WEBVTT 00:00:00.030 --> 00:00:10.830 TV gaming most people think of it as just for console players or at least 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:14.009 they did NVIDIA at CES 2018 got the PC 00:00:10.830 --> 00:00:15.929 gaming world super excited about big 00:00:14.009 --> 00:00:23.789 screen gaming when they showed off their 65 inch big format gaming displays or 00:00:19.439 --> 00:00:26.369 BFG DS and then promptly gave the entire 00:00:23.789 --> 00:00:30.480 community a serious case of the blue balls when they announced that they 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:35.910 wouldn't be coming until sometime later this year well what if you don't want to 00:00:33.420 --> 00:00:41.640 wait until later this year good news because mostly under the radar there has 00:00:39.239 --> 00:00:47.550 been a way to get high refresh rate gaming in your living room on the 00:00:44.160 --> 00:00:51.210 big-screen TV for months the Vizio P 00:00:47.550 --> 00:00:55.920 series runs at 120 Hertz and you can buy 00:00:51.210 --> 00:00:59.100 one today but there are some compromises 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:01.230 so are they worth it or should you keep 00:00:59.100 --> 00:01:04.949 waiting world of warships is a free-to-play historical online combat 00:01:03.270 --> 00:01:08.549 game from wargaming featuring an exciting blend of action and strategic 00:01:06.930 --> 00:01:16.139 gameplay stay tuned later in the video for an exclusive offer 00:01:18.570 --> 00:01:23.710 so the 65-inch variant of is iou's 00:01:21.579 --> 00:01:28.539 flagship piece series behind me here uses a VA panel that means that you can 00:01:26.289 --> 00:01:34.509 expect good if not industry-leading viewing angles color gamut and overall 00:01:31.270 --> 00:01:36.909 image quality but and this is important 00:01:34.509 --> 00:01:42.759 for gamers it also means better pixel response times than a typical IPS and at 00:01:39.969 --> 00:01:48.959 normal viewing positions those other disadvantages melt away somewhat in 00:01:45.219 --> 00:01:52.119 light of its 120 Hertz capability so 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:54.250 it's pretty compelling at least on the 00:01:52.119 --> 00:02:00.220 surface but it still requires some further investigation high advertised TV 00:01:57.549 --> 00:02:04.799 refresh rates are typically just motion interpolation an effect that 00:02:02.470 --> 00:02:11.049 subjectively looks terrible and objectively introduces additional input 00:02:07.989 --> 00:02:14.890 leg so it's really bad for gaming but I 00:02:11.049 --> 00:02:17.200 mean the panel itself like many TVs 00:02:14.890 --> 00:02:23.579 today runs at a hundred and twenty Hertz natively so what that means is that if a 00:02:21.160 --> 00:02:27.940 manufacturer chooses to expose it separate from any motion compensation 00:02:25.540 --> 00:02:35.489 nonsense which by the way the P series doesn't have any way the TV can and will 00:02:31.750 --> 00:02:39.510 accept and display a true 00:02:35.489 --> 00:02:42.700 120 Hertz input with a catch 00:02:39.510 --> 00:02:46.090 HDMI 1.4 doesn't provide enough 00:02:42.700 --> 00:02:48.940 bandwidth to run 120 Hertz at our panels 00:02:46.090 --> 00:02:54.040 native 4k resolution so we're stuck at 1080p but I mean if you've ever played 00:02:51.880 --> 00:02:58.420 around with a retina resolution calculator you probably know that unless 00:02:56.650 --> 00:03:04.959 you've got eagle eyes the difference between 1080p and 4k on a 65 inch TV can 00:03:03.040 --> 00:03:10.209 be difficult to discern from further than about ten feet away so this might 00:03:07.690 --> 00:03:15.549 still be viable but we need to answer some questions first will 1080p to 4k 00:03:12.910 --> 00:03:20.220 scaling cause blur and quality degradation how is the input latency of 00:03:18.220 --> 00:03:25.299 this display in its various modes and what about the rest of its features so 00:03:23.500 --> 00:03:31.820 to answer we've grabbed our test bench and our 8k high frame rate red camera 00:03:28.690 --> 00:03:34.850 and a seat on the couch we started with 00:03:31.820 --> 00:03:37.190 our biggest problem with other TVs input 00:03:34.850 --> 00:03:42.070 latency and we're happy to report that at a hundred and twenty Hertz in game 00:03:39.110 --> 00:03:47.030 mode it was basically imperceptible subjectively speaking it was actually 00:03:44.210 --> 00:03:51.740 pretty close to other 120 Hertz displays that we've tested and using our makey 00:03:49.430 --> 00:03:57.080 makey we measured an average end-to-end delay of roughly 40 milliseconds 00:03:53.900 --> 00:03:59.300 regardless of game mode so it could be 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:04.940 better but it is definitely acceptable bumping up our resolution though we see 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:10.010 a jump to 78 milliseconds though it should be noted as well that this was 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:12.440 with game mode on and at 4k game mode 00:04:10.010 --> 00:04:18.410 did end up making a difference so this is still not too shabby for a TV and 00:04:14.810 --> 00:04:20.690 it's fine for casual games but to say we 00:04:18.410 --> 00:04:25.850 could tell the difference between high refresh rate mode and 4k would be an 00:04:23.630 --> 00:04:31.850 understatement as for image quality again it's pretty good it's not OLED but 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:36.140 it's blacks are deep and thanks to the hundred and twenty eight zones of local 00:04:33.590 --> 00:04:40.940 dimming contrast stays high even when it's dealing with small bright objects 00:04:37.820 --> 00:04:43.370 on a dark background the app experience 00:04:40.940 --> 00:04:48.350 is really cool it's got a built-in chromecast that Vizio is calling Smart 00:04:45.530 --> 00:04:53.540 cast and it pairs quickly with Bluetooth 4.0 and uses Wi-Fi to actually do 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:57.680 everything from powering the TV on and off to accessing all of its settings so 00:04:56.060 --> 00:05:04.280 fire up that app turn the sharpness setting to zero and for the most part 00:04:59.950 --> 00:05:07.910 enjoy your TV for the most part the 00:05:04.280 --> 00:05:10.250 scaler well it's not horrible but it's 00:05:07.910 --> 00:05:15.620 not gonna blow anybody away either it is certainly no M cable though with that 00:05:12.919 --> 00:05:19.730 said if you're using your TV with a PC as we're kind of proposing here you may 00:05:18.020 --> 00:05:24.669 actually prefer it that way since it does prevent the text anomalies that the 00:05:22.010 --> 00:05:30.320 M cable can produce in its current form now with five HDMI 's and a component 00:05:27.919 --> 00:05:35.990 input though we aren't stuck with PC gaming all the time modern consoles will 00:05:33.350 --> 00:05:41.030 run about like you'd expect so actually better than a typical 60 Hertz TV with 00:05:38.419 --> 00:05:46.940 high input lag but not as good as switching to 120 Hertz on a piece and as 00:05:43.850 --> 00:05:48.980 for retro content well at lower 00:05:46.940 --> 00:05:53.930 resolutions you'll see a big drop in quality as expected blurry text and 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:58.730 characters with no obvious way to improve it and unfortunately that 00:05:56.090 --> 00:06:04.100 sharpness function doesn't help it just puts a sharpest filter over top of it 00:06:01.070 --> 00:06:07.220 and as for 720 and 1080 P modes on a 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:10.670 super NT we actually got pretty clean 00:06:07.220 --> 00:06:12.680 results TLDR if you can pre scale your 00:06:10.670 --> 00:06:18.350 retro games you will actually get some pretty darn good results here and in 00:06:14.990 --> 00:06:20.810 fast 2d games it gets especially good if 00:06:18.350 --> 00:06:25.490 you enable the clear action back light strobing function this reduces visible 00:06:23.450 --> 00:06:31.760 motion blur at the cost of some brightness so bottom line then 00:06:28.840 --> 00:06:38.210 high-performance big-screen gaming what do you do well LG actually has a couple 00:06:34.430 --> 00:06:40.880 of OLED models the c7 and b7 that have 00:06:38.210 --> 00:06:46.370 this same 1080 120 Hertz functionality but I would recommend against gaming on 00:06:44.390 --> 00:06:52.130 oh let's not just those ones but in general because bright static on-screen 00:06:49.550 --> 00:06:57.590 elements like HUDs or speedometers are very very likely to cause permanent 00:06:54.860 --> 00:07:01.790 burnin bring your options then back to the P series here are waiting for 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:07.310 invidious partners like a soos with their BFG DS 00:07:03.580 --> 00:07:10.010 so with a BF GD you get variable refresh 00:07:07.310 --> 00:07:15.170 rate with G sync which is kind of a big deal you get 120 Hertz at full 4k 00:07:13.100 --> 00:07:20.180 resolution assuming you have the hardware to run it and you get even 00:07:17.420 --> 00:07:26.360 lower input leg with an NVIDIA shield console built in however with the Vizio 00:07:24.050 --> 00:07:31.430 you get instant gratification because it's available now a well above average 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:37.730 big-screen gaming experience and a pretty darn good TV overall also if my 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:43.790 speculation is anywhere near correct and I think it is you also get a price that 00:07:40.760 --> 00:07:46.450 is anywhere from one half to a third of 00:07:43.790 --> 00:07:51.860 what NVIDIA solution will costs so the P series is actually looking pretty 00:07:49.310 --> 00:07:56.870 darn good let us know in the comments which one you'd prefer thanks to 00:07:54.950 --> 00:08:01.520 wargaming for sponsoring this video world of warships is their free-to-play 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:07.220 historical online combat game that fuses strategy tactical gameplay and engaging 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:11.720 combat altogether you command a massive naval fleet including some of history's 00:08:08.900 --> 00:08:15.530 most iconic war vessels level up your important tech modules and prepare to 00:08:13.460 --> 00:08:19.850 dominate the oceans 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