and we're live good evening everybody it
might not actually be evening where you are but I think you kind of get my point
um oh there's already oh look at this look at this we've already got a viewer
who's uh who's all about sort of our audio issues and uh how I should fire
slick and hire him so that or her could
be a girl I heard there's a girl on the
internet what's the name a oh yeah I have no idea yeah AO no idea there's a
lot of girls on that internet tons of them or at least
pictures that creepers took of girls on the internet it's a lot of that so good
night every oh good night no wait we're not done that's more of a we're done thing it's night here though it's
actually very late at night we had a very long day today we had once again
you know what for those of you who complain that it's unprofessional of us
to eat on the live stream um you know
what we're very sorry that we have to do that and trust us it's like we're not
that cool with what time like what time did we leave today this morning like
leave 2:45 nine yeah okay so so we got
started around 9: today and then we actually start that's that's pretty
typical on Fridays we shoot ncx Tech tip so then we make it back here for our
live stream at 9:00 our time and then we go for another hour and a half so you
guys do the math and then there's uh
work afterwards because I have to then watch the live
stream I I have to then watch the live stream I spilled food in my lap of
course you guys are wondering so so do I prefer this system the answer is no no
because it results in like a 13 14 hour
day yeah pretty much and then we get to eat at the like 12 hour Point that's the
first time we get to eat yep busy busy days so the good news is we have a busy
busy live stream for you one of the biggest the news this week was that um
NVIDIA has started well not they've
started they are not talking about it at all but the internets are starting to
talk about a replacement for the GTX 680
have you seen this have you heard about this so the rumor the word on the street
is it's going to be based on failed Tesla cores so Tesla's used for what's
that a supercomputer that deployed like a bajillion Teslas not that long ago I
won't know the name of it yeah I can't remember the name of it but Tesla is
used for supercomputing it's used for um things like cloud gaming so if you're
not familiar with cloud gaming that's um you know what I'll let you talk about
cloud gaming while I try to take like three bites here I'm not a fan of cloud
gaming but the idea is that it's all rendered and everything's pre-processed
in the cloud and then streamed down to your computer okay so tell me this about
cloud gaming based on oh right you
weren't there for Project Shield okay of course you have to troll me again no I
had forgotten because I was I was pretty down on cloud gaming
uh to start with like I was like oh yeah this isn't going to work bye-bye but
based on what I saw from Project
Shield it could work is that not local streaming though yes it's local
streaming but it's local streaming over Wireless which can't be that much better
than remote streaming over copper right
or better yet fiber yeah so when fiber hits cloud gaming is going to make your
gaming computer totally irrelevant forever it will never matter ever
again nope I'll play Legacy games You'll Play Legacy games yep you know what's
funny is I actually have Parts in my attic that are I have a yeah my my my
wife doesn't know about cuz she told me when we moved here she told me to throw
out all of the unnecessary Tech crap that I have and I was like oh yeah yeah
it's all gone it's all gone don't worry about it um it's hiding in the Attic
yeah there's a there's a box hiding in the Attic of enough Legacy Parts I think
I have a P2 233 some Edo RAM or it might
be might have been SD RAM by that time might be SD RAM I've got an old old id
like ATA 33 hard drive um like an a64
sound card Isa Isa a64 sound card and my
intention at some point is to find like a balling case and then just like I've
got an at power supply to go with it
and then I'm going to try like Frankenstein it into this balling
awesome looking machine so I can have a dedicated box just to play TIE fighter
so I've got my old thrustmaster Top Gun
joystick I saw that too seral seral
joystick epic there's one guy on the forums you got to check out his build
blog he did I don't remember all your specs if you're watching I'm sorry um
but the thing that stood out the most was he got voodo SLI running I told you about this I think
mhm yeah and that's just so awesome awesome so awesome wasn't he like even
running like old benchmarks on it he was running old benchmarks and trying to
prove his platform and like showing off him playing games and like really really
cool really cool build log he's talking about how he'd like buy stuff and people
would just send like like he said his two processors just came like taped
together two processors yeah so it's
like a dual CPU what like oh it must be like penium super super uber highend
yeah I think it might be pum I actually acquired back before I don't remember
what it is before dual cores were affordable um I had the I I I acquired
two Pentium 31 gigahertz and I think I
got something like a gig and a half of RAM or something for it uh when I
upgraded my my in-laws machine a number of years ago like this was this must
have been like six years ago because um
and you know what it actually kind of rocked running a modern OS like Windows
XP with dual processors even though
though they were underpowered for something like an office machine is way
better than a single core one of one of my most prized possessions within my
like the the the like room in your house
where you put all your Tech crap one of my most prized possessions in there
which I have like wrapped up like crazy in an antistatic bag so that I hope it
won't die is a one gig dim of uh ddr1
seriously yeah that's freaking awesome those were expensive those were like
crazy I don't know where I got it from I didn't buy it like I probably got out of
some system that a friend was like oh you can just have this I'm buying a new one I know you do computer crap and they
probably just bought a new system from Best Buy and like gave me their old crappy one crappy quote unquote because
it had a 1 gig ddr1 dim in it but yeah I I harvested that and just hold on to it
with dear life and every single time that I need to make like an old school
system for whatever reason I just throw it in to be like yeah now there's no RAM
problems instantly I can stack it with like
however many other sticks I want it's still usually more than half of the RAM
in the whole system it's just so epic
that's awesome I don't know if I have any I don't know if I have any old okay
probably my thrustmaster top gun so that joystick is is like legendary for
me other than that you know I wish I wish I still had
my monitor my CRT monitor so for those
of you who knew CRT monitors I had a P95 f+b from bonic which was aperture Grill
so it wasn't using that um whatever it was Shadow mask I think was the other
competing technology so aperture Grill was one of those things where you know
there was a lot of debate on the forums should I get an aperture Grill monitor
should I not because the aperture Grill causes two faint lines at about the top
third of the screen and the bottom third of the screen that allow the picture to
be much more square and much more clear for the flat screen
but actually caus those lines to be visible to you so people are like who I
couldn't get used to it or people are like oh I didn't even see it after two
three years so I took the plunge I got myself an aperture girl monitor I loved
that monitor one of my siblings took a quarter to
it never told me how it died the anti- glare Coating in the middle there was
nothing wrong with the monitor so I got a replacement from view Sonic it was
terrible it was like a refurbished this was when CRTs were not even really in
production anymore they got me the replacement when I was just like this is
unusable so I pwned it off for cheap and
uh and that was the end of my P95 f+b and that was when I made the switch very
begrudgingly to LCD and I moved to uh an
Acer 1916 W that 1440 by uh 900 was it I
don't remember I I don't remember it was like uh it was like whatever the
resolution was it was like super low res and I was just like oh it's WID screen
really small and I don't have a lot of desktop room like slow clap
myself so I blew like $ 6700 on a 2405
fpw and then that's the one that is still running on my wife's computer it's
starting to die though is it yeah I'm super sad I haven't noticed I haven't
spent like any time on it but I haven't noticed the edges are yellowing oh yeah
well it's cathod backlit so guys for those of you who don't know an LED
screen is not a thing okay I'm G let
that sync in for a minute that's why it's LCD LED yeah but people don't no I
know that people are like oh I want an LED monitor an LED monitor would be like
a lightboard like one of those Billboards that that's an LED monitor
trust me you don't want one of those or an OLED monitor would could technically
yeah yeah cuz that's an organic light so that would technically be an LED monitor
and that would be balling but we can't buy those yet no or we can but money
yeah we have to be like a sultan of like Malaysia or something and then we can
mount our OLED monitors in all of our cars they can go clear right uh oh there
was one on display at CES that was transpar that was transparent put it as
your windshield yeah that would be illegal I'm sure in any country anywhere
why what do you mean why because you could overlay like your speed and
everything or you could overlay a television show what if you could like
software mod it so that it forces to not show things on certain parts of the
screen so of course someone yeah okay I was going to say if someone handed you a
car that had a software limited screen
in the windshield what's the first thing you would do I'm not going to go into
that topic but that would be really
cool yay I want a screen right so LED
screens and LCD screens are not different things so an LCD is a liquid
crystal display it's a panel okay so it's thin it's thin it just goes at the
front and then uh ccfl or um fluorescent
those are the same thing okay so fluorescent lights go behind it and
shine through the LCD panel or you can
have an array of LED lights that shine through the LCD panel so that's the
difference so anyway it's an older fluorescent LCD monitor and what happens
to them is you can actually replace the cathodes I don't know if you knew that y
but you can replace the cathod but it's probably not worth it at this point
actually maybe it's probably really expensive 24 in VA panel though was a
very well-regarded monitor at the time do you think there might just be like stock hanging around I don't know I
don't know if I'd be able to get uh to get fluorescent tube looking into that
would be a fun video actually if you find they're so cheap now you can get an
LC you can get an LED backl LCD for like
nothing now and the advantage of LED is that they don't fade over time they
don't yellow over time and they last for a really long time which brings us
gracefully back to Tesla and NVIDIA's
upcoming replacement GeForce card um so
Tesla is used for uh compute
applications for cloud gaming and they want to take failed Tesla course which
doesn't mean failed so it's binning
process yes the binning process is the key here so you can have a Tesla spec
that goes whatever gigahertz whatever
memory bus uh whatever okay so that's the only thing
most people think about is what speed does it run at no there's way more than
that because for applications like compute where they're installing these
in blades they're going to have very strict power and heat guidelines so
there could be a chip that runs at 2 GHz at stock voltage but if it's hot like a
mofo it's totally unusable something can
be hot like a mofo
I'm hot like a mofa actually I'm really cold right now
I could use a jacket but the food's like frozen I know you microwaved yours but I
bet it's cold now yes the potatoes are
like solid but anyways um uh so the
binning process why don't you get into the binning process while I it's not
that show them how of us well it's pretty cold it's not that cold it's not
as cold as like two days ago it's 12° in here and you're in a T-shirt shirt nice
which sort of is more of a reflection on your wisdom and planning than it is on
the temperature I don't think it's that cold though I don't know I think it's
pretty cold we have the lights pointed at us though that's probably helping a little bit although they're fluorescent
lights so that's a thing they don't really heat out that much if we had the
ones from the ntx studio here oh that would H ridiculous so the other light
main light technology is incandescent which means basically
fire what it means um so that's where
something is just glowing so white hot
and so bright that it throws light all over everything around it those are hot
compared to ccfls which are hot compared
to L LEDs are you just checking to make sure the audio is actually good because
I never checked uh yes that's a good idea I have the twitch chat open here
too okay well maybe open that I was also going to bring up the list of companies
and what games and uh groups were
purchased good thinking I'll do some twiter questions except I got to finish this NVIDIA topic that I've been really
struggling to actually manage to finish sounds
good so the new card coming is going to be a replacement for the 690 it's going
to be failed Tesla cores which doesn't mean they're failed it could mean that
they run at a slightly higher power envelope which is fine when you can
throw a big old dual slot cooler on it in like a nice well ventilated gaming
chassis so no big deal and we're
expecting this to be an enormous well I'm expecting it to be based B on sort
of the leaked specs that have been seen and based on what we know actually not
even leaked specs based on what we know about Tesla specs this thing should be a
huge generational boost in performance so this was this core was
ready back when NVIDIA was launching GTX
680 but for whatever reason whether it was due to the competitive landscape
whether it was due to the yields on this gigantic die it's very expensive to
manufacture for a number of reasons so whether it was due to the yields whether
it was due to just it being very
difficult there being very few production lines that could actually manufacture this monstrosity they held
it back from the GeForce line and have only been using it for Tesla I think it
only recently made it to cuadro as well is that
correct I think that was a while back that it made it to Quadro not that long
ago though correct me if I'm wrong though guys um so I'm really excited
because I'm not a huge fan of dual GPU Solutions I don't like the inconsistency
of their performance so the way that in some games they'll be like this when you
compare to sort of a better single card you know if you go dual GPU okay
sometimes it's here sometimes it's here sometimes it's here because you're paying more for it um and there's just
more General like if if there's a game that runs perfectly on all
configurations except one you know all single cards run I pretty much guarantee
you it's all the single card configs that work and some dual card
configuration that doesn't work because it's a lot more complicated to code the
drivers for it so really excited about another truly high-end GPU that's using
a single GPU uh high-end graphics card using a single GPU and what that'll mean
for well for for everyone um are you
ready to join me for another of our main discussion topics or should I do some Twitter chat um I almost found it okay
let's do some Twitter Q&A then guys I'm going to go ahead and switch over to
Twitter and 121 new
interactions uh my speakers make some kind of strange high pitch pop every few
minutes any idea uh could be your phone if your phone is sitting near your
speakers and they're unshielded then there's a chance that you'll get some interference from them from your phone
whenever it's receiving or sending cellular data uh yes we will be covering
the THQ bankruptcy soon that's actually what Slick's compiling his uh his
numbers for what's that a pen you need a pen I have 15 pens you can
have so funny that one uh I might have one in my pocket you
can reach in and get it if you want no I got nothing that's a
shame so close and yet so far do we
really not have a single you know all the technology in the world and uh we
don't have a single pen it's cool you can go do problem
you're good okay I'm doing Twitter Q&A
then okay more Twitter Q&A would you
recommend the EVGA sr2 or SRX for
hardcore editing SL mid highish end gaming on the side actually yes that is
one of the only usage scenarios where I would genuinely recommend an SRX because
it is not useful for gaming mark my words slower for gaming than a than an
LG 1155 platform with a 3570k on it
especially if you're overclocking so there's that but if you can take
advantage of all of those cores and all those threads I mean I'm super stoked to
see what an SRX with Ivy Bridge e in it I want to see I've actually been able to
work with an SRX in real life really there's the issue for me is there's not
many cases or I probably would have bought an sr2 can the 900 do it uh yes
900d will do it but the 900 will not that's what I meant remember the 900d
and the 900 are completely different things much the same way that the 300
are and the 300 are different things although like where did Corsair get this
naming strategy from they both have 600s although the corsairs has a T and anex
does not what other numbers of overlap 600 do I think they both have a 200 is
there yeah low an yeah I think there's a carbide carbide 200 of some sort 200 r
or something like that yeah there you go so uh so Corsair when they re when they
iterate the 800d and the 900d a couple more times they'll have an 1100 as
well not really not sure where I was going with this cloud gaming will never
fully take over there's a reason we're called Enthusiast building computers is a hobby for many good for you but you're
wrong uh cloud gaming will take over and there will be nothing left of Enthusiast
there will be old games or like Indie Games it's like it's like saying um it's
like saying Super Nintendo is never going to die because there are
enthusiasts and there will always it'll always be there and you're right in fact
I think the most recent Super Nintendo game was made only a couple years ago or
something like that like yeah there's still guys coding games for Super
Nintendo and finding ways to like flash the ROMs onto cartridges and play them
and like you said with Indie Games there always be like Kickstarter they're going
to release and then stretch goals will always be like local platform local
platform or right now it's like Linux Linux Linux there will always be like
that that that push where there will be a few options for it but um yeah it's
going away mainstream mark my words 10
years from now you probably won't have any good reason to still have a
dedicated gaming computer uh but there come on guys okay
here here's another thing too is don't worry too about it because there's going
to be lots of stuff to Tinker with like
there's going to be lots of cool stuff that we can play with as enthusiasts I
mean that's like saying you know uh oh
you know the uh the desktop PC is never never going away because phones will
never take over ra ra ra the reality of it is we all have awesome smartphones
that we all use to play games and we all use to do all kinds of things and they
are coexisting that's okay so your local platform that you play your indie games
or whatever will coexist but you will have some kind of a cloud service maybe
10 years is optimistic especially for certain countries like I think in places
like Japan where infrastructure costs nothing in places like Europe where the
population density is so high compared to how how long did you say you think
it's going to take I said 10 years I think that's optimistic that's like I
think it'll take longer than that yeah no exactly 100% sure think yeah it'll
probably be more like 20 before we actually don't need it'll be a long time
so it'll be a long time so don't worry it'll be a long time and the transition
will be smooth well smoothish nothing's ever smooth nothing ever works that's
rule number one of tech tips thank you for joining us live Beno Beno Beno
please boost to 1080p up from 900p I'm
tired of see seeing people ask what it is please boost to 1080p plus up from
900p I'm sorry I don't understand stream in 900 I don't think we're streaming in
900p um I don't think I can check right now
though resolution oh what the heck we're
streaming in600 by 900 why are we stream okay sorry guys
there's nothing I can really do right now about that the profile must
transfer okay it's all Slick's fault because he was using uh he was using my
Twitch account to test some things when he was streaming some game last night
and his monitor is 1680 by 1050 which
because you know X splits awesome and doesn't acknowledge 1600 by or 16x 10
resolutions which I understand I understand it's it's a streaming
platform for I'm getting new monitors slick says he's getting new monitors I
don't I'll believe it when I see it so sorry about that guys we will uh we will
have to deal with uh we'll have to deal with that another
time um Australia Day cool watching from
the UK awesome when will The Sweep stakes be over you know what I haven't
talked to Lou from unbox there anytime soon
um or anytime recently so hopefully we'll be doing the gaming peripherals
giveaway very very soon I have them sitting in my waiting to ship stuff out
pile over there so it's uh we'll ship it out as soon as as soon as we uh we get
together and uh and do like a random.org choice for a winner so that's good uh
Tech Team GB says they saw my my story post on my Forum uh they wondered what
what I recommend for new reviewers um I think pretty much everything I have to
say is is in that post um if you if you
go on the liniste tips.com Forum and search for my story or something like
that basically I just posted I've talked about it on the live streams before so
if you've been following for a while then then you'll already know but uh I
posted sort of how I got into making YouTube videos and how my career has has
started and sort of continued to evolve
and uh slick is now prepared with our next main topic so let's do a few more
Twitter Q&A things talk about the diaper
video um I don't know what there is to talk about on the diaper video but it is
what it is I mean babies don't really they don't really care they don't really
have any shame have you heard about the
8350 um versus 3570 disagreement going
on between Logan and some neck beards no I haven't I yeah he posted a bunch of
videos saying that the 8350 beats 3570k
oh well it doesn't yeah I know oh okay I'm so that we're clear it I haven't I
haven't actually watched his videos um but I think it's like certain I think
what he's actually trying to say is that it wins in very specific use cases well
I saw the title of his video but I didn't watch it it was something to do with Twitch streaming and gaming I have
no idea what he was aiming at so if you're if you are if you're in an
environment where um where you actually have a lot
of multi-threaded junk going on in the background like if you have like three
people Skyping in and you have Windows of them here here and here and then
you're streaming from the corner while you're playing a game and you're doing like a stream like that where it's very
CPU intensive because it's encoding multiple streams then something like an
8350 could pull ahead of a 3570k because
all them cores yeah because all them cores but uh in sort of the well in
situations that most people would encounter that's not really going to
happen like we just said though we haven't seen his video you should have
yeah hi Winnipeg sorry hate sucks to be you man um you should have Skype callers
on your live stream you know what it's something that we might do at some point
with like uh you know having like diesel join us for example but it'll be a it
probably won't happen where we'll take actual live viewers as callers because
Twitter is a much more manageable way for us to interact with the
audience uh talk about Intel said they'll stop making desktop CPUs after
let's see let's see what they say although actually okay before we do that
I have another topic Intel is oh my
goodness I have I have two more that are awesome yeah that one too so let's start
with let's start with Intel uh is not going to make desktop boards anymore
yeah heard about that y they were never that huge in the motherboard Market
though in some markets it was different was it yes in markets where CU Intel's
strength more than well okay they technology so technology here you know
probably branding here and then strength number three I guess if I had to pick
one this is off the top of my head so they probably have more strength I mean Intel is just like you know if they had
eight arms sticking out of them they'd all be going like this right um but
their distribution Network yeah because
you can buy an Intel CPU anywhere
anywhere yeah so especially years ago
when ASUS or DFI or biostar or whatever
DFI and biostar yeah or like markets where ASUS didn't have a lot of
penetration very lowcost markets Intel was actually seen as a premium brand
because compared to the other garbage you could buy Intel was reliable it
would work every time and and that was
that so so Intel actually like is a thing well was a thing when it comes to
motherboards but now that has uh that has all change so what does this mean
I'll I'll take your thoughts first while I adjust the angle of the camera a little bit here because it's bugging me
I wonder if they'll be quite so strict on uh the specification for
everything other than that I don't really think it's that big of a deal
I don't know that's really all I have to say that's all you have to say about
Intel not doing motherboards anymore I don't think it's that big of a deal I was never even interested in it
motherboards but that's not the point what does it mean for the market we've
Consolidated down from okay here I'm
going to name all the motherboard makers I can think of from when I was an
Enthusiast at the very beginning okay so
like like I'm talking branded motherboard makers where you could actually go to a store or an online
website and buy it so
ECS biostar
foxcon soultech MSI ASUS
Gigabyte EVGA what are some of the other crazy
chain Tech chain
DFI um what else was there probably missing
some I'm probably missing a bunch but we're now down to oh Intel right Intel
is another one
um I'm sure there's it's probably blowing up with a whole bunch that we
just missed but those are pretty much all the ones I remember yeah so so at least at least a
dozen guys like existed around the in the socket a era and one by one they've
gradually just started a bit there's another one a bit uh there's 13 that's
happened with everything though every single piece consolidation so 13 I name
from when I was actually I don't know if I can count EVGA because I don't think
they overlapped with soultech so let's say at least 12 active ones at a time so
now we're down without Intel we're down to uh oh asrock's another one 14 of
course yeah azrock so lots of guys so
now we're down to ASUS Gigabyte as like a clear one two then MSI as a clear
number three and then ASRock which who
may or may not there was a rumor that ASUS is going to reacquire ASRock
because that's asrock's origin so that would leave us with three Intel will be
gone biostar and ECS are still out there but they're just making lowend stuff and
I can tell you the margins are not good like it just won't make any sense at
some point and they'll just abandon making Standalone boards evg is still
making evj is still making motherboards but I know that their volumes are not as
high as someone like ASUS and the margin's not there because they have to
get someone else to make it for them like whether it's foxcon or orus or
Gigabyte or whoever else they evj is not a manufacturer of
motherboards so that leaves us with what maybe six guys that are still active
now I mean CH that's happened with everything though seriously there's
still a lot of video card guys yeah but quite a few of them have fallen too
still a lot of peripheral guys if anything there's probably more peripheral is yeah monitors still Lots
although there might have been more uh look at gaming Studios looking at our
next topic yeah gaming Studios that has happened like crazy look at the volume
of just EA look at what they've like eaten and consumed and destroyed and
left dead well they don't leave everything
dead EA has good stuff the Sims is kind of
awesome wasn't that originally their title yeah
yeah no um NHL 2013 was that originally
their title which almost didn't happen wasn't that originally their title
who have they consumed that has like came out
well because I think they were working on uh Mass Effect one when they acquired
BioWare and I think they were working on Dragon Age one so those games were
released more from just BioWare standpoint and then Dragon Age 2 came
out I know you haven't played it but like I bought it was it bad
oh hated that game L Dragon Age 1 did
not like Dragon Age 2 you can't go anywhere it's just like oh I got to the
main city and I'm just in the main city and any quests that are outside the main
city I get to teleport to and then teleport back it's sweet that's so G so
boring I mean for me one of the best parts of any kind of an RPG Style game
is getting to the next town and like finding all the weird random stuff like
like the the chicken that you can throw down hole or whatever in Zelda or like
or like or like the house that you go into in Final Fantasy 6 where the
music's different so you know there's going to be like a cooky old man in there the the chicken at the very
beginning of Skyrim you run up and hit it the whole town freaking goes crazy on
you like like just awesome little things like that's so cool Mass Effect uh Mass
Effect 3 came out my brother and I were both like oh we haven't played Mass
Effect series at all let's not read anything cuz everyone hated Mass Effect
3 but we just refuse to read anything cuz we're like we'll catch up right both
played Mass Effect one both absolutely loved it awesome game loved that game it
was great picked up Mass Effect 2 I'm playing on PC I quit in like 15 minutes
that's it they they put everything on
like you can tell it was Hardcore made for a controller and if you go into the
key bindings to rebind things it's like oh yeah I rebind three moves onto one
button on your keyboard what why it's like no I don't want like I don't
remember them all but it's like jump and open and like do this other thing all my
space bar it's like no use is e what are
you doing use can be F or F or whatever like
you can bind it to whatever you want right like could be
you wow you know what I mean though yes
like being able to keybind specific abilities is like kind of important and
they put it all on single buttons I like screw this you know what I love about
like proper PC games like Quake 3 okay
awesome when got a widescreen monitor I was like okay go into the inii
file key in a value for field of view it's just like bloop key in a value for
resolution done it doesn't matter how old and
crappy it is if the game developer actually properly makes it customizable
and it it can't be that much work they just port and forget how much work is it
it's like built-in bench marking utilities how much work is it to record
a stupid time demo
come on like how much publicity does a game developer who produces a benchmark
for their game get from everyone
everywhere benchmarking their game like what was that um what was that game
where the Benchmark was like the big monster that comes out and like does
stuff uh I'm not going to be able to
think of it ah I can't think of it either we should like segue from that
and talk about whether or not people want those videos Planet 2 was that it yeah that was the one Lost
Planet 2 it's like I wouldn't have even considered playing that game cuz I just
didn't care and didn't have the time around that time but then there's a benchmark but there's a benchmark so you
see it on every review site for every video card and if your benchmark it
looks if your benchmark looks good enough which it should everyone's going
to go oh that looks cool I want to play that game super easy to get super easy
adver how much work is that anyway you know what before we go on to the THQ
acquisition what's up we should talk about benchmarking view if people want
it okay Right Far Cry 3 okay um let's
take some let's go have a look at Twitter really quick here to see if anyone was able to come up with uh with
any that uh that EA hasn't
wrecked uh here we go yeah same
experience as slick playing Mass Effect 2 he kept playing though because uh GIS
was sexy GIS is pretty awesome Slick's
in agreement with you if you can't hear him I know the shotgun mic's pretty directional sorry I'm late was
installing a pass VGA cool my 6870 good luck with that I hope you have some airf
flow Logan attributed two unreleased Windows 7 updates for the reason why
8350 pulled ahead no uh I think you
should check out Singularity computers he's a custom builder okay uh what about
Texas Instruments no they were never in motherboards should try Firefall it's
free for two days um wish I had time I'm going to go
in and do other things like work when I'm done this my 13-year-old friend is
getting a gaming PC and wants an i7 could you convince him he doesn't need an i7 uh he doesn't need one an i7 is
not a bad idea send him at the forums get him to go into the Bild Planning
Group y those guys are really good they know what they're doing send them to
linest Tech tips.com we are streaming on the xa1 hi from the UK hello hey
hello uh agreed exploration for the win
yes sir or ma'am Zachary probably not a
chick how many gigahertz can I get I don't know go for it find out that's
half the fun yeah uh IBM probably manufactured their own boards at some
point but I was talking branded and he's talking when he was into it very
specifically like but like branded in a retail box marked with the brand uh
Zotac and foxcon that's right Zotac does still make motherboards although it's
very Niche like very Niche I mean I was also wasn't talking about super micro
and tyan either so Zotac basically just ITX
boards um when my comp sleeps it
undetect the storage drive I have to restart to be able to play games we're
having a similar issue with our benchmarking platform which is using an
ice scuzzy disc that's a little bit different because ice scy disc sort of different okay any update on the build
I'm waiting for Mountain mods to ship me back my stuff want to put KN to a fans
on my build but I don't like the color any good way to paint it and will it affect performance painting it will
affect the balance and could even affect the shape slightly paint is not um
insignificant it does have thickness if I was really going to go all out and I
was going to really try to put Noctua fans in a system I would try and figure
out some way to to dye the plastic because that's probably a better way to
do it without adding any weight or any bulk or any uh or affecting the balance
because balance is everything with a
high quality fan have you ever actually done that though no or heard of anyone
doing that no because how would you dye it properly how' you dye plastic you'd
have to no because the motor's in there you'd have to you'd have to um put like
some kind of a waterproof thing that would be hard that' be really cool but
that' be a cool mod though black KN to a fans like custom made cuz I love to us
but they only work in systems like that like the I guess you can't see can't see
that so green C70 it looks really military it looks really cool throw a
saber-tooth in there and it just looks awesome our live stream setup is a Canon
XA 10 we've got a road shotgun mic on it um we're streaming to a black magic
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a limb there whoa lus calm down that was creative
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you too editing dual aha dual well
neither editing you don't need either of those things you need one Cuda capable
core and preferably a Quadro if you're using Premier Pro PC chips ah yes PC
chips there you go that's another one motherboard manufacturer low end stuff
okay uh what temperature is dangerous for laptops internal Hardware I'd say
anything above 80 to 85 degrees is probably getting into not too
comfortable Zone laptops are usually pretty well like they know what they're
building they're usually cooled enough no updates on the Intel smartphones we
did talk about them a little bit at CES the one thing that the that the guys in
the booth did mention to us though was that especially the lower cost one was
aimed more at developing markets and not so much as a North American thing so
it's got like good performance but quite inexpensive so they were aiming to get
smartphones down to sort of a few hundred Price Point again uh utilizing
what you're talking about with the uh distribution networks they know where
they can push so might as well
mhm speaking of
phones I have officially switched to an HTC 8X I'm running Windows 8 phone
247 and I'm going to do it for at least 30 days before I decide whether I'm
going back to iOS and how's that going for you so far I have a list of
frustrations actually maybe tomorrow or Monday we should film part two of my I
switched blog so you can check it out on the lus tech tips YouTube channel if you
haven't seen it already I did a day one one where I went through and everything
that bothered me on day one or everything I thought was cool on day one
is all in there and then I have a huge list of notes that's going to make up
the next couple videos where I'm it's going to be sort of everything that happened before day three and everything
that happened between kind of day three in day 15 and then I'll probably do one
more at the end of 30 days where I let you guys know based on my experience am
I going to switch back to iOS or am I going to stick with Windows Phone 8 I'm
not going Android for all of you who are about to suggest that I buy a Galaxy S3
he refused to try it he grabbed Windows Phone 8 which is like still being
developed for pretty hardcore because it's like oh I've seen his list of notes
and there's a lot of stuff that's just like really like the auto rotate thing
yeah that one's pretty frustrating you cannot cannot turn off auto rotate on
Windows 8 Windows Phone 8 and not wrong I can hear you all rushing to your
keyboards and Googling it Windows Phone 8 does not support disabling auto rotate
so if you're using the phone in bed and you want to use it in portrait mode you
cannot do that it will switch to landscape mode on you so then you'll
flip it again and it'll go back to portrait mode and then you'll flip it
again and you'll end up in this endless cycle of flipping the phone around not
knowing what's going on and what's up and what's down for people that tuned in
last week my keyboard works that was weird the cable completely
broke like it doesn't work on anything else and the driver got messed up at the
exact same time so well was probably to do with the broken cable like fing
things up maybe yeah um so I had to pitch that cable
and and he stole my C I stole your cable
I gave it back did you give my cable back yeah okay cuz I was going to have to charge you for that I'm using
the I'm using the detachable cable from my quickfire because the quickfire is
detachable cable is awesome it's like sleeved and golden tipped and just sweet
so I just shoved it on my ducky and I'm good to go now all right you know what I
want to talk let's talk more consolidation before we do this one okay
um well we didn't get any EA answers because I think we scrolled down oh yeah
did anyone actually manage you asked a question and then you clicked on the
comments right away so no one had time to answer it oh okay Intel doesn't make
mother I hope they still do Nicks Logan lus says you're wrong about the 83 50 uh
we we have we have we have done a fair bit of testing on that and like I said
if he's in a particular scenario and maybe Far Cry 3
is an exception maybe we should do Far Cry 3 testing so so hold hold off guys
don't sort of he's wrong in the context
of most games and anything we've ever tested but if he's found a scenario
where the 8350 comes out ahead we haven't seen his video yes so
there that's a factor we can't actually say he's wrong cuz we haven't seen his
video slick your thoughts on the Elder SCS MMO while I eat I am excited and
very very fearful at the same time okay if none of you guys know they released a
beta sign up I've been like too nervous to write the ridiculous essay that I'm
going to write for why I should be chosen for this beta I'm actually going
to sit down tomorrow for like an hour or two and like properly script the whole
thing I didn't have time for this and I know you're really really good at
like like you took English in University so I'm probably going to send it to you
what did you take I thought you took English I skipped
it anyways I know you're good at that
kind of write up so I'm going to send it to you when I'm done to edit it and I'll
get you to edit it somehow um hate you you're fired and then I'm
going to hand that in I'm super freaking stoked and scared as hell at the same
time because some of the stuff that I've read has been like oh God you're going
to destroy everything but then later on they're like hey we listened to our fans
and changed it so it could they're
actually listening and like I've seen quite a few videos if you check out the
interview videos and stuff they're like hey we go on this forum we go on this
forum we go on this forum we read everything that gets posted under these
forums on these specific like sticky topics and stuff we read everything and
they pay attention to what people are saying so they have been fixing things that are like holy crap that's bad so
I'm actually really excited I've been a huge fan of every single Elder Scrolls
game ever uh mowind is like by far and
large way above everything else in my L of favorite G nothing is far and large
if it was far and large then that's the same as it being close and
normal no because what if it's like a skyscraper it can be far and large and
close and large
touche anyways um it is by far and
large my personal favorite game ever I've my like list of games that I just
absolutely love and morwin just completely trump card you've also never played any of my favorite games Final
Fantasy 6 TI fighter fin Fantasy 6 I haven't played TIE fighter I will I will
go back and play them I seriously doubt they will beat morwin though prob
probably not probably not one of my spring breaks in high school I spent
pretty much the entire duration on the couch in front of my TV playing morn
almost the entire time I love that game
and i' I've said my story before about figuring out the main quest so I'm not
going to bother repeat that but yeah amazing I'm stoked for Elder schols MMO
but like I just said I'm worried too so I hope it comes out well I think it'll come out well but it's probably about
time for a Changing of the Guard I mean what do we have Guild Wars 2 Warcraft
the 16th or whatever expansion pack they're on now okay I was going to say
expansion yeah still technically the same one yeah but come on I mean it's
such a different game compared to what it was when it launched completely yeah
it's ridiculous well but that's good that's probably what's kept it fresh
that's probably what's kept subscribers too because at the beginning it was it
actually oh people might hate me for this I think at the beginning it was a
little bit more hardcore and at the beginning you had to have a 40-man raid
group to do raids so you needed this like huge network of people all the
servers were self-contained at the very beginning there was no Battlegrounds so
all I don't even know what a Battleground is so like there's like a
capture the flag one and there's like a whole King of the never mind anyways at
the beginning you needed 40 people if you wanted to raid there was World PVP
that was it and it's all contained on your own server so you knew like all the
top guilds on your server you knew like the top dudes of the top Guild on your
server because there's only like three really big guilds on the server so you
know everyone when you go into PVP if it's you know the guys you're fighting
and like it's very possible that you've been in vent with them before even if they're on the other side people don't
even use vent that much anymore it's Skype now anyways um like you knew
everyone now it's massively across server and now when you look for an
instance you just like click a button and click join and a timer goes and then
once it finds enough people it's just like join instance and you join in with people from other servers and stuff and
you just leave when you're done so there's no like communication really
like there used to be so it's more mainstream way more mainstream it's kind
of weird I don't know I come from EverQuest days so new MMOs are just kind
of icky to me I don't know uh what else we got but I'm still
stoked for the Skyrim one or whoa ell schs one no one uh no one has managed
to post anything so let's take that as
no one thinks EA has ever acquired anything and not eared it I just saw a
funny Twitter um D D D D D yeah I I see nothing
someone apparently has the same steak knives as me okay so let's talk uh let's
talk guys I don't know if you've know if you know this yet but lynxis so if you
guys remember linkis used to be their own thing and then they were acquired by
Cisco so any recent linkis router
actually has a big Cisco on it and then like a little like linkis somewhere like
maybe on the bottom um Cisco the deal is
done has sold off the linkis in fact the
entire consumer networking business unit to belon of all
companies so Cisco gradually closed
things down like flip I don't know if you guys remember flip video I mean that was doomed anyway just because phones
were catching up so fast was like yeah
I'm going to carry around a dedicated device to film crappy videos no offense
to flip I made a video about the flip way back when and basically because you
know I try not to you know if you don't have anything nice to say don't say
anything at all is sort of the approach that I take but what I did do in the
video was I showed a sample video shot with the flip or I shot another video
with the flip so I let people make their own decision and what they think about the Flip's image quality but I had a
Flip HD that I B from a friend to film uh me unboxing and talking about a
ducky 908 DK 2 you're such a
dork if you can find that video prop this guy he does unboxings I don't know
the account name to that YouTube I don't know the password to that mysterious
account name to that YouTube so I can't help you find it but it's out there somewhere
um I don't even know if I'm in it I think I just talk and like I'm holding
it towards the thing oh so it's like one of those like um like the horrible P
unboxing you can't see anything in like a dimly lit room and you're like oh yeah
I'm really excited about this like mouth breathing into the
camera so cool it's not even like it's pretty bad
basically what I do is show off Blue switches that's basically what I did
anyways yeah um that's why I had that flip and then I still have it because I
haven't seen that guy since okay here we go hey someone defending EA EA acquired
Criterion which are still alive and making happy you know what hold on we're not done with the links this thing so
we'll go back to that hold on okay the look on your face kind of said it all
but uh so guys you know what I'd love
let's ah let's reach out to the twitch chat for a change I love you guys um so
tell us what you think about the
lynis uh the lynxis deal where they are
being there we go where they are being
acquired by Bellin just seems like such a strange
thing so let's scroll down to the bottom someone just said I hate that Fallout 3
doesn't work on Windows 7 it does fix it
someone doesn't care someone loves bacon I think belin's a good company Cisco
something bankrupt and something holy crap wow it now I remember why we don't
use can't read it okay lynxis is the
whole R uh okay you know what I give up
can one of the mods put on slow mode ah it's okay we're
done that that was pretty much it I mean for me belin's uh I mean okay so why did
Cisco get rid of it because and see this
is this is the thing that kind of kills me about the way business is done versus
the way that uh a normal person might think make sense so Cisco has a certain
profit margin that they have to maintain in order to please their shareholders
and to make their numbers look good so it doesn't matter how much money they're
making in general it's the percentages and everything it's it's making sure
that those numbers all keep growing so
you have to grow how much revenue you're doing you have to grow your profit
margin you have to grow your market share you have to grow your unit sold
you have to grow them all at the same time that's what gives shareholders a
big happy smiley face and makes them invest money into your company so if I'm
Cisco and I'm like okay so I own this linkis consumer consumer brand and they
sell routers and maybe compared to Cisco equipment which
has well into double digits margins on
it oh yeah like well into double digits margins Because the actual bomb cost of
a high-end Cisco switch is not this the
opposite of that is peanuts compared to the development and the software that
went into it so if they can sell once they're done developing the the thing if
they can actually sell any of them then they're
like and the thing is they'll probably sell quite a few yeah whereas with a
consumer product okay you have to put in all that work developing it but you have
to make it up in volume because you're not making more than maybe 20 30 points
on actually selling the thing so and
then you got to deal with retailers and they want all these backend programs and
you got to deal with end users and they want all this you know you got people
calling you and they're like um the
lights aren't on did you plug it in well no my internet's not
working um do you have internet is it the
WPS does that open the port so that's the kind of thing that a
company like Cisco is not really set up for or accustomed to so the amount of
overhead that goes into dealing with retail consumer Brands and how low the
margins are compared to their traditional business so if I was sort of
the only one making the decision I'd go okay well are they
profitable yes are they doing business
are they employing people are they providing a good service to their
customers yes yes yes yes okay leave it
alone what's wrong with it whereas from
a bigger business perspective are they profitable is not as important as are
they growing our profit margin so there you go Belin on the
other hand is accustomed to the low margin sort of consumer oriented
branding business uh the one concern I'd
have about Belin is do they have the do
they have the coonies to do the kinds of things that lynis did where they had
very long-term SKS things like wrt54
ran forever amazing things like ea4500
even have a long life cycle compared to what I've seen from typical Belin
consumer products where they just they're there and then they kind of
they're on fire sale and then they're gone um so yeah I'm I'm I'm very very
interested to see how how all of that shapes down I mean it comes down to that
theme that we had when we excuse me when we were talking about motherboards
before where it's that cons consolidation so how many networking
guys are left compared to how many there were
before okay well Cisco doesn't care so
just so you know Cisco did nothing wrong
they got rid of an asset it's not their problem anymore oh they made a bunch of
money selling it and or no they didn't they lost a lot of money because they
acquired it for like five billion or something back yeah but they made Instant Cash okay yes they have cash in
the bank my friend's GPU died out of nowhere sometimes
happens uh sure why
not uh oh Vector nice scared you don't
click on buttons man he seemed like
pretty coherent didn't the last one seemed pretty coherent yeah I think so
and we all got screamed at 75 to $100
mid Tower get a Define
R4 well I know uh GTX 680 now wait for
you know what this is always the internal question let me put it this way
uh if you can afford a GTX 680 right now and it meets your performance
requirements go for it GTX 700 series is
going to be a lot more expensive than you can acquire a 6804 right now there's
at NC this week There's a GTX 670 for
what was it 2 280 or something it's like
289 or 299 or something under $300 after
it comes with Assassin Creed 3 after a mail and rebate comes with a game um so
yeah will a 700 series perform better yes will it cost probably double to
Triple that yes it will so it's up to
you man and one thing you can always do is we don't necessarily support on our
forums yet because of multiple reasons but you can jump on a hardware Forum
move your card after you buy it and pick up a higher-end one yeah or better yet
find someone who's unloading their 680 in anticipation of 700 series right now
cuz I guarantee you they're out there yep they're out there they're out there
ni I'm looking for a CPU Cooler and an SSD I'm a heavy gamer which has
absolutely nothing to do with your CPU Cooler or your SSD but grab an h100i and
grab either an 840 Pro 256 gig or a vector 256 gig lus it's 1:00 a.m. here
I'm sorry I can't stay I'm sorry too Brian lus have my babies it really
doesn't work that way that's not really a tech tip but uh you'll just have to
trust me on this one yes quickfire TK is a great keyboard for a non-s spacious
area um sorry I don't have time for that
right now hi Puerto Rico please fix the focus of the live stream is the focus
off I think it's on autofocus so I think it's going back and forth I can try and
fix that uh sure okay slicks on it is
PCIe 3.0 capable by AMD motherboards only compatible with visher
architecture uh yes wait what what the
heck is he talking about vishera and bulldozzer are the same thing vishera is
an architecture made up of bulldozer cores so any of the newer FX
8350 80 or 6300 what am I doing I need
you to move into the middle cuz it seems in when it focuses move to the middle yeah cuz I need to be able to see you
when it's trying to focus okay
okay is that
better it's actually hard to make it
focus when you're doing that all right I think that's good though uh slick did
you kill par he says no okay no doesn't
Belin still make their own routers isn't this sort of anti-competitive what do
you think Belin is going to do with it they'll probably still maintain both brands in much the same way that Cisco
never well they did kind of Rebrand all the rers Cisco but I don't know what was
up with that that was only near the end was it Apple had a motherboard Market uh
okay we're talking guys we're talking about branded motherboards sold on their
own guess I won't buy linkx this
anymore 4500s are still going to be awesome even when doesn't own it uh yes
we don't bench on a C70 we use that as our thermal test bench I still bench do
you well okay sort of that's a bench yeah it's just a thermal
bench I saw it earlier didn't want to
say anything so let's just leave that there for a bit oh my God that's awkward
um Jason Lee asks why not sell linkis to dink Rus my bet would be that they
didn't actually have enough money or care to buy it um ASUS is quickly
gaining Market share in the networking space they are just
rolling like freaking huge so it kind of makes sense ASUS is just ASUS where
you're just kind of like okay the first generation product might not be perfect
and the second generation product might not still be perfect but the third
generation one will just sort of roll everything else and everyone else might
as well just go home they'll take a bit but they'll get it right and then they'll just Crush yeah that's acus for
you it's like it's like their their mission statement just must just be like
take your time destroy go into new categories question
mark destroy because they're ASUS I mean it's
not I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing I'm an ASUS kind of guy uh AMD
win stock clock crisis
Warhead I don't know about this I'm running away my friends oh okay uh okay
I think we we've caught up okay so let's talk about th you being gone bye-bye
okay so so where did it all go consolidation is the theme of the night
I couldn't find the exact post that I Foundation is the theme tell me more
about the post I couldn't find the exact post that I used for n link weekly I
don't know I looked for it quite a bit using the exact same we filed an episode of n link weekly today that had all of
the numbers on it as well but it might not be live yet yeah um but I do have
the company Acquisitions so Sega acquired Relic who makes company heroes
in warh Hammer um cotch media how does Sega still exist and THQ doesn't that's
what I want to know it actually kind of blows my mind I have no idea like I
think Sega own like I don't know this I wish I did but I think Sega kind of just
owns a lot of stuff I know they do so who cares they're just a they're they're
in they're a parent company now it doesn't
matter coach media the guys that bought volition they're a parent company right
okay they own the they own the company that makes Dead Island okay and Dead
Island wasn't that just one game no they made Dead Island too I'm pretty sure
okay so it was one game twice yeah okay
cool um so wasn't it like not a very well regarded game some people really
liked it I've heard kind of broad ends of the spectrum on each side okay some
people liked it a lot or absolutely hated it I think it had fun multiplayer
okay or Co-op or something I never actually played it Co-op zombie games is
kind of hard to go wrong yeah so like I think that's kind of their thing there
I'm not entirely sure though coach cotch I'm not sure how to say this but cotch
media uh took out volition which has
Saints Row and they bought Metro so 2033
and the rights to 2034 okay and then
krych grabbed Homefront which I think krych is already making Homefront to so
they just bought the whole thing so now it's theirs instead of buying the rights
to do it temporarily okay instead of being a developer for yeah yeah so now
they own the whole thing so they just basically were like okay we'll take that
if you're offering it all right I me if it's if they knew they were making
actually that's probably a really good sign oh yeah cuz krych knows their
business and if krych thinks whatever they're working on is like going to be
good then I sort of trust krych inherently that's good take two who is
2K and Rockstar grabbed evolve which is
a code name project so not sure what
that is could it be a new uh what was
that that game by The Sims guy that no one cared
about sport sport yeah maybe it's a new sport probably not I don't think so I
think wasn't that one of like the biggest devastating so stoked for that
game I bought the like pre-released character creator thing and I bought the
game and was just like what is this is it that bad yeah I paid I played one
fulltime through just cuz I was like no I bought both these things I will play
it but I just that was a waste of time huh it's just not like they War I gold
pre bu they developed it for like ridiculous amounts of time yeah oh yeah
I don't remember how long it was and then it was just like devastating oh
this feels like an indie game that you developed in like a couple months well
it was one of those like Allen wake type things where it's like I'm sorry you
were working on this game for how long yeah and then you ended up with what was
apparently I never played it but was apparently a pretty decent game Alan
Wake yeah yeah lots of people like it but I mean they were talking about Allan
Wake when I was running a 9600 Pro like
I've been talking about this stuff for a long time then it comes out and sucks Ubisoft grabbed South Park Stick of
Truth so have you seen videos for that
no it actually looks like the first game based off like a TV show that I would
actually be interested in I did play the South Park game for N64 though the
snowball fight was awesome I think South Park is the only one that can like
really pull it off well they have the like the character style already that
they' adapt very well they have sort of as long as they've actually got the
writing team involved to make it I think they did South Park humor like there's
been Simpsons G games that if I hear correctly are somewhat oh The Simpsons
Sid scroller is awesome the old arcade game I've never played no I've heard of
it but I've never played oh it's freaking amazing it's like the best sides scroller you're like Bart and
you're like swinging your skateboard around and like that's awesome yeah like
bad guys all look like uh Principal Skinner or whatever and like yeah no
it's awesome that's sweet so amazing but like actually pretty stoked for that and
then they just completely consumed THQ Montreal I just went like oh I see there
ours now so yeah there's one wait I
don't think you ever said Ubisoft that's what I don't did you say
Ubisoft I think Ubisoft took over South Park SE of Truth and Montreal I think
and then they yeah I think there's one
title I don't remember which one it is it's the group that makes
Darksiders they have not been purchased yet and that's because they are not up
for sale okay I'm not entirely sure what's going on there I think it might
be part of the bankruptcy deal but they
are not up for sale which is kind of sucky because dark starters was actually
pretty awesome it goes to show you how much money it takes to run a publisher
and game developer because it wasn't that long ago that THQ wasn't it like a
month ago THQ ran that in bundle that that yeah that Humble Bundle and they
made like a lot that injected a lot of cash into the company and they're
bankrupt now already yeah like was that did they already know that it was going
down no matter what I think the idea with that cuz you notice like steam
Humble Bundle like they they picked up a new guy I don't remember who it was and
he was like to run their company from there on because their old guy I don't
know if it was the CEO but someone highend um was like I can't do this
anymore and stepped back they picked up a new guy and then he just went nuts he
pushed the Humble Bundle thing he pushed some crazy aggressive steam sales he
just like went absolutely crazy but I just guess it wasn't enough probably
spiraling too hard couldn't pull it out of it and then they just died I bet you
if they were able to survive to things like uh company Heroes 2 if they able to
survive to that release they might have been able to pull it back out right but
they probably just couldn't live that long which is really unfortunate because
THQ is pretty awesome I'm actually pretty upset that they're gone but some
of the Acquisitions I'm crisis yeah or krych
rather krych Ubisoft Ubisoft has been doing really great so far okay lately
now except for you play I'm sorry but
you play is like come on guys what did it do the other
day that was oh yeah we had all the files in the install directory and we
went to play the game and it just it just disappeared gone had no idea
completely gone no idea it was there I mean this is stuff that even uh even
that other one that I even the gross orange circle of origin yeah origin even
origin has that figured out um I haven't
set up my entire house with Inson I haven't had time and one of the light
switches I wired wrong so one of my other lights doesn't work so I'm sort of
I'm waiting is that that one yeah that's why that's why that doesn't work yeah
okay so I'm um I can never find my shoes
my brilliant plan is to go ahead and uh
hold off on that for now until I can afford to do the whole house and have an
electrician come in and just do it for me because it'd be pretty cool I don't
know if inston is the one I'd go with um just because I don't I haven't and I'm
not saying I wouldn't but I haven't looked haven't tried the other ones yeah
I haven't tried anything else and I haven't seen they have in terms of like a software interface for managing the
whole thing with automated like programmable events okay like the phone
app is good and it works and blah blah blah blah blah like and all it all works
but I need to know if I can program things like while I'm away if I can have
random lights turn on at random intervals make it look like you're at
home and what yeah so cool cool stuff like that baby mode would be cool just
have everything in the house turn off baby mode yeah be like baby sleeping
mode just like power down everything
yeah turn off the home theater so then when he cries and I'm trying to go and
get to him then I can trip over his toys and step on his Legos and I didn't mean
lights I me things that made noise calm down I meant things that make noise it's
completely unrelated to lights I don't think there's anything in my house that makes noise you have kind of a eerily
quiet house yeah my house is sort of quiet um lonus what's the Forum server
running don't ask me Forum server running what do you mean what do you
mean Hardware software what are you talking about Apache Cent Apache
Centos uh what board's in there 980f
980x it's a 980x on an MSI Big
Bang yeah yeah oh yeah big bang X power
we had a 650 TI in there that got pulled out and replaced with what card did you
give me I don't know what that was uh I think it was a 2600 XT passive passive
card passive yeah passive card pretty cool um some fsp 400 power supply we had
a stock cooler in there that uh this was due to Slick's utter incompetent
actually you know what I must have had it in there so it's possible it's got
plastic push pins so I think one of them popped out or maybe I didn't have it
quite in enough so that was uh that was causing some overheating and CPU
throttling so we have a stock Intel cooler in there that's like one of the
baller ones with the blue LED and like the copper all around it and like an
extreme Edition stock heat sink to explain a lot of the outages um we now
have a new boss mode firewall and since
it's been installed how many times has he said we've been attacked I think it was like 9,000 times that this one guy
like the afternoon after the new firewall was installed it was hit some
guy was hitting it like 9,000 times and then like that afternoon we're getting
dosed right away so like we've been getting hit pretty hard um we had power
issues today oh that was awesome explain
what was running on what the electricians wired up the tech tips
Studio incorrectly so there's a bank of eight Outlets that's supposed to run all
the lights and it's a 30 amp circuit for these eight Outlets so it's supposed to
run all of the lights and the test computers and all that stuff and it went
out and I'm like what form server goes down I'm fre so 30 amp circuit goes out
I mean what were we running off the thing like a microwave you know 2,000
watt like no we didn't have a microwave so I'm like okay so I go down to the
breaker and I call up the warehouse manager I'm like the only only one
that's tripped is this 50 amp breaker everything else is fine and he's like no
no for sure they hooked up that one to the 30 amp breaker and the other one to
the other thing I'm like so we we dig into it and it turns out that we have
basically the TV in the back of the NC
Tech tip set running off of a 30 amp breaker and then we have a 15 amp
breaker for all of our lights and test benches and everything else and the
servers and everything and everything so
that happens so the electrician's coming in to switch that around and then we had
to find another circuit we had to run a wire from there to run the server off of
in the meantime so it doesn't go down when the electrician comes in and
switches it around and then I had to we
I had to take out the 650 TI I had to
take out the 660ti that was in my Windows
Server um this is actually pretty funny
I'm going to show this someone says I found slick and it's uh like a me hold
on hold on hold on hold onol it's like a meme picture called
friend zone uh keep telling yourself it's better than demotivational poster
yeah it's whatever you're a demotivational poster it does kind of
look like you though actually does it yeah here hold your head above above
that guy I have to go like well now you're so
close yeah see now it totally looks like that's awesome I usually have short hair
though I just haven't gotten a haircut in like seven months yeah
do you want a beta key for Firefall uh I'm
okay I probably would never play yeah I don't really have much no time for MMO
you guys sorry man I appreciate it but it would probably be better spent on
someone else we appreciate it um do we have any other topics for tonight I'm
sure there was something the Far Cry 3 Benchmark video oh I want to know if
people are interested okay you talk about that I'll go see if I had any other notes okay so we're planning a
bunch of videos for like actually some of the cards are behind me
like what card for what card is best AMD
versus NVIDIA so we'll show like the best two cards under different price
points uh for Far Cry 3 so we're choosing three different price points
you guys will see the videos but um I had to set up the Benchmark for it and
it's kind of a fun Benchmark so what I want to do is show my methodology for
The Benchmark so it's if you played one of the uh if you've played Far Cry 3
it's one the trials and it's the one where you're driving in the Jeep and you
have to hit everyone you have to run over all the guys so what my methodology
is you drive around you drive up the thing you hit all the time barrels but
the plan is you don't hit any of the guys to make it consistent because it's
way easier to not hit the guys than it is to hit the guys so I was wondering if
you guys are interested in us posting a video of like lonus describing what the
Benchmark is about showing like me
getting into the game and then showing where where I start The Benchmark
starting The Benchmark going through the whole thing and ending it and then
lineus ending off the video if you guys would actually think that's interesting
content we've never shown our benchmarking methodology that deeply
before like we've never shown the actual run fully I don't think uh I think I've
done videos where the camera's over my shoulder over your shoulder and you're doing The Benchmark but we haven't like
properly shown the whole Benchmark in fraps like on the screen so you can see
it really clearly before and we'd like for you guys to be able to run it and
compare your own system so you can go okay what kind of performance do I get
versus if I was running a system like what they're running that's cool right
yeah and I think this would be really fun in his uh section of the Forum the
lonus whatever whatever ramblings section if he posts that video up and we
can show our results and then you guys can show all your results of your systems yeah that' be cool so everyone
yeah so everyone can see like okay if I get this system it will run Far Cry 3
this well and that's cool because compared to most like uh reviews or
whatever else where you have whatever their revieww system was you don't necessarily you
need more variety than that because the
way that you do a review is very different from the way that you look at
overall how does this game Run on a variety of of platforms because you tend
to do things like overball out the CPU
so that you can see the differences between all the graphics cards whereas
if we have people posting their configurations CPU GPU RAM um it's
probably the only thing that really matters uh CPU GPU RAM and frames per second
then that gives us a really clear picture of what which platforms it runs
best on and what affects the performance of that particular uh game yeah I did
have something that I forget now someone will post that sometime being like I
have a 3570k and a sabertooth with 8 gigs of RAM and then everyone will be
able to properly see what their system like whatever graphics card all right so
I uh I called the Bell customer service
quote uh buttheads unquote on the last
live stream and I would just like to say
that they have proven themselves to me
in in my in my eyes they have really gone above and beyond the Call of Duty
and they actually had did did I I don't
think I even told you this but the guy who called me to follow up on what was
going on so they tracked down my name and my phone number and called me and
they were like is this a good time to talk because our understanding is that
you may have had a negative experience with Bell customer service which I
should clarify it wasn't quite so much that it was a negative experience as
that it was a complicated and timec consuming experience they
um what I was doing was I was transferring the ownership of a cell
phone plan from a corporate account to a
personal account to a different small business account under someone
else's existing account so what I was
doing was extremely complicated on top
of that I was changing my plan and I was
trying to see if I qualified for a hardware upgrade and I was trying to get
a new phone so that's what was going on that's
why I was on the phone with Bell customer service for like an entire day
um they were more difficult than because people didn't really understand exactly
what I was trying to do and for their small business plans they're not just on
the website you can't actually do like a comparison so everything's verbal so
there's a lot of miscommunication whereas finally I just got in a car and
went to the Bell store and got someone
to pull out their cheat sheet that only they're allowed to see it says like
confidential everything all over the top of it and I was like look no one can
give me a clear idea of exactly what's in this plan so how about you look that
way for a minute I'm going to take a picture of this so that if there's ever
any debate about what my plan entails
we'll all know so so that that got done
and then they clarified everything and um I was just frustrated because it took
so long and I was also frustrated because because of what the existing
owner of the corporate account integrated my phone number had done
before I didn't qualify for a hardware upgrade even though I otherwise would
have so uh so that was where some of the miscommunication was there because they
had renewed my agreement when they moved it over to something else in some way so
that's why I didn't qualify for my Hardware upgrade so I was frustrated
about that as well but it wasn't actually Belle's fault in that case so
before you guys sort of go like oh lus is paid off by Bell I can tell you right
now I'm not I pay a Bell cell phone bill just like every other Bell customer uh
they did clarify a couple of things about my plan that I hadn't managed to
figure out until now um but they were
they were sort of deeply concerned that I had you know called because they
didn't say that I called them buttheads but they said that I might have had a
complaint and I couldn't actually remember even mentioning it in the live
stream it was slick who told me that in the live stream I had said something
about Belle so I had to go back and watch the AR time where I was like oh I
called them buttheads that's probably that's probably why they were upset so
our new plan is to call everyone buttheads yeah so we're going to start
with Intel Intel's a bunch of buttheads they're just all they're all buttheads
they're all buttheads but let's see if I get a call from oh right so the guy who
called me reports directly to the VP at Bell or AVP anyway we need to like
seriously call everyone buttheads so I need I'm expecting a call from Craig
Barrett himself at this point you know apologizing
for whatever whatever whatever Intel did
to wrong us blam you for making good CPUs yeah
what's your problem you make so many CPUs that like we can't find any other
things that are better to
buy so there so anyway uh yes I was
frustrated it was probably not very nice of me to call them buttheads because I
realize now that I sort of have a fair number of people watching so you know I
I'll be fair next time and I'll actually explain what happened and then I'll let
you guys decide if you think that the company in question is buttheads or if
they're not so there you go awesome a yeah that
was sort of awesome uh so let's do some Twitter Q&A and then I think we're
probably going to wrap it up a little bit early because I think we're both really tired do I speak for both of us
yes but gabri yes you'll have his babies I was talking about Gabriel's
comment go you're talking about babies bring up marius's comment as well and
yes we love pure Android compared to anything
else pure Android is like everything else should be cleansed yeah no offense
to everyone else who tries to not do pure right I mean I love you guys
but no not really maybe a little bit in some games
but for the amount of extra power it's going to consume a 260 with a what did
you say 670 yeah that would almost slow it down no a 260 is way fast no slick
doesn't know what he's talking about for f x yeah trust me fys X only slows down
if you use like really old fail stuff like 9600 GT I run an 8,800 with a
460 which is a similar Gap and it slowed it
down okay it's not about the Gap no I
know I'm just yeah it's just about whether the card can do the phys GTX 260
is still a very capable
card watching from Norway at a land party go play games that's what I was
saying that's why I said go to Gabriel's oh yeah go play games
Gabriel I mean you can watch us too just make sure you have two monitors two yeah
or like a smartphone which most land parties don't allow unless you're at like a buddy's house no because you
could use um here you have to buy two seats this is what I used to do at uh at
land actually did you buy two seats no okay no no I didn't do that do I
honestly do you think I would pay for two of anything no but I was thinking
maybe a land party exactly so this is what I used to do if I wanted to have
some kind of content that I was listening to at the same time I'd get open earbuds so not in not imem but like
just earbuds and then I'd wear my gaming headphones over top of them so that I
could listen to music but actually have
like my game sound not necess so so if I needed to get rid of them I could I
could take them out at a moment's notice that's sort of so you have your smartphone running the live stream here
and then uh so that would be on like the Wi-Fi network which they've probably got
segregated and qos out the yinyang and then uh you could have everything else
sort of running off of your wired connection what are some games you're
looking forward to in 2013 I'm looking forward to the Star Citizen
Alpha yeah and that's about it Star Citizen uh
oh what is it called planetary Planet
Planetary Annihilation Planetary Annihilation looks sweet does it yeah SS
it's an RTS game but you can like expand to the moon and then like shoot like oh
you can grab asteroids and strap Rockets to the asteroids and bomb your enemy's
base with asteroids so basically it's civilization except after you make the
spaceship there game freaking awesome and like you can fight people with like
planetary object X which is just sweet
it brings back to the like '90s level of just awesome just like doesn't make any
sense but sweet I remain skeptical I think it's going to be awesome it's
Kickstarter game look it up my 660 keeps crashing usually happens during a visual
glitch and comes back in like 4 seconds could be a power issue um could be an
overall system stability issue may not actually be directly related uh neither
neither of those are neither of those are good Solutions uh what graphics card would
you recommend for intense video editing on Adobe software any Cuda capable card
particularly a Quadro Far Cry 3 bench go got it you
still planning on Switching the form software due to all the glitches no no
we're going to stick with v bullets and five there are some issues but uh by and
large it it works works there's a lot of
like okay another bajillion showed out to Mr Wizard and the rest of the mod
team um but sorry rest of the mod team
mainly Mr Wizard we've been like fighting
V Buon 5 to make this thing work um
there have been an incredible amount of problems but we've also made an
incredible amount of progress it's fairly stable right now most the out
outages that you see is because like we were running it in a horrible ghetto
state with like Hardware that shouldn't have been in there and stuff so today there was some oages that had to do with
power and me moving it across the room and to where it should stay for should
stay forever and like we're still working on the permanent solution we and
we got their new firewall so had to go down while the new firewall was
installed but it's like $1,300 firewall so like Yay like we're bye-bye DS yeah
hopefully they can still happen we're we're we're moving forward we're working
on things this isn't a huge budget project so we're trying to like yeah you
got to throw that in hey well I'm not I'm not giving him the budget for rack
space is basically what he's he's not giving me the budget for any external
hosting well we could have done external hosting if it was like that website
hosting plan that included like no St
like how many five gigs of storage or something no what was it for the
database you were allowed to have as many databases as you want but they
couldn't be more than like 10 BS or something or one gig yeah and that was
the biggest plan that was like pretty expensive and he wasn't stoked about and
then we had like five gigs of hard drive storage and like 512 megabytes of RAM
which not going to fly I mean oh for context the server has 48 gigs of RAM so
it's caching a lot of the pages in RAM rather than actually running off of the
256 gig SSD that's in there falling back
to the 1 tbte re4 Enterprise level raid
one that is basically backing up everything what we did have budget for
was computer hardware yeah we had budget for that yes
because we had it but like H there's a
lot of stuff that still has to get in place one thing that I'm planning on doing and I've seen posts about this is
rolling out ads on that right side under the thank you NCI label which is like
just void space right now there was a poll someone put up a poll asking really
some dude on the form put up a poll being like we should do this because they're thinking to help with the
charity drive okay which it would alleviate costs so it would well that
doesn't necessarily contribute in any way to the charity drive the charity
drive is a different thing but it would help us guys make sure if you're not
doing it already just click the like button on all of our videos because if
we hit our Target for this month we're going to donate $250 to the charity of
your choice if you visit the Linus Tech tips Forum in the charity section uh go
there and then you have an option for a lot of different charities that we can
contribute it to it basically comes directly out of my pocket so which is I
think what the poll was about it was about just helping you in general not necessarily it was a thanks for the
charity I'm okay I know but I'm just they're trying to be nice so they said
do you want to put that there and people either said yeah do it or I don't really
care okay no one actually said no so if the form was ad supported apparently
people don't really get bothered by that no they don't want moving ads okay they
don't want flashing like crazy stuff they want like stable kind of normal
looking images so basically they want the ads that they can
ignore no I think they want the ads that aren't like there's a difference there's
a big difference you know which one used to drive me crazy the one where it was
uh it was an ad for some Smiley package and the guy says say something do you
remember that one ridiculous and the other one that I
hate is the one where it's like move your mouse to like punch punch George
Bush or whatever it is because I always just want to do it I want to on but you
have to hit usually it's like a Target you have to hit it like three times or
something so I'll do it like twice um yes so we'll probably be
rolling out ads not crazy ones I think they just don't want that like attack
your face right but we'll we'll put like at least fairly passive ads we'll put it
on the right side and we'll try and alleviate some of that cost uh 2400
people watching tonight so it's a little slower than some other weeks but uh it
is what it is and we're glad that you guys are tuned in we appreciate it 2440
we care about those 40 apparently his e4200 V2 slowed down his internet that
uh is probably something else or like
legendarily broken uh Sean why do I hate consoles
two words and I will illustrate these words although I'm stoked for the new
PlayStation new Xbox because it'll push ported games to be better okay that yes
but okay oh okay well then more than two words keyboard and mouse are words one
and to and then the other things are holding back game development the only
reason we don't have games that have real time calculations and physics as
part of the core gameplay are because they have to Port it to consoles so
there that's why consoles bother me I don't hate consoles he's like think
about it NVIDIA Shield is using a controller good for that I won't play
Shooters on it I can tell you that right now racing games on conses racing games
yay um sports games yay I play
Assassin's Creed on the computer but I use an Xbox controller RPGs yay lots of
stuff is way better on Console compared to computer
um yeah not all RPGs are better on console for computer I think that flows
back on the RPG I'm thinking like Final Fantasy style way way way better console
like you play it with a controller like there's no reason you'd have to play it with a keyboard okay um
um let's jump back on consoles real quick as far as I've seen both of them
are coming out with eight gigs of RAM and eight cores okay so like oh yeah
right the Xbox uh whatever it's going to be called spec leak we didn't even talk
about play leaks too I heard that
there's no way that that happened at the same time no I think PlayStation leaked
earlier actually completely intentional like for them to both be around the same
time you know you got to imagine both around the same spec you you got to
imagine like Xbox EX and like PlayStation Executives sitting
around a table with like cigars and like playing cards and like discussing you
know the schedule on which they'll both leak things and then this and then
launch and like I'm you know I'm not
accusing them of actually doing that because that's not good that's collusion
or whatever it is but uh yeah I just you
you have like that image in your head when these things it's like when you
know AMD and Intel launch CPU platforms at like the same time or AMD and NVIDIA
launch new gpus at like the same time so
yeah uh what are some useful networking programs you
suggest um what what are you trying to do man Windows 8 yeah what are you
trying to do Post in the networking form
yeah in linch tips.com bened marking ideas epic got it all of my yes got it
okay put it two different videos probably not uh h110 coming out coming
very soon um it's different than the h100 because
it's more bigger what do I think about WD keyboards I think they're supposed to
be pretty good never had my hands on one personally I've also not personally used
one and also heard they're pretty good what are the best speakers for games and music for computer speakers just grab
some SP 2500s and be done with it have you tried I also like the the clips Pro
media yeah but that's the promedia 2.1 is nothing like
the promedia 5.1 Ultra was though yeah it has a weak sub compared to the SP
2500s okay I'd love to see the methodology awesome come on to Australia
no too hot 48 degrees CS that's
ridiculous is that even right no is it right I hope not yeah it's like
all desert down there basically isn't it and it's the opposite season Sim City
beta is awesome EA didn't kill that yet all right I heard I've heard opposite
really uh on Reddit there's a Sim City uh Reddit and people are freaking out
absolutely freaking out what's the keybo I haven't played it so I have no idea so
I'm not going against you I'm just saying I've heard opposite I think someone asks this every live stream what
is the keyboard I use on the live stream it is an AO KB 178
RT some games are not meant to be played with a controller yeah of course
not yeah uh would you recommend an fx8350 if you can leverage the course
okay apparently the leaked Xbox specs were faked all right I don't know man to
Washington how far from the border is ex uh depends where you are in Washington
Washington's a big state all right I think we're pretty much done for the
night good night everybody and thank you for tuning into the live stream and
don't forget to tune in to live streams featuring
me and you and me yeah you're here too
yeah you're fired apparently that joke
is apparently that joke is old now someone went like crazy defending me on
the Forum really I don't was like thanks bro didn't actually say anything but he
was like no stop you guys are jerks and I was like that's kind of cool I
appreciate it cool but they must know you're not actually fired yeah or are
you but no like it's I think it's not you that he's he was getting after it's
the crazy amount of threads where people say slick is fired on the Forum well you
were fired a crazy number of times so it makes sense I heard someone was trying
to actually keep track of how many times been fired I haven't seen that yeah no I
think it I I thought I saw like a tweet about it or something we got to try and
add offscreen fires then off screen that's gonna be tough because you get
fired a lot yeah he gets fired a lot I
mean today oh no yesterday that thing where you ran all of the benchmarks and
overclocked all okay okay so yeah embarrass okay if he's going to tell the
story about how I threw a USB drive at the server then I'm going to tell this
story so slick I would like for you to
actually tell me how many times you
think I told you to use a cloud storage
solution to log his maximum overclocks
on this entire table full of video cards and everything else I've ever
overclocked while working with you behind us okay that as well as his
results for the Far Cry 3 benchmarks he ran for six different cards so this was
probably like four or five hours of testing finding maximum overclocks using
crisis which is a good stress tester and then um and then running benchmarks on
Far Cry 3 to uh and then making graphs
making nice tidy graphs that we can show you guys in a video that we're going to release soon how many times did I tell
you to save the files to cloud storage that day alone at least six okay and uh
how many cloud storage uh Services did you save them
to I saved part of them to one okay and
uh what were you saving them to Google
Drive no no what oh oh oh oh what they they were all on was a patriot flash
drive okay what happened to that flash drive I was trying to preper video for
True Crypt didn't realize it was still in the machine and went to encrypt a
flash drive encrypted the wrong one and erased everything so so I go I go so I
go to his workstation and I'm like slick
what are you doing are you finished the benchmarks he's like yeah I'm finished
but it's all gone and he's trying to use a data recovery program to get the files
back did that work how hard did I rub that you know I
don't think I actually fired you cuz I think I basically said something like
that's your training budget he came over to where I was and I'm sitting there and
like never put the hood up on my sweater he's like he's like B okay if he if he
was if he it was warmer he'd have been sweating like how hard he was working at
this oh I ended up running like three different data recovery programs and
like oh I was not happy that was was not
a good time so I was just like what did we
learn okay and the funny thing too is I'm writing him about it now but the
only reason that I gave him such a hard time about this was that I have done it
over and over and over again there's a reason that I harp on redundancy and
there's a reason that I harp on backups there's a reason I have a raid six
server in my house and an offsite raid five that it backs up to every night
because I hate losing data and I've lost a a lot of it the kicker that you don't
know about is that drive I have been backing up because I knew it was
important so I had everything from before the Far Cry 3 benchmarks on it
and I had all of that I had just finished moving to drive so everything
that didn't matter was was backed up to
my personal PC and backed up to Google Drive and everything that currently
mattered disappeared so so guys there's the lesson for you cloud is good uh
backups in general are good um
accidentally formatting things is bad not good so I you know what I think I
said earlier that I'd never lost my music library that's not true I did lose
it once I lost my music library and my entire photo library once when I was
like I must have been grade 10 so when I
was about 15 16 and what happened it was an accidental format and I found a tool
that recovered some of my pictures my problem is it wasn't a hard disk it was
a flash drive even then like accidentally formatting a volume though
oh yeah so that was actually the way that I've lost data in the past has
never been physical drive failure because I've always used raid I've had
one physical drive failure um this was when I was first I think I've told you
about this first moving to my mineral L PC in the middle of building my mineral
o PC and okay um like the hard drive in
my mineral L PC sorry there's a piece of hair right in front of my face
it's is it gone I can't see any anymore
good enough for me go away the hard
drive for my mineral PC sat in like the
the lid on top so the very last thing you do when you're done building my
design is you put it on the top plug SATA plug SATA top it you're done that's
the last thing in the whole build so I'm done my hands are covered in mineral oil
and I go pick up my hard drive you see what's happening I'm
really tired this build has taken me like 12 hours it's like three or four in
the morning because I didn't realize how long it would take I pick up the drive and like all my stuff that I was using
was on one table and the machines on the other table so I pick up my drive and I
go to walk over to the other table it's just like right out of my hands because
mineral oil is so slippery and the side of a hard drive is just like metal like
very smooth metal so I plug it up just and I see it just hit the ground and I
didn't even pick it up I was just like nope I have a new drive here I'm just
going to put that in game over man came over like I know that's dead there's no
point I ended up plugging it in like a month later it's
like like okay I think the only hard drive that I ever killed by dropping it
was my old one tbte external 2 and 1 12
in drive that had that awesome custom form factor like super thick 2 and 1/2
inch Drive I don't even remember where I got that thing from but it was a beast
it was some custom Seagate thing that I don't think many people bought them
because it was really uncommon and I was moving a test bench and I used to keep
the drive not on like a grippy pad the way that I do now so it was just on top
of an optical drive oh slid out
disconnected the wire hit the ground and
well the rest is history but it only had like games on it it was like Steam games
so I was still annoyed because it had a lot of like Steam games and I was in the
middle of bench marking the 6870 video
the one on the wall of Legend and so that video oh that was one of my most
frustrating videos ever anyway you know what we run over time good night everybody and we'll see you next week
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