1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:06,540 Intel's new dragon Canyon Nook extreme is like nothing we've ever seen before 2 00:00:04,259 --> 00:00:12,780 but you wouldn't know it from the outside packed in this shoebox sized 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:15,960 enclosure wait no this one is a 4 00:00:12,780 --> 00:00:20,100 shockingly zero compromises PC gaming at 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:22,560 4K easy content creation no biggie there 6 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:26,880 is nothing it can't do but it's also clear that Intel's Engineers had to find 7 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:31,500 some Creative Solutions to make the whole package come together this tightly 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:35,219 just like I find Creative Solutions to tell you about our sponsor paddle host 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Pebble host offers dedicated servers starting from 39.99 a month with a range 10 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:42,960 of systems for all use cases use code line is for 30 off your first month 11 00:00:41,219 --> 00:00:46,800 valid for the first hundred people who use it spurred on by the rise of the Mac 12 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:50,280 Mini and other single board computers Intel's Nook concept didn't start out 13 00:00:49,020 --> 00:00:55,980 like this but rather like this the kind of thing that you 14 00:00:54,059 --> 00:00:59,399 might find at your local library or gracing the desk of your friendly 15 00:00:57,539 --> 00:01:02,820 neighborhood spreadsheet Warrior these compact machines have been incredibly 16 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:07,680 attractive to businesses for their flexibility portability and most 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:14,520 importantly their cost so then how did this become this and is that even a good 18 00:01:12,060 --> 00:01:19,860 thing well Intel's ninth generation ghost Canyon saw the six to 25 watt 19 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:25,680 power sipping cuboids like this one replaced by a larger 45 watt Powerhouse 20 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:29,640 still no full-size GPU slot but given the form factor that makes sense and you 21 00:01:27,299 --> 00:01:33,780 can always add an external one then 11th gen came around and boom four different 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:37,500 Nook models you got the performance and pro which were still on the micro PC 23 00:01:35,579 --> 00:01:42,299 format then you've got the Enthusiast rocking an RTX 2060 that made for a heck 24 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:48,600 of a package given the size and finally the extreme this guy right here the main 25 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,799 Innovation for the extreme Edition was the inclusion of a modular compute 26 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:58,619 element that contain change the storage slots memory slots CPU and cooler all of 27 00:01:56,159 --> 00:02:02,399 which were designed to Simply slot into a backplane that was pre-installed in a 28 00:02:00,540 --> 00:02:05,880 larger chassis because there was more room to play with the extreme was 29 00:02:04,020 --> 00:02:11,459 equipped with a modular sfx power supply and space for a two slot GPU up to 10 30 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,959 inches long and naturally with extreme in the name Intel decided to give it RGB 31 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:20,340 underglow for that Too Fast Too Furious style and a modifiable backlit skull 32 00:02:18,599 --> 00:02:27,420 front plate but that was last year's model what's new for 12th gen to oh okay 33 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:31,560 we've got the core I9 12900 equipped model and up front there's only one 34 00:02:28,980 --> 00:02:37,020 major change the dual USB a ports are now a type A and A type c that runs 35 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:40,500 Thunderbolt 4. then around back this is where things get really interesting 36 00:02:38,459 --> 00:02:45,180 because above the two and a half gig Intel Network Port that we had already 37 00:02:42,180 --> 00:02:47,160 there's a new aquancha 10 gig Port 38 00:02:45,180 --> 00:02:51,239 having this on board makes the dragon Canyon pretty much the only player in 39 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:56,819 town for a machine this size that can fit a full-size GPU and effortlessly 40 00:02:54,660 --> 00:03:00,959 handle high bitrate video editing off of a shared network drive then we've got 41 00:02:58,860 --> 00:03:05,640 the usual assortment of USB 310 gig ports an HDMI output over here on the 42 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:10,019 compute element just in case you don't want a discrete GPU and two more 43 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,860 Thunderbolt 4 ports each supporting up to six daisy chain devices so when it 44 00:03:11,940 --> 00:03:18,060 comes to IO this thing is absolutely packing and the most unbelievable part 45 00:03:15,959 --> 00:03:22,500 is that even with top tier Hardware inside it managed comfortable 46 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,819 temperatures on both the CPU and GPU even in unrealistic synthetic workloads 47 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:31,920 and all without sounding like a hairdryer I guess that's what full mesh 48 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:36,860 side and top panels will do for you right now let's have a look under the 49 00:03:33,659 --> 00:03:39,599 hood just kind of clear some space here 50 00:03:36,860 --> 00:03:44,400 four captive screws on the back this pops off both side panels slide back a 51 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,480 little something like that you pull this bad boy up 52 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:53,519 and we're in now my fabulous assistant over here has done the same thanks Colin 53 00:03:50,459 --> 00:03:55,980 to the 11th gen version and side by side 54 00:03:53,519 --> 00:03:59,819 it becomes easier to start noticing a few differences here starting from the 55 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:05,220 top the 90 millimeter Cooler Master fans have been replaced by 92 millimeter suit 56 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:07,019 on fans fun fact in computer terms 90 57 00:04:05,220 --> 00:04:10,799 and 90 and 92 millimeter are the same thing 58 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:16,879 they get used interchangeably who knew the other changes are shrouded in 59 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,879 secrecy deep within 60 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:25,919 let's go deeper so the first step to doing that is to remove our Intel Arc 61 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:30,320 Alchemist GPU unfortunately it's pre-release so it's got full active camo 62 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:35,160 so the camera won't be able to see it let me just get 63 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:41,060 this put away over just kind of keep it clear over there 64 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:43,560 be careful handling those stressful 65 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:48,240 lttstore.com next we're going to pull out this little airflow ducts maneuver 66 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,440 here now you might think looking at the back of these devices that they've got 67 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:56,460 you know one slot for the compute element two slots for GPU and then a 68 00:04:55,199 --> 00:05:00,180 final slot where you could put a network card or a Wi-Fi card or Raid card who 69 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:05,520 knows what you want to put in there but actually it's completely bare because it 70 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:10,320 needs that extra space to pull in fresh air for the compute unit otherwise 71 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:14,040 I mean it would be pulling in hot air off the back of the GPU this thing would 72 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:18,000 absolutely freaking cook two more captive screws man do I ever love 73 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:22,020 captive screws the last thing you want is to drop a screw here and have it fall 74 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:27,300 onto this board down here short something out sucks all right let's pull 75 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:30,060 this up and put it out there we go oh 76 00:05:27,300 --> 00:05:35,160 wow that gives us a really great look I got a couple of thermal pads for a 77 00:05:32,340 --> 00:05:41,400 couple of m.2 slots and ah this is another difference in it okay just a 78 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,539 second here let's pull out this guy oh 79 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:49,020 yes gone is one of our m.2 slots here so you 80 00:05:46,919 --> 00:05:56,820 can see here's our sodium slots here's one m.2 two m.2 3m.2 all supporting full 81 00:05:53,340 --> 00:06:00,840 size 2280 or not full size but standard 82 00:05:56,820 --> 00:06:03,539 size 2280 NVMe drives but over here we 83 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:08,479 have just two of these along with our two sodium slots these are ddr4 by the 84 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:14,699 way and the third one has been relocated to the back that's 85 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:17,240 right I'm gonna pop off this right 86 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:23,580 there it goes something that is a downgrade though is 87 00:06:22,199 --> 00:06:29,759 that the original Nook extreme had another 110 millimeter m.2 on the bottom 88 00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:33,860 here and that little trap door on the 89 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:33,860 12th gen one opens up to reveal 90 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,960 a tooling cost savings where they reused 91 00:06:37,860 --> 00:06:43,199 the trapdoor but don't actually have anything there anymore 92 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:48,660 the good news is that while we go from four m.2s to three all three of them run 93 00:06:46,139 --> 00:06:52,080 at Gen 4 speed now so at least they're all fast if you want to take the whole 94 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:57,060 compute element out you'll want to be extremely careful with these antenna 95 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:01,919 connectors we accidentally broke the other one during testing 96 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,440 okay and the reason that I wanted to take this out 97 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:09,840 here we go was to show you the Wi-Fi m.2 in the 98 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:12,120 back here but the back plate appears to 99 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:15,720 come off with screws from the other side which means we need to go deeper oh well 100 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:20,460 there we go that was relatively straightforward just those four around the edges 101 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:26,280 and that gets us a perfect look at actual actually both the Wi-Fi chip 102 00:07:23,220 --> 00:07:28,620 which is Wi-Fi 6E so that was an upgrade 103 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:33,300 over last gen which is just Wi-Fi six as well as our PCH 104 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:35,819 whoa this thing is heavier than it 105 00:07:33,300 --> 00:07:41,099 looked I guess that's what all copper fins will do for you that explains how 106 00:07:38,699 --> 00:07:47,639 it manages to cool this darn thing and look at the size of that Vapor chamber 107 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:49,080 it covers both the CPU and the vrms oh 108 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:53,940 right and we haven't even gotten to the best part yet unlike its predecessor it 109 00:07:51,660 --> 00:07:59,400 has a desktop socket so even though it comes with a 12 900 conceivably we could 110 00:07:56,819 --> 00:08:01,759 put a 12900k in it and see if it would run it 111 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:08,660 there you go oh no problem there's still 112 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,660 time for me to break something today 113 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:21,479 I think this is the only one of these in the building our TX 3080 TI baby 114 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,479 we're going big or going home okay 115 00:08:22,979 --> 00:08:29,759 you know with it pulled apart you can really see how they pulled off those excellent thermals because the CPU is 116 00:08:27,780 --> 00:08:34,440 sucking fresh air in straight from outside of the case and then the GPU 117 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:38,120 same thing is going to be sucking fresh air in 118 00:08:35,459 --> 00:08:44,700 right through the mesh freaking awesome I love it okay we've got the 12900k all 119 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:48,899 fired up and getting it to work was not easy it appears there's some sort of 120 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:53,760 weird current limit for the chip at one amp and when you're running something at 121 00:08:50,220 --> 00:08:56,399 like 1.2 volts that's like a watt and a 122 00:08:53,760 --> 00:09:00,839 bit basically 400 megahertz is how fast it was going we were unable to get into 123 00:08:58,380 --> 00:09:04,500 Windows 11 at first due to a BIOS feature that we couldn't enable halting 124 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:08,700 the boot sequence but it turns out Windows 10 did work we then used the 125 00:09:06,660 --> 00:09:12,899 Intel extreme tuning utility to uncork the current limit and boom there's 126 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:18,120 plenty of performance actually but not all of it we are still falling way short 127 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:23,100 of our prior cinebench runs that were in Windows 11. by nearly 6 000 points we 128 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:27,839 added in tech power ups throttle stop and after some fiddling around we 129 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:32,580 unlocked most of the potential of this thing it appears that we're very 130 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,420 thermally limited not very surprising and we were able to get within margin of 131 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:42,420 error of our original cinebench multi-core run like a few hundred points 132 00:09:38,820 --> 00:09:44,519 well until right now so we were at 16 133 00:09:42,420 --> 00:09:49,260 000 before but with just a little bit of undervolting we were able to get it to 134 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:53,760 19 000. which is freaking Wicked Let's uh just drop the voltage more basically 135 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:58,019 less voltage means less temperature which means higher scores until it 136 00:09:56,220 --> 00:10:02,339 crashes which am I right now yeah because before these were 137 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:05,279 immediately jumping to 100 degrees now it's like in the 90s for a bit it's 138 00:10:04,019 --> 00:10:10,680 probably going to Thermal throttle here but we're drawing 130 watts and because 139 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:15,660 of the lower voltage it's not immediately killing itself oh and it was 140 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:20,640 slower so I guess we picked about the sweet spot for undervolting before 141 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:23,519 negative 0.1 volts that seems to be 142 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:26,540 where it's happiest that's a 4770k worth of performance right there that's 143 00:10:25,019 --> 00:10:31,440 mangled uh it crashed with a little bit of 144 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:34,920 tuning it is clear with an unlocked processor you can get a lot more 145 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:39,720 performance out of this but I wouldn't you know trust it it's very clear that 146 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:44,220 the 12900 that Intel had in here from the factory was the right call like 147 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:49,140 Colin how mad we've been if they had this 12900k in here and you just 148 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:54,540 couldn't use most of it it kind of defeats the purpose you spend 300 more 149 00:10:52,500 --> 00:11:00,420 on an unlocked chip and you can only eat like 18 more power out of it so like 150 00:10:58,079 --> 00:11:04,260 really what's the the point there one thing I do find really interesting 151 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,940 between the old Nook and the new one is that on the old knock I was able to get 152 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:15,420 way more performance out of it by increasing the TDP of the chip to around 153 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:17,640 90 95 watts and it survived it like it 154 00:11:15,420 --> 00:11:23,940 was hot but it could do it whereas in the new one probably because of the IHS 155 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:27,540 and just the space that takes up 156 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:30,300 we can only get about 65 Watts out of 157 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:34,740 this chip for a long period of time just more between your chip and the cooler 158 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:39,180 higher temps as for the dragon Canyon Nook as a whole it's a very compelling 159 00:11:37,079 --> 00:11:44,459 package there's more connectivity more CPU performance 10 gig networking and 160 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:49,680 PCIe Gen 5 to pair with Intel's upcoming Arc Alchemist gpus well in this tiny 161 00:11:47,820 --> 00:11:54,360 little football of a case there's really nothing else quite like 162 00:11:51,300 --> 00:11:58,140 it but the cost while the i7 variant 163 00:11:54,360 --> 00:12:00,380 comes in at 1150 while the I9 we have 164 00:11:58,140 --> 00:12:06,360 here will separate you from 1450 US Dollars and that's before you 165 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,399 buy the storage a graphics card and the 166 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:13,260 memory but don't run away at the price just yet we benched a couple of systems 167 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:17,820 to see what it would take to get all these features and in that context the 168 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:21,300 pricing's kind of same obviously we can make some compromises to Save A Buck 169 00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:26,279 maybe we don't need to have a bunch of MDOT 2 slots or 10 gig networking but if 170 00:12:24,180 --> 00:12:30,420 we want to maintain feature parity we're getting dangerously close to 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