WEBVTT 00:00:00.719 --> 00:00:11.240 as you can see that is a video card on the test bench that is the brand 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:13.679 spanking new gForce GTS 450 from NVIDIA 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:18.480 this is the Cyclone OC that is overclocked Edition from MSI it has 1 00:00:15.799 --> 00:00:23.199 gig of RAM so you can see I have the box for it here along with a couple cards 00:00:21.279 --> 00:00:29.160 that I'm going to be comparing it against today so first of all we want to 00:00:26.439 --> 00:00:35.040 compare it against the GTX 460 so you can see I have a Cyclone OC 1 gig card 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:40.039 from MSI for that comparison Point here's the box for the GTS 450 which is 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:44.559 the one on the test bench right now and because it's one of the closest price 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:50.239 competitors on the ATI side although uh slightly more expensive at launch the 00:00:47.760 --> 00:00:54.160 5770 uh will also be included in the comparison today we're just going to run 00:00:51.559 --> 00:00:59.079 some simple numbers and yeah let's see how it goes both from 00:00:56.680 --> 00:01:03.640 a performance standpoint as well as from a there's my energy meter power 00:01:01.519 --> 00:01:06.600 consumption standpoint the test platform why don't we go through that really 00:01:04.720 --> 00:01:09.600 quick you can see I have like ghetto plastic in between these to keep them 00:01:08.119 --> 00:01:15.439 from touching it's because I left my test bench um and I don't really have 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:22.079 one to use at the moment but that's neither here nor there we have a 4.15 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:26.040 GHz core i7 980x under a cooler here we 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:29.640 have 12 gigs of ocz special edition DDR3 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:34.680 RAM a big bang X power MSI Motherboard 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:36.399 and we have a 90 plus% efficient fanless 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:39.759 power supply actually running the whole thing so that's going to give us a 00:01:37.960 --> 00:01:45.719 really good idea of how much power is actually being drawn the hard drive is 00:01:42.240 --> 00:01:47.719 going to be an ocz vertex Le 200 gig 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:51.520 drive and I guess that pretty much covers the test platform all right well 00:01:49.960 --> 00:01:57.759 our Vantage run is complete so you can see the GTS 450 scored 00:01:54.320 --> 00:02:01.719 11,431 3D marks with 9,200 of those 00:01:57.759 --> 00:02:05.200 almost 9,300 being on the GPU score now 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:08.200 I want to just point something out this 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:13.520 Benchmark is not particularly useful for comparing the 450 to the 00:02:10.959 --> 00:02:19.959 5770 but when you're looking at two cards within the same architecture 00:02:16.160 --> 00:02:22.000 family so these are both firmy based 00:02:19.959 --> 00:02:28.080 derivatives okay so if we compare it against the 460 it on the same platform 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:30.120 it should give us at least a a fairly 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:36.440 good indication of how the power these cards compares to each other speaking of 00:02:32.200 --> 00:02:38.879 power the 450 maxed out at 337 wats 00:02:36.440 --> 00:02:45.120 during our Vantage test so let's bear that number in mind for 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:52.080 later next Benchmark is Crisis so this is running at uh 10 oh 1680 by 1050 00:02:49.519 --> 00:02:56.440 that's the word I was looking for it is running at you can see our last run was 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:59.840 uh 61 frames per second that was the first run out of the bench though so 00:02:58.040 --> 00:03:04.239 usually that one goes a little bit slow lower so you can see the average FPS for 00:03:02.239 --> 00:03:07.920 this particular run through is about 66 frames per second like I said I'm 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:12.959 running at 1680 by 1050 uh there you go 65.5 five is what 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:17.640 it scored on that one I am running with all details medium because really we're 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:21.959 looking at cards that are in the 149 sort of price range for the most part I 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:28.120 mean this one goes up to around $2.49 but uh you can't really expect at almost 00:03:24.920 --> 00:03:29.879 HD resolution to be you know turning up 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:34.200 the details to Max unless you're starting to invest in more expensive 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:38.840 cards like for example over here we've got a 460 lightning and we've got a GTX 00:03:37.040 --> 00:03:43.519 480 I mean if you're an Enthusiast you want to run at HD Plus resolutions all 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:47.200 high details anti-aliasing Etc speaking of which I'm not using anti-aliasing 00:03:45.519 --> 00:03:52.920 those over there are going to be the cards for you but you can see the GTS 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:55.720 450 does post very respectable numbers 00:03:52.920 --> 00:04:01.720 and I mean crisis at medium still looks great so that is how that went okay the 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:06.599 ma 2 run is going to be a little bit different first of all I want you to 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:11.480 know that the in-game Benchmark does not actually present a a very accurate real 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:15.079 world scenario it runs quite a bit slower than you'd actually uh expect 00:04:13.720 --> 00:04:20.320 from the game in the real world so here are all the settings I'm running and of 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:24.120 note is the fact that again antialiasing is off it's a high-end game it's a 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:28.880 mid-range graphics card antialiasing does not provide in my opinion enough of 00:04:26.400 --> 00:04:33.720 a gameplay benefit to sacrifice things like Shadows 00:04:30.320 --> 00:04:36.080 and other details for it okay and I have 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:41.160 turned physics on because unlike the other titles we've been looking at Mafia 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:44.280 2 is all about the physx support if you have an NVIDIA card you better be 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:49.560 running it with physx on because that's how you're going to get the best gameplay experience all right we're just 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:53.479 finishing up the Benchmark run here you can see we've got an average of 33 00:04:51.280 --> 00:04:58.199 frames per second so that's a little bit on the low side of what I would consider 00:04:55.440 --> 00:05:02.360 playable but yeah it gives us a point of comparison against the other cards that 00:04:59.960 --> 00:05:06.520 we are going to be looking at today so here you go the performance is not 00:05:03.960 --> 00:05:10.919 optimal rank d as I mentioned before the actual in-game Benchmark is a little bit 00:05:08.880 --> 00:05:15.759 on the slower side compared to what you would experience uh playing the game all 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:20.160 right these are my Arkham Asylum options in the control panel this is another 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:24.400 NVIDIA uh physics ready game so I've gone ahead and left Hardware accelerated 00:05:21.880 --> 00:05:27.800 physics on it's set to normal because we don't I mean they recommend really a 00:05:26.080 --> 00:05:32.800 dedicated physics card for the high setting vsync is off everything else is 00:05:30.440 --> 00:05:35.160 as you see here Batman Arkham Asylum ready to 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.880 run doing one more run of Mafia 2 One 00:05:39.280 --> 00:05:46.240 Small Change Is that the Apex physics are set to medium because I am not 00:05:43.919 --> 00:05:50.840 running with GPU physics anymore I just wanted to do an Apples to Apples 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:51.840 comparison against the 5770 just so that 00:05:50.840 --> 00:05:56.720 we uh have one more point of reference here 00:05:54.919 --> 00:06:01.880 it really is plain to see that this game is not nearly as cool without the 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:07.360 physics on high I just thought I'd uh do a quick clip here just to say my 00:06:05.440 --> 00:06:12.080 thoughts on it with the with the physics on medium running on the CPU uh you know 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:16.199 the outdoor scene in particular you can't really notice it much in here but 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:22.000 uh not nearly as many part persistent particles not nearly as much damage and 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:25.080 things like the building um just way way 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:28.280 less interesting to to 00:06:25.080 --> 00:06:29.919 watch so besides the lon Stellar uh 00:06:28.280 --> 00:06:34.520 physics performance with it on medium running on the CPU the frame rate was 00:06:32.080 --> 00:06:34.520 quite a bit 00:06:52.759 --> 00:07:00.919 lower so in conclusion I give it about a C+ uh that is my video review not the 00:06:58.919 --> 00:07:06.879 card itself I think I might just stick to the whole unboxings product showcases 00:07:04.520 --> 00:07:09.879 uh gameplay videos simpler things like that because stringing together a 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:13.879 complete review seems to be too complicated for me for whatever reason 00:07:11.919 --> 00:07:17.479 but anyway let's talk a little bit about the conclusions about this card first of 00:07:15.440 --> 00:07:20.199 all this is the Cyclone cooler card I'm going to have some separate videos 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:27.080 coming up in the next little while where I'm going to show some overclocking numbers I'm going to show uh some 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:30.160 acoustic numbers well not really numbers but some acoustic characteristics of it 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:34.720 because really the test test bench I had was far too loud for you to appreciate 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:37.919 how quiet the card is so I have to put together a silent test bench so I can 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:41.400 kind of do my whole here I'm going to hold the camera close to the card you 00:07:39.400 --> 00:07:45.280 can see how quiet it is thing so that should be fine as far as the performance 00:07:43.400 --> 00:07:50.360 versus the price goes uh power consumption is slightly improved over 00:07:47.159 --> 00:07:52.159 the 460 series card and the price to 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:59.720 Performance ratio still looks quite good now it's not quite a 5770 or 5750 killer 00:07:57.400 --> 00:08:03.560 but I mean knowing NVIDIA we're going to see MIRS from their Partners we're going 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:07.680 to probably see some IRS come into effect and I think that it will become a 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:11.199 very very strong Contender especially when you consider that it has features 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:15.120 that you don't necessarily find on competing products I mean Mafia 2 is a 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:20.960 great example of a game that you really can enjoy on a GTS 450 I mean yeah not 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:26.360 to the same level as with a 460 but you can have a good experience with it at 00:08:22.840 --> 00:08:27.879 sub HD resolutions and with physx you 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:30.919 really do get a better gameplay experience so I mean that's something to 00:08:29.520 --> 00:08:34.839 really bear in mind about a card like this thank you for checking out my I 00:08:32.640 --> 00:08:40.000 guess first attempt at a real video review and don't forget to subscribe to 00:08:36.959 --> 00:08:41.959 lonus Tech tips that was pretty much it 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:45.560 oh no one more thing yes if you want to get the best performance possible don't 00:08:43.760 --> 00:08:50.480 forget use the latest version of After Burner from MSI uh 2.0 that will give 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:55.080 you all of the voltage adjustments that you can do on this card and also use the 00:08:52.920 --> 00:08:58.600 latest drivers from NVIDIA their new 260 series drivers that'll give you better 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:02.720 performance on this as well as many other fmy base cards