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ever seen before but you wouldn't know it from the outside packed in this shoebox sized enclosure wait no this one is a shockingly zero compromises PC gaming at 4K easy content creation no biggie there is nothing it can't do but it's also clear that Intel's Engineers had to find some Creative Solutions to make the whole package come together this tightly just like I find Creative Solutions to tell you about our sponsor paddle host Pebble host offers dedicated servers starting from 39.99 a month with a range of systems for all use cases use code line is for 30 off your first month valid for the first hundred people who use it spurred on by the rise of the Mac Mini and other single board computers Intel's Nook concept didn't start out like this but rather like this the kind of thing that you might find at your local library or gracing the desk of your friendly neighborhood spreadsheet Warrior these compact machines have been incredibly attractive to businesses for their flexibility portability and most importantly their cost so then how did this become this and is that even a good thing well Intel's ninth generation ghost Canyon saw the six to 25 watt power sipping cuboids like this one replaced by a larger 45 watt Powerhouse still no full-size GPU slot but given the form factor that makes sense and you can always add an external one then 11th gen came around and boom four different Nook models you got the performance and pro which were still on the micro PC format then you've got the Enthusiast rocking an RTX 2060 that made for a heck of a package given the size and finally the extreme this guy right here the main Innovation for the extreme Edition was the inclusion of a modular compute element that contain change the storage slots memory slots CPU and cooler all of which were designed to Simply slot into a backplane that was pre-installed in a larger chassis because there was more room to play with the extreme was equipped with a modular sfx power supply and space for a two slot GPU up to 10 inches long and naturally with extreme in the name Intel decided to give it RGB underglow for that Too Fast Too Furious style and a modifiable backlit skull front plate but that was last year's model what's new for 12th gen to oh okay we've got the core I9 12900 equipped model and up front there's only one major change the dual USB a ports are now a type A and A type c that runs Thunderbolt 4. then around back this is where things get really interesting because above the two and a half gig Intel Network Port that we had already there's a new aquancha 10 gig Port having this on board makes the dragon Canyon pretty much the only player in town for a machine this size that can fit a full-size GPU and effortlessly handle high bitrate video editing off of a shared network drive then we've got the usual assortment of USB 310 gig ports an HDMI output over here on the compute element just in case you don't want a discrete GPU and two more Thunderbolt 4 ports each supporting up to six daisy chain devices so when it comes to IO this thing is absolutely packing and the most unbelievable part is that even with top tier Hardware inside it managed comfortable temperatures on both the CPU and GPU even in unrealistic synthetic workloads and all without sounding like a hairdryer I guess that's what full mesh side and top panels will do for you right now let's have a look under the hood just kind of clear some space here four captive screws on the back this pops off both side panels slide back a little something like that you pull this bad boy up and we're in now my fabulous assistant over here has done the same thanks Colin to the 11th gen version and side by side it becomes easier to start noticing a few differences here starting from the top the 90 millimeter Cooler Master fans have been replaced by 92 millimeter suit on fans fun fact in computer terms 90 and 90 and 92 millimeter are the same thing they get used interchangeably who knew the other changes are shrouded in secrecy deep within let's go deeper so the first step to doing that is to remove our Intel Arc Alchemist GPU unfortunately it's pre-release so it's got full active camo so the camera won't be able to see it let me just get this put away over just kind of keep it clear over there be careful handling those stressful lttstore.com next we're going to pull out this little airflow ducts maneuver here now you might think looking at the back of these devices that they've got you know one slot for the compute element two slots for GPU and then a final slot where you could put a network card or a Wi-Fi card or Raid card who knows what you want to put in there but actually it's completely bare because it needs that extra space to pull in fresh air for the compute unit otherwise I mean it would be pulling in hot air off the back of the GPU this thing would absolutely freaking cook two more captive screws man do I ever love captive screws the last thing you want is to drop a screw here and have it fall onto this board down here short something out sucks all right let's pull this up and put it out there we go oh wow that gives us a really great look I got a couple of thermal pads for a couple of m.2 slots and ah this is another difference in it okay just a second here let's pull out this guy oh yes gone is one of our m.2 slots here so you can see here's our sodium slots here's one m.2 two m.2 3m.2 all supporting full size 2280 or not full size but standard size 2280 NVMe drives but over here we have just two of these along with our two sodium slots these are ddr4 by the way and the third one has been relocated to the back that's right I'm gonna pop off this right there it goes something that is a downgrade though is that the original Nook extreme had another 110 millimeter m.2 on the bottom here and that little trap door on the 12th gen one opens up to reveal a tooling cost savings where they reused the trapdoor but don't actually have anything there anymore the good news is that while we go from four m.2s to three all three of them run at Gen 4 speed now so at least they're all fast if you want to take the whole compute element out you'll want to be extremely careful with these antenna connectors we accidentally broke the other one during testing okay and the reason that I wanted to take this out here we go was to show you the Wi-Fi m.2 in the back here but the back plate appears to come off with screws from the other side which means we need to go deeper oh well there we go that was relatively straightforward just those four around the edges and that gets us a perfect look at actual actually both the Wi-Fi chip which is Wi-Fi 6E so that was an upgrade over last gen which is just Wi-Fi six as well as our PCH whoa this thing is heavier than it looked I guess that's what all copper fins will do for you that explains how it manages to cool this darn thing and look at the size of that Vapor chamber it covers both the CPU and the vrms oh right and we haven't even gotten to the best part yet unlike its predecessor it has a desktop socket so even though it comes with a 12 900 conceivably we could put a 12900k in it and see if it would run it there you go oh no problem there's still time for me to break something today I think this is the only one of these in the building our TX 3080 TI baby we're going big or going home okay you know with it pulled apart you can really see how they pulled off those excellent thermals because the CPU is sucking fresh air in straight from outside of the case and then the GPU same thing is going to be sucking fresh air in right through the mesh freaking awesome I love it okay we've got the 12900k all fired up and getting it to work was not easy it appears there's some sort of weird current limit for the chip at one amp and when you're running something at like 1.2 volts that's like a watt and a bit basically 400 megahertz is how fast it was going we were unable to get into Windows 11 at first due to a BIOS feature that we couldn't enable halting the boot sequence but it turns out Windows 10 did work we then used the Intel extreme tuning utility to uncork the current limit and boom there's plenty of performance actually but not all of it we are still falling way short of our prior cinebench runs that were in Windows 11. by nearly 6 000 points we added in tech power ups throttle stop and after some fiddling around we unlocked most of the potential of this thing it appears that we're very thermally limited not very surprising and we were able to get within margin of error of our original cinebench multi-core run like a few hundred points well until right now so we were at 16 000 before but with just a little bit of undervolting we were able to get it to 19 000. which is freaking Wicked Let's uh just drop the voltage more basically less voltage means less temperature which means higher scores until it crashes which am I right now yeah because before these were immediately jumping to 100 degrees now it's like in the 90s for a bit it's probably going to Thermal throttle here but we're drawing 130 watts and because of the lower voltage it's not immediately killing itself oh and it was slower so I guess we picked about the sweet spot for undervolting before negative 0.1 volts that seems to be where it's happiest that's a 4770k worth of performance right there that's mangled uh it crashed with a little bit of tuning it is clear with an unlocked processor you can get a lot more performance out of this but I wouldn't you know trust it it's very clear that the 12900 that Intel had in here from the factory was the right call like Colin how mad we've been if they had this 12900k in here and you just couldn't use most of it it kind of defeats the purpose you spend 300 more on an unlocked chip and you can only eat like 18 more power out of it so like really what's the the point there one thing I do find really interesting between the old Nook and the new one is that on the old knock I was able to get way more performance out of it by increasing the TDP of the chip to around 90 95 watts and it survived it like it was hot but it could do it whereas in the new one probably because of the IHS and just the space that takes up we can only get about 65 Watts out of this chip for a long period of time just more between your chip and the cooler higher temps as for the dragon Canyon Nook as a whole it's a very compelling package there's more connectivity more CPU performance 10 gig networking and PCIe Gen 5 to pair with Intel's upcoming Arc Alchemist gpus well in this tiny little football of a case there's really nothing else quite like it but the cost while the i7 variant comes in at 1150 while the I9 we have here will separate you from 1450 US Dollars and that's before you buy the storage a graphics card and the memory but don't run away at the price just yet we benched a couple of systems to see what it would take to get all these features and in 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