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all right my friends welcome to the W

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show we've got a great show for you guys today and by we I mean I have a great

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show for you guys today because while I will potentially have

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someone sitting in this chair in fact they might rotate in and out I am

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without my one my only my

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flame Luke today

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Luke is gone for

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today to a wedding not his wedding so I

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really didn't feel like it was that important compared to being here with me

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for w show but he insisted on taking a

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banked day for one of the days that he has already worked so what could I

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really say other than you vicious bastard how dare you I'm now Luke I'm

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the new Luke you're tall but you're not strong like

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Luke well not yet there are armor you

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can't get any closer to me but yeah we're not centered okay now we're a

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little more centered in the frame so yeah I'll have be having Taran join me today and probably some other people who

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actually know things about tech at some point um and then I think yeah without

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further Ado I'll kick off what we've got for our topics today so Windows 10

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according to an article from Forbes is apparently sending your PC's data to

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Microsoft although there has been some debate as to

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uh what exactly it is that's going on

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there I mean look at this guy I can't even figure out how to turn a laptop on although in your defense that one is

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kind of tricky to turn on uh AMD Zen based optons shown up in slides in a

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debate at CERN which is pretty interesting I mean it's not like it was

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so much of a stretch that AMD is probably going to have opteron products

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based on their Zen architecture but there you go now there are slides to go with them AMD's Polaris graphics cards

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will apparently make the minimum VR spec

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more affordable for everyone this just in new graphics cards will make higher

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performance and lower prices more possible wow that's really new news more

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at 11 did you just increase the size of my Tex really small well you're supposed

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to use your computer well I'm going to but you were just like leaning really

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forward also how do I get to it on my computer well you I don't know where the

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what the link is uh well oh for crying

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out loud Taran we'll do this while we roll the intro okay all right I got one

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more I got one more topic to uh to throw out here Intel according to tell chips

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to become slower but more efficient more at 11 Oh

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weird I sign as myself uh

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yes there can only be one caring are you going to talk about the uh gravity

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waves no actually I don't have that in the dock oh it's so cool you can talk

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about gravity about although I don't know enough are we still are they still

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hearing us yes they can still hear us they can still hear us because we don't

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have a very good audio control board well no they can hear us on purpose I

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can make them not hear us oh okay I always assumed that was a mistake on

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your part no every single time I can make them stop hearing us immediately no

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I I want them I want because Luke and I will often you know my good co-host and

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I will often chat while the intro is rolling and we'll pretend that we don't

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know that the audience can hear us and they'll be all like we can still hear you in the chat and it's fun it's it's

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fun to have fun but you have to know how that's really fun all right let's go

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ahead and uh a link to the dock still oh you still need a link to the dock oh you

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want to look at the dock I see all right

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there you go all right enjoy enjoy the dock yay so let's get into our first

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topic really quick here this was posted by tofu man89 on the Forum and the

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original article here is from Forbes so

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let's go ahead and oh what the hey we'll look at forbes's quote of the day and

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their interesting topics let's see if they suggest the topic we're about to

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look at no they don't interesting all right thank you for that

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so this is an article written by Gordon Kelly and that's the Windows 10 worst

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secret spins out of control there have actually been quite a

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few Updates this is very much a go go it won't let me open it as Taran it wants

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me to be luke then just sign in with a different account well I'm not Luke

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though that then that's why you click sign in I signed in well you're just

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you're with a different account I already did this there then you sign in

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as Teran well why do I have to sign in twice all right all right do your thing

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do your thing all right oh wait what it still wants me to be luke uh what yeah

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use a different browser oh for heaven s go all right so basically the gist of

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this article is that or the the claim that this article makes is that by going

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through a process that involved using a DDWRT if I recall correctly uh DDWRT

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firmware flashed router um the author

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well the author pulled from a post on

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some Reddit clone or something where the guy took that router and analyzed what

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was happening like how many how many attempts his fresh install of Windows 10

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in a VM was making to communicate and

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with whom and determined that many of those servers were indeed Microsoft

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servers in spite of the user having turned off as many of uh Windows 10's

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phone home features as was possible at

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least on the consumer versions I was wondering about that when I was

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listening to all this Barnacle stuff that he posted about how to disable it

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all I'm like how do you know for sure

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that it's been disabled yeah so now so

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okay this was a user on vote by the way

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I believe the original post has actually been pulled down deleted by user at this

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point um now I did read another very

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very interesting article in in response to this this was also posted in the

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lonus tech tips uh Forum post about this

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where another another author completely different site came out and said well

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hold on a second why don't we have a look at what all of this traffic is and

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it turned out that a very significant chunk of it was legitimate traffic

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checking in with Microsoft's activation server for example to see if you've

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activated Windows which is fair play um

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some of them were even requests to the npt time server uh or ntp whatever it is

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the were just requests to a Time server to check the clock and make sure that it

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was accurate which as far as my experience has been never works anyway

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so I just assume it didn't bother but uh that's a whole other topic of

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conversation and so that author determined that at least I think it was

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something like 90% of this traffic was totally legitimate traffic and part of

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the reason why there might have been thousands and thousands of requests in a

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short period of time would have been that because of the way that the router

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was set up these requests weren't going through so it would have been making

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repeated attempts okay so the drama

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continues and um Gordon Kelly from

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Forbes writes a follow-up article saying well you know what my point wasn't

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necessarily the thousands of communication attempts and what exactly

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was being communicated my point was if

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that you are turning stuff down oh apparently uh oh apparent apparently I'm

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peeking I'm sorry the point was that if

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they are turning if they are if you're turning all this stuff off then they

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shouldn't be sending out anything um so

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originally originally Microsoft didn't really respond to Gordon Kelly's article

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to the first one but they have since responded Yes yes I I I know I know I'm

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sorry I'm sorry about what um

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I just turned it down the peing oh the peeking what can't we have

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like an auto gate or whatever the heck it's called on here to we we have a

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compressor but it's hard it audio is a big pain in the ass

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yeah I can tell you that from having to work with it okay well I can I can check

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real quick and see if we've managed to fix it but it'll be hard to tell because

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I'm talking a lot quieter now so uh whoa

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yeah likes to shout all of his things

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all the time I'm lonus okay so basically

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yeah you know this actually has an indicator so I I I could have been a lot

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more careful and I'm very very sorry to the audience right there I I that was

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that was very that was a mean thing to uh for for me to do turn down for what

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yeah yeah thank you for that okay so

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anyway the drama continues and Microsoft has now finally responded to the second

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to the follow-up article and and said that sometime this year they are going

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to make it possible to turn off everything um I think we have a somewhat

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of a time frame for the Enterprise version but I don't know if we have a

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time frame for home or Pro users yet um

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but they recommend not turning it off

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and now to be clear I am not necessarily

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A tinfoil hat user you know I don't think that Microsoft cares what I ate

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for lunch personally I think they might care what everyone

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collectively is eating for lunch hence the anonymized data there is a lot of

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value to that anonymized data mining so I don't I don't think they care about me

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um but the problem here as the Forbes

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writer as Gordon Kelly has pointed out is that if you turn it off if you opt

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out it should be opted out it should be

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fully opted out and you should not have to send any further

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information so

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yeah I guess uh I I you know what here I

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want to hear from you guys I want to know if you care and you too you've just

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kind of sat there for now I mean I I have you have the dock yet I have no I

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have the dock I've been looking at gravitational waves stuff okay l so do

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you care if Microsoft do do you trust Microsoft to collect your personal data

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in a way that is not well can I finish the question to collect your personal

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data in a way that is not personally identic if iable and that is not

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ethically incorrect

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well I mean what data exactly cuz for

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something like a smartphone you kind of understand that it's a bit more public

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but on my personal computer um like I I I want I want

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privacy I want protection I want to be able to do whatever you know nefarious

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things I might get up to without Microsoft knowing about it even

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anonymous I don't know I mean if if any of you have read 1984 obviously bit of a

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different thing with Communism and all that but the the whole idea of my

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computer spying on me just kind of makes my skin crawl I don't like it I want to

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opt out completely that should be my choice yeah totally okay so riddle me

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this then why do you accept this on your phone well I I don't actually um why do

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you accept it more why did you even say that why is it that the phone feels less

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personal than the personal computer love I'd love to hear from you less personal

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yeah um well less

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private uh I don't know it's um it's it

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it it was really annoying to me when I first got a smartphone and you remember

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that cuz you gave me my first smartphone cuz I had a crappy Fisher Price looking

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phone he was literally not even using a flip phone he was still using a brick

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phone was awful um but like I don't know

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like they do make me uncomfortable I've just gotten used to it it's like boiling

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the Frog I mean every smartphone is basically a telescreen it's insane how

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much data they can track from you with a simple smartphone

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but I want my personal computer at least I mean I don't know maybe I just I'm not

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used to it yet maybe I haven't been boiled the Frog enough for my personal

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computer and that's what they're trying to do we've got some people in twitch

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chat saying because you use it in public so do you feel like because

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someone could be looking over your shoulder you're not in your own home yeah yeah yeah I I can see yeah maybe

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maybe that's the intuitive sort of idea that I'm getting here lead this leads

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really well into one of our other topics so I'm glad we're having this conversation but I want to jump back

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into the results of that straw pull do you care if Microsoft collects your data

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we've got a whopping 53% of you going

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with yes and 32% of you not caring and

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3% of you the correct or excuse me 15%

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of you going with the correct Choice which is of course turnip yeah whatever

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um you know what I I

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actually as far as evil companies go and

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yes I understand that this is this is kind of kind of dumb and that you know

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there's I I what I should be doing is spending all of my time you know VPN up

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and and turning off all reporting and creating custom you know custom firewall

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rules within my router to block any un I

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I installed Windows 10 and I left all

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the customer experience stuff on I I

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left it on default um if I'm going to trust Google with my data then I really

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think Microsoft is the lesser of two evils or has been the lesser of two

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evils over the last little while here um and I use so many Google services for so

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much of what I do even our company uses

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Google for our company emails which is

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like about as about as personal as

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anything about me actually gets really like the the innermost workings of my

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business um so I figure if Google's got

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it all then you know I'm just I'm almost

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kind of just waiting for the hammer to drop on all this like all these

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companies have all this information about you they haven't done anything super nefarious with it yet but maybe

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one day that we know that we know maybe one day they will I mean you know you'll

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get hauled Away by the secret police tonight maybe you know yeah we've got a

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lot of people talking in chat saying it's not as simple as a yes or no answer

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and I think that might be part of why we got so few responses to that straw poll

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because usually we get a lot more uh we've got people saying like well well

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just a second it depends what they're collecting I mean if Cortana or Siri

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wants to know when my appointment is um so that she can remind me then like cool

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or if they want to know my birthday so they can send me a little birthday wish

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or whatever I don't need that but well it's not about need it's about it's

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about making the user experience friendlier and that's what a lot of the

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data they're collecting is for yeah yeah yeah I mean but but the NSA also told us

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that they can you know they can be trusted to have our personal information

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and they totally turned out it couldn't be trusted y

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so and what if maybe they are totally trustworthy now and they have no

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nefarious intents they're just collecting this data to do the best

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things they can with it great customer experience and so on how do we know that

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won't change in the future we don't we don't we don't I mean you look at you

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look at how much Microsoft has changed in the last year with the CEO shift has

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it yeah I haven't noticed they're they're they're a pretty different

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company um and and I've heard this not just from you know media Outlets who

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read very different press releases I've heard this from people internally at

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Microsoft they're saying it really is different there so I mean that's great

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um but what that means is if you can have an if you can have a change for the

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better with a with a with leadership change and we're not talking like hiring

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an outside CEO he didn't come from outside the company we're talking an

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internal guy um so if you can have a change for the better by putting a

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different internal guy in charge I think you can definitely have a change for the worse I mean imagine if we put Taran in

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charge of lonus Media Group that'd be a disaster all of our videos would be about robots well maybe not all of that

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speaking of which do we have our our co-host what the the the yeah the no

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he's over there I don't want to even I hate that thing so much I don't want to

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see it ever again hey I actually I have this is this is a good opportunity for a

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straw poll because I found that the live audience is actually a little bit

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different than the uh than the vaud audience the uh the Youtube audience so

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what do you think of taran's Hosting

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improvements if you guys have cuz I think that he has done a lot better oh I

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got a lot of really good comments interesting note on the video that I

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just finished editing right now which is the fly cly smart ped scooter kick

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assist ebug like I'm less good of a host

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I'm like more awkward and the reason is the prompto was so far away because we

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had to get the whole bike in the shot that I could barely read it and saw I was awkwardly reading off the prompter

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like this and it just was awful also there's no good teleprompter software in

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the universe nope so that also sucks

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there might be something but it's like anything in the professional production

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industry where the the the half yeah the

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half decent one is like add two zeros almost worth it at this point though I

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mean if it exists you know what I think we do need to get a bigger prompter oh

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yeah cuz you're not the only one that has trouble with it's way too small I

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well I can far away well lonus is magical he will like do a one take or a

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two take for an entire video and it's like oh I have to make two cuts and then

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it's done you just start plopping on the graphics all right so actually really

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good feedback so far we've got 63% saying great mate eight out of eight um

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17% voting correctly for turnup uh 16%

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saying okay and only 5% saying bad if 5%

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of the internet thinks that you suck you're doing really well that's not bad

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well not the internet I mean this is a very biased poll I'm sure the more

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hardcore fans are the ones who watch live I I think I think that's fair but

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you know what I've also experienced is that sometimes the more hardcore fans

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have been the ones that have been more resistant to

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change it was a lot of the hardc that

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Obed to Luke hosting videos back when we initially did it I can hardly imagine I

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mean remember luk do you remember the first time you hosted a fast as possible

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awful they were like who is this guy why does he have a beard thing oh yeah like

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my hosting was awkward and also lots of yeah but we didn't even properly

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introduced me I wanted to put a lower third well they would have hated you no

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matter and L was like no you don't need to put your name on there or any

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information about who the heck you are it'll be fine and it was awkward it was

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awkward well okay they know me now yeah

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yeah yeah you know what's really funny too is Brandon is the only one who never

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got any Flack Luke got Flack you got

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Flack Ed got Flack people just instantly

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love Brandon and it's not just it's not just people watching our videos my kids

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like Brandon your cats like Brandon yeah like my son was really really shy

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especially at the beginning you never worked out of the garage right you

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joined us at the house so when we worked out of my house in the

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my son was young very sh did not did not

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like Luke didn't like pretty much anyone he's a big guy but would give Brandon a

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big smile that's so weird yeah it's bizarre he's just like a big teddy bear

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yeah he's not as big as he thinks he is sorry Brandon you're not that ripped

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you're not that ripped

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Brandon Brandon sucks quite on set yeah

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quiet on set quiet on set Brandon wa I I put that in the video where you say that

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that that'll that's coming up soon that's our that's like funny enough

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that's like our new favorite is we just rip on Brandon because he'll be like

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somewhere else in the studio and then when he goes to reply it's like don't

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quiet on set no we're doing a video Brandon yeah we're recording Brandon you

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can't say anything Brandon can't say anything back um so this is some good

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news for AMD uh Mr troll posted this originally on the lineus tech tips Forum

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amds oh you know what no let's not do this topic next let's do a different

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topic next because I had said that that last topic um it was a great segue into

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something was a great Segway never made segue yeah no no it's it's here it's

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here somewhere my Segways are better than Linus's uh I don't even need to do

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a poll my Segways are amazing speaking

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of whatever yeah something else here we

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that's not a segue so this was posted by Jaws on the Forum the our original

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article here is from deep.web all right

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and the headline here is pretty concerning turning your phone on is

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consenting to being tracked by whom so

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but but this is it and it's funny that we say this because you basically just

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said that you would be more accepting of

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that than someone tracking you when you're on your PC at home and you didn't

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know why accepting but you didn't even know why you said it because boil the

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Frog because boil the Frog but it's interesting that you might actually be

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more right than you would have even thought about and if You' thought about

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how right you were you probably wouldn't have said it because this is the

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argument being made um so Baltimore

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Police obtained an arrest warrant for Karen Andrews in 2014 arrests see it's

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happening in an attempt to find this person they used his cell phone yeah of

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course they did okay so they requested a pen register order from the judge

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expressing intent to locate Karen they used a hail storm to track the phone and

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never disclosed this wait hang on a hail storm yeah what do you mean a hail storm

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is that a device or an actual hail storm um okay so a hail storm is a machine

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that steals your phone's data so there's a variety of there's a variety of

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different ones oh is that like a stingray it it intercepts it like it

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acts like a telephone pole um yeah so it

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covertly intercepts mobile phone conversations in real time okay okay so

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they used a hail storm to track phone they never disclosed it um so basically

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it acts like a mobile Tower and attacks phones that connect to it it is

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indiscriminate and can easily end up scooping up innocent bystanders

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information so the Baltimore Sun reports that the police have used the technology

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4,300 times oh sure since 2007 I'm not

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surprised um a response to a discovery

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request asking if Police use a stingray was stalled until June 2015 and in June

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2015 a judge concluded the information was intentionally withheld from the

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defense by police violating legal disclosure

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obligations so they're up to some sneaky shite in

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the brief's first statement it states while cell phones are ubiquitous they

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all come with an off switch oh if a cell

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phone is turned on it is receiving signals from cell towers and sending

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signals back out to cell towers unless you put it in Airplane Mode right the

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cell site simulat yes

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the Cell Site Simulator used in this case took advantage of that fact in

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order to locate andrews's phone because Andrew and this is this is bolded in my

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notes because Andrews chose to keep his cell phone on he was voluntarily sharing

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the location of his cell phone with third parties it's like oh it's it's

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your fault you left your blinds open and we looked inside your house except that

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what they really have is a device that looks through the walls because no one

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else has this thing that can intercept cell phone signals with that said I mean

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and let's I'm going to play Devil's Advocate a little bit here it is the

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case that if you have the blinds open of

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your house yeah and someone a legal thing someone can see what they can see

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from public property not on your private property then you are not private would

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you agree that turning on your phone which it is true it is true you are

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inherently ageing to share information

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about your location with third parties

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would you argue that that air space is

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not private well are the signals encrypted

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or not no okay can you encrypt the

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signals not you won't have a way of encrypting

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everything I mean encryption has to be supported at both end points yeah and in

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flight and so it's it's not not not a thing at the I me I I I just just sounds

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ridiculous to me is all so and and

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remember it's it's not everything like you can enter your credit card

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information and that can be encrypted while it's being sent but we're talking

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about voice here yeah um I I think that's dumb I mean if I'm in my if I if

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I'm Alexander van Bell or whatever his name was not van Bell van Bell van Bell

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who by the way didn't invent the telephone yeah way to be an American

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about it whatever um like you're in your home making a phone call mhm and then

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you hang up the phone and the person answering in their home listening to you

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y and just because you have a fancy wiretapping device doesn't mean that you

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should be allowed to listen to my conversation I don't see the difference

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between picking up my phone and just leaving it on MH you know with the

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signal uh dial tone and well I mean if

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you pick up your phone and you just leave it sitting around and then someone

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hears something that you say but they're somewhere where they shouldn't have been

00:25:55.240 --> 00:26:02.320
anyway yeah but they're in a public space it's I I don't like any of this at

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all I just don't like it I don't want to have to like oh you have your phone

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anyway no it's like this is my phone so I will I will make the argument that

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even if the police didn't do anything illegal to uh to Andrews like even if

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they were in public doing public things um I would

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make the argument that they did something illegal to the cell phone

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carrier because they do actually pay for

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the exclusive right to use those bands now with that said we have a cell phone

00:26:33.399 --> 00:26:41.559
signal booster here in our office that's true that effectively acts as a little

00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:46.600
mini tower right here in our building and then translates everything in and

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out to the a nearby cell phone tower yeah but it's dumb it just it's

00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:54.399
basically a what if it wasn't well then it that that would be laws would have

00:26:52.520 --> 00:26:57.880
something to say about about that I would hope well the carrier wouldn't

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care so the carrier is the one who owns the spect mhm okay or well the carrier

00:27:01.520 --> 00:27:08.880
doesn't it's legal mhm it's legal for me to have that you think it would ever be

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illegal uh could somebody abuse this

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technology everyone in this complex could be talking on our booster could

00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:21.320
they yes they and then we could tap in and be perfectly legal in fact our cell

00:27:18.679 --> 00:27:25.600
phone booster had an issue with it last uh two weeks ago where our outer anten

00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:29.840
our outdoor antenna was too close to our indoor antenna and it was causing an

00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:34.159
interference Spike on someone else's mobile network so our carrier didn't

00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:38.039
even know oh yeah um but they showed up and they were like hey yo you actually

00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:41.919
need to move those and that was definitely interfering with the service

00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:46.240
of other people around us who were not even on the same carrier mhm cuz our

00:27:44.399 --> 00:27:50.159
cell phone booster is Carrier agnostic it actually works with every Canadian

00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:54.240
carrier so someone in the next building over and the next building over there

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because we got a Ballin cell phone booster uh with like Ballin antennas

00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:01.559
because we had really we had really bad

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yeah like we couldn't use our phones in the building um but that means that they

00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:10.200
can have the benefit of our cell phone booster and we could theoretically

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intercept and that would be legal I don't know okay but if the police the

00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:20.799
kind of thing that should be if the police do it then maybe if they go

00:28:19.159 --> 00:28:24.080
through the correct due process it is legal but I think the argument being

00:28:22.159 --> 00:28:26.360
made here is that they didn't they intentionally didn't disclose it but

00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:31.720
they're saying hey well whatever if you turn on your phone you should accept that third parties have your

00:28:34.919 --> 00:28:39.600
location what's the next topic yeah I'll

00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:43.600
try and find something that you'll like a little bit better okay uh so this was

00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:48.679
posted by Mr troll on the Forum the original article here is from wccf Tech

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AMD's Polaris graphics cards will make the minimum VR spec more affordable for

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everyone targeting price points below

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3.49 to deliver what would be a min

00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:05.360
minimum minimum like a minimum recommended uh gameplay experience in VR

00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:09.360
so this is something Luke's talked about a fair bit on the show and really VR is

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:14.279
his wheelhouse not mine but I do want to talk about this a little bit to have a

00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:18.559
good experience in VR you not only have to run it a high resolution because it's

00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:26.679
the whole it's the whole retina concept all over again it's like why is why is

00:29:24.159 --> 00:29:33.320
1080p just fine and I can't see any of the pixels from like 10 ft away and you

00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:35.720
know why do I need uh you know okay

00:29:33.320 --> 00:29:39.480
that's a bad example um cuz it's closer to your face whatever the point is yeah

00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.880
the closer it is the more pixels you need so you can't see so if it's right

00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:49.480
here you need a ton of pixels they need to be really tiny also the uh in

00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:54.799
resolution of your eyes increases as it gets closer to the center right so you

00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:58.480
need to maybe what what do they have like eye tracking to put extra pixels

00:29:56.919 --> 00:30:02.000
where your eyes are looking do they do that I think they do Luke was talking

00:30:00.919 --> 00:30:10.600
about this I don't remember what are you looking at uh and balls apparently

00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:13.159
what that's uh Nick Nick Van burkel okay

00:30:10.600 --> 00:30:16.640
are we yeah get get out we should never have put that window in I know right all

00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:20.679
right Nick it was like you feel that book and that's a full page spread full

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:24.640
page page spread you haven't seen that before yeah that get out of here right

00:30:22.399 --> 00:30:29.840
get out of here um okay so another factor is that we always talk about

00:30:27.360 --> 00:30:34.480
average f PS okay like that's what everyone loves to talk about I got 80

00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:42.919
FPS average in Crisis 3 or whatever game it is MHM average FPS is almost

00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:45.519
meaningless in VR because on a screen

00:30:42.919 --> 00:30:50.080
when you get that chug or that stutter it's annoying it's not so jarring yeah

00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:53.840
on a head-mounted display as you're moving around like this that's super

00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:58.159
weird that jutter will make you feel motion sick oh for sure so what's going

00:30:55.840 --> 00:31:02.600
to become more important is the minimum um frame rate yeah so you're going to

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:06.279
have to you're going to have to reach a high frame rate which is also important

00:31:04.399 --> 00:31:09.559
for smooth motion again so you don't get motion sickness you're going to have to

00:31:08.120 --> 00:31:14.600
maintain that frame rate all the time and it's going to have to be at a high resolution so AMD is basically coming

00:31:13.159 --> 00:31:19.200
out and saying their new Polaris architecture gpus will be faster and

00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:24.799
more affordable thanks to their upgraded architecture making VR uh easily more

00:31:22.320 --> 00:31:29.639
easily attainable for everyone which pretty much goes without saying and is

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:34.480
about like saying that NVIDIA's new graphics cards will be faster and more

00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:40.080
affordable for equivalent performance and Intel's new CPUs will be faster and

00:31:37.639 --> 00:31:46.120
more affordable except the same thing slightly faster slightly smaller except

00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:48.919
welcome to CES Asos sometimes bigger if

00:31:46.120 --> 00:31:52.440
we're talking TVs faster and bigger not faster and smaller smart guy depends on

00:31:50.600 --> 00:31:55.000
what it is yeah sometimes bigger is better sometimes smaller is better

00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:59.960
sometimes we can't decide I mean remember when phones wanted to be smaller and then bigger and then along

00:31:58.399 --> 00:32:05.760
and then bigger again and then the thing that's not the iPad came along the NFL

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:12.000
whatever not not oh the surface yeah the surface um okay unless your Intel and

00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:17.559
this was posted on the Forum by a person I just said I

00:32:13.320 --> 00:32:25.399
think Intel chips will have to sacrifice

00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:27.960
speed gains for Energy savings m d d

00:32:25.399 --> 00:32:31.639
d but I don't I don't get it how's that different from just going back a

00:32:29.399 --> 00:32:36.559
generation right uh well back a generation we didn't have as good power

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:40.639
efficiency or power consumption in general you mean from the power supply

00:32:38.840 --> 00:32:44.480
or in the chip itself the chip itself how much power it requires from the

00:32:42.360 --> 00:32:50.519
power supply so uh William Holt executive VP and GM

00:32:48.159 --> 00:32:56.399
of Technology and Manufacturing Group which is basically like big deal at

00:32:53.840 --> 00:33:01.399
Intel I mean what do they do other than Technology and Manufacturing

00:32:58.399 --> 00:33:04.279
okay says that new techologies in chip

00:33:01.399 --> 00:33:11.039
manufacturing will favor better energy consumption over faster execution times

00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:13.600
and is calling it an end to Moore's Law

00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:17.279
so um he discussed some new technologies at the international solid state

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:21.840
circuits conference in San Fran such as tunneling transistors and spintronics

00:33:19.919 --> 00:33:27.760
and says look we're going to see major Transitions and the best pure technology

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:33.080
improvements we can make will bring improvements in power consumption but

00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:34.399
will reduce speed so spintronics is

00:33:33.080 --> 00:33:39.159
expected to begin to appear in commercial Technologies such as Graphics

00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:43.559
chips within 18 months but Intel has not yet committed to tunneling transistors

00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:48.799
or spintronics or really much of anything they're just saying hey look

00:33:45.639 --> 00:33:51.320
guys be ready for your smartphone or

00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:56.919
your tablet or your you know thin and light gaming PC to be more efficient uh

00:33:55.320 --> 00:34:02.840
and consume less power and have longer battery life but don't expect it to

00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:04.480
actually be faster very very interesting

00:34:02.840 --> 00:34:09.839
so we've been going through a long period of time now where we've been

00:34:06.919 --> 00:34:15.960
getting I mean it used to be oh man it used to be so awesome like within a

00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:20.520
single architecture we would get multiple speed bumps that would give us

00:34:18.200 --> 00:34:23.960
like 10 to 20% performance improvements it was freaking sick and when we got a

00:34:22.520 --> 00:34:29.480
generational Improvement when we got a new architecture it was like it was like

00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:34.879
bananas it was it it was the bomb like the the article on the release of the

00:34:31.560 --> 00:34:37.760
Core 2 Duo on Anon Tech probably has

00:34:34.879 --> 00:34:43.159
like millions and millions of views whereas like I mean we didn't even do a

00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:47.560
review of one CPU release from Intel until like 3 weeks later and literally

00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:51.679
four people complained like it's gotten to the point where we get these tiny

00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:55.879
performance improvements but what we do get is better power consumption which on

00:34:53.280 --> 00:35:00.280
the desktop most people and some people do but most

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:04.520
people are less concerned about and what they would really prefer to have is more

00:35:01.839 --> 00:35:08.760
performance and it looks like that trend is going to not only continue where we

00:35:07.240 --> 00:35:14.040
don't really get huge performance games anymore but it could actually get worse

00:35:11.720 --> 00:35:18.520
where it's like the new chip that comes out is going to save me money on the

00:35:16.359 --> 00:35:22.599
power bill here in the building but is not going to make your video render any

00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:27.280
faster how much power does a CPU really use um like is it worth that minuscule

00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:30.760
amount I mean compared to putting the lights on and heaters and which is a

00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:36.880
great question at home at home I would say

00:35:34.359 --> 00:35:41.680
especially here in BC where our power comes from falling water and we have

00:35:38.680 --> 00:35:46.640
plenty of that which is basically free

00:35:41.680 --> 00:35:49.079
um no it's no big deal however in places

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:55.680
where the power is coming from coal burning coal or um you know other fossil

00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:58.119
fuels um then yes if you can change if

00:35:55.680 --> 00:36:04.920
you can like let's say let's say as CPU consumes only 65 Watts okay uh if you

00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:07.720
can cut that down by 10 or 20 or or or

00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:12.760
25% then we're talking yeah that for the same or slightly less performance then

00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:19.880
we're talking maybe 12 to you know 15 watts per CPU in your home does that

00:36:15.640 --> 00:36:22.520
matter no no however for a massive data

00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:27.839
center many homes let's say every home in an entire country had a computer that

00:36:25.359 --> 00:36:31.280
was 15% more efficient you're going to save a lot more energy with just

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:34.319
different lights and more efficient Heating and insulation which isn't to

00:36:33.200 --> 00:36:38.720
say that you can't do all of those things it's just to say that it is a

00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:41.880
factor and if you're running a data center which you just brought up that's

00:36:40.319 --> 00:36:45.880
the huge savings right there where you're running literally 100,000 CPUs

00:36:44.040 --> 00:36:51.280
under Under One Roof but I'm thinking like cost spense to energy saves like

00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:55.160
buying yourself a brand spanking new CPU from Intel to save something on your

00:36:53.200 --> 00:37:00.079
power bill is never going to be worth it for most people it's going to be a lot

00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:03.599
more worth it to get LED lights more

00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:05.160
insulation um stuff like that that is a

00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:09.640
very interesting that is a very interesting potential topic for a video

00:37:07.319 --> 00:37:15.319
right there oh where we cuz I actually did this a long time ago um back when 80

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:20.800
plus gold efficiency rated power supplies first started popping up and I

00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:23.920
kind of went oh okay so let's look at

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:27.000
this two different ways yeah how long do

00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.040
you have to run this computer to to

00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:31.720
justify buying a new power supply outright right

00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:36.280
and how long do you have to run this computer to justify the more expensive

00:37:34.200 --> 00:37:41.760
power supply versus buying a cheaper one if you were going to have to buy a power

00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:44.119
supply anyway and in BC it was like

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:47.400
until the end of time right like the end of you know that that place in Chrono

00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:51.040
Trigger where the old man is standing on the little island like that's how long

00:37:48.839 --> 00:37:55.079
you'd have to wait um but in places like California where power is much more

00:37:53.040 --> 00:37:58.040
expensive because I think they're buying a lot of it from us um or at least they

00:37:57.040 --> 00:38:03.079
used to be um actually it didn't take that long it

00:38:00.200 --> 00:38:08.800
took like 3 or four years mhm so I would be interested to know how many

00:38:05.560 --> 00:38:12.560
generations back you have to go for a

00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:14.520
full system upgrade to pay for itself in

00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:19.560
a reasonable span of time like within the lifespan of the system like years

00:38:16.720 --> 00:38:24.319
prob like ever like the further back you go the more reasonable it is to upgrade

00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:28.960
yes right but I mean the stuff we saw at free geek was nuts like those power

00:38:26.160 --> 00:38:33.960
supplies those two Mass it was amazing 350 power suppes were two

00:38:32.520 --> 00:38:38.319
of them and it's like oh we have this tiny one that do the same thing for we

00:38:35.520 --> 00:38:42.760
cheaper now and that's amazing um but where's The Sweet Spot yeah but but yeah

00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:46.880
and like like you could also factor in improving the installation in your home

00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:50.760
and changing the Windows to like triple paint or whatever um although really

00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:57.960
what you you should have is like smaller Windows if you want to save on energy

00:38:53.720 --> 00:38:59.800
bills um factor that all in as well I

00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:04.680
don't know if if if it would be so easy to uh test that yeah we wouldn't be able

00:39:02.560 --> 00:39:10.000
to we we wouldn't be able to look at all of those things I mean like I mean seal

00:39:07.359 --> 00:39:15.839
up the cracks in your doors you know y stop the heat from escaping you know

00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:17.560
just just go go nutso on it yeah very

00:39:15.839 --> 00:39:21.000
interesting people are saying this is basic physics to be honest the same

00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:25.000
amount of power will be used to boil water something something I'm sure that

00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.400
is in response to someone else in twitch chat now that I read a little bit more

00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:34.680
of it I don't think that really has anything to do with what we're talking about what I found interesting um when I

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:37.400
was learning about uh Bitcoin mining and

00:39:34.680 --> 00:39:41.520
like C cryptocoin Mining and whatever is that the energy you use to power the

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:45.200
gpus being released as heat is like the same as just having an electric heater

00:39:43.560 --> 00:39:49.400
right because it's thermodynamics so either you can use that uh energy to

00:39:48.040 --> 00:39:53.359
heat up your room or you can use it to heat up your room and get Bitcoins which

00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:58.160
is kind of cool although of course the equipment is very expensive and also

00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:01.680
it's not worth it anymore so did you get a Bitcoin back in the day I

00:40:00.040 --> 00:40:06.200
didn't get any Bitcoins you never you never you never mind one not Bitcoin no

00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:12.839
not one not any yeah rock on all right our next

00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:18.040
topic here is posted by Top Dollar on the Forum and the original article here

00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.319
is from Computer World the Navy calls on

00:40:18.040 --> 00:40:27.720
researchers to create firefighting humanoid robots that's

00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:29.319
awesome that would be freaking awesome

00:40:27.720 --> 00:40:33.800
something straight at of SciFi I mean this is one of those things where I

00:40:30.839 --> 00:40:38.839
don't see this within a within a reasonable amount of time taking over

00:40:36.640 --> 00:40:42.079
the role of the fire department and the people who work at the fire department I

00:40:40.319 --> 00:40:47.440
don't see this as a threat to the firefighters jobs for heaven sakes no I

00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:49.760
see this as a significant Improvement in

00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.920
the safety oh yeah of firefighters in the in the much more immediate future

00:40:51.359 --> 00:40:57.800
building's on fire it is in danger of collapse at any moment yeah I mean being

00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:01.520
able to being able to Pilot just a firefighter drone walking around

00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:05.640
in there would be awesome and I mean if they can build robotic arms that are

00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:10.040
delicate enough for a surgeon to perform a surgery remotely then I don't think

00:41:08.359 --> 00:41:14.119
it's unreasonable to expect to be able to build a firefighting robot that can

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:17.359
run in and grab someone and pull them out of a building now there are going to

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:21.960
be some challenges of course you're going to have to make it lightweight enough that it doesn't cause the

00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:27.720
freaking building to collapse just by setting foot in it um now now ridddle me

00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:31.119
this why humanoid because I think I have the answer but I want to know if they

00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:35.680
say it in the article why they want it to be humanoid the context of this is

00:41:33.560 --> 00:41:41.160
need to be or does it the context of this is the Navy so they want these to

00:41:38.359 --> 00:41:44.280
fight onboard fires so I would imagine getting around on a ship is going to

00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.359
require some pretty humanoid like characteristics because it's built for

00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:50.760
humans already that's right that's why you build a robot humanoid and I mean

00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:55.839
ships are expected to be in service for decades it's not like you know you

00:41:53.240 --> 00:41:59.520
develop this technology today and in the future maybe you don't need a human one

00:41:57.560 --> 00:42:03.440
maybe there's a rail that's designed throughout the ship that any that a

00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.480
firefighting unit can fly around on or whatever but then you got to install

00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:10.079
that everywhere and if it doesn't exist then yeah if you have a humanoid robot

00:42:08.319 --> 00:42:14.119
it will go and do everything that and you can retrofit can do yeah you can

00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:18.400
retrofit stuff with that so uh the US military's Office of Naval Research is

00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:22.440
giving out a grant of $600,000 to a Worchester Polytechnic Institute

00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:27.240
Professor to develop motion planning algorithms for firefighting humanoid

00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:29.319
robots so the robot must be agile and

00:42:27.240 --> 00:42:33.760
and able to move in tight spaces on a ship or a submarine

00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:38.839
yeah I I love this stuff very interesting very cool very very

00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:44.160
cool yeah this is the kind of thing where like you hear about it and then

00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:45.559
you'd hear nothing for like 10 20 years

00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:50.359
and then later they have a breakthrough it's like oh yeah I remember that hey

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:54.079
that I mean stuff like that has already happened on WAN Show Luke and I have

00:42:52.160 --> 00:42:58.880
been doing wow for like two years now I think and we like we've had well no it's

00:42:56.839 --> 00:43:02.599
a very small amount of time but we've already had stuff where we like talked

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:07.000
about it and then it turned into a real thing yeah which is which is which is

00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:12.760
pretty cool pretty cool speaking of things that are pretty cool I wish um I

00:43:11.359 --> 00:43:15.960
don't remember who originally posted this on the Forum unfortunately but it

00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:20.400
was definitely there and this actually happened last week I think not this week

00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:26.760
February 3rd yeah uh Microsoft acquires swift key is that bad that sucks why

00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:29.520
does that suck because I love swift key what are they going to do to it to ruin

00:43:28.040 --> 00:43:33.880
it nothing well that's exactly it they're

00:43:31.720 --> 00:43:37.760
not going to upgrade it so Microsoft has entered a definitive agreement to

00:43:35.640 --> 00:43:42.119
acquire swift key whose highly rated highly engaging Swift Key software

00:43:40.040 --> 00:43:47.599
keyboard and SDK Powers more than 300 million Android and iOS devices let's

00:43:45.640 --> 00:43:54.760
just have every company merge into one giant company that'll be great L the buy

00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:57.359
and large buy and large super store so

00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:01.280
um the swift key blah blah blah Swift Keys Tech aligns with our vision for

00:43:59.240 --> 00:44:05.119
more personal Computing experiences that anticipate our needs versus responding

00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:09.400
to our Command says Harry sham executive VP of tech and research they're looking

00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:14.200
to also integrate swift key Tech into wordflow technology for Windows and

00:44:12.200 --> 00:44:19.119
they're moving some of swift key staff to blah blah blah positions here and

00:44:16.720 --> 00:44:23.480
there which basically means swift key which was awesome and so many people are

00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:27.119
like lus why do you like swift key so much the stock keyboard has flow typing

00:44:25.640 --> 00:44:32.480
I don't care about flow typing flow typing is crap swift key predictive text

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:38.359
is excellent and this is a a mini cupcake which is also excellent thank

00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:41.920
you uh thank you very very much both of

00:44:38.359 --> 00:44:43.880
you what's the story here this

00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:47.839
wonderful testing out mini cupcakes for a wedding testing out oh then I have to

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:53.240
take one yeah go for it ah so we're guinea pigs now thanks Steph appreciate

00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:58.079
that sorry you don't mind if I say your name right okay I didn't know if it I

00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:02.920
didn't know if it was private or anything yeah so so Colton's fiance is

00:45:01.160 --> 00:45:06.599
apparently poisoning his boss and colleague now that's fine as long as

00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:11.720
it's delicious I thought we I thought we were friends yeah we're tight it's

00:45:09.680 --> 00:45:16.599
supposed to be a gift of love ah gift of love like like we want to be together

00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:22.000
forever I want to preserve you this way for all time it's it's chalk full of uh

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:27.520
I can never think of words when I need them um what's the preservative that

00:45:24.200 --> 00:45:29.760
they use for dead bodies oh wow from

00:45:27.520 --> 00:45:32.880
alhy Jo fulla from alide don't ask how I know

00:45:30.520 --> 00:45:36.119
that he preserved forever right I don't actually think that it is from alahh

00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:40.599
when they embal people I think embalming fluid is a different thing felhide is

00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.280
for dead bodies technically though if you want to preserve them like in a jar

00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:50.040
well that's very different though all right you win okay so I'm not an icing

00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:55.040
guy yeah me you I I really don't like icing I always when I have cake the

00:45:53.079 --> 00:46:00.680
icing gets slopped off to one side and I eat the cake part but what I will say

00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:05.680
is that the peanut butter cupcake is excellent yeah I am I am down for the

00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:09.319
peanut butter cupcake but if you were making it for me personally which I

00:46:07.240 --> 00:46:14.119
don't expect it's like there'll be everyone else's and then there's Linus's

00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:17.880
one cupcake for just lonus it's like one of frosting then it would it would be

00:46:15.839 --> 00:46:21.640
like it would almost have to have more like like a

00:46:19.160 --> 00:46:27.079
chocolate or something like that cuz that's part of the peanut butter cup

00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:29.400
experience is yeah a little

00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:34.319
much but you should talk to Ivonne because she's an icing person she's into

00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:39.079
icing whereas like for me if it's not like a super light cream cheese icing

00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:43.079
then you might as well just leave yeah

00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:44.640
tuxedo what's a tuxedo huh oh this it

00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:50.240
it's it's good it's fine tastes like a cupcake you know I mean you know it's

00:46:47.680 --> 00:46:54.000
it's great I try to give you know specific feedback I mean I mean it's I I

00:46:52.640 --> 00:46:59.200
don't know what it's not yeah I mean it's fantastic

00:46:57.160 --> 00:47:04.520
yeah yeah that is wow I've never actually had a peanut butter

00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:10.720
cupcake I'm down for that so sorry I'm super

00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:14.280
bummed swift key about swift key especially

00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:19.599
because swift key on Android is already pretty much perfect

00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:27.480
um they fixed most of my minor complaints swift key Cloud means that

00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:29.520
when I type in like GeForce GTX 980t I

00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:35.880
the t is Big the I is small like it's amazing it gets everything right um but

00:47:32.359 --> 00:47:38.079
on iOS it sucks and I was really hoping

00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:42.520
that over time twift key would continue to fix it and I just don't really have

00:47:40.839 --> 00:47:45.680
much hope for that anymore how hard is this though I mean it's a keyboard right

00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:51.880
it it predicts what you're going to write do you use it yes I use

00:47:49.160 --> 00:47:55.599
something can I see your phone it's not installed on this one I haven't switched

00:47:53.359 --> 00:48:00.200
yet it's on the other phone okay well it's pretty it's it's it's it's more

00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:04.160
complic if it wasn't complicated Microsoft wouldn't have bought them for

00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:10.839
however many millions of dollars I don't think we know um but yeah it's it's it's

00:48:07.640 --> 00:48:14.280
predictive technology it's really cool

00:48:10.839 --> 00:48:15.480
um yeah I'm oh I'm just I'm just sad I

00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:19.720
don't really have anything else to say about that other than that I'm sad mhm I

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00:52:19.839 --> 00:52:31.040
server for doing the HTML CSS I I I worked with Luke through

00:52:28.319 --> 00:52:37.079
the processes of even even stuff as simple as when we had the server at like

00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:41.400
NC and we needed port forwarding done and blah blah blah blah blah all that

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:47.000
stuff I mean when when there would be like something like a Dos attack or

00:52:43.040 --> 00:52:49.119
whatever else like it was awful it is so

00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:53.200
it is so hard even to do the simplest thing is pretty awful like and and it's

00:52:51.559 --> 00:53:00.079
only gotten more complex you used to be able to get away with an HTML web page

00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:02.200
nope not anymore um even like you'll get

00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:06.319
hacked even like the stuff just showing up on my website it's got like like like

00:53:04.680 --> 00:53:11.720
little like people oh you're like teran's animations and songs website oh

00:53:08.680 --> 00:53:14.880
wow like uh cuz I used WordPress for it

00:53:11.720 --> 00:53:16.680
it's down now I got to renew but um like

00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:21.920
you'll you know to have someone else take care of that crap for you you got

00:53:18.240 --> 00:53:24.079
to S is complex cuz it's actually easy

00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:28.359
like the Linus Medi group.com website has never gone down yeah that's great as

00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:32.240
much as we make updates to it or don't make updates so many ways that you this

00:53:30.359 --> 00:53:35.160
can go wrong and it's really really easy to make small updates add modules and

00:53:34.040 --> 00:53:39.960
all that kind of stuff so they've got 24/7 tech support via live chat and

00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:43.079
email um all their templates beautiful templates feature responsive design so

00:53:41.640 --> 00:53:46.880
they look great on a phone or on a larger screen and they've got Commerce

00:53:45.040 --> 00:53:52.200
modules so with any of their templates you can sell things through your website

00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:56.480
you can start a trial today for 2 weeks with no credit card required and if you

00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:00.799
use offer code Linus you can save 10% on your Squarespace site

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Squarespace build it beautiful thank you my Luke

00:54:03.680 --> 00:54:10.079
standin build it oh man some of the best

00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:12.520
uh like memes in the in the LT meme

00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:16.920
thread on the Forum are just like screen grabs of Luke build it beautiful yeah

00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:22.040
that's funny um this is cool so this was posted

00:54:20.200 --> 00:54:27.280
by doc Swag On The Forum original article here is from PC World and here's

00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:31.680
what I want to understand is why on Earth hasn't this been a thing forever

00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:35.839
when you buy a license of a game why can't you just play it on any device you

00:54:33.359 --> 00:54:40.640
want like I feel much the same way about DVDs and Blu-ray discs that I buy if I

00:54:38.720 --> 00:54:45.000
feel like viewing these on my phone which by the way doesn't have a DVD

00:54:42.520 --> 00:54:49.640
drive the last time I checked no it I would hope then I don't care about using

00:54:47.160 --> 00:54:53.079
your stupid service of which there are however stupid many of them and are

00:54:51.359 --> 00:54:57.200
licensed for however many stupid devices cuz quite frankly I switch phones more

00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:02.760
frequently than most people and that is extraordinarily inconvenient for me with

00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:04.640
service like DRM type services like that

00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:08.400
um Google play music by the way is awesome if you run out of devices and

00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:13.480
you run out of times you can run out of devices you just call them up they fixed

00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:20.440
it in like 45 seconds and offered me a Google Play credit for my trouble I was

00:55:15.040 --> 00:55:21.960
like that's incredible um anyway so I

00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:25.640
I've never really understood why when you buy a license to a game you don't

00:55:23.640 --> 00:55:29.400
just own the license to a game CU it's not like it really

00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:35.079
money I do know why but anyway if they can get you to buy a a movie on your

00:55:31.520 --> 00:55:39.079
phone and your computer and a DVD why

00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:41.559
wouldn't they and same for games so

00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:45.599
Gamers who pre-order the Xbox One's Quantum break which by the way I'm not

00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:53.240
recommending to do uh will receive a free digital copy for Windows 10 PC mhm

00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:55.960
very cool now I don't personally agree

00:55:53.240 --> 00:56:01.720
that that's a free digital copy I think it is is a paid for digital copy because

00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:05.240
you paid for it yeah but maybe more people will start doing this it'll

00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:10.079
become the norm the game will manage save games crossplatform which is sick

00:56:09.240 --> 00:56:15.799
that's awesome and that's extra functionality

00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:22.119
right there and Microsoft's Chief plans to make the crossby a platform feature

00:56:18.880 --> 00:56:24.200
of the Xbox one which in my mind should

00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:27.480
have been what they did out of the gate to differentiate the Xbox and I know

00:56:26.319 --> 00:56:36.880
licensing agreements with the game developers are complicated and all this stuff and I get that but I don't I I I I

00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:42.640
don't understand why this wasn't more obvious what a cool and awesome and

00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:45.240
consumer friendly thing to do MH um so

00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:51.079
yeah it's a baby step it's definitely baby step we're talking one game but you

00:56:49.160 --> 00:56:57.319
know crossplatform play crossplatform save games crossplatform in-game

00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:59.520
settings the ability to actually choose

00:56:57.319 --> 00:57:06.319
how I want to experience something very very cool very cool love it I mean this

00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:08.680
is a way to use the cloud in a way that

00:57:06.319 --> 00:57:13.160
is not obnoxious you know and you look at something like GeForce now okay

00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:16.200
NVIDIA's cloud gaming service where you are gaming off the cloud and you have to

00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:20.319
have like a ball and internet connection and it's like well you know what it's

00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:23.480
actually easier for me to just pack my Xbox with me to go to a friend's house

00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:28.280
there's a reason the cloud to butt extension exists because usually we hear

00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:32.480
about the cloud in some stupid way whereas this if it's just like oh I go

00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:36.319
over to my buddies and we can use my cloud save of you know I'm I'm obviously

00:57:34.720 --> 00:57:41.200
putting the cart before the horse here but uh you know my cloud save of you

00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:44.039
know Mario Kart and we can unlock all the characters without me actually

00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:49.039
having to physically bring my console or my games right cool cool yay Cloud

00:57:47.319 --> 00:57:53.240
features in a way that is not you know terrible or if like you can go over to

00:57:51.319 --> 00:57:55.960
your friend you know back to an Xbox example if you can be like yeah hey you

00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:59.079
want to play this game together that I just Scott you go over there you don't

00:57:57.640 --> 00:58:04.280
actually have to bring your your disc you don't have to bring your console you can just sit down at his console you

00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:06.400
sign into your Xbox account or log on to

00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:10.359
you know your Live account on his Windows 10 PC or whatever or hers and

00:58:09.240 --> 00:58:19.680
you can just play it and you can experience it together that is so cool and that is the way that it should be I

00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:22.520
am all for personal licenses for things

00:58:19.680 --> 00:58:29.720
um and I am even willing to accept a subscription model for that experience

00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:31.319
where if I go sit for if I go well not

00:58:29.720 --> 00:58:36.880
but for a lot of things if I sit down in front of a computer I want to have the

00:58:34.160 --> 00:58:42.319
full Microsoft Office experience I am an Office 365 subscriber and I love it and

00:58:40.319 --> 00:58:46.359
same for something like Creative Cloud to be able to just be like okay on any

00:58:44.160 --> 00:58:49.599
computer I don't have to have a CD key I don't have to have a disc I don't have

00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:55.000
there's some advantages to Creative Cloud but boy do I have opinions about

00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:57.680
it I know it's not perfect Taran but

00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:03.200
this is probably worth mention Adobe has committed to send out not one but two

00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:07.200
technicians to our site to come investigate um this month to come

00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:10.640
investigate how we're using the products and some of the challenges that we have

00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:16.000
and help us improve our workflow which for the first time ever as an Adobe

00:59:13.200 --> 00:59:20.720
customer I really feel valued and like the $600 a month or whatever it is I

00:59:18.319 --> 00:59:26.280
give them is actually going somewhere other than a black hole pit of money at

00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:31.119
the Adobe headquarters it was my complainy videos about Premiere that

00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:34.960
ended up setting this up I never expected that anything would come from

00:59:32.640 --> 00:59:38.039
those I I just I make these videos where I complain about the features Premiere

00:59:36.359 --> 00:59:44.680
doesn't have yeah and like are actually quite rude about it yeah they

00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:46.960
are um like super snarky can we talk

00:59:44.680 --> 00:59:50.760
about um gravitational waves next because this is amazing uh sure do you

00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:56.400
want to hang out to me the article so I already did wow you are like a somewhat

00:59:54.359 --> 01:00:01.079
competent person it's not the article it's a Reddit Mega thread which I don't

00:59:58.200 --> 01:00:06.400
know probably is a very excellent thing to uh get to so

01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:10.200
anyway gravitational waves I don't know much about these but it's kind well I'm

01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:16.319
glad you're informing the rest of us then it's kind of um as amazing as

01:00:13.520 --> 01:00:20.240
discovering like uh electromagnetic waves almost sort of like we don't

01:00:18.640 --> 01:00:24.280
really know exactly what we'll be able to do with them uh I just I usually I

01:00:22.680 --> 01:00:29.319
know a lot more details cuz this stuff really interests me but basically

01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:33.760
um it's an enormous Discovery um this was been theorized by uh what is it

01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:39.559
special or general relativity I think general relativity for like since

01:00:35.799 --> 01:00:42.319
Einstein and we just now um determined

01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:46.440
that it is in fact a thing so the direct detection of them the direct detection

01:00:44.520 --> 01:00:50.960
has happened cuz in 1993 they had already indirectly detected them yes

01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:54.480
they and and a Nobel Prize or whatever in physics was awarded for that and now

01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:58.200
someone's going to get a prize for this but check this out what it was it was so

01:00:56.079 --> 01:01:02.119
cool it's so cool how they found these is they got like this thing that shot a

01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:07.760
laser that got split in two and then bounced back and the tiny tiny

01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:12.280
differences in the interference between those two lasers was used to detect if

01:01:10.520 --> 01:01:17.480
waves of gravity gravitational waves were happening because all of SpaceTime

01:01:15.200 --> 01:01:22.400
gets kind of warped so they'll bounce back at different rates and it's like

01:01:19.799 --> 01:01:27.000
just minuscule amount and what it was that was detected was two super massive

01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:32.119
black holes spinning together and colliding which apparently output 50

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:39.079
times this is amazing 50 times the energy of the entire universe during

01:01:35.160 --> 01:01:41.520
that event like and then and then we get

01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:46.839
this tiny blip back here on Earth like 1 billion years later isn't that amazing

01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:50.880
don't quote me on the 50 times thing I I saw that some physicist might have said

01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:55.240
that but it's kind of here say right now so you can check out the mega thread

01:01:53.520 --> 01:02:00.279
yeah very much a developing uh developing at but but basically I mean

01:01:58.160 --> 01:02:03.520
like it's as exciting as discovering the electron cuz we don't really know what

01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:09.240
it's going to be useful for power not energy appar until okay until like

01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:13.960
future advancements but like physicists are extremely excited about this it's

01:02:12.279 --> 01:02:17.079
amazing yeah people are saying power not energy and it can't be more than the

01:02:15.520 --> 01:02:21.000
entire universe might have been a Galaxy or something anyway the point is a lot I

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:24.920
I'll look for The Source on that one yeah but it was people are like can

01:02:23.160 --> 01:02:32.039
I power my computer with them no you cannot welcome to twitch chat

01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:34.400
yeah um all right what else we got here

01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:41.720
oh this is great uh Ubisoft developer concedes that the division um PC version

01:02:39.279 --> 01:02:46.760
was held back by the consoles so we're back to more more digging by Ubisoft

01:02:44.359 --> 01:02:52.319
original article here was from kit Guru and this was posted on the Forum by

01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:53.960
roohi Kumar s so an unnamed developer

01:02:52.319 --> 01:02:57.960
stated that they had to keep the PC version of the division in check with

01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:03.359
consoles because it would kind of be unfair to push it so far away from them

01:03:00.799 --> 01:03:05.760
Ubisoft sent PC games and a statement saying it has come to our attention that

01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:10.039
a comment from one of our team members has been perceived by some te some

01:03:08.319 --> 01:03:13.599
members of the community to imply the PC version of the division was held back

01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:16.599
and it is simply not true from the beginning the PC version of the division

01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:22.160
was developed from the ground up and we're confident players will enjoy the game and the features that this version

01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:25.400
has to offer and the feedback from PC players who participated in the recent

01:03:23.720 --> 01:03:29.440
closed beta supports this now to be clear

01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:35.520
I am not piling on the Ubisoft hate train on this one because I will be the

01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:37.119
first to hate on up crappy port a port

01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:41.119
that doesn't have graphical Fidelity sliders because they just couldn't be

01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:46.319
ared a port that says press a to continue when I do not have a game pad

01:03:44.839 --> 01:03:51.240
attached and when I press a on my keyboard it doesn't do a bloody thing

01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:56.000
that's what I object to whereas if they developed the game from the ground up on

01:03:53.920 --> 01:04:03.760
PC and it's well optimized and runs as well I'm not going to crucify them for

01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:06.799
that if the game has to exist within the

01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:08.559
same mortal realm as the PlayStation 4

01:04:06.799 --> 01:04:13.480
and the Xbox One like if they can't just make a completely different game for the

01:04:10.640 --> 01:04:17.920
PC and the Xbox one I understand that too you can't you can't be like oh well

01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:21.760
we've got this great idea for a gameplay mechanic that would have the you know

01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:25.480
player character blah blah this too many polygons something something like that

01:04:23.640 --> 01:04:31.359
it's just not technically feasible on all the platforms that the game has to

01:04:27.359 --> 01:04:33.200
be released on then in that way a game

01:04:31.359 --> 01:04:40.000
like the the the the paradig the gameplay paradigms might be held back by

01:04:36.319 --> 01:04:42.480
the consoles but that's not the same as

01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:46.480
nerfing the game because they didn't want to create too much disparity in the

01:04:44.279 --> 01:04:50.240
marketing materials between what the PC version and the console version looked

01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:55.720
like like what we saw with Watch Dogs mhm was watch doog significantly better

01:04:52.520 --> 01:04:58.119
on PC um no it was it was it was nerfed

01:04:55.720 --> 01:05:02.960
significantly from the original like uh E3 trailers that were showing off oh

01:05:00.160 --> 01:05:07.240
yeah that sucks so I don't feel like this is the same thing but it could be

01:05:05.200 --> 01:05:11.279
proven that I am totally wrong and I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for

01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:14.400
nothing I just I I believe they learned their

01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:19.400
lesson um and I I don't think they were stupid enough to do that again then

01:05:17.359 --> 01:05:25.200
again they are Ubisoft and they they they do they do dig um all right I've

01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:28.480
got one more or two more rapid fire topics here uh this was posted by doc

01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:33.160
Swag On The Forum original article here is from PC World let's go ahead and pop

01:05:30.200 --> 01:05:37.720
that up um coming soon to a consumer laptop near you smoother video with

01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:41.119
AMD's free sync so that's pretty cool I mean that was bound to happen eventually

01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:46.200
I mean the original demos of free sync were actually done on laptops because

01:05:44.319 --> 01:05:49.920
they're not inherently that different from like some laptops the way that the

01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:58.559
display and the GPU interface is not inherently that different from the way free sync works at all um oh AMD D Scott

01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:04.039
Watson good old Scott this was posted by doc Swag On The Forum apparently tweeted

01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:07.079
an image of what looks like a fury X2 or

01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:10.559
two Fiji gpus or something like that so

01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:13.720
Fury X2 is being teased wow it's coming

01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:16.000
really close to Polaris maybe Polaris

01:06:13.720 --> 01:06:24.400
isn't going to be as fast as I had hoped cuz if two fijes even makes any

01:06:20.200 --> 01:06:26.799
sense um H I have no opinions on this

01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:33.720
topic that's fine uh oh actually oh crap oh there

01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:35.599
were oh man Opera got bought for 1.2

01:06:33.720 --> 01:06:40.279
billion by a Chinese Consortium um so that's sort of a bummer

01:06:38.119 --> 01:06:43.480
if you if you cared about the Opera browser which I personally didn't but

01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:48.559
I'm sure some people do what is Nick doing uh selfie sticks are actually banned in this office yeah also Disney

01:06:46.799 --> 01:06:54.440
World so yeah I'm going to take a selfie with you

01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:56.359
guys on the W show what are you why can

01:06:54.440 --> 01:07:01.039
can they see I felt like I wasn't interrupting anyone's day oh yeah we

01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:09.760
like with the giant penis in the window thank you for that by the way um

01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:10.880
by so 1.2 billion uh wow actually yeah

01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:17.480
there's dang it there's a bunch of really good stuff okay there is one more that I did want to discuss though so

01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:19.200
this was originally posted by syntax vgm

01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:24.039
on the Forum the original article is actually from

01:07:20.720 --> 01:07:27.880
wired and is about how wired is going to

01:07:24.039 --> 01:07:29.880
handle ad blocking M so wired is going

01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:36.400
to start um offering a subscription based

01:07:33.279 --> 01:07:39.799
service for people who want to browse

01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:44.119
the site without ads and they are going

01:07:39.799 --> 01:07:46.599
to block access to their content from

01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:54.440
people who are using an ad blocker now there is no uh there is no like hard and

01:07:51.599 --> 01:08:01.319
fast tried and true for sure we can do this way to block ad blocking but

01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:06.760
they're going to try has this been tried before oh yeah oh yeah definitely has it

01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:08.640
succeeded before um I don't know to be

01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:11.319
perfectly honest with you cuz cuz one thing that might happen is people with

01:08:09.839 --> 01:08:16.159
ad block just won't visit them anymore and they won't pay

01:08:13.480 --> 01:08:20.920
um I don't know I mean it all I mean it's it's the whole it's the whole

01:08:18.040 --> 01:08:25.960
piracy argument again right like you know well I won't I won't I wouldn't

01:08:23.759 --> 01:08:30.120
have paid for it anyway or I would I wouldn't have looked at the ad anyway

01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:33.920
I don't remember what it is but okay so anyway couple quotes So on an average

01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:37.560
day more than 20% of the traffic to wi.com comes from a reader who is

01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:40.319
blocking our ads we know that you come to our site primarily to read our

01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:45.080
content but it's important to be clear that advertising is how we keep wired going paying the writers editors

01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:48.480
designers engineers and other staff that work so hard to create the stories that

01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:52.400
you read and watch here so there will be two easy options to access that content

01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:55.600
you can simply add.com to your ad blockers white list they're not even

01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:59.159
going as far as to say don't use ad blocker because there are a lot of

01:08:56.960 --> 01:09:02.759
compelling reasons to use an ad blocker when you do we will keep the ads as

01:09:00.799 --> 01:09:06.520
polite as we can and you will only see standard display advertising or number

01:09:04.799 --> 01:09:10.239
two you can subscribe to a brand new AdFree version of wire.com and for a

01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:15.799
dollar a week you will get complete access to our content with no display advertising or ad tracking I think a

01:09:13.400 --> 01:09:19.799
dollar a week is out to lunch I can't think of a website on Earth that I would

01:09:17.679 --> 01:09:23.199
pay a dollar a week rather than I thought it was a dollar a month I didn't

01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:28.960
even hear week cuz it was kind of okay YouTube R I would pay the $109 9 or

01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:32.560
whatever $1.99 it is for you mon that's

01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:35.120
per month okay but we're talking wired

01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:40.400
wants something like what 40% of the cost of YouTube red or 30% or something

01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:45.319
like that H and and it's one of those things where whether they like it and

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whether you like it or whether anyone likes it or not the value of

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written is just not as high it's not

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perceived to be as high as the value of

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video Even though and this is a point I've made many times there are so many

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YouTube videos that would be way better as articles yep right because it's just

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pictures and talking just let me read it because

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there can be as much or more that goes into a really well done written article

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as a video for sure and there can also be a lot more that goes into a video

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than an article which doesn't to say video is easy like we're not we're not

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we're not making push a couple buttons in the video edits itself I don't know

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about you so we've had a really dis

01:10:27.280 --> 01:10:34.760
interesting discussion on the Forum uh we've had that goes back and forth uh

01:10:32.679 --> 01:10:40.560
between people who have sort of different different sort of uh different

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opinions one way or the other so there's there's the usual like okay you know

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it's it's their right to set a price uh the price is whatever they say it is and

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if you don't like it then you don't have to visit the site um there's people

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saying that wired is shooting themselves in the foot because ultimately no one's

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going to be interested in advertising with them at all if they can't show

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massive site traffic numbers um which is

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which which they will be able to if they don't actively block people from

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accessing their site 20% to a greater degree hey 20% can be a can be a pretty

01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:19.719
darn big deal that's you know we could get 20% more traffic to our whatevers

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that'd be awesome and then you know other people are saying you know blah

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blah blah I shouldn't have to pay for it other people are saying you know uh just

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because something is posted on the internet doesn't mean it's free and people are saying well they should find

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other ways to other ways to support it other than obnoxious ads and I guess one

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of the things that I want to point out um and it was it was going to be a

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direct response to someone but I didn't remember who it was and I didn't

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unfortunately um who reads yeah someone was saying blah blah blah of course you

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have the right to control your browsing experience on your computer and modify

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web code on your computer but the content provider also has the right to

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block their ads and so you know you we sure we can have this arms race um blah

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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah yeah I really wish I

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could find I really wish I could find the uh well what what did he say damn it

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I don't remember I'm trying to find the post and I'm very sad right now very

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very sad right now it's hard to think when you have a camera on you and it's

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live the point I was going to make in response though is that if you back

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content providers into a corner where I

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mean frankly we're doing great we're we're surviving just fine but many

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written sites are not and that's where things like audio or autop playing video

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or full page ads are coming from is they are in my mind mistakenly um getting

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more and more in your face about the ads in an attempt to keep their advertising

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revenues high enough in order to survive because frankly it is an awful lot of

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work to make good content whether it's video or whether it's written and it's

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unfortunate that people don't value the written content the way that they used

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to so what I the argument that I'm making is if you refuse to subscribe and

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you refuse to view ads um one of the oh

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that's a bummer do a SoundCloud could be forced to close after $44 million losses

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is an article I just pulled up here okay I was just on the subject of companies

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not being able to finance themselves yeah and so on go on then what you might

01:13:25.280 --> 01:13:31.560
find yourself stuck with is a lot more native advertising and what Native

01:13:29.639 --> 01:13:37.360
advertising can look like is things like you know those sponsored articles um

01:13:34.440 --> 01:13:43.280
things like that um where it's not actually immediately

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obvious um you know like uh like what

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would it be like you know this plant that Dr Oz said was amazing yeah um you

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could end up with a lot of that instead

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so I don't know

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all right well is that it are we are we

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done yeah I think we're done wow that's kind of a bummer we we talk about

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SoundCloud to be forced to close after $44 million losses how do you lose $44

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million because people kept investing in the

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company um because they'll make money later right that's isn't that how all

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these websites work what is soundcloud's model I think we pay them but it isn't

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very much money we do pay them that's where all the archives go up so it might

01:14:27.400 --> 01:14:35.840
have to be moved somewhere else now sorry guys um and yeah I I I thought you

01:14:34.280 --> 01:14:44.800
would appreciate this one they apparently brought in $17 million in

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Revenue in 2014 mhm um that sounds good

01:14:44.800 --> 01:14:51.520
it's less than 44 million employee wages during that

01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:59.400
period increased 42.5% to 17.9 million Eur M meaning that

01:14:55.719 --> 01:15:01.639
the average employee was paid

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9,000 a year what does SoundCloud need that many

01:15:05.120 --> 01:15:09.840
people for you think do they have like a hundred

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people what do we need that many people for what do they have a hold on a second

01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:22.760
hold on a second what how many people work

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there I mean isn't it just like a a a music uploading site yeah

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interesting okay well there you go so thank you for tuning in to the W show

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guys we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel and maybe

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on Soundcloud but maybe not yeah sorry

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derp and yes they can still hear us right now still hear us I was just going

01:15:45.040 --> 01:15:51.719
to say hello Internet people

01:15:49.719 --> 01:15:56.840
time doubt I I conducted some scientific

01:15:54.120 --> 01:16:02.960
polls asking people like do protons Decay yes no or turnup and turnup one

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but then I was like oh I can determine real uh truths about the universe with h

01:16:05.719 --> 01:16:10.080
on a website this is how Fox News

01:16:10.719 --> 01:16:14.679
operates oh snap