WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:08.400 Let's begin with a story. Once upon a time, NVIDIA sunk a ton of time, money, 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:13.519 and industry goodwill into adopting not one but three new variants of GPU power 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:19.760 connectors over their last three generations of GPUs. Why so many 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:22.160 changes? Well, as we saw with the RTX 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:27.599 4090, when you adopt a brand new standard like 12volt high power and slam 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:31.320 37 amps through it, sometimes things get a little melty. 00:00:30.080 --> 00:00:38.960 That's why the RTX5090 was upgraded to a new and 00:00:34.559 --> 00:00:38.960 improved 12volt 2x6 connector 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:44.879 that What the heck? NVIDIA, people are 00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:50.719 paying thousands of dollars for these cards and they're still melting. Why is 00:00:48.879 --> 00:00:55.360 this happening? Actually, you know what? No, it doesn't matter right now. What 00:00:52.800 --> 00:01:00.879 matters is that Lionus Electrical Engineering Tips is here to fix it for 00:00:58.480 --> 00:01:00.879 you. 00:01:05.360 --> 00:01:14.880 All I need is a couple of these RC car battery connectors, a sacrificial 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:17.439 RTX5090, and a message from our sponsor, 00:01:14.880 --> 00:01:23.360 Silkland. Their durable nylon braided DP2.1 cables are DP80 VESA certified 00:01:20.720 --> 00:01:30.880 with UHBR20 and support transfer speeds of up to 80 Gbits per second with 4K 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:33.920 output at 240 Hz. uncompressed or 8K at 00:01:30.880 --> 00:01:35.600 60 uncompressed without DSC. Check them 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:39.840 out using our links in the description to give ourselves our best shot at 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:44.000 success. I've brought in some help from our fabrication team and from the lab. 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:47.520 So, let's talk through the plan really quick. Exactly what you said on Law. 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:51.840 Super Whisk says, "Why not just have a connector with two giant spades if it's 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:55.920 going to be that way on the inside?" Jab Five says, "The XT60 connector can do 30 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:59.040 amps at 500 volts." Yeah, why don't we just use that? 00:01:57.520 --> 00:02:05.439 That was a joke. Well, you should have said /s. Great. In a nutshell, then we 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:07.680 are going to be removing NVIDIA's 12volt 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:13.360 2x6 power connector, and we are going to be replacing it with a commodity XT 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:16.879 series power connector, specifically the XT120. 00:02:15.040 --> 00:02:22.879 Now, on the WAN Show, I had actually proposed using a smaller XT60 or XT90, 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:27.440 but as I learned from talking to Lucas, those amp rating numbers are actually 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:34.480 instantaneous rather than continuous. And uh, as we've seen, the 5090 can very 00:02:31.200 --> 00:02:36.400 much draw its 50 amps in a continuous 00:02:34.480 --> 00:02:40.239 manner, which is why we need to make sure that whatever we're doing actually 00:02:38.239 --> 00:02:44.800 makes the situation better rather than being another inadequate fix. And as I 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:50.400 learned already, I can't just trust this number on the side of the connector. So, is this good enough? Yeah. 60 amps 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:56.239 continuous or 120 uh instantaneous. Okay. So, total of 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:58.879 720 W. Y but that's not even the part 00:02:56.239 --> 00:03:05.760 that's most important to me though. What I like about this is it has a really 00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:08.480 robust feeling mating feel. Like once 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:12.400 that thing's in there, it's not going to get bumped by your side panel and just 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:17.280 wreck the whole thing, you know? Like that's on there. Certainly more 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:22.000 confidence inspiring than this. It even sounds 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:24.400 cheaper. Now the question is, how are we 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:27.519 going to attach this to this? Anyone torn one of these down yet? Uh, no. But 00:03:26.239 --> 00:03:31.680 we did chuck it in the CT scanner, though. Ah, excellent. That is not only 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:37.200 a good way for us to do a feasibility analysis, but also a way for us to see 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:42.720 the underlying design issue that seems to be causing the stock connector to 00:03:39.640 --> 00:03:46.000 overheat. If you look right here, while 00:03:42.720 --> 00:03:49.040 there are 12 pins, okay, six for 12vt 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:51.120 and six for ground, they don't actually 00:03:49.040 --> 00:03:56.159 connect to the board separately. They all go into this one strip of metal and 00:03:53.519 --> 00:04:02.480 connect to the board at a single point. That means that the card has no way of 00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:04.400 knowing if one or more of the pins has a 00:04:02.480 --> 00:04:08.400 poor connection, which will force the others to pick up the slack. To 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:12.480 demonstrate why this is such a problem, their power even went as far as to cut 00:04:10.720 --> 00:04:17.359 some of the wires on his power supply, which obviously caused the remaining 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:21.960 ones to heat up. Let's take it apart, shall we? This is the easy part. They 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:25.919 trust me to do this part. Oh, look at that. So many more 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:31.600 screws. And of course, it's a different head size because why wouldn't it be? 00:04:27.960 --> 00:04:34.720 Oh, that comes off next. Oh, look at 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.720 that. Look at her 00:04:35.320 --> 00:04:42.320 go. Wow. We might not even need to go 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:44.720 that deep. Feasibly. See? Go right 00:04:42.320 --> 00:04:49.120 there. There it is. The little blades. Feasibly we could attach our freaking 00:04:46.960 --> 00:04:54.160 wire to that right now. It's just that uh the clearances might be a little 00:04:51.400 --> 00:04:58.560 tough. Before we go too far though, I need to make one thing clear. NVIDIA 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:03.680 didn't design these problematic connectors. 12vt high power, which was 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:09.919 found on the 4090, was adopted as part of the ATX 3.0 spec back back in early 00:05:06.280 --> 00:05:11.759 2022. And the replacement 12vt 2x6 00:05:09.919 --> 00:05:18.160 connector, the one that shows up on the 5090, is part of ATX 3.1. It looks just 00:05:15.919 --> 00:05:22.800 like the old one, but it actually tweaks the length of the prongs in an attempt 00:05:20.320 --> 00:05:28.320 to prevent power from flowing through an improperly inserted cable. A uh 00:05:25.520 --> 00:05:33.479 mitigation that clearly isn't working. So, if NVIDIA didn't invent these 00:05:30.960 --> 00:05:39.600 connectors, then why are they taking so much heat over them? Well, it's because 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:43.840 they're the only GPU brand that's going all in on them. Not only were they so 00:05:42.080 --> 00:05:47.600 excited about these new connectors that they raced ahead of the rest of the 00:05:45.280 --> 00:05:52.160 class, using a proprietary version on the 30 series before the spec was even 00:05:49.840 --> 00:05:55.759 published, but they've also forced their board partners to go along with their 00:05:53.680 --> 00:06:01.280 shenanigans instead of allowing them to use old school 8 pin PCIe power 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:04.080 connectors if they like. But Lionus, you 00:06:01.280 --> 00:06:08.960 might say, I've got a 4090 and it's been totally fine. And you're right, lots of 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:15.520 people do. The 12volt high power connectors are fine in ideal conditions, 00:06:13.520 --> 00:06:19.840 but what if you're using a poorly made extension or adapter or jamming your 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:25.360 card into a narrow case which puts pressure on the power connector? Well, 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:31.199 now your ideal conditions have gone out the window. And as you can see in our CT 00:06:27.840 --> 00:06:33.120 scans, the card has no way of knowing if 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:38.759 some of your wires booked a one-way ticket to Melt Town. How you guys doing? 00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:44.479 Uh, so far so good. No. All right, buddy. We just solder 00:06:42.479 --> 00:06:49.440 straight to these and then we're G to G. I mean, yeah, we could. 00:06:47.840 --> 00:06:53.680 Hm. That size of wire on there looks like it could be a bit of a challenge. 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:57.919 Yeah. Yeah. It's not great if you want the pads to stay in one spot. My 00:06:55.440 --> 00:07:02.319 question for you then is why do we need such a big one? This seems like massive 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:07.440 overkill for a GPU, especially when you look at the wimpy little size of the 16 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:10.240 gauge wires that are running it already. Well, we have to make up for not having 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:15.919 six of them. They have about a similar surface area when you really get down to it. So, similar. Is it Is this actually 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:19.039 enough? It's maybe a little bit on the light side. We could go with a six 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:23.360 gauge, but, you know, fit the connectors. Our wire might actually get 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:27.199 a little bit on the warmer side, but at least our connector will meet properly. 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:32.000 Should be good. Here's my other question. 00:07:28.880 --> 00:07:33.680 If NVIDIA feels that a single 12volt and 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:38.160 a single ground connection to the board is fine, why did they reinvent the wheel 00:07:36.400 --> 00:07:42.400 instead of just using one of the numerous high amperage power connectors 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:48.240 that already exist that could have just gone to two thickle wires. We'll get to 00:07:45.840 --> 00:07:52.639 that later. First, let's rip that connector 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:58.319 off. Wow. I mean, they're definitely stronger together. Ape wire strong 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:02.360 together. Woo! See you later, buddy. That looks a lot thicker. Oh, maybe not. 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:07.599 And they're copper. Oh, hey, there it goes. Oh, wow. There's all that liquid 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:12.879 metal. Yeah, there it is. Wow, that's a lot of liquid metal. That is Well, they 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:17.759 didn't cheap out on that. The board is so tiny. Yeah, I know. All right, let's 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:22.960 rub our connector off. Super cool. I can't believe we're doing this. 00:08:21.039 --> 00:08:27.680 What do you think motivated them to just combine everything into just these 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:31.599 two bar bus? I mean, I would almost call it like a bus bar. Like, what would you 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:36.479 call these? I have rail or bus bar. Yeah, bus. Uh, sure. Why would they 00:08:33.599 --> 00:08:40.000 combine it into just two instead of, you know, grouping three pins and then the 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:43.519 next three or something like that? They did do like groups of three and some 00:08:41.760 --> 00:08:46.560 smaller groups on previous ones, but I think they just needed the whole all the 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:51.920 surface area they could get cuz even on the bottom you can see there's not much doesn't take much surface area of the 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:57.279 board and like the bottom of the rails. That's true. That is a really really 00:08:54.640 --> 00:09:00.640 small contact point for freaking like 50 amps, isn't it? If you ever try to split 00:08:58.640 --> 00:09:04.560 that into two and then run both those at 25, then they'd be smaller. Do you think 00:09:02.959 --> 00:09:10.720 this came down to them trying to make this board super small for the pass 00:09:06.640 --> 00:09:12.240 through cooler? I imagine so. Yeah. 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:16.640 Now it's time to start hacking off the connector. I'm going to do it also 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:20.640 carefully with uh a pair of snips here. You know we're going to hell for this, 00:09:17.920 --> 00:09:24.240 right? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Wait, what happened? How'd you knock off this pogo 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:27.839 pin? I'll be honest with you. I don't know. I just noticed it wasn't there. 00:09:25.680 --> 00:09:32.399 Oh, balls. Where's it come from? Right there. Oh, luckily for you, I feel 00:09:29.920 --> 00:09:36.640 pretty confident about putting it back. Hey, I soldered one of the CPU pins on 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:40.240 the broken CPUs. I got it back on. Okay. So glad this isn't like a for realies 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:45.279 thing cuz that would have been fired. Didn't fix the CPU mind you. Uh it 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.560 turned back on so I'd say I did. Okay. 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:51.680 Yeah, I think she's going here. Here. Here. Maybe pliers. You're using a 00:09:49.040 --> 00:09:56.080 cutting tool to pull. Oh, she's clean, bud. Yeah, I think that should give us 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:01.519 plenty of room. Right. Should be plenty of room to solder to. Okay. Do we uh 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:02.800 Well, we know which one's ground, right? 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:09.360 Yes. It's the one furthest away from the sense spin. Beautiful. 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:12.000 So this bad boy. Yeah. Ow. Damn it. I 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:16.360 stabbed myself. Okay. So without stabbing ourselves, I propose fins out 00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:21.839 like that and then goes on there. How the 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:27.200 hell are we going to do that? I think that's basically impossible. Okay, new 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:30.680 plan. That was my plan. We bend it. That That was my plan. 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:38.399 Use a pair of pliers towards the base gently. She'll be fine. So now we got 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:41.600 some room in there. It's not much, is it? Oh, it depends which way you look at 00:10:40.160 --> 00:10:44.480 it. I'm going to solder to that side probably and then that side. That way 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:48.720 they have no chance of meeting in the middle. So we've taken the Henry Ford 00:10:46.640 --> 00:10:52.880 approach to wire colors. You can have any you want as long as it's the one. 00:10:50.640 --> 00:10:58.079 Exactly. We're using red wires for both. Oh, 00:10:55.600 --> 00:11:01.440 good. How could we possibly get it mixed up? Okay. Is that the one that you're 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:06.399 planning to solder to the board or is that the other one? This is the one going to the board. Okay. I said six 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:10.240 inches long, though. It's a little uh I'm feeling a little inadequate looking 00:11:07.839 --> 00:11:13.920 at it. I bet you if you grab a ruler right now, that is six inches. I don't I 00:11:12.079 --> 00:11:19.040 don't use rulers. I use emotions to measure certain things. Ah, yes. 00:11:17.839 --> 00:11:22.880 We're not going to get the polarity mixed up with our two red wires, right? 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:27.120 No. One says positive, one says negative. Brilliant. As long as he 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:32.079 sticks to that, I'm positive that nothing negative will happen. 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:36.320 Yeah, you got the right idea. I can't believe we're doing this to this thing. 00:11:33.839 --> 00:11:39.600 Just so you guys know, our plan is not to like never use this again or 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:43.360 whatever. Like, this will still be in service. Just whenever we use it, we're 00:11:42.160 --> 00:11:49.279 going to have to use a bit of a special power supply. Hey, we should maybe start 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:54.440 working on that power cable. Wait, what is this? I told you guys I don't want to 00:11:51.519 --> 00:12:02.519 do that with the thing, guys. Come on. I mean, it's nicer 00:11:58.959 --> 00:12:02.519 than soldering it. 00:12:02.640 --> 00:12:09.880 It's so janky. This is so much worse than just 00:12:07.680 --> 00:12:14.480 soldering it all to the W. Anything I'll recommend crimps over 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:21.519 just soldering to another connector. The crimps are not the problem. The giant 00:12:18.800 --> 00:12:25.839 connectors here are the problem. This is what they want to do. They want to just 00:12:22.800 --> 00:12:28.240 put a bolt through all of this. So, why 00:12:25.839 --> 00:12:31.920 is crimping it better than soldering it? I've always wondered that too because 00:12:29.920 --> 00:12:36.240 far more structurally sound and not as brittle as solder. Basically, we have to 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:40.720 plug into our modular power supply somehow. So, we took the modular cable 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:46.000 that of course has a 12vt 2x6 on it, right? And then on the other end, we're 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:50.959 going to adapt that to just like two big chunks of 12vt and ground. But these 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:55.040 sense pins are needed for the power supply and the GPU to communicate their 00:12:52.880 --> 00:13:00.480 capabilities to each other. So, we were hoping to just use the original block of 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:02.880 sense pins and just plug them on. Um, 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:07.120 but I have to reattach them now because I cut them off earlier. Okay. I've got 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:09.680 the sense pins reassembled. Oh, nice. Is there anything that would prevent us 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:12.800 from putting the card back together? In theory, no. But just for as a last 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:17.680 sanity check here, let's just do a continuity check and make sure that those two ain't shortened before we send 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:22.440 a whole bunch of power through it. All right. All right. Beep equals bad. 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:30.560 Um, only a singular beep. Not two beeps. No beeps. We're good. 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:35.040 Okay. Good luck, everybody. Good luck, everybody. Doesn't look janky at all. 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:41.600 Yeah. Are we even going to have enough clearance for all of this crap? Oh, boy. 00:13:38.160 --> 00:13:43.279 Yep. Not enough clearance. Um, why not? 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:48.560 Well, because we might have bent things a lot. A little. I added like six inches 00:13:45.920 --> 00:13:53.440 of wire to the back end. Well, look, I'd like to see you do better. No, it 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:57.000 wouldn't happen. I think with the way I've bent it a little bit, lightly bent 00:13:55.519 --> 00:14:03.440 it, I think she goes. Oh, she's a goer, dude. She's a 00:14:00.160 --> 00:14:05.760 goer. Beautiful. Oh my god. Not 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:11.040 beautiful, but something. Oh my god. Okay. Well, uh, that's a thing that 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:15.680 exists now. This might be the worst thing we've ever done. Oh, come on. I 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:20.399 feel like for how often I say that, I'm going to need like a shirt. Glenn, are 00:14:17.199 --> 00:14:22.320 you getting this? Which one? This. Okay. 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:28.959 What the what? I didn't do this. I'm making it 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:31.040 safer. I blame Lucas 100%. He insisted 00:14:28.959 --> 00:14:36.160 that we not solder the eight wires to the one wire. He That would have looked 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:37.600 way worse. What? No way. I thought you 00:14:36.160 --> 00:14:43.120 people are supposed to be the adults in the room. What? You people? No, I don't 00:14:39.839 --> 00:14:44.720 I obviously I don't mean it like that. I 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:49.040 mean you people, the people who work here and are supposed to supervise me. 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:55.800 Just don't touch it anymore. It'll be fine. Anyone else getting like 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:55.800 a BDSM vibe from this? 00:14:56.160 --> 00:15:01.920 Clap it on there. Yeah. Sorry. This is 00:14:59.760 --> 00:15:05.680 so stupid. Okay. What am I checking? Sorry. Uh oh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:10.480 you. Okay. This is a lot of negatives. This 00:15:08.079 --> 00:15:16.240 is the worst thing we've ever done. Not yet. I mean, it hasn't died yet. Oh my 00:15:13.920 --> 00:15:23.040 god. As far as we're aware. Oh my god. 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:25.040 Good call. Now we take our sense pins 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:29.839 and Oh boy. Can I get in there? Oh yeah, I can get in there. Okay, sense pins are 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:36.720 connected. Now we just need to do our power connector and Oh wow, that's a 00:15:33.920 --> 00:15:40.639 that's a connection and a half. At least a connection and a third. I mean, she's 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:44.600 locked on there pretty good, right? Oh man, I'm not going to lie. I'm a little 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:49.040 stressed right now. Do you guys imagine for a second 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:52.480 that after what we did to this, NVIDIA is going to replace this for us if you 00:15:50.880 --> 00:15:57.199 know we need one? It's not like we could buy one easily. 00:15:55.839 --> 00:16:02.079 The fans are spinning. The lights are on. The lights are on. These are very 00:15:59.920 --> 00:16:05.079 good signs. Yes. 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:12.959 Oh, dude. It's fine. Okay, but we're not really drawing any power yet. So, I 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:16.800 guess we never explained the sense pins. Uh, these tell the G Oh, wait. Did I 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:20.959 explain that? I think I did. Well, whatever. The plan was to ground sense 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:24.880 zero and one, which will tell everything 600 W is fine, but we didn't do that cuz 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:29.959 our sense pins ended up working. Uh, blah blah blah blah blah. Test. Let's do 00:16:26.800 --> 00:16:33.160 it. Benchmark 00:16:29.959 --> 00:16:35.320 2160. What could go 00:16:33.160 --> 00:16:40.959 wrong? Uh oh, that was a little scary. Oh, I mean, 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:45.279 wasn't it when the screen went blank? I wasn't watching that screen. I thought it was a little scary. Okay, she's 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:52.079 squealing a little, but from my understanding, that's kind of normal for these Founders Editions. Wires are at 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:54.639 like 40 to 50. I mean, that's well 00:16:52.079 --> 00:17:00.560 within safe, right? Yep. Hold on. What What are these wires rated for? Come on, 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:09.640 people. It should be good for 80 or 90. 85. There we go. Huh. GPU temp 73. GPU 00:17:05.360 --> 00:17:14.000 clock 2.33 GHz. That's what we would 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:16.079 expect. Fans are working. GPU power 575 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:19.720 watts. How's the rest of the cable temp here? 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.439 30 there. Line his hand in the way there. 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:30.520 Well, I'm I'm checking. I'm checking. I'm using 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:30.520 Looks like a great connection to me. 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:37.600 There you go. So, does this go in your personal rig now? I mean, I don't see 00:17:35.520 --> 00:17:41.280 how anyone else could use it. So, yeah. Uh, no. I think the lab wants it back, 00:17:39.600 --> 00:17:47.360 actually, which is kind of hilarious. I don't know if they want this one back. You sure? Why not? It's perfectly fine. 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:51.360 Perfectly good. If anything, I would say it's safer than before. That's true. I 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:57.200 wouldn't say it with a lot of confidence, but I would say it. Yeah. 00:17:54.320 --> 00:18:01.360 So, it works. And sure, it's not standard, but NVIDIA has clearly 00:17:59.600 --> 00:18:05.919 demonstrated that when they throw their weight behind something, it quickly 00:18:03.679 --> 00:18:11.880 becomes a standard. So, after being stung once by these little piddly little 00:18:09.559 --> 00:18:16.880 connectors, why didn't they just do this? Well, there are a few reasons we 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:22.000 can think of, but the most important one probably is cost. It's always cost, 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:26.400 isn't it? Looking at some common bulk sources, the difference in price between 00:18:23.600 --> 00:18:31.360 the two connectors is realistically going to be pennies. So, what it seems 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:34.320 to come down to is the wire. Now 00:18:31.360 --> 00:18:39.120 technically NVIDIA doesn't need any wire to build their cards but anytime you 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:43.600 create an industry standard you have to consider everyone's perspective. And 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:50.480 when we looked at the difference in cost between 12 16 gauge conductors like we 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:52.320 have now versus two big fat 8 gauge 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:56.480 conductors of the same length. It was a bigger difference than we thought. And 00:18:53.919 --> 00:19:00.640 when you multiply that across all the thousands, millions of systems that are 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:04.960 being built worldwide, you start to understand why they want to go with 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:09.280 whatever the cheapest connector is. Not to mention that thinner conductors are 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:14.000 also more flexible for cable management and easier to work with in 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:16.080 manufacturing, etc., etc., etc. So, I 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:21.919 understand why they did it, but that doesn't mean that what we're dealing 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:25.440 with now is okay. So, what do we do? Are 00:19:21.919 --> 00:19:28.640 all 5090s just as dangerous? Well, as it 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:30.559 turns out, the answer is no. ASUS then 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:35.039 went as far as to assure us that their implementation allows per pin monitoring 00:19:33.280 --> 00:19:37.799 and even went as far as to create an in-game overlay to show that everything 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:43.360 is working fine. As for what to do if you already 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:45.520 bought a Founders Edition, 00:19:43.360 --> 00:19:49.039 uh, that I don't know, but I suspect that NVIDIA is going to have to do 00:19:47.120 --> 00:19:53.600 something about this given the potential for a user safety problem. 00:19:51.840 --> 00:19:57.880 Maybe they recommend people do this. Probably not. But you know what they 00:19:55.360 --> 00:20:02.160 might recommend is this segue to our sponsor, Squarespace. If you're running 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:06.320 a small business and are looking to create a website, but you lack the 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:09.919 technical expertise, Squarespace is here to help. 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