WEBVTT 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:05.920 and okay we're actually live this time 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:11.040 woo we got that going no problem no big deal not a thing yeah oh is a thing but 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:20.279 it's a it's an okay thing so we've got a great show for you guys today I'm here 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:22.840 Luke's here and uh John might be making 00:00:20.279 --> 00:00:28.320 an appearance really for one specific topic oh do we have another legal topic 00:00:26.080 --> 00:00:30.880 yeah oh I see you know those are actually some of the most interesting 00:00:29.439 --> 00:00:36.239 ones for me he'll go off on some where he's like 00:00:34.239 --> 00:00:42.039 I'll have some misconception or whatever and he'll go off he'll be like well 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:43.840 actually it works this way or in this 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:47.719 specific state or whatever it turns out that I got an education for a reason and 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:53.079 you probably should have gone to school and you know oh no I disagree with that 00:00:51.120 --> 00:00:57.120 for your specific use case not for everybody really okay you know what's 00:00:54.559 --> 00:01:04.799 funny is I actually had lunch with a local content producer yeah um earlier 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:06.960 this week like she she does like this 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:13.439 kind of vertically integrated content production for uh business professionals 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:15.560 okay that's like about stocks and like 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:21.040 business tips and stuff like that and apparently their program actually airs 00:01:18.240 --> 00:01:25.680 uh among other things on one of Fox's things like a fox business thing okay 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.159 and then also on like Air Canada flights like very old media yeah you know like 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:36.720 relationships with you know know National Airlines and like Network TV 00:01:34.399 --> 00:01:40.880 and um anyway so she wanted to have lunch I had no idea what she wanted uh 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:46.560 basically we did like a studio tour Taran was instructed by someone who 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:48.799 works with her doing some stuff over at 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:53.280 BCIT and the funny thing is Taran brought me into their studio so that I 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:57.960 could see how like a proper company does things and maybe we should have edit 00:01:55.759 --> 00:02:02.880 Suites and maybe we should have this and maybe we should have that and it turned 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:05.719 out that in much the same way as us they learned as they went and there were a 00:02:04.360 --> 00:02:10.920 lot of things they did better than us and there are a lot of things we do better than them so that was 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:14.400 enlightening and fun did they do edit Suites uh they do have edit Suites that 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:18.640 was what he wanted me to see what he didn't want me to see was all the other 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:26.160 kind of janky stuff like the fact that they literally have footage archived on 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:28.879 betas still whoa yeah but remember 00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:33.560 broadcast TV that was a thing but you'd think you'd move it a lot more recently 00:02:31.640 --> 00:02:39.680 where you would actually be submitting finished projects by mailing a beta mag 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:44.519 t or not a beta Max sorry it's like they were two different standards yeah like 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:48.640 the the the broadcast tape version and like the one that competed with VH 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:51.680 anyway the point the point is they still have like a sh and this is after they 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:56.920 cleaned up they have like a shelf of betas and I'm like You're great and uh I 00:02:55.519 --> 00:03:01.319 was telling them about the Vault and stuff and they're like yeah that would be pretty cool and Tan's like yeah yeah 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:05.400 that's pretty useful maybe I don't have an editing Suite but I do have that 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:10.560 anyway the point is um she asked me to have lunch with her and um she she 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:15.280 didn't really tell me what it was about it turned out she wanted me to talk some 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:19.599 sense into her son okay who had this idea in his head that he was going to he 00:03:17.920 --> 00:03:23.360 has two videos uploaded to YouTube and you know you probably get this all the 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:27.480 time too right people being like how do I be a successful YouTuber especially on 00:03:25.920 --> 00:03:31.879 my not to plug it but especially on my stream yeah especially on your streams 00:03:28.920 --> 00:03:35.360 cuz like you have which is hilarious because my stream sucks and like nobody 00:03:33.920 --> 00:03:40.080 watches it and people ask me how to be a successful streamer and I'm like you think I know I'm glad you said that 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:46.000 because I was going to crap on your stream a little bit yeah no it's ter I was going to be like yeah like and your 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:48.959 stream's not even that big or anything 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:53.480 and charity like but you have a lot more success streaming than like you know how 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:58.000 it's like the first thousand subscribers on YouTube is the hardest right you've 00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:02.599 passed that first handful of twitch subscribers never took a further step 00:04:00.040 --> 00:04:06.560 and phoned it in the rest of the way but you clearly know enough to know 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:11.799 a thing that people would ask you about it anyway so so usually when people ask 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:16.680 that question it starts with yeah I just uploaded my first video or I just did my 00:04:13.920 --> 00:04:21.799 first stream what would you recommend and the guy's like yeah so I want to do 00:04:18.799 --> 00:04:23.120 like a um like a fitness clothing line 00:04:21.799 --> 00:04:30.199 and I want to do like a fitness lifestyle Vlog and uh and way way to 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:33.520 compete against everyone yeah and it was 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:35.440 funny because his mom's giving me 00:04:33.520 --> 00:04:39.759 additional details like yeah he wants me to pay for plane tickets so he can like 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:46.720 travel interesting places for his lifestyle Vlog of course and so I was 00:04:42.440 --> 00:04:49.720 like yeah all right bro one I'm not 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:52.000 going to side with your mom and and just 00:04:49.720 --> 00:05:00.560 say straight up stay in school could be a decent strategy because I didn't 00:04:55.360 --> 00:05:00.560 nothing don't worry about it really 00:05:00.880 --> 00:05:05.240 I mean if she's got plane tickets go all around the world okay all right I 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:09.440 thought you were going somewhere else with that no no totally 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:15.880 no anyway yeah I'm not siding with his 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:21.160 mom directly cuz like the whole school thing didn't work out very well for me 00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:25.680 but I was also like on the other hand dude if you're going to succeed as a 00:05:23.039 --> 00:05:32.759 social media influencer you won't succeed unless you have a the passion 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:34.520 and B the dve slor ethic to do it on the 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:40.000 side yeah so if you don't have anything better to do then stay in school but 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:43.800 don't lose track of that this should be your full-time side project yeah and 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:48.360 that was sort of the advice that I gave and the guy like he looked like I you 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:52.680 know punched him in the stomach well and I was bigger than I 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:58.840 am my biggest thing oh my goodness thank you Nick um my biggest thing is like the 00:05:56.039 --> 00:06:03.639 the Nick as should be paying me for this yeah I've been drinking out of this 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:05.319 bottle on W show for years yeah you can 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:08.840 call out that person who uh you called out in the super fun yeah okay maybe 00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:14.720 I'll do that I don't think he controls any budget spending there so it won't do 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:17.039 me any good but that's fine um hey Seuss 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:20.400 pay us the money for product placement okay see you can never get money for 00:06:18.840 --> 00:06:24.440 product placement if you have product placement all over your stuff for free 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:29.160 anyway people are everyone looks at it and they just go why so why would I pay 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:35.000 for this you're do any ever done a success straight up product placement 00:06:31.599 --> 00:06:36.840 deal I don't think so we tried to do 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:40.639 something with a smartwatch like with Pebble I think like a thousand years ago 00:06:39.280 --> 00:06:45.039 and then Pebble wouldn't even send us review samples and then they got bought 00:06:43.280 --> 00:06:49.440 yeah so that's about how successful we've been whatever yeah maybe they 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:53.919 should have done that that marketing spot anyway um okay so my thing 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:58.199 especially people are in his specific position where you're like he's uploaded 00:06:55.520 --> 00:07:02.800 two videos yes my whole thing is like I don't care and you shouldn't 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:06.639 upload way more that's your big problem right now is you just need to do it a 00:07:04.400 --> 00:07:11.120 whole bunch because there's going to be things that you're missing doing it 00:07:08.599 --> 00:07:17.400 doing it learn from doing it yeah okay anyway like a you know all right let's 00:07:14.039 --> 00:07:17.400 roll the intro 00:07:30.440 --> 00:07:36.599 I don't know if the uh the L show announcement went up oh it did look at 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:40.479 that LTX I'm actually getting a lot more 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:45.840 confident that this is going to be a lot of fun yeah um the case toss was really 00:07:43.080 --> 00:07:51.360 fun we put uh we put actually we put Colton's wife in charge of the event 00:07:47.960 --> 00:07:54.319 yeah because previously we had Colton in 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:58.479 charge um because they had such a wonderful and well organized wedding and 00:07:56.840 --> 00:08:03.319 then we found out that of course he had nothing to do with it so we hired his 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:05.039 wife and she is doing a bang up job so 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:13.280 far there is going to be a lot of fun stuff to do also fresh books yay woo 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:15.960 fresh books and EK water 00:08:13.280 --> 00:08:19.520 blocks now hold on a second actually you know what I'll get into it in the 00:08:16.960 --> 00:08:23.080 sponsor spot but that is not as crazy as it sounds yeah that whole thing that I 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:29.479 just put on the screen there 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:31.240 uh okay so first uh first topic you know 00:08:29.479 --> 00:08:37.279 you know what let's jump right into the good stuff today the original article here is from 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:45.120 PC perspective and it was posted on the Forum by E kin and our buddy Mr the one 00:08:42.719 --> 00:08:51.880 and only Ryan shastic got his hand on an AMD Vega 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:55.959 Frontier Edition and how he did this I 00:08:51.880 --> 00:09:00.279 can tell you he bought it the same as we 00:08:55.959 --> 00:09:03.240 had to ours is in the mail okay AMD is 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:08.040 not sampling Frontier Edition why might they not oh actually 00:09:06.760 --> 00:09:14.160 you know what's really funny is I didn't even read the article purchased directly 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:19.000 from a reseller rather than being 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:20.560 sampled from AMD um so why didn't they 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:25.200 want to sample this to press well there are a number of uh potential 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:30.920 explanations for that can you think of any uh well they've been moving this way 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:33.680 for a while they okay that's true on the 00:09:30.920 --> 00:09:37.120 professional cards the fire fire class cards and actually kind of both sides 00:09:35.800 --> 00:09:40.839 have been moving this way a little bit inv Vidia has still been on their gaming 00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:44.079 cards have been pushing really hard but AMD for a little while now has been 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:50.079 saying that they don't want to give out as many reviewer sample cards cuz they want to do more seeding into the 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:54.040 community and NVIDIA did not sample the Titan xpp yeah we have a video coming 00:09:52.560 --> 00:09:57.680 featuring it soon but we borrowed it from somebody and they're trying to line 00:09:55.760 --> 00:10:02.399 this card up more against those that's true okay my now I'm going to contribute 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:07.480 a potential reason uh potential reason number two yields are very low and they 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:10.200 don't have a lot of them yeah okay so that might be another one you got 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:16.160 another one um I doubt this is a thing MH but even 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:20.000 maybe everyone is buying every single card everywhere for AMD right now 00:10:17.760 --> 00:10:24.839 because of mining okay okay so they like know that it will sell immediately so 00:10:21.920 --> 00:10:27.920 price so rather than giving away literally money in the bank which when 00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:32.160 you're AMD and like with their press right now 00:10:30.560 --> 00:10:36.560 they might not even need reviews of this thing because everyone talking about AMD 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:40.680 stuff is super popular right now and very positive right now so it's going to 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:44.680 be popular and positive anyways and then everyone's buying it anyways because of 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:48.160 mining so they might not even need the marketing that they would get from 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:55.839 sending it okay which brings us then to reason number four which I actually 00:10:51.160 --> 00:10:58.639 think might be the most likely Vega does 00:10:55.839 --> 00:11:07.000 not look like it is going to set the world on on fire and AMD and for that 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:11.680 matter um I mean who hasn't done this 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:15.320 but AMD has demonstrated in the past a a 00:11:11.680 --> 00:11:18.320 lower level of eagerness to seed 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:23.399 products that they don't think are going 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:26.880 to be as exciting in an attempt to if 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:29.880 not limit independent coverage of them 00:11:26.880 --> 00:11:33.279 at least not spend money on getting 00:11:29.880 --> 00:11:35.279 independent coverage of them so let's 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.040 give a a brief outline of what it is so the Vega Founders Edition is not 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:43.839 explicitly aimed at Gamers Frontier Edition sorry I did that 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:47.560 a lot on the announcement video like really you guys I actually might have 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:52.760 another Walkin the park coming on AMD's naming schemes cuz I'm getting real Fed 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:55.639 Up um so the Vega Frontier Edition like 00:11:52.760 --> 00:12:00.160 almost sort of copy everyone else yeah not explicitly aimed at Gamers uh like 00:11:57.880 --> 00:12:05.880 NVIDIA Titans we shouldn't expect the best performance per dollar okay uh 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:11.160 gaming results though and this is this is kind of uh this kind of throws up 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:19.560 some warning flags because with gaming results between a GTX 1070 and a 00:12:14.959 --> 00:12:21.760 1080 priced at $1,000 for the 300 watt 00:12:19.560 --> 00:12:28.160 version this tells us a couple things number one is that and that's the air 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:30.320 cooled one and $1,500 for the 375 watt 00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:36.839 water cooled one that tells us we are pretty close to the the limit of what 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.600 this chip is capable of and there there 00:12:36.839 --> 00:12:44.720 isn't a lot of magic sauce we did a video kind of covering this a little 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:47.680 while ago it was a holy Shiite episode 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:54.360 that we did um where we we like uh $6,000 graphics card we game on 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:58.600 it the amount of R&D that goes into 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:59.800 building a GPU is such that you should 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:07.680 be very surprised if there is a specific product 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:09.720 created for Quadro versus GeForce yeah 00:13:07.680 --> 00:13:15.760 it's the same product it's the same silicon and in much the same way AMD's 00:13:12.959 --> 00:13:20.320 Frontier Edition silicon will be the same silicon it give or take it might be 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:23.839 set up and utilized or whatever in different ways and the memory paired 00:13:21.880 --> 00:13:28.160 with it might be different units here and the logic on board might be a little 00:13:26.079 --> 00:13:36.639 bit different a tweak here and there but the amount of money involved in 00:13:30.959 --> 00:13:39.519 building a GPU is incredible so if you 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:49.360 are expecting then the gaming versions of Vega to come in and crush 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:53.240 the GTX 10 1080 let alone the 1080 TI 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:55.759 you are setting yourself up for a major 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:59.240 disappointment and I'm sure that the AMD fans in twitch chat are freaking out 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:04.240 right now I'm specifically not looking at it because I really don't care I'm 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:09.199 laying down some reality here and that's the way it's going to be there is some 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:16.600 driver optimization to be done and AMD has been notorious for this the 5870 is 00:14:12.560 --> 00:14:18.959 a perfect example of a product that 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:24.120 managed to get faster enough through driver releases that when they rebadged 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:28.279 it it ended up being it ended up not looking that bad when you looked at 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:34.240 launch reviews of the rebadged one versus launch reviews of the original 00:14:30.839 --> 00:14:36.120 one but you can't expect more than it's 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:39.959 not going to double in speed driver optimizations will give you a little bit 00:14:37.880 --> 00:14:44.560 but the Silicon is by and large not going to change yeah the clock speed is 00:14:42.560 --> 00:14:50.959 by and large not going to change because it's a 300 watt part at $9.99 AMD's 00:14:48.560 --> 00:14:54.839 closest thing to a competitor is probably going to be somewhere in the 00:14:52.240 --> 00:15:00.600 neighborhood of a GTX 1070 to 1080 in terms of performance 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:02.480 so AMD may not have abandoned the high 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:09.040 endend but it does look like cuz they're not even talking about like a high end 00:15:06.680 --> 00:15:14.079 Vega architecture product right now not at all they do seem to have abandoned 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:20.959 whether by choice or whether by strategy the enthusiest The Very extreme highend 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:24.519 I like using rise of the Tomb Raider as a standard Benchmark we use it in a lot 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:32.880 of different scales really well CPU and GPU and and multi GPU even and the Vega 00:15:29.040 --> 00:15:35.199 Fe only managed to beat out the 1070 by 00:15:32.880 --> 00:15:39.959 about a 4 to 5% lead which is at that price like really 00:15:39.040 --> 00:15:44.639 not great so um it's not a gaming card no 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:49.440 it's not and we don't know anything about what pricing of Vega gaming like 00:15:47.920 --> 00:15:53.519 what are they going to call it R9 Vega or something I don't I don't I don't remember what they're going to call it 00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:59.519 but um a lot of times you can 00:15:56.800 --> 00:16:03.399 get a rough idea of how it will perform in things that aren't gaming by using 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:10.000 games yes they're not unre they're not completely unrelated yeah but with that 00:16:06.319 --> 00:16:12.560 said I believe uh is it fp16 something 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:17.880 there's there's some more um more professional grade features that make it 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:22.959 more comparable to quadros than a straight gaming card would that will 00:16:20.040 --> 00:16:27.440 perform much better and may make Vega Frontier Edition very interesting for 00:16:24.920 --> 00:16:34.000 workstation users because it will be similar in terms of performance to to a 00:16:29.199 --> 00:16:37.639 p5000 Quadro but at about half the price 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:39.160 of that so at the very least if you if 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:43.720 you were wondering about buying like this crazy tiered AMD card for gaming 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:48.079 like maybe don't maybe that's what we know so far 00:16:45.959 --> 00:16:51.120 or at the very least like wait until the gaming version of it arrives and we can 00:16:49.880 --> 00:16:55.720 see kind of what we're what we're dealing with here even PC purse 00:16:52.920 --> 00:16:59.519 conclusion is like title marked conclusion do do dot for now or 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:05.319 something like that so like yeah I don't think it's a huge 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.679 deal um yeah I mean unless you were 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:12.679 looking into this card at as a gamer's perspective but that's not what it is no 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:17.919 and it's not how it's priced yeah I am shocked that they had the guts to do a 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:20.720 water cooled card again like that looked 00:17:17.919 --> 00:17:26.120 like a desperation tactic last time the fury X was a commercial failure utter 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.559 commercial failure and could you buy I 00:17:26.120 --> 00:17:33.080 don't think you could buy a furyx air cooled though right no so this is a 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:37.360 versioning thing they have an aired 00:17:33.080 --> 00:17:40.440 one Fury X again yeah yeah yeah 00:17:37.360 --> 00:17:42.840 um yeah that's 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:46.720 fair yeah we've got people in the chat I'm finally I'm finally looking at the 00:17:44.600 --> 00:17:53.320 chat I've decided to subject myself to that uh age core 123 is like AMD fans 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:57.520 equal NVIDIA fans and then there's some Emoji I can't see cuz it's too small and 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:59.960 yeah the recent War has I talked about this a little bit on the last show to 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:04.440 the recent War has been kind of interesting cuz everything that people are fighting about are these like 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:10.760 outside of the tears of what they're probably shopping for products it is 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:12.039 funny thing so weird uh the percentage 00:18:10.760 --> 00:18:17.159 of people that are actually interested in buying a $1,000 graphics card cuz if 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:24.600 AMD can get this priced right then you know it yeah it'll Stomp all over a 1060 00:18:20.159 --> 00:18:26.640 but if it consumes like 300 watts yeah I 00:18:24.600 --> 00:18:31.679 don't know we'll you know what how about this why don't we cross that bridge when 00:18:29.159 --> 00:18:35.880 we get to it in the me that's what we know for now also our Vega Frontier 00:18:34.120 --> 00:18:40.240 Edition is coming so we're going to run all of our own numbers and make our own 00:18:37.600 --> 00:18:44.120 video and you can probably save yourself the trouble of watching it by reading 00:18:41.520 --> 00:18:49.159 shrout's review but am I allowed to say that yeah I mean who's going to who's 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:52.640 going to fire me 00:18:49.159 --> 00:18:56.240 but lus you're fired damn 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:58.120 it crap I'll have to go to my other job 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:02.799 yeah I'll have to go work work for Floatplane club like 00:18:59.360 --> 00:19:04.320 he yeah yeah would you hire me yeah yes 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:07.919 yeah yeah I would you'd be pretty expensive but all right I feel like that 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:14.120 investment would pay itself off so the original article for our next news story 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:18.520 is overclock 3d. net AMD announces their 00:19:14.120 --> 00:19:22.320 new risen pro series of desktop CPUs and 00:19:18.520 --> 00:19:25.799 I I got to confess I was a little bit 00:19:22.320 --> 00:19:29.480 confused initially by the announcement 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:31.000 of ryzen pro because I kind of went well 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:35.080 what makes a processor Pro other than being a 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:42.679 processor nothing I get nothing for processor sorry I'm replying to 00:19:40.679 --> 00:19:48.240 Something in the chat I hate you can you there I can I pretend that 00:19:45.360 --> 00:19:51.960 that laugh was for my joke the best part too is you made a joke and I didn't 00:19:50.120 --> 00:19:56.520 laugh because I was answering a question of someone going really Luke laughing 00:19:54.159 --> 00:20:02.640 again everything's funny I'm just like you know what I enjoy things and I find 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:04.840 things funny maybe we do WAN Show at the 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:09.960 end of the day on Friday so we can kind of loosen up a little bit like hang out 00:20:07.679 --> 00:20:13.760 for the first time this week because we almost never see each other this week 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:20.360 was pretty good this week was pretty good there was a few times yeah yeah da 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:22.320 zore HK yeah I just enjoy laughing at 00:20:20.360 --> 00:20:27.000 things yeah you know what laughter is the best medicine I even got un you need 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:32.200 chemotherapy in which case chemotherapy is probably the best medicine might go 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:33.720 do yes so laughter is the best medicine 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:39.600 for if you're not actually sick if you're not actually sick okay anyway so 00:20:37.760 --> 00:20:43.840 I was sitting there going what makes something a 00:20:41.360 --> 00:20:52.120 processor and my got him jeez and my my initial answer 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.799 to that was the obvious one ECC support 00:20:52.120 --> 00:20:58.760 okay yeah okay okay so you can use server memory that um has automatic 00:20:56.600 --> 00:21:02.480 error Corrections that are going going on the fly in case there's like you know 00:21:00.520 --> 00:21:08.080 a solar flare that flips a bit or whatever and you your your freaking you 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:10.520 know freen ass ZFS array gets corrupted 00:21:08.080 --> 00:21:13.000 irreparably like that that's a prole feature but the funny thing about that 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:19.720 is that ryzen has ECC support they didn't fuse 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:24.880 it off the way that Intel does on all of their consumer chips even ones that cost 00:21:21.919 --> 00:21:28.679 ,000 which I I think is unreasonable because they're worried about um they're 00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:35.840 worried about cannibalizing their ENT prise chips they're 00:21:30.159 --> 00:21:37.799 xeons um so what they do do though and 00:21:35.840 --> 00:21:43.240 this didn't occur to me initially is they offer Windows 10 Enterprise 00:21:39.679 --> 00:21:46.360 security support AES 128bit memory 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:48.279 encryption and a longer warranty with 00:21:46.360 --> 00:21:55.120 that said a 36-month warranty is what they used to offer anyway but hey okay I 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:59.679 mean sure it's also a processor so whether it's AMD or Intel they're both 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:03.520 pretty good about their CPUs not just like randomly failing how many times 00:22:01.919 --> 00:22:11.000 have you had a processor die I had an opteron 165 die I deserved 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:14.880 it was it your fault I had 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:16.720 it how do I put this um yes I'm hold yes 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:21.559 no I didn't like drop it on the floor but you like overvolted the tar off of 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:27.720 it just can you just relax okay yeah okay so I had it chilled to minus 25° 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.279 okay I'm not going to finish the story 00:22:33.600 --> 00:22:41.840 okay all right all right so so it was not really the processor so I had that 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:44.840 coming I'm not I'm not yeah so zero so 00:22:41.840 --> 00:22:47.919 far do you have anymore um no I'm also 00:22:44.840 --> 00:22:49.880 at zero so like it's probably fine the 00:22:47.919 --> 00:22:55.400 pro series will come okay now to be clear I have had like test bench chips 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:57.000 die was that the the old school Chiller 00:22:55.400 --> 00:23:01.279 yes oh that's pretty cool that's the chiller we haven't thrown it away I might resurrect it someday just for LS 00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:05.039 you should do that as a video it would be a great actually it would be a great video that would be really fun get Alex 00:23:03.679 --> 00:23:09.080 to help you with it and like modernize it a little bit get it in a cooler box 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:12.440 than just Proto case to do something up for us nice I like this project that 00:23:11.120 --> 00:23:17.200 would actually be really sick and then we could use it like on our test benches and stuff that would be really sick we'd 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:20.640 have to do up a new block for it because the block I used to use for it was a 00:23:18.840 --> 00:23:25.039 dangered end TDX and that was out of pure cheapness maybe you can follow up 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:31.240 the like terrible heat sink guides with like a we professionally designed our 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:31.240 own heat sink Terri Chiller 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:38.799 guide I I would love personally I would love watching that that would be great 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:42.559 um so I was actually using highly not recommended so with people are asking 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:47.440 for the story but keep going with antifreeze um and water as coolant 00:23:45.600 --> 00:23:51.559 because once you're going down to no no sorry that's not what you use you use a 00:23:49.320 --> 00:23:56.400 windshield deicer so that's actually like an alcohol based coolant so I was 00:23:54.080 --> 00:24:00.360 using that at like sub 25 00:23:59.080 --> 00:24:07.320 actually a little more than that on the actual cools about sub35 I was using 00:24:03.080 --> 00:24:09.200 that in an acrylic block oh so you 00:24:07.320 --> 00:24:12.840 leaked onto it no no I didn't I didn't no that survived no no I'm just saying 00:24:10.919 --> 00:24:18.000 that that block still exists we still have it but it is so full of micro 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:20.960 Cracks around the fittings that it is terrifying so I was using it out of 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:27.320 cheapness because I just assumed it would have cracked at that point whatever block I used in this 00:24:24.919 --> 00:24:31.880 contraption had to have like industrial glue put on it so that could put all of 00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:36.720 my like neoprene insulation and crap all over it and um so it was basically a 00:24:34.399 --> 00:24:40.440 write off and that was at a time that so A well you're supposed to use an all 00:24:38.320 --> 00:24:44.559 metal block yeah preferably all the same metal yeah um so that the expansion and 00:24:42.520 --> 00:24:48.679 contraction isn't of different Metals yeah um so preferably you're supposed to 00:24:46.520 --> 00:24:52.840 do that but those back then I would have been buying like a water cool I think it 00:24:51.159 --> 00:24:59.640 was called the heat killer 3.0 or something like that or whatever it would have been at the time those were 150 00:24:56.760 --> 00:25:03.600 bucks all just silver not you could get silver ones but even the copper ones 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:08.399 were like they were like 80 or 90 or something stupid like that so um so I 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:13.159 was using like a crazy dumb thing anyway if we if we Ed the Partnerships that I 00:25:10.919 --> 00:25:17.440 now have with like protoc case to do like a really nice enclosure for it and 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:21.120 like get EK to build us something like custom or something for it oh that would 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:24.600 be sick that would be a sick project and something that we could like pull out 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:27.640 with pride on the test bench when we want like yeah you know you know what 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.320 cuz we have more resources now we have more writers 00:25:31.159 --> 00:25:39.919 us when it was just you and me we did some factory tours yes we did Omron we 00:25:36.760 --> 00:25:41.240 did Sennheiser we did uh I feel like 00:25:39.919 --> 00:25:47.799 there was another one I'm Miss uh yeah we did Cherry Cherry How Could You Forget Cherry like my yeah that was 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:51.039 where we popped our factory tour Cherry yeah it was it was great I think I think 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:57.240 I missed it because Sennheiser and Cherry were on the same trip they were 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:59.720 um but now going through like maybe 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:05.880 spending a couple days there mhm and like going through each station through 00:26:02.679 --> 00:26:07.600 like the design process of a water block 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:14.279 go through like the guy that cads out the original files you know what we we 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:16.399 tried to do EK oh we actually were 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:21.120 thinking about doing it on the same trip as cherry and Sennheiser oh we couldn't 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:25.760 get it worked out because the budget required for all the travel and because 00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:31.840 we do charge for those that is a sponsored type of project for us um they 00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:35.480 couldn't make that work at the time but now that they're going a little bit more 00:26:33.159 --> 00:26:39.039 mainstream and actually that might work we'll talk a little bit more about that 00:26:36.760 --> 00:26:42.960 when we do our ad spot for w show today that's ekk spot uh maybe we could make 00:26:41.159 --> 00:26:48.559 it work cuz I would love to see their would super cool their shop is sick yeah 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:53.320 and like if you can actually see like what goes into designing and building a 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:58.320 product and EK actually manufactures everything so they're not like all water 00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:02.840 cooling companies that are designing somewhere and then Outsourcing to China 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:07.919 um EK actually owns their own manufacturing so it would be pretty cool 00:27:05.159 --> 00:27:13.279 to see that that would be pretty sick um okay what else what else do we got okay 00:27:09.679 --> 00:27:15.320 ryzen Pro um right we were talking about 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:20.480 that okay ryen Pro offers yet another advantage over Intel's I3 series 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:24.000 especially because those lack uh Intel V 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:26.320 Pro so um basically AMD is putting more 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:29.679 pressure on Intel and this time it's on the like professional and business 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:33.080 feature side which is definitely something that I can appreciate because 00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:38.080 I mean you were talking about this the other day security and encryption is 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:46.080 going to become one of those things where like we might be sitting in a golden age of Hardware right now where 00:27:43.159 --> 00:27:50.480 manufacturers are waking up to the need for encryption on their devices Apple 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:57.559 has to a great extent yeah and governments haven't outlawed it yet yeah 00:27:53.960 --> 00:28:01.159 so think about this like 10 years from 00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:03.960 now getting your hands on a ryzen pro 00:28:01.159 --> 00:28:07.399 might be like a thing yeah for your like encrypted computer if you want encrypted 00:28:05.760 --> 00:28:11.120 memory yeah think about that for a minute like 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:15.559 I'm not trying to go all tinfoil hat but it's no secret that governments around 00:28:13.080 --> 00:28:19.640 the world articles in this W show that we haven't talked about yet that are 00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:25.440 exactly in line with this yeah it's going to be uh it's going to be an 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:28.960 interesting time um AMD accidentally 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:30.840 reveals ryen 3 details w a is this like 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:33.840 a quote unquote accidentally or is this legitimately accidentally I can never 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:38.000 tell with those guys to be honest with you sometimes I suspect that it's quote 00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:42.200 unquote accidentally other times I believe them that it's not accident I 00:28:39.679 --> 00:28:47.159 don't know um anyway originally posted by Ryan Smith over at unon Tech well gee 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:52.799 if you were paying close attention to this morning's announcement of AMD's new ryzen Pro skes then you likely noticed 00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:55.360 something interesting the non-x pro chips all have the same performance 00:28:54.159 --> 00:28:59.519 specifications as their standard consumer counterparts specifically both 00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:03.320 of the non X pro SKS with existing ryzen 5 and 7 counterparts have the same core 00:29:00.760 --> 00:29:06.480 counts clock speeds and ttps as for the final two ryzen Pro 3 SKS well they 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:12.200 inadvertently showed their hand when it comes to the forthcoming ryzen 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:15.480 3 okay so I mean we are making some 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:17.279 assumptions here but it looks like uh 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:24.360 they've inadvertently revealed the ryzen 3 1300 and 1200 specs so the ryzen 3 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:28.799 looks like it'll be a quad core CPU without smt so that's four threads 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:33.960 rather than eight which in my opinion is what entrylevel 00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:38.840 chips should have been at this point for a few years now uh that's give me one 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:42.360 quick second sorry you're good everything's fine don't worry about it 00:29:40.840 --> 00:29:48.399 everything's okay is everything okay yeah it is does everything seem okay to you guys 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:55.960 tell you what why don't 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00:31:25.240 can see this oh I wasn't going to acknowledge it 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:32.120 everyone's been talking about it in the chat and I was just going to completely IGN also just 00:31:28.760 --> 00:31:35.159 you are also here 00:31:32.120 --> 00:31:37.480 oh yeah fine we'll acknowledge it so 00:31:35.159 --> 00:31:42.480 that'll be there but I'm not going to tell you any more about it oh other than 00:31:40.120 --> 00:31:46.840 that uh that might be a lonus tech tips logo 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:50.840 there yeah that's all we'll say that's all we'll say about it so that'll be 00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:55.200 there um we're probably hopefully going to have okay I'm kind of Tiff my hand a 00:31:53.600 --> 00:31:59.840 little bit here but LTX is going to be freaking sick um we're going to have 15K 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:05.440 gaming there the cas TOS k i I don't know uh 00:32:03.600 --> 00:32:09.639 it's on Floatplane right now yeah it's ch FL right now yeah it's it's not on 00:32:07.600 --> 00:32:13.320 channel super on YouTube but we did like a a case toss to so show what it might 00:32:11.679 --> 00:32:17.919 be like while you're at LTX there actually tons of fun yep um there's 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.919 going to be other examples of Booth there's going to be other types of 00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:24.360 booths like guess how many CPUs are in a jar kind of like the old Jelly Bean 00:32:22.320 --> 00:32:28.480 thing rocket league in real life uh video editing tips from Taran we're 00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:33.760 literally going to take his Workstation and like transplant it over there and 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:37.159 just let him keep working yep and he'll be like talking to people about what 00:32:34.919 --> 00:32:41.039 he's doing so it's July 29th from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and you can get your 00:32:38.679 --> 00:32:44.200 ticket through the Forum or at the link in the video description which I'm going 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:49.840 to go ahead and drop in the twitch chat right now Twitch Plays Pokemon was like 00:32:46.320 --> 00:32:53.519 are we just skipping 8K yes 00:32:49.840 --> 00:32:57.200 yes uh okay other sponsor EK water 00:32:53.519 --> 00:33:01.240 blocks heck yeah so this my friends is 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:04.559 ek's foray into the mainstream but 00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:07.559 unlike their previous Predator lineup 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.200 of thank you trying to make water 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:17.159 cooling more mainstream like trying to be more like an AIO but better like 00:33:12.080 --> 00:33:19.840 expandable this one is much much less 00:33:17.159 --> 00:33:24.159 expensive so what they've done and this sounds crazy on first glance but we 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:27.799 actually have a review which by the way we completed it's not uploaded yet but 00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:33.639 we completed we evaluated this thing before we did any sponsor spots for it 00:33:29.919 --> 00:33:36.240 we have a review coming um and it's 00:33:33.639 --> 00:33:41.440 pretty positive uh this thing is really good by making all the blocks out of 00:33:38.919 --> 00:33:46.080 aluminum instead of copper they have lowered the cost they have lowered the 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:53.559 Machining time which inherently lowers the cost they have retained the 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:56.519 expandability and they have retained 00:33:53.559 --> 00:34:02.360 most of the performance of a full Copper Custom Loop the drawback is that you 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:04.080 can't mix ek's a series products with 00:34:02.360 --> 00:34:08.839 their normal products because there would be a risk of galvanic corrosion I 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:15.320 don't know why Siri started taking off there but the point is the a120 the a240 00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:20.440 and the a240g especially personally I don't 00:34:18.399 --> 00:34:26.240 think this is in my uh I don't think this is in my sponsor notes but 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.399 especially the a240 and the a240g look 00:34:26.240 --> 00:34:32.359 like a fantastic value for custom liquid cooling is it 00:34:30.879 --> 00:34:39.200 the G does that mean it includes like graphics card it does it includes a 1060 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:42.560 to Titan XP Founders Edition compatible 00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:45.079 block cool so looks pretty darn good and 00:34:42.560 --> 00:34:49.639 unlike other aios it includes actual fittings it includes tubing that you can 00:34:47.359 --> 00:34:56.119 change up for something else it includes vardar fans oh so very good fans and it 00:34:53.200 --> 00:35:01.720 includes um a like like a custom grade pump and then 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:07.640 tube Reservoir combo nice yeah that's cool so looking looking pretty good so 00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:10.119 you can check that out over at Genie g. 00:35:07.640 --> 00:35:15.440 usek fluid gaming I'll drop that in the twitch chat as 00:35:12.359 --> 00:35:18.200 well okay all right yeah I know I I I 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:23.520 got the notification from Tyler that he was clearing the fridge out in 15 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:25.280 minutes and I got it 21 minutes ago oh 00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:28.920 and he was going to throw away your food which I like don't even normally store 00:35:27.160 --> 00:35:32.640 food here cuz I just have like soil in which you don't throw out which I have 00:35:30.520 --> 00:35:36.920 for like breakfast and stuff but there's I had a bunch of food here that my 00:35:34.560 --> 00:35:40.480 girlfriend cooked and she's the least domestic person ever and doesn't cook 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:45.359 but she's very excited about this stuff right now so if it all got thrown out 00:35:42.359 --> 00:35:46.880 that would have been a very bad um right 00:35:45.359 --> 00:35:51.480 yeah that would have been bad bad scene so I solved that good everything's fine 00:35:49.720 --> 00:35:54.960 so you solved that by fishing it out of the garbage can putting it back in the 00:35:52.880 --> 00:36:00.680 container and not telling her I think I I think in in Tyler's 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:04.720 regular style he said 15 minutes and it's probably like half an hour okay so 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.880 it just wasn't done yet okay uh we've got people asking why I'm using an 00:36:06.160 --> 00:36:11.640 iPhone to be clear what I mean by that is he gave people a grace period not 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:18.839 that he's delayed uh I'm using an iPhone because I actually don't really care 00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:22.280 right now um between Android and iOS and 00:36:18.839 --> 00:36:25.280 I had to give the shooters my S8 which I 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:28.359 was using as my daily driver um to do 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.720 comparative b-roll against the OnePlus 5 00:36:28.359 --> 00:36:35.160 and then I I just haven't gotten around to putting my sim back in the S8 I do intend to go back to the S8 how do you 00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:39.119 feel about the notifications they're both awful in different ways okay cuz 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.160 that was like one thing that I hated about iOS when I used it for a fairly 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:49.880 short period of time was the notifications yeah um the problem is that Samsung in the I think it was the 00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:52.280 marshmallow update nou nou update so 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:55.560 Samsung um even when you set your privacy settings people in the 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:04.000 chat uh even when you set your privacy settings to show your notifications on 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:09.880 your lock screen before you log in they changed it so that Gmail 00:37:06.560 --> 00:37:12.800 notifications don't show 00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:16.040 anymore so I actually have to unlock the phone like I can see I have Gmail 00:37:14.560 --> 00:37:19.560 notifications but I can't see what they are okay yeah well you should have your 00:37:18.160 --> 00:37:23.400 phone encrypted so it doesn't show what they are 00:37:21.200 --> 00:37:27.119 anyways no I think yeah no it's encrypted but you should you should make 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:31.319 it so that it doesn't show anyway yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was like in the security should should 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:35.720 should should should should but the point is I get too many notifications 00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:38.359 for that to be perfectly Frank with you if certain emails come through you can 00:37:37.200 --> 00:37:43.160 get super screwed yeah I guess that's possible 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:46.480 just show the subject subject line and like maybe the first few words but 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:51.200 there's not much there's some emails that can you can get screwed for I don't 00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:54.040 get any like two Factor emails though like 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:58.680 that cuz I think that's the kind you're thinking of mostly yeah no yeah Okay no 00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:03.640 Okay um so so yeah it it's really frustrating and uh yeah so anyway I just 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:08.520 haven't put my sim back in the S8 yet and I actually own two SmartWatches they 00:38:06.040 --> 00:38:12.839 both sit on my bedside table on their Chargers and whichever phone I happen to 00:38:10.680 --> 00:38:18.839 be using I just grab either an Android Wear or an Apple Watch wow 00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:25.280 yep cuz I just don't care anymore at 00:38:23.040 --> 00:38:29.319 this point I I am actually pretty psyched for the you know what here let's 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:32.760 blow through ryzen 3 oh that's the opposite of first world problems that's 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:37.880 just like first world excess sorry I have a matching phone for 00:38:35.720 --> 00:38:41.119 I have a matching watch for my phone it's perfect all the time you know what 00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:45.079 it's not that different from people who have watches for their outfits in fact 00:38:43.520 --> 00:38:50.280 it's very different I only need two watches more practical that is not more 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.880 practical no your way oh oh I see I was 00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:58.440 I was admitting a minor amount of defeat yeah um so anyway AMD accidentally 00:38:56.640 --> 00:39:01.680 reveals Ryon 3 details it's quad core without smt it'll use the same dies 00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:06.400 ryzen 5 and Ry 7 oh that's surprising actually luk don't get paid enough even 00:39:03.160 --> 00:39:08.920 if I did I wouldn't do that four cores 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:12.839 distributed over two CCX but we saw that that wasn't a huge deal with the lower 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:18.000 end ryzen 5S same cash structure as ryzen 5400 blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:25.079 TDP will still this be the same 65 watt but as we know the TDP ratings for CPUs 00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:28.800 like Intel rates all of their HDT chips 00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:31.480 like 130 Watts y clearly the ones with 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:36.760 twice as many cores clearly consume more power yeah clearly so there's that just 00:39:34.560 --> 00:39:40.960 like blanket statement whole areas um yeah I had wanted to chat about oh yeah 00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:44.359 you know what well do you want to do this first or that why don't we do that 00:39:42.359 --> 00:39:49.319 let's do that okay okay I realized what we're saying right now is very cryptic 00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:50.839 but this is important if you are not 00:39:49.319 --> 00:39:56.119 already on Floatplane this is the week well other than 00:39:53.960 --> 00:40:02.079 like a scrap scrapyard Wars because unlike scrapyard Wars where we have one 00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:06.480 piece of content that like half of our 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:09.119 community cannot wait to watch we have 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:15.160 four pieces of content right now that are behind the Early Access wall on 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:16.839 Floatplane that are freaking unreal but 00:40:15.160 --> 00:40:20.760 they'll all be coming uh sometime in the next week so if you watched all of them 00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:24.319 and I don't normally watch our videos even that 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:28.640 often well okay cuz I hear about everything that's going on and I'll like 00:40:26.560 --> 00:40:35.640 talk to the writer that's working on it and know their conclusions and stuff wow 00:40:30.680 --> 00:40:38.599 dick I'm just saying okay so LT video 00:40:35.640 --> 00:40:43.079 exposing dead Mouse's Studio spoiler he's a huge geek this isn't even an LTT 00:40:41.520 --> 00:40:47.079 video but do cell phones actually cause cancer it was an entertaining Tech to 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:50.880 make you probably know the answer I kind of hope but like it's it's a good thing 00:40:49.240 --> 00:40:57.400 to send to people not everybody does or we wouldn't have made the video Fair um 00:40:53.160 --> 00:41:01.000 LTT unboxing a quantum computer that was 00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:02.160 very cool um that was awesome so was the 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:06.680 deadmouse one those were both really awesome LT the most important iPad video 00:41:05.359 --> 00:41:12.160 in years which actually got Lost in Translation it's supposed to be the most important iPad in years but that's okay 00:41:10.839 --> 00:41:16.160 we'll figure that out also there's a giraffe in the video which is why it 00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:23.520 says gone wild see we're all about clickbait that's true yeah uh LT the 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:26.240 ultimate RGB build guide yes build 00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:29.240 guides are back in a real way just to okay okay this one I'll 00:41:29.839 --> 00:41:35.760 uh class distinction didn't know you could do that I'm sorry I didn't even 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:40.960 know you could do itst preview check out this intro this is very cool 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:44.200 yeah the best part is can you identify all the people I can tell who some of 00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:48.520 them are except for when they're running by like I know yeah that was very 00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:52.839 obvious yeah I can identify everyone except for 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:58.880 when they're all running by all at once anyway then it gets messy that's a great 00:41:54.599 --> 00:42:02.480 video LTT can you plastic dip a whole PC 00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:03.880 inside and out LTT unboxing Canada's 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:09.880 biggest supercomputer um yeah LTT can you plasty 00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:15.119 dip a whole PC is actually really funny yeah so next week is going to be 00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:19.960 ridiculous because many of these projects were things that we've been 00:42:16.359 --> 00:42:22.839 working on for weeks and or months and 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:27.440 they just all kind of came together at the same time in fact if I was like in 00:42:24.640 --> 00:42:31.200 charge of programming here I might not necessarily like I might have tried to 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:37.400 find other sort of I don't want to say crappier stuff 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:40.559 but yeah less expensive content to 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:43.280 produce to to like space things out a 00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:48.359 little bit um but if you guys want to join the Floatplane Club um basically 00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:53.119 the way to do it you got the link you post it in the chat do you yeah okay 00:42:50.359 --> 00:42:58.040 good LTT Bots got that now's kind of the time to do it and uh yeah it's going to 00:42:56.640 --> 00:43:02.000 be it's going to be a good time it's going to be a good time over on Floatplane right now if you want to binge 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:11.040 watch all that stuff you're going to be you're going to like it um okay so Apple moving on to news 00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:17.079 this was posted by WM gr on the Forum and the original article is from n 00:43:13.240 --> 00:43:17.079 Gadget it looks like 00:43:17.160 --> 00:43:25.559 Vivo Vivo oh that's what happened there what 00:43:22.200 --> 00:43:27.880 beats Apple to an underd display 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:32.640 fingerprint scanner but they say that uh the technology 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:37.880 still has a way to go I mean that's how it sometimes is where people are like 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:41.000 yeah apple never invented anything whereas a lot of the time Apple doesn't 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:46.119 invent it they just kind of come along and use it when when it's actually 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:52.160 mature enough yeah to be clear it's a it's a uh Qualcomm technology yeah um so 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:58.079 this is an ultra Sonic fingerprint solution offering integration beneath 00:43:55.319 --> 00:44:04.599 OLED displays up to 1 2 mm thick like that's pretty thick a fair amount for an 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:06.280 OLED um as well as aluminum even that's 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:11.520 freaking cool that's pretty like if the whole phone imagine this if you could 00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:16.359 have like if you could have like uh just to unlock your phone is like easy like 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:20.160 it's just one and then to access your encrypted folder you have to put like 00:44:18.319 --> 00:44:23.240 all five fingers on it or you have to like can you imagine that would be 00:44:21.520 --> 00:44:27.359 pretty cool so if you had like you could have like the the fingerprint down here 00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:31.280 and then like all four fingers on the back have to engage yes that' be pretty 00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:34.680 neat I would love that it have to be really accurate for that first gen 00:44:32.720 --> 00:44:38.800 stuff's not going to have that but that's the kind of stuff I'd love to see 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:43.079 in the future um apparently it works even when the device is immersed in 00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:46.880 water which is a huge problem with existing fingerprint sensors and it 00:44:45.359 --> 00:44:51.160 tolerates to be fair not not because you're like swimming with your phone all the time but like if it's raining or 00:44:50.040 --> 00:44:58.359 something like that if it's a little bit wet it can be really annoying or like if you sweat as much as I do I mean like 00:44:56.440 --> 00:45:02.119 sports not not just in like I'm not I'm not sweaty right now I mean I touched 00:45:00.240 --> 00:45:06.280 your shirt so I could be as sweaty as you 00:45:03.680 --> 00:45:13.119 know yeah he's good he's scientific tests very scientific 00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.640 test oh that that was really awkward I 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:19.440 have problems with fingerprint scanners though um because I have as you know 00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:23.000 annoyingly sweaty hands you're not nearly as bad as when I met you yeah 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:25.680 when I met you it was like fullon hyperhydrosis 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:34.000 like it has gotten a little bit better um I would go out of my way to like not 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:38.440 touch him like when I shook hands at his interview I was just like can I hire 00:45:36.680 --> 00:45:41.599 this guy I also used to like like if I went on a let's get personal here for a 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:46.559 second if I went on a date with someone I would like avoid that you would avoid 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:52.480 hand holding so you would just straight grab her by the I'd do like ARM over 00:45:50.040 --> 00:45:57.040 or I don't go no I don't go Trump Style with that but I'd try to go like ARM 00:45:54.119 --> 00:46:01.640 over shoulders or like like something I would even do the like joking ARM in ARM 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:05.920 we're being funny old school thing wow that's cringe dude well I would do it as 00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:10.160 a joke to be clear but I would do that for like a couple seconds to try to show 00:46:07.839 --> 00:46:13.680 like I'm not being standoffish but also I'm going to do this as a joke and then 00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:19.319 stop because I don't want to hold your hand wow because I was like yeah it's 00:46:16.359 --> 00:46:26.440 pretty gnarly it's it's it's mostly fine now okay um yeah how's it going so 00:46:23.720 --> 00:46:30.280 anyway vivo's xplay 6 demonstrated the technology the demo started off with a 00:46:28.640 --> 00:46:34.240 fingerprint registration process that requested blah blah blah etc etc then 00:46:32.680 --> 00:46:42.960 the user would be able to unlock the phone by touching the spot where they did the setup process or somewhere else 00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:47.079 um so fingerprint recognition speed in this implementation is slower than the 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:50.359 near instantaneous unlock we expect from normal fingerprint scanners about a 00:46:48.680 --> 00:46:54.160 second between the first touch and entering the home screen but they said 00:46:52.720 --> 00:46:58.400 the same Tech could be applied across the entire screen oh wait no hold on F 00:46:56.440 --> 00:47:02.319 oh yeah so they touched a different area just above the old fingerprint button um 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:06.400 so instead they might eventually cover just the bottom half of the screen 00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:10.720 rather than the whole screen um to save cost and yeah same Tex shown on the back 00:47:09.319 --> 00:47:16.440 of the phone's body allowing it to be unlocked even when placed in water 00:47:12.319 --> 00:47:18.200 pretty cool yeah I really like like I 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:25.280 very much like the fingerprint unlock on the back of the pixel I'm a huge fan of 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:27.119 that um are we going into this yeah I 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:32.440 don't know should we or is it just boring I want to talk about ethereum 00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:38.000 mining this is a really quick one but this was uh posted on futurism and the 00:47:34.359 --> 00:47:38.000 original post on the Forum was Ginger 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:45.559 137 and the headline kind of says it all there's not not a whole lot more to say 00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:49.400 at this point ethereum could be using more than an entire country's worth of 00:47:47.839 --> 00:47:54.319 electricity now of course we don't mean like China or the us or whatever um oh 00:47:53.240 --> 00:48:00.880 hi guys but um I think the the country that 00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:06.440 we were talking about was oh a small country Cyprus um so a 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:15.839 bit more than what consumed by the island of Cypress so 4.2 terawatt 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:15.839 hours wow that's pretty 00:48:16.160 --> 00:48:22.240 insane so one major reason for this is the power hungry graphics cards that are 00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:28.200 involved but this might not be the case for long ethereum has plans to move away 00:48:24.680 --> 00:48:30.640 from its existing energy intensive 00:48:28.200 --> 00:48:34.440 algorithms so there you go I wonder what that means for people's Hardware if it's 00:48:32.720 --> 00:48:41.240 just an algorithm thing like will that rebalance what is better at it it means 00:48:37.200 --> 00:48:43.839 a lot of cheap 580s on the uh on 00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:48.319 eBay hopefully because honestly I was talking to someone the other day buying 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:53.960 a computer right now kind of sucks holy crap it's a great time to buy a CPU yeah 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:57.319 but okay but on the counterargument and people are going to hate me for this but 00:48:56.160 --> 00:49:01.680 it's kind of rough to get into PC gaming 00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:05.920 right now and I actually see a lot of people going like okay well the graphics 00:49:04.160 --> 00:49:12.280 card that I want is going to cost more than the freaking console yep and like 00:49:09.040 --> 00:49:13.640 it's hard to justify yep it's genuinely 00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:18.240 a little bit hard to justify it's cuz the graphics cards are so expensive and 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:22.480 if I'm AMD I certainly want to sell graphics cards for as much as I can of 00:49:20.200 --> 00:49:25.760 course why not or NVIDIA for that matter although NVIDIA has been a little less 00:49:24.240 --> 00:49:29.760 popular on the whole ethereum mining side of things and like seen some stuff 00:49:27.720 --> 00:49:32.839 where people are trying to snipe out stores because certain stores aren't 00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:36.799 increasing their prices because they're just trying to go for MSRP and RAM too 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:40.599 there's a worldwide Dam shortage that's expected to last well into next year 00:49:38.640 --> 00:49:46.119 it's great for companies like Corsair cuz it's hilarious like RAM makers like 00:49:43.160 --> 00:49:51.839 Corsair and Kingston where they they buy modules and then sell them uh it's great 00:49:49.520 --> 00:49:55.359 for them because as much as it's frustrating for them to not be able to 00:49:53.440 --> 00:50:00.920 get as much allocation as they'd like to sell they're margin on a product like 00:49:58.040 --> 00:50:05.160 that is kind of set cuz there's a lot of competitors out there and everybody's 00:50:02.319 --> 00:50:11.240 kind of in that 7 to 12% range pretty much give or take but even though 00:50:07.799 --> 00:50:14.160 they're selling less what they do sell 00:50:11.240 --> 00:50:21.280 hits their um hits their revenue numbers a lot harder so they're doing more 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:24.440 revenue and making 10% let's say on a $ 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:27.240 transaction versus making 10% on a $100 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:34.599 transaction having to do all the same fixed cost things so thep the processing 00:50:31.160 --> 00:50:39.559 fee Transportation marketing uh 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:43.559 packaging yeah hey that's great for them 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:45.960 um speaking of the memory business rip 00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:50.480 Lexar memory cards this was posted by shutter Boy on The Forum the original 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:56.240 article here is from petapixel but crucial I don't know if 00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:59.000 you guys know this but uh Micron parent 00:50:56.240 --> 00:51:06.280 company of crucial and Lexar um Micron just kind of went yeah 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:08.640 you know what um compared to the 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:16.079 lucrative business of selling flash to companies like Amazon and 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:18.559 Google um selling like SD cards is a 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:23.799 Fool's errand due to those low margins and low volumes all that packaging and 00:51:20.839 --> 00:51:27.920 all that marketing involved in what this tiny transaction this is stupid so 00:51:25.799 --> 00:51:32.520 they're just like forget it and they are shutting down their removable storage 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:37.079 retail business I hope they don't shut down crucial because their Facebook page 00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:40.880 is hilarious other products that are being killed off include USB flash 00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:46.720 drives memory card readers and storage drives which honestly I'm kind of not 00:51:43.720 --> 00:51:49.400 stoked on because the only prograde card 00:51:46.720 --> 00:51:53.920 readers that we could find are those Lexar ones that we're using our sco up a 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:57.799 few I'm not even kidding we we might even do that although I did run into 00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:02.240 someone at PEX that's making something that looks really Pro and that has SSD 00:52:00.160 --> 00:52:06.680 and red Meg versions as well they're like rack mount and you can and their 00:52:04.319 --> 00:52:10.400 modular so I'll look into those they run off Thunderbolt too and our ingest 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:13.960 stations are Thunderbolt so we'll see yeah but if that doesn't pan out or if 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:18.880 that product sucks Lexar is all I kind of got um but 00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.520 the decision was made as part of the company's ongoing efforts to focus on 00:52:20.839 --> 00:52:27.200 its increasing opportunities in higher value markets and 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:29.160 channels so basically like Lexar 00:52:27.200 --> 00:52:34.559 products suck it uh they are exploring opportunities 00:52:32.720 --> 00:52:39.240 to sell all or part of the Lexar business but what that means is 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:43.400 basically that Lexar won't be Lexar yeah in much the same way that the sharp is 00:52:41.680 --> 00:52:47.680 trying to get their brand back in North America because they're actually suing 00:52:45.160 --> 00:52:55.040 over high sense I believe it's high sense I'm going to double check before I 00:52:49.720 --> 00:52:58.040 like disar a brand um sharp high sense 00:52:55.040 --> 00:53:01.119 lawsuit I think yeah yeah sharp saying 00:52:58.040 --> 00:53:04.000 that high sense's shoddily manufactured 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:07.440 TVs are hurting their brand image what even though they were the ones who sold 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:11.359 the business unit to high sense they sold it can they do anything about that 00:53:09.359 --> 00:53:16.359 I don't know but it explains you know how we go to CES and we're like what the 00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:22.839 heck is high sense yeah why are they even here yeah now I finally get it 00:53:20.160 --> 00:53:28.520 yes um what else what else we got for this week there's not a ton there 's 00:53:26.680 --> 00:53:31.280 that weird Canada thing which might affect other people so I don't know we 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:35.640 might want to talk about that there's the tech PowerUp thing I'm wondering on 00:53:33.160 --> 00:53:39.799 your opinion on that actually okay I'm sorry I really haven't looked into this 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:44.799 oh and there's um it's there's not a ton to look into it you can look into it 00:53:41.680 --> 00:53:46.640 really quick so um should I start on it 00:53:44.799 --> 00:53:50.799 sure having not read it uh was posted on the Forum by eyes can't see over 24 FPS 00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:55.680 and that was the only way we were going to get me to say those words Al together 00:53:53.640 --> 00:54:00.799 in that order very very funny you know that's going to get you gigantic troll 00:53:58.040 --> 00:54:04.640 like really tightly clipped I know um and the original article here is from 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:11.599 delited tech.com which I've actually never heard of what's delited tech.com I 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:15.319 don't know wow this looks like a very 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:19.280 small site and I'm I'm not hating or 00:54:15.319 --> 00:54:22.599 anything um but basically the 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:25.559 controversy is over a tech 00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:30.599 PowerUp article that appeared to be an article anyway that was a comparison 00:54:27.720 --> 00:54:36.960 between AMD's radon rx560 and NVIDIA's GTX 1050 but that was actually an AMD ad 00:54:34.799 --> 00:54:40.280 the article reads like a review with no disclaimers within the article itself 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:46.200 that it comes from AMD or is sponsored by AMD the only ad markers on the page 00:54:43.319 --> 00:54:49.760 were advertorial by AMD off to the side on the top right and the author being 00:54:48.160 --> 00:54:55.400 named advertorial the article was posted 00:54:52.799 --> 00:55:02.559 directly in the review section of the site our Forum members apparently 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:04.119 disagree as to whether or not AMD 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:08.880 crossed the line I don't know why it wasn't linked but here's the actual 00:55:07.640 --> 00:55:15.160 thing if you want go okay so let's pull let's pull up the article here this does 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:20.760 look like an article so they're sponsored right there yeah advertorial 00:55:18.520 --> 00:55:24.400 by AMD okay this might be uh looks like it's been updated a little bit this 00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.400 might be 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:30.720 updated huh when I first saw this I I didn't check 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:35.720 for each individual location but when I first saw this I was not oh it says 00:55:33.359 --> 00:55:39.880 sponsored right there content by MD okay okay it looks like a few things have 00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:43.200 been added 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:50.720 huh interesting so did they run their own 00:55:48.839 --> 00:55:54.520 marks current in its current state what do you what do you think about the 00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:58.240 transparency okay so and it's current 00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:05.359 State the deled tech site doesn't seem to have 00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:07.559 huh oh I think there's a picture on there 00:56:08.160 --> 00:56:14.640 actually so yeah advertorial by AMD 00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:16.280 above the here let's go uh let's go over 00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:21.160 to deleted tech for a second here and show what it used to look like you just move to my oh no mine's screwed up yeah 00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:27.760 yours is screwed up right now sorry so you're going to want to this one yeah 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:31.760 yeah okay so here's what it used to look 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:33.720 like the uh the writer was advertorial 00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:38.520 it didn't say sponsored under the 560 logo say sponsored under the logo here 00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:43.319 and it said introduction as though it was an introduction to something yeah 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:47.799 but it did say avoral by MD over on the right so it wasn't like impossible to 00:56:45.720 --> 00:56:53.240 figure out what it was but I think the word 00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:56.240 advertorial is um a little misleading 00:56:53.240 --> 00:56:57.280 because in my mind an advertorial okay 00:56:56.240 --> 00:57:02.480 so it's like edutainment right yeah it's inherently 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:06.760 educational entertaining SS advert and tutorial and it's not a tutorial this 00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:11.119 isn't a tutorial at all here let's read it we'll read it together it's not like 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:14.559 how to use AMD graphics cards advertorial by AMD last year AMD 00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:18.079 introduced the first Polaris generation of gpus with it AMD delivered many new 00:57:16.640 --> 00:57:23.319 features along with great performance in the latest games and greatly improved 00:57:19.839 --> 00:57:26.880 efficiency like that is not a 00:57:23.319 --> 00:57:28.760 tutorial um be it orts or AA titles best 00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:33.000 value for the money at around €100 consistently smooth animation in popular 00:57:30.520 --> 00:57:35.920 games at 1080 avoids performance pit Falls caused by running out of video 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:41.599 memory due to 4 gig models being available okay none of that's a tutorial 00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:44.079 for only around €100 the radon rx560 outperforms the competition at this 00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:50.039 price point while showing the significant difference of upgrading from a previous generation is this their own 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:52.160 benchmarks so that's honestly where 00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:55.960 that's that's the one that I don't like um radon chill hold on hold on radon 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:59.960 chill saves power during games it does this in these kinds of titles there is 00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:05.520 no tutorial oh editorial not tutorial 00:58:05.839 --> 00:58:11.160 editorial is it 00:58:11.240 --> 00:58:15.920 interesting good call twitch chat okay I 00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:22.640 did not know that I always thought that an advertorial was an ad that was like 00:58:19.640 --> 00:58:25.760 how to use it I thought it was is what I 00:58:22.640 --> 00:58:28.520 think an advertorial should be by the 00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:34.240 way because I have no problem with that in fact that's something that I've been 00:58:30.359 --> 00:58:36.799 doing for years is like here's how to 00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:40.599 water cool your computer brought to you by some parts that you can use to do 00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:46.799 that but but all of these things I'm saying still apply to other stuff an 00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:50.559 advertorial the like proper definition is a newspaper or Magazine advertisement 00:58:48.839 --> 00:58:54.599 don't worry too much about that giving information about a product in the style 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:58.200 of an editorial or objective journalistic article 00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:04.000 okay so that's actually fairly transparent okay all right fine I don't 00:59:01.160 --> 00:59:08.240 like yeah so there's a couple things here 00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:13.000 number one is I think they're going to need to change says testing done by AMD 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:17.559 in the last paragraph yeah I think it should say that on the chart I think the 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:24.200 testing shouldn't be done by AMD for one thing um so even when we do so we've 00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:28.160 actually done a um here the closest 00:59:24.200 --> 00:59:30.079 thing that we've done was uh the te okay 00:59:28.160 --> 00:59:36.359 guys the testing done by AMD should be on the chart here this is the closest 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:41.359 thing we've done actually with AMD oh unskippable ads we have unskippable ads 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:47.640 they enable after a while so they're on our um our back catalog oh do we even do 00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:54.400 that no it's something that our MCN does automatically oh yeah okay can you build 00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:59.280 a 4K gaming PC for under $1,000 oh for some reason we're not 00:59:56.640 --> 01:00:03.559 looking at the beginning of it so we say something something something something 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:06.280 something AMD challenged us to do this 01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:12.839 blah blah blah hold on here we go is this the sponsored by AMD call out no I 01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:14.319 don't think so um but this was uh this 01:00:12.839 --> 01:00:21.079 was actually before some of those guidelines came into place and we uh let 01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:26.359 me see where else anyway I say it either two or three times in the video 01:00:23.799 --> 01:00:33.160 verbally um when we get to the benchmarks because AMD's argument to us 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:37.359 to for doing this piece was that you can 01:00:33.160 --> 01:00:40.440 play popular Esports titles at 60 FPS on 01:00:37.359 --> 01:00:43.799 their affordable for at 4k on their 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:45.440 affordable all AMD machine we ran these 01:00:43.799 --> 01:00:50.799 benchmarks ourselves and we told them we're not 01:00:48.119 --> 01:00:55.520 doing this video unless we can validate this ourselves yeah and that would have 01:00:52.960 --> 01:01:01.520 meant not taking the budget that happened 01:00:57.839 --> 01:01:04.520 letting AMD run their own 01:01:01.520 --> 01:01:07.599 benchmarks yes I think strictly speaking 01:01:04.520 --> 01:01:11.520 that does make it exactly as much of an 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:14.319 advertorial then as just an opinion but 01:01:11.520 --> 01:01:20.160 an editorial again and maybe you can hear want to be my definition man for a 01:01:16.240 --> 01:01:24.799 second here editorial my understanding 01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:28.319 means opinion and facts graphs and 01:01:24.799 --> 01:01:30.720 charts are not not opinions a newspaper 01:01:28.319 --> 01:01:34.720 article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a 01:01:32.680 --> 01:01:39.640 topical issue so really that's where the line 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:45.000 gets crossed for me because the disclosure is not quite good enough uh 01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:49.680 it should be in the title uh sponsored should be in the actual title 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:53.160 of the article uh according to like FTC guidelines like that actually needs to 01:01:51.119 --> 01:02:00.160 get done um all of this stuff is quite a bit 01:01:55.599 --> 01:02:03.200 better Now adoral by AMD but in my 01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:05.480 opinion these graphs should have either 01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:09.520 been run by tech power up or they shouldn't be here and it should just be 01:02:07.799 --> 01:02:13.079 an opinion at the very least in my opinion it needs to be very clear on the 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:17.480 graphs that these are graphs from the company and then personally that would 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:20.200 just make me not care and I'd move on people are saying the graphs serve as 01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:25.240 evidence for the opinion of the author but that's exactly it then it isn't an 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:30.559 editorial then it's not an opinion you can't say in my opinion this graphics 01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:35.400 card runs faster when you actually have fact I mean it's the whole blurry line 01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:37.839 between facts and opinion these days but 01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:45.119 once it's been quantitatively measured in a way that is reproducible 01:02:40.799 --> 01:02:48.400 and defensible and adheres to the 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:52.839 scientific method once it's Quantified 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:57.839 it isn't an opinion anymore and a graph 01:02:52.839 --> 01:02:57.839 inherently suggests that it has been 01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:03.680 Quantified people are saying but AMD is the author that's fine but it still 01:03:01.799 --> 01:03:05.880 isn't an editorial and therefore isn't an 01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:13.000 advertorial so yeah 01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:18.200 um huh okay I mean as long as it's 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:22.599 disclosed it's sort of up to them and their relationship with their viewers uh 01:03:20.200 --> 01:03:28.599 for our part we do do sponsored content we've done sponsored content for years 01:03:25.279 --> 01:03:31.079 we say when it sponsored 01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:36.920 content I would love to say that we've never used anyone's numbers we've shown 01:03:34.279 --> 01:03:39.839 slides with a manufacturer's numbers generally speaking that would be before 01:03:38.359 --> 01:03:43.720 we get an opportunity to show our own numbers like at a launch event or when 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:47.480 it's being first unveiled at CES for example yeah um but then it's usually 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.480 clearly stated that that's their numbers but it's clearly stated that it is someone else's numbers not quite but 01:03:50.200 --> 01:03:54.960 probably almost every time that I've done that I've been like but we'll have 01:03:53.359 --> 01:03:58.760 to see when we can get it back into the office for testing of our own I mean 01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:03.319 with over 3,000 videos uploaded I don't want to say we've never shown anybody 01:04:00.319 --> 01:04:04.680 else's numbers but generally speaking 01:04:03.319 --> 01:04:08.359 that's where we draw our line clear disclosure and running our own 01:04:06.680 --> 01:04:13.240 validation against the claims of the manufacturer yeah in this case I can't 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:18.319 speak to their due diligence uh behind the scenes except to say that this graph 01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:25.119 doesn't look like it was produced by them it looks like it was produced by AMD for all I know they ran the 01:04:21.720 --> 01:04:27.520 numbers but I I don't don't have a way 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:31.119 of that performance by AMD oh no that's right it does down at the very bottom 01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:35.319 yeah uh testing done by AMD performance Labs March 1st 2017 using a core 01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:43.839 i76700k oh boy 01:04:39.160 --> 01:04:45.480 um yeah so I'm not going to say look 01:04:43.839 --> 01:04:50.079 sponsored content shouldn't exist I'm just going to say it needs to be clearly 01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:54.079 disclosed and for me 01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:54.079 personally um 01:04:55.799 --> 01:05:01.200 I'm very careful about any claims that are 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:05.400 made in our publication that I couldn't stand behind 01:05:04.279 --> 01:05:11.720 whether I was the one who ran the numbers or whether it was my idea or whether it was someone else's idea um 01:05:09.279 --> 01:05:15.240 even in sponsored content and it's up to tech power up to manage their 01:05:13.640 --> 01:05:20.720 relationship with their audience and their trust with their audience um in 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:28.160 terms of how they want to proceed with this 01:05:23.359 --> 01:05:30.000 there yeah interesting one more topic um 01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:35.000 I'm kind of done okay yeah that's boring that's boring oh 01:05:33.200 --> 01:05:39.440 okay this is kind of cool pet yeah yeah coaxial gamer posted this on the for 01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:47.240 original article from overclock 3d. net tashiba produces the world's first 4 bit 01:05:42.720 --> 01:05:50.240 per cell so that's qlc nand flash memory 01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:52.279 so the endurance on this stuff will suck 01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:57.160 um like we're talking a handful of right Cycles 01:05:54.839 --> 01:06:05.440 compared to what SLC would have been capable of if it still existed but um 01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:08.480 great for write once read many many 01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:10.720 times kinds of applications because it 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:16.480 will be really cheap so we're talking capacities of up to 96 gigabyt of 01:06:13.160 --> 01:06:20.079 storage per die allowing Toshiba to 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:22.039 create a 1.5 terab SSD package with a 16 01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:27.640 die stacked architecture so they're going to demo it at the 2017 flash 01:06:23.839 --> 01:06:29.920 Summit in August uh there's x299 boards 01:06:27.640 --> 01:06:35.480 bad vrm cooling oh yeah that's a big sort of thing I think we did tease that 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.880 so uh yeah uh we should probably talk 01:06:35.480 --> 01:06:41.559 about it I've seen this guy's videos before I think you pronounced the 01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:44.440 channel derau yep der I met him yeah yes 01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:50.440 I've good videos actually but um der posted a video uh showing that the vrms 01:06:46.640 --> 01:06:52.799 on an x299 board were reaching 100 degre 01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:58.240 and the single 8 Pin connectors for the power supply can hit 60° when over 01:06:55.599 --> 01:07:04.400 talking the 10 core models so here's derau good guy Pro overclocker um 01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:08.960 actually makes the derau delting tool which he gave us one of nice which 01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:15.599 pretty pretty sick yeah um and he has some serious concerns about x299 and how 01:07:13.359 --> 01:07:19.319 much time the motherboard manufacturers had to work on their designs to make 01:07:17.160 --> 01:07:23.119 sure that they were cooled correctly and not just that but um if you're 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:30.240 interested in that kind of stuff go watch his video he does good stuff but given that the motherboard manufacturers 01:07:26.520 --> 01:07:33.119 also got blindsided by any CPUs with a 01:07:30.240 --> 01:07:36.359 core count over 12 it's not just a matter of being rushed but also a matter 01:07:34.680 --> 01:07:41.279 of not having enough information potentially to design a board that is 01:07:38.640 --> 01:07:46.720 actually capable of handling this to be fair he was testing with one of 10 yes 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:52.319 the 10 cor models but yeah so it so it can't get any better it can only get 01:07:48.839 --> 01:07:54.319 worse is sort of the point yeah okay 01:07:52.319 --> 01:08:00.680 there's there's one more topic we can gloss over it a little bit but want to 01:07:56.240 --> 01:08:05.039 some people information if no 01:08:00.680 --> 01:08:06.400 um Peta ransomware okay um I do really 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:14.480 want to give a call out for the guy on the Forum that posted this thread WM 01:08:09.720 --> 01:08:16.880 groom AK has done a very very good job 01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:22.480 of keeping this up to date with really good article linking really good quoting 01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:24.520 really good updates um condensing big 01:08:22.480 --> 01:08:29.359 updates on other sites down into easy digestible things so if you're 01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:32.440 interested in the world of viruses and 01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:34.400 hacking and ransomware and wipers and 01:08:32.440 --> 01:08:40.600 everything else definitely go check out this thread I just post it in the chat 01:08:36.080 --> 01:08:42.000 awesome um and there's a lot of crazy 01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:46.080 information in there there's there's a bit of a developing story yeah so you 01:08:44.040 --> 01:08:48.799 can maybe if we cover this now and someone watches the show in three days 01:08:47.400 --> 01:08:54.120 it's not going to be up to dat all our notes are wrong and not because James is 01:08:51.679 --> 01:08:57.560 a bad person but because it has literally all changed it's been changing 01:08:56.040 --> 01:09:02.679 since he made his notes so so so go check out that thread it's being updated 01:08:59.440 --> 01:09:05.239 like it it was last updated like 01:09:02.679 --> 01:09:09.920 slightly over an hour ago y like after the show was even supposed to start 01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:15.640 technically before the show started but yeah um it it's it's parading as 01:09:12.799 --> 01:09:19.960 ransomware it's actually a wiper uh apparently the email account has been 01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:23.839 closed by the email hosting service that was hosting it so even if you try to pay 01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:28.120 to get your thing back they can't receive the email so not going to be 01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:32.719 able to give you a key to unlock your device like it's it's it's a mess right 01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:40.199 now and if you're really interested in that stuff I would check out that thread it's it's very well up to date it even 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:44.319 includes like the Bitcoin wallet address that people are sending money to so you 01:09:42.080 --> 01:09:48.400 can see like how much money they've made so far and everything like it's yeah 01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:53.040 it's good all right so thanks for watching guys and uh we will see you 01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:57.040 again next week same bat Time same bat Channel bye 01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:03.719 you're like out out right yeah 01:10:09.320 --> 01:10:13.970 okay 01:10:14.080 --> 01:10:20.930 wles oh okay it doesn't matter it doesn't matter I'm not trying to hide it 01:10:17.719 --> 01:10:24.579 it's just oh okay