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in my hand is the single scariest GPU in

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the world this Chinese GPU is so threatening that it's got Biden flying

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around the world begging semiconductor manufacturers to stop working with China

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why well because it's completely homegrown from the Shroud to the sand

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that makes the Silicon this is a Chinese product and it took only 2 years to

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create more threads has been extremely secretive about its development but now

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that it's out of their Testing Lab there's nothing to stop it from spreading around the world into my hands

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allow me to introduce then the brand new fourth player in the dedicated GPU space

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but then if you consider that a behemoth company like Intel has had such a rocky

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road to bringing a GPU to Market how could this unproven Underdog possibly

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hope to compete with the likes of NVIDIA and AMD they're going to have to be

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first showed up on our radar in 2021 and since then they've gone from fledgling

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startup to raising a total of half a billion US Dollars and no fewer than

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five SKS listed on their website absolutely wild but also not as

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unexpected as you might initially think you see they're helmed by James Zang who

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previously was VP and general manager of nidia's Chinese Division and they're

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funded by you guessed it the CCP so when

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we learned that they had finally launched their first gaming GPU we had

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to get one except we couldn't

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unsurprisingly as members of the western media more threads was completely

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uninterested in returning our calls and the first wave of gpus that they

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released to customers were only available for those who managed to get

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their hands on a purchase code through a lottery system kind of OnePlus style

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thankfully we were able to find one such individual who was willing to send us

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the GPU to take a look at thanks pal

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okay the script just says unbox is there anything interesting ah well this is

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interesting rather than use a standard PCI power connector more threads has an

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adapter that appears to go from Dual PCI E8 pin to eight pin EPS which is the

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connector that you would normally use for a motherboard not for a GPU this is

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something we've seen before on server gpus but not really on gaming ones

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whether it's due to the aluminum shroud or the relatively wide spacing of the

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heat SN fins it's feels kind of light compared to a modern top tier card like

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a 7900 XTX it's rated for 255 wats total

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board power though so depending on the performance per watt it could end up

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within spitting distance in games that 255 wat TDP could also help explain our

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8 Pin CPU connector this guy is rated at 300 watts compared to the 150 watts of

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an 8 pin PCIe connector though there are other strategies for that like putting

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dual PCIe 8 pins on it the more likely possibility is that this is pretty much

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the same thing as their new server GPU the MTT s3000 that happens to have the

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same number of compute cores clocked slightly higher and twice as much RAM

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just with a gaming oriented shroud on it in servers PCI based cards like NVIDIA's

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Tesla now known as data center gpus commonly use EPS power connectors for a

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couple of reasons first and foremost it's faster to plug in one cable than

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two and also because the EPS 12vt connector was established by SSI or the

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server system infrastructure Forum way back before PCIe power connectors even

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existed and it's just kind of never really gone

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away what makes this gaming then honestly not much it's got a triple fan

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shroud compared to the blower style that you would normally find in server or

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workstation cards and ample display outputs this is three DisplayPort 1.4s

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and an HDMI 2.1 making it extremely modern and that's not the only way it's

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modern this is the first GPU with a PCI

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gen 5x6 interface that's right they beat

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NVIDIA AMD and and Intel to the punch

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it's got 16 gigs of gddr6 memory 496

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Musa compute cores clocked at 1.8 GHz

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giving it 14.4 teraflops of fp32 compute

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power hm so maybe not trading blows with

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the 7900 XTX that would put it between an RTX 3060 and a 3060 TI in terms of

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raw performance which is sort of disappointing I mean I

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thought this thing was supposed to be scary right adding to its modernness it

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supports vp9 h264 h265 and apparently

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av1 encoding and that 16 gigs of memory

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is connected over a 256-bit memory bus

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giving it about the same maximum memory bandwidth as a 3060 TI though with twice

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the amount of RAM which again could beely its um server Heritage the GPU at

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its heart is apparently based on their Chan Shia architecture Andy's not here

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to help me with the pronunciation though so that could be way off this feels so

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naughty as a member of the hated Western media I'm not supposed to be playing

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with this thing at least not yet o it does have RGB it's kind of pretty oh

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right and it has AI cores as well kind of like NVIDIA's tensor cor though

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exactly what we can do with them we're not sure yet these Chinese gpus are

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making me

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thirsty a yawn response it was a good

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time TT store.com that's it it's up I

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don't know why but I expected this to require a little bit more faffing about

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well there was some minor faf before you came here I don't know why I'm so

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surprised I mean obviously if it didn't display a Windows desktop they wouldn't

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ship the thing you'd think right but but it just works 120 HZ it only actually

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supports 17 motherboards total they

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actually only sell it in a bundle because they're so worried about people

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buying the card and then not being able to run it so we tried it in other boards

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and it just it's not a validation thing it just doesn't it it doesn't appear we

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were very thankful that we had one in stock of the ones that they supported

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does it support HDR there does not appear to be any HDR support it's not in

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English I think I can infer a lot of this though GPU clock GPU usage GPU

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temperature it's quiet

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is oh man I just immediately want to go off-road Okay I lied I want

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what's aav1 I've only got SVT av1 and a av1

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well I've got x264 but that's CP so I I guess typically it would show like

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NVIDIA nank or something yeah and it or Intel av1 we here we'll see if the usage

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goes up okay well the encoder is there

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but it's not supported at least by OBS at this time this might actually have um

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screen cap in it I know it has overlays let's Control Alt

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a I saw a yellow thing FL flash up I wonder if that was screen recording okay

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well we know what that is that's gaming overlay or whatever

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screenshot oh so we just hold it down it's basically screen cap okay so I need

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let's get into a game what game do you want to play I want to play League of Legends really you do well I just assume

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that this is going to be a beast for League of Legends

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cuz that's like the most popular game in China yeah do you want to try anything

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more modern like Shadow the tomb ra is a good place to start everything runs on Shadow the Tomb Raider sure it's good we

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don't have a doom Eternal cuz the the demons are chin demons so we could J

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really what oh shut

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up no support for direct X12 my

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resolution drop down has very few options uh I guess we'll go with 4K oh I

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wonder if their scaler sucks and my monitor refresh rate options are super

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weird 24 okay 30 yeah 60 sure thing 82

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what are these refresh rates ooh see it

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it can barely even render this box my first more thread gaming exper oh this

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is okay I can tell from your face this is as far as it goes isn't it yeah oh

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it's completely locked up die here's the situation aside from supporting only 17

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motherboards it also only supports

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direct X9 games with some direct X11

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games and this is in large part thanks to its lack of tessellation support I

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mean it booted really fast they actually just added 23 more games so back to my

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initial Instinct then can we find fire up League of legendss yes oh my God

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there's an update while you're doing that we'll compare it to this other system we have oh right there's a second

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system here I assume that has a like RTX 3060 in it that would be the spec for

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speec comparable it's a 1660 oh it's price comparable though

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okay well that gives me a different set of expectations with respect to

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Performance but then already it didn't run the first game of try to run look at

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all the things in this stupid dashboard

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that are not play the game start your Legend is not it play league is not it

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the game is temporarily unavailable okay am I an idiot or I actually I don't know

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either I don't know how to get this to open play DotA the superior MOA okay can

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you put the gaming overlay up uh contrl

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alt x no Windows key is not working

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control alt delete hey there we go how dare you it is totally control All Tex

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probably the game doesn't allow you to have overlays oh anti cheats I mean it's

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smooth I really wish I had an FPS counter right now but it's working it's

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at medium okay I'm setting it to very high

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still working still smooth how's your experience on this great actually I'm

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getting over 100 frames per second boys at 4K at 4K everything maxed out oh man

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I don't think it's that hard to run Le I'm going to get dead press F but I don't want to pay

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respects no it heals you I think look I don't play this game all right so

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there's things called creeps and there's like I know how the game fundamentally

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works there's more than one enemy hero that I have to fight it's stupid it's a

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team game not only is this running but it's been Rock Solid I don't see any

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graphical anomalies and it's actually really quiet all right

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time for some Counter Strike what are your settings just go through and make

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sure they're the same The Game just crashed so cool yeah maybe you should

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get a more more threads GPU you have more luck interesting fact that I

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learned is that the Bots are controlled by the GPU so having Bots actually

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affects your GPU results I thought they were CPU maybe that's why they're so

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dumb I get killed by Bots a lot in CS go

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all right you're playing counterterrorist

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oh this is not good that says 30 FPS but

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these frame times are extreme ex L inconsistent yeah it's pretty smooth for

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me I'm between like 160 to 200 yeah try

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looking at the ground there you go look at all those

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frames dang it I have to imagine that it's probably not designed with 4K in

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mind with that said if you have 16 gigs of vram and a high performance GPU it's

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not a big stretch to say oh well if performs well at 1080p it should also

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perform well at 4K I'm going to try switching to 1080 wait I can't can't

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remember my resolution drop down was borked and other stuff well I brought

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another monitor out for you oh my god really okay well let's at least set it

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oh I can't even set it above 60 wait why can't it but go above 60 this monitor

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can almost certainly do at least 120 over HDMI try this yeah let's try

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DP you nuked it monitor's doing stuff it

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it's it's it's having a think yay there we go it's not a good

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sign for your product that we're excited that it turns on at all 120 FPS on a

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two-dimensional splash screen the smoothness of the frame delivery is

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better what I suspect is that they basically just didn't test it at 4K at

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all this is a smooth 50 FPS whereas that

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was a dog crap 2530 the rough performance of this GPU

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kind of sits around uh the gt1030 which

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is a 30 watt card this card pulls about 250

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watts gt1030 is also $80 yeah more threads more like less

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frames there it is I got 300 FPS for a

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second there wow I'm at 90 right now in the tunnel yeah so it's the Bots

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interesting the hard part about making a CPU is that you're trying to make Hardware that can do everything mhm the

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hard part about making a GPU you're trying to make Hardware that matches

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these already established standards so you know what your Hardware is going to do but getting it to cooperate very

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challenging I was getting like 400 frames per second in the tutorial for a

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second there then this guy shows up I drop down to 130 I was so happy with my

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3 to 400 FPS he's getting 1,000 okay what what settings are you

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running at what settings are you running at okay I'm at I'm at very high let me

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let me set that I still at a th000 once again I'm at an eighth of the

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performance with double the power consumption it runs the game I mean

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that's impress it's better than I could do Team Fortress 2 let's go I want to

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see if it glitches that's all I need to know I know it used to be so good I it

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started going downhill for me when they started having different weaps and stuff yeah it was flawlessly balanced there

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was some pretty bad balancing especially at the start and I think that you're a

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fanboy I'm not a fanboy it's actually legitimately so fair and it's because of

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the size of the teams that allows for like kind of offside battles as well as

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like the sheer variety of weapon combinations makes it so that there's

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why don't you write a little poem about it dude I probably have already it's

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obviously not getting the kind of performance that I would get out of a base tier NVIDIA GPU but I'm anywhere

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from 70 to 100 FPS even in a

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firefight that's not great look now when

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we tried games that were not on the supported list was it just universally

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not compatible like factorio is that supported no oh but you get a lot of

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these they're making driver checks and calls at the start yeah and they'll just

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be like nope so it's fairly crap then yeah it's basically garbage I mean I

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couldn't build one but then I haven't likely stolen a bunch of Ip from NVIDIA

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took them two years to make a GPU and you three years to make a screwdriver

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yeah thanks for that Adam that's really helpful oh here we go oh interesting

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they went and they created a custom

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connector here so that they can carry all of these pwm signals and 12vt power

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to the fans separately this 8 Pin EPS power connector passes through to a four

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pin does it even actually draw 250 Watts

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or whatever it's we saw it drawing 250 oh but they're actually doing it through

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a four pin plus the 75 Watts from the

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slot uh okay all the vrms are along the

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top edge of the board I don't think I've ever seen that before this is a little

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like grounding tab for the cooler

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Samsung memory chips I mean they're labeled Sam

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it's definitely a more threads die though what a curious product on the one

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hand it supports the latest standards but on the other hand it barely works

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you know if you were wondering if there's any Merit to it outside of

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gaming unfortunately we weren't able to test AI maybe that's part of their play

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since right now China's having a hard time getting their hands on powerful AI

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accelerators but if the AI performance is anything like productivity

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performance let's just say the lack of a 7-Day no question questions asked return

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policy is not a big surprise to us so

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why is it bad unlike CPUs there are very

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few options for open or licensable GPU

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architectures the biggest players all like to keep their secret sauce firmly

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in their Satchel meaning that more threads had to design their architecture

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from the ground up or well I mean they probably didn't even if you possess

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considerable knowledge and funding making your own architecture iterating

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on that putting it into to a board and shipping it could easily take 10 years

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let alone too and this is just their first consumer GPU more threads have

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already released several Enterprise gpus meaning something is a miss here and

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that's where we got to kind of pull the sheets off of China's big secret this

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isn't quite a fully Chinese GPU Korean

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Tech Channel bull Labs did some digging and noticed that the company actually

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licensed IP from imagination technology IES the company that owns the power VR

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architecture you might have heard from them from when they helped make gpus for

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Apple in the days of the early iPhones and iPads now lots of companies license

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IP from others I mean all of Apple's impressive M series chips are based on

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ARM but they also don't claim to be all

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American chips except technically

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imagination Technologies is owned by Canyon Bridge Capital Partners who are

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in turn funded by the Chinese central government making this

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well technically a Chinese GPU now China

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understands the disadvantages of needing to lean on the rest of the world for their chips that's why the Chinese

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government announced they were investing $1.4 trillion dollar into Tech in 2020

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making Biden's government's 53 billion

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chips act look like walking around money and while more threads is the most

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prominent player that we've seen at least over here in the west China's not

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putting all their eggs in one basket and actually has numerous GPU projects and

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companies on the go so then does this mean we're going to see

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ripping fast Chinese gpus in just a couple more years probably not I mean

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first off tensions between China and the US are pretty high right now we've seen

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the Huawei ban a potential Tik Tock ban and Joey B cracking down on Chinese

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access to Western designed gpus from the likes of NVIDIA not to mention important

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semiconductor IP so there is a chance that these gpus may actually never end

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up being sold in North America though that could be a bit of an advantage for

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them because it would mean that the was that big leak of NVIDIA IP a little

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while back they could utilize some of

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the things they found without worrying about any kind of import restrictions on

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top of that the Chinese government seems more interested in limiting gaming

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performance than investing in gaming Hardware so it's likely that this is

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more of an AI play than a gaming Play Nothing is for certain though right now

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except that this card totally sucks and even if you have access to it you

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shouldn't buy it and that I have this message to tell you about from our

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from I'd be interested to see what a new one looks like