all right my friends welcome to the W
show we've got a great show for you guys today and by we I mean I have a great
show for you guys today because while I will potentially have
someone sitting in this chair in fact they might rotate in and out I am
without my one my only my
flame Luke today
Luke is gone for
today to a wedding not his wedding so I
really didn't feel like it was that important compared to being here with me
for w show but he insisted on taking a
banked day for one of the days that he has already worked so what could I
really say other than you vicious bastard how dare you I'm now Luke I'm
the new Luke you're tall but you're not strong like
Luke well not yet there are armor you
can't get any closer to me but yeah we're not centered okay now we're a
little more centered in the frame so yeah I'll have be having Taran join me today and probably some other people who
actually know things about tech at some point um and then I think yeah without
further Ado I'll kick off what we've got for our topics today so Windows 10
according to an article from Forbes is apparently sending your PC's data to
Microsoft although there has been some debate as to
uh what exactly it is that's going on
there I mean look at this guy I can't even figure out how to turn a laptop on although in your defense that one is
kind of tricky to turn on uh AMD Zen based optons shown up in slides in a
debate at CERN which is pretty interesting I mean it's not like it was
so much of a stretch that AMD is probably going to have opteron products
based on their Zen architecture but there you go now there are slides to go with them AMD's Polaris graphics cards
will apparently make the minimum VR spec
more affordable for everyone this just in new graphics cards will make higher
performance and lower prices more possible wow that's really new news more
at 11 did you just increase the size of my Tex really small well you're supposed
to use your computer well I'm going to but you were just like leaning really
forward also how do I get to it on my computer well you I don't know where the
what the link is uh well oh for crying
out loud Taran we'll do this while we roll the intro okay all right I got one
more I got one more topic to uh to throw out here Intel according to tell chips
to become slower but more efficient more at 11 Oh
weird I sign as myself uh
yes there can only be one caring are you going to talk about the uh gravity
waves no actually I don't have that in the dock oh it's so cool you can talk
about gravity about although I don't know enough are we still are they still
hearing us yes they can still hear us they can still hear us because we don't
have a very good audio control board well no they can hear us on purpose I
can make them not hear us oh okay I always assumed that was a mistake on
your part no every single time I can make them stop hearing us immediately no
I I want them I want because Luke and I will often you know my good co-host and
I will often chat while the intro is rolling and we'll pretend that we don't
know that the audience can hear us and they'll be all like we can still hear you in the chat and it's fun it's it's
fun to have fun but you have to know how that's really fun all right let's go
ahead and uh a link to the dock still oh you still need a link to the dock oh you
want to look at the dock I see all right
there you go all right enjoy enjoy the dock yay so let's get into our first
topic really quick here this was posted by tofu man89 on the Forum and the
original article here is from Forbes so
let's go ahead and oh what the hey we'll look at forbes's quote of the day and
their interesting topics let's see if they suggest the topic we're about to
look at no they don't interesting all right thank you for that
so this is an article written by Gordon Kelly and that's the Windows 10 worst
secret spins out of control there have actually been quite a
few Updates this is very much a go go it won't let me open it as Taran it wants
me to be luke then just sign in with a different account well I'm not Luke
though that then that's why you click sign in I signed in well you're just
you're with a different account I already did this there then you sign in
as Teran well why do I have to sign in twice all right all right do your thing
do your thing all right oh wait what it still wants me to be luke uh what yeah
use a different browser oh for heaven s go all right so basically the gist of
this article is that or the the claim that this article makes is that by going
through a process that involved using a DDWRT if I recall correctly uh DDWRT
firmware flashed router um the author
well the author pulled from a post on
some Reddit clone or something where the guy took that router and analyzed what
was happening like how many how many attempts his fresh install of Windows 10
in a VM was making to communicate and
with whom and determined that many of those servers were indeed Microsoft
servers in spite of the user having turned off as many of uh Windows 10's
phone home features as was possible at
least on the consumer versions I was wondering about that when I was
listening to all this Barnacle stuff that he posted about how to disable it
all I'm like how do you know for sure
that it's been disabled yeah so now so
okay this was a user on vote by the way
I believe the original post has actually been pulled down deleted by user at this
point um now I did read another very
very interesting article in in response to this this was also posted in the
lonus tech tips uh Forum post about this
where another another author completely different site came out and said well
hold on a second why don't we have a look at what all of this traffic is and
it turned out that a very significant chunk of it was legitimate traffic
checking in with Microsoft's activation server for example to see if you've
activated Windows which is fair play um
some of them were even requests to the npt time server uh or ntp whatever it is
the were just requests to a Time server to check the clock and make sure that it
was accurate which as far as my experience has been never works anyway
so I just assume it didn't bother but uh that's a whole other topic of
conversation and so that author determined that at least I think it was
something like 90% of this traffic was totally legitimate traffic and part of
the reason why there might have been thousands and thousands of requests in a
short period of time would have been that because of the way that the router
was set up these requests weren't going through so it would have been making
repeated attempts okay so the drama
continues and um Gordon Kelly from
Forbes writes a follow-up article saying well you know what my point wasn't
necessarily the thousands of communication attempts and what exactly
was being communicated my point was if
that you are turning stuff down oh apparently uh oh apparent apparently I'm
peeking I'm sorry the point was that if
they are turning if they are if you're turning all this stuff off then they
shouldn't be sending out anything um so
originally originally Microsoft didn't really respond to Gordon Kelly's article
to the first one but they have since responded Yes yes I I I know I know I'm
sorry I'm sorry about what um
I just turned it down the peing oh the peeking what can't we have
like an auto gate or whatever the heck it's called on here to we we have a
compressor but it's hard it audio is a big pain in the ass
yeah I can tell you that from having to work with it okay well I can I can check
real quick and see if we've managed to fix it but it'll be hard to tell because
I'm talking a lot quieter now so uh whoa
yeah likes to shout all of his things
all the time I'm lonus okay so basically
yeah you know this actually has an indicator so I I I could have been a lot
more careful and I'm very very sorry to the audience right there I I that was
that was very that was a mean thing to uh for for me to do turn down for what
yeah yeah thank you for that okay so
anyway the drama continues and Microsoft has now finally responded to the second
to the follow-up article and and said that sometime this year they are going
to make it possible to turn off everything um I think we have a somewhat
of a time frame for the Enterprise version but I don't know if we have a
time frame for home or Pro users yet um
but they recommend not turning it off
and now to be clear I am not necessarily
A tinfoil hat user you know I don't think that Microsoft cares what I ate
for lunch personally I think they might care what everyone
collectively is eating for lunch hence the anonymized data there is a lot of
value to that anonymized data mining so I don't I don't think they care about me
um but the problem here as the Forbes
writer as Gordon Kelly has pointed out is that if you turn it off if you opt
out it should be opted out it should be
fully opted out and you should not have to send any further
information so
yeah I guess uh I I you know what here I
want to hear from you guys I want to know if you care and you too you've just
kind of sat there for now I mean I I have you have the dock yet I have no I
have the dock I've been looking at gravitational waves stuff okay l so do
you care if Microsoft do do you trust Microsoft to collect your personal data
in a way that is not well can I finish the question to collect your personal
data in a way that is not personally identic if iable and that is not
ethically incorrect
well I mean what data exactly cuz for
something like a smartphone you kind of understand that it's a bit more public
but on my personal computer um like I I I want I want
privacy I want protection I want to be able to do whatever you know nefarious
things I might get up to without Microsoft knowing about it even
anonymous I don't know I mean if if any of you have read 1984 obviously bit of a
different thing with Communism and all that but the the whole idea of my
computer spying on me just kind of makes my skin crawl I don't like it I want to
opt out completely that should be my choice yeah totally okay so riddle me
this then why do you accept this on your phone well I I don't actually um why do
you accept it more why did you even say that why is it that the phone feels less
personal than the personal computer love I'd love to hear from you less personal
yeah um well less
private uh I don't know it's um it's it
it it was really annoying to me when I first got a smartphone and you remember
that cuz you gave me my first smartphone cuz I had a crappy Fisher Price looking
phone he was literally not even using a flip phone he was still using a brick
phone was awful um but like I don't know
like they do make me uncomfortable I've just gotten used to it it's like boiling
the Frog I mean every smartphone is basically a telescreen it's insane how
much data they can track from you with a simple smartphone
but I want my personal computer at least I mean I don't know maybe I just I'm not
used to it yet maybe I haven't been boiled the Frog enough for my personal
computer and that's what they're trying to do we've got some people in twitch
chat saying because you use it in public so do you feel like because
someone could be looking over your shoulder you're not in your own home yeah yeah yeah I I can see yeah maybe
maybe that's the intuitive sort of idea that I'm getting here lead this leads
really well into one of our other topics so I'm glad we're having this conversation but I want to jump back
into the results of that straw pull do you care if Microsoft collects your data
we've got a whopping 53% of you going
with yes and 32% of you not caring and
3% of you the correct or excuse me 15%
of you going with the correct Choice which is of course turnip yeah whatever
um you know what I I
actually as far as evil companies go and
yes I understand that this is this is kind of kind of dumb and that you know
there's I I what I should be doing is spending all of my time you know VPN up
and and turning off all reporting and creating custom you know custom firewall
rules within my router to block any un I
I installed Windows 10 and I left all
the customer experience stuff on I I
left it on default um if I'm going to trust Google with my data then I really
think Microsoft is the lesser of two evils or has been the lesser of two
evils over the last little while here um and I use so many Google services for so
much of what I do even our company uses
Google for our company emails which is
like about as about as personal as
anything about me actually gets really like the the innermost workings of my
business um so I figure if Google's got
it all then you know I'm just I'm almost
kind of just waiting for the hammer to drop on all this like all these
companies have all this information about you they haven't done anything super nefarious with it yet but maybe
one day that we know that we know maybe one day they will I mean you know you'll
get hauled Away by the secret police tonight maybe you know yeah we've got a
lot of people talking in chat saying it's not as simple as a yes or no answer
and I think that might be part of why we got so few responses to that straw poll
because usually we get a lot more uh we've got people saying like well well
just a second it depends what they're collecting I mean if Cortana or Siri
wants to know when my appointment is um so that she can remind me then like cool
or if they want to know my birthday so they can send me a little birthday wish
or whatever I don't need that but well it's not about need it's about it's
about making the user experience friendlier and that's what a lot of the
data they're collecting is for yeah yeah yeah I mean but but the NSA also told us
that they can you know they can be trusted to have our personal information
and they totally turned out it couldn't be trusted y
so and what if maybe they are totally trustworthy now and they have no
nefarious intents they're just collecting this data to do the best
things they can with it great customer experience and so on how do we know that
won't change in the future we don't we don't we don't I mean you look at you
look at how much Microsoft has changed in the last year with the CEO shift has
it yeah I haven't noticed they're they're they're a pretty different
company um and and I've heard this not just from you know media Outlets who
read very different press releases I've heard this from people internally at
Microsoft they're saying it really is different there so I mean that's great
um but what that means is if you can have an if you can have a change for the
better with a with a with leadership change and we're not talking like hiring
an outside CEO he didn't come from outside the company we're talking an
internal guy um so if you can have a change for the better by putting a
different internal guy in charge I think you can definitely have a change for the worse I mean imagine if we put Taran in
charge of lonus Media Group that'd be a disaster all of our videos would be about robots well maybe not all of that
speaking of which do we have our our co-host what the the the yeah the no
he's over there I don't want to even I hate that thing so much I don't want to
see it ever again hey I actually I have this is this is a good opportunity for a
straw poll because I found that the live audience is actually a little bit
different than the uh than the vaud audience the uh the Youtube audience so
what do you think of taran's Hosting
improvements if you guys have cuz I think that he has done a lot better oh I
got a lot of really good comments interesting note on the video that I
just finished editing right now which is the fly cly smart ped scooter kick
assist ebug like I'm less good of a host
I'm like more awkward and the reason is the prompto was so far away because we
had to get the whole bike in the shot that I could barely read it and saw I was awkwardly reading off the prompter
like this and it just was awful also there's no good teleprompter software in
the universe nope so that also sucks
there might be something but it's like anything in the professional production
industry where the the the half yeah the
half decent one is like add two zeros almost worth it at this point though I
mean if it exists you know what I think we do need to get a bigger prompter oh
yeah cuz you're not the only one that has trouble with it's way too small I
well I can far away well lonus is magical he will like do a one take or a
two take for an entire video and it's like oh I have to make two cuts and then
it's done you just start plopping on the graphics all right so actually really
good feedback so far we've got 63% saying great mate eight out of eight um
17% voting correctly for turnup uh 16%
saying okay and only 5% saying bad if 5%
of the internet thinks that you suck you're doing really well that's not bad
well not the internet I mean this is a very biased poll I'm sure the more
hardcore fans are the ones who watch live I I think I think that's fair but
you know what I've also experienced is that sometimes the more hardcore fans
have been the ones that have been more resistant to
change it was a lot of the hardc that
Obed to Luke hosting videos back when we initially did it I can hardly imagine I
mean remember luk do you remember the first time you hosted a fast as possible
awful they were like who is this guy why does he have a beard thing oh yeah like
my hosting was awkward and also lots of yeah but we didn't even properly
introduced me I wanted to put a lower third well they would have hated you no
matter and L was like no you don't need to put your name on there or any
information about who the heck you are it'll be fine and it was awkward it was
awkward well okay they know me now yeah
yeah yeah you know what's really funny too is Brandon is the only one who never
got any Flack Luke got Flack you got
Flack Ed got Flack people just instantly
love Brandon and it's not just it's not just people watching our videos my kids
like Brandon your cats like Brandon yeah like my son was really really shy
especially at the beginning you never worked out of the garage right you
joined us at the house so when we worked out of my house in the
my son was young very sh did not did not
like Luke didn't like pretty much anyone he's a big guy but would give Brandon a
big smile that's so weird yeah it's bizarre he's just like a big teddy bear
yeah he's not as big as he thinks he is sorry Brandon you're not that ripped
you're not that ripped
Brandon Brandon sucks quite on set yeah
quiet on set quiet on set Brandon wa I I put that in the video where you say that
that that'll that's coming up soon that's our that's like funny enough
that's like our new favorite is we just rip on Brandon because he'll be like
somewhere else in the studio and then when he goes to reply it's like don't
quiet on set no we're doing a video Brandon yeah we're recording Brandon you
can't say anything Brandon can't say anything back um so this is some good
news for AMD uh Mr troll posted this originally on the lineus tech tips Forum
amds oh you know what no let's not do this topic next let's do a different
topic next because I had said that that last topic um it was a great segue into
something was a great Segway never made segue yeah no no it's it's here it's
here somewhere my Segways are better than Linus's uh I don't even need to do
a poll my Segways are amazing speaking
of whatever yeah something else here we
that's not a segue so this was posted by Jaws on the Forum the our original
article here is from deep.web all right
and the headline here is pretty concerning turning your phone on is
consenting to being tracked by whom so
but but this is it and it's funny that we say this because you basically just
said that you would be more accepting of
that than someone tracking you when you're on your PC at home and you didn't
know why accepting but you didn't even know why you said it because boil the
Frog because boil the Frog but it's interesting that you might actually be
more right than you would have even thought about and if You' thought about
how right you were you probably wouldn't have said it because this is the
argument being made um so Baltimore
Police obtained an arrest warrant for Karen Andrews in 2014 arrests see it's
happening in an attempt to find this person they used his cell phone yeah of
course they did okay so they requested a pen register order from the judge
expressing intent to locate Karen they used a hail storm to track the phone and
never disclosed this wait hang on a hail storm yeah what do you mean a hail storm
is that a device or an actual hail storm um okay so a hail storm is a machine
that steals your phone's data so there's a variety of there's a variety of
different ones oh is that like a stingray it it intercepts it like it
acts like a telephone pole um yeah so it
covertly intercepts mobile phone conversations in real time okay okay so
they used a hail storm to track phone they never disclosed it um so basically
it acts like a mobile Tower and attacks phones that connect to it it is
indiscriminate and can easily end up scooping up innocent bystanders
information so the Baltimore Sun reports that the police have used the technology
4,300 times oh sure since 2007 I'm not
surprised um a response to a discovery
request asking if Police use a stingray was stalled until June 2015 and in June
2015 a judge concluded the information was intentionally withheld from the
defense by police violating legal disclosure
obligations so they're up to some sneaky shite in
the brief's first statement it states while cell phones are ubiquitous they
all come with an off switch oh if a cell
phone is turned on it is receiving signals from cell towers and sending
signals back out to cell towers unless you put it in Airplane Mode right the
cell site simulat yes
the Cell Site Simulator used in this case took advantage of that fact in
order to locate andrews's phone because Andrew and this is this is bolded in my
notes because Andrews chose to keep his cell phone on he was voluntarily sharing
the location of his cell phone with third parties it's like oh it's it's
your fault you left your blinds open and we looked inside your house except that
what they really have is a device that looks through the walls because no one
else has this thing that can intercept cell phone signals with that said I mean
and let's I'm going to play Devil's Advocate a little bit here it is the
case that if you have the blinds open of
your house yeah and someone a legal thing someone can see what they can see
from public property not on your private property then you are not private would
you agree that turning on your phone which it is true it is true you are
inherently ageing to share information
about your location with third parties
would you argue that that air space is
not private well are the signals encrypted
or not no okay can you encrypt the
signals not you won't have a way of encrypting
everything I mean encryption has to be supported at both end points yeah and in
flight and so it's it's not not not a thing at the I me I I I just just sounds
ridiculous to me is all so and and
remember it's it's not everything like you can enter your credit card
information and that can be encrypted while it's being sent but we're talking
about voice here yeah um I I think that's dumb I mean if I'm in my if I if
I'm Alexander van Bell or whatever his name was not van Bell van Bell van Bell
who by the way didn't invent the telephone yeah way to be an American
about it whatever um like you're in your home making a phone call mhm and then
you hang up the phone and the person answering in their home listening to you
y and just because you have a fancy wiretapping device doesn't mean that you
should be allowed to listen to my conversation I don't see the difference
between picking up my phone and just leaving it on MH you know with the
signal uh dial tone and well I mean if
you pick up your phone and you just leave it sitting around and then someone
hears something that you say but they're somewhere where they shouldn't have been
anyway yeah but they're in a public space it's I I don't like any of this at
all I just don't like it I don't want to have to like oh you have your phone
anyway no it's like this is my phone so I will I will make the argument that
even if the police didn't do anything illegal to uh to Andrews like even if
they were in public doing public things um I would
make the argument that they did something illegal to the cell phone
carrier because they do actually pay for
the exclusive right to use those bands now with that said we have a cell phone
signal booster here in our office that's true that effectively acts as a little
mini tower right here in our building and then translates everything in and
out to the a nearby cell phone tower yeah but it's dumb it just it's
basically a what if it wasn't well then it that that would be laws would have
something to say about about that I would hope well the carrier wouldn't
care so the carrier is the one who owns the spect mhm okay or well the carrier
doesn't it's legal mhm it's legal for me to have that you think it would ever be
illegal uh could somebody abuse this
technology everyone in this complex could be talking on our booster could
they yes they and then we could tap in and be perfectly legal in fact our cell
phone booster had an issue with it last uh two weeks ago where our outer anten
our outdoor antenna was too close to our indoor antenna and it was causing an
interference Spike on someone else's mobile network so our carrier didn't
even know oh yeah um but they showed up and they were like hey yo you actually
need to move those and that was definitely interfering with the service
of other people around us who were not even on the same carrier mhm cuz our
cell phone booster is Carrier agnostic it actually works with every Canadian
carrier so someone in the next building over and the next building over there
because we got a Ballin cell phone booster uh with like Ballin antennas
because we had really we had really bad
yeah like we couldn't use our phones in the building um but that means that they
can have the benefit of our cell phone booster and we could theoretically
intercept and that would be legal I don't know okay but if the police the
kind of thing that should be if the police do it then maybe if they go
through the correct due process it is legal but I think the argument being
made here is that they didn't they intentionally didn't disclose it but
they're saying hey well whatever if you turn on your phone you should accept that third parties have your
location what's the next topic yeah I'll
try and find something that you'll like a little bit better okay uh so this was
posted by Mr troll on the Forum the original article here is from wccf Tech
AMD's Polaris graphics cards will make the minimum VR spec more affordable for
everyone targeting price points below
3.49 to deliver what would be a min
minimum minimum like a minimum recommended uh gameplay experience in VR
so this is something Luke's talked about a fair bit on the show and really VR is
his wheelhouse not mine but I do want to talk about this a little bit to have a
good experience in VR you not only have to run it a high resolution because it's
the whole it's the whole retina concept all over again it's like why is why is
1080p just fine and I can't see any of the pixels from like 10 ft away and you
know why do I need uh you know okay
that's a bad example um cuz it's closer to your face whatever the point is yeah
the closer it is the more pixels you need so you can't see so if it's right
here you need a ton of pixels they need to be really tiny also the uh in
resolution of your eyes increases as it gets closer to the center right so you
need to maybe what what do they have like eye tracking to put extra pixels
where your eyes are looking do they do that I think they do Luke was talking
about this I don't remember what are you looking at uh and balls apparently
what that's uh Nick Nick Van burkel okay
are we yeah get get out we should never have put that window in I know right all
right Nick it was like you feel that book and that's a full page spread full
page page spread you haven't seen that before yeah that get out of here right
get out of here um okay so another factor is that we always talk about
average f PS okay like that's what everyone loves to talk about I got 80
FPS average in Crisis 3 or whatever game it is MHM average FPS is almost
meaningless in VR because on a screen
when you get that chug or that stutter it's annoying it's not so jarring yeah
on a head-mounted display as you're moving around like this that's super
weird that jutter will make you feel motion sick oh for sure so what's going
to become more important is the minimum um frame rate yeah so you're going to
have to you're going to have to reach a high frame rate which is also important
for smooth motion again so you don't get motion sickness you're going to have to
maintain that frame rate all the time and it's going to have to be at a high resolution so AMD is basically coming
out and saying their new Polaris architecture gpus will be faster and
more affordable thanks to their upgraded architecture making VR uh easily more
easily attainable for everyone which pretty much goes without saying and is
about like saying that NVIDIA's new graphics cards will be faster and more
affordable for equivalent performance and Intel's new CPUs will be faster and
more affordable except the same thing slightly faster slightly smaller except
welcome to CES Asos sometimes bigger if
we're talking TVs faster and bigger not faster and smaller smart guy depends on
what it is yeah sometimes bigger is better sometimes smaller is better
sometimes we can't decide I mean remember when phones wanted to be smaller and then bigger and then along
and then bigger again and then the thing that's not the iPad came along the NFL
whatever not not oh the surface yeah the surface um okay unless your Intel and
this was posted on the Forum by a person I just said I
think Intel chips will have to sacrifice
speed gains for Energy savings m d d
d but I don't I don't get it how's that different from just going back a
generation right uh well back a generation we didn't have as good power
efficiency or power consumption in general you mean from the power supply
or in the chip itself the chip itself how much power it requires from the
power supply so uh William Holt executive VP and GM
of Technology and Manufacturing Group which is basically like big deal at
Intel I mean what do they do other than Technology and Manufacturing
okay says that new techologies in chip
manufacturing will favor better energy consumption over faster execution times
and is calling it an end to Moore's Law
so um he discussed some new technologies at the international solid state
circuits conference in San Fran such as tunneling transistors and spintronics
and says look we're going to see major Transitions and the best pure technology
improvements we can make will bring improvements in power consumption but
will reduce speed so spintronics is
expected to begin to appear in commercial Technologies such as Graphics
chips within 18 months but Intel has not yet committed to tunneling transistors
or spintronics or really much of anything they're just saying hey look
guys be ready for your smartphone or
your tablet or your you know thin and light gaming PC to be more efficient uh
and consume less power and have longer battery life but don't expect it to
actually be faster very very interesting
so we've been going through a long period of time now where we've been
getting I mean it used to be oh man it used to be so awesome like within a
single architecture we would get multiple speed bumps that would give us
like 10 to 20% performance improvements it was freaking sick and when we got a
generational Improvement when we got a new architecture it was like it was like
bananas it was it it was the bomb like the the article on the release of the
Core 2 Duo on Anon Tech probably has
like millions and millions of views whereas like I mean we didn't even do a
review of one CPU release from Intel until like 3 weeks later and literally
four people complained like it's gotten to the point where we get these tiny
performance improvements but what we do get is better power consumption which on
the desktop most people and some people do but most
people are less concerned about and what they would really prefer to have is more
performance and it looks like that trend is going to not only continue where we
don't really get huge performance games anymore but it could actually get worse
where it's like the new chip that comes out is going to save me money on the
power bill here in the building but is not going to make your video render any
faster how much power does a CPU really use um like is it worth that minuscule
amount I mean compared to putting the lights on and heaters and which is a
great question at home at home I would say
especially here in BC where our power comes from falling water and we have
plenty of that which is basically free
um no it's no big deal however in places
where the power is coming from coal burning coal or um you know other fossil
fuels um then yes if you can change if
you can like let's say let's say as CPU consumes only 65 Watts okay uh if you
can cut that down by 10 or 20 or or or
25% then we're talking yeah that for the same or slightly less performance then
we're talking maybe 12 to you know 15 watts per CPU in your home does that
matter no no however for a massive data
center many homes let's say every home in an entire country had a computer that
was 15% more efficient you're going to save a lot more energy with just
different lights and more efficient Heating and insulation which isn't to
say that you can't do all of those things it's just to say that it is a
factor and if you're running a data center which you just brought up that's
the huge savings right there where you're running literally 100,000 CPUs
under Under One Roof but I'm thinking like cost spense to energy saves like
buying yourself a brand spanking new CPU from Intel to save something on your
power bill is never going to be worth it for most people it's going to be a lot
more worth it to get LED lights more
insulation um stuff like that that is a
very interesting that is a very interesting potential topic for a video
right there oh where we cuz I actually did this a long time ago um back when 80
plus gold efficiency rated power supplies first started popping up and I
kind of went oh okay so let's look at
this two different ways yeah how long do
you have to run this computer to to
justify buying a new power supply outright right
and how long do you have to run this computer to justify the more expensive
power supply versus buying a cheaper one if you were going to have to buy a power
supply anyway and in BC it was like
until the end of time right like the end of you know that that place in Chrono
Trigger where the old man is standing on the little island like that's how long
you'd have to wait um but in places like California where power is much more
expensive because I think they're buying a lot of it from us um or at least they
used to be um actually it didn't take that long it
took like 3 or four years mhm so I would be interested to know how many
generations back you have to go for a
full system upgrade to pay for itself in
a reasonable span of time like within the lifespan of the system like years
prob like ever like the further back you go the more reasonable it is to upgrade
yes right but I mean the stuff we saw at free geek was nuts like those power
supplies those two Mass it was amazing 350 power suppes were two
of them and it's like oh we have this tiny one that do the same thing for we
cheaper now and that's amazing um but where's The Sweet Spot yeah but but yeah
and like like you could also factor in improving the installation in your home
and changing the Windows to like triple paint or whatever um although really
what you you should have is like smaller Windows if you want to save on energy
bills um factor that all in as well I
don't know if if if it would be so easy to uh test that yeah we wouldn't be able
to we we wouldn't be able to look at all of those things I mean like I mean seal
up the cracks in your doors you know y stop the heat from escaping you know
just just go go nutso on it yeah very
interesting people are saying this is basic physics to be honest the same
amount of power will be used to boil water something something I'm sure that
is in response to someone else in twitch chat now that I read a little bit more
of it I don't think that really has anything to do with what we're talking about what I found interesting um when I
was learning about uh Bitcoin mining and
like C cryptocoin Mining and whatever is that the energy you use to power the
gpus being released as heat is like the same as just having an electric heater
right because it's thermodynamics so either you can use that uh energy to
heat up your room or you can use it to heat up your room and get Bitcoins which
is kind of cool although of course the equipment is very expensive and also
it's not worth it anymore so did you get a Bitcoin back in the day I
didn't get any Bitcoins you never you never you never mind one not Bitcoin no
not one not any yeah rock on all right our next
topic here is posted by Top Dollar on the Forum and the original article here
is from Computer World the Navy calls on
researchers to create firefighting humanoid robots that's
awesome that would be freaking awesome
something straight at of SciFi I mean this is one of those things where I
don't see this within a within a reasonable amount of time taking over
the role of the fire department and the people who work at the fire department I
don't see this as a threat to the firefighters jobs for heaven sakes no I
see this as a significant Improvement in
the safety oh yeah of firefighters in the in the much more immediate future
building's on fire it is in danger of collapse at any moment yeah I mean being
able to being able to Pilot just a firefighter drone walking around
in there would be awesome and I mean if they can build robotic arms that are
delicate enough for a surgeon to perform a surgery remotely then I don't think
it's unreasonable to expect to be able to build a firefighting robot that can
run in and grab someone and pull them out of a building now there are going to
be some challenges of course you're going to have to make it lightweight enough that it doesn't cause the
freaking building to collapse just by setting foot in it um now now ridddle me
this why humanoid because I think I have the answer but I want to know if they
say it in the article why they want it to be humanoid the context of this is
need to be or does it the context of this is the Navy so they want these to
fight onboard fires so I would imagine getting around on a ship is going to
require some pretty humanoid like characteristics because it's built for
humans already that's right that's why you build a robot humanoid and I mean
ships are expected to be in service for decades it's not like you know you
develop this technology today and in the future maybe you don't need a human one
maybe there's a rail that's designed throughout the ship that any that a
firefighting unit can fly around on or whatever but then you got to install
that everywhere and if it doesn't exist then yeah if you have a humanoid robot
it will go and do everything that and you can retrofit can do yeah you can
retrofit stuff with that so uh the US military's Office of Naval Research is
giving out a grant of $600,000 to a Worchester Polytechnic Institute
Professor to develop motion planning algorithms for firefighting humanoid
robots so the robot must be agile and
and able to move in tight spaces on a ship or a submarine
yeah I I love this stuff very interesting very cool very very
cool yeah this is the kind of thing where like you hear about it and then
you'd hear nothing for like 10 20 years
and then later they have a breakthrough it's like oh yeah I remember that hey
that I mean stuff like that has already happened on WAN Show Luke and I have
been doing wow for like two years now I think and we like we've had well no it's
a very small amount of time but we've already had stuff where we like talked
about it and then it turned into a real thing yeah which is which is which is
pretty cool pretty cool speaking of things that are pretty cool I wish um I
don't remember who originally posted this on the Forum unfortunately but it
was definitely there and this actually happened last week I think not this week
February 3rd yeah uh Microsoft acquires swift key is that bad that sucks why
does that suck because I love swift key what are they going to do to it to ruin
it nothing well that's exactly it they're
not going to upgrade it so Microsoft has entered a definitive agreement to
acquire swift key whose highly rated highly engaging Swift Key software
keyboard and SDK Powers more than 300 million Android and iOS devices let's
just have every company merge into one giant company that'll be great L the buy
and large buy and large super store so
um the swift key blah blah blah Swift Keys Tech aligns with our vision for
more personal Computing experiences that anticipate our needs versus responding
to our Command says Harry sham executive VP of tech and research they're looking
to also integrate swift key Tech into wordflow technology for Windows and
they're moving some of swift key staff to blah blah blah positions here and
there which basically means swift key which was awesome and so many people are
like lus why do you like swift key so much the stock keyboard has flow typing
I don't care about flow typing flow typing is crap swift key predictive text
is excellent and this is a a mini cupcake which is also excellent thank
you uh thank you very very much both of
you what's the story here this
wonderful testing out mini cupcakes for a wedding testing out oh then I have to
take one yeah go for it ah so we're guinea pigs now thanks Steph appreciate
that sorry you don't mind if I say your name right okay I didn't know if it I
didn't know if it was private or anything yeah so so Colton's fiance is
apparently poisoning his boss and colleague now that's fine as long as
it's delicious I thought we I thought we were friends yeah we're tight it's
supposed to be a gift of love ah gift of love like like we want to be together
forever I want to preserve you this way for all time it's it's chalk full of uh
I can never think of words when I need them um what's the preservative that
they use for dead bodies oh wow from
alhy Jo fulla from alide don't ask how I know
that he preserved forever right I don't actually think that it is from alahh
when they embal people I think embalming fluid is a different thing felhide is
for dead bodies technically though if you want to preserve them like in a jar
well that's very different though all right you win okay so I'm not an icing
guy yeah me you I I really don't like icing I always when I have cake the
icing gets slopped off to one side and I eat the cake part but what I will say
is that the peanut butter cupcake is excellent yeah I am I am down for the
peanut butter cupcake but if you were making it for me personally which I
don't expect it's like there'll be everyone else's and then there's Linus's
one cupcake for just lonus it's like one of frosting then it would it would be
like it would almost have to have more like like a
chocolate or something like that cuz that's part of the peanut butter cup
experience is yeah a little
much but you should talk to Ivonne because she's an icing person she's into
icing whereas like for me if it's not like a super light cream cheese icing
then you might as well just leave yeah
tuxedo what's a tuxedo huh oh this it
it's it's good it's fine tastes like a cupcake you know I mean you know it's
it's great I try to give you know specific feedback I mean I mean it's I I
don't know what it's not yeah I mean it's fantastic
yeah yeah that is wow I've never actually had a peanut butter
cupcake I'm down for that so sorry I'm super
bummed swift key about swift key especially
because swift key on Android is already pretty much perfect
um they fixed most of my minor complaints swift key Cloud means that
when I type in like GeForce GTX 980t I
the t is Big the I is small like it's amazing it gets everything right um but
on iOS it sucks and I was really hoping
that over time twift key would continue to fix it and I just don't really have
much hope for that anymore how hard is this though I mean it's a keyboard right
it it predicts what you're going to write do you use it yes I use
something can I see your phone it's not installed on this one I haven't switched
yet it's on the other phone okay well it's pretty it's it's it's it's more
complic if it wasn't complicated Microsoft wouldn't have bought them for
however many millions of dollars I don't think we know um but yeah it's it's it's
predictive technology it's really cool
um yeah I'm oh I'm just I'm just sad I
don't really have anything else to say about that other than that I'm sad mhm I
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that's funny um this is cool so this was posted
by doc Swag On The Forum original article here is from PC World and here's
what I want to understand is why on Earth hasn't this been a thing forever
when you buy a license of a game why can't you just play it on any device you
want like I feel much the same way about DVDs and Blu-ray discs that I buy if I
feel like viewing these on my phone which by the way doesn't have a DVD
drive the last time I checked no it I would hope then I don't care about using
your stupid service of which there are however stupid many of them and are
licensed for however many stupid devices cuz quite frankly I switch phones more
frequently than most people and that is extraordinarily inconvenient for me with
service like DRM type services like that
um Google play music by the way is awesome if you run out of devices and
you run out of times you can run out of devices you just call them up they fixed
it in like 45 seconds and offered me a Google Play credit for my trouble I was
like that's incredible um anyway so I
I've never really understood why when you buy a license to a game you don't
just own the license to a game CU it's not like it really
money I do know why but anyway if they can get you to buy a a movie on your
phone and your computer and a DVD why
wouldn't they and same for games so
Gamers who pre-order the Xbox One's Quantum break which by the way I'm not
recommending to do uh will receive a free digital copy for Windows 10 PC mhm
very cool now I don't personally agree
that that's a free digital copy I think it is is a paid for digital copy because
you paid for it yeah but maybe more people will start doing this it'll
become the norm the game will manage save games crossplatform which is sick
that's awesome and that's extra functionality
right there and Microsoft's Chief plans to make the crossby a platform feature
of the Xbox one which in my mind should
have been what they did out of the gate to differentiate the Xbox and I know
licensing agreements with the game developers are complicated and all this stuff and I get that but I don't I I I I
don't understand why this wasn't more obvious what a cool and awesome and
consumer friendly thing to do MH um so
yeah it's a baby step it's definitely baby step we're talking one game but you
know crossplatform play crossplatform save games crossplatform in-game
settings the ability to actually choose
how I want to experience something very very cool very cool love it I mean this
is a way to use the cloud in a way that
is not obnoxious you know and you look at something like GeForce now okay
NVIDIA's cloud gaming service where you are gaming off the cloud and you have to
have like a ball and internet connection and it's like well you know what it's
actually easier for me to just pack my Xbox with me to go to a friend's house
there's a reason the cloud to butt extension exists because usually we hear
about the cloud in some stupid way whereas this if it's just like oh I go
over to my buddies and we can use my cloud save of you know I'm I'm obviously
putting the cart before the horse here but uh you know my cloud save of you
know Mario Kart and we can unlock all the characters without me actually
having to physically bring my console or my games right cool cool yay Cloud
features in a way that is not you know terrible or if like you can go over to
your friend you know back to an Xbox example if you can be like yeah hey you
want to play this game together that I just Scott you go over there you don't
actually have to bring your your disc you don't have to bring your console you can just sit down at his console you
sign into your Xbox account or log on to
you know your Live account on his Windows 10 PC or whatever or hers and
you can just play it and you can experience it together that is so cool and that is the way that it should be I
am all for personal licenses for things
um and I am even willing to accept a subscription model for that experience
where if I go sit for if I go well not
but for a lot of things if I sit down in front of a computer I want to have the
full Microsoft Office experience I am an Office 365 subscriber and I love it and
same for something like Creative Cloud to be able to just be like okay on any
computer I don't have to have a CD key I don't have to have a disc I don't have
there's some advantages to Creative Cloud but boy do I have opinions about
it I know it's not perfect Taran but
this is probably worth mention Adobe has committed to send out not one but two
technicians to our site to come investigate um this month to come
investigate how we're using the products and some of the challenges that we have
and help us improve our workflow which for the first time ever as an Adobe
customer I really feel valued and like the $600 a month or whatever it is I
give them is actually going somewhere other than a black hole pit of money at
the Adobe headquarters it was my complainy videos about Premiere that
ended up setting this up I never expected that anything would come from
those I I just I make these videos where I complain about the features Premiere
doesn't have yeah and like are actually quite rude about it yeah they
are um like super snarky can we talk
about um gravitational waves next because this is amazing uh sure do you
want to hang out to me the article so I already did wow you are like a somewhat
competent person it's not the article it's a Reddit Mega thread which I don't
know probably is a very excellent thing to uh get to so
anyway gravitational waves I don't know much about these but it's kind well I'm
glad you're informing the rest of us then it's kind of um as amazing as
discovering like uh electromagnetic waves almost sort of like we don't
really know exactly what we'll be able to do with them uh I just I usually I
know a lot more details cuz this stuff really interests me but basically
um it's an enormous Discovery um this was been theorized by uh what is it
special or general relativity I think general relativity for like since
Einstein and we just now um determined
that it is in fact a thing so the direct detection of them the direct detection
has happened cuz in 1993 they had already indirectly detected them yes
they and and a Nobel Prize or whatever in physics was awarded for that and now
someone's going to get a prize for this but check this out what it was it was so
cool it's so cool how they found these is they got like this thing that shot a
laser that got split in two and then bounced back and the tiny tiny
differences in the interference between those two lasers was used to detect if
waves of gravity gravitational waves were happening because all of SpaceTime
gets kind of warped so they'll bounce back at different rates and it's like
just minuscule amount and what it was that was detected was two super massive
black holes spinning together and colliding which apparently output 50
times this is amazing 50 times the energy of the entire universe during
that event like and then and then we get
this tiny blip back here on Earth like 1 billion years later isn't that amazing
don't quote me on the 50 times thing I I saw that some physicist might have said
that but it's kind of here say right now so you can check out the mega thread
yeah very much a developing uh developing at but but basically I mean
like it's as exciting as discovering the electron cuz we don't really know what
it's going to be useful for power not energy appar until okay until like
future advancements but like physicists are extremely excited about this it's
amazing yeah people are saying power not energy and it can't be more than the
entire universe might have been a Galaxy or something anyway the point is a lot I
I'll look for The Source on that one yeah but it was people are like can
I power my computer with them no you cannot welcome to twitch chat
yeah um all right what else we got here
oh this is great uh Ubisoft developer concedes that the division um PC version
was held back by the consoles so we're back to more more digging by Ubisoft
original article here was from kit Guru and this was posted on the Forum by
roohi Kumar s so an unnamed developer
stated that they had to keep the PC version of the division in check with
consoles because it would kind of be unfair to push it so far away from them
Ubisoft sent PC games and a statement saying it has come to our attention that
a comment from one of our team members has been perceived by some te some
members of the community to imply the PC version of the division was held back
and it is simply not true from the beginning the PC version of the division
was developed from the ground up and we're confident players will enjoy the game and the features that this version
has to offer and the feedback from PC players who participated in the recent
closed beta supports this now to be clear
I am not piling on the Ubisoft hate train on this one because I will be the
first to hate on up crappy port a port
that doesn't have graphical Fidelity sliders because they just couldn't be
ared a port that says press a to continue when I do not have a game pad
attached and when I press a on my keyboard it doesn't do a bloody thing
that's what I object to whereas if they developed the game from the ground up on
PC and it's well optimized and runs as well I'm not going to crucify them for
that if the game has to exist within the
same mortal realm as the PlayStation 4
and the Xbox One like if they can't just make a completely different game for the
PC and the Xbox one I understand that too you can't you can't be like oh well
we've got this great idea for a gameplay mechanic that would have the you know
player character blah blah this too many polygons something something like that
it's just not technically feasible on all the platforms that the game has to
be released on then in that way a game
like the the the the paradig the gameplay paradigms might be held back by
the consoles but that's not the same as
nerfing the game because they didn't want to create too much disparity in the
marketing materials between what the PC version and the console version looked
like like what we saw with Watch Dogs mhm was watch doog significantly better
on PC um no it was it was it was nerfed
significantly from the original like uh E3 trailers that were showing off oh
yeah that sucks so I don't feel like this is the same thing but it could be
proven that I am totally wrong and I am giving them the benefit of the doubt for
nothing I just I I believe they learned their
lesson um and I I don't think they were stupid enough to do that again then
again they are Ubisoft and they they they do they do dig um all right I've
got one more or two more rapid fire topics here uh this was posted by doc
Swag On The Forum original article here is from PC World let's go ahead and pop
that up um coming soon to a consumer laptop near you smoother video with
AMD's free sync so that's pretty cool I mean that was bound to happen eventually
I mean the original demos of free sync were actually done on laptops because
they're not inherently that different from like some laptops the way that the
display and the GPU interface is not inherently that different from the way free sync works at all um oh AMD D Scott
Watson good old Scott this was posted by doc Swag On The Forum apparently tweeted
an image of what looks like a fury X2 or
two Fiji gpus or something like that so
Fury X2 is being teased wow it's coming
really close to Polaris maybe Polaris
isn't going to be as fast as I had hoped cuz if two fijes even makes any
sense um H I have no opinions on this
topic that's fine uh oh actually oh crap oh there
were oh man Opera got bought for 1.2
billion by a Chinese Consortium um so that's sort of a bummer
if you if you cared about the Opera browser which I personally didn't but
I'm sure some people do what is Nick doing uh selfie sticks are actually banned in this office yeah also Disney
World so yeah I'm going to take a selfie with you
guys on the W show what are you why can
can they see I felt like I wasn't interrupting anyone's day oh yeah we
like with the giant penis in the window thank you for that by the way um
by so 1.2 billion uh wow actually yeah
there's dang it there's a bunch of really good stuff okay there is one more that I did want to discuss though so
this was originally posted by syntax vgm
on the Forum the original article is actually from
wired and is about how wired is going to
handle ad blocking M so wired is going
to start um offering a subscription based
service for people who want to browse
the site without ads and they are going
to block access to their content from
people who are using an ad blocker now there is no uh there is no like hard and
fast tried and true for sure we can do this way to block ad blocking but
they're going to try has this been tried before oh yeah oh yeah definitely has it
succeeded before um I don't know to be
perfectly honest with you cuz cuz one thing that might happen is people with
ad block just won't visit them anymore and they won't pay
um I don't know I mean it all I mean it's it's the whole it's the whole
piracy argument again right like you know well I won't I won't I wouldn't
have paid for it anyway or I would I wouldn't have looked at the ad anyway
I don't remember what it is but okay so anyway couple quotes So on an average
day more than 20% of the traffic to wi.com comes from a reader who is
blocking our ads we know that you come to our site primarily to read our
content but it's important to be clear that advertising is how we keep wired going paying the writers editors
designers engineers and other staff that work so hard to create the stories that
you read and watch here so there will be two easy options to access that content
you can simply add.com to your ad blockers white list they're not even
going as far as to say don't use ad blocker because there are a lot of
compelling reasons to use an ad blocker when you do we will keep the ads as
polite as we can and you will only see standard display advertising or number
two you can subscribe to a brand new AdFree version of wire.com and for a
dollar a week you will get complete access to our content with no display advertising or ad tracking I think a
dollar a week is out to lunch I can't think of a website on Earth that I would
pay a dollar a week rather than I thought it was a dollar a month I didn't
even hear week cuz it was kind of okay YouTube R I would pay the $109 9 or
whatever $1.99 it is for you mon that's
per month okay but we're talking wired
wants something like what 40% of the cost of YouTube red or 30% or something
like that H and and it's one of those things where whether they like it and
whether you like it or whether anyone likes it or not the value of
written is just not as high it's not
perceived to be as high as the value of
video Even though and this is a point I've made many times there are so many
YouTube videos that would be way better as articles yep right because it's just
pictures and talking just let me read it because
there can be as much or more that goes into a really well done written article
as a video for sure and there can also be a lot more that goes into a video
than an article which doesn't to say video is easy like we're not we're not
we're not making push a couple buttons in the video edits itself I don't know
about you so we've had a really dis
interesting discussion on the Forum uh we've had that goes back and forth uh
between people who have sort of different different sort of uh different
opinions one way or the other so there's there's the usual like okay you know
it's it's their right to set a price uh the price is whatever they say it is and
if you don't like it then you don't have to visit the site um there's people
saying that wired is shooting themselves in the foot because ultimately no one's
going to be interested in advertising with them at all if they can't show
massive site traffic numbers um which is
which which they will be able to if they don't actively block people from
accessing their site 20% to a greater degree hey 20% can be a can be a pretty
darn big deal that's you know we could get 20% more traffic to our whatevers
that'd be awesome and then you know other people are saying you know blah
blah blah I shouldn't have to pay for it other people are saying you know uh just
because something is posted on the internet doesn't mean it's free and people are saying well they should find
other ways to other ways to support it other than obnoxious ads and I guess one
of the things that I want to point out um and it was it was going to be a
direct response to someone but I didn't remember who it was and I didn't
unfortunately um who reads yeah someone was saying blah blah blah of course you
have the right to control your browsing experience on your computer and modify
web code on your computer but the content provider also has the right to
block their ads and so you know you we sure we can have this arms race um blah
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah yeah I really wish I
could find I really wish I could find the uh well what what did he say damn it
I don't remember I'm trying to find the post and I'm very sad right now very
very sad right now it's hard to think when you have a camera on you and it's
live the point I was going to make in response though is that if you back
content providers into a corner where I
mean frankly we're doing great we're we're surviving just fine but many
written sites are not and that's where things like audio or autop playing video
or full page ads are coming from is they are in my mind mistakenly um getting
more and more in your face about the ads in an attempt to keep their advertising
revenues high enough in order to survive because frankly it is an awful lot of
work to make good content whether it's video or whether it's written and it's
unfortunate that people don't value the written content the way that they used
to so what I the argument that I'm making is if you refuse to subscribe and
you refuse to view ads um one of the oh
that's a bummer do a SoundCloud could be forced to close after $44 million losses
is an article I just pulled up here okay I was just on the subject of companies
not being able to finance themselves yeah and so on go on then what you might
find yourself stuck with is a lot more native advertising and what Native
advertising can look like is things like you know those sponsored articles um
things like that um where it's not actually immediately
obvious um you know like uh like what
would it be like you know this plant that Dr Oz said was amazing yeah um you
could end up with a lot of that instead
so I don't know
all right well is that it are we are we
done yeah I think we're done wow that's kind of a bummer we we talk about
SoundCloud to be forced to close after $44 million losses how do you lose $44
million because people kept investing in the
company um because they'll make money later right that's isn't that how all
these websites work what is soundcloud's model I think we pay them but it isn't
very much money we do pay them that's where all the archives go up so it might
have to be moved somewhere else now sorry guys um and yeah I I I thought you
would appreciate this one they apparently brought in $17 million in
Revenue in 2014 mhm um that sounds good
it's less than 44 million employee wages during that
period increased 42.5% to 17.9 million Eur M meaning that
the average employee was paid
9,000 a year what does SoundCloud need that many
people for you think do they have like a hundred
people what do we need that many people for what do they have a hold on a second
hold on a second what how many people work
there I mean isn't it just like a a a music uploading site yeah
interesting okay well there you go so thank you for tuning in to the W show
guys we will see you again next week same bat Time same bat Channel and maybe
on Soundcloud but maybe not yeah sorry
derp and yes they can still hear us right now still hear us I was just going
to say hello Internet people
time doubt I I conducted some scientific
polls asking people like do protons Decay yes no or turnup and turnup one
but then I was like oh I can determine real uh truths about the universe with h
on a website this is how Fox News
operates oh snap