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Microsoft just sent us their brand new Xbox time to make a whole video on all

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the big changes well it's an Xbox series X all

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right with no disc drive and some cost

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optimizations and it's

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white okay very funny but there is

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legitimately more to this story the new model will also save you $50 that is if

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you're willing to commit your soul to the digital only future and give up

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playing dis based games probably forever should you take the deal I mean on the

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one hand $50 that's a lot of money to save but on the other hand the

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conventional wisdom says that physical games are much cheaper than digital ones

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especially in the long run does that make diskless consoles like this a bad

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deal how many games would you need to buy before you wipe out that $50 savings

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that is the question we set out to answer and it turns out

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it's kind of complicated or well really complicated the good news is we did the

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complicated part for you and when you're done watching this 11 and a half minute

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video you will be equipped with some very practical tips that will save you

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money and you'll also be equipped with this message from our sponsor ovhcloud

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coming up on November 28th our very own Luke lafrenier is going to be at ovh

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and click the link in the video description to learn

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more we began our price comparison journey by adding the top rated and top

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selling PlayStation 5 titles to a spreadsheet then culling any of the

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games that didn't have a physical release that left us with a healthy mix

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of 67 games we've stuck with the PS 5

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this time around because the crossplatform licensing on Xbox is a bit

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more complicated so leave a like if you want to see a deeper dive that includes

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the Xbox and the PC also about twice as

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many people have ps5s than current gen Xboxes so PS5 step two was to populate

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our spreadsheet with both digital and physical pricing now some individual

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prices may have changed since October 15th but the overall story shouldn't

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giving us the answer to our first question right away how many non-used

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games would you need need to buy right now to break even on the $50 that you

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spent on a dis Drive version 29.8 which

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I got to say is a lot more than I expected I mean sure if you bought our

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entire sample Library here it's clear you'd come out way ahead with physical

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games but let's be real that's way more

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than most people are going to be buying over the entire lifespan of a console so

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digital wins brother we are only at the first

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nest of this rabbit Warren to go deeper we need to add these columns tracking

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historical sale pricing where digital

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extends its lead not only is it cheaper

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for a gamer with an average size library but it's even cheaper overall and not by

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a narrow margin we're talking a savings of

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$419 per game for the patient gamer that's

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$281 for our complete Library but before

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you physical media enthusiasts finish typing that comment we're not done yet

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so backspace backspace couple more times there you go let's break this down Tech

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tip by Tech tip although we've been focused on digital versus physical so

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far the most important metric is really current price versus sale price which

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was a difference of $ 13 to $20 per game

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or $900 to $1,300 for the entire Library

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so that right there is Tech tip number one be patient seriously if you take one

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thing from this video that's it using some of the same tools that we used like

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PS deals or camel camel camel you can not only view historical sale prices but

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in many cases you can even predict future sales both the timing and even

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the pricing I mean look at this it's like clockwork these days especially for

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digital you can also follow social accounts that are dedicated to keeping

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you informed on Regional sales we're going to have links to some of those tools as well as the consoles we're

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talking about down below now of course I understand you can't always be a patient

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gamer you want to jump into that new release while all your friends are playing it but especially for single

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player games guys you can save as much as $5 to $10 simply by waiting a week or

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two and picking up a secondhand copy ah yes the ace up the sleeve for team

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physical used games these are going to

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change the math in a big way but first let's talk about where to get them

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that's tip number too it turns out that if you want something right now your

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local GameStop might not be as bad as we expected on average pricing on used

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games at GameStop and Amazon is remarkably close and that's before you

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include promotional offers we did find that used prices on Amazon could be

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significantly lower sometimes but the availability was pretty inconsistent of

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course if you're patient and willing to emerge from your gamer Den once in a

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while buying on Facebook Marketplace is King for finding the best deals on

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YouTube games our spreadsheet makes that clear already and we haven't even tried

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to lowball anyone yet so so much for everything else I said physical for the

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win video over or is it the whole

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convenience argument against Marketplace that's a real argument picking up all

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your games in one shot really is a lot easier than meeting up with 67 strangers

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on the internet but if we're going to talk about convenience in our equation

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then it kind of reopens the door for digital doesn't it Click Click Boom you

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got a new game to play your time has a value and I'm not just talking about

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driving to and from the store cuz the discs we're buying these days are

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pressed weeks in advance of launch meaning that even on day one there are

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almost always crucial patches that turn your disc into little more than a shiny

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license key that takes up space on your shelf we downloaded three whole games in

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the time that it took to install and update one game via disk though of

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course your internet speed is obviously a big variable there making matters

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worse though let's say you bought six games one at a time as you build up your

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game library and you bought them from the store at a median us hourly wage you

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just added at least $ 12 to $15 in time

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and transportation to your cost now the full picture is obviously going to vary

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from person to person you can clearly order a physical game online as well but

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what we can say is that with waiting around factored in digital absolutely

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obliterates physical but we're not done yet what

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about game preservation buying digitally is just leasing a

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license that was literally settled in court not that long ago and when those

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servers go down you lose your game point

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for physical then well yeah but

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Counterpoint when that happens you're also going to be losing access to

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crucial updates for those physical games so if you're really concerned with

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preserving your gaming experience for all time this key point that used to go

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to physical media now belongs to

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piracy but since the current gen systems haven't been jailbroken yet we're going

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to cut that conversation off here changing gears though there is one huge

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W that physical still retains transferable licenses you can lend your

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friend a game without account sharing Shenanigans and you can even sell your

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games outright to partially cover the cost of your next no life Addiction in

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fact if you're trying to minmax your gaming and if time means nothing to you

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because hey it's your hobby anyway this is the clear winning strategy you find a

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deal on a used game you finish it in a week or two then you sell it directly to

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the next Consumer not back to GameStop

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if you can time it right you can usually get your money back or even make a few

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bucks here and there now if that kind of flow sounds exhausting to you don't

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worry you're perfectly normal but if it's your jam power to you and I get it

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as for me I think the most interesting finding from our investigation is

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probably how subscriptions Factor into the equation let's match up our cheapest

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overall category of historic low used prices against the historic low digital

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prices but this time let's include 2 years of PlayStation Plus extra that

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adds $270 for the subscription but we get 24 out of our 67 games for free

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giving us a net Savings of $1 136 that makes the price difference

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between the lowest allused and All Digital just

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$37 for the entire Library so once you

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factor in the $50 discount for a digital console all of a sudden you're ahead $13

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by going disc free and you've got two years of online play extra features and

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access to hundreds of additional games of course you're going to have to keep

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paying for PSN forever and even if you do some of those games might get taken

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away at some point are we going to have a conclusion

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here gauging value for these things as you can see can be reallying complicated and

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that ignores the fact that depending how you do the math and which games you look

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at the numbers can bear out very differently if we used median values for

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our initial analysis for example it might have only taken us half a dozen

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games to make up the cost of our disc drive rather than the original

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29.8 which is why we focused on the overall trends that make it easier to

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make generalized tips for you so here's one more in the real world the best

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deals are on a per game basis and if you want the cheapest version of our

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complete Library it's probably no definitely going to involve a mix of

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used and digital games that right there

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I think is the conclusion because that is the most irrefutable argument against

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the removal of the optical drive because what it costs you is not only measured

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in dollars it's measured in flexibility with this console I don't get to choose

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anymore what kind of game I'm going to buy that is why David who wrote this

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video is going to be doing a second exclusive over on LMG g/ Floatplane

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going through the spreadsheet in a bit more detail and admitting he was wrong

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about the PS5 Pro's lack of a disc drive he said he didn't think it was that big

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of a deal he wrote this video and then immediately went out and bought a disc

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