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in the beginning there was

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teamspeak then came ventrilo skype mumble and

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skipping over a bunch of platforms that no longer exist

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discord so is discord legitimately better on top

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of being newer or is it just another flash in the pan

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let's find out after i talk about today's video being

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at the link below

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we'll begin with a quick rundown of our competitors teamspeak and mumble are

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both what are called self-hosted voice and chat platforms both of them require

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server software either running on your desktop or a rented server in a data

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center somewhere and both require you to be actively connected to receive

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messages skype and discord by contrast are hosted

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by microsoft and discord respectively

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both of them allow you to send messages to friends who are offline they'll just

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be delivered later and both offer video chat in addition to voice

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they are structured a little differently though discord is more like a social

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network so you can join an existing community or make your own while skype

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operates more like your address book so like your phone you start a conversation

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by scrolling through your contacts list and selecting one or more of them okay

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so now let's talk design and usability both teamspeak and mumble share a theme

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that's reminiscent of the beige pc cases

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of decades past though you can skin them

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well discord and skype are much more modern this is an aesthetic advantage

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but it should be noted that while skype does have a more conventional desktop

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app the Windows store version that microsoft is pushing users towards has

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generated many complaints about it actually being too simplistic to the

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point where it makes it confusing to use adding contacts for instance is done

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through the search skype box rather than intuitively

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by clicking on the plus button so do yourself a favor and don't use the

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Windows store version discord's design on the other hand is

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both beautiful and functional every server that you are a part of is

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displayed in the left tab along with of course your direct messages and

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my main gripe with discord is just the lack of joint voice and text channels as

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it's kind of jarring every time your friend says yo check out this link and

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you have to ask which channel to their credit though they finally added channel

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categories which is great but all of this ignores a huge factor so

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far cost teamspeak has a number of paid licensing

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options and if you don't buy one of them you are capped to 32 slots

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mumble on the other hand is open source and completely free with no slot

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limitations skype is free for up to 25 simultaneous

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users over the internet and if you want to call conventional phones allows you

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to pay for a subscription or a la carte for that service and discord seems to be

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taking the silicon valley social network startup

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approach their core service is free for

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as many people as you want and according to them that's how it's going to stay

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though we'll see how that goes after the insert

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multinational here acquisition anywho let's get to what matters most

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for gamers how do they all sound

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to answer this question for you guys once and for all Jake used three common

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microphones a blue yeti to represent the higher end a pair of hyperx cloud 2s to

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be a typical headset and a mod mic 5

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because it was on his desk at the time each test clip was played through a host

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computer and then recorded on the other end this is a test recording on the blue

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yeti every quality setting was cranked to the max and we turned off both echo

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and noise suppression youtube's audio compression though may

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make it challenging for you guys to hear the differences so if you're interested

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in the raw clips we'll have them available for download in the description

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we'll start with the yeti when discord is working well more on that a little

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later it's basically indistinguishable from teamspeak this is a test recording

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on the blue yeti blackout edition while both mumble and skype have a

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higher noise floor that you'll notice if you listen very closely

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this is a test recording on the blue yeti blackout edition

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switching over to the cloud twos we can hear that the gap between teamspeak and

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discord compared to mumble and skype is more noticeable with lesser source audio

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this is a test recording with the hyperx cloud 2 gaming headset this is a test

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recording with the hyperx cloud 2 gaming headset so mumble has a muddier sound to

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it while skype maintains its background hiss

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this is a test recording with the hyperx cloud 2 gaming headset then the story

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completely chase stays the same actually with the mod mic

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teamspeak and discord are very clear while mumble and skype are slightly

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worse so okay it seems like you can't really go wrong with teamspeak or discord as

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long as that one's working let's talk about that as a regular user our writer

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Jake has noticed a pattern of degraded or

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roboty voice quality on discord

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it's hard to say if it's load-related or completely random without a much larger

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sample size and it can usually be fixed

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by temporarily changing the region of your server but it's one of those things

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that happens often enough that it is worth mentioning

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let's move on to admin control this varies

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wildly across all four platforms skype groups are

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basically limited to kicking and banning while mumble teamspeak and discord offer

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fully fledged rank and permission systems

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teamspeak definitely takes the cake for having the deepest customizability but

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it does come at the cost of the time required to set up and learn the system

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discord on the other hand is much easier and there isn't much that you can't do

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with it so for most people it's probably the way to go here

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but security is another big consideration

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because teamspeak and mumble are self-hosted and can be encrypted

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all the data on your server is yours and

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no other party can access it without your permission discord and skype on the

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other hand both connect you to their servers and

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while discord says they don't sell your information according to their privacy

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policy they can share it with related companies

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so that's just something to keep in mind skype of course is a similar story and

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rs technica reported that microsoft may be snooping for example the urls that

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you send in chat onto overlays another feature not to be overlooked

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teamspeak has an excellent in-game overlay supplied by overwolf that gives

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you access to an easily repositional basically fully functional teamspeak

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window while in game mumble is much more

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limited by contrast but at least does show you which users are talking in your

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channel discord shows you who's talking and

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allows you to switch channels or servers on the fly

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and also has some great integration with twitch so you can auto sync subscribers

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and even show who's talking on stream talking talking talking

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leading us then to the final answer what is the best voice platform out there

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well in terms of pure sound quality it's hard to compete with teamspeak's

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reliable clarity but discord sounds just

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as good most of the time and i think our

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poll response numbers indicate what our viewers think of its excellent chat

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system and community building features if you're looking for an open source

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solution with top-notch security though mumble is probably the way to go and as

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for skype well at least the ip address resolving

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nonsense is finally fixed and it's blue so if you like the color

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