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and we're live good evening everybody it

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might not actually be evening where you are but I think you kind of get my point

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um oh there's already oh look at this look at this we've already got a viewer

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who's uh who's all about sort of our audio issues and uh how I should fire

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slick and hire him so that or her could

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be a girl I heard there's a girl on the

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internet what's the name a oh yeah I have no idea yeah AO no idea there's a

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lot of girls on that internet tons of them or at least

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pictures that creepers took of girls on the internet it's a lot of that so good

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night every oh good night no wait we're not done that's more of a we're done thing it's night here though it's

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actually very late at night we had a very long day today we had once again

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you know what for those of you who complain that it's unprofessional of us

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to eat on the live stream um you know

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what we're very sorry that we have to do that and trust us it's like we're not

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that cool with what time like what time did we leave today this morning like

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leave 2:45 nine yeah okay so so we got

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started around 9: today and then we actually start that's that's pretty

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typical on Fridays we shoot ncx Tech tip so then we make it back here for our

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live stream at 9:00 our time and then we go for another hour and a half so you

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guys do the math and then there's uh

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work afterwards because I have to then watch the live

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stream I I have to then watch the live stream I spilled food in my lap of

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course you guys are wondering so so do I prefer this system the answer is no no

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because it results in like a 13 14 hour

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day yeah pretty much and then we get to eat at the like 12 hour Point that's the

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first time we get to eat yep busy busy days so the good news is we have a busy

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busy live stream for you one of the biggest the news this week was that um

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NVIDIA has started well not they've

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started they are not talking about it at all but the internets are starting to

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talk about a replacement for the GTX 680

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have you seen this have you heard about this so the rumor the word on the street

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is it's going to be based on failed Tesla cores so Tesla's used for what's

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that a supercomputer that deployed like a bajillion Teslas not that long ago I

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won't know the name of it yeah I can't remember the name of it but Tesla is

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used for supercomputing it's used for um things like cloud gaming so if you're

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not familiar with cloud gaming that's um you know what I'll let you talk about

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cloud gaming while I try to take like three bites here I'm not a fan of cloud

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gaming but the idea is that it's all rendered and everything's pre-processed

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in the cloud and then streamed down to your computer okay so tell me this about

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cloud gaming based on oh right you

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weren't there for Project Shield okay of course you have to troll me again no I

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had forgotten because I was I was pretty down on cloud gaming

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uh to start with like I was like oh yeah this isn't going to work bye-bye but

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based on what I saw from Project

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Shield it could work is that not local streaming though yes it's local

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streaming but it's local streaming over Wireless which can't be that much better

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than remote streaming over copper right

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or better yet fiber yeah so when fiber hits cloud gaming is going to make your

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gaming computer totally irrelevant forever it will never matter ever

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again nope I'll play Legacy games You'll Play Legacy games yep you know what's

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funny is I actually have Parts in my attic that are I have a yeah my my my

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wife doesn't know about cuz she told me when we moved here she told me to throw

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out all of the unnecessary Tech crap that I have and I was like oh yeah yeah

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it's all gone it's all gone don't worry about it um it's hiding in the Attic

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yeah there's a there's a box hiding in the Attic of enough Legacy Parts I think

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I have a P2 233 some Edo RAM or it might

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be might have been SD RAM by that time might be SD RAM I've got an old old id

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like ATA 33 hard drive um like an a64

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sound card Isa Isa a64 sound card and my

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intention at some point is to find like a balling case and then just like I've

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got an at power supply to go with it

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and then I'm going to try like Frankenstein it into this balling

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awesome looking machine so I can have a dedicated box just to play TIE fighter

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so I've got my old thrustmaster Top Gun

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joystick I saw that too seral seral

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joystick epic there's one guy on the forums you got to check out his build

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blog he did I don't remember all your specs if you're watching I'm sorry um

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but the thing that stood out the most was he got voodo SLI running I told you about this I think

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mhm yeah and that's just so awesome awesome so awesome wasn't he like even

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running like old benchmarks on it he was running old benchmarks and trying to

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prove his platform and like showing off him playing games and like really really

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cool really cool build log he's talking about how he'd like buy stuff and people

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would just send like like he said his two processors just came like taped

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together two processors yeah so it's

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like a dual CPU what like oh it must be like penium super super uber highend

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yeah I think it might be pum I actually acquired back before I don't remember

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what it is before dual cores were affordable um I had the I I I acquired

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two Pentium 31 gigahertz and I think I

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got something like a gig and a half of RAM or something for it uh when I

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upgraded my my in-laws machine a number of years ago like this was this must

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have been like six years ago because um

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and you know what it actually kind of rocked running a modern OS like Windows

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XP with dual processors even though

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though they were underpowered for something like an office machine is way

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better than a single core one of one of my most prized possessions within my

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like the the the like room in your house

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where you put all your Tech crap one of my most prized possessions in there

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which I have like wrapped up like crazy in an antistatic bag so that I hope it

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won't die is a one gig dim of uh ddr1

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seriously yeah that's freaking awesome those were expensive those were like

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crazy I don't know where I got it from I didn't buy it like I probably got out of

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some system that a friend was like oh you can just have this I'm buying a new one I know you do computer crap and they

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probably just bought a new system from Best Buy and like gave me their old crappy one crappy quote unquote because

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it had a 1 gig ddr1 dim in it but yeah I I harvested that and just hold on to it

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with dear life and every single time that I need to make like an old school

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system for whatever reason I just throw it in to be like yeah now there's no RAM

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problems instantly I can stack it with like

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however many other sticks I want it's still usually more than half of the RAM

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in the whole system it's just so epic

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that's awesome I don't know if I have any I don't know if I have any old okay

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probably my thrustmaster top gun so that joystick is is like legendary for

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me other than that you know I wish I wish I still had

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my monitor my CRT monitor so for those

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of you who knew CRT monitors I had a P95 f+b from bonic which was aperture Grill

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so it wasn't using that um whatever it was Shadow mask I think was the other

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competing technology so aperture Grill was one of those things where you know

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there was a lot of debate on the forums should I get an aperture Grill monitor

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should I not because the aperture Grill causes two faint lines at about the top

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third of the screen and the bottom third of the screen that allow the picture to

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be much more square and much more clear for the flat screen

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but actually caus those lines to be visible to you so people are like who I

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couldn't get used to it or people are like oh I didn't even see it after two

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three years so I took the plunge I got myself an aperture girl monitor I loved

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that monitor one of my siblings took a quarter to

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it never told me how it died the anti- glare Coating in the middle there was

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nothing wrong with the monitor so I got a replacement from view Sonic it was

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terrible it was like a refurbished this was when CRTs were not even really in

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production anymore they got me the replacement when I was just like this is

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unusable so I pwned it off for cheap and

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uh and that was the end of my P95 f+b and that was when I made the switch very

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begrudgingly to LCD and I moved to uh an

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Acer 1916 W that 1440 by uh 900 was it I

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don't remember I I don't remember it was like uh it was like whatever the

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resolution was it was like super low res and I was just like oh it's WID screen

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really small and I don't have a lot of desktop room like slow clap

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myself so I blew like $ 6700 on a 2405

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fpw and then that's the one that is still running on my wife's computer it's

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starting to die though is it yeah I'm super sad I haven't noticed I haven't

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spent like any time on it but I haven't noticed the edges are yellowing oh yeah

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well it's cathod backlit so guys for those of you who don't know an LED

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screen is not a thing okay I'm G let

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that sync in for a minute that's why it's LCD LED yeah but people don't no I

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know that people are like oh I want an LED monitor an LED monitor would be like

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a lightboard like one of those Billboards that that's an LED monitor

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trust me you don't want one of those or an OLED monitor would could technically

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yeah yeah cuz that's an organic light so that would technically be an LED monitor

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and that would be balling but we can't buy those yet no or we can but money

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yeah we have to be like a sultan of like Malaysia or something and then we can

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mount our OLED monitors in all of our cars they can go clear right uh oh there

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was one on display at CES that was transpar that was transparent put it as

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your windshield yeah that would be illegal I'm sure in any country anywhere

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why what do you mean why because you could overlay like your speed and

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everything or you could overlay a television show what if you could like

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software mod it so that it forces to not show things on certain parts of the

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screen so of course someone yeah okay I was going to say if someone handed you a

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car that had a software limited screen

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in the windshield what's the first thing you would do I'm not going to go into

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that topic but that would be really

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cool yay I want a screen right so LED

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screens and LCD screens are not different things so an LCD is a liquid

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crystal display it's a panel okay so it's thin it's thin it just goes at the

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front and then uh ccfl or um fluorescent

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those are the same thing okay so fluorescent lights go behind it and

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shine through the LCD panel or you can

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have an array of LED lights that shine through the LCD panel so that's the

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difference so anyway it's an older fluorescent LCD monitor and what happens

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to them is you can actually replace the cathodes I don't know if you knew that y

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but you can replace the cathod but it's probably not worth it at this point

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actually maybe it's probably really expensive 24 in VA panel though was a

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very well-regarded monitor at the time do you think there might just be like stock hanging around I don't know I

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don't know if I'd be able to get uh to get fluorescent tube looking into that

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would be a fun video actually if you find they're so cheap now you can get an

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LC you can get an LED backl LCD for like

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nothing now and the advantage of LED is that they don't fade over time they

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don't yellow over time and they last for a really long time which brings us

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gracefully back to Tesla and NVIDIA's

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upcoming replacement GeForce card um so

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Tesla is used for uh compute

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applications for cloud gaming and they want to take failed Tesla course which

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doesn't mean failed so it's binning

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process yes the binning process is the key here so you can have a Tesla spec

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that goes whatever gigahertz whatever

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memory bus uh whatever okay so that's the only thing

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most people think about is what speed does it run at no there's way more than

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that because for applications like compute where they're installing these

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in blades they're going to have very strict power and heat guidelines so

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there could be a chip that runs at 2 GHz at stock voltage but if it's hot like a

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mofo it's totally unusable something can

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be hot like a mofo

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I'm hot like a mofa actually I'm really cold right now

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I could use a jacket but the food's like frozen I know you microwaved yours but I

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bet it's cold now yes the potatoes are

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like solid but anyways um uh so the

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binning process why don't you get into the binning process while I it's not

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that show them how of us well it's pretty cold it's not that cold it's not

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as cold as like two days ago it's 12° in here and you're in a T-shirt shirt nice

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which sort of is more of a reflection on your wisdom and planning than it is on

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the temperature I don't think it's that cold though I don't know I think it's

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pretty cold we have the lights pointed at us though that's probably helping a little bit although they're fluorescent

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lights so that's a thing they don't really heat out that much if we had the

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ones from the ntx studio here oh that would H ridiculous so the other light

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main light technology is incandescent which means basically

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fire what it means um so that's where

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something is just glowing so white hot

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and so bright that it throws light all over everything around it those are hot

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compared to ccfls which are hot compared

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to L LEDs are you just checking to make sure the audio is actually good because

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I never checked uh yes that's a good idea I have the twitch chat open here

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too okay well maybe open that I was also going to bring up the list of companies

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and what games and uh groups were

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purchased good thinking I'll do some twiter questions except I got to finish this NVIDIA topic that I've been really

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struggling to actually manage to finish sounds

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good so the new card coming is going to be a replacement for the 690 it's going

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to be failed Tesla cores which doesn't mean they're failed it could mean that

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they run at a slightly higher power envelope which is fine when you can

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throw a big old dual slot cooler on it in like a nice well ventilated gaming

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chassis so no big deal and we're

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expecting this to be an enormous well I'm expecting it to be based B on sort

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of the leaked specs that have been seen and based on what we know actually not

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even leaked specs based on what we know about Tesla specs this thing should be a

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huge generational boost in performance so this was this core was

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ready back when NVIDIA was launching GTX

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680 but for whatever reason whether it was due to the competitive landscape

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whether it was due to the yields on this gigantic die it's very expensive to

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manufacture for a number of reasons so whether it was due to the yields whether

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it was due to just it being very

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difficult there being very few production lines that could actually manufacture this monstrosity they held

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it back from the GeForce line and have only been using it for Tesla I think it

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only recently made it to cuadro as well is that

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correct I think that was a while back that it made it to Quadro not that long

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ago though correct me if I'm wrong though guys um so I'm really excited

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because I'm not a huge fan of dual GPU Solutions I don't like the inconsistency

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of their performance so the way that in some games they'll be like this when you

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compare to sort of a better single card you know if you go dual GPU okay

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sometimes it's here sometimes it's here sometimes it's here because you're paying more for it um and there's just

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more General like if if there's a game that runs perfectly on all

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configurations except one you know all single cards run I pretty much guarantee

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you it's all the single card configs that work and some dual card

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configuration that doesn't work because it's a lot more complicated to code the

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drivers for it so really excited about another truly high-end GPU that's using

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a single GPU uh high-end graphics card using a single GPU and what that'll mean

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for well for for everyone um are you

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ready to join me for another of our main discussion topics or should I do some Twitter chat um I almost found it okay

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let's do some Twitter Q&A then guys I'm going to go ahead and switch over to

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Twitter and 121 new

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interactions uh my speakers make some kind of strange high pitch pop every few

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minutes any idea uh could be your phone if your phone is sitting near your

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speakers and they're unshielded then there's a chance that you'll get some interference from them from your phone

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whenever it's receiving or sending cellular data uh yes we will be covering

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the THQ bankruptcy soon that's actually what Slick's compiling his uh his

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numbers for what's that a pen you need a pen I have 15 pens you can

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have so funny that one uh I might have one in my pocket you

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can reach in and get it if you want no I got nothing that's a

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shame so close and yet so far do we

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really not have a single you know all the technology in the world and uh we

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don't have a single pen it's cool you can go do problem

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you're good okay I'm doing Twitter Q&A

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then okay more Twitter Q&A would you

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recommend the EVGA sr2 or SRX for

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hardcore editing SL mid highish end gaming on the side actually yes that is

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one of the only usage scenarios where I would genuinely recommend an SRX because

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it is not useful for gaming mark my words slower for gaming than a than an

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LG 1155 platform with a 3570k on it

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especially if you're overclocking so there's that but if you can take

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advantage of all of those cores and all those threads I mean I'm super stoked to

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see what an SRX with Ivy Bridge e in it I want to see I've actually been able to

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work with an SRX in real life really there's the issue for me is there's not

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many cases or I probably would have bought an sr2 can the 900 do it uh yes

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900d will do it but the 900 will not that's what I meant remember the 900d

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and the 900 are completely different things much the same way that the 300

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are and the 300 are different things although like where did Corsair get this

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naming strategy from they both have 600s although the corsairs has a T and anex

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does not what other numbers of overlap 600 do I think they both have a 200 is

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there yeah low an yeah I think there's a carbide carbide 200 of some sort 200 r

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or something like that yeah there you go so uh so Corsair when they re when they

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iterate the 800d and the 900d a couple more times they'll have an 1100 as

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well not really not sure where I was going with this cloud gaming will never

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fully take over there's a reason we're called Enthusiast building computers is a hobby for many good for you but you're

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wrong uh cloud gaming will take over and there will be nothing left of Enthusiast

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there will be old games or like Indie Games it's like it's like saying um it's

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like saying Super Nintendo is never going to die because there are

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enthusiasts and there will always it'll always be there and you're right in fact

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I think the most recent Super Nintendo game was made only a couple years ago or

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something like that like yeah there's still guys coding games for Super

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Nintendo and finding ways to like flash the ROMs onto cartridges and play them

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and like you said with Indie Games there always be like Kickstarter they're going

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to release and then stretch goals will always be like local platform local

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platform or right now it's like Linux Linux Linux there will always be like

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that that that push where there will be a few options for it but um yeah it's

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going away mainstream mark my words 10

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years from now you probably won't have any good reason to still have a

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dedicated gaming computer uh but there come on guys okay

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here here's another thing too is don't worry too about it because there's going

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to be lots of stuff to Tinker with like

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there's going to be lots of cool stuff that we can play with as enthusiasts I

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mean that's like saying you know uh oh

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you know the uh the desktop PC is never never going away because phones will

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never take over ra ra ra the reality of it is we all have awesome smartphones

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that we all use to play games and we all use to do all kinds of things and they

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are coexisting that's okay so your local platform that you play your indie games

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or whatever will coexist but you will have some kind of a cloud service maybe

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10 years is optimistic especially for certain countries like I think in places

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like Japan where infrastructure costs nothing in places like Europe where the

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population density is so high compared to how how long did you say you think

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it's going to take I said 10 years I think that's optimistic that's like I

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think it'll take longer than that yeah no exactly 100% sure think yeah it'll

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probably be more like 20 before we actually don't need it'll be a long time

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so it'll be a long time so don't worry it'll be a long time and the transition

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will be smooth well smoothish nothing's ever smooth nothing ever works that's

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rule number one of tech tips thank you for joining us live Beno Beno Beno

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please boost to 1080p up from 900p I'm

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tired of see seeing people ask what it is please boost to 1080p plus up from

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900p I'm sorry I don't understand stream in 900 I don't think we're streaming in

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900p um I don't think I can check right now

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though resolution oh what the heck we're

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streaming in600 by 900 why are we stream okay sorry guys

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there's nothing I can really do right now about that the profile must

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transfer okay it's all Slick's fault because he was using uh he was using my

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Twitch account to test some things when he was streaming some game last night

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and his monitor is 1680 by 1050 which

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because you know X splits awesome and doesn't acknowledge 1600 by or 16x 10

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resolutions which I understand I understand it's it's a streaming

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platform for I'm getting new monitors slick says he's getting new monitors I

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don't I'll believe it when I see it so sorry about that guys we will uh we will

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have to deal with uh we'll have to deal with that another

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time um Australia Day cool watching from

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the UK awesome when will The Sweep stakes be over you know what I haven't

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talked to Lou from unbox there anytime soon

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um or anytime recently so hopefully we'll be doing the gaming peripherals

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giveaway very very soon I have them sitting in my waiting to ship stuff out

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pile over there so it's uh we'll ship it out as soon as as soon as we uh we get

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together and uh and do like a random.org choice for a winner so that's good uh

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Tech Team GB says they saw my my story post on my Forum uh they wondered what

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what I recommend for new reviewers um I think pretty much everything I have to

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say is is in that post um if you if you

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go on the liniste tips.com Forum and search for my story or something like

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that basically I just posted I've talked about it on the live streams before so

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if you've been following for a while then then you'll already know but uh I

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posted sort of how I got into making YouTube videos and how my career has has

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started and sort of continued to evolve

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and uh slick is now prepared with our next main topic so let's do a few more

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Twitter Q&A things talk about the diaper

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video um I don't know what there is to talk about on the diaper video but it is

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what it is I mean babies don't really they don't really care they don't really

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have any shame have you heard about the

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8350 um versus 3570 disagreement going

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on between Logan and some neck beards no I haven't I yeah he posted a bunch of

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videos saying that the 8350 beats 3570k

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oh well it doesn't yeah I know oh okay I'm so that we're clear it I haven't I

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haven't actually watched his videos um but I think it's like certain I think

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what he's actually trying to say is that it wins in very specific use cases well

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I saw the title of his video but I didn't watch it it was something to do with Twitch streaming and gaming I have

00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:51.640
no idea what he was aiming at so if you're if you are if you're in an

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environment where um where you actually have a lot

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of multi-threaded junk going on in the background like if you have like three

00:25:00.159 --> 00:25:05.559
people Skyping in and you have Windows of them here here and here and then

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you're streaming from the corner while you're playing a game and you're doing like a stream like that where it's very

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CPU intensive because it's encoding multiple streams then something like an

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8350 could pull ahead of a 3570k because

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all them cores yeah because all them cores but uh in sort of the well in

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situations that most people would encounter that's not really going to

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happen like we just said though we haven't seen his video you should have

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yeah hi Winnipeg sorry hate sucks to be you man um you should have Skype callers

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on your live stream you know what it's something that we might do at some point

00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:42.399
with like uh you know having like diesel join us for example but it'll be a it

00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:46.159
probably won't happen where we'll take actual live viewers as callers because

00:25:44.520 --> 00:25:50.279
Twitter is a much more manageable way for us to interact with the

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audience uh talk about Intel said they'll stop making desktop CPUs after

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let's see let's see what they say although actually okay before we do that

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I have another topic Intel is oh my

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goodness I have I have two more that are awesome yeah that one too so let's start

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with let's start with Intel uh is not going to make desktop boards anymore

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yeah heard about that y they were never that huge in the motherboard Market

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though in some markets it was different was it yes in markets where CU Intel's

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strength more than well okay they technology so technology here you know

00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:27.320
probably branding here and then strength number three I guess if I had to pick

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one this is off the top of my head so they probably have more strength I mean Intel is just like you know if they had

00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:38.960
eight arms sticking out of them they'd all be going like this right um but

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their distribution Network yeah because

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you can buy an Intel CPU anywhere

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anywhere yeah so especially years ago

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when ASUS or DFI or biostar or whatever

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DFI and biostar yeah or like markets where ASUS didn't have a lot of

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penetration very lowcost markets Intel was actually seen as a premium brand

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because compared to the other garbage you could buy Intel was reliable it

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would work every time and and that was

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that so so Intel actually like is a thing well was a thing when it comes to

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motherboards but now that has uh that has all change so what does this mean

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I'll I'll take your thoughts first while I adjust the angle of the camera a little bit here because it's bugging me

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I wonder if they'll be quite so strict on uh the specification for

00:27:25.360 --> 00:27:30.159
everything other than that I don't really think it's that big of a deal

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I don't know that's really all I have to say that's all you have to say about

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Intel not doing motherboards anymore I don't think it's that big of a deal I was never even interested in it

00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:44.840
motherboards but that's not the point what does it mean for the market we've

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Consolidated down from okay here I'm

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going to name all the motherboard makers I can think of from when I was an

00:27:48.360 --> 00:27:52.960
Enthusiast at the very beginning okay so

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like like I'm talking branded motherboard makers where you could actually go to a store or an online

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website and buy it so

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ECS biostar

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foxcon soultech MSI ASUS

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Gigabyte EVGA what are some of the other crazy

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chain Tech chain

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DFI um what else was there probably missing

00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:30.120
some I'm probably missing a bunch but we're now down to oh Intel right Intel

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is another one

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um I'm sure there's it's probably blowing up with a whole bunch that we

00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:43.559
just missed but those are pretty much all the ones I remember yeah so so at least at least a

00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:50.120
dozen guys like existed around the in the socket a era and one by one they've

00:28:47.399 --> 00:28:55.240
gradually just started a bit there's another one a bit uh there's 13 that's

00:28:53.399 --> 00:29:00.000
happened with everything though every single piece consolidation so 13 I name

00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:03.480
from when I was actually I don't know if I can count EVGA because I don't think

00:29:01.760 --> 00:29:08.880
they overlapped with soultech so let's say at least 12 active ones at a time so

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now we're down without Intel we're down to uh oh asrock's another one 14 of

00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:18.000
course yeah azrock so lots of guys so

00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:26.559
now we're down to ASUS Gigabyte as like a clear one two then MSI as a clear

00:29:22.320 --> 00:29:28.200
number three and then ASRock which who

00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:32.720
may or may not there was a rumor that ASUS is going to reacquire ASRock

00:29:30.159 --> 00:29:37.440
because that's asrock's origin so that would leave us with three Intel will be

00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:40.960
gone biostar and ECS are still out there but they're just making lowend stuff and

00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.600
I can tell you the margins are not good like it just won't make any sense at

00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:49.559
some point and they'll just abandon making Standalone boards evg is still

00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:54.320
making evj is still making motherboards but I know that their volumes are not as

00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:58.399
high as someone like ASUS and the margin's not there because they have to

00:29:55.919 --> 00:30:02.600
get someone else to make it for them like whether it's foxcon or orus or

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:07.600
Gigabyte or whoever else they evj is not a manufacturer of

00:30:05.159 --> 00:30:12.679
motherboards so that leaves us with what maybe six guys that are still active

00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:16.960
now I mean CH that's happened with everything though seriously there's

00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:19.919
still a lot of video card guys yeah but quite a few of them have fallen too

00:30:18.600 --> 00:30:26.840
still a lot of peripheral guys if anything there's probably more peripheral is yeah monitors still Lots

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:30.760
although there might have been more uh look at gaming Studios looking at our

00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:36.240
next topic yeah gaming Studios that has happened like crazy look at the volume

00:30:33.360 --> 00:30:39.880
of just EA look at what they've like eaten and consumed and destroyed and

00:30:38.679 --> 00:30:44.480
left dead well they don't leave everything

00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:47.159
dead EA has good stuff the Sims is kind of

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:54.720
awesome wasn't that originally their title yeah

00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:56.120
yeah no um NHL 2013 was that originally

00:30:54.720 --> 00:31:00.600
their title which almost didn't happen wasn't that originally their title

00:30:59.080 --> 00:31:03.039
who have they consumed that has like came out

00:31:08.679 --> 00:31:17.279
well because I think they were working on uh Mass Effect one when they acquired

00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:22.600
BioWare and I think they were working on Dragon Age one so those games were

00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:25.919
released more from just BioWare standpoint and then Dragon Age 2 came

00:31:24.639 --> 00:31:32.320
out I know you haven't played it but like I bought it was it bad

00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:34.120
oh hated that game L Dragon Age 1 did

00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:38.039
not like Dragon Age 2 you can't go anywhere it's just like oh I got to the

00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:40.880
main city and I'm just in the main city and any quests that are outside the main

00:31:39.360 --> 00:31:46.639
city I get to teleport to and then teleport back it's sweet that's so G so

00:31:44.760 --> 00:31:52.279
boring I mean for me one of the best parts of any kind of an RPG Style game

00:31:49.360 --> 00:31:57.559
is getting to the next town and like finding all the weird random stuff like

00:31:55.320 --> 00:32:02.960
like the the chicken that you can throw down hole or whatever in Zelda or like

00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:06.000
or like or like the house that you go into in Final Fantasy 6 where the

00:32:04.600 --> 00:32:10.799
music's different so you know there's going to be like a cooky old man in there the the chicken at the very

00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:15.960
beginning of Skyrim you run up and hit it the whole town freaking goes crazy on

00:32:13.360 --> 00:32:20.360
you like like just awesome little things like that's so cool Mass Effect uh Mass

00:32:18.840 --> 00:32:24.840
Effect 3 came out my brother and I were both like oh we haven't played Mass

00:32:21.919 --> 00:32:28.679
Effect series at all let's not read anything cuz everyone hated Mass Effect

00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:32.919
3 but we just refuse to read anything cuz we're like we'll catch up right both

00:32:30.399 --> 00:32:37.039
played Mass Effect one both absolutely loved it awesome game loved that game it

00:32:35.159 --> 00:32:43.679
was great picked up Mass Effect 2 I'm playing on PC I quit in like 15 minutes

00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:46.360
that's it they they put everything on

00:32:43.679 --> 00:32:49.679
like you can tell it was Hardcore made for a controller and if you go into the

00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:54.000
key bindings to rebind things it's like oh yeah I rebind three moves onto one

00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:56.840
button on your keyboard what why it's like no I don't want like I don't

00:32:55.120 --> 00:33:03.440
remember them all but it's like jump and open and like do this other thing all my

00:32:59.159 --> 00:33:04.440
space bar it's like no use is e what are

00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:09.679
you doing use can be F or F or whatever like

00:33:08.159 --> 00:33:12.320
you can bind it to whatever you want right like could be

00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:18.360
you wow you know what I mean though yes

00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:21.880
like being able to keybind specific abilities is like kind of important and

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:27.279
they put it all on single buttons I like screw this you know what I love about

00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:29.440
like proper PC games like Quake 3 okay

00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:35.039
awesome when got a widescreen monitor I was like okay go into the inii

00:33:32.399 --> 00:33:38.679
file key in a value for field of view it's just like bloop key in a value for

00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:42.760
resolution done it doesn't matter how old and

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:47.480
crappy it is if the game developer actually properly makes it customizable

00:33:45.080 --> 00:33:52.279
and it it can't be that much work they just port and forget how much work is it

00:33:50.840 --> 00:33:58.399
it's like built-in bench marking utilities how much work is it to record

00:33:54.760 --> 00:34:01.120
a stupid time demo

00:33:58.399 --> 00:34:07.240
come on like how much publicity does a game developer who produces a benchmark

00:34:04.120 --> 00:34:09.960
for their game get from everyone

00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:14.240
everywhere benchmarking their game like what was that um what was that game

00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:20.960
where the Benchmark was like the big monster that comes out and like does

00:34:17.879 --> 00:34:22.760
stuff uh I'm not going to be able to

00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:26.960
think of it ah I can't think of it either we should like segue from that

00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:32.639
and talk about whether or not people want those videos Planet 2 was that it yeah that was the one Lost

00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:35.800
Planet 2 it's like I wouldn't have even considered playing that game cuz I just

00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:41.320
didn't care and didn't have the time around that time but then there's a benchmark but there's a benchmark so you

00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:44.800
see it on every review site for every video card and if your benchmark it

00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:47.960
looks if your benchmark looks good enough which it should everyone's going

00:34:46.520 --> 00:34:52.119
to go oh that looks cool I want to play that game super easy to get super easy

00:34:50.359 --> 00:34:56.320
adver how much work is that anyway you know what before we go on to the THQ

00:34:55.040 --> 00:35:01.560
acquisition what's up we should talk about benchmarking view if people want

00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:02.839
it okay Right Far Cry 3 okay um let's

00:35:01.560 --> 00:35:11.560
take some let's go have a look at Twitter really quick here to see if anyone was able to come up with uh with

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:14.720
any that uh that EA hasn't

00:35:11.560 --> 00:35:16.280
wrecked uh here we go yeah same

00:35:14.720 --> 00:35:22.720
experience as slick playing Mass Effect 2 he kept playing though because uh GIS

00:35:18.720 --> 00:35:23.800
was sexy GIS is pretty awesome Slick's

00:35:22.720 --> 00:35:29.440
in agreement with you if you can't hear him I know the shotgun mic's pretty directional sorry I'm late was

00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:33.320
installing a pass VGA cool my 6870 good luck with that I hope you have some airf

00:35:30.839 --> 00:35:39.200
flow Logan attributed two unreleased Windows 7 updates for the reason why

00:35:35.359 --> 00:35:40.640
8350 pulled ahead no uh I think you

00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:44.800
should check out Singularity computers he's a custom builder okay uh what about

00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:48.040
Texas Instruments no they were never in motherboards should try Firefall it's

00:35:46.839 --> 00:35:53.880
free for two days um wish I had time I'm going to go

00:35:51.160 --> 00:35:57.680
in and do other things like work when I'm done this my 13-year-old friend is

00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:04.280
getting a gaming PC and wants an i7 could you convince him he doesn't need an i7 uh he doesn't need one an i7 is

00:36:01.520 --> 00:36:07.880
not a bad idea send him at the forums get him to go into the Bild Planning

00:36:05.720 --> 00:36:11.040
Group y those guys are really good they know what they're doing send them to

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:19.560
linest Tech tips.com we are streaming on the xa1 hi from the UK hello hey

00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:22.640
hello uh agreed exploration for the win

00:36:19.560 --> 00:36:24.839
yes sir or ma'am Zachary probably not a

00:36:22.640 --> 00:36:29.480
chick how many gigahertz can I get I don't know go for it find out that's

00:36:27.040 --> 00:36:33.000
half the fun yeah uh IBM probably manufactured their own boards at some

00:36:30.720 --> 00:36:37.079
point but I was talking branded and he's talking when he was into it very

00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:41.440
specifically like but like branded in a retail box marked with the brand uh

00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:45.520
Zotac and foxcon that's right Zotac does still make motherboards although it's

00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:49.920
very Niche like very Niche I mean I was also wasn't talking about super micro

00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:54.720
and tyan either so Zotac basically just ITX

00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:56.000
boards um when my comp sleeps it

00:36:54.720 --> 00:36:59.480
undetect the storage drive I have to restart to be able to play games we're

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.359
having a similar issue with our benchmarking platform which is using an

00:37:01.040 --> 00:37:07.359
ice scuzzy disc that's a little bit different because ice scy disc sort of different okay any update on the build

00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:10.960
I'm waiting for Mountain mods to ship me back my stuff want to put KN to a fans

00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:16.040
on my build but I don't like the color any good way to paint it and will it affect performance painting it will

00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:21.040
affect the balance and could even affect the shape slightly paint is not um

00:37:18.680 --> 00:37:24.760
insignificant it does have thickness if I was really going to go all out and I

00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:28.839
was going to really try to put Noctua fans in a system I would try and figure

00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:32.160
out some way to to dye the plastic because that's probably a better way to

00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:39.000
do it without adding any weight or any bulk or any uh or affecting the balance

00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:40.480
because balance is everything with a

00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:44.079
high quality fan have you ever actually done that though no or heard of anyone

00:37:42.319 --> 00:37:47.720
doing that no because how would you dye it properly how' you dye plastic you'd

00:37:46.359 --> 00:37:51.760
have to no because the motor's in there you'd have to you'd have to um put like

00:37:49.839 --> 00:37:55.520
some kind of a waterproof thing that would be hard that' be really cool but

00:37:53.119 --> 00:38:00.000
that' be a cool mod though black KN to a fans like custom made cuz I love to us

00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:03.599
but they only work in systems like that like the I guess you can't see can't see

00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.240
that so green C70 it looks really military it looks really cool throw a

00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:11.520
saber-tooth in there and it just looks awesome our live stream setup is a Canon

00:38:08.720 --> 00:38:16.400
XA 10 we've got a road shotgun mic on it um we're streaming to a black magic

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:21.800
intensity Pro capture card we're using xsplit and we've got a 3770 with like 8

00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:27.880
gigs of RAM as our as our streaming computer running on Onboard video

00:38:25.040 --> 00:38:33.160
watching from sa where's SA South Arizona I think there's probably

00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:37.839
more than one San Antonio and we have fans from around the world South Africa

00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:43.160
South America shout out to all of those places hello everybody

00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:48.760
um uh there there will probably be a new Chips side it'll probably be like

00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:51.599
Z87 or something I know I'm going out on

00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:57.839
a limb there whoa lus calm down that was creative

00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:04.599
also in the snow yes snow shout out to

00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:06.760
you too editing dual aha dual well

00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:11.560
neither editing you don't need either of those things you need one Cuda capable

00:39:09.160 --> 00:39:18.480
core and preferably a Quadro if you're using Premier Pro PC chips ah yes PC

00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:22.839
chips there you go that's another one motherboard manufacturer low end stuff

00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:26.079
okay uh what temperature is dangerous for laptops internal Hardware I'd say

00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.960
anything above 80 to 85 degrees is probably getting into not too

00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:33.680
comfortable Zone laptops are usually pretty well like they know what they're

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:37.359
building they're usually cooled enough no updates on the Intel smartphones we

00:39:35.560 --> 00:39:41.200
did talk about them a little bit at CES the one thing that the that the guys in

00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:45.760
the booth did mention to us though was that especially the lower cost one was

00:39:43.720 --> 00:39:49.800
aimed more at developing markets and not so much as a North American thing so

00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:53.599
it's got like good performance but quite inexpensive so they were aiming to get

00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:59.200
smartphones down to sort of a few hundred Price Point again uh utilizing

00:39:56.720 --> 00:40:05.319
what you're talking about with the uh distribution networks they know where

00:40:01.520 --> 00:40:08.599
they can push so might as well

00:40:05.319 --> 00:40:10.880
mhm speaking of

00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:17.119
phones I have officially switched to an HTC 8X I'm running Windows 8 phone

00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:21.599
247 and I'm going to do it for at least 30 days before I decide whether I'm

00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:26.040
going back to iOS and how's that going for you so far I have a list of

00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:31.560
frustrations actually maybe tomorrow or Monday we should film part two of my I

00:40:29.640 --> 00:40:35.359
switched blog so you can check it out on the lus tech tips YouTube channel if you

00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:39.520
haven't seen it already I did a day one one where I went through and everything

00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:43.440
that bothered me on day one or everything I thought was cool on day one

00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:46.839
is all in there and then I have a huge list of notes that's going to make up

00:40:45.359 --> 00:40:51.400
the next couple videos where I'm it's going to be sort of everything that happened before day three and everything

00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.440
that happened between kind of day three in day 15 and then I'll probably do one

00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:59.960
more at the end of 30 days where I let you guys know based on my experience am

00:40:57.720 --> 00:41:04.560
I going to switch back to iOS or am I going to stick with Windows Phone 8 I'm

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:08.960
not going Android for all of you who are about to suggest that I buy a Galaxy S3

00:41:06.720 --> 00:41:13.400
he refused to try it he grabbed Windows Phone 8 which is like still being

00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:17.960
developed for pretty hardcore because it's like oh I've seen his list of notes

00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.680
and there's a lot of stuff that's just like really like the auto rotate thing

00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:28.280
yeah that one's pretty frustrating you cannot cannot turn off auto rotate on

00:41:25.319 --> 00:41:33.440
Windows 8 Windows Phone 8 and not wrong I can hear you all rushing to your

00:41:30.520 --> 00:41:38.560
keyboards and Googling it Windows Phone 8 does not support disabling auto rotate

00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:42.560
so if you're using the phone in bed and you want to use it in portrait mode you

00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.560
cannot do that it will switch to landscape mode on you so then you'll

00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.560
flip it again and it'll go back to portrait mode and then you'll flip it

00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:53.599
again and you'll end up in this endless cycle of flipping the phone around not

00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.760
knowing what's going on and what's up and what's down for people that tuned in

00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:01.839
last week my keyboard works that was weird the cable completely

00:42:00.520 --> 00:42:06.760
broke like it doesn't work on anything else and the driver got messed up at the

00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:11.880
exact same time so well was probably to do with the broken cable like fing

00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:16.599
things up maybe yeah um so I had to pitch that cable

00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.880
and and he stole my C I stole your cable

00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:25.400
I gave it back did you give my cable back yeah okay cuz I was going to have to charge you for that I'm using

00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:29.760
the I'm using the detachable cable from my quickfire because the quickfire is

00:42:27.160 --> 00:42:34.520
detachable cable is awesome it's like sleeved and golden tipped and just sweet

00:42:33.040 --> 00:42:38.880
so I just shoved it on my ducky and I'm good to go now all right you know what I

00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:43.839
want to talk let's talk more consolidation before we do this one okay

00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:47.200
um well we didn't get any EA answers because I think we scrolled down oh yeah

00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.760
did anyone actually manage you asked a question and then you clicked on the

00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:55.559
comments right away so no one had time to answer it oh okay Intel doesn't make

00:42:52.839 --> 00:43:00.760
mother I hope they still do Nicks Logan lus says you're wrong about the 83 50 uh

00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:05.520
we we have we have we have done a fair bit of testing on that and like I said

00:43:03.680 --> 00:43:09.880
if he's in a particular scenario and maybe Far Cry 3

00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:15.960
is an exception maybe we should do Far Cry 3 testing so so hold hold off guys

00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:18.160
don't sort of he's wrong in the context

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:22.440
of most games and anything we've ever tested but if he's found a scenario

00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:27.960
where the 8350 comes out ahead we haven't seen his video yes so

00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:30.800
there that's a factor we can't actually say he's wrong cuz we haven't seen his

00:43:29.160 --> 00:43:36.359
video slick your thoughts on the Elder SCS MMO while I eat I am excited and

00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:40.839
very very fearful at the same time okay if none of you guys know they released a

00:43:38.520 --> 00:43:44.160
beta sign up I've been like too nervous to write the ridiculous essay that I'm

00:43:42.839 --> 00:43:49.319
going to write for why I should be chosen for this beta I'm actually going

00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.359
to sit down tomorrow for like an hour or two and like properly script the whole

00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:57.160
thing I didn't have time for this and I know you're really really good at

00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:59.760
like like you took English in University so I'm probably going to send it to you

00:43:58.680 --> 00:44:02.599
what did you take I thought you took English I skipped

00:44:03.520 --> 00:44:07.760
it anyways I know you're good at that

00:44:06.680 --> 00:44:12.400
kind of write up so I'm going to send it to you when I'm done to edit it and I'll

00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:17.000
get you to edit it somehow um hate you you're fired and then I'm

00:44:15.319 --> 00:44:21.520
going to hand that in I'm super freaking stoked and scared as hell at the same

00:44:19.160 --> 00:44:26.240
time because some of the stuff that I've read has been like oh God you're going

00:44:23.640 --> 00:44:31.119
to destroy everything but then later on they're like hey we listened to our fans

00:44:28.040 --> 00:44:33.160
and changed it so it could they're

00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.119
actually listening and like I've seen quite a few videos if you check out the

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:40.520
interview videos and stuff they're like hey we go on this forum we go on this

00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:44.920
forum we go on this forum we read everything that gets posted under these

00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:48.200
forums on these specific like sticky topics and stuff we read everything and

00:44:47.160 --> 00:44:55.839
they pay attention to what people are saying so they have been fixing things that are like holy crap that's bad so

00:44:53.800 --> 00:45:02.040
I'm actually really excited I've been a huge fan of every single Elder Scrolls

00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:04.640
game ever uh mowind is like by far and

00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:08.400
large way above everything else in my L of favorite G nothing is far and large

00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:12.680
if it was far and large then that's the same as it being close and

00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:16.960
normal no because what if it's like a skyscraper it can be far and large and

00:45:14.720 --> 00:45:24.440
close and large

00:45:19.160 --> 00:45:26.720
touche anyways um it is by far and

00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:29.880
large my personal favorite game ever I've my like list of games that I just

00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:35.599
absolutely love and morwin just completely trump card you've also never played any of my favorite games Final

00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:39.640
Fantasy 6 TI fighter fin Fantasy 6 I haven't played TIE fighter I will I will

00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:44.319
go back and play them I seriously doubt they will beat morwin though prob

00:45:42.079 --> 00:45:49.359
probably not probably not one of my spring breaks in high school I spent

00:45:47.319 --> 00:45:55.559
pretty much the entire duration on the couch in front of my TV playing morn

00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:57.920
almost the entire time I love that game

00:45:55.559 --> 00:46:01.040
and i' I've said my story before about figuring out the main quest so I'm not

00:45:59.720 --> 00:46:05.280
going to bother repeat that but yeah amazing I'm stoked for Elder schols MMO

00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:10.319
but like I just said I'm worried too so I hope it comes out well I think it'll come out well but it's probably about

00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:14.720
time for a Changing of the Guard I mean what do we have Guild Wars 2 Warcraft

00:46:12.680 --> 00:46:17.800
the 16th or whatever expansion pack they're on now okay I was going to say

00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.240
expansion yeah still technically the same one yeah but come on I mean it's

00:46:20.680 --> 00:46:26.480
such a different game compared to what it was when it launched completely yeah

00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:30.040
it's ridiculous well but that's good that's probably what's kept it fresh

00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:34.520
that's probably what's kept subscribers too because at the beginning it was it

00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:37.240
actually oh people might hate me for this I think at the beginning it was a

00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:41.839
little bit more hardcore and at the beginning you had to have a 40-man raid

00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:46.440
group to do raids so you needed this like huge network of people all the

00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:49.680
servers were self-contained at the very beginning there was no Battlegrounds so

00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:53.480
all I don't even know what a Battleground is so like there's like a

00:46:51.839 --> 00:46:57.240
capture the flag one and there's like a whole King of the never mind anyways at

00:46:55.839 --> 00:47:01.839
the beginning you needed 40 people if you wanted to raid there was World PVP

00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:05.680
that was it and it's all contained on your own server so you knew like all the

00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:08.800
top guilds on your server you knew like the top dudes of the top Guild on your

00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:12.520
server because there's only like three really big guilds on the server so you

00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.680
know everyone when you go into PVP if it's you know the guys you're fighting

00:47:14.520 --> 00:47:19.960
and like it's very possible that you've been in vent with them before even if they're on the other side people don't

00:47:18.680 --> 00:47:25.839
even use vent that much anymore it's Skype now anyways um like you knew

00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:29.280
everyone now it's massively across server and now when you look for an

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:32.920
instance you just like click a button and click join and a timer goes and then

00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:37.200
once it finds enough people it's just like join instance and you join in with people from other servers and stuff and

00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:41.160
you just leave when you're done so there's no like communication really

00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:45.800
like there used to be so it's more mainstream way more mainstream it's kind

00:47:43.200 --> 00:47:51.640
of weird I don't know I come from EverQuest days so new MMOs are just kind

00:47:48.680 --> 00:47:56.559
of icky to me I don't know uh what else we got but I'm still

00:47:54.280 --> 00:48:06.040
stoked for the Skyrim one or whoa ell schs one no one uh no one has managed

00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:07.960
to post anything so let's take that as

00:48:06.040 --> 00:48:13.440
no one thinks EA has ever acquired anything and not eared it I just saw a

00:48:11.520 --> 00:48:19.000
funny Twitter um D D D D D yeah I I see nothing

00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:24.200
someone apparently has the same steak knives as me okay so let's talk uh let's

00:48:22.160 --> 00:48:28.920
talk guys I don't know if you've know if you know this yet but lynxis so if you

00:48:27.240 --> 00:48:34.119
guys remember linkis used to be their own thing and then they were acquired by

00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.520
Cisco so any recent linkis router

00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:43.160
actually has a big Cisco on it and then like a little like linkis somewhere like

00:48:39.040 --> 00:48:46.440
maybe on the bottom um Cisco the deal is

00:48:43.160 --> 00:48:48.920
done has sold off the linkis in fact the

00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:54.760
entire consumer networking business unit to belon of all

00:48:51.680 --> 00:48:56.160
companies so Cisco gradually closed

00:48:54.760 --> 00:49:04.119
things down like flip I don't know if you guys remember flip video I mean that was doomed anyway just because phones

00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:06.440
were catching up so fast was like yeah

00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:12.599
I'm going to carry around a dedicated device to film crappy videos no offense

00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:17.920
to flip I made a video about the flip way back when and basically because you

00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:20.599
know I try not to you know if you don't have anything nice to say don't say

00:49:19.240 --> 00:49:25.200
anything at all is sort of the approach that I take but what I did do in the

00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:28.599
video was I showed a sample video shot with the flip or I shot another video

00:49:27.240 --> 00:49:35.720
with the flip so I let people make their own decision and what they think about the Flip's image quality but I had a

00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:43.760
Flip HD that I B from a friend to film uh me unboxing and talking about a

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:46.520
ducky 908 DK 2 you're such a

00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:51.400
dork if you can find that video prop this guy he does unboxings I don't know

00:49:48.640 --> 00:49:54.760
the account name to that YouTube I don't know the password to that mysterious

00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:59.720
account name to that YouTube so I can't help you find it but it's out there somewhere

00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:04.240
um I don't even know if I'm in it I think I just talk and like I'm holding

00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:09.240
it towards the thing oh so it's like one of those like um like the horrible P

00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:14.200
unboxing you can't see anything in like a dimly lit room and you're like oh yeah

00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:17.760
I'm really excited about this like mouth breathing into the

00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:23.000
camera so cool it's not even like it's pretty bad

00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:27.400
basically what I do is show off Blue switches that's basically what I did

00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:33.000
anyways yeah um that's why I had that flip and then I still have it because I

00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:38.400
haven't seen that guy since okay here we go hey someone defending EA EA acquired

00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:43.640
Criterion which are still alive and making happy you know what hold on we're not done with the links this thing so

00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:48.359
we'll go back to that hold on okay the look on your face kind of said it all

00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:50.160
but uh so guys you know what I'd love

00:50:48.359 --> 00:50:57.480
let's ah let's reach out to the twitch chat for a change I love you guys um so

00:50:53.920 --> 00:51:02.160
tell us what you think about the

00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:05.839
lynis uh the lynxis deal where they are

00:51:02.160 --> 00:51:08.520
being there we go where they are being

00:51:05.839 --> 00:51:13.400
acquired by Bellin just seems like such a strange

00:51:11.359 --> 00:51:18.319
thing so let's scroll down to the bottom someone just said I hate that Fallout 3

00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:20.760
doesn't work on Windows 7 it does fix it

00:51:18.319 --> 00:51:24.799
someone doesn't care someone loves bacon I think belin's a good company Cisco

00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:31.720
something bankrupt and something holy crap wow it now I remember why we don't

00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:35.319
use can't read it okay lynxis is the

00:51:31.720 --> 00:51:37.480
whole R uh okay you know what I give up

00:51:35.319 --> 00:51:40.760
can one of the mods put on slow mode ah it's okay we're

00:51:40.839 --> 00:51:49.319
done that that was pretty much it I mean for me belin's uh I mean okay so why did

00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:51.480
Cisco get rid of it because and see this

00:51:49.319 --> 00:51:56.240
is this is the thing that kind of kills me about the way business is done versus

00:51:54.040 --> 00:52:03.520
the way that uh a normal person might think make sense so Cisco has a certain

00:52:01.040 --> 00:52:08.720
profit margin that they have to maintain in order to please their shareholders

00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:12.240
and to make their numbers look good so it doesn't matter how much money they're

00:52:10.520 --> 00:52:17.160
making in general it's the percentages and everything it's it's making sure

00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:18.799
that those numbers all keep growing so

00:52:17.160 --> 00:52:22.400
you have to grow how much revenue you're doing you have to grow your profit

00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:25.559
margin you have to grow your market share you have to grow your unit sold

00:52:24.319 --> 00:52:28.920
you have to grow them all at the same time that's what gives shareholders a

00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:33.839
big happy smiley face and makes them invest money into your company so if I'm

00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:40.440
Cisco and I'm like okay so I own this linkis consumer consumer brand and they

00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:46.200
sell routers and maybe compared to Cisco equipment which

00:52:42.200 --> 00:52:48.240
has well into double digits margins on

00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:54.599
it oh yeah like well into double digits margins Because the actual bomb cost of

00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:57.480
a high-end Cisco switch is not this the

00:52:54.599 --> 00:53:01.079
opposite of that is peanuts compared to the development and the software that

00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:04.799
went into it so if they can sell once they're done developing the the thing if

00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:07.000
they can actually sell any of them then they're

00:53:09.240 --> 00:53:17.000
like and the thing is they'll probably sell quite a few yeah whereas with a

00:53:14.319 --> 00:53:20.839
consumer product okay you have to put in all that work developing it but you have

00:53:19.160 --> 00:53:26.160
to make it up in volume because you're not making more than maybe 20 30 points

00:53:23.160 --> 00:53:28.400
on actually selling the thing so and

00:53:26.160 --> 00:53:32.799
then you got to deal with retailers and they want all these backend programs and

00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:38.480
you got to deal with end users and they want all this you know you got people

00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:41.119
calling you and they're like um the

00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:46.359
lights aren't on did you plug it in well no my internet's not

00:53:43.839 --> 00:53:50.200
working um do you have internet is it the

00:53:47.520 --> 00:53:55.079
WPS does that open the port so that's the kind of thing that a

00:53:52.640 --> 00:53:59.200
company like Cisco is not really set up for or accustomed to so the amount of

00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:03.000
overhead that goes into dealing with retail consumer Brands and how low the

00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:08.799
margins are compared to their traditional business so if I was sort of

00:54:06.240 --> 00:54:14.319
the only one making the decision I'd go okay well are they

00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:16.839
profitable yes are they doing business

00:54:14.319 --> 00:54:22.280
are they employing people are they providing a good service to their

00:54:18.240 --> 00:54:25.400
customers yes yes yes yes okay leave it

00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:27.440
alone what's wrong with it whereas from

00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:31.680
a bigger business perspective are they profitable is not as important as are

00:54:29.839 --> 00:54:37.799
they growing our profit margin so there you go Belin on the

00:54:35.359 --> 00:54:43.400
other hand is accustomed to the low margin sort of consumer oriented

00:54:40.240 --> 00:54:47.799
branding business uh the one concern I'd

00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:50.680
have about Belin is do they have the do

00:54:47.799 --> 00:54:57.480
they have the coonies to do the kinds of things that lynis did where they had

00:54:53.119 --> 00:55:02.359
very long-term SKS things like wrt54

00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:04.960
ran forever amazing things like ea4500

00:55:02.359 --> 00:55:08.880
even have a long life cycle compared to what I've seen from typical Belin

00:55:07.200 --> 00:55:13.400
consumer products where they just they're there and then they kind of

00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:19.280
they're on fire sale and then they're gone um so yeah I'm I'm I'm very very

00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:23.599
interested to see how how all of that shapes down I mean it comes down to that

00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:26.319
theme that we had when we excuse me when we were talking about motherboards

00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:29.680
before where it's that cons consolidation so how many networking

00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:31.960
guys are left compared to how many there were

00:55:33.359 --> 00:55:40.880
before okay well Cisco doesn't care so

00:55:37.200 --> 00:55:43.200
just so you know Cisco did nothing wrong

00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:46.960
they got rid of an asset it's not their problem anymore oh they made a bunch of

00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.680
money selling it and or no they didn't they lost a lot of money because they

00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:55.520
acquired it for like five billion or something back yeah but they made Instant Cash okay yes they have cash in

00:55:53.000 --> 00:56:02.319
the bank my friend's GPU died out of nowhere sometimes

00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:07.599
happens uh sure why

00:56:02.319 --> 00:56:10.720
not uh oh Vector nice scared you don't

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:12.680
click on buttons man he seemed like

00:56:10.720 --> 00:56:17.480
pretty coherent didn't the last one seemed pretty coherent yeah I think so

00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:20.599
and we all got screamed at 75 to $100

00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:20.599
mid Tower get a Define

00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:26.319
R4 well I know uh GTX 680 now wait for

00:56:24.839 --> 00:56:31.680
you know what this is always the internal question let me put it this way

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:37.240
uh if you can afford a GTX 680 right now and it meets your performance

00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:38.760
requirements go for it GTX 700 series is

00:56:37.240 --> 00:56:44.680
going to be a lot more expensive than you can acquire a 6804 right now there's

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:48.079
at NC this week There's a GTX 670 for

00:56:44.680 --> 00:56:51.520
what was it 2 280 or something it's like

00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:52.960
289 or 299 or something under $300 after

00:56:51.520 --> 00:56:59.599
it comes with Assassin Creed 3 after a mail and rebate comes with a game um so

00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:04.680
yeah will a 700 series perform better yes will it cost probably double to

00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:06.520
Triple that yes it will so it's up to

00:57:04.680 --> 00:57:09.680
you man and one thing you can always do is we don't necessarily support on our

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:14.480
forums yet because of multiple reasons but you can jump on a hardware Forum

00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:18.039
move your card after you buy it and pick up a higher-end one yeah or better yet

00:57:16.240 --> 00:57:22.359
find someone who's unloading their 680 in anticipation of 700 series right now

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:28.400
cuz I guarantee you they're out there yep they're out there they're out there

00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:31.920
ni I'm looking for a CPU Cooler and an SSD I'm a heavy gamer which has

00:57:30.200 --> 00:57:38.559
absolutely nothing to do with your CPU Cooler or your SSD but grab an h100i and

00:57:35.680 --> 00:57:44.440
grab either an 840 Pro 256 gig or a vector 256 gig lus it's 1:00 a.m. here

00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:48.319
I'm sorry I can't stay I'm sorry too Brian lus have my babies it really

00:57:46.839 --> 00:57:53.319
doesn't work that way that's not really a tech tip but uh you'll just have to

00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:57.640
trust me on this one yes quickfire TK is a great keyboard for a non-s spacious

00:57:55.240 --> 00:58:02.039
area um sorry I don't have time for that

00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:05.720
right now hi Puerto Rico please fix the focus of the live stream is the focus

00:58:03.960 --> 00:58:10.880
off I think it's on autofocus so I think it's going back and forth I can try and

00:58:07.520 --> 00:58:13.440
fix that uh sure okay slicks on it is

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:19.720
PCIe 3.0 capable by AMD motherboards only compatible with visher

00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:21.079
architecture uh yes wait what what the

00:58:19.720 --> 00:58:25.359
heck is he talking about vishera and bulldozzer are the same thing vishera is

00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:32.720
an architecture made up of bulldozer cores so any of the newer FX

00:58:28.359 --> 00:58:33.920
8350 80 or 6300 what am I doing I need

00:58:32.720 --> 00:58:40.839
you to move into the middle cuz it seems in when it focuses move to the middle yeah cuz I need to be able to see you

00:58:37.319 --> 00:58:40.839
when it's trying to focus okay

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.880
okay is that

00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:49.599
better it's actually hard to make it

00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:56.200
focus when you're doing that all right I think that's good though uh slick did

00:58:51.319 --> 00:58:57.960
you kill par he says no okay no doesn't

00:58:56.200 --> 00:59:00.440
Belin still make their own routers isn't this sort of anti-competitive what do

00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:06.039
you think Belin is going to do with it they'll probably still maintain both brands in much the same way that Cisco

00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:09.760
never well they did kind of Rebrand all the rers Cisco but I don't know what was

00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:15.240
up with that that was only near the end was it Apple had a motherboard Market uh

00:59:12.839 --> 00:59:22.400
okay we're talking guys we're talking about branded motherboards sold on their

00:59:18.200 --> 00:59:24.799
own guess I won't buy linkx this

00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:30.440
anymore 4500s are still going to be awesome even when doesn't own it uh yes

00:59:28.720 --> 00:59:34.880
we don't bench on a C70 we use that as our thermal test bench I still bench do

00:59:32.839 --> 00:59:40.400
you well okay sort of that's a bench yeah it's just a thermal

00:59:37.240 --> 00:59:42.119
bench I saw it earlier didn't want to

00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:47.079
say anything so let's just leave that there for a bit oh my God that's awkward

00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:51.559
um Jason Lee asks why not sell linkis to dink Rus my bet would be that they

00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:57.000
didn't actually have enough money or care to buy it um ASUS is quickly

00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:01.559
gaining Market share in the networking space they are just

00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:04.920
rolling like freaking huge so it kind of makes sense ASUS is just ASUS where

01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:09.000
you're just kind of like okay the first generation product might not be perfect

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.559
and the second generation product might not still be perfect but the third

01:00:10.839 --> 01:00:16.839
generation one will just sort of roll everything else and everyone else might

01:00:15.200 --> 01:00:22.039
as well just go home they'll take a bit but they'll get it right and then they'll just Crush yeah that's acus for

01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:26.480
you it's like it's like their their mission statement just must just be like

01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:31.119
take your time destroy go into new categories question

01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:36.319
mark destroy because they're ASUS I mean it's

01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:44.480
not I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing I'm an ASUS kind of guy uh AMD

01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:44.480
win stock clock crisis

01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:55.119
Warhead I don't know about this I'm running away my friends oh okay uh okay

01:00:53.280 --> 01:01:01.000
I think we we've caught up okay so let's talk about th you being gone bye-bye

01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:05.079
okay so so where did it all go consolidation is the theme of the night

01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:09.039
I couldn't find the exact post that I Foundation is the theme tell me more

01:01:06.839 --> 01:01:12.839
about the post I couldn't find the exact post that I used for n link weekly I

01:01:11.680 --> 01:01:17.880
don't know I looked for it quite a bit using the exact same we filed an episode of n link weekly today that had all of

01:01:16.520 --> 01:01:23.480
the numbers on it as well but it might not be live yet yeah um but I do have

01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:28.359
the company Acquisitions so Sega acquired Relic who makes company heroes

01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:32.960
in warh Hammer um cotch media how does Sega still exist and THQ doesn't that's

01:01:30.680 --> 01:01:37.599
what I want to know it actually kind of blows my mind I have no idea like I

01:01:35.240 --> 01:01:42.160
think Sega own like I don't know this I wish I did but I think Sega kind of just

01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:45.760
owns a lot of stuff I know they do so who cares they're just a they're they're

01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:48.079
in they're a parent company now it doesn't

01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:53.960
matter coach media the guys that bought volition they're a parent company right

01:01:52.279 --> 01:01:58.000
okay they own the they own the company that makes Dead Island okay and Dead

01:01:56.160 --> 01:02:04.440
Island wasn't that just one game no they made Dead Island too I'm pretty sure

01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:07.119
okay so it was one game twice yeah okay

01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:12.000
cool um so wasn't it like not a very well regarded game some people really

01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:15.240
liked it I've heard kind of broad ends of the spectrum on each side okay some

01:02:13.799 --> 01:02:19.240
people liked it a lot or absolutely hated it I think it had fun multiplayer

01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:22.359
okay or Co-op or something I never actually played it Co-op zombie games is

01:02:20.680 --> 01:02:26.400
kind of hard to go wrong yeah so like I think that's kind of their thing there

01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:30.839
I'm not entirely sure though coach cotch I'm not sure how to say this but cotch

01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:34.680
media uh took out volition which has

01:02:30.839 --> 01:02:37.920
Saints Row and they bought Metro so 2033

01:02:34.680 --> 01:02:40.480
and the rights to 2034 okay and then

01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:44.200
krych grabbed Homefront which I think krych is already making Homefront to so

01:02:42.680 --> 01:02:47.960
they just bought the whole thing so now it's theirs instead of buying the rights

01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:52.319
to do it temporarily okay instead of being a developer for yeah yeah so now

01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:55.880
they own the whole thing so they just basically were like okay we'll take that

01:02:54.359 --> 01:02:58.799
if you're offering it all right I me if it's if they knew they were making

01:02:57.520 --> 01:03:02.440
actually that's probably a really good sign oh yeah cuz krych knows their

01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:06.960
business and if krych thinks whatever they're working on is like going to be

01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:12.680
good then I sort of trust krych inherently that's good take two who is

01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:15.760
2K and Rockstar grabbed evolve which is

01:03:12.680 --> 01:03:18.839
a code name project so not sure what

01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:20.520
that is could it be a new uh what was

01:03:18.839 --> 01:03:24.920
that that game by The Sims guy that no one cared

01:03:22.200 --> 01:03:28.920
about sport sport yeah maybe it's a new sport probably not I don't think so I

01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:33.079
think wasn't that one of like the biggest devastating so stoked for that

01:03:31.359 --> 01:03:37.279
game I bought the like pre-released character creator thing and I bought the

01:03:34.799 --> 01:03:42.079
game and was just like what is this is it that bad yeah I paid I played one

01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:46.920
fulltime through just cuz I was like no I bought both these things I will play

01:03:44.200 --> 01:03:52.640
it but I just that was a waste of time huh it's just not like they War I gold

01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:56.240
pre bu they developed it for like ridiculous amounts of time yeah oh yeah

01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:59.279
I don't remember how long it was and then it was just like devastating oh

01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:02.799
this feels like an indie game that you developed in like a couple months well

01:04:01.160 --> 01:04:06.160
it was one of those like Allen wake type things where it's like I'm sorry you

01:04:04.359 --> 01:04:09.520
were working on this game for how long yeah and then you ended up with what was

01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:13.119
apparently I never played it but was apparently a pretty decent game Alan

01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:19.319
Wake yeah yeah lots of people like it but I mean they were talking about Allan

01:04:15.640 --> 01:04:20.440
Wake when I was running a 9600 Pro like

01:04:19.319 --> 01:04:27.559
I've been talking about this stuff for a long time then it comes out and sucks Ubisoft grabbed South Park Stick of

01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:30.400
Truth so have you seen videos for that

01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:35.960
no it actually looks like the first game based off like a TV show that I would

01:04:33.839 --> 01:04:39.960
actually be interested in I did play the South Park game for N64 though the

01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:44.240
snowball fight was awesome I think South Park is the only one that can like

01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:48.160
really pull it off well they have the like the character style already that

01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:52.640
they' adapt very well they have sort of as long as they've actually got the

01:04:49.839 --> 01:04:56.680
writing team involved to make it I think they did South Park humor like there's

01:04:54.839 --> 01:05:01.480
been Simpsons G games that if I hear correctly are somewhat oh The Simpsons

01:04:59.200 --> 01:05:05.000
Sid scroller is awesome the old arcade game I've never played no I've heard of

01:05:03.839 --> 01:05:09.119
it but I've never played oh it's freaking amazing it's like the best sides scroller you're like Bart and

01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:14.079
you're like swinging your skateboard around and like that's awesome yeah like

01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:18.839
bad guys all look like uh Principal Skinner or whatever and like yeah no

01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:23.279
it's awesome that's sweet so amazing but like actually pretty stoked for that and

01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:30.920
then they just completely consumed THQ Montreal I just went like oh I see there

01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:32.279
ours now so yeah there's one wait I

01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:37.119
don't think you ever said Ubisoft that's what I don't did you say

01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:43.279
Ubisoft I think Ubisoft took over South Park SE of Truth and Montreal I think

01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:44.680
and then they yeah I think there's one

01:05:43.279 --> 01:05:48.920
title I don't remember which one it is it's the group that makes

01:05:46.520 --> 01:05:53.359
Darksiders they have not been purchased yet and that's because they are not up

01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:58.160
for sale okay I'm not entirely sure what's going on there I think it might

01:05:55.160 --> 01:06:00.119
be part of the bankruptcy deal but they

01:05:58.160 --> 01:06:03.240
are not up for sale which is kind of sucky because dark starters was actually

01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:07.319
pretty awesome it goes to show you how much money it takes to run a publisher

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:12.039
and game developer because it wasn't that long ago that THQ wasn't it like a

01:06:09.359 --> 01:06:16.119
month ago THQ ran that in bundle that that yeah that Humble Bundle and they

01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:21.000
made like a lot that injected a lot of cash into the company and they're

01:06:18.200 --> 01:06:24.079
bankrupt now already yeah like was that did they already know that it was going

01:06:22.680 --> 01:06:28.440
down no matter what I think the idea with that cuz you notice like steam

01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:32.039
Humble Bundle like they they picked up a new guy I don't remember who it was and

01:06:30.200 --> 01:06:36.240
he was like to run their company from there on because their old guy I don't

01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:40.200
know if it was the CEO but someone highend um was like I can't do this

01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:43.599
anymore and stepped back they picked up a new guy and then he just went nuts he

01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:47.599
pushed the Humble Bundle thing he pushed some crazy aggressive steam sales he

01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:51.319
just like went absolutely crazy but I just guess it wasn't enough probably

01:06:49.160 --> 01:06:56.559
spiraling too hard couldn't pull it out of it and then they just died I bet you

01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:01.680
if they were able to survive to things like uh company Heroes 2 if they able to

01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:05.079
survive to that release they might have been able to pull it back out right but

01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:09.680
they probably just couldn't live that long which is really unfortunate because

01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:12.480
THQ is pretty awesome I'm actually pretty upset that they're gone but some

01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:17.520
of the Acquisitions I'm crisis yeah or krych

01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:23.279
rather krych Ubisoft Ubisoft has been doing really great so far okay lately

01:07:19.720 --> 01:07:25.960
now except for you play I'm sorry but

01:07:23.279 --> 01:07:29.480
you play is like come on guys what did it do the other

01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:33.000
day that was oh yeah we had all the files in the install directory and we

01:07:31.279 --> 01:07:36.359
went to play the game and it just it just disappeared gone had no idea

01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:41.760
completely gone no idea it was there I mean this is stuff that even uh even

01:07:39.680 --> 01:07:47.240
that other one that I even the gross orange circle of origin yeah origin even

01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:49.200
origin has that figured out um I haven't

01:07:47.240 --> 01:07:52.279
set up my entire house with Inson I haven't had time and one of the light

01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:57.319
switches I wired wrong so one of my other lights doesn't work so I'm sort of

01:07:54.839 --> 01:08:03.319
I'm waiting is that that one yeah that's why that's why that doesn't work yeah

01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:07.599
okay so I'm um I can never find my shoes

01:08:03.319 --> 01:08:10.279
my brilliant plan is to go ahead and uh

01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:14.520
hold off on that for now until I can afford to do the whole house and have an

01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:18.560
electrician come in and just do it for me because it'd be pretty cool I don't

01:08:16.120 --> 01:08:22.480
know if inston is the one I'd go with um just because I don't I haven't and I'm

01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:24.920
not saying I wouldn't but I haven't looked haven't tried the other ones yeah

01:08:23.719 --> 01:08:30.600
I haven't tried anything else and I haven't seen they have in terms of like a software interface for managing the

01:08:28.799 --> 01:08:34.920
whole thing with automated like programmable events okay like the phone

01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:38.480
app is good and it works and blah blah blah blah blah like and all it all works

01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:42.679
but I need to know if I can program things like while I'm away if I can have

01:08:41.080 --> 01:08:46.319
random lights turn on at random intervals make it look like you're at

01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:50.920
home and what yeah so cool cool stuff like that baby mode would be cool just

01:08:49.040 --> 01:08:57.440
have everything in the house turn off baby mode yeah be like baby sleeping

01:08:52.839 --> 01:08:57.440
mode just like power down everything

01:08:57.759 --> 01:09:03.080
yeah turn off the home theater so then when he cries and I'm trying to go and

01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:08.319
get to him then I can trip over his toys and step on his Legos and I didn't mean

01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:12.279
lights I me things that made noise calm down I meant things that make noise it's

01:09:10.799 --> 01:09:18.319
completely unrelated to lights I don't think there's anything in my house that makes noise you have kind of a eerily

01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:23.440
quiet house yeah my house is sort of quiet um lonus what's the Forum server

01:09:20.759 --> 01:09:26.520
running don't ask me Forum server running what do you mean what do you

01:09:25.080 --> 01:09:33.759
mean Hardware software what are you talking about Apache Cent Apache

01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:37.839
Centos uh what board's in there 980f

01:09:33.759 --> 01:09:42.359
980x it's a 980x on an MSI Big

01:09:37.839 --> 01:09:44.759
Bang yeah yeah oh yeah big bang X power

01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:48.040
we had a 650 TI in there that got pulled out and replaced with what card did you

01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:53.319
give me I don't know what that was uh I think it was a 2600 XT passive passive

01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:59.159
card passive yeah passive card pretty cool um some fsp 400 power supply we had

01:09:56.440 --> 01:10:02.480
a stock cooler in there that uh this was due to Slick's utter incompetent

01:10:01.280 --> 01:10:06.679
actually you know what I must have had it in there so it's possible it's got

01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:10.199
plastic push pins so I think one of them popped out or maybe I didn't have it

01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:13.760
quite in enough so that was uh that was causing some overheating and CPU

01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:17.360
throttling so we have a stock Intel cooler in there that's like one of the

01:10:15.320 --> 01:10:22.199
baller ones with the blue LED and like the copper all around it and like an

01:10:19.679 --> 01:10:27.640
extreme Edition stock heat sink to explain a lot of the outages um we now

01:10:24.360 --> 01:10:29.040
have a new boss mode firewall and since

01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:35.560
it's been installed how many times has he said we've been attacked I think it was like 9,000 times that this one guy

01:10:33.719 --> 01:10:40.239
like the afternoon after the new firewall was installed it was hit some

01:10:38.080 --> 01:10:44.239
guy was hitting it like 9,000 times and then like that afternoon we're getting

01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:50.600
dosed right away so like we've been getting hit pretty hard um we had power

01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:51.800
issues today oh that was awesome explain

01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:56.600
what was running on what the electricians wired up the tech tips

01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:00.960
Studio incorrectly so there's a bank of eight Outlets that's supposed to run all

01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:04.480
the lights and it's a 30 amp circuit for these eight Outlets so it's supposed to

01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:10.679
run all of the lights and the test computers and all that stuff and it went

01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:15.679
out and I'm like what form server goes down I'm fre so 30 amp circuit goes out

01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:20.360
I mean what were we running off the thing like a microwave you know 2,000

01:11:18.400 --> 01:11:24.320
watt like no we didn't have a microwave so I'm like okay so I go down to the

01:11:22.440 --> 01:11:27.400
breaker and I call up the warehouse manager I'm like the only only one

01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:31.440
that's tripped is this 50 amp breaker everything else is fine and he's like no

01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:35.120
no for sure they hooked up that one to the 30 amp breaker and the other one to

01:11:32.960 --> 01:11:41.080
the other thing I'm like so we we dig into it and it turns out that we have

01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:43.719
basically the TV in the back of the NC

01:11:41.080 --> 01:11:48.040
Tech tip set running off of a 30 amp breaker and then we have a 15 amp

01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:53.440
breaker for all of our lights and test benches and everything else and the

01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.000
servers and everything and everything so

01:11:53.440 --> 01:11:58.400
that happens so the electrician's coming in to switch that around and then we had

01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:02.440
to find another circuit we had to run a wire from there to run the server off of

01:12:00.400 --> 01:12:07.280
in the meantime so it doesn't go down when the electrician comes in and

01:12:03.719 --> 01:12:10.480
switches it around and then I had to we

01:12:07.280 --> 01:12:12.239
I had to take out the 650 TI I had to

01:12:10.480 --> 01:12:19.480
take out the 660ti that was in my Windows

01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:22.400
Server um this is actually pretty funny

01:12:19.480 --> 01:12:27.239
I'm going to show this someone says I found slick and it's uh like a me hold

01:12:25.800 --> 01:12:32.719
on hold on hold on hold onol it's like a meme picture called

01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:36.159
friend zone uh keep telling yourself it's better than demotivational poster

01:12:34.480 --> 01:12:40.199
yeah it's whatever you're a demotivational poster it does kind of

01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:43.080
look like you though actually does it yeah here hold your head above above

01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:49.440
that guy I have to go like well now you're so

01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:52.560
close yeah see now it totally looks like that's awesome I usually have short hair

01:12:51.080 --> 01:12:57.120
though I just haven't gotten a haircut in like seven months yeah

01:12:58.120 --> 01:13:05.239
do you want a beta key for Firefall uh I'm

01:13:02.360 --> 01:13:08.880
okay I probably would never play yeah I don't really have much no time for MMO

01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:12.960
you guys sorry man I appreciate it but it would probably be better spent on

01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:16.360
someone else we appreciate it um do we have any other topics for tonight I'm

01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:19.199
sure there was something the Far Cry 3 Benchmark video oh I want to know if

01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:25.920
people are interested okay you talk about that I'll go see if I had any other notes okay so we're planning a

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:32.280
bunch of videos for like actually some of the cards are behind me

01:13:27.719 --> 01:13:34.600
like what card for what card is best AMD

01:13:32.280 --> 01:13:39.360
versus NVIDIA so we'll show like the best two cards under different price

01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:42.520
points uh for Far Cry 3 so we're choosing three different price points

01:13:40.639 --> 01:13:47.639
you guys will see the videos but um I had to set up the Benchmark for it and

01:13:45.360 --> 01:13:53.080
it's kind of a fun Benchmark so what I want to do is show my methodology for

01:13:50.320 --> 01:13:56.760
The Benchmark so it's if you played one of the uh if you've played Far Cry 3

01:13:54.760 --> 01:13:59.440
it's one the trials and it's the one where you're driving in the Jeep and you

01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:04.440
have to hit everyone you have to run over all the guys so what my methodology

01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:07.480
is you drive around you drive up the thing you hit all the time barrels but

01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.960
the plan is you don't hit any of the guys to make it consistent because it's

01:14:09.159 --> 01:14:16.520
way easier to not hit the guys than it is to hit the guys so I was wondering if

01:14:13.679 --> 01:14:24.080
you guys are interested in us posting a video of like lonus describing what the

01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:25.719
Benchmark is about showing like me

01:14:24.080 --> 01:14:28.719
getting into the game and then showing where where I start The Benchmark

01:14:27.239 --> 01:14:32.920
starting The Benchmark going through the whole thing and ending it and then

01:14:30.719 --> 01:14:36.679
lineus ending off the video if you guys would actually think that's interesting

01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:40.600
content we've never shown our benchmarking methodology that deeply

01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:44.920
before like we've never shown the actual run fully I don't think uh I think I've

01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:49.239
done videos where the camera's over my shoulder over your shoulder and you're doing The Benchmark but we haven't like

01:14:47.760 --> 01:14:53.400
properly shown the whole Benchmark in fraps like on the screen so you can see

01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:56.960
it really clearly before and we'd like for you guys to be able to run it and

01:14:55.120 --> 01:15:00.600
compare your own system so you can go okay what kind of performance do I get

01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:04.520
versus if I was running a system like what they're running that's cool right

01:15:03.440 --> 01:15:09.080
yeah and I think this would be really fun in his uh section of the Forum the

01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:12.920
lonus whatever whatever ramblings section if he posts that video up and we

01:15:11.400 --> 01:15:18.280
can show our results and then you guys can show all your results of your systems yeah that' be cool so everyone

01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:22.000
yeah so everyone can see like okay if I get this system it will run Far Cry 3

01:15:20.120 --> 01:15:25.520
this well and that's cool because compared to most like uh reviews or

01:15:24.400 --> 01:15:33.199
whatever else where you have whatever their revieww system was you don't necessarily you

01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.639
need more variety than that because the

01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:38.679
way that you do a review is very different from the way that you look at

01:15:36.480 --> 01:15:44.719
overall how does this game Run on a variety of of platforms because you tend

01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:46.480
to do things like overball out the CPU

01:15:44.719 --> 01:15:49.760
so that you can see the differences between all the graphics cards whereas

01:15:48.280 --> 01:15:54.600
if we have people posting their configurations CPU GPU RAM um it's

01:15:53.679 --> 01:16:00.520
probably the only thing that really matters uh CPU GPU RAM and frames per second

01:15:58.880 --> 01:16:04.600
then that gives us a really clear picture of what which platforms it runs

01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:09.400
best on and what affects the performance of that particular uh game yeah I did

01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:13.920
have something that I forget now someone will post that sometime being like I

01:16:11.280 --> 01:16:17.600
have a 3570k and a sabertooth with 8 gigs of RAM and then everyone will be

01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:26.040
able to properly see what their system like whatever graphics card all right so

01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:30.239
I uh I called the Bell customer service

01:16:26.040 --> 01:16:33.520
quote uh buttheads unquote on the last

01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:36.880
live stream and I would just like to say

01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:39.239
that they have proven themselves to me

01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:45.080
in in my in my eyes they have really gone above and beyond the Call of Duty

01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:47.719
and they actually had did did I I don't

01:16:45.080 --> 01:16:53.320
think I even told you this but the guy who called me to follow up on what was

01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:57.120
going on so they tracked down my name and my phone number and called me and

01:16:55.320 --> 01:17:02.800
they were like is this a good time to talk because our understanding is that

01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:07.280
you may have had a negative experience with Bell customer service which I

01:17:04.679 --> 01:17:11.080
should clarify it wasn't quite so much that it was a negative experience as

01:17:09.120 --> 01:17:17.080
that it was a complicated and timec consuming experience they

01:17:14.719 --> 01:17:22.520
um what I was doing was I was transferring the ownership of a cell

01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:25.440
phone plan from a corporate account to a

01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:31.320
personal account to a different small business account under someone

01:17:28.320 --> 01:17:34.639
else's existing account so what I was

01:17:31.320 --> 01:17:37.960
doing was extremely complicated on top

01:17:34.639 --> 01:17:39.600
of that I was changing my plan and I was

01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:43.719
trying to see if I qualified for a hardware upgrade and I was trying to get

01:17:41.880 --> 01:17:47.760
a new phone so that's what was going on that's

01:17:46.360 --> 01:17:53.280
why I was on the phone with Bell customer service for like an entire day

01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:57.120
um they were more difficult than because people didn't really understand exactly

01:17:55.040 --> 01:18:01.560
what I was trying to do and for their small business plans they're not just on

01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:06.360
the website you can't actually do like a comparison so everything's verbal so

01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:12.239
there's a lot of miscommunication whereas finally I just got in a car and

01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:14.600
went to the Bell store and got someone

01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:17.280
to pull out their cheat sheet that only they're allowed to see it says like

01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:21.679
confidential everything all over the top of it and I was like look no one can

01:18:20.080 --> 01:18:24.480
give me a clear idea of exactly what's in this plan so how about you look that

01:18:23.400 --> 01:18:29.639
way for a minute I'm going to take a picture of this so that if there's ever

01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:33.040
any debate about what my plan entails

01:18:29.639 --> 01:18:35.800
we'll all know so so that that got done

01:18:33.040 --> 01:18:39.960
and then they clarified everything and um I was just frustrated because it took

01:18:38.080 --> 01:18:44.719
so long and I was also frustrated because because of what the existing

01:18:42.679 --> 01:18:50.040
owner of the corporate account integrated my phone number had done

01:18:47.480 --> 01:18:54.120
before I didn't qualify for a hardware upgrade even though I otherwise would

01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:58.520
have so uh so that was where some of the miscommunication was there because they

01:18:55.639 --> 01:19:02.520
had renewed my agreement when they moved it over to something else in some way so

01:19:01.040 --> 01:19:05.280
that's why I didn't qualify for my Hardware upgrade so I was frustrated

01:19:04.040 --> 01:19:09.960
about that as well but it wasn't actually Belle's fault in that case so

01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:14.000
before you guys sort of go like oh lus is paid off by Bell I can tell you right

01:19:11.480 --> 01:19:18.199
now I'm not I pay a Bell cell phone bill just like every other Bell customer uh

01:19:16.120 --> 01:19:23.239
they did clarify a couple of things about my plan that I hadn't managed to

01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:24.880
figure out until now um but they were

01:19:23.239 --> 01:19:28.520
they were sort of deeply concerned that I had you know called because they

01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:31.920
didn't say that I called them buttheads but they said that I might have had a

01:19:30.040 --> 01:19:36.239
complaint and I couldn't actually remember even mentioning it in the live

01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:40.120
stream it was slick who told me that in the live stream I had said something

01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:43.960
about Belle so I had to go back and watch the AR time where I was like oh I

01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:47.400
called them buttheads that's probably that's probably why they were upset so

01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:51.480
our new plan is to call everyone buttheads yeah so we're going to start

01:19:49.159 --> 01:19:55.960
with Intel Intel's a bunch of buttheads they're just all they're all buttheads

01:19:53.600 --> 01:20:00.239
they're all buttheads but let's see if I get a call from oh right so the guy who

01:19:58.199 --> 01:20:07.000
called me reports directly to the VP at Bell or AVP anyway we need to like

01:20:04.679 --> 01:20:12.000
seriously call everyone buttheads so I need I'm expecting a call from Craig

01:20:09.120 --> 01:20:16.960
Barrett himself at this point you know apologizing

01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:18.840
for whatever whatever whatever Intel did

01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:24.040
to wrong us blam you for making good CPUs yeah

01:20:22.360 --> 01:20:29.560
what's your problem you make so many CPUs that like we can't find any other

01:20:26.679 --> 01:20:29.560
things that are better to

01:20:30.040 --> 01:20:36.080
buy so there so anyway uh yes I was

01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:39.880
frustrated it was probably not very nice of me to call them buttheads because I

01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:44.440
realize now that I sort of have a fair number of people watching so you know I

01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:48.880
I'll be fair next time and I'll actually explain what happened and then I'll let

01:20:46.639 --> 01:20:52.400
you guys decide if you think that the company in question is buttheads or if

01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:59.159
they're not so there you go awesome a yeah that

01:20:56.880 --> 01:21:01.520
was sort of awesome uh so let's do some Twitter Q&A and then I think we're

01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:08.120
probably going to wrap it up a little bit early because I think we're both really tired do I speak for both of us

01:21:05.360 --> 01:21:11.840
yes but gabri yes you'll have his babies I was talking about Gabriel's

01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:15.040
comment go you're talking about babies bring up marius's comment as well and

01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:19.600
yes we love pure Android compared to anything

01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:24.199
else pure Android is like everything else should be cleansed yeah no offense

01:21:22.719 --> 01:21:30.360
to everyone else who tries to not do pure right I mean I love you guys

01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:34.679
but no not really maybe a little bit in some games

01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:39.199
but for the amount of extra power it's going to consume a 260 with a what did

01:21:37.120 --> 01:21:42.920
you say 670 yeah that would almost slow it down no a 260 is way fast no slick

01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:49.000
doesn't know what he's talking about for f x yeah trust me fys X only slows down

01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:56.360
if you use like really old fail stuff like 9600 GT I run an 8,800 with a

01:21:53.520 --> 01:22:00.600
460 which is a similar Gap and it slowed it

01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:02.400
down okay it's not about the Gap no I

01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:07.920
know I'm just yeah it's just about whether the card can do the phys GTX 260

01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:10.199
is still a very capable

01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:13.440
card watching from Norway at a land party go play games that's what I was

01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:17.400
saying that's why I said go to Gabriel's oh yeah go play games

01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:20.520
Gabriel I mean you can watch us too just make sure you have two monitors two yeah

01:22:19.120 --> 01:22:25.360
or like a smartphone which most land parties don't allow unless you're at like a buddy's house no because you

01:22:23.360 --> 01:22:30.239
could use um here you have to buy two seats this is what I used to do at uh at

01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:34.040
land actually did you buy two seats no okay no no I didn't do that do I

01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:38.120
honestly do you think I would pay for two of anything no but I was thinking

01:22:35.639 --> 01:22:41.560
maybe a land party exactly so this is what I used to do if I wanted to have

01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:49.440
some kind of content that I was listening to at the same time I'd get open earbuds so not in not imem but like

01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:54.880
just earbuds and then I'd wear my gaming headphones over top of them so that I

01:22:51.719 --> 01:22:57.480
could listen to music but actually have

01:22:54.880 --> 01:23:00.360
like my game sound not necess so so if I needed to get rid of them I could I

01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:06.000
could take them out at a moment's notice that's sort of so you have your smartphone running the live stream here

01:23:04.040 --> 01:23:10.440
and then uh so that would be on like the Wi-Fi network which they've probably got

01:23:07.639 --> 01:23:13.960
segregated and qos out the yinyang and then uh you could have everything else

01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:18.120
sort of running off of your wired connection what are some games you're

01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:22.880
looking forward to in 2013 I'm looking forward to the Star Citizen

01:23:20.280 --> 01:23:28.960
Alpha yeah and that's about it Star Citizen uh

01:23:25.719 --> 01:23:31.120
oh what is it called planetary Planet

01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:35.600
Planetary Annihilation Planetary Annihilation looks sweet does it yeah SS

01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:42.040
it's an RTS game but you can like expand to the moon and then like shoot like oh

01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:45.639
you can grab asteroids and strap Rockets to the asteroids and bomb your enemy's

01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:50.280
base with asteroids so basically it's civilization except after you make the

01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:57.000
spaceship there game freaking awesome and like you can fight people with like

01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:59.239
planetary object X which is just sweet

01:23:57.000 --> 01:24:04.120
it brings back to the like '90s level of just awesome just like doesn't make any

01:24:01.679 --> 01:24:07.960
sense but sweet I remain skeptical I think it's going to be awesome it's

01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:11.679
Kickstarter game look it up my 660 keeps crashing usually happens during a visual

01:24:09.719 --> 01:24:15.600
glitch and comes back in like 4 seconds could be a power issue um could be an

01:24:13.920 --> 01:24:20.239
overall system stability issue may not actually be directly related uh neither

01:24:18.679 --> 01:24:25.239
neither of those are neither of those are good Solutions uh what graphics card would

01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:29.120
you recommend for intense video editing on Adobe software any Cuda capable card

01:24:27.679 --> 01:24:33.480
particularly a Quadro Far Cry 3 bench go got it you

01:24:32.360 --> 01:24:37.520
still planning on Switching the form software due to all the glitches no no

01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:43.920
we're going to stick with v bullets and five there are some issues but uh by and

01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:46.440
large it it works works there's a lot of

01:24:43.920 --> 01:24:51.440
like okay another bajillion showed out to Mr Wizard and the rest of the mod

01:24:48.280 --> 01:24:54.000
team um but sorry rest of the mod team

01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:58.760
mainly Mr Wizard we've been like fighting

01:24:54.920 --> 01:25:00.719
V Buon 5 to make this thing work um

01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:04.520
there have been an incredible amount of problems but we've also made an

01:25:02.639 --> 01:25:09.440
incredible amount of progress it's fairly stable right now most the out

01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:12.679
outages that you see is because like we were running it in a horrible ghetto

01:25:11.320 --> 01:25:17.880
state with like Hardware that shouldn't have been in there and stuff so today there was some oages that had to do with

01:25:15.400 --> 01:25:21.199
power and me moving it across the room and to where it should stay for should

01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:24.719
stay forever and like we're still working on the permanent solution we and

01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:28.400
we got their new firewall so had to go down while the new firewall was

01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:36.040
installed but it's like $1,300 firewall so like Yay like we're bye-bye DS yeah

01:25:33.679 --> 01:25:39.440
hopefully they can still happen we're we're we're moving forward we're working

01:25:37.639 --> 01:25:44.080
on things this isn't a huge budget project so we're trying to like yeah you

01:25:42.080 --> 01:25:46.880
got to throw that in hey well I'm not I'm not giving him the budget for rack

01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:50.760
space is basically what he's he's not giving me the budget for any external

01:25:48.719 --> 01:25:55.360
hosting well we could have done external hosting if it was like that website

01:25:52.360 --> 01:25:57.480
hosting plan that included like no St

01:25:55.360 --> 01:26:00.239
like how many five gigs of storage or something no what was it for the

01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:03.280
database you were allowed to have as many databases as you want but they

01:26:01.639 --> 01:26:06.880
couldn't be more than like 10 BS or something or one gig yeah and that was

01:26:05.320 --> 01:26:10.920
the biggest plan that was like pretty expensive and he wasn't stoked about and

01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:15.400
then we had like five gigs of hard drive storage and like 512 megabytes of RAM

01:26:13.239 --> 01:26:20.679
which not going to fly I mean oh for context the server has 48 gigs of RAM so

01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:26.639
it's caching a lot of the pages in RAM rather than actually running off of the

01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:31.159
256 gig SSD that's in there falling back

01:26:26.639 --> 01:26:33.480
to the 1 tbte re4 Enterprise level raid

01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:36.119
one that is basically backing up everything what we did have budget for

01:26:35.040 --> 01:26:43.119
was computer hardware yeah we had budget for that yes

01:26:39.880 --> 01:26:44.239
because we had it but like H there's a

01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:49.639
lot of stuff that still has to get in place one thing that I'm planning on doing and I've seen posts about this is

01:26:47.280 --> 01:26:54.840
rolling out ads on that right side under the thank you NCI label which is like

01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:58.920
just void space right now there was a poll someone put up a poll asking really

01:26:57.400 --> 01:27:02.719
some dude on the form put up a poll being like we should do this because they're thinking to help with the

01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:07.040
charity drive okay which it would alleviate costs so it would well that

01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:10.360
doesn't necessarily contribute in any way to the charity drive the charity

01:27:08.480 --> 01:27:14.360
drive is a different thing but it would help us guys make sure if you're not

01:27:12.639 --> 01:27:18.719
doing it already just click the like button on all of our videos because if

01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:23.199
we hit our Target for this month we're going to donate $250 to the charity of

01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:27.440
your choice if you visit the Linus Tech tips Forum in the charity section uh go

01:27:25.719 --> 01:27:30.440
there and then you have an option for a lot of different charities that we can

01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:34.360
contribute it to it basically comes directly out of my pocket so which is I

01:27:32.920 --> 01:27:39.920
think what the poll was about it was about just helping you in general not necessarily it was a thanks for the

01:27:37.480 --> 01:27:43.280
charity I'm okay I know but I'm just they're trying to be nice so they said

01:27:41.400 --> 01:27:48.800
do you want to put that there and people either said yeah do it or I don't really

01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:52.199
care okay no one actually said no so if the form was ad supported apparently

01:27:50.400 --> 01:27:57.960
people don't really get bothered by that no they don't want moving ads okay they

01:27:55.320 --> 01:28:01.639
don't want flashing like crazy stuff they want like stable kind of normal

01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:05.600
looking images so basically they want the ads that they can

01:28:03.440 --> 01:28:09.639
ignore no I think they want the ads that aren't like there's a difference there's

01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:14.920
a big difference you know which one used to drive me crazy the one where it was

01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:18.400
uh it was an ad for some Smiley package and the guy says say something do you

01:28:17.360 --> 01:28:22.639
remember that one ridiculous and the other one that I

01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:26.280
hate is the one where it's like move your mouse to like punch punch George

01:28:24.679 --> 01:28:30.440
Bush or whatever it is because I always just want to do it I want to on but you

01:28:28.639 --> 01:28:34.600
have to hit usually it's like a Target you have to hit it like three times or

01:28:31.719 --> 01:28:39.360
something so I'll do it like twice um yes so we'll probably be

01:28:37.239 --> 01:28:43.080
rolling out ads not crazy ones I think they just don't want that like attack

01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:46.320
your face right but we'll we'll put like at least fairly passive ads we'll put it

01:28:45.159 --> 01:28:49.719
on the right side and we'll try and alleviate some of that cost uh 2400

01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:53.280
people watching tonight so it's a little slower than some other weeks but uh it

01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:58.280
is what it is and we're glad that you guys are tuned in we appreciate it 2440

01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:06.760
we care about those 40 apparently his e4200 V2 slowed down his internet that

01:29:02.400 --> 01:29:08.080
uh is probably something else or like

01:29:06.760 --> 01:29:13.080
legendarily broken uh Sean why do I hate consoles

01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:17.159
two words and I will illustrate these words although I'm stoked for the new

01:29:15.480 --> 01:29:21.480
PlayStation new Xbox because it'll push ported games to be better okay that yes

01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:26.679
but okay oh okay well then more than two words keyboard and mouse are words one

01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:33.280
and to and then the other things are holding back game development the only

01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:38.239
reason we don't have games that have real time calculations and physics as

01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:43.560
part of the core gameplay are because they have to Port it to consoles so

01:29:41.280 --> 01:29:47.119
there that's why consoles bother me I don't hate consoles he's like think

01:29:45.679 --> 01:29:52.880
about it NVIDIA Shield is using a controller good for that I won't play

01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:59.440
Shooters on it I can tell you that right now racing games on conses racing games

01:29:55.679 --> 01:30:00.920
yay um sports games yay I play

01:29:59.440 --> 01:30:06.239
Assassin's Creed on the computer but I use an Xbox controller RPGs yay lots of

01:30:04.119 --> 01:30:11.600
stuff is way better on Console compared to computer

01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:16.000
um yeah not all RPGs are better on console for computer I think that flows

01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:20.800
back on the RPG I'm thinking like Final Fantasy style way way way better console

01:30:19.280 --> 01:30:26.560
like you play it with a controller like there's no reason you'd have to play it with a keyboard okay um

01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:30.280
um let's jump back on consoles real quick as far as I've seen both of them

01:30:28.880 --> 01:30:35.679
are coming out with eight gigs of RAM and eight cores okay so like oh yeah

01:30:33.639 --> 01:30:40.840
right the Xbox uh whatever it's going to be called spec leak we didn't even talk

01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:42.840
about play leaks too I heard that

01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:47.159
there's no way that that happened at the same time no I think PlayStation leaked

01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:50.600
earlier actually completely intentional like for them to both be around the same

01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:54.920
time you know you got to imagine both around the same spec you you got to

01:30:52.320 --> 01:30:58.719
imagine like Xbox EX and like PlayStation Executives sitting

01:30:56.600 --> 01:31:02.760
around a table with like cigars and like playing cards and like discussing you

01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:07.440
know the schedule on which they'll both leak things and then this and then

01:31:04.440 --> 01:31:09.159
launch and like I'm you know I'm not

01:31:07.440 --> 01:31:14.719
accusing them of actually doing that because that's not good that's collusion

01:31:11.440 --> 01:31:16.080
or whatever it is but uh yeah I just you

01:31:14.719 --> 01:31:20.480
you have like that image in your head when these things it's like when you

01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:28.119
know AMD and Intel launch CPU platforms at like the same time or AMD and NVIDIA

01:31:23.639 --> 01:31:31.080
launch new gpus at like the same time so

01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:34.639
yeah uh what are some useful networking programs you

01:31:32.360 --> 01:31:40.280
suggest um what what are you trying to do man Windows 8 yeah what are you

01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:42.760
trying to do Post in the networking form

01:31:40.280 --> 01:31:48.400
yeah in linch tips.com bened marking ideas epic got it all of my yes got it

01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:52.600
okay put it two different videos probably not uh h110 coming out coming

01:31:51.719 --> 01:31:59.080
very soon um it's different than the h100 because

01:31:56.679 --> 01:32:02.840
it's more bigger what do I think about WD keyboards I think they're supposed to

01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:05.880
be pretty good never had my hands on one personally I've also not personally used

01:32:04.639 --> 01:32:11.600
one and also heard they're pretty good what are the best speakers for games and music for computer speakers just grab

01:32:08.880 --> 01:32:16.679
some SP 2500s and be done with it have you tried I also like the the clips Pro

01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:22.119
media yeah but that's the promedia 2.1 is nothing like

01:32:19.679 --> 01:32:27.080
the promedia 5.1 Ultra was though yeah it has a weak sub compared to the SP

01:32:24.480 --> 01:32:33.199
2500s okay I'd love to see the methodology awesome come on to Australia

01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:36.040
no too hot 48 degrees CS that's

01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:41.360
ridiculous is that even right no is it right I hope not yeah it's like

01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:45.480
all desert down there basically isn't it and it's the opposite season Sim City

01:32:43.320 --> 01:32:51.520
beta is awesome EA didn't kill that yet all right I heard I've heard opposite

01:32:48.639 --> 01:32:56.239
really uh on Reddit there's a Sim City uh Reddit and people are freaking out

01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:58.520
absolutely freaking out what's the keybo I haven't played it so I have no idea so

01:32:57.480 --> 01:33:03.880
I'm not going against you I'm just saying I've heard opposite I think someone asks this every live stream what

01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:09.520
is the keyboard I use on the live stream it is an AO KB 178

01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:14.800
RT some games are not meant to be played with a controller yeah of course

01:33:11.960 --> 01:33:18.960
not yeah uh would you recommend an fx8350 if you can leverage the course

01:33:17.400 --> 01:33:24.560
okay apparently the leaked Xbox specs were faked all right I don't know man to

01:33:22.040 --> 01:33:28.639
Washington how far from the border is ex uh depends where you are in Washington

01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:32.840
Washington's a big state all right I think we're pretty much done for the

01:33:30.080 --> 01:33:37.119
night good night everybody and thank you for tuning into the live stream and

01:33:34.679 --> 01:33:44.360
don't forget to tune in to live streams featuring

01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:47.560
me and you and me yeah you're here too

01:33:44.360 --> 01:33:49.199
yeah you're fired apparently that joke

01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:54.440
is apparently that joke is old now someone went like crazy defending me on

01:33:52.600 --> 01:33:59.199
the Forum really I don't was like thanks bro didn't actually say anything but he

01:33:56.639 --> 01:34:02.760
was like no stop you guys are jerks and I was like that's kind of cool I

01:34:01.080 --> 01:34:07.440
appreciate it cool but they must know you're not actually fired yeah or are

01:34:05.639 --> 01:34:12.199
you but no like it's I think it's not you that he's he was getting after it's

01:34:10.679 --> 01:34:17.880
the crazy amount of threads where people say slick is fired on the Forum well you

01:34:15.480 --> 01:34:22.000
were fired a crazy number of times so it makes sense I heard someone was trying

01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:26.199
to actually keep track of how many times been fired I haven't seen that yeah no I

01:34:24.400 --> 01:34:30.360
think it I I thought I saw like a tweet about it or something we got to try and

01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:34.520
add offscreen fires then off screen that's gonna be tough because you get

01:34:31.400 --> 01:34:37.360
fired a lot yeah he gets fired a lot I

01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:42.440
mean today oh no yesterday that thing where you ran all of the benchmarks and

01:34:39.800 --> 01:34:46.159
overclocked all okay okay so yeah embarrass okay if he's going to tell the

01:34:44.280 --> 01:34:51.360
story about how I threw a USB drive at the server then I'm going to tell this

01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:54.440
story so slick I would like for you to

01:34:51.360 --> 01:34:59.560
actually tell me how many times you

01:34:54.440 --> 01:35:03.280
think I told you to use a cloud storage

01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:05.320
solution to log his maximum overclocks

01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:07.760
on this entire table full of video cards and everything else I've ever

01:35:06.280 --> 01:35:13.760
overclocked while working with you behind us okay that as well as his

01:35:11.280 --> 01:35:18.119
results for the Far Cry 3 benchmarks he ran for six different cards so this was

01:35:16.320 --> 01:35:22.800
probably like four or five hours of testing finding maximum overclocks using

01:35:20.440 --> 01:35:28.080
crisis which is a good stress tester and then um and then running benchmarks on

01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:29.800
Far Cry 3 to uh and then making graphs

01:35:28.080 --> 01:35:36.000
making nice tidy graphs that we can show you guys in a video that we're going to release soon how many times did I tell

01:35:33.199 --> 01:35:42.080
you to save the files to cloud storage that day alone at least six okay and uh

01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:47.960
how many cloud storage uh Services did you save them

01:35:43.280 --> 01:35:51.080
to I saved part of them to one okay and

01:35:47.960 --> 01:35:53.639
uh what were you saving them to Google

01:35:51.080 --> 01:35:57.639
Drive no no what oh oh oh oh what they they were all on was a patriot flash

01:35:55.320 --> 01:36:01.040
drive okay what happened to that flash drive I was trying to preper video for

01:35:59.440 --> 01:36:04.199
True Crypt didn't realize it was still in the machine and went to encrypt a

01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:12.360
flash drive encrypted the wrong one and erased everything so so I go I go so I

01:36:08.360 --> 01:36:15.320
go to his workstation and I'm like slick

01:36:12.360 --> 01:36:21.159
what are you doing are you finished the benchmarks he's like yeah I'm finished

01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:26.239
but it's all gone and he's trying to use a data recovery program to get the files

01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:30.639
back did that work how hard did I rub that you know I

01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:35.040
don't think I actually fired you cuz I think I basically said something like

01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:38.159
that's your training budget he came over to where I was and I'm sitting there and

01:36:36.480 --> 01:36:42.520
like never put the hood up on my sweater he's like he's like B okay if he if he

01:36:40.080 --> 01:36:48.600
was if he it was warmer he'd have been sweating like how hard he was working at

01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:54.239
this oh I ended up running like three different data recovery programs and

01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:56.440
like oh I was not happy that was was not

01:36:54.239 --> 01:36:59.840
a good time so I was just like what did we

01:36:57.440 --> 01:37:03.840
learn okay and the funny thing too is I'm writing him about it now but the

01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:08.840
only reason that I gave him such a hard time about this was that I have done it

01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:14.440
over and over and over again there's a reason that I harp on redundancy and

01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:19.000
there's a reason that I harp on backups there's a reason I have a raid six

01:37:16.040 --> 01:37:23.320
server in my house and an offsite raid five that it backs up to every night

01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:26.719
because I hate losing data and I've lost a a lot of it the kicker that you don't

01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:31.040
know about is that drive I have been backing up because I knew it was

01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:36.600
important so I had everything from before the Far Cry 3 benchmarks on it

01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:42.880
and I had all of that I had just finished moving to drive so everything

01:37:39.719 --> 01:37:45.320
that didn't matter was was backed up to

01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:49.840
my personal PC and backed up to Google Drive and everything that currently

01:37:47.040 --> 01:37:57.080
mattered disappeared so so guys there's the lesson for you cloud is good uh

01:37:53.679 --> 01:37:59.239
backups in general are good um

01:37:57.080 --> 01:38:02.800
accidentally formatting things is bad not good so I you know what I think I

01:38:01.480 --> 01:38:06.880
said earlier that I'd never lost my music library that's not true I did lose

01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:12.520
it once I lost my music library and my entire photo library once when I was

01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:15.480
like I must have been grade 10 so when I

01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:20.960
was about 15 16 and what happened it was an accidental format and I found a tool

01:38:18.320 --> 01:38:24.599
that recovered some of my pictures my problem is it wasn't a hard disk it was

01:38:22.639 --> 01:38:28.639
a flash drive even then like accidentally formatting a volume though

01:38:26.280 --> 01:38:33.119
oh yeah so that was actually the way that I've lost data in the past has

01:38:30.440 --> 01:38:37.239
never been physical drive failure because I've always used raid I've had

01:38:35.280 --> 01:38:41.000
one physical drive failure um this was when I was first I think I've told you

01:38:38.560 --> 01:38:46.840
about this first moving to my mineral L PC in the middle of building my mineral

01:38:43.159 --> 01:38:48.320
o PC and okay um like the hard drive in

01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:53.760
my mineral L PC sorry there's a piece of hair right in front of my face

01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:57.159
it's is it gone I can't see any anymore

01:38:53.760 --> 01:39:00.360
good enough for me go away the hard

01:38:57.159 --> 01:39:03.080
drive for my mineral PC sat in like the

01:39:00.360 --> 01:39:07.520
the lid on top so the very last thing you do when you're done building my

01:39:05.239 --> 01:39:12.679
design is you put it on the top plug SATA plug SATA top it you're done that's

01:39:10.719 --> 01:39:17.119
the last thing in the whole build so I'm done my hands are covered in mineral oil

01:39:15.080 --> 01:39:21.840
and I go pick up my hard drive you see what's happening I'm

01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:25.040
really tired this build has taken me like 12 hours it's like three or four in

01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:31.119
the morning because I didn't realize how long it would take I pick up the drive and like all my stuff that I was using

01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:34.520
was on one table and the machines on the other table so I pick up my drive and I

01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:38.880
go to walk over to the other table it's just like right out of my hands because

01:39:36.639 --> 01:39:43.800
mineral oil is so slippery and the side of a hard drive is just like metal like

01:39:41.639 --> 01:39:48.639
very smooth metal so I plug it up just and I see it just hit the ground and I

01:39:45.840 --> 01:39:53.679
didn't even pick it up I was just like nope I have a new drive here I'm just

01:39:50.920 --> 01:39:57.080
going to put that in game over man came over like I know that's dead there's no

01:39:55.679 --> 01:40:01.159
point I ended up plugging it in like a month later it's

01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:07.360
like like okay I think the only hard drive that I ever killed by dropping it

01:40:03.639 --> 01:40:09.760
was my old one tbte external 2 and 1 12

01:40:07.360 --> 01:40:14.719
in drive that had that awesome custom form factor like super thick 2 and 1/2

01:40:12.480 --> 01:40:18.880
inch Drive I don't even remember where I got that thing from but it was a beast

01:40:16.679 --> 01:40:22.840
it was some custom Seagate thing that I don't think many people bought them

01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:28.480
because it was really uncommon and I was moving a test bench and I used to keep

01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:33.400
the drive not on like a grippy pad the way that I do now so it was just on top

01:40:30.360 --> 01:40:36.920
of an optical drive oh slid out

01:40:33.400 --> 01:40:38.880
disconnected the wire hit the ground and

01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:43.239
well the rest is history but it only had like games on it it was like Steam games

01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:50.679
so I was still annoyed because it had a lot of like Steam games and I was in the

01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:53.480
middle of bench marking the 6870 video

01:40:50.679 --> 01:40:56.199
the one on the wall of Legend and so that video oh that was one of my most

01:40:54.719 --> 01:41:01.440
frustrating videos ever anyway you know what we run over time good night everybody and we'll see you next week

01:40:59.360 --> 01:41:04.960
same bat Time same bat Channel and until we move it and then it will be a

01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:10.639
different bat time on it well the same bat

01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:10.639
Channel there are no bats
