to pick the right server so that's good welcome to the W show our weekly show
where we when where we w we W on the
internet which sort of another basically just another another word for that now I
don't know what just happened to my internet connection on here but we're going to go ahead and uh fire that bad
boy up we have a ton of great topics for you guys today not the least of which is
of course availability of the Nexus 5 which I actually picked one up so we're
going to we're going to check that out although 5in phones are not really my
forte I've actually got an Xperia Z1 that I'll be checking out over the next
little bit I'm like turning into like this phone person I have like phone and
audio like trying all these phones and stuff which is like not you I'm becoming
disgracefully mainstream so don't don't wor oh I like phones and headphones
don't worry I'm still interested in graphics cards tons of rumors
circulating about the Radeon r9290 as
well as the GTX 780 Ti so we can talk a
little bit about the rumors but we won't be able to confirm anything because we are still under
on a lot of those details which we do have we know
everything our special guest this week is John ringer from TechnoBuffalo also
known as John for Lakers so he's going to be joining us a little bit earlier
than usual in about nine minutes so he's got a new baby at home so I can totally
understand they need to be back home and doing what he needs to do as quickly as
possible uh what are what are our other topics for this week There's PS4 has
some interesting audio stuff going on which is actually kind of like super
disappoint they're not going to support uh
MP3s can we put on our snobby PC Gamer
hats we are the PC Master race yeah PC
Master race hat and our our PCS they support MP3 yeah they support MP3s
indeed um PS4 will have an audio
streaming service through PlayStation which is totally unrelated to MP3 is not
really working yeah more on that later also phone blocks is going to be a thing
now foam block has partnered up with Motorola and project sticky which is now
called Project Ara so we'll talk about that soon all right so without further
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no no no I do not have to like it so I'm going to let you get started with our
first topic of the day which is active steam members
surpass Xbox Live members so it
surpassed Xbox Live members by like a lot I think this wasn't like oh they
passed let's make an article immediately it was more like oh they've been quite
above for a while so active steam members is about uh 65 million Xbox
active members at about 48 million and PSN is about 110 something to take away
from this is that to be registered as an Xbox Live active member you would have
to have a gold or silver account um I don't know that many that people that
have silver accounts but I haven't been on Xbox Live since like a long time ago
so maybe that's more popular now um
about 20 million of the Xbox subscribers are paid subscribers so gold accounts um
but then that pales in contrast to PSN which is at 110 million because it's
free so there is a ton of steam users and I'm happy with this news because I'm
a bro for steam but I don't know how
realistic it really is because I don't think it's actually a representation of
how many people actually playing on those devices yeah and it's one of those
things where I look at it and I go okay I mean you look at app Developers for
example for Android versus iOS where what they'll say is okay yes we
understand that there are a whole whack ton of people who are using Android
devices but the cold hard truth is that
iPhone users buy more stuff they're more in Ed in the platform so I would look at
it and I'd go okay so steam you've got three times as many users no sorry not
three times okay compared to paid so
that is Xbox Live Gold members you have
three times as many users but how many of those people that are invested in the
platform to the point where they're paying a monthly subscription to even
have the membership level they do I mean to them what's another few bucks if
they're buying apps or they're buying games or whatever else compared to someone who created a steam account and
I think I think has a steam account pretty sure the silver members can buy
things they just can't play in the online servers but How likely are they
to How likely is a free member to to
actually invest additional money versus someone that's already put down money
and then that's kind of the same but not as Steam because to be able to be set up
on Steam properly you probably have games right so you're not necessarily
funneling your money through Steam because you can get uh game Keys
elsewhere but I would have to assume that steam would still get some sort of
a cut from it we need to find like one of those uh one of those cheap game key
services to like partner with and do affiliate programs or something with
there ways to get cheaper games and they pay huge commissions to influencers who
are like hey by the way you're buying Battlefield 4 anyway you might as well
save $10 and then also like us we'll get some money too we got that would be a
not bad idea we have to do that at some point should I've been meaning to do it
for a while I know Logan uh Logan has has one of those Partnerships and he was
saying that it's like really okay all right all right
anyway so the most played game on Steam right now at the moment is Dota 2 with
500,000 daily users which is a massive
absolutely massive number and as much as I was tempering the enthusiasm a little
bit there compared to how excited we could have been about this I think that
the trend is definitely going in the right direction and steam isn't even the
only platform I know it's the 800 PB gorilla compared to origin or you play
but origin's getting bigger by forcing people to go on it though do stuff like
Battlefield valve did the same thing hello I mean I'm not saying it's it
wasn't that long ago that Gamers were equally upset with valve for the way
that they were making them I'm putting on my PC Gamer Master Bas I can't it
doesn't like yeah okay whatever but uh
yeah it wasn't that long that valve was doing exactly the same thing so we can't really criticize them too I mean we can
criticize EA a lot yep but we do I think that yeah and you play honestly you play
is kind of terrible too I know I know it's it's very Terri I'm taking
really hard to manage and it's like really hard to redeem codes and yeah all
right so why don't we invite our special guest who uh wife is apparently exactly
like mine because uh she wants him home at a reasonable time tonight it kind of
makes sense oh it makes uh all the all the sense in the world to defend the the
the W ladies out there oh oh absolutely I mean uh you know expecting your
husband to be involved in the rearing of his child totally unreasonable obviously
and I'm sure John will be with me 100% on this because I'm sure his wife isn't
watching this stream hello John are you live with us right
now Delayed Reaction see I don't know if I'll oh there we go there we go how are
you you guys there oh our splitter just
fell so I uh I you broke up a little bit there but let's try this one more time
hello John from TechnoBuffalo welcome to the show thank you very much for having
me it's good to be here a awesome so uh
do you want to tell us a little bit about what life is like with the six
week old bundle of joy that you have going on over there I live in constant
fear of being pooped on you know you
never would have thought that poop had a projectile range but I swear I saw Poop
Shoot about six feet I mean and like
with dead aim right on the
wall it's been it's been good little uh our little guy will be six weeks on on
Sunday last night he slept for about five hours which seemed like winning the
lottery so that means you slept for like three hours because you spent the first
two hours laying there in fear that he wasn't actually asleep yet spoken like a
man who's been there is he asleep is he gonna wake up
what does he need is he dirty is he hungry is can he is he breathing or like
I don't know if you have pets but like your cat will meow or something and
you're like you sit Bol top right you're like a damn it yeah so it's yeah so it's
been it's been exciting it's been the the biggest adventure um of of my life
so far but it's been it's been awesome I uh I'm excited for new reasons to come
home every day that is awesome so this is your first
then this is number one our our first
our first baby uh baby boy Nathan that
is so exciting you know what I'm going to do something terrible to you I'm
going to offer you advice if you'd like any advice about take it really I will
take it because honestly we got so much advice most of which was terrible that
anytime anyone told us they wanted to give us advice on child rearing we told
them to leave our house after a certain point listen I I'll say this I know
enough to know I don't know anything yet so listen I'll I'll take it all right
well I think the biggest thing is uh is you know what everyone else is going to
tell you treasure these moments I'm going to tell you man ride it out hold
in there because it gets a whole a lot better around the first birthday and
right now just sucks support support the lady because she needs it man dude I am
trying honestly I feel like I am uh like a high school transfer student like
sophomore year to try to keep my head down you know and like just make it
through the day is your wife uh if it's not too personal is your wife bottle
feeding or breastfeeding she is she's going on natural so um okay I lack the I
lack the equipment to to feed him although we're giving him one bottle a
day of uh you know the Frozen the Frozen variety let me tell you lacking the
lactation is probably good for you because it's one of those things where
you can be like you know hun I'll get up and I'll and I'll change the baby and
and bring him to you but I mean really that's all I can do so I guess I'll go
back to bed after that if that's okay with you that's dude that I hope she's
not listening to the show but yeah I've definitely uh pulled pulled that one
like I'm sorry like like the well the Well's dry
here I can only I can only do what I can do all right so I know you've had I know
for a fact you've had less time than you're used to in your life to pay
attention to what's going on in the tech world but let's start with your article
actually about the Nexus 5 so I'm just gonna oh my goodness we don't have our
guest lower third that's John he's he's joining us anyway so let's uh let's fire
over to that article really quick here so it sold out in less than an hour is
this about what you were expecting yeah I'm actually surprised it
lasted that long if I remember correctly an Nexus 4 sold out it sort of equally
as fast I mean Google did a crazy job of hying this thing up without really
officially saying a words everybody was expecting it kind of any minute um so
yeah I'm was not surprised that it uh that it sold out and first impressions
are it sold out for a reason it's a really great phone it looks really
compelling considering the price point does it not yeah the price Point's
killer I'm actually can't see but I'm holding it in my hand I'm holding it up
to my my webcam that you can't see uh in homage 349 bucks is a killer price point
you figure on contract two-year deal you know this probably be about $150 to $200
phone so for the extra 150 bucks you know you don't have to sign a two-year
contract just um which is awesome I you don't want it sell it the Nexus devices
you know hold their value similar to Apple's um you know so sell it in a year
it's it's a pretty a nice phone uh you
know I want to put it through its Paces before I do a review we always sort of
take longer with our reviews and we'll tell the audience how long we we use the
device before we just sort of rush to get best SEO and put up a review like
four minutes later that is such a great approach and you know what um we've only
recently started dabbling in phones a little bit because I was never really a
phone guy and I mean the the perspective I bring is not the experienced phone guy
perspective but what I do is I I I force myself to take out my SIM from my phone
that I use and put it in the new one and I kind of go if I'm not willing to do
this then how can I really say that I reviewed this device if I didn't
actually even commit to use the thing so I respect that so much because SEO is
great but it's not the be all and end all no thank you thank you very much
it's a dirty Secret in our industry that folks from other sites that I won't
mention uh you know will rush to get a review up um without really using the
device I uh again won't mention any names but I've been at events where you
know we've been handed at a phone and other Publications to been handed a phone you know the exact same time yeah
their review will go up the next day and will have cited 48 Hours of battery life
and you know what I'm not like I'm not a math major but that that does not add up
and you know the funny thing is I think it's a lot of the I think it's a lot of
the old media mentality here where these I I think it's a lot of the traditional
Tech Guys where they're used to something like a graphics card where all
you have to do is Benchmark it and you measure the power consumption you
measure the performance and really that's all there is to know about it but
to me a phone I go out of my way to actually again this is I'm not a
hardcore guy I don't even really talk about the specs I go this is how it felt
in my hand and this is what I thought of something I noticed that was different
and that's all I really have to say about it and I think that there's room
for the hardcore Tech guys that are running all the benchmarks
there's room for the guys that are doing the indepth plus the real world I
actually used this thing stuff like what you do and I think there's room for the casuals but the guys that really offend
me are the ones that are saying things without actually validating it I could
not could not agree with you more uh on
that I mean you can't just make up numbers you can't say the battery sucks because we tried to play a video for 14
hours and died after eight it's on how people use their phones
exactly you know I want to know if I can get through a full day with you know
being on Wi-Fi for eight hours and an hour phone call and Tech can I get
through a full day I'm not going to spend most of my day watching you know 12 hours of video on my phone like give
me this fat stuff that matter you just don't know a device until you actually
use it and rushing to get stuff out I think makes our whole industry look bad
it's it's dishonest to the audience let's talk about using the Nexus 5 this
is something that I've been thinking about for a little while I actually just
recently got my hands on a Moto X because I'm not high priority like you I
actually have to buy most of my phones and my take on that was do we really
need a 1080p screen in the 4.7 in or 5
in form factor what are your thoughts on this and maybe I I will tell you this we
we have the privilege of having access to to pretty much every mobile device
out there in our office it's it's a really it's a privilege and an honor
it's a double- edged sword as what it actually is you know that yeah
absolutely but one that I I really sort of high and high esteem two out the
people in our office are using Moto xes
if that tells me and they're using it as their regular phone when they have access to anything else um so if that
tells you anything perception of the device it just works it works well um
you know you don't have to have quad cord have a good experience on a phone
you just don't that is so true I mean
you know what this ties into something I really wanted to talk about with respect
to Nexus 5 as well is are we finally
seeing the commoditization of the cell phone in much the same way that the PC
was Comm commoditized and then the laptop was commoditized and even every
component of the PC I mean for a while I don't know how closely you follow PCS
but ssds and high performance ssds were
a big deal for a while and then all of a sudden overnight Samsung took over the
market completely with commodity ssds that performed well enough and were
priced very reasonably is this the beginning of the end where we see phones
like Moto X that don't compete on spec and we see phones like Nexus 5 that come
in and frankly take all of the margin out of the phone that guys like Samsung
have enjoyed for so long are we there are they just fast enough and are they
commodity now so it's yes and no so yes for the technolog it's out there right
now it's no until the next SSD comes out
it's no until everybody's rushing to have uh flexible displays and flexible
batteries it's no until people are trying to get nearfield uh cameras built
into devices um until the next big thing hits then yeah I absolutely think so but
until there's that next whatever Rush it's going to be whatever sort of fake
rush they make the consumer think have to have um you know I uh I think it's
only a matter of maybe months not years before that that next thing shows its
face do you think the consumer is more Savvy to the these days I mean
look how long they've been trying to cram 4k on TVs down our throats without
any content available and with extremely high prices on TVs in much the same way
that they were used to being able to charge so much for a flat panel and then
so much for a full HD one and then etc etc etc and people just aren't doing it
anymore are are we past that or do you think that mobile is not at that
saturation Point yet yeah so I think it's the industry so I think when it comes to TVs and purchase that you make
maybe once every 10 uh people are maybe
not smarter but pay closer attention with their wallet because those are real
dollars I mean you're talking thousands and thousands of dollars uh so I think
people aren't as easily duped look at 3D like 3D is supposed to be the giant
thing everybody's got to have 3d 3d 3d 3d and really not many people cared that
much about 3D no I mean part of the problem to me was the implementations
were so fragmented and so terrible I mean we see this happen in the industry
over and over again where no one can agree on a bloody standard and then the
whole thing flops yeah no you're absolutely right
and when it comes to the mobile world I think customers are are more easily
duped uh and it's such a weird world in Mobile people feel entitled to to things
you know I signed a two-year contract two years ago for my phone where's my
KitKat update uh or or so loyal to an operating system you know if you like
apple and I like Android where mortal enemies I mean it's could you imagine
that same Dynamic when you go grocery shopping like somebody buys a Milky Way and you're a Snickers guy and you just
start like screaming at him like how how dare you like Snickers Milky Way is is
obviously the best you you must be just a gigantic you know ass
face that is fantastic because you know what it's funny because so many things
on the internet are like that where if people actually behaved that way to each
other I can you can you imagine being on the subway and seeing someone you know I
mean okay let's say 10 years ago seeing someone with a Sony disman versus a
Panasonic disman and ending up in a fist fight over
it no you the only thought would have been like wow does that thing skip when
you walk you know you're never like looking
like what it is it is so crazy the internet mentality and sort of the
entitlement that that people somehow feel that seems to be really exclusive
to to mobile and maybe gaming as well gaming is a big one a strange phenomenon
it's like I paid $60 for this game five
years ago why isn't the game developer still supporting servers out of their
own pocket yeah why don't I have backwards compatibility PS4 with my PS1
masters of teros C game I bought you know 48 years ago you
know it's just it's a very strange uh Strange World I much as I try
I still don't understand it and the funny thing is your entire job is to
demystify it for other people so way to go smart guy yeah yeah but that's that
is my one job I'm like I'm like I cannot figure you guys out like I love the
audience they are incredible they put food on my table they give me a chance
to live my dream but some of them I just don't understand the mentality like if
that translated to anything else it would just it wouldn't work now let's
talk about entitlement and support for lower end devices Android 4.4 KitKat um
there was a leak that we're looking at some unexpected improvements I'm just
going to pull up the article here really quick this was posted on the Forum by mg
star so we're just going to go ahead and go back to our guest here so the
original Source was in gadget and we're looking at I mean obviously you've heard
of this so why don't you give me your thoughts on this uh Revelation that
they're looking to optimize particularly memory use to the point where we could
see devices that only have around 512 Megs of RAM still operate
smoothly so I think as annoyed as consumers are with Android
fragmentations I think Google is more annoyed with Android fragmentation uh
and I think they're trying to have more control uh over the operating system
there's a big misconception that Android is open source uh Android is is not
truly open source they release the source code but it's not open source uh
so I think they're trying to uh limit fragmentation and they've done a
incredible job of memory management uh with Android 4.4 so hopefully they're
saying okay 4.4 can run on more devices then app developers can be able to
support more devices they make more money because more apps can be purchased
on those older devices so it boils down to a dollars um decision for for Google
but certainly helps the consumer in the long run as well that's an absolutely fantastic point and actually ties into
something we were saying before you joined us on the show with respect to steam members versus Xbox Live members
where those steam members are the part of this fragmented ecosystem that maybe
some game is released are you really pushing it out to 65 million potential
people whereas on Xbox you know that every single one of those members is
actually capable of of buying the the app or the game or whatever else it is
that you uh that you happen to be that you happen to be looking at so how much
of this do you think is actually focused on smartphones and lower-end or older
smartphones and how much of of this do you think is gearing up for a Google
glass or Smartwatch release coming in 2014 that's so so that's the big one I
think it's me necessarily starting from here on out I think it's it's a
two-prong attack I think it's gearing up for wearables um you know Smartwatch and
whatever you know Google Glass 2 whatever they decide to call their second iteration of it but beyond that I
think it's also a clear shot for emerging markets I think they're looking
at India in particular South America
where maybe the lower spec Android devices uh can get some Market
penetration um you know and also that potential um you know dollar from the
Play Store and that's a very good point because I mean it it blew me away that
in somewhere as technologically with it
as Taiwan I mean we're talking the manufacturing and design of all this
crap goes on there and yet every C drivers got a flip
phone it's crazy in contrast though in Korea almost every single person I saw
had a note a note two or like something else super baller and Samsung's there so
a lot of work goes on there it's just slight it's so funny you mention that our um our managing editor uh Roy Troy
is Korean and we were talking about the difference of Technology from country to
Country he was talking about he said exactly that same thing he says he went to Korea and he couldn't believe how
many people have these gigantic smartphones and and how many women carry
the gigantic you know smartphones instead it was just it's so interesting
from country to Country you to see what what permeates the culture yeah more
than once I saw a chick walking around with like a clutch bag and as far as I
could tell it was for her phone like that was it there was so many chicks and
a lot of dudes as well but so many chicks with notes and giant phones that they held and worked with as TBL
and something right I know right isn't that thing
hilarious it is like a com I loved using it just looking at me like
what what is this thing on my face what is that what's that guy doing he's
crazy okay so uh I think our last topic
here is is a bit of a console topic and actually is is an ecosystem control
topic as well so I'm just going to go ahead and fire this up on the computer
here so everyone can see what the it is we're talking about so this was a tweet
from Michael mallister that sent this over so it's actually the original link
is to the Playstation blog where they
dropped an absolute bomb on PS4 audio
format support so uh here Luke why don't
I let you give the rundown and then John I'd love to hear what you think of this
particular method of ecosystem control so there there was a topic actually on
TechnoBuffalo about this so I'm sure I'm sure he's on top of it um but PS
PlayStation released a giant FAQ recently like huge and it is
actually pretty awesome because it's nice to get some confirmation about
things uh because this is kind of an issue you hear about this giant thing
that's new newly released and it's like oh well I have literally 80 questions
and none of them are answered so it's nice that we got this fq but people
started noticing things like the PlayStation 4 will not support MP3s
audio CDs external hard drives or
DLNA people were just like what the heck one thing that they do support though is
Music Unlimited a PlayStation service which can stream You music for a monthly
fee and you can play this music in the background while you're playing games only $4.99 a month no less John I'm sure
you have lots to say about this let's hear it oh yes I do so first I just want
to say thank you to everybody that's s of sending messages on on Twitter that's
um that's watching the show it's very cool to interact sort of live um so if
there's ever been anything more Sony than good design it's really loving
proprietary formats like really love like really like in love wanting to
marry and make babies with proprietary formats I mean this this is this is the
company that brought us betamax minis
um memory memory stick memory stick Duo memory stick Duo 95 Pro Duo yeah the the
billion different varieties so I am not at all surprised with the music side of
things and pushing their own Silly Services what was a little bit
surprising was the external hard drives and Sony said that they're limiting it
to try and reduce piracy which okay I can I can understand
um you know they probably felt that was a big issue with with the PS3 uh they
plated people a little bit by letting their internal hard drive be replaceable
which it still seems a little bit silly you just get the you know connector and
you can throw an external hard drive anyway that it thinks is internal um so
it it seems like a very silly thing that I think will very quickly be rectified
um I would say come like half a year
down external hard dries will be allowed I just do you think it'll be rectified
because one thing I have to give Microsoft props for is that they made
all the most popular most unpopular decisions they possibly could and then
swiftly backtracked on them Sony has shown in the past that they are willing
to make an unpopular decision and then just ride it out forever forever and I
agree I give Microsoft credit as well for for backtracking they could have run
a marathon backwards for as quickly as
they uh as they retreated on that um I
do however think Sony is really trying to be what they're calling considering
like the anti Xbox this time um so I think they're going to take a different
approach to PS4 and I really think that's something that's going to be rectified if the community wants it to
be rectified very very quickly now sorry
go ahead because I'm gonna I'm gonna go for a bit here so sure one thing to bring up too is it's not just music
unlimited they also have I believe what's called Video Unlimited which I
think is supposed to conflict and try and fight against Netflix and that has a
little subscription thing good luck good luck with that I know yeah not really
going to happen but just putting that there they's such a Powerhouse now oh
it's ridiculous here's my issue with the way that Sony is viewing their
competition as this Sony versus Microsoft head-to-head battle so they're
ignoring Wii U which their right to do and they're also ignoring Steam OS
they're ignoring Steam OS and they're ignoring Android I've been saying this
for a little while and I don't think this is the Battle of PS4 and Xbox One I
think this is the Battle of console and they're better off to band together and
figure out what their value ad is and deliver it versus open more open
platforms like Linux and open platforms like Android where the barrier to entry
for a game developer or an app developer or whoever else wants to be involved in
that platform is much lower I don't know how much attention you've paid to
something like NVIDIA Shield but did you see their console mode
announcement yes I've actually uh Pi I'm
actually staring at NVIDIA Shield right now as we speak good um what are your
thoughts I had a chance to take a look
at the update you a few days before it uh got pushed so there are a few things
I see I actually agree wholeheartly with everything you just said I think the big
difficulty for developers is getting those games on television sets about
things like the Ouya and I think the shield and NVIDIA nailed it with the the
control mapping yes so being a being able to take a game like NBA Jam you
know that's an awesome game but it's kind of tough to play with touch and
being able to just have that already be mapped for your Shield makes it a very very
compelling platform not to mention all the emulators you can download you know
I traveled I was playing Super Mario Brothers on my shield because it was just fun um and you know what we've seen
this time and time again where the more that a platform tries to lock down and
become anti-piracy the more the piracy friendly platform that crops up to take
its place gets accepted because let's face it piracy drives platform adoption
in a huge way and it's the elephant in the room that Microsoft doesn't want to
talk about about the Xbox the original Xbox it's the elephant in the room that
you know Microsoft doesn't want to talk about with the PC it's the elephant in
the room Google doesn't want to talk about with Android but it's there yeah
that's a very astute observation actually um I I completely agree with
that with that statement you are absolutely right I'd be curious you know
and they say piracy what they really mean is we're not making enough money I
mean that that's sort of that's the between the lines is we don't care if
you're playing our game for free we care that you're not giving us money to play
our game um and and that's the issue I
wonder though how much money these manufacturers Sony and Microsoft are
paying to developers to get exclusives Microsoft obviously opened up their
wallets like crazy to get the exclusive titles what if what if they both agreed
to stop doing that that okay let's stop with the exclusive deal uh you know if
we own a studio so whatever if it was formerly bunge or whatever it might be
then you know we'll make our own games but if we stop doing that and we stop
pushing this ridiculous piracy that just locks down our console I wonder how that
would change sales numbers and how that would change you know their end of day
or a scary profit what about a scary sort of uh seiz fire on exclusive titles
where they kind of go okay well let's work together to make them console exclusive and let's compete on the value
ad services like Xbox Live and Playstation network and let's figure out
how to extract our money there but let's stopped fighting on Hardware because
they basically gave up on the hardware fight we saw that they both have the same bloody Hardware in them for the
most part PS yeah EXA exactly the same and they're still sort of like backhand
fighting each other you know I'm sure Sony paid Activision to make Call of
Duty ghost 1080p only on the PS4 you
know so people can think oh the XBox wasn't as powerful last generation it's
probably not as powerful this generation like I would bet there was
money to changed hands obviously I can't back that up but I would I would bet
that money changed hands so tell me this now that you've played with shield and
console mode do you have a Kepler based GeForce um uh PC to stream games to your
I've got a got a falcon here yeah oh yeah we we've been testing it having a
blast with okay tell me this from an end user perspective if Shield is $200 for
what is effectively a a console that if
you have a supported PC so remember Shield is $200 with a supported graphics
card so if you pay $200 for shield you get to stream PC quality graphics and
man does it ever look good to handheld or to your TV with 1080p coming by the
end of the year and the ability to use it handheld or Steam OS with its ability
to stream from your PC as well so having one powerful PC in the house and being
able to Game On Any TV versus picking up your console and moving it around versus
spending $400 or $500 or $300 whatever
it is on a console plus extra controllers plus whatever you end up
doing what is going to be in your list living room six months from now if you
had a crystal ball oh I mean the shield for sure I should say though The Shield
is 300 bucks if you want to buy it on its own yes that's important and it's
not even available in every country yeah but I I totally see the value add and I
give NVIDIA credit for pushing a product like this they know they're not going to
make any money on yes it's it's a really cutting I I thought for sure they were
never going to release this I thought it was going to be a reference Hardware from Tegra 4 um and I went on record and
said then I was clearly wrong um I
really give them I really give them credit I know the folks in NVIDIA very
well they are committed this platform and they like you to see the future and
they've done that same you know that same pitch okay what are you going to
keep in your living room and if we stick with this and we educate the consumer to know what Shield does to not just look
at it as an Android Tablet with the controller you know they will get it
being able to stream PC games that look
ridiculously good anywhere you want are incredible if my wife doesn't want me
sitting in front of my computer playing games I can sit on the couch sort of
watch the baby you know and catch up with Arkham Origins you know or any
absolutely or anything else I want and this is something oh sorry uh one thing
that kind of catches me odd and I was wondering what you think about this was
the release timing for different things to do with Shield because I I think less
people know that uh you can actually play it as streaming from your computer
they know that it exists and I'm surprised that usually you announce
things that have to do with the device before you release the device they mess
that up and in Shield's case they release Shields and it was this Hardware
that everyone wasn't sure what to do with it like what it really does like why does it even have these different
options blah blah blah blah blah and then finally they're releasing all these
options after interest is actually almost waning yeah it it's they've been taking
a very weird approach they're trying to go organic and clearly that just
translates that we don't want to spend a lot of money and a big like I mean it's
true and do a big like blogger education push I mean so we had before this over
the air update came out you know we had a huge um you know WebEx demo
um talking about shield and they sent us U an external controller at HDMI K hook
it up to TVs and all that kind of all that kind of stuff and they're really
pushing it I think I think bloggers for
some reason don't either get it or just don't care I and I'm not that emotional
it's that emotional fandom that we talked about before this is a completely
new completely different thing that I think a lot of the console versus PC
guys I don't think anyone's happy about it cuz I think the hardcore PC guys look
at it and they go go well I don't need a console I don't need a handle blah blah
blah blah blah and I think a lot of the console guys go well then I have to have
a powerful gaming PC I'm happy with my Xbox blah blah blah don't take away my
console and the thing I think people don't realize is I've been saying this for a while this is the last generation
of of consoles in the form that we see them today and I and people tell me well
well I'm yeah I'm going to sit in front of my computer no you're not going to sit in front of your computer you're
going to sit in front of your TV the TV gaming experience is not dead but the
console is dead and I think NVIDIA Shield is actually just a pawn here I
think it's I think it's a sacrificial lamb they're obviously going to lose
money on the whole Endeavor but I think they actually don't care if Shield two
or Shield three or Shield four exists because NVIDIA in their history is an
enaer they are not looking to sell a
graphics card directly to an end user any more than they're looking to necessarily sell a shield to an end user
I think they created Shield out of a need to build this cuz no one else was
willing to do it I think they just did it and went no we want handheld gaming
uh combined with PC gaming combined with TV gaming and if we have to do it
ourselves then fine but ultimately if someone else with Tegra 6 releases their
own thing I think they're happy with that yeah I actually agree with you I I
I I could not have said that better myself I I completely agree with
that you're the best guest ever you agree with me about things you're
awesome I mean when you're when you're right you're right I mean you're not
you're not saying anything untrue man and I would any anybody who knows me
know knows I love a good argument so I'm certainly not afraid to uh to speak up
but I think you nailed it well you know what I would love to give you at least I
we're coming up I don't want to keep you a minute longer because I totally understand the wife thing you got to go
support her as best you can so we have three more minutes guys if you have any
quick Twitter questions for John that you'd love to hear and answer as fast as
he can hit us up uh hit me up on Linus Tech and John I'd like you to take the
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are which I think most of them probably do but talk about yourself and what you
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and got the opportunity to do this for a living um you can you can check me out
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live shows we towed live shows we really want to do more live shows it's just
matter of trying to find the bandwidth to do them but it's definitely like I say thanks s is every year but it's
definitely on our radar I want you to do a live show because you are fantastic
live we have some we have some people on where you kind of go yeah you script
everything and uh you have a hard time holding a discussion for 20 minutes
whereas that is not the case with you at all you guys need to do a live show because I think I appreciate that I I'm
awful reading from a teleprompter I'm I'm not an actor I'm really really bad
so I mean all my videos are all done just whatever weird stuff comes out of
my head all right so here we go we've got a
couple Twitter questions we're not going to keep John for much longer than a
couple more minutes here no problem okay Happ answer Joshua says John you were an
awesome guest on the land show totally agree um here we go John from Evan not
really a quick question oh damn it Evan okay what were the struggles you faced
starting your own business over there sure and we're not we're not we're not
on a clock I'm happy to answer the questions all right thank you thank you
so I mean the struggles were the biggest one I faced was you know so okay so now
I'm 33 and people look at me as a 33y old but they realized when they started
this I was 25 26 years um not really
knowing how business worked I love technology I used to go to Best Buy and
walk around dress myself um you know at
the end of a long day U my biggest thing was when I when I first launched techno
Buffalo I didn't know about how to create a website I didn't know about
code I had you know gotten a little bit of startup funds from friends and family
I bootstrapped it all the way um and I hired a developer I said build the site
he built it and said okay it's ready to launch so I figured great let's launch it um and the site crashed in I think it
was less than a minute it was like 43 seconds it didn't crash because of crazy
traffic it crashed because of God awul code so we had a burn through 40% of our
startup capital I had just left my job this 2009 in a bad economy to make
videos for a living I had no income for essentially three months so the best
long story short best advice that I can give is know your industry you want to
start a website know about a website I I
I was so like blindly ignorant I mean I look back and I just want to smack
myself in the face um no know your
industry before you get into anything um I had the benefit of being sort of just
by dumb Luck first to Market so it's easier to get notice and much harder now
and it's a much more crowded field so if you want to get into YouTube or Tech
World find your own voice let your personality come through don't be a
robot don't copy anybody else's style find your own um and uh fight through
all the hate that is absolutely fantastic advice especially that last
thing any new employee here who is going to be on camera I actually am kind of an
to them intentionally um and the reason for that is because whatever I
can say to you is not on Tenth of what the internet's going to throw at you and
the bit about finding your own voice and your own style is so important because
so many people ask me how do I be a how do I be a YouTuber and the answer is is
is always to be passionate and
understand what you're trying to talk about because otherwise people are going
to people's people's radar is so sensitive these days they're not
going to buy it you're abs abs absolutely and don't fall in the Trap of
of selling yourself for reviews you know don't think you have to give good
reviews because it's going and sent you a product the audience knows be yourself
on camera be genuine and um you know I
think you guys will will find success if you just follow that path all right uh
this is just hilarious and I'm I'm sorry to do this to you but uh please jsy asks
where do babies come from so here's how here's how it happens all right so you
sit at home you don't know I don't even know how to answer that
question all right all right all right interested all right here we go here we
go hold on let's see if we got anything else John do you recommend the Nexus 5
for the price or could you recommend a better phone for the price o no no
better phone for the price Nexus 5 for sure there we go yeah that's an easy one
that was a really easy one yeah um will Steam and NVIDIA will you try to let me
see if I can see anything that uh uh okay we already talked about Nexus
5 Guys you're going to have to go back and watch the archive if you want to hear about NEX 5 from John do you have
any initial thoughts let's make this the last question here do you have any initial thoughts on the Nexus 5 and its
camera quality so we do funny you should
mention that we actually Ju Just finished writing and filming a full test
of the video and still camera quality uh on the next five so if you want to see
that we'll have the post up actually tomorrow Saturday on technobuffalo.com
can we get a short teaser but I will give you a sneak preview it's good it's
good it's not great okay that is very
fair so guys make sure you check that out on TechnoBuffalo tomorrow John
you've been an absolutely fantastic guest thank you so much for joining us
and my pleasure thank you guys for having me I appreciate this was a lot of fun guys make sure that you're following
John on Twitter oh we should have his Twitter handle in there John for Lakers
and uh you know harass him on Twitter tell him how great he was because the
more messages I see about how great he was the more likely I am to bring him
back although I can already tell you we would be happy to have you back anytime you were F I would love to be back and
it's internet I don't do well with compliment so you do you do much better
to just like yell at me awesome next time I'll make sure I have something we
disagree on okay sounds good thank you guys very
much for uh for having me it was was a really a good time and I look forward to
doing it again hopefully sometime soon take care thanks a lot bye bye all right
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to psus because we just talked about phones for a we talked about phones for
a long time you guys want to talk about some hardcore PC Hardware let's do that
thing so we're going to jump into an anct article about bronze versus
platinum power supplies because we've talked about this before um but we've
just kind of like generally talked about the idea of it yes these guys actually
run some pretty hardcore numbers these are hardcore numbers which is what Anon
Tech is fantastic for and if this page ever loads then why don't you why don't
you go ahead and run them through some of the rationale so first what is 80 plus 80 plus is efficiency levels so if
you're above 80 80% efficiency you get
different rankings uh 80 plus Platinum is like basically 90 plus but not quite
so that is how much energy is wasted in the conversion from AC power which comes
out of your wall to DC power which is what your computer uses how much is
saved you're you're saving you're not wasting 80% oh yeah yeah how much how
how efficient the conversion is okay so anyway what are some of these numbers looking like so don't actually have the
sheet up but I remember from memory when you're idling bronze compared to
platinum uh you're saving about $7 and
something remember these are going to be US dollars so wherever you are you can
convert that as much as you want yeah and it really depends on energy costs in your area as well that's another thing
to factor in and it depends on energy cost one thing is like I I don't think our energy probably costs as much as an
ntex does um so our cost wouldn't be the
same as this but O Canada yeah O Canada Hydro power woo um so like there's
there's a bunch of different factors into play which will make it different for where you live but basically
essentially for where an anch did their testing you're saving about $7 and
something when you're idling and you're saving up I think it's like 23 is that a
year or a month a year a year and it's 247 operation 247 operation idling for
an entire year and then under load which is like heavy load 247 for a whole year
you can save about 23 25 bucks so my conclusion from this was if you're one
of those guys on Save the line of folding team and you're pushing your
CPUs and everything like 100% all the
time and you expect to get 3 to five years of life out of your power supply
then maybe not a bad idea look into high efficiency power supplies but if you're
someone who's going to come home and game for two or three hours and shut your computer off other than that maybe
don't shell out the extra money for the Platinum power supply would you get a
cheaper one although one thing I have noticed is that silver and gold level
power supplies are becoming cheaper and cheaper that's true they are and you know what honestly there are other
things that you can do to optimize your system for power efficiency so hold on a
second here is their actual graph where they com they compared the thermal light
power 450 watt to the EA 450 Earth Watts
Platinum so those are the actual two power supplies that they're looking at
and the funny thing about them choosing 450 watt power supplies for this test is
that I have a a point about that more than changing the efficiency level the
80 plus rating of the power supply you're buying buying an appropriate
power supply for your system could be could could actually save you more money
because when you over Buy 80 plus platinum and 80 plus ratings only
factoring down to 20% load under that
load there is no spec there is no requirement so it could be extremely
inefficient at very low loads and if you completely over bu your power supply you
buy 1200 watt power supply for a system that's going to pull 250 watts underload
and like 45 Watts or 60 watts at idle you might be you might be getting the
worst efficiency ever and you would never even know about it and like your
highest efficiency isn't at that 20% where the graph starts it's a little bit
in there so you want to be actually using a bit of your power supply for it to be really efficient all right so
phone blocks has been making major waves
so I think the first person who posted about Project Ara on the Forum is MGS
star so I wanted to give a shout out to you for posting in the lineus tech tips
news section of the Forum but this is the original Motorola post here I'm just
going to go ahead and fire this up the official Motorola blogs goodbye sticky
hello ARA so sticky was a truck that apparently treed across the us or going
somewhere with a bunch of rooted phones some 3D printing equipment and the goal
was this my friends so much like phone
blocks' goal is a modular phone design
that is upgradeable and can be tailor made to a specific purpose that is the
purpose of Project Ara so this is a whole lot of renders from what I'm
looking at right now and not necessarily um concrete proof that Project Ara is a
real thing yet however um let's do a
quick recap of of what the so the okay Motorola is working with phone blocks in
terms of publicity so in terms of publicity so go what are your thoughts
on essentially there was Project sticky Motorola was already working on this yes
phone blocks and behind closed doors essentially phone blocks comes out and
builds a huge Community now Motorola realizes that for this platform to be
open and accepted by a huge amount of people they need a following these types
of devices and these types of groups need a following is that playing audio
nope muted okay so what they did is they decided to partner up with phone blocks
who essentially came up with the same idea just slightly different um and grab
that huge Community that's there that that tweeted about this on the
Thunderclap that that's been following the videos that's been on Reddit all
that kind of stuff you're seeing a summary of all of that over here hey it was Marcus brownley anyway go ahead so
they they want to grab all of this that you're seeing over here and attach it to
their product basically so they partnered up with ph block so that they can get the community of phone blocks
and the hardware of Motorola to come together and that's now here's here's
okay here's I'm gonna I'm gonna summarize the issues and I'm actually
going to use an article from a nonch to summarize some of them because I love
these guys so much and I just you should just go on their site every day that's what I do um anyway so they they
summarize some of the issues so issue number one purely Hardware perspective
there is a tradeoff between purpose building something as compactly and as
efficiently as possible and building something that is more
modular it will be bigger and it will be bulkier and it will be heavier tradeoff
number two that they bring up is regul regulations so FCC only tests single
configurations for approval these are devices that send and receive signals so
having them be modular and just completely interchangeable might
actually be a a a showstopper depending on how how they can get individ can they
get individual Parts FCC regulated what if they work together and then they
cause interference I mean I've seen stuff as ridiculous as a lamp and a baby
monitor plugged into the same circuit that cause interference on the baby
monitor this stuff is complicated and a cell phone is a hell of a lot more
complicated than a baby they're going to have to get each individual part cleared
but what about if you take this one and put it together and it causes some kind of problem but then wouldn't they have
to test that to be able to clear it exactly yeah so it's going to be really
complicated yeah but maybe maybe it can be done and then the final issue that
they see is actually one of History where Intel tried to do this with a
project whitebook or whatever it was called hold on a second yeah whitebook
where they wanted upgradable modular notebooks I mean Intel has been an
advocate of of PCS being a component
business they make CPUs and they make other parts like ssds motherboards not
anymore but by and large they like that approach historically in their business
they've wanted that but even they are not trying to do that on smartphone at
all and they gave up on laptop because
the market showed that what it wanted was tightly integrated devices that are
beautiful and sleek and slim and small and lightweight and highly highly
integrated so I'm going to bring up a couple other things that that I think
here so um here here's here's a big Pro
you know what oh where's that thread on the Forum crap there was a great post on
the Forum that uh that I really liked about about phone blocks I didn't remove
any phone blocks yeah no I know you didn't remove it but uh I really wanted
to give this user a shout out here because they did a great job of
summarizing it it but the issue is that much like the
PC when's the last time you upgraded a
component of a PC that's what I was just going to bring up is the the main
problem that I find is that um especially they're saying like developing markets all this kind of
stuff whenever I see anyone upgrade anything it's pretty much always a
bucket upgrade it's not like a single component uh that happens with computers
that happens with practically everything I can think of to be to be completely
honest um someone still kind of likes their car one component fails they're
like ah it's fairly expensive to fix it I could but I'm just going to buy a new
one and there's a lot of that and that mentality especially on the high end I
don't really feel like it's going to change and and and there's the fact that a lot of the time it doesn't make any
sense because by the time you're unhappy
with something or by the time there's even a suitable replacement that you
would even want there's probably a suitable replacement for some other
aspect of the device that you also want I mean The evolutionary changes that
happen between Galaxy Device a Galaxy S
to a Galaxy S2 to an S3 to an S4 they
they change almost everything they put faster storage in them faster processor
bigger screen better screen they do all these things at the same time and I
think what's going to what's going to end up happening is much like on the PC where someone like I mean Intel and AMD
and NVIDIA are all notorious for doing this oh uh buy this motherboard now and
upgrade the CPU later no when the last time you upgraded a CPU in a system come
on by the time you're you you're ready to ready to spend money on that again
there's a better motherboard and a better CPU and a better graphics card
you take that old machine and you hand it off to someone else or even if you
perform all those upgrades within a reasonable period of time you're still going to end up with an entire computer
or an entire phone worth of leftover Parts there's they didn't go away
there's a few use cases that I see for this there's um the person Ste mine ex
there's the person that's extremely accident prone I know a few um that
constantly break their screens um or constantly break X Y or Z but then we
don't need a fully modular phone for that we just need an easily replaceable
screen yes but none of them are and
they're not really going in that direction except for this where you could take all the modules off the back
buy a new base put all the modules in and it would probably be a lot cheaper
okay because I'm assuming that I haven't looked a ton into Project Ara but the
the screen is built into the base unlike phone blocks right uh Project Ara they
are talking replaceable screen right now okay okay didn't know that so you could just take the whole base all your
modules replace the screen which is awwesome because I know ton of people
that just break their screens repeatedly their phone's still fine it still works
in the background I know a buddy actually like a day or two ago that
broke his screen phone's still fine boots up all good can't see anything
though so not really helpful that would be helpful for someone like that or
someone who has no real interest in upgrading all the time but wants a phone
that can text people call people and take really nice photos so they're going
to spend a bit on their camera module and a bit on their storage module and
that's about it so very specialty yeah now all of that stuff about how this is
impossible that I just said oh yeah the last one that wasn't even brought up by
on but that I think is really important is who who's going to support this if
I'm Samsung and I'm used to selling people $600 or $700 devices that are all
made by me am I going to turn around and go yeah yeah Motorola hey here we're
going to make we're going to make really great components for your thing so that
we can sell something for like 30 bucks rather than selling someone a whole
phone and so you can sell them the rest of the phone and I'm not just talking
about Samsung I'm talking about everyone and it's not even just I'm not
criticizing Samsung for it it's just a reality that would be terrible business
but how much of the device can like okay
one maybe Samsung doesn't sell anything
maybe Samsung sells the parts to Motorola you buy everything from
Motorola right why would they sell why would they even want to sell these parts
to Motorola to support this project we've seen awkward competitiveness
behind the scenes where where Samsung makes some device for apple and apple
Mak some device for whatever and we've seen that in the past where it doesn't
seem to make a lot of sense but they made money but if it's not being integrated at a higher level sled has
from Samsung or from a you know a flash manufacturer or a camera manufacturer I
mean that's the thing is all these guys are so vertically integrated to the point where they'll borrow from each
other but you know if they can use their own sensor design or their own flash or
their own yeah I expect mot as much as their own stuff as they possibly can but
I I think I think it's don't have they don't build flat flash they don't build
processors but it's Google Google makes flash do they know no I thought goog
software only recently flash makers are imft Samsung SanDisk like like Intel
these are the guys who actually so Intel is the crucial Intel uh joint project so
no the actual manufacturing of any of this stuff Motorola has to convince
actual manufacturers who are actually selling this crap in their own devices
to support this Good Luck Chuck that's all I have to say
I think if they're buying it it'll happen Okay so with all of that said
here's my last thing this is how it could work low-end devices y this is
where I see the potential I think that all the enthusiasts getting really
excited about things like the phone blocks promotional video for the thunder
clap are duding themselves because that's not really what this is about in
order to build a device let's say even within the next year or even two years
we'll be looking so to build a device that could have a somewhat reasonable
form factor somewhat reasonable weight and perform well let's say as well as a
device today we'd be looking at significantly downgraded Hardware it
would have to be much lower power it would have to be much smaller to make up
for all the extra room that you're going to waste with the housings that have to
go around each component and with the interconnects that have to be built into
it and the like in order to compensate for that we're going to be looking at
low-end devices and I think that that's where something like Project Ara could
be great for developing nations where I
think all these enthusiasts are getting excited thinking that we're going to be building high-end Uber phones that you
can up you I'll be able to upgrade it with a 16 core processor this and yeah
sure if you wanted it to be this thick or whatever else we are very quickly
reaching a lot of there's a great article on PC per about how graphics
card performance is slowing down and we've seen explosive growth in Mobile
but for many of the same reasons that we saw explosive growth in graphics cards
compared to CPUs where wasn't just that the manufacturing processes were
shrinking the other thing going on here was that the manufacturers were learning
how to optimize for this well phones are
already not able to really benefit from manufacturing process shrinks in the
same way that graphics cards and CPUs were able to benefit for years so what
we're seeing right now is some benefit there but a lot of it is actually just
coming from optimization so once they get a good handle on how to design these
things to get more power we're just going to have to draw more power and
it's just going to have to be bigger and need more Cooling and all that stuff and obviously Mo's law isn't done yet not by
a long shot but for for for Project Ara
to come in a reasonable period of time and be in a reasonable form factor I
think it's a low-end play and I think it makes a ton of sense there where again
replacement parts or lowcost upgrades or
you know saving on electronic waste these are all great things that are
going to happen but not at the highend the high-end you know U developed Nation
consumer has shown time and time again that they want an Alienware or they want
a MacBook Pro or they want these highly integrated devices that have economies
of scale on their side in terms of cost as well in addition to the manufacturing
advantages and the fact that they're lighter and thinner and faster and etc
etc etc not an alien wor so much but uh
they're heavier they're faster I was talking about their laptop specifically
they're faster yeah they'll have like SLI GTX 680m yeah but other people may
yeah but I mean they're faster than a highly integrated solution yeah okay so I
looked up the Google thing and what I was confused about was how they were when they were selling Enterprise drives
and everyone was like how the hell are they doing that are they making their own yeah I didn't end up following that
up so I thought they making yeah okay I think the issue with volume today is
that that's really far away we need to get that closer it needs to be like here
um so we can well don't worry we'll reposition the mic next week I'll just yell more to compensate hopefully that
makes up for that's going to make it Peak because the gain's too high apparently so oh
fine uh so moving right on to Google Smartwatch and Google Glass news this is
of course a huge deal with the Kit Kat optimizations for low power devices with
the my internet is apparently being a giant turd I have you keep disconnecting
yeah I have no idea what's phone the issue is my notebook I think I think it
needs a restart so um you know what well let's just let's just talk about it if
if you let me diagnose this you can talk about what's on there right turn it off and back on again um did you try to
rebooted yes I did thank you it Crow's awesome I actually expected you to kind
of Knight through this whole topic okay pick another topic then maybe do some of
our uh I tried see I'm so used to touchcreen I tried to scroll his uh his
laptop okay I don't even like it go down and do some of our rapid fire topics um
can I do graphics cards no I want to get into that one so yeah don't worry guys
it's coming uh give me one sec so amongst a few things one of the most
ridiculous topics we have this week is actually the massive EXP that just took
up space and uh kind of sat there in Vancouver which is kind of good job you
took up a parking lot in Vancouver which is like super not helpful for all the
people that have serious trouble parking in Vancouver every single day thank you
for that that was great I don't even go to Vancouver and that drives me a little
bit nuts but either way it's a hype machine so we're talking about it along
as a whole bunch of other people um yeah we don't even care about Xbox one I'm
not planning to buy one someone asked me if I'm going to do an unboxing I said yeah sure if I get a free one yeah I'm
not going to buy buy it though so I think your unboxing would be kind of hilarious I I'd just be like oh yeah
okay so it's a black it's a box I think that's an Xbox logo on the front but uh
it's not the first one so I don't know about that but yeah if you if you can
see in that picture which I'm pointing at which you can't see let me show you
how to point at things you go like this this way there you go there we
go if you can see that if you can see the building behind it you can tell how
actually insanely big that is yeah and like the lines on the parking stalls
right here like it's huge it's ridiculous massive it's really freaking
big and then they're just like yeah it's there so you can like go look at it and
stuff I think you can also enter a contest to win an Xbox One or something
like that if you go there is like uh you can do it online too though you can do
okay well so if you go to a URL which is
I was just planning on us clicking on it but it's xbox.com dca1 Source if you go to that
which is a little bit probably sounded weird and I said it really quickly but
oh well you can put in your Gamertag and I think one or two other little bits of
information you'll be put in a draw to win some stuff right now all we know in
that group of stuff is an Xbox one but there's some other like things that they
haven't really said yet I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm going to say some of the other stuff will be Xbox Live
subscriptions and probably controllers and more Xbox Ones or games or games
perhaps games probably exclusive games probably exclusive games just some
assumptions this is like the I don't know I I wanted to have this in here and
I think you actually added it but I wanted this I didn't remove it because I
thought it was hilarious that they just like were like oh yeah there's a big
Xbox in a parking lot in Vancouver go look at it yeah do that thing hype
machine yeah I don't know kind of obscene um okay so my uh my output's not
working here unless it is which we are about to find out it is a I can jump on
to the next one sure yeah jump on to our next one so a gas station clerk took a
bullet to the chest and was okay and how he did this was by having his phone in
his pocket apparently um so he didn't even actually realize that his phone
like was broken or what was the cause of it until he po it out took it out of his
pocket which I think is kind of crazy but he was probably on an insane adrenalin High because he was just shot
at so he probably didn't feel it because of that but it's actually kind of nuts
so his HTC phone and I'm calling that out for a reason um blocked the bullet
made him not be critically injured or died judging by the fact that a phone
blocked the bullet he maybe not died but either way it wasn't going to be helpful
yeah it wasn't going to be a good situation and then the phone made it a
not bad situation I'm wondering how fast he's going to go out and buy another HTC
phone or how fast HTC sends him a free phone or how fast H exactly I bet you
his next phone however he gets it will probably be an HTC phone so there's a
picture of the phone you can see the bullet entry right there and how it just decimated the screen but but it's a
bullet so yeah maybe what we should do is uh instead of drop test is uh
criticize criticize HTC for the phone breaking it's it's ridiculous I can't
believe they think this level of quality is acceptable in today's market what we
should do is we should bullet test an Xbox one as part of the unboxing we should
take it out to a range and just shoot the crap you have a you have a license
right yeah yeah okay so we could legitimately do it without it just being
like you can go to a range and shoot without a license a license is only for
purchasing and um holding on to like having acquiring
purchasing all you can go shooting like you can actually go with someone into
the woods to an area where you can shoot and if they own the gun you can shoot
and that's not illegal oh okay not that any of this matters for the stream but
yeah just putting this out there so we can yeah this would be no problem if we wanted to go shoot stuff okay so here's
what I'm going to have to do I'm just going to have to build us um another little uh scene here guys give us a
moment here oh look at that we already have this one so then all we have to do
is add screen region boo what did I do oh that
was grabbed the side on yeah I got this there we go there we go okay so we're
adding the screen region all right so let's move into our next topic which
is oh you know what I probably kind of did this wrong sorry everyone there we
go let's go move ourselves into the corner
and yeah expit go away okay Google
Smartwatch and Google Glass news so this was from ABC News New with new Google
Glass and Smartwatch Google wants to be all over your body and they're not the
only one if your name is Slick because I want to be all over your body I knew
where that was going all right so the Explorer Edition so first up Glass
Explorer Edition owners can invite up to three others so I actually reached out
to Marcus brownley from MKBHD already I
am assuming that this all works and goes according to plan going to be getting my
hands on this one it's available in new colors with a new earbud which I kind of
look at and I go oh man that's going to look ridiculous but h i I see how it's
necessary but I'm not I'm not super thrilled on it no I don't think there's
a picture but I think it looks it looks pretty ridiculous um but a bigger thing
is that it is now prescription compatible so that is pretty darn cool
that is a really big deal um it is still
sort of slated for a 2014 launch and they haven't said anything about whether
battery life has been dramatically improved in any anyway so um I'm going
to I'm excited to try out Explorer I'm sure you're excited to try it out yeah
for sure and one thing is the new Kit Kat update actually helps with battery
life a little bit in the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi regions if I remember correctly
who knows where they were targeting that smart watches class SmartWatches and
glass so so I think if even if they didn't do anything necessarily to Glass
in particular for battery life I think it'll be slightly better just because of those two protocols all right so our
next thing here boom sorry guys this is going to be a little bit inelegant for
now um and that oh right I I went to it
on my laptop because I'm used to that so
good heck's going on here all right so Google May launch a smartwatch before
Apple the new device would be quote unquote personal
assistant so obviously the one in the picture guys is not a rumored Google
Smartwatch that is the Galaxy Gear from Samsung yeah so go it's interesting it
kind of reminds me of how you treat your Pebble actually which is more like you
get messages there and you'll notice that someone's calling you and then
you'll go get your phone it's not really necessarily like something to do a whole
bunch of things on no and I think that's where Samsung really went wrong they
tried to make it too much it's like oh well you can return text you can do this you can do you know what I can still do
that faster on my phone yeah and I actually I I like the way you use it
because I know even if you don't have your phone on you if I need to just text
you something that I don't really need to reply back from I just need you to
know I'll just be like bo bo bo I just don't even care it saved my bacon a
number of times I was on a court playing badminton and I had left my phone off to
the side as I'm apt to do and I got a message from my parents that they
couldn't bring my baby home and I had to go get him so I was able to go get him
before it was bedtime and then uh just today I had left my phone on the table
because we were playing music off of it and uh I got a message from you I think
and it was important and I was like oh oh balls where's my phone but that's that's good and it
makes a lot of sense and I like that angle actually because that at least for
now is where I think smart watches should be oh if Google's watching or
anyone's watching you know those things that you can keep in your wallet that set off proximity alarms like proximo uh
that needs to be built into SmartWatches so we can enable functionality where if
I go too far away from my phone it'll uh it'll let me know so there anyone
listening there's my uh all I want is 20 bucks okay so if anyone implements that
idea 20 bucks and you can have the patent I don't care no not per just 20 I
just want 20 bucks or even just buy me a pizza there we'll call I think that might have happened we'll call that done
if someone's already done it then whatever oh someone bought us a p oh what I think Brandon has it a pizza I
think so what I'm pretty sure Brandon do you have
pizza I think he was letting us finish our topic who hey there's Pizza wow okay
so someone Implement is going to implement this idea oh so it's from The
Forum there you go a thank you what is
it celebrating I don't think
anything how did they get this address I
know how I didn't give it to them I know how it was you
oh well thank you guys very much for the pizza so uh because because it's what
the alpha male does I'm going to eat first while slick has to uh while slick
has to talk about our new topic I think there's specific rules that you can't
have any I don't know if those rules stayed no too
bad so the FAA is loosening the rules
for E devices on airline flights this was posted by donon whatever man I don't
know what to tell you Del okay so there's a picture of someone using a
laptop on a flight and all I have to say is about fraking time and then I'm
having a piece of pizza yeah it should have happened a long time ago it's been kind of ridiculous even when I was a kid
playing Game Boy Color on the phone on the on the plane sorry not the phone um
when the lady would come by and tell me to turn it off I'd just be
like really like even as a kid how does
what no there's no way this I'm going to take down a plane with my game boy like
that's ridiculous and and it's been kind of crazy forever one thing that I think
is nuts about this is that there's so much crap going on right now and like
the senate had to get behind this to push it through like couldn't you do
other stuff like I'm happy this happened and I do actually I don't think it's
important necessarily but I think it was ridiculous that it existed and I'm happy
it's gone and it should have been gone I just don't think it necessarily needed
the like I don't think it should have been required the amount of as it was
that's ridiculous been so simple now it's not like all the devices all the
time so phones are still not allowed um
unless they're in airplane mode and I think they're still asking for certain
things during taxi and takeoff and you know what some of the concerns I kind of
understand having a bunch of laptops and like trade tables down and all this
stuff going on when you're when you're landing and things could be flying
around in an emergency lot of heavy devices so like this laptop would be
You' have to Stow it which makes sense because like I think it's 90% of the
problems happen within 10k of Landing or taking off so if if if there's a higher
possibility of a problem stole your device that could knock someone out and I get that but on the other hand if I'm
like if I got my earbuds in and my phone's in my pocket come on man I mean
honestly I do it anyway I usually wear a hood when I fly so I just put my hood on
and then I have my earbud going around the other side and then I just have my phone in my pocket and and there's no
there's no amplification of the signals by having that many of them Wi-Fi is
going to be allowed now and I've had people saying why would you want Wi-Fi on a plane I can think of a hundred
reasons to have Wi-Fi on a plane DS multiplayer um you can stream
multiplayer sweet I know right uh you can stream using like uh to your
smartphone using those little like external hard drives that are battery
powered this is something that I do all the time um no it's
fantastic all right so moving on to our next topic which I would normally open
up on my laptop but instead I'm going to open it up over here because for
whatever reason my output's not working I I blame DisplayPort even though I
love DisplayPort so this is something
hard to even call a rumor with a straight face this was tweeted to me by
St toe and it's from overclockers
do.uk where some guy if you scroll down
where's his GPU Z shot I think it's uh
no Catalyst Control Center yeah okay so R9 200 series etc
etc etc ah yes here so his frequency is
wrong okay so there's there's hint number one and then I don't know if we
see spe there we go so the frequency is
wrong and the number of where are the stream processors I don't see them they
must be ha maybe they're not anyway the frequency is wrong this is according to
the rumors which it's really hard to call rumors with a straight face now uh
radon 290 instead of a 290x so a
retailer in Europe managed to accidentally ship a an r9290 to a member
of overclockers obviously the guy is like yeah I ordered
a 290x so I'm going to exchange it but not until I benchmarked it my favorite
part is like people are seem kind of unsure and he's not releasing a ton of
information and then all of a sudden he's like GPU photo of the Box photo of
the card like yep it's pretty epic now there's an
issue with this a lot of the time when we say okay but bear in mind Guys these
are early benchmarks actually there's not going to be that much of a
difference espe ESP with CPUs when we see that I mean they always have it
every single time somehow Toms gets a sample like six months early go back and
look at all of those and it's basically the same performance I mean someone like
Intel has finalized pretty much everything and they're working on
fine-tuning for like the last six months leading up to a launch that's how they
project launch days a quarter or two quarters in advance because they know
it's done I don't actually find graphics cards to be the same they're ramping up production graphics cards are a little
bit different yeah where particularly the hardware was probably done a while
ago but the drivers could be being tweaked in the days leading up to the
launch or even the days after the launch so whatever benchmarks that he's run I
know for a fact that those performance numbers may not have very much to do at
all with how r9290 performs I thought you going the other way and I was like
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa no no no I mean so so guys take them with a grain of
salt but until we know pricing and the real performance of r9290 we won't know
sorry I got something in my eye the whole story all right r9290 and like it
it could be it could be accurate could be accurate it's all speculation right
now yeah all right so moving on to our next
topic this is another rumor this was posted online as Tech tips forum and uh
it's got the classic fry GIF shut up GIF
sorry Shut Up And Take My Money the rumor and which we can't verify is that
the GeForce GTX 7 GTI has 2,880 Cuda
cores all right so that if it were true
would be more than GeForce GTX Titan so
here's all the rumors you guys can check out the thread it was posted by you
better not and of course um the you
better not thing is we better not discuss anything that we're under NDA
about so all we can say is this is what's in that thread there are rumors
out there on the internet that it'll be available in 3 gig 6 gig and 12 gig
configurations um although I think the Galaxy images
are actually pretty interesting are they is it yeah it was it was galaxy images I
think that showed like three different configurations um there's stuff that's
no surprise like support for NVIDIA surround and adaptive vsync that I think
were're probably we I mean okay I'm not going to say it but I think it would be
stupid if something like that was even under embargo but there you go guys the
rumors are out there our card is here we've been briefed on it and we are very
excited to bring you coverage of it as soon as we can but uh that is all we can
really say for now what we can say is that with everything that's been going
on lately between AMG and NVIDIA man shots fired shots fired back shots
returned I mean will these it it feels like one of the ships has to sink
they're going to run out of cards or they're going to run out of bullets with all the launches and
pricing tweaks and performance tweaks and everything that's going on it is an
exciting time for graphics card technology right now and next week we
think we're going to finally see all the dust settle and all the cards will be on
the table and we have a lot of videos coming out next week so a lot of plans
like Battlefield 4 performance roundups stay tuned for that through the roof we
have we have so Battlefield 4 we have uh two different GPU tests coming we have
GPU test coming tonight which is going to be like really really early drivers
aren't optimized yet he's determined to do it tonight it's like not shot yet
right it's not shot yet but all the performance testing you spent like the last two days I'm it's releasing tonight
I'm not losing all that work there is
days ofar iname playthroughs which what we do
all cards overclocked which what we do stay tuned it's going to be awesome yeah
and like yeah the drivers are not optimized yet and there's a few things
and because of that reason we're going to have another GPU followup once the
two other cards that are coming out is sometime in the future are out we'll
have a follow up then all right brothers
and sisters this is a bit of a direct
response to to a particular Twitter follower who keeps trolling me about
well I shouldn't say trolling keeps harassing me what word should I use you
know the guy I'm talking about right Alexander I don't know what is this even
all right this is the uh this is the Forgotten oh yes yes yes I what you're
talking about who keeps getting on my case about not talking about the
positive things about Bitcoin because typically it only really makes news for
us when something disastrous happens like it turns out that however many
percentage of the transactions were drug related or it turns out this or it turns
out that or some exchange shuts down that's the only time we really talk about it so now just for you man we are
going to talk about one of the most positive things that could possibly
exist about any currency this guy buys
$27 worth of bitcoin is now worth about
a million bucks which is amazing so what what he
did was when it was worth around I think it was like 880,000 is he sold out he
cashed in at about a fifth one of his
coins and then bought an apartment in like one of the nicest places where he
lives which is like sweet he bought
5,000 Bitcoins in 2009 for 27 bucks and
the only reason he bought it was because he was interested in
encryption I think he was doing like a paper or something right yeah I'm just
trying to just trying to find it yeah working on a thesis paper about
encryption was introduced to the Bitcoin and was like
I'll buy a for you just to see kind of how it works uh saves his wallet
password somewhere forgets it and leaves it there uh eventually heard about how
exploded it was hunted for his password found his password oh my God I have
basically a million dollars amazing so
there you go man stop bugging me on Twitter about it now all right we've got
some more uh I think that's it for let's go back to our to our headline items to
make sure that we discussed everything um BBM okay but that's not one of our
headline ones so we we've covered all that stuff um oh yeah yeah let's do BBM
all right we jumped over because we talk about too much fun stuff so BBM got I
think 10 million 10 million downloads in the first day now there's a few kind of
interesting speculations about this actually posted by the point blank on
the Linus Tech tips Forum if you guys aren't a member go join the Linus Tech tips Forum yeah we had some people show
up at our Meetup who weren't members so we chastised them thoroughly i' I've
noticed a few of them are already members that's good yeah they did well to do so um so one thing that I kind of
was interested in when I first read this was there was that massive amount of
copypaste purchased reviews M so how
many downloads are legitimate and how
many are actually 10 million on the first day cuz if I'm Blackberry I'm
probably pretty clever with respect to spoofing IP addresses or faking
downloads of something yeah so they got a lot of downloads I don't know if it
was actually 10 million but I have seen a lot of people like just friends of
mine and stuff talking about about it and download it and using it so they are
getting a lot of downloads I don't know exactly how much it is it is actually
pretty cool a few main things that I want to point out that it actually does
is you don't have to give out your phone number to be able to use it which is
awesome if you're selling stuff online or just like using Craigslist or
anything like that or if you're someone like me who wants to communicate with
you know uh followers or whoever else doesn't necessarily want phone calls
yeah so that's actually very cool uh picture picture sending doesn't suck
picture sending through text mess just sucks and yes expensive and is expensive
and there's other services for this but that is just you can have benefits on
two different I mean that's something that drives me crazy the carriers had
every opportunity to just crush this whole iMessage and blackberry messaging
thing by offering more features better security and I mean come on the actual
amount of data it cost them the like the rates that they charge for texting they
allowed this whole thing to exist when they could have just made texting fre
and not had to bother with any of this and like picture test texting is
terrible yeah and always has been why is it terrible I don't know is ridiculous
better attachment support you can send like Excel documents and you can send
all this other stuff which is really cool and it's encrypted end to end it's
encrypted for you and then it isn't decrypted until it hits the other person
with the phone and it's apparently not stored on BlackBerry servers I think
pretty sure um so that's actually really cool if you're someone following the NSA
stuff and you really care about like kind of stuff and there's a whole bunch
more that's just all I felt like listing right now um so my thing go ahead my
thing personally is why the hell didn't this happen years ago and why the hell
didn't they release their encryption stuff years ago oh like their business
grade yeah they should have just flipped gears like I don't know how everyone
didn't notice they should have just flipped gears became a software company
cuz they're good BBM is good their encryption thing was good they would
have been really successful and now they have this massive company of Hardware
stuff that no one cares about and the thing is they could have sold the entire
ecosystem to corporations I mean it's not just guys remember it's a much
bigger picture than just selling individual cell phone users you know um
a secure platform or a secure way of operating their phone or a secure
messenger because you can sell the backend servers that drive the whole
thing which they were already heavily invested in so you could you would have
allowed yourself to not let Android and Apple or Android and iOS catch up to you
you would have allowed yourself to maintain that dominance there and built a niche but come on I mean who could
have who could have known that they just didn't stand a chance that Android was
going to get so much better so fast but years ago they were already
dead okay like they've they've been dead and flopping around for so long which is
what I don't understand like yes there was a while there where they were fighting they released the the Bold
whatever I don't remember the 9300 and they were like kind of cing
along but then for so long after that they were nothing like why not just flip
gears or keep producing the hardware whatever to convince investors that it's
a good idea to do something like that as well and I mean how do you convince
people that you know a free app is the way forward for your company but the
encryption and servers and stuff not free app the BBM thing maybe that
happens later but the encryption and server stuff should have happened a long one way or another guys definitely check
out BBM um not because we're Canadian and we really want Blackberry to survive
just because you know it's crossplatform which is great iMessage is fantastic
except that what it only works with other people who have iOS devices are
you freaking kidding me Apple like yeah I I'm going to convince all of my
friends and family that they must use iPhones because I want to use IM messag
it's ridiculous anyway all right let's move on to the next thing Dell laptops
Dell issued a recall because they had laptops that smelled like catpa um this
is don't worry this is a quick top we're not going to talk for too long about
this but how did this make it through QA honestly like honestly what happened
here I think that was one of my first comments on the document was like what
happened so this was posted by chillx Nate On The Forum so the BBC is
reporting that Dell's latitude 6430u Ultra books have an interesting
characteristic you won't find in any MacBook Air The Palms rest Palm rest
emits an odor that smells like cat urine an issue with the manufacturing process
is thought to be to blame now the funny thing here is you actually have to
contact Dell and you have to still be within warranty in order to get a
replacement now it's a business oriented Ultra Book can you imagine walking into
a business meeting and smelling like cat I mean I have a router that smells
like Bo which is funny enough but then a laptop that smells like cat you can get
all kinds of smells out of a faulty plastic manufacturing process and that's
apparently what happened here it's not a reliability issue or anything like that
it's just hilarious and it's not bad for your health people speculated about that
it got a little bit crazy but it's actually fine all right so our last main
topic of the day before we move on to um
some of the some of our Forum topics and all that is this video right here this
was actually tweeted to me by RTE guys
remember tweeting things to me sometimes works but it's much better and I'll love
you a lot more if you post on the Forum in the news section because we actually
have shifted to almost exclusively browsing for news on the Forum because
we figure what you guys care about is what you want to hear talk about and and
honestly the new section has gotten so much better oh it's so much better
pretty much everything ends up there anyway it's so it's so good I mean our
Forum Community does a great job of maintaining it I mean lineus Tech tips
Forum News section is my homepage so that's how I stay up to date on
things which is fantastic to be able to say that about the uh about what the
community has done there so this video flexible High defin caos displays so
check this shiz out guys this YouTube
video right here here I oh but oh yeah
yeah yeah okay good here we go so let's go ahead and we're just G to um I think
these advertisement I'm gonna watch Twitch chat because I don't know about
the audio okay so check this out guys
just muted that works until now with oxide semiconductors reliability was
generally a problem check out the way that this display wraps around so you
could see notifications on the top of the device it's got buttons okay so hold
on let's let's just go back and look at it again so you you guys should definitely check out this video so it's
got buttons that sit here on the side and they've got a cool closeup that
shows you how you might how you might press I mean this is an entirely different way to operate your device and
then they were also showing off where's the curved battery a curve ah yes
bendable battery design right here that would be huge for wearable tech tech
combined with curved displays curved batteries you could be making bracelets
or armbands or all kinds of crazy awesome wearable techn ology that really
is whether anyone whether you think so or not really is the future I mean I get
a kick out of all the speculation about will these guys have a smartwatch will
SmartWatches be the next yes yes yes it's done it's a foregone conclusion and
this is absolutely amazing and and like one thing about that too is you can bend
it around your wrist if it's flat you can bend it around your wrist 10,000
times apparently before it becomes a problem and you saw their bend test
there so that's actually pretty cool another crazy thing that they had was
like I don't remember the exact specs but let me see here a 13 1/2 in 4K
resolution screen that weighs 10 g go watch that video it's like 4 minutes and
like it's pretty epic a lot of the time I start watching a video and I'm like okay skim skim I just watched the whole
thing I was like I need to see this because it's amazing the uh link for it
will be in the W show Doc at the end you want to start downloading the bill logs
of the week uh yeah sure is is this it
uh yeah oh here for crying out loud at
least we have office on this computer that'll help yes we do okay yay office
which is still the best so we actually have a bill logs of the week this week
and it is pretty epic as normal not that surprised um we've changed a little bit
of the way that we do it uh by suggestion by wher and Dave um my
moderators who found a better way of doing it so we actually have a little
bit of hardware specs along with the name at the beginning so if there's
anything that stands out a little bit we could point it out here the main thing
being that he went naked on his case which is his brother named his desk the
plan and it's basically just all sitting on his desk this is a 24 core four
processor folding machine which is just absolutely Beast well that's one way of
doing a computer case so it just kind of sits on his
desk this is a new way of doing a desk
computer don't even bother bolt it in just you know wood isn't particularly
electrically conductive so no it's probably fine as long as dust isn't an
issue and he doesn't accidentally zap it then uh this is an interesting cooler
layout that we got this is a cable that isn't plugged into anything optical
drive is clearly too far away to reach an IDE or a SATA
connector it's kind of awesome there's a little bit more of an updated shot so
he's actually using a drive cage now yeah all right upgrades and look at the
it came from a fractal case obviously CU there are the accessories and real
coolers and more secured cooling setup
there so he's he's busting out all the folding 24 CPU cores man that's sexy
that's pretty freaking Beast we're a long way away from games being able to
leverage something like this but the folding team's been doing really well and in large part thanks to the way that
folding does leverage more course so that one is for science that one was
kind of in in big support of our folding team and just to show off some of the interesting things that you can do with
computers that a lot of people don't actually realize you can now this one check out the case old Russian
oscilloscope this is pretty cool that is the finished computer wow it's done it's
in there it works um this isn't if you read the other specs there this is not
the highest end computer not at all I just I included that cuz I knew you'd
care because it shows the Finish yeah black prinkle finish it's gorgeous
yeah so yeah so it's not it's not the
highest end computer but it's freaking cool and if you go check out all his
build log you can actually see he takes the whole thing apart like he has to take out the old CRT screen which looks
ridiculous you got to be careful doing that you don't want them to like explode
yep and it's it's a really interesting build log also not to a fan not to a fan
very nice uh so yeah yeah check it out because his build doog is really
interesting he tears that thing apart and makes just a wonderful little
machine which is as yeah as you can see oh that's the 24 whatever we're um not
super high spec but super freaking awesome and yeah I thought those were
pretty cool okay well I think that's it for the W show for this week unless you
had anything else to add I think we actually had a very efficient show today
went pretty quick and covered everything like an hour and a half we ended like right on our Mark and you guys are
awesome for watching 4500 of you are watching by the end of the show here we
are as always overwhelmed by your support uh tune in next week same bat
Time same bat Channel and if you tuned in late or if you know anyone who wants
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once we're done with the live show um you know it helps a lot when we don't
have interruptions I think that was the biggest thing y we didn't have any we
didn't have any glitchiness today so again thank you for watching until next
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add after party guys I'm going to be a little bit late because I'm going to finish that
Battlefield video first uh Battlefield 4
video first and then we will have an after party that's tomorrow morning Ah
that's why they have to want a date in the morning yeah she's flying to China
for two weeks so I've seen her before she leaves oh
okay anyways that was slightly awkward
now it's over why are we doing
that you I can't click it