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it comes as no surprise to me that when a Walkman yes the brand new Sony

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walkmans from 2023 came to our little

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ShortCircuit shelf that the most excited person about these was Linus and

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that's because he's you know old and you might look at me and be like well you're

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too young to have enjoyed a walk man but I had two older brothers and I only ever

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got hand-me-down so I rocked a CD Walkman until I was like 14 and I got an

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iPod Touch for Christmas and I kept that iPod Touch for many many years and

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mother's iPod touch okay but yeah this is

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strange product it doesn't like

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you know an OG Walkman obviously they're not going to release something that uses

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CDs in 2023 but this is the NW

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zx707 it's an Android based Walkman

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so it's it's probably just kind of like an Android phone without a SIM card with

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really good audio that's hopefully what it is

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holy crap that looks pretty premium yeah

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I mean on the outside whoa there's a lot of media controls there

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we got some we got a hold button I don't know what that does

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oh it's any idea holds for audio like it

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holds the current track Maybe oh it's almost like it should just say

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lock oh we got a forward we gotta play a

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pause we got it back we got a volume down and up and a power button are these

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okay they're ever so slightly different size it would be hard to reference which

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button you were clicking in your pocket you can put texture on things you know

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there is little bumps but I don't know if that's enough to really get the vibe

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now there's a Micro SD slot on this side and then on the top we have the balanced

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output along with just a normal 3.5 millimeter so you probably want to use

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the balanced one if you have headphones that support it on the bottom type c

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charging that's good and a little like hanger thing so you could have like a

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little wrist strap on it which is which is cool it's really square and

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it's got really harsh edges it looks and

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feels premium but also kind of feels I don't know uncomfortable I guess the

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leather on the back is nice and it does have the little Walkman logo Walkman

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Walkman I'm just gonna keep saying Walkman just so just to bug people so

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maybe this guy the NWA 306 which is the cheaper version

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the packaging on this one is definitely not as I hate these things

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not as premium but we still got the cellophane wrap oh

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wow it's much smaller look at that hey another one of these wonderful Sony

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branded cables it is I identical cool I

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like the pocket ability of this I mean this is almost just the size of a wallet

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it's the same size as this cute little bellroy wallet I have which is about the

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same size as a credit card nice form factor on this one for sure the buttons

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same deal it's actually all the exact

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same but these ones see look they had the foresight on these ones to make the

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the volume buttons a little different so when you're feeling

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I can feel that that one is distinctly larger and I know that that's volume and

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these ones are just other although the power button being on the end here I

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could have gone for a power button on the other side maybe just so you don't

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accidentally hit it this guy also has micro SD

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type c a little spot for a hanger and then down

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here is the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack so it's not gonna be a balanced

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output on this one just looking at the specs of these things on the Sony

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website they all have the same supported audio playback codec so like all of the

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same bit rates all the same codecs are supported they have the same amount of

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Maximum output power on both the 3.5 mils and the balanced output they both

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can do USB DAC mode which is you plug it into your computer and just use it as a

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DAC man there's not a lot of specs wise visible differences they

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don't mention how big the battery is on these it just says rechargeable lithium

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ion battery if using Bluetooth headphones with the lbac codec you're

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going to be at around 11 hours and then with SPC you can get around 22 hours

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interestingly enough the smaller one seems to have much better battery life

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if you're just listening to 128 kilobit MP3s which I imagine you're not if using

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a device like this you get 25 hours on

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the big expensive one and 36 hours on

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the smaller cheaper one kind of weird this thing is massive

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the room for a bigger battery I know part of it being bigger is they've

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implemented a lot of you know kind of fancier components and there's a giant

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like copper block inside here to to prevent EMF from the components on the

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board interfering with the audio if this thing had crazy output power for like

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beefier headphones compared to this one I could kind of see that making sense

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but uh it's a bit weird one thing you could I guess say is this one has a much

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larger screen it seems like sound wise though many of the features about like

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upscaling and remastering on the Fly and

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vinyl mode which Believe It or Not adds

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vinyl like artifacts to your digital music which is so stupid we'll have to

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see if they sound any different that's what I'm really curious about hey look

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off your first purchase or subscription nice okay that looks like pretty stock

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Android push the oh my God this one is so little so for scale here's an iPhone

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13 Pro Max this is a very small device I

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mean it's credit card size for real right off the bat in terms of

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responsiveness not the greatest I guess this one is really cheap so it's it's

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not that bad but this one is is really expensive

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so it's it's more bad oh my God this one

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is so little I can't get over this it's like

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this is like the prison version of a

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Walkman I guess if you already have a playlist set up it's not so bad but if

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you're trying to search for music on this thing regularly I could see the small screen being a bit of a problem in

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terms of the responsiveness in a music apps this is Deezer

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um it's pretty it's pretty cludgy I mean here's an

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iPhone after it's had a sec to load this one

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pretty bad I wouldn't say it's game breaking deal breaking but it's just a

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little weird you know clearly these aren't the Pinnacle of Android

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performance I'm sure if we tried to play a game on it it would be real bad but uh

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it's more about the music so why don't we try that we have some exceptionally

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fancy headphones here but I don't know if this is gonna be able to drive them

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very well or at all these are the reference five something or other from

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Abyss they're like six thousand US Dollars they're planar magnetic which

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means by Design they're going to be pretty hard to run they need quite a bit

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of power worst case scenario for this device so I do have a couple other pairs

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of headphones to try oh yes I forgot how these are the the

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Pinnacle of comfort smaller

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editor cut this I just want to plug them in I've I've given up on balanced at

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this point oh my God oh my God I can't

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use this thing oh this cannot drive these headphones it's

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so quiet I think if I had my smartphone right here turned at half volume it

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would be louder I'm only at 100 though it does go to 120. it's just barely

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listenable to now hi Jake Sony what the hell

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that's a thing don't think about it okay

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I brought these as well these are also super hard to drive HD 800s that's right

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so there that's at Absolute Maxwell This

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is max volume

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be fair these are like ridiculously hard to drive headphones it's so quiet but

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it's very quiet the HD 800s are definitely still hard to drive

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headphones that's absolute maximum I

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would listen to that on the bus I you can't we can't really evaluate this with

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these headphones it's well that's a problem it's too much sauce for how

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expensive this is I was kind of hoping it could push a little more power now

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what I'm curious about is is it the same amount as this one because it says it is

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so we should see if they sound mostly the same yeah

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check the volume level excuse me don't let it be too you have to click OK and

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then it unlocks the volume so you can turn it back up

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that's louder what no way

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plug it into the other one I mean maybe there's some settings we haven't gone

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into yet but it's louder ever so slightly okay now there's

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nothing there's no like sound to boost or anything like that okay give me again

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and switch it back over quickly okay upside down all right ready okay yeah

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I locked it damn it yeah it does seem

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louder from the outside that's a couple DB lighter yeah that's uh that's weird very weird is

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there additional settings on this one that aren't on the more expensive one no

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that doesn't make sense no it doesn't look they're better Electronics in here

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you should see the product page with louder is better Jake look at all these

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buzzwords we got hold on hold on hold on

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large solid High polymer capacitors so like a normal capacitor we've got large

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coils we've got oxygen free copper blocks oh you got to say oxygen free

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copper that's what we acquire yeah we got oxygen free copper cable crystal oscillators everything has high quality

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solder containing gold even their Reflow solder contains gold it's a waste of

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gold optimized circuit board layout but other than that the specs like all of

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the Kodak support the quality support between the two of them is the same this

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one gets like more battery life for some reason

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it's like 36 hours with a 128 kilobit

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MP3 and this one is 25 like it's it's

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noticeably that's like 30 less it's unheard I wasn't expecting to run into

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this problem uh I was expecting these to be too loud

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to be usable at least you know I want to try it with my phone

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you're joking no I want to see the comparable boxes Christ yeah I mean I do

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have these uh Sony xm5s we can use these

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with Bluetooth I'd say the volume is actually pretty similar between this and

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your phone which I guess kind of makes sense sort of um

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but it sounded different you I think you should try it okay give me these play

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that again it does sound like better I think

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wait maybe let's check the settings that's imperceptively that's the same

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seems like the same now it might have just been that the quality was set differently before why did I prefer it

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when it was set lower then I don't know

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maybe you just can't drive these headphones properly this is a bit

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disappointing I'm gonna go see if there's any headphones I can just quickly borrow that could run

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like six sixes or 600 and now a moment

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with Dad the part of a show where Dan keeps the

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audience buying headphones what will happen this week oh it's heavy

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let's find it you had enough room to put

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a quarter inch Jack on it why didn't why did you put a quarter inch Jack on it

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this has been one time with Dad well

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Jake goes to find headphones let's not do it at max volume just in case today

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it's capable you don't care about yours okay here's

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like I'm I'm holding that headphone button down

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you see it keep going after I let go it's got lag in it all right I'm just

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gonna send it full volume same it's the same

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it totally sounds are you sure these aren't 300 ohm as well

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just put them on your head

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go for it the 90

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that's Max how loud is it though

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that's uh pretty loud that's pretty loud that's like I want to enjoy this song

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kind of volume long listening but like

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that's kind of the volume that I would expect maybe this is like I'm intoxicated level

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of volume yeah like oh you messed me up but I don't know that's

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kind of where I would think a hundred should be and then you have 100 I can't

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hear you at all I know yeah it's good you're nice and isolated what is the

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impedance of these I don't know like five five oh yes thanks Dan 38 38. okay all

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right it's too bad because otherwise it's a cool looking device I mean the

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sound sounds good but you can't even really push headphones far enough to to

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see how good they sound I guess they talk a lot about Bluetooth maybe that's

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the vibe you want a Walkman for your

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Bluetooth headphones should we should probably just try it at least right I

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guess I don't wanna listen to music

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quietly it popped up there we go holy

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God damn it just I love current gear don't you I would

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like to click 17 different prompts before I can use this app

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sounds like Bluetooth headphones sounds like music this is kind of a hard one

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because I mean from a from a value standpoint if

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this device maybe it is clearer audio but it's kind of indiscernible from your

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smartphone in terms of quality because it can't push headphones enough to

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really see I don't know if there's kind of any reason to buy these so it's kind

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of it's kind of lame for 900 and 350 I mean

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maybe this if you're like one of those people that doesn't like to carry around

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a smartphone but you still want to listen to music I don't know

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so overall you got some thoughts 900 is

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a lot of money for okay ignore this one let's say you're a 350 one this one's

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louder anyways yeah a little bit uh I don't know for 350 bucks

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it can't even drive the headphones that I wanted to it's not like I'm gonna use

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Bluetooth with it because the digital to analog conversion is no longer happening

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on that device it's happening on my headphones so why do I need a DAC in the

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unit if it's not even gonna get used and

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it seems to struggle with volume I'm sure the interface is fine but it's just

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Android it's a little slow seems sluggish yeah it doesn't do anything

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that my phone can't do it seems like the

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only use case I can conceivably think of for a product like this is to sell it to

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people who have too much money or for people that don't want to carry around a

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phone I can understand trying to go a little bit you know less plugged in all

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the time which is funny because you're going to plug in music okay to be clear I mean the 800s and the 650s are not

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easy to drive headphones but they're also not the hardest to drive headphones

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either no um if you're running planar magnetics don't buy this

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if you're running anything other than like m50x's don't buy this I would even

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say it m50x probably don't buy 10 ohm headphones maybe buy a cheap Android

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smartphone and turn cellular off God

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it's just this is such a like an enigma it's like high high quality so

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disappointed it's a high quality DAC but with not enough amp to run it on high

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quality enough headphones that you could appreciate the deck yeah well it's a few

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days later now and we've made some interesting to say the least discoveries

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after shooting the first part of this video and kind of coming to the

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conclusion that this thing was like ah just not enough power right I was

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looking through the manuals and found mention of a high gain mode but we

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didn't really see that during the shoot and I actually went and checked on the

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devices after the fact and there is no visible High Gain mode anywhere in the

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settings or the volume app there's also no mention of it on Sony's website in

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the specs page for either of those devices except if you go to the Sony

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Asia website for the same products then it shows you can double the output power

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of both the 3.5 mil Jack and the balanced output in High Gain mode on the

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same devices why you can't access this in North America I don't know but the

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really sus thing I just checked out the signature series version that's like 3

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600 US dollars with Adam well that one has High Gain mode it's in North America

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on the Sony USA website it shows High

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Gain mode so the only thing I can conceivably see here is that they are

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purposely limiting these devices to make

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their really expensive one seem more appealing

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this one is already expensive it's over a thousand dollars but I guess if you

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want to use headphones that are any good with it you have to buy the 3600 one I

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don't know why they do this I guess my conclusion is you just shouldn't buy

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these things unless you listen on really really easy to drive headphones in which

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case you should probably just use your smartphone I really don't see a

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situation where you should buy either of these devices it's just mind-boggling

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that they would purposely limit them especially considering that the hardware

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can do that sort of output I don't think you should buy these they're kind of

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slow in Android they can't really power any headphones that are reasonable it's

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just I don't really know why it exists it's

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kind of making the the legendary Walkman disappointing I'm I'm not very nostalgic

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anymore well if you guys like this video hit the like button if you didn't don't

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get subscribed maybe check out the

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one of Adam's short circuits on some headphones because those are good either

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way bye
