{"video_id":"V0rMMp9LljU","title":"MSI 870A FUZION Lucid Hydralogix Multi GPU 3DMark Vantage Demo Linus Tech Tips","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2011-05-08T14:53:29Z","duration_s":204,"segments":[{"start_s":0.64,"end_s":7.359,"text":"as promised here is a video showcasing","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":3.679,"end_s":8.96,"text":"the Lucid logic Hydra engine and so that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":7.359,"end_s":15.0,"text":"is the chip on this particular motherboard this is the MSI 870a fusion","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":12.36,"end_s":20.88,"text":"and you can see I have one 5870 and one GeForce GTX 480 you can't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":19.119,"end_s":27.4,"text":"really see that but it says 480 there I assure you it does and I am running","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":23.24,"end_s":30.439,"text":"these in here we are we'll bring up 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one","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":141.44,"end_s":148.0,"text":"either that hard drive clearly not plugged into a system so there's no","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":145.519,"end_s":152.319,"text":"Wizardry going on here it is actually working so I'll show you the score in a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":149.239,"end_s":156.04,"text":"minute so there you have it if you ever","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":152.319,"end_s":159.84,"text":"wondered what would a GTX 480 plus a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":156.04,"end_s":162.68,"text":"5870 score in 3D Mark Vantage there it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":159.84,"end_s":169.28,"text":"is about 18,000 points so just for some context the scores that I got compared","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":164.879,"end_s":173.68,"text":"to this are about 14,000 3D marks for an","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":169.28,"end_s":177.76,"text":"individual 5870 14,000 about 14.5 about","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":173.68,"end_s":180.72,"text":"15,000 for a single 480 and then I also","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":177.76,"end_s":185.879,"text":"got a score running two 480s of about 19,000 so you can clearly see the 480 is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":183.4,"end_s":188.799,"text":"a little bit more powerful than the 5870 and then when you add them together you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":187.2,"end_s":193.879,"text":"get something that's a little bit less than 2480 so it's uh seems to work","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":192.319,"end_s":197.799,"text":"pretty well in Vantage although my conclusion about the technology as a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":195.56,"end_s":205.68,"text":"whole is that the driver support isn't quite there yet but it looks very","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":200.239,"end_s":205.68,"text":"promising and very cool at this time","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"as promised here is a video showcasing the Lucid logic Hydra engine and so that is the chip on this particular motherboard this is the MSI 870a fusion and you can see I have one 5870 and one GeForce GTX 480 you can't really see that but it says 480 there I assure you it does and I am running these in here we are we'll bring up the uh hydrologics engine control panel so I'm running them in an enable hydr Logics and I'm actually running them in X mode now I'm just going to show 3D Mark Vantage um but one I just want to talk briefly about the advantages and disadvantages of Hydra first of all the an advantage is that it allows you to run two NVIDIA cards together for a performance increase on an AMD chipset which is what we're doing here I actually ran those numbers as well it also allows you to run two ATI cards either in crossfire mode or in hydrolics mode and then you can ALS o run two mixed cards from completely different manufacturers for a performance boost so it gives you that flexibility another thing it allows you to do is take cards from completely different Generations like a 5800 and a 5700 and run those together for a performance increase very cool stuff now the disadvantage is that you do depend on the drivers from Lucid so that's where you're going to get support enabled for whatever games you want to run uh with this particular configuration so it's not going to work in everything and compatibility was a wee bit spotty according to my testing but uh here you are I'm going to launch Vantage and then I will show you it actually does run and you do get a tangible performance boost kind of cool here it is here is the evidence that it does actually work check this out we are in X mode dx10 you can you can disable this little badge here obviously well not obviously but you can you can do it and uh so it'll say a mode or n mode when you're in uh the various modes so here are the two cards and I'm not cheating see there's no other system here there's a lot of other parts probably systems worth of Parts but see you can clearly see that one's not plugged in and uh you can clearly see that these graphics cards are not plugged into motherboards neither is that one so not not that one either that hard drive clearly not plugged into a system so there's no Wizardry going on here it is actually working so I'll show you the score in a minute so there you have it if you ever wondered what would a GTX 480 plus a 5870 score in 3D Mark Vantage there it is about 18,000 points so just for some context the scores that I got compared to this are about 14,000 3D marks for an individual 5870 14,000 about 14.5 about 15,000 for a single 480 and then I also got a score running two 480s of about 19,000 so you can clearly see the 480 is a little bit more powerful than the 5870 and then when you add them together you get something that's a little bit less than 2480 so it's uh seems to work pretty well in Vantage although my conclusion about the technology as a whole is that the driver support isn't quite there yet but it looks very promising and very cool at this time"}