and okay we're actually live this time
woo we got that going no problem no big deal not a thing yeah oh is a thing but
it's a it's an okay thing so we've got a great show for you guys today I'm here
Luke's here and uh John might be making
an appearance really for one specific topic oh do we have another legal topic
yeah oh I see you know those are actually some of the most interesting
ones for me he'll go off on some where he's like
I'll have some misconception or whatever and he'll go off he'll be like well
actually it works this way or in this
specific state or whatever it turns out that I got an education for a reason and
you probably should have gone to school and you know oh no I disagree with that
for your specific use case not for everybody really okay you know what's
funny is I actually had lunch with a local content producer yeah um earlier
this week like she she does like this
kind of vertically integrated content production for uh business professionals
okay that's like about stocks and like
business tips and stuff like that and apparently their program actually airs
uh among other things on one of Fox's things like a fox business thing okay
and then also on like Air Canada flights like very old media yeah you know like
relationships with you know know National Airlines and like Network TV
and um anyway so she wanted to have lunch I had no idea what she wanted uh
basically we did like a studio tour Taran was instructed by someone who
works with her doing some stuff over at
BCIT and the funny thing is Taran brought me into their studio so that I
could see how like a proper company does things and maybe we should have edit
Suites and maybe we should have this and maybe we should have that and it turned
out that in much the same way as us they learned as they went and there were a
lot of things they did better than us and there are a lot of things we do better than them so that was
enlightening and fun did they do edit Suites uh they do have edit Suites that
was what he wanted me to see what he didn't want me to see was all the other
kind of janky stuff like the fact that they literally have footage archived on
betas still whoa yeah but remember
broadcast TV that was a thing but you'd think you'd move it a lot more recently
where you would actually be submitting finished projects by mailing a beta mag
t or not a beta Max sorry it's like they were two different standards yeah like
the the the broadcast tape version and like the one that competed with VH
anyway the point the point is they still have like a sh and this is after they
cleaned up they have like a shelf of betas and I'm like You're great and uh I
was telling them about the Vault and stuff and they're like yeah that would be pretty cool and Tan's like yeah yeah
that's pretty useful maybe I don't have an editing Suite but I do have that
anyway the point is um she asked me to have lunch with her and um she she
didn't really tell me what it was about it turned out she wanted me to talk some
sense into her son okay who had this idea in his head that he was going to he
has two videos uploaded to YouTube and you know you probably get this all the
time too right people being like how do I be a successful YouTuber especially on
my not to plug it but especially on my stream yeah especially on your streams
cuz like you have which is hilarious because my stream sucks and like nobody
watches it and people ask me how to be a successful streamer and I'm like you think I know I'm glad you said that
because I was going to crap on your stream a little bit yeah no it's ter I was going to be like yeah like and your
stream's not even that big or anything
and charity like but you have a lot more success streaming than like you know how
it's like the first thousand subscribers on YouTube is the hardest right you've
passed that first handful of twitch subscribers never took a further step
and phoned it in the rest of the way but you clearly know enough to know
a thing that people would ask you about it anyway so so usually when people ask
that question it starts with yeah I just uploaded my first video or I just did my
first stream what would you recommend and the guy's like yeah so I want to do
like a um like a fitness clothing line
and I want to do like a fitness lifestyle Vlog and uh and way way to
compete against everyone yeah and it was
funny because his mom's giving me
additional details like yeah he wants me to pay for plane tickets so he can like
travel interesting places for his lifestyle Vlog of course and so I was
like yeah all right bro one I'm not
going to side with your mom and and just
say straight up stay in school could be a decent strategy because I didn't
nothing don't worry about it really
I mean if she's got plane tickets go all around the world okay all right I
thought you were going somewhere else with that no no totally
no anyway yeah I'm not siding with his
mom directly cuz like the whole school thing didn't work out very well for me
but I was also like on the other hand dude if you're going to succeed as a
social media influencer you won't succeed unless you have a the passion
and B the dve slor ethic to do it on the
side yeah so if you don't have anything better to do then stay in school but
don't lose track of that this should be your full-time side project yeah and
that was sort of the advice that I gave and the guy like he looked like I you
know punched him in the stomach well and I was bigger than I
am my biggest thing oh my goodness thank you Nick um my biggest thing is like the
the Nick as should be paying me for this yeah I've been drinking out of this
bottle on W show for years yeah you can
call out that person who uh you called out in the super fun yeah okay maybe
I'll do that I don't think he controls any budget spending there so it won't do
me any good but that's fine um hey Seuss
pay us the money for product placement okay see you can never get money for
product placement if you have product placement all over your stuff for free
anyway people are everyone looks at it and they just go why so why would I pay
for this you're do any ever done a success straight up product placement
deal I don't think so we tried to do
something with a smartwatch like with Pebble I think like a thousand years ago
and then Pebble wouldn't even send us review samples and then they got bought
yeah so that's about how successful we've been whatever yeah maybe they
should have done that that marketing spot anyway um okay so my thing
especially people are in his specific position where you're like he's uploaded
two videos yes my whole thing is like I don't care and you shouldn't
upload way more that's your big problem right now is you just need to do it a
whole bunch because there's going to be things that you're missing doing it
doing it learn from doing it yeah okay anyway like a you know all right let's
roll the intro
I don't know if the uh the L show announcement went up oh it did look at
that LTX I'm actually getting a lot more
confident that this is going to be a lot of fun yeah um the case toss was really
fun we put uh we put actually we put Colton's wife in charge of the event
yeah because previously we had Colton in
charge um because they had such a wonderful and well organized wedding and
then we found out that of course he had nothing to do with it so we hired his
wife and she is doing a bang up job so
far there is going to be a lot of fun stuff to do also fresh books yay woo
fresh books and EK water
blocks now hold on a second actually you know what I'll get into it in the
sponsor spot but that is not as crazy as it sounds yeah that whole thing that I
just put on the screen there
uh okay so first uh first topic you know
you know what let's jump right into the good stuff today the original article here is from
PC perspective and it was posted on the Forum by E kin and our buddy Mr the one
and only Ryan shastic got his hand on an AMD Vega
Frontier Edition and how he did this I
can tell you he bought it the same as we
had to ours is in the mail okay AMD is
not sampling Frontier Edition why might they not oh actually
you know what's really funny is I didn't even read the article purchased directly
from a reseller rather than being
sampled from AMD um so why didn't they
want to sample this to press well there are a number of uh potential
explanations for that can you think of any uh well they've been moving this way
for a while they okay that's true on the
professional cards the fire fire class cards and actually kind of both sides
have been moving this way a little bit inv Vidia has still been on their gaming
cards have been pushing really hard but AMD for a little while now has been
saying that they don't want to give out as many reviewer sample cards cuz they want to do more seeding into the
community and NVIDIA did not sample the Titan xpp yeah we have a video coming
featuring it soon but we borrowed it from somebody and they're trying to line
this card up more against those that's true okay my now I'm going to contribute
a potential reason uh potential reason number two yields are very low and they
don't have a lot of them yeah okay so that might be another one you got
another one um I doubt this is a thing MH but even
maybe everyone is buying every single card everywhere for AMD right now
because of mining okay okay so they like know that it will sell immediately so
price so rather than giving away literally money in the bank which when
you're AMD and like with their press right now
they might not even need reviews of this thing because everyone talking about AMD
stuff is super popular right now and very positive right now so it's going to
be popular and positive anyways and then everyone's buying it anyways because of
mining so they might not even need the marketing that they would get from
sending it okay which brings us then to reason number four which I actually
think might be the most likely Vega does
not look like it is going to set the world on on fire and AMD and for that
matter um I mean who hasn't done this
but AMD has demonstrated in the past a a
lower level of eagerness to seed
products that they don't think are going
to be as exciting in an attempt to if
not limit independent coverage of them
at least not spend money on getting
independent coverage of them so let's
give a a brief outline of what it is so the Vega Founders Edition is not
explicitly aimed at Gamers Frontier Edition sorry I did that
a lot on the announcement video like really you guys I actually might have
another Walkin the park coming on AMD's naming schemes cuz I'm getting real Fed
Up um so the Vega Frontier Edition like
almost sort of copy everyone else yeah not explicitly aimed at Gamers uh like
NVIDIA Titans we shouldn't expect the best performance per dollar okay uh
gaming results though and this is this is kind of uh this kind of throws up
some warning flags because with gaming results between a GTX 1070 and a
1080 priced at $1,000 for the 300 watt
version this tells us a couple things number one is that and that's the air
cooled one and $1,500 for the 375 watt
water cooled one that tells us we are pretty close to the the limit of what
this chip is capable of and there there
isn't a lot of magic sauce we did a video kind of covering this a little
while ago it was a holy Shiite episode
that we did um where we we like uh $6,000 graphics card we game on
it the amount of R&D that goes into
building a GPU is such that you should
be very surprised if there is a specific product
created for Quadro versus GeForce yeah
it's the same product it's the same silicon and in much the same way AMD's
Frontier Edition silicon will be the same silicon it give or take it might be
set up and utilized or whatever in different ways and the memory paired
with it might be different units here and the logic on board might be a little
bit different a tweak here and there but the amount of money involved in
building a GPU is incredible so if you
are expecting then the gaming versions of Vega to come in and crush
the GTX 10 1080 let alone the 1080 TI
you are setting yourself up for a major
disappointment and I'm sure that the AMD fans in twitch chat are freaking out
right now I'm specifically not looking at it because I really don't care I'm
laying down some reality here and that's the way it's going to be there is some
driver optimization to be done and AMD has been notorious for this the 5870 is
a perfect example of a product that
managed to get faster enough through driver releases that when they rebadged
it it ended up being it ended up not looking that bad when you looked at
launch reviews of the rebadged one versus launch reviews of the original
one but you can't expect more than it's
not going to double in speed driver optimizations will give you a little bit
but the Silicon is by and large not going to change yeah the clock speed is
by and large not going to change because it's a 300 watt part at $9.99 AMD's
closest thing to a competitor is probably going to be somewhere in the
neighborhood of a GTX 1070 to 1080 in terms of performance
so AMD may not have abandoned the high
endend but it does look like cuz they're not even talking about like a high end
Vega architecture product right now not at all they do seem to have abandoned
whether by choice or whether by strategy the enthusiest The Very extreme highend
I like using rise of the Tomb Raider as a standard Benchmark we use it in a lot
of different scales really well CPU and GPU and and multi GPU even and the Vega
Fe only managed to beat out the 1070 by
about a 4 to 5% lead which is at that price like really
not great so um it's not a gaming card no
it's not and we don't know anything about what pricing of Vega gaming like
what are they going to call it R9 Vega or something I don't I don't I don't remember what they're going to call it
but um a lot of times you can
get a rough idea of how it will perform in things that aren't gaming by using
games yes they're not unre they're not completely unrelated yeah but with that
said I believe uh is it fp16 something
there's there's some more um more professional grade features that make it
more comparable to quadros than a straight gaming card would that will
perform much better and may make Vega Frontier Edition very interesting for
workstation users because it will be similar in terms of performance to to a
p5000 Quadro but at about half the price
of that so at the very least if you if
you were wondering about buying like this crazy tiered AMD card for gaming
like maybe don't maybe that's what we know so far
or at the very least like wait until the gaming version of it arrives and we can
see kind of what we're what we're dealing with here even PC purse
conclusion is like title marked conclusion do do dot for now or
something like that so like yeah I don't think it's a huge
deal um yeah I mean unless you were
looking into this card at as a gamer's perspective but that's not what it is no
and it's not how it's priced yeah I am shocked that they had the guts to do a
water cooled card again like that looked
like a desperation tactic last time the fury X was a commercial failure utter
commercial failure and could you buy I
don't think you could buy a furyx air cooled though right no so this is a
versioning thing they have an aired
one Fury X again yeah yeah yeah
um yeah that's
fair yeah we've got people in the chat I'm finally I'm finally looking at the
chat I've decided to subject myself to that uh age core 123 is like AMD fans
equal NVIDIA fans and then there's some Emoji I can't see cuz it's too small and
yeah the recent War has I talked about this a little bit on the last show to
the recent War has been kind of interesting cuz everything that people are fighting about are these like
outside of the tears of what they're probably shopping for products it is
funny thing so weird uh the percentage
of people that are actually interested in buying a $1,000 graphics card cuz if
AMD can get this priced right then you know it yeah it'll Stomp all over a 1060
but if it consumes like 300 watts yeah I
don't know we'll you know what how about this why don't we cross that bridge when
we get to it in the me that's what we know for now also our Vega Frontier
Edition is coming so we're going to run all of our own numbers and make our own
video and you can probably save yourself the trouble of watching it by reading
shrout's review but am I allowed to say that yeah I mean who's going to who's
going to fire me
but lus you're fired damn
it crap I'll have to go to my other job
yeah I'll have to go work work for Floatplane club like
he yeah yeah would you hire me yeah yes
yeah yeah I would you'd be pretty expensive but all right I feel like that
investment would pay itself off so the original article for our next news story
is overclock 3d. net AMD announces their
new risen pro series of desktop CPUs and
I I got to confess I was a little bit
confused initially by the announcement
of ryzen pro because I kind of went well
what makes a processor Pro other than being a
processor nothing I get nothing for processor sorry I'm replying to
Something in the chat I hate you can you there I can I pretend that
that laugh was for my joke the best part too is you made a joke and I didn't
laugh because I was answering a question of someone going really Luke laughing
again everything's funny I'm just like you know what I enjoy things and I find
things funny maybe we do WAN Show at the
end of the day on Friday so we can kind of loosen up a little bit like hang out
for the first time this week because we almost never see each other this week
was pretty good this week was pretty good there was a few times yeah yeah da
zore HK yeah I just enjoy laughing at
things yeah you know what laughter is the best medicine I even got un you need
chemotherapy in which case chemotherapy is probably the best medicine might go
do yes so laughter is the best medicine
for if you're not actually sick if you're not actually sick okay anyway so
I was sitting there going what makes something a
processor and my got him jeez and my my initial answer
to that was the obvious one ECC support
okay yeah okay okay so you can use server memory that um has automatic
error Corrections that are going going on the fly in case there's like you know
a solar flare that flips a bit or whatever and you your your freaking you
know freen ass ZFS array gets corrupted
irreparably like that that's a prole feature but the funny thing about that
is that ryzen has ECC support they didn't fuse
it off the way that Intel does on all of their consumer chips even ones that cost
,000 which I I think is unreasonable because they're worried about um they're
worried about cannibalizing their ENT prise chips they're
xeons um so what they do do though and
this didn't occur to me initially is they offer Windows 10 Enterprise
security support AES 128bit memory
encryption and a longer warranty with
that said a 36-month warranty is what they used to offer anyway but hey okay I
mean sure it's also a processor so whether it's AMD or Intel they're both
pretty good about their CPUs not just like randomly failing how many times
have you had a processor die I had an opteron 165 die I deserved
it was it your fault I had
it how do I put this um yes I'm hold yes
no I didn't like drop it on the floor but you like overvolted the tar off of
it just can you just relax okay yeah okay so I had it chilled to minus 25°
okay I'm not going to finish the story
okay all right all right so so it was not really the processor so I had that
coming I'm not I'm not yeah so zero so
far do you have anymore um no I'm also
at zero so like it's probably fine the
pro series will come okay now to be clear I have had like test bench chips
die was that the the old school Chiller
yes oh that's pretty cool that's the chiller we haven't thrown it away I might resurrect it someday just for LS
you should do that as a video it would be a great actually it would be a great video that would be really fun get Alex
to help you with it and like modernize it a little bit get it in a cooler box
than just Proto case to do something up for us nice I like this project that
would actually be really sick and then we could use it like on our test benches and stuff that would be really sick we'd
have to do up a new block for it because the block I used to use for it was a
dangered end TDX and that was out of pure cheapness maybe you can follow up
the like terrible heat sink guides with like a we professionally designed our
own heat sink Terri Chiller
guide I I would love personally I would love watching that that would be great
um so I was actually using highly not recommended so with people are asking
for the story but keep going with antifreeze um and water as coolant
because once you're going down to no no sorry that's not what you use you use a
windshield deicer so that's actually like an alcohol based coolant so I was
using that at like sub 25
actually a little more than that on the actual cools about sub35 I was using
that in an acrylic block oh so you
leaked onto it no no I didn't I didn't no that survived no no I'm just saying
that that block still exists we still have it but it is so full of micro
Cracks around the fittings that it is terrifying so I was using it out of
cheapness because I just assumed it would have cracked at that point whatever block I used in this
contraption had to have like industrial glue put on it so that could put all of
my like neoprene insulation and crap all over it and um so it was basically a
write off and that was at a time that so A well you're supposed to use an all
metal block yeah preferably all the same metal yeah um so that the expansion and
contraction isn't of different Metals yeah um so preferably you're supposed to
do that but those back then I would have been buying like a water cool I think it
was called the heat killer 3.0 or something like that or whatever it would have been at the time those were 150
bucks all just silver not you could get silver ones but even the copper ones
were like they were like 80 or 90 or something stupid like that so um so I
was using like a crazy dumb thing anyway if we if we Ed the Partnerships that I
now have with like protoc case to do like a really nice enclosure for it and
like get EK to build us something like custom or something for it oh that would
be sick that would be a sick project and something that we could like pull out
with pride on the test bench when we want like yeah you know you know what
cuz we have more resources now we have more writers
us when it was just you and me we did some factory tours yes we did Omron we
did Sennheiser we did uh I feel like
there was another one I'm Miss uh yeah we did Cherry Cherry How Could You Forget Cherry like my yeah that was
where we popped our factory tour Cherry yeah it was it was great I think I think
I missed it because Sennheiser and Cherry were on the same trip they were
um but now going through like maybe
spending a couple days there mhm and like going through each station through
like the design process of a water block
go through like the guy that cads out the original files you know what we we
tried to do EK oh we actually were
thinking about doing it on the same trip as cherry and Sennheiser oh we couldn't
get it worked out because the budget required for all the travel and because
we do charge for those that is a sponsored type of project for us um they
couldn't make that work at the time but now that they're going a little bit more
mainstream and actually that might work we'll talk a little bit more about that
when we do our ad spot for w show today that's ekk spot uh maybe we could make
it work cuz I would love to see their would super cool their shop is sick yeah
and like if you can actually see like what goes into designing and building a
product and EK actually manufactures everything so they're not like all water
cooling companies that are designing somewhere and then Outsourcing to China
um EK actually owns their own manufacturing so it would be pretty cool
to see that that would be pretty sick um okay what else what else do we got okay
ryzen Pro um right we were talking about
that okay ryen Pro offers yet another advantage over Intel's I3 series
especially because those lack uh Intel V
Pro so um basically AMD is putting more
pressure on Intel and this time it's on the like professional and business
feature side which is definitely something that I can appreciate because
I mean you were talking about this the other day security and encryption is
going to become one of those things where like we might be sitting in a golden age of Hardware right now where
manufacturers are waking up to the need for encryption on their devices Apple
has to a great extent yeah and governments haven't outlawed it yet yeah
so think about this like 10 years from
now getting your hands on a ryzen pro
might be like a thing yeah for your like encrypted computer if you want encrypted
memory yeah think about that for a minute like
I'm not trying to go all tinfoil hat but it's no secret that governments around
the world articles in this W show that we haven't talked about yet that are
exactly in line with this yeah it's going to be uh it's going to be an
interesting time um AMD accidentally
reveals ryen 3 details w a is this like
a quote unquote accidentally or is this legitimately accidentally I can never
tell with those guys to be honest with you sometimes I suspect that it's quote
unquote accidentally other times I believe them that it's not accident I
don't know um anyway originally posted by Ryan Smith over at unon Tech well gee
if you were paying close attention to this morning's announcement of AMD's new ryzen Pro skes then you likely noticed
something interesting the non-x pro chips all have the same performance
specifications as their standard consumer counterparts specifically both
of the non X pro SKS with existing ryzen 5 and 7 counterparts have the same core
counts clock speeds and ttps as for the final two ryzen Pro 3 SKS well they
inadvertently showed their hand when it comes to the forthcoming ryzen
3 okay so I mean we are making some
assumptions here but it looks like uh
they've inadvertently revealed the ryzen 3 1300 and 1200 specs so the ryzen 3
looks like it'll be a quad core CPU without smt so that's four threads
rather than eight which in my opinion is what entrylevel
chips should have been at this point for a few years now uh that's give me one
quick second sorry you're good everything's fine don't worry about it
everything's okay is everything okay yeah it is does everything seem okay to you guys
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everyone's been talking about it in the chat and I was just going to completely IGN also just
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oh yeah fine we'll acknowledge it so
that'll be there but I'm not going to tell you any more about it oh other than
that uh that might be a lonus tech tips logo
there yeah that's all we'll say that's all we'll say about it so that'll be
there um we're probably hopefully going to have okay I'm kind of Tiff my hand a
little bit here but LTX is going to be freaking sick um we're going to have 15K
gaming there the cas TOS k i I don't know uh
it's on Floatplane right now yeah it's ch FL right now yeah it's it's not on
channel super on YouTube but we did like a a case toss to so show what it might
be like while you're at LTX there actually tons of fun yep um there's
going to be other examples of Booth there's going to be other types of
booths like guess how many CPUs are in a jar kind of like the old Jelly Bean
thing rocket league in real life uh video editing tips from Taran we're
literally going to take his Workstation and like transplant it over there and
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he's doing so it's July 29th from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and you can get your
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the G does that mean it includes like graphics card it does it includes a 1060
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unlike other aios it includes actual fittings it includes tubing that you can
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well okay all right yeah I know I I I
got the notification from Tyler that he was clearing the fridge out in 15
minutes and I got it 21 minutes ago oh
and he was going to throw away your food which I like don't even normally store
food here cuz I just have like soil in which you don't throw out which I have
for like breakfast and stuff but there's I had a bunch of food here that my
girlfriend cooked and she's the least domestic person ever and doesn't cook
but she's very excited about this stuff right now so if it all got thrown out
that would have been a very bad um right
yeah that would have been bad bad scene so I solved that good everything's fine
so you solved that by fishing it out of the garbage can putting it back in the
container and not telling her I think I I think in in Tyler's
regular style he said 15 minutes and it's probably like half an hour okay so
it just wasn't done yet okay uh we've got people asking why I'm using an
iPhone to be clear what I mean by that is he gave people a grace period not
that he's delayed uh I'm using an iPhone because I actually don't really care
right now um between Android and iOS and
I had to give the shooters my S8 which I
was using as my daily driver um to do
comparative b-roll against the OnePlus 5
and then I I just haven't gotten around to putting my sim back in the S8 I do intend to go back to the S8 how do you
feel about the notifications they're both awful in different ways okay cuz
that was like one thing that I hated about iOS when I used it for a fairly
short period of time was the notifications yeah um the problem is that Samsung in the I think it was the
marshmallow update nou nou update so
Samsung um even when you set your privacy settings people in the
chat uh even when you set your privacy settings to show your notifications on
your lock screen before you log in they changed it so that Gmail
notifications don't show
anymore so I actually have to unlock the phone like I can see I have Gmail
notifications but I can't see what they are okay yeah well you should have your
phone encrypted so it doesn't show what they are
anyways no I think yeah no it's encrypted but you should you should make
it so that it doesn't show anyway yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that was like in the security should should
should should should should but the point is I get too many notifications
for that to be perfectly Frank with you if certain emails come through you can
get super screwed yeah I guess that's possible
just show the subject subject line and like maybe the first few words but
there's not much there's some emails that can you can get screwed for I don't
get any like two Factor emails though like
that cuz I think that's the kind you're thinking of mostly yeah no yeah Okay no
Okay um so so yeah it it's really frustrating and uh yeah so anyway I just
haven't put my sim back in the S8 yet and I actually own two SmartWatches they
both sit on my bedside table on their Chargers and whichever phone I happen to
be using I just grab either an Android Wear or an Apple Watch wow
yep cuz I just don't care anymore at
this point I I am actually pretty psyched for the you know what here let's
blow through ryzen 3 oh that's the opposite of first world problems that's
just like first world excess sorry I have a matching phone for
I have a matching watch for my phone it's perfect all the time you know what
it's not that different from people who have watches for their outfits in fact
it's very different I only need two watches more practical that is not more
practical no your way oh oh I see I was
I was admitting a minor amount of defeat yeah um so anyway AMD accidentally
reveals Ryon 3 details it's quad core without smt it'll use the same dies
ryzen 5 and Ry 7 oh that's surprising actually luk don't get paid enough even
if I did I wouldn't do that four cores
distributed over two CCX but we saw that that wasn't a huge deal with the lower
end ryzen 5S same cash structure as ryzen 5400 blah blah blah blah blah blah
TDP will still this be the same 65 watt but as we know the TDP ratings for CPUs
like Intel rates all of their HDT chips
like 130 Watts y clearly the ones with
twice as many cores clearly consume more power yeah clearly so there's that just
like blanket statement whole areas um yeah I had wanted to chat about oh yeah
you know what well do you want to do this first or that why don't we do that
let's do that okay okay I realized what we're saying right now is very cryptic
but this is important if you are not
already on Floatplane this is the week well other than
like a scrap scrapyard Wars because unlike scrapyard Wars where we have one
piece of content that like half of our
community cannot wait to watch we have
four pieces of content right now that are behind the Early Access wall on
Floatplane that are freaking unreal but
they'll all be coming uh sometime in the next week so if you watched all of them
and I don't normally watch our videos even that
often well okay cuz I hear about everything that's going on and I'll like
talk to the writer that's working on it and know their conclusions and stuff wow
dick I'm just saying okay so LT video
exposing dead Mouse's Studio spoiler he's a huge geek this isn't even an LTT
video but do cell phones actually cause cancer it was an entertaining Tech to
make you probably know the answer I kind of hope but like it's it's a good thing
to send to people not everybody does or we wouldn't have made the video Fair um
LTT unboxing a quantum computer that was
very cool um that was awesome so was the
deadmouse one those were both really awesome LT the most important iPad video
in years which actually got Lost in Translation it's supposed to be the most important iPad in years but that's okay
we'll figure that out also there's a giraffe in the video which is why it
says gone wild see we're all about clickbait that's true yeah uh LT the
ultimate RGB build guide yes build
guides are back in a real way just to okay okay this one I'll
uh class distinction didn't know you could do that I'm sorry I didn't even
know you could do itst preview check out this intro this is very cool
yeah the best part is can you identify all the people I can tell who some of
them are except for when they're running by like I know yeah that was very
obvious yeah I can identify everyone except for
when they're all running by all at once anyway then it gets messy that's a great
video LTT can you plastic dip a whole PC
inside and out LTT unboxing Canada's
biggest supercomputer um yeah LTT can you plasty
dip a whole PC is actually really funny yeah so next week is going to be
ridiculous because many of these projects were things that we've been
working on for weeks and or months and
they just all kind of came together at the same time in fact if I was like in
charge of programming here I might not necessarily like I might have tried to
find other sort of I don't want to say crappier stuff
but yeah less expensive content to
produce to to like space things out a
little bit um but if you guys want to join the Floatplane Club um basically
the way to do it you got the link you post it in the chat do you yeah okay
good LTT Bots got that now's kind of the time to do it and uh yeah it's going to
be it's going to be a good time it's going to be a good time over on Floatplane right now if you want to binge
watch all that stuff you're going to be you're going to like it um okay so Apple moving on to news
this was posted by WM gr on the Forum and the original article is from n
Gadget it looks like
Vivo Vivo oh that's what happened there what
beats Apple to an underd display
fingerprint scanner but they say that uh the technology
still has a way to go I mean that's how it sometimes is where people are like
yeah apple never invented anything whereas a lot of the time Apple doesn't
invent it they just kind of come along and use it when when it's actually
mature enough yeah to be clear it's a it's a uh Qualcomm technology yeah um so
this is an ultra Sonic fingerprint solution offering integration beneath
OLED displays up to 1 2 mm thick like that's pretty thick a fair amount for an
OLED um as well as aluminum even that's
freaking cool that's pretty like if the whole phone imagine this if you could
have like if you could have like uh just to unlock your phone is like easy like
it's just one and then to access your encrypted folder you have to put like
all five fingers on it or you have to like can you imagine that would be
pretty cool so if you had like you could have like the the fingerprint down here
and then like all four fingers on the back have to engage yes that' be pretty
neat I would love that it have to be really accurate for that first gen
stuff's not going to have that but that's the kind of stuff I'd love to see
in the future um apparently it works even when the device is immersed in
water which is a huge problem with existing fingerprint sensors and it
tolerates to be fair not not because you're like swimming with your phone all the time but like if it's raining or
something like that if it's a little bit wet it can be really annoying or like if you sweat as much as I do I mean like
sports not not just in like I'm not I'm not sweaty right now I mean I touched
your shirt so I could be as sweaty as you
know yeah he's good he's scientific tests very scientific
test oh that that was really awkward I
have problems with fingerprint scanners though um because I have as you know
annoyingly sweaty hands you're not nearly as bad as when I met you yeah
when I met you it was like fullon hyperhydrosis
like it has gotten a little bit better um I would go out of my way to like not
touch him like when I shook hands at his interview I was just like can I hire
this guy I also used to like like if I went on a let's get personal here for a
second if I went on a date with someone I would like avoid that you would avoid
hand holding so you would just straight grab her by the I'd do like ARM over
or I don't go no I don't go Trump Style with that but I'd try to go like ARM
over shoulders or like like something I would even do the like joking ARM in ARM
we're being funny old school thing wow that's cringe dude well I would do it as
a joke to be clear but I would do that for like a couple seconds to try to show
like I'm not being standoffish but also I'm going to do this as a joke and then
stop because I don't want to hold your hand wow because I was like yeah it's
pretty gnarly it's it's it's mostly fine now okay um yeah how's it going so
anyway vivo's xplay 6 demonstrated the technology the demo started off with a
fingerprint registration process that requested blah blah blah etc etc then
the user would be able to unlock the phone by touching the spot where they did the setup process or somewhere else
um so fingerprint recognition speed in this implementation is slower than the
near instantaneous unlock we expect from normal fingerprint scanners about a
second between the first touch and entering the home screen but they said
the same Tech could be applied across the entire screen oh wait no hold on F
oh yeah so they touched a different area just above the old fingerprint button um
so instead they might eventually cover just the bottom half of the screen
rather than the whole screen um to save cost and yeah same Tex shown on the back
of the phone's body allowing it to be unlocked even when placed in water
pretty cool yeah I really like like I
very much like the fingerprint unlock on the back of the pixel I'm a huge fan of
that um are we going into this yeah I
don't know should we or is it just boring I want to talk about ethereum
mining this is a really quick one but this was uh posted on futurism and the
original post on the Forum was Ginger
137 and the headline kind of says it all there's not not a whole lot more to say
at this point ethereum could be using more than an entire country's worth of
electricity now of course we don't mean like China or the us or whatever um oh
hi guys but um I think the the country that
we were talking about was oh a small country Cyprus um so a
bit more than what consumed by the island of Cypress so 4.2 terawatt
hours wow that's pretty
insane so one major reason for this is the power hungry graphics cards that are
involved but this might not be the case for long ethereum has plans to move away
from its existing energy intensive
algorithms so there you go I wonder what that means for people's Hardware if it's
just an algorithm thing like will that rebalance what is better at it it means
a lot of cheap 580s on the uh on
eBay hopefully because honestly I was talking to someone the other day buying
a computer right now kind of sucks holy crap it's a great time to buy a CPU yeah
but okay but on the counterargument and people are going to hate me for this but
it's kind of rough to get into PC gaming
right now and I actually see a lot of people going like okay well the graphics
card that I want is going to cost more than the freaking console yep and like
it's hard to justify yep it's genuinely
a little bit hard to justify it's cuz the graphics cards are so expensive and
if I'm AMD I certainly want to sell graphics cards for as much as I can of
course why not or NVIDIA for that matter although NVIDIA has been a little less
popular on the whole ethereum mining side of things and like seen some stuff
where people are trying to snipe out stores because certain stores aren't
increasing their prices because they're just trying to go for MSRP and RAM too
there's a worldwide Dam shortage that's expected to last well into next year
it's great for companies like Corsair cuz it's hilarious like RAM makers like
Corsair and Kingston where they they buy modules and then sell them uh it's great
for them because as much as it's frustrating for them to not be able to
get as much allocation as they'd like to sell they're margin on a product like
that is kind of set cuz there's a lot of competitors out there and everybody's
kind of in that 7 to 12% range pretty much give or take but even though
they're selling less what they do sell
hits their um hits their revenue numbers a lot harder so they're doing more
revenue and making 10% let's say on a $
transaction versus making 10% on a $100
transaction having to do all the same fixed cost things so thep the processing
fee Transportation marketing uh
packaging yeah hey that's great for them
um speaking of the memory business rip
Lexar memory cards this was posted by shutter Boy on The Forum the original
article here is from petapixel but crucial I don't know if
you guys know this but uh Micron parent
company of crucial and Lexar um Micron just kind of went yeah
you know what um compared to the
lucrative business of selling flash to companies like Amazon and
Google um selling like SD cards is a
Fool's errand due to those low margins and low volumes all that packaging and
all that marketing involved in what this tiny transaction this is stupid so
they're just like forget it and they are shutting down their removable storage
retail business I hope they don't shut down crucial because their Facebook page
is hilarious other products that are being killed off include USB flash
drives memory card readers and storage drives which honestly I'm kind of not
stoked on because the only prograde card
readers that we could find are those Lexar ones that we're using our sco up a
few I'm not even kidding we we might even do that although I did run into
someone at PEX that's making something that looks really Pro and that has SSD
and red Meg versions as well they're like rack mount and you can and their
modular so I'll look into those they run off Thunderbolt too and our ingest
stations are Thunderbolt so we'll see yeah but if that doesn't pan out or if
that product sucks Lexar is all I kind of got um but
the decision was made as part of the company's ongoing efforts to focus on
its increasing opportunities in higher value markets and
channels so basically like Lexar
products suck it uh they are exploring opportunities
to sell all or part of the Lexar business but what that means is
basically that Lexar won't be Lexar yeah in much the same way that the sharp is
trying to get their brand back in North America because they're actually suing
over high sense I believe it's high sense I'm going to double check before I
like disar a brand um sharp high sense
lawsuit I think yeah yeah sharp saying
that high sense's shoddily manufactured
TVs are hurting their brand image what even though they were the ones who sold
the business unit to high sense they sold it can they do anything about that
I don't know but it explains you know how we go to CES and we're like what the
heck is high sense yeah why are they even here yeah now I finally get it
yes um what else what else we got for this week there's not a ton there 's
that weird Canada thing which might affect other people so I don't know we
might want to talk about that there's the tech PowerUp thing I'm wondering on
your opinion on that actually okay I'm sorry I really haven't looked into this
oh and there's um it's there's not a ton to look into it you can look into it
really quick so um should I start on it
sure having not read it uh was posted on the Forum by eyes can't see over 24 FPS
and that was the only way we were going to get me to say those words Al together
in that order very very funny you know that's going to get you gigantic troll
like really tightly clipped I know um and the original article here is from
delited tech.com which I've actually never heard of what's delited tech.com I
don't know wow this looks like a very
small site and I'm I'm not hating or
anything um but basically the
controversy is over a tech
PowerUp article that appeared to be an article anyway that was a comparison
between AMD's radon rx560 and NVIDIA's GTX 1050 but that was actually an AMD ad
the article reads like a review with no disclaimers within the article itself
that it comes from AMD or is sponsored by AMD the only ad markers on the page
were advertorial by AMD off to the side on the top right and the author being
named advertorial the article was posted
directly in the review section of the site our Forum members apparently
disagree as to whether or not AMD
crossed the line I don't know why it wasn't linked but here's the actual
thing if you want go okay so let's pull let's pull up the article here this does
look like an article so they're sponsored right there yeah advertorial
by AMD okay this might be uh looks like it's been updated a little bit this
might be
updated huh when I first saw this I I didn't check
for each individual location but when I first saw this I was not oh it says
sponsored right there content by MD okay okay it looks like a few things have
been added
huh interesting so did they run their own
marks current in its current state what do you what do you think about the
transparency okay so and it's current
State the deled tech site doesn't seem to have
huh oh I think there's a picture on there
actually so yeah advertorial by AMD
above the here let's go uh let's go over
to deleted tech for a second here and show what it used to look like you just move to my oh no mine's screwed up yeah
yours is screwed up right now sorry so you're going to want to this one yeah
yeah okay so here's what it used to look
like the uh the writer was advertorial
it didn't say sponsored under the 560 logo say sponsored under the logo here
and it said introduction as though it was an introduction to something yeah
but it did say avoral by MD over on the right so it wasn't like impossible to
figure out what it was but I think the word
advertorial is um a little misleading
because in my mind an advertorial okay
so it's like edutainment right yeah it's inherently
educational entertaining SS advert and tutorial and it's not a tutorial this
isn't a tutorial at all here let's read it we'll read it together it's not like
how to use AMD graphics cards advertorial by AMD last year AMD
introduced the first Polaris generation of gpus with it AMD delivered many new
features along with great performance in the latest games and greatly improved
efficiency like that is not a
tutorial um be it orts or AA titles best
value for the money at around €100 consistently smooth animation in popular
games at 1080 avoids performance pit Falls caused by running out of video
memory due to 4 gig models being available okay none of that's a tutorial
for only around €100 the radon rx560 outperforms the competition at this
price point while showing the significant difference of upgrading from a previous generation is this their own
benchmarks so that's honestly where
that's that's the one that I don't like um radon chill hold on hold on radon
chill saves power during games it does this in these kinds of titles there is
no tutorial oh editorial not tutorial
editorial is it
interesting good call twitch chat okay I
did not know that I always thought that an advertorial was an ad that was like
how to use it I thought it was is what I
think an advertorial should be by the
way because I have no problem with that in fact that's something that I've been
doing for years is like here's how to
water cool your computer brought to you by some parts that you can use to do
that but but all of these things I'm saying still apply to other stuff an
advertorial the like proper definition is a newspaper or Magazine advertisement
don't worry too much about that giving information about a product in the style
of an editorial or objective journalistic article
okay so that's actually fairly transparent okay all right fine I don't
like yeah so there's a couple things here
number one is I think they're going to need to change says testing done by AMD
in the last paragraph yeah I think it should say that on the chart I think the
testing shouldn't be done by AMD for one thing um so even when we do so we've
actually done a um here the closest
thing that we've done was uh the te okay
guys the testing done by AMD should be on the chart here this is the closest
thing we've done actually with AMD oh unskippable ads we have unskippable ads
they enable after a while so they're on our um our back catalog oh do we even do
that no it's something that our MCN does automatically oh yeah okay can you build
a 4K gaming PC for under $1,000 oh for some reason we're not
looking at the beginning of it so we say something something something something
something AMD challenged us to do this
blah blah blah hold on here we go is this the sponsored by AMD call out no I
don't think so um but this was uh this
was actually before some of those guidelines came into place and we uh let
me see where else anyway I say it either two or three times in the video
verbally um when we get to the benchmarks because AMD's argument to us
to for doing this piece was that you can
play popular Esports titles at 60 FPS on
their affordable for at 4k on their
affordable all AMD machine we ran these
benchmarks ourselves and we told them we're not
doing this video unless we can validate this ourselves yeah and that would have
meant not taking the budget that happened
letting AMD run their own
benchmarks yes I think strictly speaking
that does make it exactly as much of an
advertorial then as just an opinion but
an editorial again and maybe you can hear want to be my definition man for a
second here editorial my understanding
means opinion and facts graphs and
charts are not not opinions a newspaper
article written by or on behalf of an editor that gives an opinion on a
topical issue so really that's where the line
gets crossed for me because the disclosure is not quite good enough uh
it should be in the title uh sponsored should be in the actual title
of the article uh according to like FTC guidelines like that actually needs to
get done um all of this stuff is quite a bit
better Now adoral by AMD but in my
opinion these graphs should have either
been run by tech power up or they shouldn't be here and it should just be
an opinion at the very least in my opinion it needs to be very clear on the
graphs that these are graphs from the company and then personally that would
just make me not care and I'd move on people are saying the graphs serve as
evidence for the opinion of the author but that's exactly it then it isn't an
editorial then it's not an opinion you can't say in my opinion this graphics
card runs faster when you actually have fact I mean it's the whole blurry line
between facts and opinion these days but
once it's been quantitatively measured in a way that is reproducible
and defensible and adheres to the
scientific method once it's Quantified
it isn't an opinion anymore and a graph
inherently suggests that it has been
Quantified people are saying but AMD is the author that's fine but it still
isn't an editorial and therefore isn't an
advertorial so yeah
um huh okay I mean as long as it's
disclosed it's sort of up to them and their relationship with their viewers uh
for our part we do do sponsored content we've done sponsored content for years
we say when it sponsored
content I would love to say that we've never used anyone's numbers we've shown
slides with a manufacturer's numbers generally speaking that would be before
we get an opportunity to show our own numbers like at a launch event or when
it's being first unveiled at CES for example yeah um but then it's usually
clearly stated that that's their numbers but it's clearly stated that it is someone else's numbers not quite but
probably almost every time that I've done that I've been like but we'll have
to see when we can get it back into the office for testing of our own I mean
with over 3,000 videos uploaded I don't want to say we've never shown anybody
else's numbers but generally speaking
that's where we draw our line clear disclosure and running our own
validation against the claims of the manufacturer yeah in this case I can't
speak to their due diligence uh behind the scenes except to say that this graph
doesn't look like it was produced by them it looks like it was produced by AMD for all I know they ran the
numbers but I I don't don't have a way
of that performance by AMD oh no that's right it does down at the very bottom
yeah uh testing done by AMD performance Labs March 1st 2017 using a core
i76700k oh boy
um yeah so I'm not going to say look
sponsored content shouldn't exist I'm just going to say it needs to be clearly
disclosed and for me
personally um
I'm very careful about any claims that are
made in our publication that I couldn't stand behind
whether I was the one who ran the numbers or whether it was my idea or whether it was someone else's idea um
even in sponsored content and it's up to tech power up to manage their
relationship with their audience and their trust with their audience um in
terms of how they want to proceed with this
there yeah interesting one more topic um
I'm kind of done okay yeah that's boring that's boring oh
okay this is kind of cool pet yeah yeah coaxial gamer posted this on the for
original article from overclock 3d. net tashiba produces the world's first 4 bit
per cell so that's qlc nand flash memory
so the endurance on this stuff will suck
um like we're talking a handful of right Cycles
compared to what SLC would have been capable of if it still existed but um
great for write once read many many
times kinds of applications because it
will be really cheap so we're talking capacities of up to 96 gigabyt of
storage per die allowing Toshiba to
create a 1.5 terab SSD package with a 16
die stacked architecture so they're going to demo it at the 2017 flash
Summit in August uh there's x299 boards
bad vrm cooling oh yeah that's a big sort of thing I think we did tease that
so uh yeah uh we should probably talk
about it I've seen this guy's videos before I think you pronounced the
channel derau yep der I met him yeah yes
I've good videos actually but um der posted a video uh showing that the vrms
on an x299 board were reaching 100 degre
and the single 8 Pin connectors for the power supply can hit 60° when over
talking the 10 core models so here's derau good guy Pro overclocker um
actually makes the derau delting tool which he gave us one of nice which
pretty pretty sick yeah um and he has some serious concerns about x299 and how
much time the motherboard manufacturers had to work on their designs to make
sure that they were cooled correctly and not just that but um if you're
interested in that kind of stuff go watch his video he does good stuff but given that the motherboard manufacturers
also got blindsided by any CPUs with a
core count over 12 it's not just a matter of being rushed but also a matter
of not having enough information potentially to design a board that is
actually capable of handling this to be fair he was testing with one of 10 yes
the 10 cor models but yeah so it so it can't get any better it can only get
worse is sort of the point yeah okay
there's there's one more topic we can gloss over it a little bit but want to
some people information if no
um Peta ransomware okay um I do really
want to give a call out for the guy on the Forum that posted this thread WM
groom AK has done a very very good job
of keeping this up to date with really good article linking really good quoting
really good updates um condensing big
updates on other sites down into easy digestible things so if you're
interested in the world of viruses and
hacking and ransomware and wipers and
everything else definitely go check out this thread I just post it in the chat
awesome um and there's a lot of crazy
information in there there's there's a bit of a developing story yeah so you
can maybe if we cover this now and someone watches the show in three days
it's not going to be up to dat all our notes are wrong and not because James is
a bad person but because it has literally all changed it's been changing
since he made his notes so so so go check out that thread it's being updated
like it it was last updated like
slightly over an hour ago y like after the show was even supposed to start
technically before the show started but yeah um it it's it's parading as
ransomware it's actually a wiper uh apparently the email account has been
closed by the email hosting service that was hosting it so even if you try to pay
to get your thing back they can't receive the email so not going to be
able to give you a key to unlock your device like it's it's it's a mess right
now and if you're really interested in that stuff I would check out that thread it's it's very well up to date it even
includes like the Bitcoin wallet address that people are sending money to so you
can see like how much money they've made so far and everything like it's yeah
it's good all right so thanks for watching guys and uh we will see you
again next week same bat Time same bat Channel bye
you're like out out right yeah
okay
wles oh okay it doesn't matter it doesn't matter I'm not trying to hide it
it's just oh okay