably gonna be Cinebench, right?
It's gotta be Cinebench.
Boom!
Who will finish first?
Wow, those are both super fast,
but one of them looks a little faster.
One of them looks a fair bit faster.
Whoa!
AMD is a good 20% ahead, which makes sense,
because even though Threadripper 2's performance per clock
is lower than Intel's Skylake architecture,
they do have a core advantage,
so they have four more cores, and watch this.
We're gonna go ahead, we're gonna run the test again,
and we're gonna have a look at what our clock speeds are
while they're going.
So you can see here, AMD is turboing up higher
when you're hitting all the cores compared to Intel.
So round one goes to the Threadripper 2990WX.
Test number two, the V-Ray benchmark from Chaos Group.
So we're running the CPU benchmark here.
Here we go, our AMD processor is pinned,
our Intel processor is pinned.
AMD's looking pretty good here too, wow.
And done.
Okay, no matter which one of these things you buy,
you're gonna be like going super fast,
and three seconds doesn't seem like a lot of difference,
but three seconds out of 30 is 10% faster for Threadripper 2.
This is great.
Tell us more about your gear.
Are you overclocking?
Is it liquid cooling or anything else ingenious
for getting a performance boost?
Does it show that every time?
Or is it just when you're like bananas?
Hey Anthony, you ever seen this in the V-Ray benchmark?
It did it on both of these.
I wonder if there's some kind of a threshold.
Clearly that's a tailored message.
Yeah.
No, we're not doing anything ingenious,
just spending lots of money.
So for our blender test,
we're going to be rendering the classroom scene.
And this one will probably actually take a couple minutes.
So we'll come back in just a moment here.
Man, that's a lot of cores.
It's beautiful.
You can even just feel the heat coming off these things.
This does seem like a good opportunity
to remind you guys though,
that this is not the actual product.
This is just the closest thing that we have to it now.
This is cool though,
compared to that burn test we were running before,
it's turboing much higher in real world applications,
even though the usage is a hundred percent.
So it looks like they might be detecting
stress testing applications and throttling down.
Anyway, so that's interesting to know.
In terms of power consumption,
this is one area where Intel's looking a little bit better.
Our Threadripper 2 machine is pulling 380 watts
from the wall.
Remember, this is before we've even touched the GPU,
and this is with no overclocking on either of them,
because our Xeon won't overclock,
whereas we don't know what Intel's planning to do
with the real chip that's coming.
And then Intel's pulling about 265 watts.
It's crazy.
They both feel like space heaters, you know?
With the fans, even with these fans running at full speed,
and these are nice fans.
Oh boy, this is not looking amazing for Intel right now.
Threadripper 2 already chewed through
the first segment of the test, and I think it's done.
Wow.
Just under five minutes for Classroom,
whereas Intel,
we're at 515,
and it hasn't even finished the initial render.
545.
I don't think I ever thought I would see it again.
AMD's top of the line versus Intel's top of the line,
and it just being a blowout.
So that concludes the productivity segment of our testing,
and now we're gonna do what neither Intel nor AMD
is gonna be particularly stoked on.
We're gonna fire up some games.
So starting with CSGO.
Well, if CSGO is anything to go by,
Intel looks like they're gonna have a bit better of a time
when it comes to gaming.
With that said, CSGO is known to heavily favor
Intel's current chips versus AMD's Zen-based chips.
Oh boy.
Average frame rate, 310.21
versus 297.85.
That doesn't seem right.
Because in game-
This was so much higher.
Hex?
I have an alibi.
Yeah, I don't know what just happened there.
There's like, there's no way.
Okay, well take those results with even more salt
than the rest of this video,
because there's no way that's right.
That doesn't make any sense.
All right.
Our test is done.
We can go ahead and quit the game.
Okay.
So these are more like the numbers
we were expecting to see in CSGO.
That brings us to our-
Our final game.
Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
How to benchmark on the same account
with two PCs at once.
You gotta do the Ethernet cable shuffle.
It goes like this.
Play game.
Here we go.
Now this is closer.
This is really close.
With all these character models,
Intel is actually enjoying a pretty significant advantage.
Average FPS, 100.
Average FPS, 87.
So, a significant advantage.
But it should be noted that a gaming advantage
from one of these CPUs to the other
is not particularly meaningful.
If you wanted to game,
you would run out and you would buy a secondhand 7700K
and overclock the snot out of it.
Oh right, thermals.
We're not done yet.
So we already have a pretty good idea
of what we're gonna see here,
simply because the power consumption
on Intel's platform was so much lower.
Yeah, so this is consistent with what we saw before
with Intel's cores coming in about five degrees lower.
So there you have it, guys.
I said it before, but it bears repeating.
Take everything you saw here with a grain of salt
because we don't know what, if anything,
Intel will change about the real product
that they're supposedly coming out with.
I mean, something like an increase
to the all-core boost frequencies
could make a significant difference
to the results that we got today.
But what it looks like?
For now, is that for the first time in over a decade,
in a pure who's got the biggest wheelie competition,
because I don't know that we would necessarily
put a two-thumbs-up recommendation behind either of these,
depending on pricing,
AMD might have the bigger wheelie.
Who'da thunk it?
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