1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,859 for the longest time Intel range Supreme all the way from the highest power 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:10,320 workstation and gaming rigs to the tiny 3 00:00:07,859 --> 00:00:15,660 power sipping chips that you'd find in an ultra portable laptop fortunately for 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:20,340 consumers AMD got their crap together a couple of years ago bringing the world 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:25,260 ryzen a return to at least competitiveness on the consumer desktop 6 00:00:22,859 --> 00:00:32,700 and even the high-end workstation but one area where Intel was on top that is 7 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:35,460 until very very recently was super small 8 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:40,860 PCS with their Nook or next unit of computing lineup which possibly changes 9 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:43,379 I can't get my hand on this today this 10 00:00:40,860 --> 00:00:52,559 is what appears to be one of the very first AMD ryzen based Nooks it's tiny 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,660 it's light and I have very high 12 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:58,379 expectations just like you have very high 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:03,120 expectations of my Segways to our sponsors like Messi messy Footwear makes 14 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:08,040 comfortable shoes that are light and waterproof their new weekend shoe can be 15 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:12,540 worn any day anywhere anytime even on the weekend reserve yours today for five 16 00:01:10,020 --> 00:01:14,900 dollars at vesseyfortware.com Linus Tech tips 17 00:01:21,619 --> 00:01:27,119 Minnie's forum's goal for the dma F5 on 18 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:33,900 Indiegogo was like what a weird number like 13 500 or something like that they 19 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:35,340 ended up raising over 400 Grand so why 20 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:39,900 don't we do a quick unboxing and have a look at what we get inside so we've got a Visa compatible Mount so you can pop 21 00:01:38,460 --> 00:01:46,619 one of these on the back of your monitor if you want like a an AIO look to your 22 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:48,780 setup we've got wow really apparently it 23 00:01:46,619 --> 00:01:53,640 includes what appears to be a little Bluetooth keyboard so the receiver just 24 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:57,899 tucks into the back you plug that puppy in if you wanted to use this as like a 25 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:01,799 media PC for example this would be great I have something very similar at home it 26 00:02:00,479 --> 00:02:09,000 appears that there's left and right click on here is this an air mouse too I'm not sure but it only comes it only 27 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:12,480 came for like the early backers oh only the early backers get this yeah I'm 28 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:16,020 actually I'm jazzed to try this because mine is super bulky this one from sedeko 29 00:02:14,819 --> 00:02:20,760 and I haven't been able to find an alternative to it yet you also get a 30 00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:25,319 power brick HDMI cable that is a really short HDMI cable that is a that is a 31 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:28,260 Pinner HDMI cable I mean I guess it's good enough to go from a vase amount to 32 00:02:26,819 --> 00:02:32,340 the bottom of the monitor but that's about it ladies and gentlemen you get an 33 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:35,220 equally DisplayPort cable I'm bringing back painter you know that right it's 34 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:39,480 just because you're a Pinner hey there's no there's no shame in being pinned 35 00:02:36,540 --> 00:02:42,180 you've also got a USB type a to micro b charging cable for that included 36 00:02:41,099 --> 00:02:46,260 keyboard I kind of inadvertently showed you guys 37 00:02:44,099 --> 00:02:50,519 how easy it is to get access to the internals but let's let's take a tour of 38 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:55,500 the outside first on the front we've got our power button we've got a headphone 39 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,000 jack two type a USB threes now this one 40 00:02:55,500 --> 00:03:00,959 according to the Indiegogo page anyway is 10 gig and this one's 5 gig but this 41 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,980 one provides power even when it's sleeping but it used to be color-coded yellow like those normally are now it's 42 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:09,660 not so I don't really know what the deal is with that we've got a type c running 43 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:14,040 at 10 gig and then nothing on this side nothing on this side I keep accidentally 44 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:17,519 popping that top off and then over on the back we've got a couple more 10 45 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:24,420 gigabit per second USB 3s DisplayPort HDMI dual gigabit Lan and Power in okay 46 00:03:21,780 --> 00:03:28,260 so that gives us a total of one two actually apparently this front USB 47 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:33,239 type-c can be used as a display output so that's three outputs and because it's 48 00:03:31,140 --> 00:03:37,379 got dual Lan ports one of the use cases that they advertise for it is actually 49 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:41,700 as like a PF sense box although personally I think I'd feel kind of 50 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:46,319 limited by something like this anyway let let's formally open it up now you've 51 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:50,580 got two clicky dude ads right here and you just pop it off like that that 52 00:03:48,299 --> 00:03:55,680 reveals looks like we've got a SATA drive connector right here it's not 53 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:58,560 immediately apparent to me exactly where 54 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:03,180 that's gonna turn out to ah to the bottom of the lid uh two sewed in memory 55 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:08,340 slots for dual Channel ddr4 as well as an m.2 slot over here now what I can't 56 00:04:05,819 --> 00:04:14,099 immediately see is the cooling solution and socket for the CPU or rather I 57 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:19,260 should just say that BGA solder point to the CPU reveal your secret 58 00:04:16,859 --> 00:04:22,560 well no I didn't quite have it removed there 59 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:28,139 secrets Clinton's probably not faster reveal 60 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,820 them why is this not coming off oh I see 61 00:04:28,139 --> 00:04:34,400 so there's probably some clips or something for this back part here oh 62 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:42,840 hey wow that was awesome knock that screw right into the parts tray that's 63 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:48,660 some Advanced dropping technique right there oh my goodness 64 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:49,680 um why is this screwed in from the other 65 00:04:48,660 --> 00:04:53,699 side why maybe I over complicated things for 66 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:59,580 myself you know what I bet I didn't see these screws because there was memory in 67 00:04:56,580 --> 00:05:01,919 the way there they are way to go Linus 68 00:04:59,580 --> 00:05:08,340 see the whole thing would have just popped off like that I blame I blame 69 00:05:04,919 --> 00:05:10,380 Jake this seems to be a vrm heatsink of 70 00:05:08,340 --> 00:05:15,479 some sort so let's go ahead and pop that puppy off there we go oh interesting 71 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:20,040 well I mangled the Jesus out of that thermal pad so that's cool but yes that 72 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:24,900 is in fact what that was for so that's good and you know what let's just pop 73 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,220 the m.2 out like who needs this thing to ever boot up again anyway right 74 00:05:28,580 --> 00:05:34,680 okay yeah we haven't really done the video yet so that's uh that's 75 00:05:32,699 --> 00:05:40,259 challenging wow why does it have these little uh rubbers on the m.2 stick here 76 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:44,120 I don't like rubbers on my stick don't appreciate it exactly well they have an 77 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:49,080 operation for that let's give you the run down here it's 78 00:05:46,259 --> 00:05:53,340 available in two configurations with 256 gigs of storage average and eight gigs 79 00:05:50,820 --> 00:05:56,639 of RAM for 429 that's early bird pricing though so we have no idea how that's 80 00:05:54,479 --> 00:06:01,860 going to shake out to regular pricing or double that for I think it's yeah 529. 81 00:05:59,220 --> 00:06:07,560 now we do have some concerns uh this is a SATA drive so it's m.2 but you can 82 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:12,060 tell by the key that that's a SATA m.2 not an NVMe Drive they have gotten that 83 00:06:10,139 --> 00:06:16,440 feedback though and apparently the newer ones are going to be NVMe as for RAM 84 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:20,940 unfortunately the 8 gig configuration ships with a single stick so you're not 85 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,800 running in dual Channel which means you kind of have to go with the higher end 86 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:30,300 one if you want the full performance speaking of full performance as we all 87 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:36,840 know ryzen benefits from higher memory speed in a big way unfortunately not 88 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,340 only is this 2400 megahertz RAM but we 89 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:44,400 actually tried installing some higher speed stuff that we had lying around at the office and the BIOS seemed to still 90 00:06:41,940 --> 00:06:48,539 be locked to 2400 megahertz so we'll see how that works out for us when we do our 91 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:54,000 performance testing later uh so we got ax Wi-Fi so so that's Wi-Fi 92 00:06:51,539 --> 00:06:58,380 six in there that's pretty sweet hey they took the gamer's Nexus approach to 93 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:03,900 thermal compound you can't have too much so don't even try I have no idea which 94 00:07:01,740 --> 00:07:10,819 screws go where anymore this is this is quite disassembled now we get our first 95 00:07:07,500 --> 00:07:14,039 look at the ryzen 5 35 96 00:07:10,819 --> 00:07:16,979 50h Apu that's installed in the system 97 00:07:14,039 --> 00:07:24,180 now don't let AMD's confusing naming scheme mislead you here even though this 98 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:26,639 is a 3000 Series ryzen it is not Zen two 99 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:31,919 it is unfortunately Zen plus uh don't feel bad though if you uh didn't know 100 00:07:29,340 --> 00:07:36,120 that right off the Hop I2 was Bamboozled the fact that I thought this was Zen 2 101 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:40,259 was one of the main reasons that I was so excited to check this thing out so 102 00:07:38,099 --> 00:07:45,840 it's not seven nanometer it's 12 nanometer everything is PCI Express gen 103 00:07:42,780 --> 00:07:49,259 3 and all of that good stuff with that 104 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,900 said this is still an utterly unique 105 00:07:49,259 --> 00:07:57,180 product and one that but I really wanted to look at just because it's finally an 106 00:07:54,539 --> 00:08:01,759 AMD alternative to Intel's Nook lineup now we can go ahead and put this puppy 107 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:06,180 back together with it mostly reassembled All That 108 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:10,319 Remains is to pop in some dual Channel memory so that we're giving it its best 109 00:08:07,860 --> 00:08:14,460 chance possible as well as throw in some more storage so that we've got room for 110 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:18,599 all of our you know games about warfare that's very modern and all that all that 111 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,199 kind of good stuff so I'll pop that in there now one of the things you might 112 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:27,780 have noticed about that cooling solution as we were looking at it was that it's 113 00:08:24,419 --> 00:08:31,620 pretty darn robust by default AMD specs 114 00:08:27,780 --> 00:08:34,020 this particular CPU for 15 watts TDP but 115 00:08:31,620 --> 00:08:37,800 it can be configured to up to 35 and that is apparently the route that 116 00:08:35,700 --> 00:08:43,680 Minnie's Forum has gone now we're still not expecting it to compete with a Zen 2 117 00:08:40,380 --> 00:08:46,260 based CPU and ASUS actually has some 118 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:50,399 sort of Nook competitors based on Zen 2 that are probably going to beat the 119 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:55,440 stuffing out of this thing but I want to give it a shot anyway just because hey 120 00:08:52,860 --> 00:08:58,980 first out of the gate all right got our screen capture working which involved 121 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:03,660 poking around in Radeon software a little bit but yes Radeon software 122 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:09,180 that's right my friends it's a Nook alike hey can we call them that nooka 123 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,100 likes that's not bad that's not bad it's 124 00:09:09,180 --> 00:09:16,500 a nooka-like running radio on Graphics Now Intel actually did a Nook with AMD 125 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:21,779 Graphics in it a while back but this is different and unfortunately not as 126 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:23,100 powerful these are Vega 8 graphics and 127 00:09:21,779 --> 00:09:26,880 they are clocked at around 1200 megahertz and our expectations are 128 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:32,220 basically that we should get a pretty solid experience in Esports titles but 129 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:37,140 beyond that and probably not that amazing while performance as we expected 130 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:42,600 it's not you know jaw dropping or anything to their credit it's not loud 131 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:45,600 like that's very reasonable for a Mini 132 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,940 PC and check this out the whole strategy 133 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:52,080 of more than doubling the uh the suggested TDP from AMD seems to be 134 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:57,120 working out pretty good 3.36 gigahertz at 100 load across all course 1667 135 00:09:55,380 --> 00:10:04,680 points puts us right in range of a mobile Skylake core i7 so that's pretty 136 00:09:59,519 --> 00:10:09,060 respect but well behind even a quad core 137 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:10,800 like desktop CPU from that generation a 138 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:15,240 little unfortunate but maybe we'll make up some ground in let's say rocket 139 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:19,800 League I mean obviously this is not a gaming oriented product but you know 140 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:24,060 Scott Radeon graphics compared to Intel on board so 141 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:28,440 1080 texture detail high performance World detail high quality most stuff 142 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:32,880 turned on but not everything okay sure yeah let's see let's give it a shot 143 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:40,760 right okay so we're getting anywhere from around 30 to 40 FPS not bad so like 144 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,760 game console territory yeah 145 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:49,620 honestly it's not amazing but like if 146 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:52,920 you showed me this like you know 10 years ago I'd have been like 147 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:57,180 of course just because it's quiet doesn't necessarily mean that the 148 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,740 thermal performance is good so I want to take a look at what our CPU temps are 149 00:10:59,339 --> 00:11:06,720 like when we're hitting it hard okay that's respectable 80 degrees I mean 150 00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:10,500 obviously it's not like my favorite thing in the world to have a CPU running 151 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:14,880 at 80 degrees but it's not like you're water cooling the thing in here and 152 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:17,040 given how quiet it is not bad not bad 153 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,700 minis for them is that you're supposed to pronounce it Minnie's I don't know I 154 00:11:18,899 --> 00:11:25,920 don't really know they can play Valerian I'll be pretty happy with that okay 155 00:11:23,579 --> 00:11:32,820 looks like it's playing Valor to me at 4K wait what shut up client FPS here 156 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:38,940 here we go graph show both show both all right both why not both okay what are we 157 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:43,200 looking at what client FPS 50 to 60 FPS 158 00:11:38,940 --> 00:11:45,180 Valor 4K hold on get over here Brandon 159 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:49,260 we're gonna have to do a quick check we're gonna have to do a quick check 160 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:54,720 here for alternate computers plugged into the thing 161 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:56,700 nope that's it that's pretty good for 162 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:00,660 on-board graphics I mean the settings are probably pretty oh is there a render 163 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:03,899 resolution maybe let me check let me check that even if the settings are low 164 00:12:02,220 --> 00:12:07,620 people play Esports games at low settings to get better performance okay 165 00:12:05,940 --> 00:12:12,380 yeah it's pretty low it's but that's what most people use anyways let me just 166 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,420 see if maybe it's like rendering at 50 167 00:12:12,380 --> 00:12:17,640 res or what no it doesn't seem to be wow 168 00:12:15,420 --> 00:12:23,220 okay that's pretty cool what was this thing 500 bucks sure now for fun let's 169 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:27,839 try some media encoding now one of the ways we could do this is fire up 170 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,940 handbrake or ffmpeg but the reality of 171 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:33,660 it is most people aren't doing that so let's take something else most people 172 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:38,700 aren't doing running a Plex server at home and let's put it through the paces 173 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:43,260 there so the idea behindplex is you rip your favorite Blu-rays or DVDs or 174 00:12:40,980 --> 00:12:48,540 whatever the case may be you throw them onto a Nas or a little box like this and 175 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:52,440 then from anywhere whether it's on a computer on your TV or on a phone you 176 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:57,779 can access it kind of like your own little personal Netflix so Jake actually 177 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:01,680 has his account signed in here he's firing up his phone and let's see how 178 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:09,180 hard this puppy's getting hit so Plex transcoder is asking for about 22 179 00:13:04,860 --> 00:13:12,360 percent uh on video and about 20 on 180 00:13:09,180 --> 00:13:13,860 audio it's running nice and nice and 181 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:17,459 quiet it should be plain and what is this is this 4K it's original quality 4K 182 00:13:15,779 --> 00:13:21,660 so the only thing that's transcoding is audio that's fantastic it's actually 183 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:27,000 kind of crazy how heavy audio is hey like I didn't realize until I started 184 00:13:23,820 --> 00:13:28,860 running Plex how you know video is like 185 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:33,360 no big deal in some cases in this case it's because the 4K video stream is 186 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:38,639 actually just directly streaming because uh Jake's phone has built-in decoding 187 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:42,480 for that but it's the audio that you actually have trouble with in some cases 188 00:13:40,139 --> 00:13:46,320 so this is this is freaking awesome oh no 189 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:50,459 oh it looks terrible something is not happy that's horrendous come on give it 190 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:54,660 a sec oh there we go it's back to 100 there's no way no you're done you're out 191 00:13:52,320 --> 00:14:01,260 all right it can't handle the 4K oh well oh it's oh it's it's dying time for a 192 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:03,779 1080p transcode test 4K was ridiculous 193 00:14:01,260 --> 00:14:07,740 it's playing it hasn't buffered it might be building up a buffer 194 00:14:05,820 --> 00:14:11,220 and then maybe it'll relax a bit I don't know yeah there it is it's chilling out 195 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:16,139 a little bit now well that's fantastic so it's enough to 196 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:20,940 do probably One 1080p transcript and then maybe one 720 or something like 197 00:14:18,180 --> 00:14:26,040 that but I wouldn't count on it still for an all-rounder little machine I'm 198 00:14:23,220 --> 00:14:31,260 I'm impressed as heck by this thing 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