1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,360 Hi ShortCircuit, I'm Luke, and today we're checking out the Apple Vision Pro 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,520 2, Apple Vision Pro M5, Apple Vision Pro 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:15,240 late 2025 edition, whatever you want to call it. Just like last time, this thing 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,840 is pretty heavy and really, really 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:24,000 expensive. Unlike last time, it's coming with the M5 chip, just roaring fast 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,600 processor in a spatial computing 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:30,320 headset. Linus wanted to challenge me to check this out considering I spent a 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:35,320 bunch of money on a big screen beyond too, and he's trying to make me regret 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,320 it, but I won't. Wow, it really is uh 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,040 very substantially heavy. That's 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,840 even before you put it on your head. That's very interesting. I've been told 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:48,760 there's tungsten weights in the back, so you could have a tungsten cube and a 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:51,200 tungsten band. That's exciting. I'm uh 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:55,400 an amateur at Apple unboxing experiences, so I've been told 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,800 there is more under the box under the headset. That makes complete sense, so 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,560 let's see what's in here. First thing I see here is their battery. It has a 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:08,480 relatively long cable and kind of locks into the side. This will apparently give 18 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,840 you 2 and 1/2 hours of general use and 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:14,840 up to 3 hours of video playback, which to me it's a little bit surprising that 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:19,000 the the video playback is longer than the general use. So, I'm wondering what 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:24,840 their general use is. Um you've got what looks like a C-to-C cable. The power 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:31,160 adapter that it comes with is their new 40-W dynamic power adapter with 60-W 23 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,360 max. This launched with their iPhone 17 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,520 lineup that recently came out, and we have a Labs article that if it's not up 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,160 yet when you're watching this, it will be up very soon diving into what the 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:45,240 benefits or lack thereof of this thing are, but it's interesting that this came 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:50,000 by default in the box. Although, if you're paying 37 cabillion dollars for 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:54,520 your headset, then maybe it could make sense. Ah, and another band? I don't 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,600 mind there being an additional one, that's cool. I think that's it for 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:02,280 what's in the box other than the headset. Headset has a cover on it 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,960 just like last time and some fingerprints. Sorry. 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:10,840 What is this? This This says W on it and this says W+. Are 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:15,160 we sure they're the same? The W+ one is definitely thicker. On regards to 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:19,040 immediate impressions, well, it's exactly the same as last time. The 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,600 headband strap is obviously different, but everything else feels the same. It's 36 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,600 been a while since I used one of these, but even like the little flappy thing 37 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:30,280 here, I think was there. Everything else seems exactly the same. I've seen them 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:34,680 lined up against each other before and they looked, again, exactly the same. 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:39,800 Really, what we have going on for the vast majority of users is going to be 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,760 the headband and the chip that are different, and the chip results in some 41 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,560 performance improvements. In more specific terms, your refresh rate is 42 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:52,640 going from 100 Hz to 120 Hz, which is, admittedly, pretty nice, and they say 43 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,760 there's 10% more pixels rendered on the same screen, which we're pretty sure has 44 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:02,600 something to do with foveated rendering, but we're not sure if that means higher quality in the same area or wider area 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:08,920 when they're doing foveated rendering. I'm sure it's just better. I still think 46 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:12,520 that while the the design is better with the first one, whatever you want to call 47 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:16,840 the first Apple Vision Pro, people noted that it rested really, really hard on 48 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:21,680 your nose bridge. So, relatively quickly, Apple had out a behind-the-head 49 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:26,120 and over-the-head band that you could buy, but it was very simple, and a lot 50 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:31,920 of people called it uh like a diaper strap. This one, in my opinion, really 51 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,040 doesn't look like that much better. I I 52 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:37,920 still think it's kind of goofy. Like if I slap this on, whoa, that's way too 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:43,080 tight. I mean, that's nice. That feels good. Do I look goofy? Do I look like I 54 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:47,520 have a jockstrap attached to my head right now? 55 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Yeah, I don't have a lot to say because if you've seen any video on the first 56 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,680 one, if you're watching this, you're probably aware of the first one. The 57 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:59,960 first one had a lot more attention, a lot more fanfare, and it looks exactly 58 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,120 the same. And if I do this and I put 59 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:05,560 them beside each other, there's like really no way that you could tell 60 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:09,360 externally, as far as my understanding goes. And as far as my understanding 61 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:14,640 goes, I think you can buy these for 100 bucks. Yeah, so you can buy one of these 62 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:18,640 for $100 and strap this tungsten 63 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:21,079 jockstrap to your older Gen 1 Apple 64 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Vision Pro, or if you're out there and you want one of these, but they're 65 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:28,560 really just too darn expensive, which is 66 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:36,920 super valid, maybe you might be able to find some bro selling his 67 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Apple Vision Pro original version, Gen 1 68 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:43,880 alpha, and just buy one of the better straps to 69 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:48,920 attach onto it because I have heard that on the second-hand market, the Gen 70 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:53,160 1s are going for like two grand sometimes, and then I'm not sure, but 71 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:57,480 I'm assuming you can buy new versions of these faceplate mountings as well. So, 72 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,760 you could freshen up the parts that are actually going to come in contact with 73 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,680 you and then still have a very impressive spatial computing device that 74 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:07,760 you can use at home. Maybe it doesn't have the fantastic new M5 chip in it, 75 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:14,440 and maybe your experience will be a little bit worse for wear because of that, but you're probably still saving 76 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,520 like a lot of money. So, that is almost 77 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:20,280 like the coolest part about this without having used it yet, um 78 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:23,720 but I think now it's time to dive into the actual user experience. But not 79 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:27,800 before I tell you about our sponsor. Thanks to DeleteMe 80 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:31,200 for sponsoring this video. 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The passthrough camera 89 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:07,120 is just as impressive as it was last time, which is impressive, but 90 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:11,560 just as impressive as it was last time. When putting on Vision Pro, position the 91 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,120 lower strap on the back of your head. Dude, it's fascinating that they tell 92 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:20,120 you how to put it on after it's on your head. So, this I I can already tell that 93 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:24,800 where I'm looking, I can use my head to look or I can use my eyes to look, is 94 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:28,400 like selecting the button. But it hasn't indicated to me how to 95 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:32,720 select the button. I'm assuming I just do that. Yep, which is the fact that I 96 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:37,640 was able to assume that is pretty sick. I did use this one time on Lan Show a 97 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:41,000 long time ago, like when it launched, basically, but other than that, I 98 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:46,040 haven't, so that is clearly quite intuitive. Hold your hands up and look 99 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,040 at them. Spread your fingers apart. 100 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:53,320 See, that's such a sweet experience. 101 00:06:50,840 --> 00:07:00,400 I'm moving a window right now. Up, down, left, right, and further away 102 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:03,360 from me and closer to me all just with 103 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:06,560 this, and it feels not so distinct from magic, which is 104 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:11,080 one of the just really killer experiences of this headset. I can read 105 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:16,240 it, but it doesn't seem very like I'd really rather not. Is this way 106 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:19,880 better than alternatives? Mhm. The Quest 3, it is it is rough. I could totally 107 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:25,120 see that. Like I can actually make these words out on like a not enlarged Google 108 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Doc script. It's like a little painful, but I can do it. I wouldn't want to read 109 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,480 this entire document this way. I would rather take the headset off or open it 110 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:37,000 in here. Um but if I like got a text message, 111 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:42,040 I could see what the text message was without taking the headset off, the 112 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:44,320 spatial computing device off, 113 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:48,600 uh and that's cool. I will say, just immediately after after having had it on 114 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:53,520 for a little while now, I kind of forgot about the setup and have just been able 115 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:58,080 to focus on the more digital experience instead of the hardware experience, and 116 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:02,680 I think that speaks decent volumes to the headband being significantly better 117 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:06,240 because I remember last time it resting on my nose and it resting on, 118 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,080 realistically, everyone else's nose was a frustrating part of the experience, 119 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:14,440 and right now I haven't even thought about that at all this whole time. It, 120 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:18,000 again, doesn't it doesn't feel light, but I do actually think the tungsten 121 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:21,840 weighting in the band in the back was worth it to the point where the added 122 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,760 weight, I don't think is going to ultimately be that much of an issue, and 123 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,200 I'm very happy with the distribution of weight change that happened. You're 124 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:33,200 sitting over there with just the behind-the-head band. How's your 125 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:37,200 experience currently? It does feel like you have to constantly adjust it up a 126 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:41,080 little bit. Like it slides down. Yeah, I'm having none of that at all. That 127 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:46,680 feels like a solved problem with this band, I will say. As a deep YouTube 128 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:50,720 enjoyer, the fact that there's no like official YouTube app on here is rough. I 129 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,520 don't know if they're hoping like Apple TV just does way better cuz Apple TV is 130 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,120 clearly like the the first thing in the top corner, and if you've spent this 131 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:03,440 much money on an Apple device, you decently likely have Apple TV, but it is 132 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:07,600 not the same. I need my I need my YouTubes. 133 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:12,120 The first app I see in the App Store having two reviews is interesting, for 134 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:15,480 sure. You could also try turning on your environment. 135 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:19,400 Turn on my environment? Oh, 136 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,120 yeah, screw you guys. I'm out of here. 137 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:31,440 Cool. Let's play LEGO. Yeah, Linus, pay me to play LEGO on 138 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,880 shift. Idiot. This is kind of neat. 139 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,560 If I spent this much money on a headset, I think I could afford actual LEGO and 140 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:43,400 then would probably want to play with actual LEGO. It still feels like we're in um VR 141 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:47,600 headset tech demo land, but it's pretty sweet. Looks like a thrilling 142 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:50,960 experience. I'm stoked. I'm having so much fun. There's quite a bit of light 143 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,160 leakage. Like around my nose, I can see a fair 144 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:59,120 amount of light leakage, and I don't think there's any solving that for me. 145 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:03,040 Like if I make it really low or anything, nothing happens. 146 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:07,160 And I'm going to go into Safari. I'm trying to type in a domain 147 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:11,960 and it's making my brain want to bleed a little bit. Does it have 148 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:17,160 uh speech entry? Enabled to Ah, it wasn't enabled. Okay. 149 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Floatplane.com 150 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:25,320 Is it working? It's working. So, I'm watching Floatplane on my side 151 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:29,520 on my little side screen over here. I'm going to play that. 152 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:34,400 So, you can only play one video at a time, is that right? Oh, whoop. 153 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,160 Hello? Okay, this whole DRM thing where you 154 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:42,520 can't see stuff sucks. 155 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:46,480 Holy crap, you can't even like move the window 156 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:50,680 or close it. Yeah, it just like ruins your experience. That is uh 157 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:55,040 horrible. At least indicate to me that like something's happening. 158 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:59,480 I don't think I can even close it. You must stop recording. Yeah, which 159 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:03,240 sucks cuz I just started recording. Okay, the other thing that I want to try 160 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:08,480 is Floatplane is working great. The only thing that I want to try is going to 161 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:12,400 YouTube. So, you can watch YouTube. It just has to be through the browser. 162 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:15,560 Okay, well, I mean, the fact that YouTube works totally fine in the 163 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:19,480 browser and the fact that you can have multiple tabs of Safari open makes me 164 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,880 not overly concerned about there being no 165 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,640 YouTube app. It seem It seems to work perfectly fine. Like the the YouTube app 166 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:31,000 was immediately responsive. Um it has my 167 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:35,440 suggestions here, you know, I can I can click on things. I can even doom scroll 168 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,280 and watch shorts, I'm assuming. Are any of these going to work? Okay, so there's 169 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,680 little things like I can't seem to scroll left and right with the shorts, but that's probably a good thing. 170 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Hopefully, I'll watch less of them. Honestly, this way it feels like I'm not going to get annoyed by annoying YouTube 171 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:51,520 notifications. So, I'll probably prefer that anyways. This device to me feels 172 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:55,280 more like a desktop experience than a mobile phone. So, I don't I mean, I 173 00:11:53,800 --> 00:12:00,120 would I would use YouTube on a web browser on my desktop anyways, so I 174 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:06,280 don't care. That's totally fine. The immersive photo is really cool. 175 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:11,600 This does feel like a superior way to view this photo. Especially like looking 176 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:15,880 and seeing the tracks and feeling like the tracks are actually closer to me of 177 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:19,520 like a car that drove by is really cool. This is a sweet experience. Is it a 178 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:21,960 sweet experience worth What is it? $3,500? 179 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:27,839 Yeah. And no. I feel limited. I feel mostly limited by the 180 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:32,360 fact that there doesn't seem like there's actually a ton going on. The App 181 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Store the the things that it does have having like very, very few reviews feels 182 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,600 indicative of it probably not having a great Ah, okay. 183 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:45,080 This being for work makes a ton of sense. It's like, "What are the What are 184 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:48,680 the common apps?" And it's like Marvel What If and immersive story, which feels 185 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:53,800 like a made for this type thing. TikTok, Disney 186 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Plus, Red Bull TV, sure sounds good. Space Vision. And then the first thing 187 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:04,120 that doesn't feel like super first party is Microsoft Excel. 188 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Uh yeah. Now, we're looking at the Mac 189 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:12,360 virtual display where I have Bell's laptop in front of me and I can kind of 190 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:15,320 project his laptop screen up into my 191 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:19,000 spatial computing realm. I can change its kind of 192 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:24,200 format, so I can go standard wide or ultra wide. I can resize it by grabbing 193 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,720 the corner and dragging this way. I can I can grab the bar at the bottom just 194 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:32,680 like everything else, bring it closer, push it further away, left, right, up, down, all that fun stuff. But it's 195 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:36,800 effectively the laptop the the screen of the laptop that's in front of me. Now, 196 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:40,240 the laptop screen is black. So, I'm not able to do like a dual monitor thing 197 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:44,440 right now. I know that's something people have complained about and I kind 198 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:49,080 of agreed with them until now, I guess. 199 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:53,720 I'm sure if I had a stand to put my laptop up so that the screen was up 200 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:58,000 here, it would be kind of nice, I guess, maybe. But 201 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:04,240 um it feels like all I need, considering I have my own Safari, I have my own 202 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:07,400 whatever else I want, having my computer here, which also has all its own 203 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Windows. I don't really feel like I need a second screen. 204 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,640 Um I don't think it would be a bad thing if it supported it, but I'm not I don't 205 00:14:11,959 --> 00:14:18,040 feel like I'm missing it having it down here. The input latency feels pretty 206 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:23,120 good. It's not like I'm playing games, I'm just moving the mouse on the desktop, but it's 207 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,760 about what I would would expect or better than from this experience. Where 208 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,010 are the speakers? Are they in the like arms on the side here? Yeah, that little 209 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:36,440 bulb thing. Yeah, yeah. 210 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,880 Eh. I I I I felt better about it when the 211 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:47,320 song first started, but once it kind of got into it and we had 212 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:51,079 bass introduced, it felt worse. I mean, they're not 213 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:55,760 headphones. You could wear these with AirPods, I'm 214 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:59,360 sure. You could pair AirPods to it. Yeah, so you could get a better sounding 215 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:03,160 experience. For for not needing to put something in your ears or even on your 216 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,839 ears covering it, it's pretty good. I didn't exactly expect crazy bass. This 217 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:10,360 is probably better bass than I honestly expected. It's just not like an 218 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:15,760 incredible listening experience or anything. If I was spending a ton of time on planes when I kind of really 219 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:19,520 needed to get work done, I could really see getting a 220 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:24,079 productivity boost out of that out of this and I could see that being worth it 221 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:28,280 for some people. Like I I I think I understand the device. If you If you're 222 00:15:26,079 --> 00:15:32,280 in a super enthusiast Apple adopter and you just want to try everything that 223 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:35,520 they do and you're into bleeding edge 224 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,440 new type of tech and you have a bucket 225 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,200 of cash that you don't mind throwing in the ocean, 226 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,800 um it's cool. It's just for so many people 227 00:15:41,839 --> 00:15:49,640 it makes no sense, which is I think where I get stuck at 228 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:54,520 least is this is a product for a very, very small amount of people. 229 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,880 It's not a product for no one. It's just a product for probably not 230 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:04,000 you. I I don't regret my Bigscreen Beyond 2 231 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:08,280 at all. Primarily because they're for completely different use cases, but it's 232 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:12,440 cool if you have the money and have the use case, which is unlikely. But what is 233 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:16,720 likely is that you want to subscribe to ShortCircuit. 234 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:22,040 Got them. Check out the actually one other time that I've done a ShortCircuit, which I completely forgot 235 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:26,640 about, which is the mineral oil video thing that I did at Computex a bit ago.