Hi ShortCircuit, I'm Luke, and today we're checking out the Apple Vision Pro
2, Apple Vision Pro M5, Apple Vision Pro
late 2025 edition, whatever you want to call it. Just like last time, this thing
is pretty heavy and really, really
expensive. Unlike last time, it's coming with the M5 chip, just roaring fast
processor in a spatial computing
headset. Linus wanted to challenge me to check this out considering I spent a
bunch of money on a big screen beyond too, and he's trying to make me regret
it, but I won't. Wow, it really is uh
very substantially heavy. That's
even before you put it on your head. That's very interesting. I've been told
there's tungsten weights in the back, so you could have a tungsten cube and a
tungsten band. That's exciting. I'm uh
an amateur at Apple unboxing experiences, so I've been told
there is more under the box under the headset. That makes complete sense, so
let's see what's in here. First thing I see here is their battery. It has a
relatively long cable and kind of locks into the side. This will apparently give
you 2 and 1/2 hours of general use and
up to 3 hours of video playback, which to me it's a little bit surprising that
the the video playback is longer than the general use. So, I'm wondering what
their general use is. Um you've got what looks like a C-to-C cable. The power
adapter that it comes with is their new 40-W dynamic power adapter with 60-W
max. This launched with their iPhone 17
lineup that recently came out, and we have a Labs article that if it's not up
yet when you're watching this, it will be up very soon diving into what the
benefits or lack thereof of this thing are, but it's interesting that this came
by default in the box. Although, if you're paying 37 cabillion dollars for
your headset, then maybe it could make sense. Ah, and another band? I don't
mind there being an additional one, that's cool. I think that's it for
what's in the box other than the headset. Headset has a cover on it
just like last time and some fingerprints. Sorry.
What is this? This This says W on it and this says W+. Are
we sure they're the same? The W+ one is definitely thicker. On regards to
immediate impressions, well, it's exactly the same as last time. The
headband strap is obviously different, but everything else feels the same. It's
been a while since I used one of these, but even like the little flappy thing
here, I think was there. Everything else seems exactly the same. I've seen them
lined up against each other before and they looked, again, exactly the same.
Really, what we have going on for the vast majority of users is going to be
the headband and the chip that are different, and the chip results in some
performance improvements. In more specific terms, your refresh rate is
going from 100 Hz to 120 Hz, which is, admittedly, pretty nice, and they say
there's 10% more pixels rendered on the same screen, which we're pretty sure has
something to do with foveated rendering, but we're not sure if that means higher quality in the same area or wider area
when they're doing foveated rendering. I'm sure it's just better. I still think
that while the the design is better with the first one, whatever you want to call
the first Apple Vision Pro, people noted that it rested really, really hard on
your nose bridge. So, relatively quickly, Apple had out a behind-the-head
and over-the-head band that you could buy, but it was very simple, and a lot
of people called it uh like a diaper strap. This one, in my opinion, really
doesn't look like that much better. I I
still think it's kind of goofy. Like if I slap this on, whoa, that's way too
tight. I mean, that's nice. That feels good. Do I look goofy? Do I look like I
have a jockstrap attached to my head right now?
Yeah, I don't have a lot to say because if you've seen any video on the first
one, if you're watching this, you're probably aware of the first one. The
first one had a lot more attention, a lot more fanfare, and it looks exactly
the same. And if I do this and I put
them beside each other, there's like really no way that you could tell
externally, as far as my understanding goes. And as far as my understanding
goes, I think you can buy these for 100 bucks. Yeah, so you can buy one of these
for $100 and strap this tungsten
jockstrap to your older Gen 1 Apple
Vision Pro, or if you're out there and you want one of these, but they're
really just too darn expensive, which is
super valid, maybe you might be able to find some bro selling his
Apple Vision Pro original version, Gen 1
alpha, and just buy one of the better straps to
attach onto it because I have heard that on the second-hand market, the Gen
1s are going for like two grand sometimes, and then I'm not sure, but
I'm assuming you can buy new versions of these faceplate mountings as well. So,
you could freshen up the parts that are actually going to come in contact with
you and then still have a very impressive spatial computing device that
you can use at home. Maybe it doesn't have the fantastic new M5 chip in it,
and maybe your experience will be a little bit worse for wear because of that, but you're probably still saving
like a lot of money. So, that is almost
like the coolest part about this without having used it yet, um
but I think now it's time to dive into the actual user experience. But not
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today. The passthrough camera
is just as impressive as it was last time, which is impressive, but
just as impressive as it was last time. When putting on Vision Pro, position the
lower strap on the back of your head. Dude, it's fascinating that they tell
you how to put it on after it's on your head. So, this I I can already tell that
where I'm looking, I can use my head to look or I can use my eyes to look, is
like selecting the button. But it hasn't indicated to me how to
select the button. I'm assuming I just do that. Yep, which is the fact that I
was able to assume that is pretty sick. I did use this one time on Lan Show a
long time ago, like when it launched, basically, but other than that, I
haven't, so that is clearly quite intuitive. Hold your hands up and look
at them. Spread your fingers apart.
See, that's such a sweet experience.
I'm moving a window right now. Up, down, left, right, and further away
from me and closer to me all just with
this, and it feels not so distinct from magic, which is
one of the just really killer experiences of this headset. I can read
it, but it doesn't seem very like I'd really rather not. Is this way
better than alternatives? Mhm. The Quest 3, it is it is rough. I could totally
see that. Like I can actually make these words out on like a not enlarged Google
Doc script. It's like a little painful, but I can do it. I wouldn't want to read
this entire document this way. I would rather take the headset off or open it
in here. Um but if I like got a text message,
I could see what the text message was without taking the headset off, the
spatial computing device off,
uh and that's cool. I will say, just immediately after after having had it on
for a little while now, I kind of forgot about the setup and have just been able
to focus on the more digital experience instead of the hardware experience, and
I think that speaks decent volumes to the headband being significantly better
because I remember last time it resting on my nose and it resting on,
realistically, everyone else's nose was a frustrating part of the experience,
and right now I haven't even thought about that at all this whole time. It,
again, doesn't it doesn't feel light, but I do actually think the tungsten
weighting in the band in the back was worth it to the point where the added
weight, I don't think is going to ultimately be that much of an issue, and
I'm very happy with the distribution of weight change that happened. You're
sitting over there with just the behind-the-head band. How's your
experience currently? It does feel like you have to constantly adjust it up a
little bit. Like it slides down. Yeah, I'm having none of that at all. That
feels like a solved problem with this band, I will say. As a deep YouTube
enjoyer, the fact that there's no like official YouTube app on here is rough. I
don't know if they're hoping like Apple TV just does way better cuz Apple TV is
clearly like the the first thing in the top corner, and if you've spent this
much money on an Apple device, you decently likely have Apple TV, but it is
not the same. I need my I need my YouTubes.
The first app I see in the App Store having two reviews is interesting, for
sure. You could also try turning on your environment.
Turn on my environment? Oh,
yeah, screw you guys. I'm out of here.
Cool. Let's play LEGO. Yeah, Linus, pay me to play LEGO on
shift. Idiot. This is kind of neat.
If I spent this much money on a headset, I think I could afford actual LEGO and
then would probably want to play with actual LEGO. It still feels like we're in um VR
headset tech demo land, but it's pretty sweet. Looks like a thrilling
experience. I'm stoked. I'm having so much fun. There's quite a bit of light
leakage. Like around my nose, I can see a fair
amount of light leakage, and I don't think there's any solving that for me.
Like if I make it really low or anything, nothing happens.
And I'm going to go into Safari. I'm trying to type in a domain
and it's making my brain want to bleed a little bit. Does it have
uh speech entry? Enabled to Ah, it wasn't enabled. Okay.
Floatplane.com
Is it working? It's working. So, I'm watching Floatplane on my side
on my little side screen over here. I'm going to play that.
So, you can only play one video at a time, is that right? Oh, whoop.
Hello? Okay, this whole DRM thing where you
can't see stuff sucks.
Holy crap, you can't even like move the window
or close it. Yeah, it just like ruins your experience. That is uh
horrible. At least indicate to me that like something's happening.
I don't think I can even close it. You must stop recording. Yeah, which
sucks cuz I just started recording. Okay, the other thing that I want to try
is Floatplane is working great. The only thing that I want to try is going to
YouTube. So, you can watch YouTube. It just has to be through the browser.
Okay, well, I mean, the fact that YouTube works totally fine in the
browser and the fact that you can have multiple tabs of Safari open makes me
not overly concerned about there being no
YouTube app. It seem It seems to work perfectly fine. Like the the YouTube app
was immediately responsive. Um it has my
suggestions here, you know, I can I can click on things. I can even doom scroll
and watch shorts, I'm assuming. Are any of these going to work? Okay, so there's
little things like I can't seem to scroll left and right with the shorts, but that's probably a good thing.
Hopefully, I'll watch less of them. Honestly, this way it feels like I'm not going to get annoyed by annoying YouTube
notifications. So, I'll probably prefer that anyways. This device to me feels
more like a desktop experience than a mobile phone. So, I don't I mean, I
would I would use YouTube on a web browser on my desktop anyways, so I
don't care. That's totally fine. The immersive photo is really cool.
This does feel like a superior way to view this photo. Especially like looking
and seeing the tracks and feeling like the tracks are actually closer to me of
like a car that drove by is really cool. This is a sweet experience. Is it a
sweet experience worth What is it? $3,500?
Yeah. And no. I feel limited. I feel mostly limited by the
fact that there doesn't seem like there's actually a ton going on. The App
Store the the things that it does have having like very, very few reviews feels
indicative of it probably not having a great Ah, okay.
This being for work makes a ton of sense. It's like, "What are the What are
the common apps?" And it's like Marvel What If and immersive story, which feels
like a made for this type thing. TikTok, Disney
Plus, Red Bull TV, sure sounds good. Space Vision. And then the first thing
that doesn't feel like super first party is Microsoft Excel.
Uh yeah. Now, we're looking at the Mac
virtual display where I have Bell's laptop in front of me and I can kind of
project his laptop screen up into my
spatial computing realm. I can change its kind of
format, so I can go standard wide or ultra wide. I can resize it by grabbing
the corner and dragging this way. I can I can grab the bar at the bottom just
like everything else, bring it closer, push it further away, left, right, up, down, all that fun stuff. But it's
effectively the laptop the the screen of the laptop that's in front of me. Now,
the laptop screen is black. So, I'm not able to do like a dual monitor thing
right now. I know that's something people have complained about and I kind
of agreed with them until now, I guess.
I'm sure if I had a stand to put my laptop up so that the screen was up
here, it would be kind of nice, I guess, maybe. But
um it feels like all I need, considering I have my own Safari, I have my own
whatever else I want, having my computer here, which also has all its own
Windows. I don't really feel like I need a second screen.
Um I don't think it would be a bad thing if it supported it, but I'm not I don't
feel like I'm missing it having it down here. The input latency feels pretty
good. It's not like I'm playing games, I'm just moving the mouse on the desktop, but it's
about what I would would expect or better than from this experience. Where
are the speakers? Are they in the like arms on the side here? Yeah, that little
bulb thing. Yeah, yeah.
Eh. I I I I felt better about it when the
song first started, but once it kind of got into it and we had
bass introduced, it felt worse. I mean, they're not
headphones. You could wear these with AirPods, I'm
sure. You could pair AirPods to it. Yeah, so you could get a better sounding
experience. For for not needing to put something in your ears or even on your
ears covering it, it's pretty good. I didn't exactly expect crazy bass. This
is probably better bass than I honestly expected. It's just not like an
incredible listening experience or anything. If I was spending a ton of time on planes when I kind of really
needed to get work done, I could really see getting a
productivity boost out of that out of this and I could see that being worth it
for some people. Like I I I think I understand the device. If you If you're
in a super enthusiast Apple adopter and you just want to try everything that
they do and you're into bleeding edge
new type of tech and you have a bucket
of cash that you don't mind throwing in the ocean,
um it's cool. It's just for so many people
it makes no sense, which is I think where I get stuck at
least is this is a product for a very, very small amount of people.
It's not a product for no one. It's just a product for probably not
you. I I don't regret my Bigscreen Beyond 2
at all. Primarily because they're for completely different use cases, but it's
cool if you have the money and have the use case, which is unlikely. But what is
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