WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.519 it comes as no surprise to me that when a Walkman yes the brand new Sony 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:10.019 walkmans from 2023 came to our little 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:16.139 ShortCircuit shelf that the most excited person about these was Linus and 00:00:13.559 --> 00:00:19.920 that's because he's you know old and you might look at me and be like well you're 00:00:18.119 --> 00:00:24.300 too young to have enjoyed a walk man but I had two older brothers and I only ever 00:00:21.660 --> 00:00:29.279 got hand-me-down so I rocked a CD Walkman until I was like 14 and I got an 00:00:27.180 --> 00:00:35.579 iPod Touch for Christmas and I kept that iPod Touch for many many years and 00:00:32.820 --> 00:00:39.480 mother's iPod touch okay but yeah this is 00:00:37.020 --> 00:00:43.079 strange product it doesn't like 00:00:40.680 --> 00:00:49.340 you know an OG Walkman obviously they're not going to release something that uses 00:00:44.760 --> 00:00:52.860 CDs in 2023 but this is the NW 00:00:49.340 --> 00:00:54.600 zx707 it's an Android based Walkman 00:00:52.860 --> 00:00:58.680 so it's it's probably just kind of like an Android phone without a SIM card with 00:00:57.059 --> 00:01:04.799 really good audio that's hopefully what it is 00:01:01.760 --> 00:01:06.780 holy crap that looks pretty premium yeah 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:11.580 I mean on the outside whoa there's a lot of media controls there 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:16.560 we got some we got a hold button I don't know what that does 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:19.500 oh it's any idea holds for audio like it 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:23.460 holds the current track Maybe oh it's almost like it should just say 00:01:21.659 --> 00:01:27.960 lock oh we got a forward we gotta play a 00:01:25.619 --> 00:01:32.100 pause we got it back we got a volume down and up and a power button are these 00:01:30.420 --> 00:01:37.439 okay they're ever so slightly different size it would be hard to reference which 00:01:35.820 --> 00:01:43.079 button you were clicking in your pocket you can put texture on things you know 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:48.000 there is little bumps but I don't know if that's enough to really get the vibe 00:01:45.900 --> 00:01:52.680 now there's a Micro SD slot on this side and then on the top we have the balanced 00:01:50.700 --> 00:01:56.040 output along with just a normal 3.5 millimeter so you probably want to use 00:01:53.880 --> 00:02:01.439 the balanced one if you have headphones that support it on the bottom type c 00:01:58.500 --> 00:02:05.280 charging that's good and a little like hanger thing so you could have like a 00:02:03.000 --> 00:02:11.160 little wrist strap on it which is which is cool it's really square and 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:13.860 it's got really harsh edges it looks and 00:02:11.160 --> 00:02:17.280 feels premium but also kind of feels I don't know uncomfortable I guess the 00:02:15.720 --> 00:02:20.879 leather on the back is nice and it does have the little Walkman logo Walkman 00:02:19.440 --> 00:02:24.780 Walkman I'm just gonna keep saying Walkman just so just to bug people so 00:02:23.459 --> 00:02:29.580 maybe this guy the NWA 306 which is the cheaper version 00:02:27.780 --> 00:02:34.800 the packaging on this one is definitely not as I hate these things 00:02:32.640 --> 00:02:39.599 not as premium but we still got the cellophane wrap oh 00:02:37.020 --> 00:02:46.260 wow it's much smaller look at that hey another one of these wonderful Sony 00:02:42.780 --> 00:02:48.480 branded cables it is I identical cool I 00:02:46.260 --> 00:02:52.800 like the pocket ability of this I mean this is almost just the size of a wallet 00:02:51.180 --> 00:02:56.640 it's the same size as this cute little bellroy wallet I have which is about the 00:02:55.140 --> 00:03:02.160 same size as a credit card nice form factor on this one for sure the buttons 00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:03.840 same deal it's actually all the exact 00:03:02.160 --> 00:03:07.560 same but these ones see look they had the foresight on these ones to make the 00:03:05.459 --> 00:03:11.220 the volume buttons a little different so when you're feeling 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:15.180 I can feel that that one is distinctly larger and I know that that's volume and 00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:19.500 these ones are just other although the power button being on the end here I 00:03:17.580 --> 00:03:23.040 could have gone for a power button on the other side maybe just so you don't 00:03:21.420 --> 00:03:26.519 accidentally hit it this guy also has micro SD 00:03:24.959 --> 00:03:30.659 type c a little spot for a hanger and then down 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:33.480 here is the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack so it's not gonna be a balanced 00:03:31.860 --> 00:03:38.040 output on this one just looking at the specs of these things on the Sony 00:03:35.340 --> 00:03:42.120 website they all have the same supported audio playback codec so like all of the 00:03:40.260 --> 00:03:46.560 same bit rates all the same codecs are supported they have the same amount of 00:03:43.920 --> 00:03:51.540 Maximum output power on both the 3.5 mils and the balanced output they both 00:03:49.379 --> 00:03:55.980 can do USB DAC mode which is you plug it into your computer and just use it as a 00:03:53.459 --> 00:04:00.420 DAC man there's not a lot of specs wise visible differences they 00:03:58.799 --> 00:04:03.599 don't mention how big the battery is on these it just says rechargeable lithium 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:08.099 ion battery if using Bluetooth headphones with the lbac codec you're 00:04:05.700 --> 00:04:12.780 going to be at around 11 hours and then with SPC you can get around 22 hours 00:04:10.760 --> 00:04:17.699 interestingly enough the smaller one seems to have much better battery life 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:22.979 if you're just listening to 128 kilobit MP3s which I imagine you're not if using 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:25.979 a device like this you get 25 hours on 00:04:22.979 --> 00:04:28.800 the big expensive one and 36 hours on 00:04:25.979 --> 00:04:34.500 the smaller cheaper one kind of weird this thing is massive 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:37.199 the room for a bigger battery I know part of it being bigger is they've 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:42.180 implemented a lot of you know kind of fancier components and there's a giant 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:46.020 like copper block inside here to to prevent EMF from the components on the 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:49.680 board interfering with the audio if this thing had crazy output power for like 00:04:47.940 --> 00:04:54.780 beefier headphones compared to this one I could kind of see that making sense 00:04:52.440 --> 00:04:58.440 but uh it's a bit weird one thing you could I guess say is this one has a much 00:04:56.400 --> 00:05:03.479 larger screen it seems like sound wise though many of the features about like 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:06.660 upscaling and remastering on the Fly and 00:05:03.479 --> 00:05:09.300 vinyl mode which Believe It or Not adds 00:05:06.660 --> 00:05:13.320 vinyl like artifacts to your digital music which is so stupid we'll have to 00:05:12.060 --> 00:05:17.460 see if they sound any different that's what I'm really curious about hey look 00:05:15.180 --> 00:05:21.000 they're on but before we look at them a message from our sponsored xsplit thanks 00:05:19.320 --> 00:05:24.660 to xsplit for sponsoring today's video exploit makes Advanced broadcasting and 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:28.259 video production tools for creators Gamers and businesses expert offers a 00:05:26.699 --> 00:05:32.160 wide range of products like broadcaster and vcam broadcaster allows the user to 00:05:30.419 --> 00:05:35.699 capture produce and stream high quality video content to popular platforms such 00:05:33.900 --> 00:05:39.360 as twitch and YouTube and vcam allows users to remove replace or blur their 00:05:37.740 --> 00:05:42.780 webcam background during a video call live stream 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00:06:22.979 --> 00:06:28.020 Walkman I guess if you already have a playlist set up it's not so bad but if 00:06:26.819 --> 00:06:33.360 you're trying to search for music on this thing regularly I could see the small screen being a bit of a problem in 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:37.620 terms of the responsiveness in a music apps this is Deezer 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:42.060 um it's pretty it's pretty cludgy I mean here's an 00:06:39.539 --> 00:06:44.240 iPhone after it's had a sec to load this one 00:06:45.419 --> 00:06:51.960 pretty bad I wouldn't say it's game breaking deal breaking but it's just a 00:06:50.220 --> 00:06:55.620 little weird you know clearly these aren't the Pinnacle of Android 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:59.220 performance I'm sure if we tried to play a game on it it would be real bad but uh 00:06:57.960 --> 00:07:04.080 it's more about the music so why don't we try that we have some exceptionally 00:07:01.440 --> 00:07:09.300 fancy headphones here but I don't know if this is gonna be able to drive them 00:07:06.419 --> 00:07:13.560 very well or at all these are the reference five something or other from 00:07:11.819 --> 00:07:16.800 Abyss they're like six thousand US Dollars they're planar magnetic which 00:07:15.180 --> 00:07:20.400 means by Design they're going to be pretty hard to run they need quite a bit 00:07:18.539 --> 00:07:23.639 of power worst case scenario for this device so I do have a couple other pairs 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:28.020 of headphones to try oh yes I forgot how these are the the 00:07:26.039 --> 00:07:32.039 Pinnacle of comfort smaller 00:07:29.580 --> 00:07:37.740 editor cut this I just want to plug them in I've I've given up on balanced at 00:07:34.620 --> 00:07:40.319 this point oh my God oh my God I can't 00:07:37.740 --> 00:07:45.360 use this thing oh this cannot drive these headphones it's 00:07:43.020 --> 00:07:49.800 so quiet I think if I had my smartphone right here turned at half volume it 00:07:47.819 --> 00:07:55.080 would be louder I'm only at 100 though it does go to 120. it's just barely 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:59.099 listenable to now hi Jake Sony what the hell 00:07:55.860 --> 00:08:00.960 that's a thing don't think about it okay 00:07:59.099 --> 00:08:06.960 I brought these as well these are also super hard to drive HD 800s that's right 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:09.500 so there that's at Absolute Maxwell This 00:08:06.960 --> 00:08:09.500 is max volume 00:08:12.660 --> 00:08:19.860 be fair these are like ridiculously hard to drive headphones it's so quiet but 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:24.419 it's very quiet the HD 800s are definitely still hard to drive 00:08:20.940 --> 00:08:26.160 headphones that's absolute maximum I 00:08:24.419 --> 00:08:29.759 would listen to that on the bus I you can't we can't really evaluate this with 00:08:27.900 --> 00:08:33.479 these headphones it's well that's a problem it's too much sauce for how 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:37.320 expensive this is I was kind of hoping it could push a little more power now 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:41.459 what I'm curious about is is it the same amount as this one because it says it is 00:08:39.060 --> 00:08:43.979 so we should see if they sound mostly the same yeah 00:08:43.979 --> 00:08:49.980 check the volume level excuse me don't let it be too you have to click OK and 00:08:48.300 --> 00:08:54.839 then it unlocks the volume so you can turn it back up 00:08:51.779 --> 00:08:56.399 that's louder what no way 00:08:54.839 --> 00:09:00.420 plug it into the other one I mean maybe there's some settings we haven't gone 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:04.200 into yet but it's louder ever so slightly okay now there's 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:07.459 nothing there's no like sound to boost or anything like that okay give me again 00:09:06.060 --> 00:09:12.200 and switch it back over quickly okay upside down all right ready okay yeah 00:09:13.019 --> 00:09:17.880 I locked it damn it yeah it does seem 00:09:16.620 --> 00:09:23.820 louder from the outside that's a couple DB lighter yeah that's uh that's weird very weird is 00:09:22.140 --> 00:09:27.420 there additional settings on this one that aren't on the more expensive one no 00:09:26.100 --> 00:09:30.779 that doesn't make sense no it doesn't look they're better Electronics in here 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:35.700 you should see the product page with louder is better Jake look at all these 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:38.459 buzzwords we got hold on hold on hold on 00:09:35.700 --> 00:09:43.019 large solid High polymer capacitors so like a normal capacitor we've got large 00:09:40.260 --> 00:09:45.720 coils we've got oxygen free copper blocks oh you got to say oxygen free 00:09:44.580 --> 00:09:52.980 copper that's what we acquire yeah we got oxygen free copper cable crystal oscillators everything has high quality 00:09:50.459 --> 00:09:56.700 solder containing gold even their Reflow solder contains gold it's a waste of 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:00.540 gold optimized circuit board layout but other than that the specs like all of 00:09:58.680 --> 00:10:05.580 the Kodak support the quality support between the two of them is the same this 00:10:02.700 --> 00:10:09.600 one gets like more battery life for some reason 00:10:06.540 --> 00:10:13.140 it's like 36 hours with a 128 kilobit 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:14.880 MP3 and this one is 25 like it's it's 00:10:13.140 --> 00:10:19.500 noticeably that's like 30 less it's unheard I wasn't expecting to run into 00:10:16.860 --> 00:10:23.279 this problem uh I was expecting these to be too loud 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:28.080 to be usable at least you know I want to try it with my phone 00:10:25.760 --> 00:10:34.620 you're joking no I want to see the comparable boxes Christ yeah I mean I do 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:37.019 have these uh Sony xm5s we can use these 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:39.660 with Bluetooth I'd say the volume is actually pretty similar between this and 00:10:38.640 --> 00:10:44.579 your phone which I guess kind of makes sense sort of um 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:49.079 but it sounded different you I think you should try it okay give me these play 00:10:46.740 --> 00:10:51.240 that again it does sound like better I think 00:10:50.040 --> 00:10:54.779 wait maybe let's check the settings that's imperceptively that's the same 00:10:53.399 --> 00:11:01.620 seems like the same now it might have just been that the quality was set differently before why did I prefer it 00:10:57.779 --> 00:11:03.060 when it was set lower then I don't know 00:11:01.620 --> 00:11:05.940 maybe you just can't drive these headphones properly this is a bit 00:11:04.680 --> 00:11:14.040 disappointing I'm gonna go see if there's any headphones I can just quickly borrow that could run 00:11:09.959 --> 00:11:16.260 like six sixes or 600 and now a moment 00:11:14.040 --> 00:11:19.339 with Dad the part of a show where Dan keeps the 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:26.579 audience buying headphones what will happen this week oh it's heavy 00:11:23.459 --> 00:11:29.220 let's find it you had enough room to put 00:11:26.579 --> 00:11:34.320 a quarter inch Jack on it why didn't why did you put a quarter inch Jack on it 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:36.000 this has been one time with Dad well 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:40.380 Jake goes to find headphones let's not do it at max volume just in case today 00:11:37.980 --> 00:11:44.160 it's capable you don't care about yours okay here's 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:48.660 like I'm I'm holding that headphone button down 00:11:46.560 --> 00:11:52.860 you see it keep going after I let go it's got lag in it all right I'm just 00:11:50.459 --> 00:11:55.680 gonna send it full volume same it's the same 00:11:53.940 --> 00:11:58.700 it totally sounds are you sure these aren't 300 ohm as well 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:02.060 just put them on your head 00:12:02.640 --> 00:12:08.579 go for it the 90 00:12:06.540 --> 00:12:13.440 that's Max how loud is it though 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:19.680 that's uh pretty loud that's pretty loud that's like I want to enjoy this song 00:12:16.140 --> 00:12:21.300 kind of volume long listening but like 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:27.779 that's kind of the volume that I would expect maybe this is like I'm intoxicated level 00:12:25.019 --> 00:12:32.160 of volume yeah like oh you messed me up but I don't know that's 00:12:30.300 --> 00:12:36.000 kind of where I would think a hundred should be and then you have 100 I can't 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:39.540 hear you at all I know yeah it's good you're nice and isolated what is the 00:12:37.800 --> 00:12:48.360 impedance of these I don't know like five five oh yes thanks Dan 38 38. okay all 00:12:46.139 --> 00:12:52.440 right it's too bad because otherwise it's a cool looking device I mean the 00:12:49.860 --> 00:12:57.420 sound sounds good but you can't even really push headphones far enough to to 00:12:54.540 --> 00:13:03.000 see how good they sound I guess they talk a lot about Bluetooth maybe that's 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:05.100 the vibe you want a Walkman for your 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:09.959 Bluetooth headphones should we should probably just try it at least right I 00:13:06.899 --> 00:13:11.459 guess I don't wanna listen to music 00:13:09.959 --> 00:13:18.839 quietly it popped up there we go holy 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:22.680 God damn it just I love current gear don't you I would 00:13:20.820 --> 00:13:25.760 like to click 17 different prompts before I can use this app 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:32.100 sounds like Bluetooth headphones sounds like music this is kind of a hard one 00:13:30.779 --> 00:13:38.040 because I mean from a from a value standpoint if 00:13:35.880 --> 00:13:43.680 this device maybe it is clearer audio but it's kind of indiscernible from your 00:13:41.880 --> 00:13:48.060 smartphone in terms of quality because it can't push headphones enough to 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:51.420 really see I don't know if there's kind of any reason to buy these so it's kind 00:13:50.579 --> 00:13:57.300 of it's kind of lame for 900 and 350 I mean 00:13:55.380 --> 00:13:59.639 maybe this if you're like one of those people that doesn't like to carry around 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:05.339 a smartphone but you still want to listen to music I don't know 00:14:01.740 --> 00:14:07.200 so overall you got some thoughts 900 is 00:14:05.339 --> 00:14:12.060 a lot of money for okay ignore this one let's say you're a 350 one this one's 00:14:09.420 --> 00:14:16.320 louder anyways yeah a little bit uh I don't know for 350 bucks 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:19.500 it can't even drive the headphones that I wanted to it's not like I'm gonna use 00:14:17.880 --> 00:14:22.860 Bluetooth with it because the digital to analog conversion is no longer happening 00:14:21.300 --> 00:14:29.639 on that device it's happening on my headphones so why do I need a DAC in the 00:14:26.579 --> 00:14:31.800 unit if it's not even gonna get used and 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:34.920 it seems to struggle with volume I'm sure the interface is fine but it's just 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:39.720 Android it's a little slow seems sluggish yeah it doesn't do anything 00:14:36.540 --> 00:14:42.120 that my phone can't do it seems like the 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:46.680 only use case I can conceivably think of for a product like this is to sell it to 00:14:44.160 --> 00:14:50.699 people who have too much money or for people that don't want to carry around a 00:14:48.540 --> 00:14:54.480 phone I can understand trying to go a little bit you know less plugged in all 00:14:53.100 --> 00:15:00.060 the time which is funny because you're going to plug in music okay to be clear I mean the 800s and the 650s are not 00:14:58.560 --> 00:15:04.139 easy to drive headphones but they're also not the hardest to drive headphones 00:15:01.920 --> 00:15:08.160 either no um if you're running planar magnetics don't buy this 00:15:05.940 --> 00:15:13.320 if you're running anything other than like m50x's don't buy this I would even 00:15:10.980 --> 00:15:18.300 say it m50x probably don't buy 10 ohm headphones maybe buy a cheap Android 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:20.399 smartphone and turn cellular off God 00:15:18.300 --> 00:15:25.920 it's just this is such a like an enigma it's like high high quality so 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:29.399 disappointed it's a high quality DAC but with not enough amp to run it on high 00:15:28.019 --> 00:15:34.199 quality enough headphones that you could appreciate the deck yeah well it's a few 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:38.160 days later now and we've made some interesting to say the least discoveries 00:15:36.420 --> 00:15:41.760 after shooting the first part of this video and kind of coming to the 00:15:39.779 --> 00:15:44.940 conclusion that this thing was like ah just not enough power right I was 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:49.500 looking through the manuals and found mention of a high gain mode but we 00:15:47.940 --> 00:15:53.160 didn't really see that during the shoot and I actually went and checked on the 00:15:51.240 --> 00:15:57.600 devices after the fact and there is no visible High Gain mode anywhere in the 00:15:55.199 --> 00:16:01.620 settings or the volume app there's also no mention of it on Sony's website in 00:16:00.060 --> 00:16:05.639 the specs page for either of those devices except if you go to the Sony 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:10.320 Asia website for the same products then it shows you can double the output power 00:16:08.100 --> 00:16:14.820 of both the 3.5 mil Jack and the balanced output in High Gain mode on the 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:19.920 same devices why you can't access this in North America I don't know but the 00:16:17.220 --> 00:16:24.600 really sus thing I just checked out the signature series version that's like 3 00:16:21.959 --> 00:16:29.820 600 US dollars with Adam well that one has High Gain mode it's in North America 00:16:26.820 --> 00:16:31.800 on the Sony USA website it shows High 00:16:29.820 --> 00:16:37.320 Gain mode so the only thing I can conceivably see here is that they are 00:16:34.199 --> 00:16:39.779 purposely limiting these devices to make 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:43.259 their really expensive one seem more appealing 00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:47.100 this one is already expensive it's over a thousand dollars but I guess if you 00:16:45.540 --> 00:16:51.959 want to use headphones that are any good with it you have to buy the 3600 one I 00:16:50.339 --> 00:16:55.199 don't know why they do this I guess my conclusion is you just shouldn't buy 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:59.579 these things unless you listen on really really easy to drive headphones in which 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:03.060 case you should probably just use your smartphone I really don't see a 00:17:01.380 --> 00:17:07.799 situation where you should buy either of these devices it's just mind-boggling 00:17:05.520 --> 00:17:11.880 that they would purposely limit them especially considering that the hardware 00:17:09.600 --> 00:17:15.720 can do that sort of output I don't think you should buy these they're kind of 00:17:13.919 --> 00:17:18.720 slow in Android they can't really power any headphones that are reasonable it's 00:17:17.939 --> 00:17:23.540 just I don't really know why it exists it's 00:17:20.939 --> 00:17:29.580 kind of making the the legendary Walkman disappointing I'm I'm not very nostalgic 00:17:26.760 --> 00:17:36.660 anymore well if you guys like this video hit the like button if you didn't don't 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:39.120 get subscribed maybe check out the 00:17:36.660 --> 00:17:43.220 one of Adam's short circuits on some headphones because those are good either 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.220 way bye