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to pick the right server so that's good welcome to the W show our weekly show

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where we when where we w we W on the

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internet which sort of another basically just another another word for that now I

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don't know what just happened to my internet connection on here but we're going to go ahead and uh fire that bad

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boy up we have a ton of great topics for you guys today not the least of which is

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of course availability of the Nexus 5 which I actually picked one up so we're

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going to we're going to check that out although 5in phones are not really my

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forte I've actually got an Xperia Z1 that I'll be checking out over the next

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little bit I'm like turning into like this phone person I have like phone and

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audio like trying all these phones and stuff which is like not you I'm becoming

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disgracefully mainstream so don't don't wor oh I like phones and headphones

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don't worry I'm still interested in graphics cards tons of rumors

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circulating about the Radeon r9290 as

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well as the GTX 780 Ti so we can talk a

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little bit about the rumors but we won't be able to confirm anything because we are still under

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on a lot of those details which we do have we know

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everything our special guest this week is John ringer from TechnoBuffalo also

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known as John for Lakers so he's going to be joining us a little bit earlier

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than usual in about nine minutes so he's got a new baby at home so I can totally

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understand they need to be back home and doing what he needs to do as quickly as

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possible uh what are what are our other topics for this week There's PS4 has

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some interesting audio stuff going on which is actually kind of like super

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disappoint they're not going to support uh

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MP3s can we put on our snobby PC Gamer

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hats we are the PC Master race yeah PC

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Master race hat and our our PCS they support MP3 yeah they support MP3s

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indeed um PS4 will have an audio

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streaming service through PlayStation which is totally unrelated to MP3 is not

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really working yeah more on that later also phone blocks is going to be a thing

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now foam block has partnered up with Motorola and project sticky which is now

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called Project Ara so we'll talk about that soon all right so without further

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that fantastic content that for some reason only Americans are allowed to

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have well it makes well I understand why but that doesn't make me have to like it

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no no no I do not have to like it so I'm going to let you get started with our

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first topic of the day which is active steam members

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surpass Xbox Live members so it

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surpassed Xbox Live members by like a lot I think this wasn't like oh they

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passed let's make an article immediately it was more like oh they've been quite

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above for a while so active steam members is about uh 65 million Xbox

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active members at about 48 million and PSN is about 110 something to take away

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from this is that to be registered as an Xbox Live active member you would have

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to have a gold or silver account um I don't know that many that people that

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have silver accounts but I haven't been on Xbox Live since like a long time ago

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so maybe that's more popular now um

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about 20 million of the Xbox subscribers are paid subscribers so gold accounts um

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but then that pales in contrast to PSN which is at 110 million because it's

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free so there is a ton of steam users and I'm happy with this news because I'm

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a bro for steam but I don't know how

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realistic it really is because I don't think it's actually a representation of

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how many people actually playing on those devices yeah and it's one of those

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things where I look at it and I go okay I mean you look at app Developers for

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example for Android versus iOS where what they'll say is okay yes we

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understand that there are a whole whack ton of people who are using Android

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devices but the cold hard truth is that

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iPhone users buy more stuff they're more in Ed in the platform so I would look at

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it and I'd go okay so steam you've got three times as many users no sorry not

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three times okay compared to paid so

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that is Xbox Live Gold members you have

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three times as many users but how many of those people that are invested in the

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platform to the point where they're paying a monthly subscription to even

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have the membership level they do I mean to them what's another few bucks if

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they're buying apps or they're buying games or whatever else compared to someone who created a steam account and

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I think I think has a steam account pretty sure the silver members can buy

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things they just can't play in the online servers but How likely are they

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to How likely is a free member to to

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actually invest additional money versus someone that's already put down money

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and then that's kind of the same but not as Steam because to be able to be set up

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on Steam properly you probably have games right so you're not necessarily

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funneling your money through Steam because you can get uh game Keys

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elsewhere but I would have to assume that steam would still get some sort of

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a cut from it we need to find like one of those uh one of those cheap game key

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services to like partner with and do affiliate programs or something with

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there ways to get cheaper games and they pay huge commissions to influencers who

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are like hey by the way you're buying Battlefield 4 anyway you might as well

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save $10 and then also like us we'll get some money too we got that would be a

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not bad idea we have to do that at some point should I've been meaning to do it

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for a while I know Logan uh Logan has has one of those Partnerships and he was

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saying that it's like really okay all right all right

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anyway so the most played game on Steam right now at the moment is Dota 2 with

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500,000 daily users which is a massive

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absolutely massive number and as much as I was tempering the enthusiasm a little

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bit there compared to how excited we could have been about this I think that

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the trend is definitely going in the right direction and steam isn't even the

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only platform I know it's the 800 PB gorilla compared to origin or you play

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but origin's getting bigger by forcing people to go on it though do stuff like

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Battlefield valve did the same thing hello I mean I'm not saying it's it

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wasn't that long ago that Gamers were equally upset with valve for the way

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that they were making them I'm putting on my PC Gamer Master Bas I can't it

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doesn't like yeah okay whatever but uh

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yeah it wasn't that long that valve was doing exactly the same thing so we can't really criticize them too I mean we can

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criticize EA a lot yep but we do I think that yeah and you play honestly you play

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is kind of terrible too I know I know it's it's very Terri I'm taking

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really hard to manage and it's like really hard to redeem codes and yeah all

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right so why don't we invite our special guest who uh wife is apparently exactly

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like mine because uh she wants him home at a reasonable time tonight it kind of

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makes sense oh it makes uh all the all the sense in the world to defend the the

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the W ladies out there oh oh absolutely I mean uh you know expecting your

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husband to be involved in the rearing of his child totally unreasonable obviously

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and I'm sure John will be with me 100% on this because I'm sure his wife isn't

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watching this stream hello John are you live with us right

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now Delayed Reaction see I don't know if I'll oh there we go there we go how are

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you you guys there oh our splitter just

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fell so I uh I you broke up a little bit there but let's try this one more time

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hello John from TechnoBuffalo welcome to the show thank you very much for having

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me it's good to be here a awesome so uh

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do you want to tell us a little bit about what life is like with the six

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week old bundle of joy that you have going on over there I live in constant

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fear of being pooped on you know you

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never would have thought that poop had a projectile range but I swear I saw Poop

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Shoot about six feet I mean and like

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with dead aim right on the

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wall it's been it's been good little uh our little guy will be six weeks on on

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Sunday last night he slept for about five hours which seemed like winning the

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lottery so that means you slept for like three hours because you spent the first

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two hours laying there in fear that he wasn't actually asleep yet spoken like a

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man who's been there is he asleep is he gonna wake up

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what does he need is he dirty is he hungry is can he is he breathing or like

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I don't know if you have pets but like your cat will meow or something and

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you're like you sit Bol top right you're like a damn it yeah so it's yeah so it's

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been it's been exciting it's been the the biggest adventure um of of my life

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so far but it's been it's been awesome I uh I'm excited for new reasons to come

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home every day that is awesome so this is your first

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then this is number one our our first

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our first baby uh baby boy Nathan that

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is so exciting you know what I'm going to do something terrible to you I'm

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going to offer you advice if you'd like any advice about take it really I will

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take it because honestly we got so much advice most of which was terrible that

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anytime anyone told us they wanted to give us advice on child rearing we told

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them to leave our house after a certain point listen I I'll say this I know

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enough to know I don't know anything yet so listen I'll I'll take it all right

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well I think the biggest thing is uh is you know what everyone else is going to

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tell you treasure these moments I'm going to tell you man ride it out hold

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in there because it gets a whole a lot better around the first birthday and

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right now just sucks support support the lady because she needs it man dude I am

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trying honestly I feel like I am uh like a high school transfer student like

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sophomore year to try to keep my head down you know and like just make it

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through the day is your wife uh if it's not too personal is your wife bottle

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feeding or breastfeeding she is she's going on natural so um okay I lack the I

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lack the equipment to to feed him although we're giving him one bottle a

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day of uh you know the Frozen the Frozen variety let me tell you lacking the

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lactation is probably good for you because it's one of those things where

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you can be like you know hun I'll get up and I'll and I'll change the baby and

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and bring him to you but I mean really that's all I can do so I guess I'll go

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back to bed after that if that's okay with you that's dude that I hope she's

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not listening to the show but yeah I've definitely uh pulled pulled that one

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like I'm sorry like like the well the Well's dry

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here I can only I can only do what I can do all right so I know you've had I know

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for a fact you've had less time than you're used to in your life to pay

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attention to what's going on in the tech world but let's start with your article

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actually about the Nexus 5 so I'm just gonna oh my goodness we don't have our

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guest lower third that's John he's he's joining us anyway so let's uh let's fire

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over to that article really quick here so it sold out in less than an hour is

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this about what you were expecting yeah I'm actually surprised it

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lasted that long if I remember correctly an Nexus 4 sold out it sort of equally

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as fast I mean Google did a crazy job of hying this thing up without really

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officially saying a words everybody was expecting it kind of any minute um so

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yeah I'm was not surprised that it uh that it sold out and first impressions

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are it sold out for a reason it's a really great phone it looks really

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compelling considering the price point does it not yeah the price Point's

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killer I'm actually can't see but I'm holding it in my hand I'm holding it up

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to my my webcam that you can't see uh in homage 349 bucks is a killer price point

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you figure on contract two-year deal you know this probably be about $150 to $200

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phone so for the extra 150 bucks you know you don't have to sign a two-year

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contract just um which is awesome I you don't want it sell it the Nexus devices

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you know hold their value similar to Apple's um you know so sell it in a year

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it's it's a pretty a nice phone uh you

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know I want to put it through its Paces before I do a review we always sort of

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take longer with our reviews and we'll tell the audience how long we we use the

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device before we just sort of rush to get best SEO and put up a review like

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four minutes later that is such a great approach and you know what um we've only

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recently started dabbling in phones a little bit because I was never really a

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phone guy and I mean the the perspective I bring is not the experienced phone guy

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perspective but what I do is I I I force myself to take out my SIM from my phone

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that I use and put it in the new one and I kind of go if I'm not willing to do

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this then how can I really say that I reviewed this device if I didn't

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actually even commit to use the thing so I respect that so much because SEO is

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great but it's not the be all and end all no thank you thank you very much

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it's a dirty Secret in our industry that folks from other sites that I won't

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mention uh you know will rush to get a review up um without really using the

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device I uh again won't mention any names but I've been at events where you

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know we've been handed at a phone and other Publications to been handed a phone you know the exact same time yeah

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their review will go up the next day and will have cited 48 Hours of battery life

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and you know what I'm not like I'm not a math major but that that does not add up

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and you know the funny thing is I think it's a lot of the I think it's a lot of

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the old media mentality here where these I I think it's a lot of the traditional

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Tech Guys where they're used to something like a graphics card where all

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you have to do is Benchmark it and you measure the power consumption you

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measure the performance and really that's all there is to know about it but

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to me a phone I go out of my way to actually again this is I'm not a

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hardcore guy I don't even really talk about the specs I go this is how it felt

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in my hand and this is what I thought of something I noticed that was different

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and that's all I really have to say about it and I think that there's room

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for the hardcore Tech guys that are running all the benchmarks

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there's room for the guys that are doing the indepth plus the real world I

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actually used this thing stuff like what you do and I think there's room for the casuals but the guys that really offend

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me are the ones that are saying things without actually validating it I could

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not could not agree with you more uh on

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that I mean you can't just make up numbers you can't say the battery sucks because we tried to play a video for 14

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hours and died after eight it's on how people use their phones

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exactly you know I want to know if I can get through a full day with you know

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being on Wi-Fi for eight hours and an hour phone call and Tech can I get

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through a full day I'm not going to spend most of my day watching you know 12 hours of video on my phone like give

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me this fat stuff that matter you just don't know a device until you actually

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use it and rushing to get stuff out I think makes our whole industry look bad

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it's it's dishonest to the audience let's talk about using the Nexus 5 this

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is something that I've been thinking about for a little while I actually just

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recently got my hands on a Moto X because I'm not high priority like you I

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actually have to buy most of my phones and my take on that was do we really

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need a 1080p screen in the 4.7 in or 5

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in form factor what are your thoughts on this and maybe I I will tell you this we

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we have the privilege of having access to to pretty much every mobile device

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out there in our office it's it's a really it's a privilege and an honor

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it's a double- edged sword as what it actually is you know that yeah

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absolutely but one that I I really sort of high and high esteem two out the

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people in our office are using Moto xes

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if that tells me and they're using it as their regular phone when they have access to anything else um so if that

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tells you anything perception of the device it just works it works well um

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you know you don't have to have quad cord have a good experience on a phone

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you just don't that is so true I mean

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you know what this ties into something I really wanted to talk about with respect

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to Nexus 5 as well is are we finally

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seeing the commoditization of the cell phone in much the same way that the PC

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was Comm commoditized and then the laptop was commoditized and even every

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component of the PC I mean for a while I don't know how closely you follow PCS

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but ssds and high performance ssds were

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a big deal for a while and then all of a sudden overnight Samsung took over the

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market completely with commodity ssds that performed well enough and were

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priced very reasonably is this the beginning of the end where we see phones

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like Moto X that don't compete on spec and we see phones like Nexus 5 that come

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in and frankly take all of the margin out of the phone that guys like Samsung

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have enjoyed for so long are we there are they just fast enough and are they

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commodity now so it's yes and no so yes for the technolog it's out there right

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now it's no until the next SSD comes out

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it's no until everybody's rushing to have uh flexible displays and flexible

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batteries it's no until people are trying to get nearfield uh cameras built

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into devices um until the next big thing hits then yeah I absolutely think so but

00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:29.160
until there's that next whatever Rush it's going to be whatever sort of fake

00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:34.600
rush they make the consumer think have to have um you know I uh I think it's

00:17:32.520 --> 00:17:38.240
only a matter of maybe months not years before that that next thing shows its

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face do you think the consumer is more Savvy to the these days I mean

00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:47.960
look how long they've been trying to cram 4k on TVs down our throats without

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any content available and with extremely high prices on TVs in much the same way

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that they were used to being able to charge so much for a flat panel and then

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so much for a full HD one and then etc etc etc and people just aren't doing it

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anymore are are we past that or do you think that mobile is not at that

00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:11.600
saturation Point yet yeah so I think it's the industry so I think when it comes to TVs and purchase that you make

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maybe once every 10 uh people are maybe

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not smarter but pay closer attention with their wallet because those are real

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dollars I mean you're talking thousands and thousands of dollars uh so I think

00:18:19.120 --> 00:18:25.240
people aren't as easily duped look at 3D like 3D is supposed to be the giant

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thing everybody's got to have 3d 3d 3d 3d and really not many people cared that

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much about 3D no I mean part of the problem to me was the implementations

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were so fragmented and so terrible I mean we see this happen in the industry

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over and over again where no one can agree on a bloody standard and then the

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whole thing flops yeah no you're absolutely right

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and when it comes to the mobile world I think customers are are more easily

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duped uh and it's such a weird world in Mobile people feel entitled to to things

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you know I signed a two-year contract two years ago for my phone where's my

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KitKat update uh or or so loyal to an operating system you know if you like

00:19:02.159 --> 00:19:07.320
apple and I like Android where mortal enemies I mean it's could you imagine

00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:12.400
that same Dynamic when you go grocery shopping like somebody buys a Milky Way and you're a Snickers guy and you just

00:19:09.919 --> 00:19:17.760
start like screaming at him like how how dare you like Snickers Milky Way is is

00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:23.159
obviously the best you you must be just a gigantic you know ass

00:19:20.679 --> 00:19:26.159
face that is fantastic because you know what it's funny because so many things

00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:31.200
on the internet are like that where if people actually behaved that way to each

00:19:28.360 --> 00:19:36.480
other I can you can you imagine being on the subway and seeing someone you know I

00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:40.720
mean okay let's say 10 years ago seeing someone with a Sony disman versus a

00:19:38.679 --> 00:19:44.440
Panasonic disman and ending up in a fist fight over

00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:47.360
it no you the only thought would have been like wow does that thing skip when

00:19:46.080 --> 00:19:52.240
you walk you know you're never like looking

00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:56.520
like what it is it is so crazy the internet mentality and sort of the

00:19:54.600 --> 00:20:01.120
entitlement that that people somehow feel that seems to be really exclusive

00:19:58.360 --> 00:20:06.919
to to mobile and maybe gaming as well gaming is a big one a strange phenomenon

00:20:03.520 --> 00:20:09.200
it's like I paid $60 for this game five

00:20:06.919 --> 00:20:13.360
years ago why isn't the game developer still supporting servers out of their

00:20:10.840 --> 00:20:18.120
own pocket yeah why don't I have backwards compatibility PS4 with my PS1

00:20:16.080 --> 00:20:23.440
masters of teros C game I bought you know 48 years ago you

00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:28.720
know it's just it's a very strange uh Strange World I much as I try

00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:32.360
I still don't understand it and the funny thing is your entire job is to

00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:37.360
demystify it for other people so way to go smart guy yeah yeah but that's that

00:20:35.120 --> 00:20:41.080
is my one job I'm like I'm like I cannot figure you guys out like I love the

00:20:38.919 --> 00:20:44.760
audience they are incredible they put food on my table they give me a chance

00:20:42.520 --> 00:20:47.840
to live my dream but some of them I just don't understand the mentality like if

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that translated to anything else it would just it wouldn't work now let's

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talk about entitlement and support for lower end devices Android 4.4 KitKat um

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there was a leak that we're looking at some unexpected improvements I'm just

00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:05.679
going to pull up the article here really quick this was posted on the Forum by mg

00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:09.200
star so we're just going to go ahead and go back to our guest here so the

00:21:06.919 --> 00:21:12.880
original Source was in gadget and we're looking at I mean obviously you've heard

00:21:11.159 --> 00:21:16.880
of this so why don't you give me your thoughts on this uh Revelation that

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they're looking to optimize particularly memory use to the point where we could

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see devices that only have around 512 Megs of RAM still operate

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smoothly so I think as annoyed as consumers are with Android

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fragmentations I think Google is more annoyed with Android fragmentation uh

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and I think they're trying to have more control uh over the operating system

00:21:35.760 --> 00:21:41.679
there's a big misconception that Android is open source uh Android is is not

00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:47.480
truly open source they release the source code but it's not open source uh

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so I think they're trying to uh limit fragmentation and they've done a

00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:55.880
incredible job of memory management uh with Android 4.4 so hopefully they're

00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:58.919
saying okay 4.4 can run on more devices then app developers can be able to

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support more devices they make more money because more apps can be purchased

00:22:01.080 --> 00:22:07.559
on those older devices so it boils down to a dollars um decision for for Google

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but certainly helps the consumer in the long run as well that's an absolutely fantastic point and actually ties into

00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:18.880
something we were saying before you joined us on the show with respect to steam members versus Xbox Live members

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:23.480
where those steam members are the part of this fragmented ecosystem that maybe

00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:27.960
some game is released are you really pushing it out to 65 million potential

00:22:25.679 --> 00:22:31.600
people whereas on Xbox you know that every single one of those members is

00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:35.640
actually capable of of buying the the app or the game or whatever else it is

00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:41.000
that you uh that you happen to be that you happen to be looking at so how much

00:22:38.760 --> 00:22:44.559
of this do you think is actually focused on smartphones and lower-end or older

00:22:42.840 --> 00:22:48.919
smartphones and how much of of this do you think is gearing up for a Google

00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:53.039
glass or Smartwatch release coming in 2014 that's so so that's the big one I

00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:56.440
think it's me necessarily starting from here on out I think it's it's a

00:22:54.960 --> 00:23:00.799
two-prong attack I think it's gearing up for wearables um you know Smartwatch and

00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:06.559
whatever you know Google Glass 2 whatever they decide to call their second iteration of it but beyond that I

00:23:04.320 --> 00:23:12.360
think it's also a clear shot for emerging markets I think they're looking

00:23:08.919 --> 00:23:14.000
at India in particular South America

00:23:12.360 --> 00:23:18.240
where maybe the lower spec Android devices uh can get some Market

00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:22.400
penetration um you know and also that potential um you know dollar from the

00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:28.760
Play Store and that's a very good point because I mean it it blew me away that

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in somewhere as technologically with it

00:23:28.760 --> 00:23:36.600
as Taiwan I mean we're talking the manufacturing and design of all this

00:23:33.679 --> 00:23:41.360
crap goes on there and yet every C drivers got a flip

00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:46.400
phone it's crazy in contrast though in Korea almost every single person I saw

00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:49.919
had a note a note two or like something else super baller and Samsung's there so

00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:55.679
a lot of work goes on there it's just slight it's so funny you mention that our um our managing editor uh Roy Troy

00:23:54.120 --> 00:23:59.200
is Korean and we were talking about the difference of Technology from country to

00:23:57.760 --> 00:24:05.320
Country he was talking about he said exactly that same thing he says he went to Korea and he couldn't believe how

00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:09.600
many people have these gigantic smartphones and and how many women carry

00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:13.120
the gigantic you know smartphones instead it was just it's so interesting

00:24:10.919 --> 00:24:16.679
from country to Country you to see what what permeates the culture yeah more

00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:21.520
than once I saw a chick walking around with like a clutch bag and as far as I

00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:25.200
could tell it was for her phone like that was it there was so many chicks and

00:24:23.919 --> 00:24:30.360
a lot of dudes as well but so many chicks with notes and giant phones that they held and worked with as TBL

00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:37.559
and something right I know right isn't that thing

00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:42.840
hilarious it is like a com I loved using it just looking at me like

00:24:39.919 --> 00:24:48.600
what what is this thing on my face what is that what's that guy doing he's

00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:51.279
crazy okay so uh I think our last topic

00:24:48.600 --> 00:24:55.279
here is is a bit of a console topic and actually is is an ecosystem control

00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:58.760
topic as well so I'm just going to go ahead and fire this up on the computer

00:24:57.080 --> 00:25:02.080
here so everyone can see what the it is we're talking about so this was a tweet

00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:07.000
from Michael mallister that sent this over so it's actually the original link

00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:11.320
is to the Playstation blog where they

00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:14.440
dropped an absolute bomb on PS4 audio

00:25:11.320 --> 00:25:16.240
format support so uh here Luke why don't

00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:20.000
I let you give the rundown and then John I'd love to hear what you think of this

00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:24.000
particular method of ecosystem control so there there was a topic actually on

00:25:21.840 --> 00:25:28.880
TechnoBuffalo about this so I'm sure I'm sure he's on top of it um but PS

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:33.520
PlayStation released a giant FAQ recently like huge and it is

00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:36.880
actually pretty awesome because it's nice to get some confirmation about

00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:39.720
things uh because this is kind of an issue you hear about this giant thing

00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:43.399
that's new newly released and it's like oh well I have literally 80 questions

00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:46.320
and none of them are answered so it's nice that we got this fq but people

00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:52.240
started noticing things like the PlayStation 4 will not support MP3s

00:25:48.919 --> 00:25:54.720
audio CDs external hard drives or

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:59.159
DLNA people were just like what the heck one thing that they do support though is

00:25:56.840 --> 00:26:02.919
Music Unlimited a PlayStation service which can stream You music for a monthly

00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:08.480
fee and you can play this music in the background while you're playing games only $4.99 a month no less John I'm sure

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:12.039
you have lots to say about this let's hear it oh yes I do so first I just want

00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:15.440
to say thank you to everybody that's s of sending messages on on Twitter that's

00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:21.240
um that's watching the show it's very cool to interact sort of live um so if

00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:25.799
there's ever been anything more Sony than good design it's really loving

00:26:23.399 --> 00:26:29.720
proprietary formats like really love like really like in love wanting to

00:26:27.840 --> 00:26:34.960
marry and make babies with proprietary formats I mean this this is this is the

00:26:31.399 --> 00:26:37.760
company that brought us betamax minis

00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:43.080
um memory memory stick memory stick Duo memory stick Duo 95 Pro Duo yeah the the

00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:46.200
billion different varieties so I am not at all surprised with the music side of

00:26:44.919 --> 00:26:49.840
things and pushing their own Silly Services what was a little bit

00:26:48.120 --> 00:26:53.720
surprising was the external hard drives and Sony said that they're limiting it

00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:58.919
to try and reduce piracy which okay I can I can understand

00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:04.120
um you know they probably felt that was a big issue with with the PS3 uh they

00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:08.440
plated people a little bit by letting their internal hard drive be replaceable

00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:11.039
which it still seems a little bit silly you just get the you know connector and

00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:16.960
you can throw an external hard drive anyway that it thinks is internal um so

00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:22.320
it it seems like a very silly thing that I think will very quickly be rectified

00:27:19.320 --> 00:27:23.919
um I would say come like half a year

00:27:22.320 --> 00:27:28.559
down external hard dries will be allowed I just do you think it'll be rectified

00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:33.399
because one thing I have to give Microsoft props for is that they made

00:27:31.159 --> 00:27:38.320
all the most popular most unpopular decisions they possibly could and then

00:27:35.760 --> 00:27:42.559
swiftly backtracked on them Sony has shown in the past that they are willing

00:27:40.320 --> 00:27:48.519
to make an unpopular decision and then just ride it out forever forever and I

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:54.080
agree I give Microsoft credit as well for for backtracking they could have run

00:27:51.080 --> 00:27:57.399
a marathon backwards for as quickly as

00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:59.440
they uh as they retreated on that um I

00:27:57.399 --> 00:28:03.600
do however think Sony is really trying to be what they're calling considering

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:06.320
like the anti Xbox this time um so I think they're going to take a different

00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:12.600
approach to PS4 and I really think that's something that's going to be rectified if the community wants it to

00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:13.880
be rectified very very quickly now sorry

00:28:12.600 --> 00:28:18.880
go ahead because I'm gonna I'm gonna go for a bit here so sure one thing to bring up too is it's not just music

00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:22.320
unlimited they also have I believe what's called Video Unlimited which I

00:28:20.600 --> 00:28:25.720
think is supposed to conflict and try and fight against Netflix and that has a

00:28:24.360 --> 00:28:29.679
little subscription thing good luck good luck with that I know yeah not really

00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:34.000
going to happen but just putting that there they's such a Powerhouse now oh

00:28:31.600 --> 00:28:37.880
it's ridiculous here's my issue with the way that Sony is viewing their

00:28:35.399 --> 00:28:42.720
competition as this Sony versus Microsoft head-to-head battle so they're

00:28:39.919 --> 00:28:46.919
ignoring Wii U which their right to do and they're also ignoring Steam OS

00:28:45.399 --> 00:28:50.960
they're ignoring Steam OS and they're ignoring Android I've been saying this

00:28:48.679 --> 00:28:56.559
for a little while and I don't think this is the Battle of PS4 and Xbox One I

00:28:53.919 --> 00:29:00.240
think this is the Battle of console and they're better off to band together and

00:28:58.399 --> 00:29:05.799
figure out what their value ad is and deliver it versus open more open

00:29:03.120 --> 00:29:10.480
platforms like Linux and open platforms like Android where the barrier to entry

00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:14.559
for a game developer or an app developer or whoever else wants to be involved in

00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:17.799
that platform is much lower I don't know how much attention you've paid to

00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:22.720
something like NVIDIA Shield but did you see their console mode

00:29:19.600 --> 00:29:24.399
announcement yes I've actually uh Pi I'm

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:29.840
actually staring at NVIDIA Shield right now as we speak good um what are your

00:29:26.679 --> 00:29:32.480
thoughts I had a chance to take a look

00:29:29.840 --> 00:29:35.960
at the update you a few days before it uh got pushed so there are a few things

00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:40.039
I see I actually agree wholeheartly with everything you just said I think the big

00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:44.399
difficulty for developers is getting those games on television sets about

00:29:42.360 --> 00:29:50.080
things like the Ouya and I think the shield and NVIDIA nailed it with the the

00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:54.440
control mapping yes so being a being able to take a game like NBA Jam you

00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.679
know that's an awesome game but it's kind of tough to play with touch and

00:29:55.760 --> 00:30:03.480
being able to just have that already be mapped for your Shield makes it a very very

00:30:01.840 --> 00:30:06.960
compelling platform not to mention all the emulators you can download you know

00:30:05.600 --> 00:30:13.720
I traveled I was playing Super Mario Brothers on my shield because it was just fun um and you know what we've seen

00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:18.799
this time and time again where the more that a platform tries to lock down and

00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:23.399
become anti-piracy the more the piracy friendly platform that crops up to take

00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:29.240
its place gets accepted because let's face it piracy drives platform adoption

00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:33.159
in a huge way and it's the elephant in the room that Microsoft doesn't want to

00:30:31.159 --> 00:30:37.039
talk about about the Xbox the original Xbox it's the elephant in the room that

00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:40.200
you know Microsoft doesn't want to talk about with the PC it's the elephant in

00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:45.799
the room Google doesn't want to talk about with Android but it's there yeah

00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:50.960
that's a very astute observation actually um I I completely agree with

00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:55.240
that with that statement you are absolutely right I'd be curious you know

00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:58.519
and they say piracy what they really mean is we're not making enough money I

00:30:57.120 --> 00:31:02.720
mean that that's sort of that's the between the lines is we don't care if

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:07.840
you're playing our game for free we care that you're not giving us money to play

00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:10.080
our game um and and that's the issue I

00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:13.519
wonder though how much money these manufacturers Sony and Microsoft are

00:31:11.679 --> 00:31:16.480
paying to developers to get exclusives Microsoft obviously opened up their

00:31:14.760 --> 00:31:21.159
wallets like crazy to get the exclusive titles what if what if they both agreed

00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:25.120
to stop doing that that okay let's stop with the exclusive deal uh you know if

00:31:23.159 --> 00:31:28.440
we own a studio so whatever if it was formerly bunge or whatever it might be

00:31:26.840 --> 00:31:33.360
then you know we'll make our own games but if we stop doing that and we stop

00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:38.279
pushing this ridiculous piracy that just locks down our console I wonder how that

00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:42.639
would change sales numbers and how that would change you know their end of day

00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:47.240
or a scary profit what about a scary sort of uh seiz fire on exclusive titles

00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:53.440
where they kind of go okay well let's work together to make them console exclusive and let's compete on the value

00:31:51.320 --> 00:31:57.919
ad services like Xbox Live and Playstation network and let's figure out

00:31:55.600 --> 00:32:00.919
how to extract our money there but let's stopped fighting on Hardware because

00:31:59.320 --> 00:32:06.679
they basically gave up on the hardware fight we saw that they both have the same bloody Hardware in them for the

00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:10.480
most part PS yeah EXA exactly the same and they're still sort of like backhand

00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:16.559
fighting each other you know I'm sure Sony paid Activision to make Call of

00:32:13.159 --> 00:32:18.200
Duty ghost 1080p only on the PS4 you

00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:22.399
know so people can think oh the XBox wasn't as powerful last generation it's

00:32:19.600 --> 00:32:26.360
probably not as powerful this generation like I would bet there was

00:32:24.840 --> 00:32:31.320
money to changed hands obviously I can't back that up but I would I would bet

00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:34.600
that money changed hands so tell me this now that you've played with shield and

00:32:32.639 --> 00:32:40.799
console mode do you have a Kepler based GeForce um uh PC to stream games to your

00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:44.679
I've got a got a falcon here yeah oh yeah we we've been testing it having a

00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:51.200
blast with okay tell me this from an end user perspective if Shield is $200 for

00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:53.080
what is effectively a a console that if

00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:58.080
you have a supported PC so remember Shield is $200 with a supported graphics

00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:03.000
card so if you pay $200 for shield you get to stream PC quality graphics and

00:33:00.639 --> 00:33:07.840
man does it ever look good to handheld or to your TV with 1080p coming by the

00:33:05.080 --> 00:33:13.159
end of the year and the ability to use it handheld or Steam OS with its ability

00:33:11.159 --> 00:33:17.120
to stream from your PC as well so having one powerful PC in the house and being

00:33:14.919 --> 00:33:22.240
able to Game On Any TV versus picking up your console and moving it around versus

00:33:18.919 --> 00:33:23.840
spending $400 or $500 or $300 whatever

00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.799
it is on a console plus extra controllers plus whatever you end up

00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:32.320
doing what is going to be in your list living room six months from now if you

00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:35.159
had a crystal ball oh I mean the shield for sure I should say though The Shield

00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:40.399
is 300 bucks if you want to buy it on its own yes that's important and it's

00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:44.440
not even available in every country yeah but I I totally see the value add and I

00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:48.120
give NVIDIA credit for pushing a product like this they know they're not going to

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:50.919
make any money on yes it's it's a really cutting I I thought for sure they were

00:33:49.760 --> 00:33:58.039
never going to release this I thought it was going to be a reference Hardware from Tegra 4 um and I went on record and

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.559
said then I was clearly wrong um I

00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:03.399
really give them I really give them credit I know the folks in NVIDIA very

00:34:01.320 --> 00:34:06.760
well they are committed this platform and they like you to see the future and

00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:09.520
they've done that same you know that same pitch okay what are you going to

00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:14.359
keep in your living room and if we stick with this and we educate the consumer to know what Shield does to not just look

00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:19.359
at it as an Android Tablet with the controller you know they will get it

00:34:16.359 --> 00:34:22.000
being able to stream PC games that look

00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:24.599
ridiculously good anywhere you want are incredible if my wife doesn't want me

00:34:23.359 --> 00:34:28.480
sitting in front of my computer playing games I can sit on the couch sort of

00:34:26.560 --> 00:34:33.240
watch the baby you know and catch up with Arkham Origins you know or any

00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:37.919
absolutely or anything else I want and this is something oh sorry uh one thing

00:34:35.919 --> 00:34:40.480
that kind of catches me odd and I was wondering what you think about this was

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:45.879
the release timing for different things to do with Shield because I I think less

00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:49.119
people know that uh you can actually play it as streaming from your computer

00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:53.079
they know that it exists and I'm surprised that usually you announce

00:34:50.919 --> 00:34:56.599
things that have to do with the device before you release the device they mess

00:34:54.560 --> 00:35:00.599
that up and in Shield's case they release Shields and it was this Hardware

00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:04.960
that everyone wasn't sure what to do with it like what it really does like why does it even have these different

00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:08.160
options blah blah blah blah blah and then finally they're releasing all these

00:35:06.640 --> 00:35:12.880
options after interest is actually almost waning yeah it it's they've been taking

00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:15.720
a very weird approach they're trying to go organic and clearly that just

00:35:14.520 --> 00:35:20.320
translates that we don't want to spend a lot of money and a big like I mean it's

00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:24.160
true and do a big like blogger education push I mean so we had before this over

00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:30.960
the air update came out you know we had a huge um you know WebEx demo

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:35.280
um talking about shield and they sent us U an external controller at HDMI K hook

00:35:33.160 --> 00:35:39.280
it up to TVs and all that kind of all that kind of stuff and they're really

00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:41.640
pushing it I think I think bloggers for

00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:46.800
some reason don't either get it or just don't care I and I'm not that emotional

00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:51.040
it's that emotional fandom that we talked about before this is a completely

00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:55.079
new completely different thing that I think a lot of the console versus PC

00:35:53.319 --> 00:35:59.240
guys I don't think anyone's happy about it cuz I think the hardcore PC guys look

00:35:57.160 --> 00:36:02.000
at it and they go go well I don't need a console I don't need a handle blah blah

00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.720
blah blah blah and I think a lot of the console guys go well then I have to have

00:36:04.359 --> 00:36:09.440
a powerful gaming PC I'm happy with my Xbox blah blah blah don't take away my

00:36:08.319 --> 00:36:14.680
console and the thing I think people don't realize is I've been saying this for a while this is the last generation

00:36:12.720 --> 00:36:19.319
of of consoles in the form that we see them today and I and people tell me well

00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:23.160
well I'm yeah I'm going to sit in front of my computer no you're not going to sit in front of your computer you're

00:36:21.359 --> 00:36:27.800
going to sit in front of your TV the TV gaming experience is not dead but the

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:33.000
console is dead and I think NVIDIA Shield is actually just a pawn here I

00:36:31.240 --> 00:36:36.800
think it's I think it's a sacrificial lamb they're obviously going to lose

00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:41.000
money on the whole Endeavor but I think they actually don't care if Shield two

00:36:39.040 --> 00:36:46.599
or Shield three or Shield four exists because NVIDIA in their history is an

00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:48.400
enaer they are not looking to sell a

00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:52.920
graphics card directly to an end user any more than they're looking to necessarily sell a shield to an end user

00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:57.000
I think they created Shield out of a need to build this cuz no one else was

00:36:55.359 --> 00:37:02.480
willing to do it I think they just did it and went no we want handheld gaming

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:06.720
uh combined with PC gaming combined with TV gaming and if we have to do it

00:37:04.200 --> 00:37:09.880
ourselves then fine but ultimately if someone else with Tegra 6 releases their

00:37:08.640 --> 00:37:13.920
own thing I think they're happy with that yeah I actually agree with you I I

00:37:12.520 --> 00:37:18.599
I I could not have said that better myself I I completely agree with

00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:21.800
that you're the best guest ever you agree with me about things you're

00:37:19.720 --> 00:37:25.599
awesome I mean when you're when you're right you're right I mean you're not

00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:28.680
you're not saying anything untrue man and I would any anybody who knows me

00:37:27.359 --> 00:37:34.319
know knows I love a good argument so I'm certainly not afraid to uh to speak up

00:37:31.640 --> 00:37:37.640
but I think you nailed it well you know what I would love to give you at least I

00:37:36.319 --> 00:37:42.200
we're coming up I don't want to keep you a minute longer because I totally understand the wife thing you got to go

00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:46.880
support her as best you can so we have three more minutes guys if you have any

00:37:44.680 --> 00:37:51.520
quick Twitter questions for John that you'd love to hear and answer as fast as

00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:54.520
he can hit us up uh hit me up on Linus Tech and John I'd like you to take the

00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.920
next couple minutes for any of our viewers who don't already know who you

00:37:56.119 --> 00:38:01.720
are which I think most of them probably do but talk about yourself and what you

00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:06.079
do and how it's great and how they can follow you always weird to talk about

00:38:03.560 --> 00:38:09.800
yourself I'm a geek I'm just I'm a geek who somehow managed to win the lottery

00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:16.760
and got the opportunity to do this for a living um you can you can check me out

00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:19.920
on YouTube uh youtube.com no Buffalo I'm

00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:21.240
on on Twitter at johnj number4 Lakers

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:25.040
which is an awful Twitter handle I totally understand that or you can check

00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:30.000
check out you know all of our all of our content um at uh at technobuffalo.com

00:38:28.319 --> 00:38:34.560
and we just talk about tech we're we're fans of technology and we have our

00:38:33.319 --> 00:38:37.920
passion that we get the opportunity to share with everybody now do you guys do

00:38:36.520 --> 00:38:43.680
a live show uh we do a podcast we used to do

00:38:41.200 --> 00:38:46.359
live shows we towed live shows we really want to do more live shows it's just

00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:51.240
matter of trying to find the bandwidth to do them but it's definitely like I say thanks s is every year but it's

00:38:49.319 --> 00:38:56.520
definitely on our radar I want you to do a live show because you are fantastic

00:38:53.800 --> 00:39:00.839
live we have some we have some people on where you kind of go yeah you script

00:38:58.200 --> 00:39:04.680
everything and uh you have a hard time holding a discussion for 20 minutes

00:39:03.160 --> 00:39:10.319
whereas that is not the case with you at all you guys need to do a live show because I think I appreciate that I I'm

00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.920
awful reading from a teleprompter I'm I'm not an actor I'm really really bad

00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:16.720
so I mean all my videos are all done just whatever weird stuff comes out of

00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.599
my head all right so here we go we've got a

00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:24.480
couple Twitter questions we're not going to keep John for much longer than a

00:39:22.319 --> 00:39:29.119
couple more minutes here no problem okay Happ answer Joshua says John you were an

00:39:27.040 --> 00:39:34.839
awesome guest on the land show totally agree um here we go John from Evan not

00:39:32.359 --> 00:39:38.760
really a quick question oh damn it Evan okay what were the struggles you faced

00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:41.760
starting your own business over there sure and we're not we're not we're not

00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.599
on a clock I'm happy to answer the questions all right thank you thank you

00:39:43.839 --> 00:39:50.079
so I mean the struggles were the biggest one I faced was you know so okay so now

00:39:48.040 --> 00:39:54.920
I'm 33 and people look at me as a 33y old but they realized when they started

00:39:51.240 --> 00:39:56.880
this I was 25 26 years um not really

00:39:54.920 --> 00:40:02.560
knowing how business worked I love technology I used to go to Best Buy and

00:39:59.240 --> 00:40:04.560
walk around dress myself um you know at

00:40:02.560 --> 00:40:08.000
the end of a long day U my biggest thing was when I when I first launched techno

00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:11.599
Buffalo I didn't know about how to create a website I didn't know about

00:40:09.319 --> 00:40:15.800
code I had you know gotten a little bit of startup funds from friends and family

00:40:13.359 --> 00:40:18.680
I bootstrapped it all the way um and I hired a developer I said build the site

00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:25.599
he built it and said okay it's ready to launch so I figured great let's launch it um and the site crashed in I think it

00:40:23.640 --> 00:40:28.599
was less than a minute it was like 43 seconds it didn't crash because of crazy

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:33.440
traffic it crashed because of God awul code so we had a burn through 40% of our

00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:38.680
startup capital I had just left my job this 2009 in a bad economy to make

00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:43.520
videos for a living I had no income for essentially three months so the best

00:40:40.560 --> 00:40:49.280
long story short best advice that I can give is know your industry you want to

00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:51.400
start a website know about a website I I

00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:55.440
I was so like blindly ignorant I mean I look back and I just want to smack

00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:57.680
myself in the face um no know your

00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:01.400
industry before you get into anything um I had the benefit of being sort of just

00:40:59.640 --> 00:41:06.640
by dumb Luck first to Market so it's easier to get notice and much harder now

00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:10.040
and it's a much more crowded field so if you want to get into YouTube or Tech

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:14.000
World find your own voice let your personality come through don't be a

00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:18.359
robot don't copy anybody else's style find your own um and uh fight through

00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:22.240
all the hate that is absolutely fantastic advice especially that last

00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:27.680
thing any new employee here who is going to be on camera I actually am kind of an

00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:31.920
to them intentionally um and the reason for that is because whatever I

00:41:29.560 --> 00:41:35.560
can say to you is not on Tenth of what the internet's going to throw at you and

00:41:33.680 --> 00:41:39.640
the bit about finding your own voice and your own style is so important because

00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:47.520
so many people ask me how do I be a how do I be a YouTuber and the answer is is

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:48.960
is always to be passionate and

00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:53.359
understand what you're trying to talk about because otherwise people are going

00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:57.240
to people's people's radar is so sensitive these days they're not

00:41:55.200 --> 00:42:01.640
going to buy it you're abs abs absolutely and don't fall in the Trap of

00:41:59.319 --> 00:42:03.839
of selling yourself for reviews you know don't think you have to give good

00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:09.079
reviews because it's going and sent you a product the audience knows be yourself

00:42:06.040 --> 00:42:10.520
on camera be genuine and um you know I

00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:15.520
think you guys will will find success if you just follow that path all right uh

00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:21.160
this is just hilarious and I'm I'm sorry to do this to you but uh please jsy asks

00:42:18.240 --> 00:42:27.760
where do babies come from so here's how here's how it happens all right so you

00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:31.000
sit at home you don't know I don't even know how to answer that

00:42:28.839 --> 00:42:33.920
question all right all right all right interested all right here we go here we

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.599
go hold on let's see if we got anything else John do you recommend the Nexus 5

00:42:36.040 --> 00:42:41.760
for the price or could you recommend a better phone for the price o no no

00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:46.720
better phone for the price Nexus 5 for sure there we go yeah that's an easy one

00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:51.520
that was a really easy one yeah um will Steam and NVIDIA will you try to let me

00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:54.960
see if I can see anything that uh uh okay we already talked about Nexus

00:42:53.960 --> 00:43:00.200
5 Guys you're going to have to go back and watch the archive if you want to hear about NEX 5 from John do you have

00:42:58.640 --> 00:43:04.400
any initial thoughts let's make this the last question here do you have any initial thoughts on the Nexus 5 and its

00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:08.960
camera quality so we do funny you should

00:43:06.720 --> 00:43:13.720
mention that we actually Ju Just finished writing and filming a full test

00:43:11.160 --> 00:43:17.040
of the video and still camera quality uh on the next five so if you want to see

00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:21.280
that we'll have the post up actually tomorrow Saturday on technobuffalo.com

00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:27.839
can we get a short teaser but I will give you a sneak preview it's good it's

00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:29.640
good it's not great okay that is very

00:43:27.839 --> 00:43:33.280
fair so guys make sure you check that out on TechnoBuffalo tomorrow John

00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.960
you've been an absolutely fantastic guest thank you so much for joining us

00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:41.359
and my pleasure thank you guys for having me I appreciate this was a lot of fun guys make sure that you're following

00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:45.319
John on Twitter oh we should have his Twitter handle in there John for Lakers

00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:48.760
and uh you know harass him on Twitter tell him how great he was because the

00:43:47.160 --> 00:43:51.599
more messages I see about how great he was the more likely I am to bring him

00:43:50.240 --> 00:43:55.920
back although I can already tell you we would be happy to have you back anytime you were F I would love to be back and

00:43:54.640 --> 00:44:00.640
it's internet I don't do well with compliment so you do you do much better

00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:03.599
to just like yell at me awesome next time I'll make sure I have something we

00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.839
disagree on okay sounds good thank you guys very

00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:10.559
much for uh for having me it was was a really a good time and I look forward to

00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:14.920
doing it again hopefully sometime soon take care thanks a lot bye bye all right

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a long time you guys want to talk about some hardcore PC Hardware let's do that

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thing so we're going to jump into an anct article about bronze versus

00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:17.040
platinum power supplies because we've talked about this before um but we've

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:20.200
just kind of like generally talked about the idea of it yes these guys actually

00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:24.040
run some pretty hardcore numbers these are hardcore numbers which is what Anon

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Tech is fantastic for and if this page ever loads then why don't you why don't

00:46:26.040 --> 00:46:34.480
you go ahead and run them through some of the rationale so first what is 80 plus 80 plus is efficiency levels so if

00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.480
you're above 80 80% efficiency you get

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:42.640
different rankings uh 80 plus Platinum is like basically 90 plus but not quite

00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:46.240
so that is how much energy is wasted in the conversion from AC power which comes

00:46:44.520 --> 00:46:50.400
out of your wall to DC power which is what your computer uses how much is

00:46:47.720 --> 00:46:54.800
saved you're you're saving you're not wasting 80% oh yeah yeah how much how

00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:58.960
how efficient the conversion is okay so anyway what are some of these numbers looking like so don't actually have the

00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:04.200
sheet up but I remember from memory when you're idling bronze compared to

00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.400
platinum uh you're saving about $7 and

00:47:04.200 --> 00:47:09.359
something remember these are going to be US dollars so wherever you are you can

00:47:08.200 --> 00:47:13.880
convert that as much as you want yeah and it really depends on energy costs in your area as well that's another thing

00:47:12.359 --> 00:47:20.280
to factor in and it depends on energy cost one thing is like I I don't think our energy probably costs as much as an

00:47:17.040 --> 00:47:23.160
ntex does um so our cost wouldn't be the

00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:28.359
same as this but O Canada yeah O Canada Hydro power woo um so like there's

00:47:27.359 --> 00:47:32.480
there's a bunch of different factors into play which will make it different for where you live but basically

00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:35.920
essentially for where an anch did their testing you're saving about $7 and

00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:40.160
something when you're idling and you're saving up I think it's like 23 is that a

00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:46.480
year or a month a year a year and it's 247 operation 247 operation idling for

00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:53.040
an entire year and then under load which is like heavy load 247 for a whole year

00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:57.200
you can save about 23 25 bucks so my conclusion from this was if you're one

00:47:55.559 --> 00:48:02.160
of those guys on Save the line of folding team and you're pushing your

00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:03.800
CPUs and everything like 100% all the

00:48:02.160 --> 00:48:08.640
time and you expect to get 3 to five years of life out of your power supply

00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:11.760
then maybe not a bad idea look into high efficiency power supplies but if you're

00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:18.200
someone who's going to come home and game for two or three hours and shut your computer off other than that maybe

00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.920
don't shell out the extra money for the Platinum power supply would you get a

00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:24.000
cheaper one although one thing I have noticed is that silver and gold level

00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:28.720
power supplies are becoming cheaper and cheaper that's true they are and you know what honestly there are other

00:48:27.040 --> 00:48:32.800
things that you can do to optimize your system for power efficiency so hold on a

00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:39.280
second here is their actual graph where they com they compared the thermal light

00:48:35.520 --> 00:48:40.559
power 450 watt to the EA 450 Earth Watts

00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.720
Platinum so those are the actual two power supplies that they're looking at

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:50.359
and the funny thing about them choosing 450 watt power supplies for this test is

00:48:47.720 --> 00:48:54.480
that I have a a point about that more than changing the efficiency level the

00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.240
80 plus rating of the power supply you're buying buying an appropriate

00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:02.400
power supply for your system could be could could actually save you more money

00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:07.520
because when you over Buy 80 plus platinum and 80 plus ratings only

00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:09.920
factoring down to 20% load under that

00:49:07.520 --> 00:49:13.839
load there is no spec there is no requirement so it could be extremely

00:49:11.640 --> 00:49:17.680
inefficient at very low loads and if you completely over bu your power supply you

00:49:15.359 --> 00:49:22.640
buy 1200 watt power supply for a system that's going to pull 250 watts underload

00:49:19.799 --> 00:49:25.400
and like 45 Watts or 60 watts at idle you might be you might be getting the

00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:29.480
worst efficiency ever and you would never even know about it and like your

00:49:27.319 --> 00:49:32.839
highest efficiency isn't at that 20% where the graph starts it's a little bit

00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:39.280
in there so you want to be actually using a bit of your power supply for it to be really efficient all right so

00:49:35.799 --> 00:49:41.240
phone blocks has been making major waves

00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:45.760
so I think the first person who posted about Project Ara on the Forum is MGS

00:49:43.839 --> 00:49:49.760
star so I wanted to give a shout out to you for posting in the lineus tech tips

00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:54.920
news section of the Forum but this is the original Motorola post here I'm just

00:49:52.839 --> 00:50:00.000
going to go ahead and fire this up the official Motorola blogs goodbye sticky

00:49:57.240 --> 00:50:03.839
hello ARA so sticky was a truck that apparently treed across the us or going

00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:10.160
somewhere with a bunch of rooted phones some 3D printing equipment and the goal

00:50:06.720 --> 00:50:13.760
was this my friends so much like phone

00:50:10.160 --> 00:50:16.079
blocks' goal is a modular phone design

00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:20.400
that is upgradeable and can be tailor made to a specific purpose that is the

00:50:18.680 --> 00:50:24.960
purpose of Project Ara so this is a whole lot of renders from what I'm

00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:31.480
looking at right now and not necessarily um concrete proof that Project Ara is a

00:50:27.720 --> 00:50:34.400
real thing yet however um let's do a

00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:37.599
quick recap of of what the so the okay Motorola is working with phone blocks in

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.680
terms of publicity so in terms of publicity so go what are your thoughts

00:50:39.160 --> 00:50:44.640
on essentially there was Project sticky Motorola was already working on this yes

00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:49.200
phone blocks and behind closed doors essentially phone blocks comes out and

00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:52.960
builds a huge Community now Motorola realizes that for this platform to be

00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:56.640
open and accepted by a huge amount of people they need a following these types

00:50:54.960 --> 00:51:00.960
of devices and these types of groups need a following is that playing audio

00:50:58.359 --> 00:51:04.280
nope muted okay so what they did is they decided to partner up with phone blocks

00:51:02.799 --> 00:51:09.680
who essentially came up with the same idea just slightly different um and grab

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.640
that huge Community that's there that that tweeted about this on the

00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.559
Thunderclap that that's been following the videos that's been on Reddit all

00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:21.640
that kind of stuff you're seeing a summary of all of that over here hey it was Marcus brownley anyway go ahead so

00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:25.880
they they want to grab all of this that you're seeing over here and attach it to

00:51:24.240 --> 00:51:31.040
their product basically so they partnered up with ph block so that they can get the community of phone blocks

00:51:29.040 --> 00:51:36.920
and the hardware of Motorola to come together and that's now here's here's

00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:40.920
okay here's I'm gonna I'm gonna summarize the issues and I'm actually

00:51:39.240 --> 00:51:44.040
going to use an article from a nonch to summarize some of them because I love

00:51:42.359 --> 00:51:49.480
these guys so much and I just you should just go on their site every day that's what I do um anyway so they they

00:51:47.839 --> 00:51:53.520
summarize some of the issues so issue number one purely Hardware perspective

00:51:51.200 --> 00:51:57.400
there is a tradeoff between purpose building something as compactly and as

00:51:55.599 --> 00:52:01.440
efficiently as possible and building something that is more

00:51:59.720 --> 00:52:05.960
modular it will be bigger and it will be bulkier and it will be heavier tradeoff

00:52:03.839 --> 00:52:10.599
number two that they bring up is regul regulations so FCC only tests single

00:52:08.799 --> 00:52:14.119
configurations for approval these are devices that send and receive signals so

00:52:12.720 --> 00:52:18.599
having them be modular and just completely interchangeable might

00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:23.799
actually be a a a showstopper depending on how how they can get individ can they

00:52:21.799 --> 00:52:26.799
get individual Parts FCC regulated what if they work together and then they

00:52:25.040 --> 00:52:30.760
cause interference I mean I've seen stuff as ridiculous as a lamp and a baby

00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:34.839
monitor plugged into the same circuit that cause interference on the baby

00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:37.319
monitor this stuff is complicated and a cell phone is a hell of a lot more

00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:41.079
complicated than a baby they're going to have to get each individual part cleared

00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:45.040
but what about if you take this one and put it together and it causes some kind of problem but then wouldn't they have

00:52:43.640 --> 00:52:49.040
to test that to be able to clear it exactly yeah so it's going to be really

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:53.280
complicated yeah but maybe maybe it can be done and then the final issue that

00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:57.359
they see is actually one of History where Intel tried to do this with a

00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:01.000
project whitebook or whatever it was called hold on a second yeah whitebook

00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:06.599
where they wanted upgradable modular notebooks I mean Intel has been an

00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:08.400
advocate of of PCS being a component

00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:13.599
business they make CPUs and they make other parts like ssds motherboards not

00:53:10.839 --> 00:53:16.839
anymore but by and large they like that approach historically in their business

00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:22.079
they've wanted that but even they are not trying to do that on smartphone at

00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:24.599
all and they gave up on laptop because

00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:29.319
the market showed that what it wanted was tightly integrated devices that are

00:53:27.040 --> 00:53:33.680
beautiful and sleek and slim and small and lightweight and highly highly

00:53:31.520 --> 00:53:38.720
integrated so I'm going to bring up a couple other things that that I think

00:53:35.319 --> 00:53:40.079
here so um here here's here's a big Pro

00:53:38.720 --> 00:53:44.960
you know what oh where's that thread on the Forum crap there was a great post on

00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:48.720
the Forum that uh that I really liked about about phone blocks I didn't remove

00:53:47.160 --> 00:53:53.359
any phone blocks yeah no I know you didn't remove it but uh I really wanted

00:53:51.319 --> 00:53:58.559
to give this user a shout out here because they did a great job of

00:53:55.720 --> 00:54:04.799
summarizing it it but the issue is that much like the

00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.119
PC when's the last time you upgraded a

00:54:04.799 --> 00:54:09.839
component of a PC that's what I was just going to bring up is the the main

00:54:07.799 --> 00:54:14.599
problem that I find is that um especially they're saying like developing markets all this kind of

00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:18.240
stuff whenever I see anyone upgrade anything it's pretty much always a

00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:22.000
bucket upgrade it's not like a single component uh that happens with computers

00:54:20.240 --> 00:54:26.000
that happens with practically everything I can think of to be to be completely

00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:29.480
honest um someone still kind of likes their car one component fails they're

00:54:27.720 --> 00:54:33.599
like ah it's fairly expensive to fix it I could but I'm just going to buy a new

00:54:31.160 --> 00:54:37.480
one and there's a lot of that and that mentality especially on the high end I

00:54:36.160 --> 00:54:43.920
don't really feel like it's going to change and and and there's the fact that a lot of the time it doesn't make any

00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.760
sense because by the time you're unhappy

00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:49.760
with something or by the time there's even a suitable replacement that you

00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:53.520
would even want there's probably a suitable replacement for some other

00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:58.440
aspect of the device that you also want I mean The evolutionary changes that

00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:01.599
happen between Galaxy Device a Galaxy S

00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:03.079
to a Galaxy S2 to an S3 to an S4 they

00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:06.400
they change almost everything they put faster storage in them faster processor

00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:09.079
bigger screen better screen they do all these things at the same time and I

00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:15.359
think what's going to what's going to end up happening is much like on the PC where someone like I mean Intel and AMD

00:55:13.359 --> 00:55:19.280
and NVIDIA are all notorious for doing this oh uh buy this motherboard now and

00:55:17.720 --> 00:55:24.400
upgrade the CPU later no when the last time you upgraded a CPU in a system come

00:55:21.640 --> 00:55:27.599
on by the time you're you you're ready to ready to spend money on that again

00:55:26.319 --> 00:55:30.880
there's a better motherboard and a better CPU and a better graphics card

00:55:29.319 --> 00:55:33.960
you take that old machine and you hand it off to someone else or even if you

00:55:32.720 --> 00:55:39.039
perform all those upgrades within a reasonable period of time you're still going to end up with an entire computer

00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:42.480
or an entire phone worth of leftover Parts there's they didn't go away

00:55:40.680 --> 00:55:47.079
there's a few use cases that I see for this there's um the person Ste mine ex

00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:52.680
there's the person that's extremely accident prone I know a few um that

00:55:49.839 --> 00:55:56.480
constantly break their screens um or constantly break X Y or Z but then we

00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:01.480
don't need a fully modular phone for that we just need an easily replaceable

00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.520
screen yes but none of them are and

00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:08.599
they're not really going in that direction except for this where you could take all the modules off the back

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:11.720
buy a new base put all the modules in and it would probably be a lot cheaper

00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:16.200
okay because I'm assuming that I haven't looked a ton into Project Ara but the

00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:19.839
the screen is built into the base unlike phone blocks right uh Project Ara they

00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:25.319
are talking replaceable screen right now okay okay didn't know that so you could just take the whole base all your

00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:28.799
modules replace the screen which is awwesome because I know ton of people

00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:32.200
that just break their screens repeatedly their phone's still fine it still works

00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.599
in the background I know a buddy actually like a day or two ago that

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:40.240
broke his screen phone's still fine boots up all good can't see anything

00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:44.119
though so not really helpful that would be helpful for someone like that or

00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:47.440
someone who has no real interest in upgrading all the time but wants a phone

00:56:45.839 --> 00:56:51.760
that can text people call people and take really nice photos so they're going

00:56:49.160 --> 00:56:56.760
to spend a bit on their camera module and a bit on their storage module and

00:56:54.720 --> 00:57:00.799
that's about it so very specialty yeah now all of that stuff about how this is

00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:04.319
impossible that I just said oh yeah the last one that wasn't even brought up by

00:57:02.160 --> 00:57:09.480
on but that I think is really important is who who's going to support this if

00:57:07.359 --> 00:57:15.119
I'm Samsung and I'm used to selling people $600 or $700 devices that are all

00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:19.480
made by me am I going to turn around and go yeah yeah Motorola hey here we're

00:57:18.079 --> 00:57:23.839
going to make we're going to make really great components for your thing so that

00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:26.720
we can sell something for like 30 bucks rather than selling someone a whole

00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:30.720
phone and so you can sell them the rest of the phone and I'm not just talking

00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:34.400
about Samsung I'm talking about everyone and it's not even just I'm not

00:57:32.200 --> 00:57:39.760
criticizing Samsung for it it's just a reality that would be terrible business

00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:43.359
but how much of the device can like okay

00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:44.920
one maybe Samsung doesn't sell anything

00:57:43.359 --> 00:57:48.359
maybe Samsung sells the parts to Motorola you buy everything from

00:57:46.359 --> 00:57:51.400
Motorola right why would they sell why would they even want to sell these parts

00:57:49.640 --> 00:57:55.480
to Motorola to support this project we've seen awkward competitiveness

00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:58.559
behind the scenes where where Samsung makes some device for apple and apple

00:57:56.880 --> 00:58:01.319
Mak some device for whatever and we've seen that in the past where it doesn't

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:07.039
seem to make a lot of sense but they made money but if it's not being integrated at a higher level sled has

00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:10.520
from Samsung or from a you know a flash manufacturer or a camera manufacturer I

00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:16.359
mean that's the thing is all these guys are so vertically integrated to the point where they'll borrow from each

00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:20.480
other but you know if they can use their own sensor design or their own flash or

00:58:18.319 --> 00:58:25.240
their own yeah I expect mot as much as their own stuff as they possibly can but

00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:30.240
I I think I think it's don't have they don't build flat flash they don't build

00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:35.880
processors but it's Google Google makes flash do they know no I thought goog

00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:42.920
software only recently flash makers are imft Samsung SanDisk like like Intel

00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:48.440
these are the guys who actually so Intel is the crucial Intel uh joint project so

00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:53.480
no the actual manufacturing of any of this stuff Motorola has to convince

00:58:51.359 --> 00:58:56.599
actual manufacturers who are actually selling this crap in their own devices

00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:00.359
to support this Good Luck Chuck that's all I have to say

00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:04.520
I think if they're buying it it'll happen Okay so with all of that said

00:59:02.680 --> 00:59:09.599
here's my last thing this is how it could work low-end devices y this is

00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:13.599
where I see the potential I think that all the enthusiasts getting really

00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:18.000
excited about things like the phone blocks promotional video for the thunder

00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:22.359
clap are duding themselves because that's not really what this is about in

00:59:20.240 --> 00:59:27.039
order to build a device let's say even within the next year or even two years

00:59:25.319 --> 00:59:31.200
we'll be looking so to build a device that could have a somewhat reasonable

00:59:28.799 --> 00:59:36.640
form factor somewhat reasonable weight and perform well let's say as well as a

00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:40.880
device today we'd be looking at significantly downgraded Hardware it

00:59:39.240 --> 00:59:43.720
would have to be much lower power it would have to be much smaller to make up

00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:47.880
for all the extra room that you're going to waste with the housings that have to

00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:52.160
go around each component and with the interconnects that have to be built into

00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:55.280
it and the like in order to compensate for that we're going to be looking at

00:59:53.160 --> 01:00:00.720
low-end devices and I think that that's where something like Project Ara could

00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:02.079
be great for developing nations where I

01:00:00.720 --> 01:00:08.200
think all these enthusiasts are getting excited thinking that we're going to be building high-end Uber phones that you

01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:11.319
can up you I'll be able to upgrade it with a 16 core processor this and yeah

01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:15.160
sure if you wanted it to be this thick or whatever else we are very quickly

01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:19.599
reaching a lot of there's a great article on PC per about how graphics

01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:23.280
card performance is slowing down and we've seen explosive growth in Mobile

01:00:21.720 --> 01:00:27.200
but for many of the same reasons that we saw explosive growth in graphics cards

01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:30.760
compared to CPUs where wasn't just that the manufacturing processes were

01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:35.880
shrinking the other thing going on here was that the manufacturers were learning

01:00:32.520 --> 01:00:38.799
how to optimize for this well phones are

01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:42.799
already not able to really benefit from manufacturing process shrinks in the

01:00:40.799 --> 01:00:46.480
same way that graphics cards and CPUs were able to benefit for years so what

01:00:44.640 --> 01:00:50.319
we're seeing right now is some benefit there but a lot of it is actually just

01:00:48.720 --> 01:00:54.680
coming from optimization so once they get a good handle on how to design these

01:00:52.520 --> 01:00:57.359
things to get more power we're just going to have to draw more power and

01:00:56.160 --> 01:01:04.760
it's just going to have to be bigger and need more Cooling and all that stuff and obviously Mo's law isn't done yet not by

01:01:01.160 --> 01:01:06.440
a long shot but for for for Project Ara

01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:09.319
to come in a reasonable period of time and be in a reasonable form factor I

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:15.960
think it's a low-end play and I think it makes a ton of sense there where again

01:01:11.839 --> 01:01:18.400
replacement parts or lowcost upgrades or

01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:22.039
you know saving on electronic waste these are all great things that are

01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:27.839
going to happen but not at the highend the high-end you know U developed Nation

01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:33.400
consumer has shown time and time again that they want an Alienware or they want

01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:38.039
a MacBook Pro or they want these highly integrated devices that have economies

01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:41.599
of scale on their side in terms of cost as well in addition to the manufacturing

01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:47.480
advantages and the fact that they're lighter and thinner and faster and etc

01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:49.160
etc etc not an alien wor so much but uh

01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:52.480
they're heavier they're faster I was talking about their laptop specifically

01:01:51.039 --> 01:01:56.440
they're faster yeah they'll have like SLI GTX 680m yeah but other people may

01:01:55.520 --> 01:02:01.920
yeah but I mean they're faster than a highly integrated solution yeah okay so I

01:02:00.640 --> 01:02:06.000
looked up the Google thing and what I was confused about was how they were when they were selling Enterprise drives

01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:10.760
and everyone was like how the hell are they doing that are they making their own yeah I didn't end up following that

01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:13.720
up so I thought they making yeah okay I think the issue with volume today is

01:02:12.240 --> 01:02:17.799
that that's really far away we need to get that closer it needs to be like here

01:02:16.520 --> 01:02:22.400
um so we can well don't worry we'll reposition the mic next week I'll just yell more to compensate hopefully that

01:02:21.319 --> 01:02:29.520
makes up for that's going to make it Peak because the gain's too high apparently so oh

01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:34.640
fine uh so moving right on to Google Smartwatch and Google Glass news this is

01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:39.680
of course a huge deal with the Kit Kat optimizations for low power devices with

01:02:37.160 --> 01:02:44.079
the my internet is apparently being a giant turd I have you keep disconnecting

01:02:41.799 --> 01:02:48.640
yeah I have no idea what's phone the issue is my notebook I think I think it

01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:51.640
needs a restart so um you know what well let's just let's just talk about it if

01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:58.839
if you let me diagnose this you can talk about what's on there right turn it off and back on again um did you try to

01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:03.680
rebooted yes I did thank you it Crow's awesome I actually expected you to kind

01:03:01.160 --> 01:03:07.079
of Knight through this whole topic okay pick another topic then maybe do some of

01:03:05.160 --> 01:03:10.640
our uh I tried see I'm so used to touchcreen I tried to scroll his uh his

01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:15.559
laptop okay I don't even like it go down and do some of our rapid fire topics um

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:20.680
can I do graphics cards no I want to get into that one so yeah don't worry guys

01:03:17.720 --> 01:03:24.200
it's coming uh give me one sec so amongst a few things one of the most

01:03:22.520 --> 01:03:29.920
ridiculous topics we have this week is actually the massive EXP that just took

01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:35.960
up space and uh kind of sat there in Vancouver which is kind of good job you

01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:40.119
took up a parking lot in Vancouver which is like super not helpful for all the

01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:44.359
people that have serious trouble parking in Vancouver every single day thank you

01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:47.960
for that that was great I don't even go to Vancouver and that drives me a little

01:03:45.720 --> 01:03:52.240
bit nuts but either way it's a hype machine so we're talking about it along

01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:55.119
as a whole bunch of other people um yeah we don't even care about Xbox one I'm

01:03:53.720 --> 01:04:00.000
not planning to buy one someone asked me if I'm going to do an unboxing I said yeah sure if I get a free one yeah I'm

01:03:58.240 --> 01:04:06.680
not going to buy buy it though so I think your unboxing would be kind of hilarious I I'd just be like oh yeah

01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:11.520
okay so it's a black it's a box I think that's an Xbox logo on the front but uh

01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:15.440
it's not the first one so I don't know about that but yeah if you if you can

01:04:13.640 --> 01:04:18.839
see in that picture which I'm pointing at which you can't see let me show you

01:04:16.720 --> 01:04:24.039
how to point at things you go like this this way there you go there we

01:04:21.640 --> 01:04:27.720
go if you can see that if you can see the building behind it you can tell how

01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:31.559
actually insanely big that is yeah and like the lines on the parking stalls

01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:36.400
right here like it's huge it's ridiculous massive it's really freaking

01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:39.920
big and then they're just like yeah it's there so you can like go look at it and

01:04:38.160 --> 01:04:43.720
stuff I think you can also enter a contest to win an Xbox One or something

01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:49.079
like that if you go there is like uh you can do it online too though you can do

01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:50.640
okay well so if you go to a URL which is

01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:57.680
I was just planning on us clicking on it but it's xbox.com dca1 Source if you go to that

01:04:55.799 --> 01:05:00.920
which is a little bit probably sounded weird and I said it really quickly but

01:04:58.839 --> 01:05:04.079
oh well you can put in your Gamertag and I think one or two other little bits of

01:05:02.520 --> 01:05:08.960
information you'll be put in a draw to win some stuff right now all we know in

01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:12.440
that group of stuff is an Xbox one but there's some other like things that they

01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:17.359
haven't really said yet I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm going to say some of the other stuff will be Xbox Live

01:05:15.319 --> 01:05:21.799
subscriptions and probably controllers and more Xbox Ones or games or games

01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:26.160
perhaps games probably exclusive games probably exclusive games just some

01:05:23.799 --> 01:05:29.440
assumptions this is like the I don't know I I wanted to have this in here and

01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:32.960
I think you actually added it but I wanted this I didn't remove it because I

01:05:31.359 --> 01:05:36.720
thought it was hilarious that they just like were like oh yeah there's a big

01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:41.760
Xbox in a parking lot in Vancouver go look at it yeah do that thing hype

01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:47.200
machine yeah I don't know kind of obscene um okay so my uh my output's not

01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:51.279
working here unless it is which we are about to find out it is a I can jump on

01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:56.680
to the next one sure yeah jump on to our next one so a gas station clerk took a

01:05:53.960 --> 01:06:02.240
bullet to the chest and was okay and how he did this was by having his phone in

01:05:59.279 --> 01:06:07.000
his pocket apparently um so he didn't even actually realize that his phone

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:10.000
like was broken or what was the cause of it until he po it out took it out of his

01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:14.599
pocket which I think is kind of crazy but he was probably on an insane adrenalin High because he was just shot

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:19.680
at so he probably didn't feel it because of that but it's actually kind of nuts

01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:25.680
so his HTC phone and I'm calling that out for a reason um blocked the bullet

01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:30.359
made him not be critically injured or died judging by the fact that a phone

01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:34.240
blocked the bullet he maybe not died but either way it wasn't going to be helpful

01:06:32.720 --> 01:06:38.599
yeah it wasn't going to be a good situation and then the phone made it a

01:06:35.799 --> 01:06:43.200
not bad situation I'm wondering how fast he's going to go out and buy another HTC

01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:48.720
phone or how fast HTC sends him a free phone or how fast H exactly I bet you

01:06:46.680 --> 01:06:52.279
his next phone however he gets it will probably be an HTC phone so there's a

01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:58.359
picture of the phone you can see the bullet entry right there and how it just decimated the screen but but it's a

01:06:56.039 --> 01:07:02.680
bullet so yeah maybe what we should do is uh instead of drop test is uh

01:07:00.359 --> 01:07:05.839
criticize criticize HTC for the phone breaking it's it's ridiculous I can't

01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:09.200
believe they think this level of quality is acceptable in today's market what we

01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:14.279
should do is we should bullet test an Xbox one as part of the unboxing we should

01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:19.000
take it out to a range and just shoot the crap you have a you have a license

01:07:16.520 --> 01:07:22.240
right yeah yeah okay so we could legitimately do it without it just being

01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:26.200
like you can go to a range and shoot without a license a license is only for

01:07:24.240 --> 01:07:31.440
purchasing and um holding on to like having acquiring

01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:34.839
purchasing all you can go shooting like you can actually go with someone into

01:07:32.839 --> 01:07:39.160
the woods to an area where you can shoot and if they own the gun you can shoot

01:07:36.680 --> 01:07:41.839
and that's not illegal oh okay not that any of this matters for the stream but

01:07:40.520 --> 01:07:45.720
yeah just putting this out there so we can yeah this would be no problem if we wanted to go shoot stuff okay so here's

01:07:44.720 --> 01:07:52.839
what I'm going to have to do I'm just going to have to build us um another little uh scene here guys give us a

01:07:50.279 --> 01:07:56.079
moment here oh look at that we already have this one so then all we have to do

01:07:54.920 --> 01:08:02.760
is add screen region boo what did I do oh that

01:07:59.920 --> 01:08:05.640
was grabbed the side on yeah I got this there we go there we go okay so we're

01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:12.359
adding the screen region all right so let's move into our next topic which

01:08:10.200 --> 01:08:16.520
is oh you know what I probably kind of did this wrong sorry everyone there we

01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:22.839
go let's go move ourselves into the corner

01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:24.920
and yeah expit go away okay Google

01:08:22.839 --> 01:08:29.759
Smartwatch and Google Glass news so this was from ABC News New with new Google

01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:34.319
Glass and Smartwatch Google wants to be all over your body and they're not the

01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:37.040
only one if your name is Slick because I want to be all over your body I knew

01:08:35.839 --> 01:08:41.719
where that was going all right so the Explorer Edition so first up Glass

01:08:39.679 --> 01:08:46.839
Explorer Edition owners can invite up to three others so I actually reached out

01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:48.960
to Marcus brownley from MKBHD already I

01:08:46.839 --> 01:08:52.319
am assuming that this all works and goes according to plan going to be getting my

01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:57.480
hands on this one it's available in new colors with a new earbud which I kind of

01:08:55.719 --> 01:09:04.560
look at and I go oh man that's going to look ridiculous but h i I see how it's

01:09:02.040 --> 01:09:07.799
necessary but I'm not I'm not super thrilled on it no I don't think there's

01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:12.560
a picture but I think it looks it looks pretty ridiculous um but a bigger thing

01:09:10.440 --> 01:09:19.199
is that it is now prescription compatible so that is pretty darn cool

01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:21.719
that is a really big deal um it is still

01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:24.759
sort of slated for a 2014 launch and they haven't said anything about whether

01:09:23.480 --> 01:09:28.799
battery life has been dramatically improved in any anyway so um I'm going

01:09:27.080 --> 01:09:32.480
to I'm excited to try out Explorer I'm sure you're excited to try it out yeah

01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:35.920
for sure and one thing is the new Kit Kat update actually helps with battery

01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:39.799
life a little bit in the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi regions if I remember correctly

01:09:38.080 --> 01:09:44.319
who knows where they were targeting that smart watches class SmartWatches and

01:09:42.040 --> 01:09:48.560
glass so so I think if even if they didn't do anything necessarily to Glass

01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:54.279
in particular for battery life I think it'll be slightly better just because of those two protocols all right so our

01:09:51.719 --> 01:09:58.920
next thing here boom sorry guys this is going to be a little bit inelegant for

01:09:55.719 --> 01:10:03.320
now um and that oh right I I went to it

01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:05.320
on my laptop because I'm used to that so

01:10:03.320 --> 01:10:09.640
good heck's going on here all right so Google May launch a smartwatch before

01:10:07.679 --> 01:10:13.679
Apple the new device would be quote unquote personal

01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:18.440
assistant so obviously the one in the picture guys is not a rumored Google

01:10:16.120 --> 01:10:23.560
Smartwatch that is the Galaxy Gear from Samsung yeah so go it's interesting it

01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:29.000
kind of reminds me of how you treat your Pebble actually which is more like you

01:10:27.040 --> 01:10:32.600
get messages there and you'll notice that someone's calling you and then

01:10:30.360 --> 01:10:36.480
you'll go get your phone it's not really necessarily like something to do a whole

01:10:34.679 --> 01:10:40.320
bunch of things on no and I think that's where Samsung really went wrong they

01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:44.719
tried to make it too much it's like oh well you can return text you can do this you can do you know what I can still do

01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:48.239
that faster on my phone yeah and I actually I I like the way you use it

01:10:46.679 --> 01:10:51.320
because I know even if you don't have your phone on you if I need to just text

01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:55.520
you something that I don't really need to reply back from I just need you to

01:10:53.320 --> 01:10:58.719
know I'll just be like bo bo bo I just don't even care it saved my bacon a

01:10:57.080 --> 01:11:01.920
number of times I was on a court playing badminton and I had left my phone off to

01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:05.520
the side as I'm apt to do and I got a message from my parents that they

01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:09.280
couldn't bring my baby home and I had to go get him so I was able to go get him

01:11:07.120 --> 01:11:13.480
before it was bedtime and then uh just today I had left my phone on the table

01:11:11.320 --> 01:11:17.480
because we were playing music off of it and uh I got a message from you I think

01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:22.600
and it was important and I was like oh oh balls where's my phone but that's that's good and it

01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:26.080
makes a lot of sense and I like that angle actually because that at least for

01:11:24.440 --> 01:11:29.600
now is where I think smart watches should be oh if Google's watching or

01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:35.440
anyone's watching you know those things that you can keep in your wallet that set off proximity alarms like proximo uh

01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:39.080
that needs to be built into SmartWatches so we can enable functionality where if

01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:44.120
I go too far away from my phone it'll uh it'll let me know so there anyone

01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:47.639
listening there's my uh all I want is 20 bucks okay so if anyone implements that

01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:51.920
idea 20 bucks and you can have the patent I don't care no not per just 20 I

01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:55.840
just want 20 bucks or even just buy me a pizza there we'll call I think that might have happened we'll call that done

01:11:54.719 --> 01:12:01.920
if someone's already done it then whatever oh someone bought us a p oh what I think Brandon has it a pizza I

01:12:00.120 --> 01:12:07.600
think so what I'm pretty sure Brandon do you have

01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:13.199
pizza I think he was letting us finish our topic who hey there's Pizza wow okay

01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:20.440
so someone Implement is going to implement this idea oh so it's from The

01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:21.159
Forum there you go a thank you what is

01:12:20.440 --> 01:12:26.840
it celebrating I don't think

01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:28.440
anything how did they get this address I

01:12:26.840 --> 01:12:33.719
know how I didn't give it to them I know how it was you

01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:38.600
oh well thank you guys very much for the pizza so uh because because it's what

01:12:36.320 --> 01:12:43.040
the alpha male does I'm going to eat first while slick has to uh while slick

01:12:41.320 --> 01:12:46.120
has to talk about our new topic I think there's specific rules that you can't

01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:51.400
have any I don't know if those rules stayed no too

01:12:47.639 --> 01:12:53.480
bad so the FAA is loosening the rules

01:12:51.400 --> 01:12:58.679
for E devices on airline flights this was posted by donon whatever man I don't

01:12:56.280 --> 01:13:02.600
know what to tell you Del okay so there's a picture of someone using a

01:12:59.960 --> 01:13:05.320
laptop on a flight and all I have to say is about fraking time and then I'm

01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:09.920
having a piece of pizza yeah it should have happened a long time ago it's been kind of ridiculous even when I was a kid

01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:13.440
playing Game Boy Color on the phone on the on the plane sorry not the phone um

01:13:12.280 --> 01:13:19.880
when the lady would come by and tell me to turn it off I'd just be

01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:22.120
like really like even as a kid how does

01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:25.600
what no there's no way this I'm going to take down a plane with my game boy like

01:13:24.280 --> 01:13:29.199
that's ridiculous and and it's been kind of crazy forever one thing that I think

01:13:27.320 --> 01:13:33.320
is nuts about this is that there's so much crap going on right now and like

01:13:31.679 --> 01:13:39.040
the senate had to get behind this to push it through like couldn't you do

01:13:36.320 --> 01:13:43.480
other stuff like I'm happy this happened and I do actually I don't think it's

01:13:41.080 --> 01:13:47.520
important necessarily but I think it was ridiculous that it existed and I'm happy

01:13:45.320 --> 01:13:51.360
it's gone and it should have been gone I just don't think it necessarily needed

01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:57.040
the like I don't think it should have been required the amount of as it was

01:13:54.080 --> 01:14:02.600
that's ridiculous been so simple now it's not like all the devices all the

01:13:59.400 --> 01:14:05.000
time so phones are still not allowed um

01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:08.520
unless they're in airplane mode and I think they're still asking for certain

01:14:06.440 --> 01:14:12.199
things during taxi and takeoff and you know what some of the concerns I kind of

01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:15.880
understand having a bunch of laptops and like trade tables down and all this

01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:19.600
stuff going on when you're when you're landing and things could be flying

01:14:17.280 --> 01:14:24.560
around in an emergency lot of heavy devices so like this laptop would be

01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:28.719
You' have to Stow it which makes sense because like I think it's 90% of the

01:14:26.679 --> 01:14:33.360
problems happen within 10k of Landing or taking off so if if if there's a higher

01:14:32.040 --> 01:14:38.199
possibility of a problem stole your device that could knock someone out and I get that but on the other hand if I'm

01:14:36.480 --> 01:14:42.600
like if I got my earbuds in and my phone's in my pocket come on man I mean

01:14:40.320 --> 01:14:45.840
honestly I do it anyway I usually wear a hood when I fly so I just put my hood on

01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:50.600
and then I have my earbud going around the other side and then I just have my phone in my pocket and and there's no

01:14:48.719 --> 01:14:53.679
there's no amplification of the signals by having that many of them Wi-Fi is

01:14:52.320 --> 01:14:58.600
going to be allowed now and I've had people saying why would you want Wi-Fi on a plane I can think of a hundred

01:14:56.280 --> 01:15:02.880
reasons to have Wi-Fi on a plane DS multiplayer um you can stream

01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:06.760
multiplayer sweet I know right uh you can stream using like uh to your

01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:09.719
smartphone using those little like external hard drives that are battery

01:15:08.320 --> 01:15:13.639
powered this is something that I do all the time um no it's

01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:17.080
fantastic all right so moving on to our next topic which I would normally open

01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:20.239
up on my laptop but instead I'm going to open it up over here because for

01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:25.480
whatever reason my output's not working I I blame DisplayPort even though I

01:15:22.320 --> 01:15:27.199
love DisplayPort so this is something

01:15:25.480 --> 01:15:33.840
hard to even call a rumor with a straight face this was tweeted to me by

01:15:29.719 --> 01:15:37.920
St toe and it's from overclockers

01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:41.159
do.uk where some guy if you scroll down

01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:42.840
where's his GPU Z shot I think it's uh

01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:49.199
no Catalyst Control Center yeah okay so R9 200 series etc

01:15:46.040 --> 01:15:51.440
etc etc ah yes here so his frequency is

01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:58.040
wrong okay so there's there's hint number one and then I don't know if we

01:15:53.800 --> 01:16:00.639
see spe there we go so the frequency is

01:15:58.040 --> 01:16:05.520
wrong and the number of where are the stream processors I don't see them they

01:16:03.440 --> 01:16:10.800
must be ha maybe they're not anyway the frequency is wrong this is according to

01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:16.800
the rumors which it's really hard to call rumors with a straight face now uh

01:16:13.040 --> 01:16:19.120
radon 290 instead of a 290x so a

01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:25.760
retailer in Europe managed to accidentally ship a an r9290 to a member

01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:30.199
of overclockers obviously the guy is like yeah I ordered

01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:34.800
a 290x so I'm going to exchange it but not until I benchmarked it my favorite

01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:37.800
part is like people are seem kind of unsure and he's not releasing a ton of

01:16:36.440 --> 01:16:44.280
information and then all of a sudden he's like GPU photo of the Box photo of

01:16:41.719 --> 01:16:49.000
the card like yep it's pretty epic now there's an

01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:53.280
issue with this a lot of the time when we say okay but bear in mind Guys these

01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:56.600
are early benchmarks actually there's not going to be that much of a

01:16:54.239 --> 01:17:00.719
difference espe ESP with CPUs when we see that I mean they always have it

01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:06.080
every single time somehow Toms gets a sample like six months early go back and

01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:10.920
look at all of those and it's basically the same performance I mean someone like

01:17:08.040 --> 01:17:14.239
Intel has finalized pretty much everything and they're working on

01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:18.239
fine-tuning for like the last six months leading up to a launch that's how they

01:17:16.120 --> 01:17:21.159
project launch days a quarter or two quarters in advance because they know

01:17:19.639 --> 01:17:26.239
it's done I don't actually find graphics cards to be the same they're ramping up production graphics cards are a little

01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:29.960
bit different yeah where particularly the hardware was probably done a while

01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:33.920
ago but the drivers could be being tweaked in the days leading up to the

01:17:31.280 --> 01:17:38.880
launch or even the days after the launch so whatever benchmarks that he's run I

01:17:36.679 --> 01:17:43.800
know for a fact that those performance numbers may not have very much to do at

01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:47.560
all with how r9290 performs I thought you going the other way and I was like

01:17:45.120 --> 01:17:51.719
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa no no no I mean so so guys take them with a grain of

01:17:49.320 --> 01:17:56.360
salt but until we know pricing and the real performance of r9290 we won't know

01:17:54.960 --> 01:18:03.080
sorry I got something in my eye the whole story all right r9290 and like it

01:18:00.639 --> 01:18:07.679
it could be it could be accurate could be accurate it's all speculation right

01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:12.560
now yeah all right so moving on to our next

01:18:10.480 --> 01:18:18.560
topic this is another rumor this was posted online as Tech tips forum and uh

01:18:15.400 --> 01:18:21.440
it's got the classic fry GIF shut up GIF

01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:26.000
sorry Shut Up And Take My Money the rumor and which we can't verify is that

01:18:23.480 --> 01:18:31.639
the GeForce GTX 7 GTI has 2,880 Cuda

01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:35.760
cores all right so that if it were true

01:18:31.639 --> 01:18:37.120
would be more than GeForce GTX Titan so

01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:41.880
here's all the rumors you guys can check out the thread it was posted by you

01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:43.400
better not and of course um the you

01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:46.760
better not thing is we better not discuss anything that we're under NDA

01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:50.520
about so all we can say is this is what's in that thread there are rumors

01:18:49.040 --> 01:18:55.000
out there on the internet that it'll be available in 3 gig 6 gig and 12 gig

01:18:53.400 --> 01:19:00.320
configurations um although I think the Galaxy images

01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:03.920
are actually pretty interesting are they is it yeah it was it was galaxy images I

01:19:02.400 --> 01:19:08.280
think that showed like three different configurations um there's stuff that's

01:19:06.080 --> 01:19:13.080
no surprise like support for NVIDIA surround and adaptive vsync that I think

01:19:10.400 --> 01:19:15.920
were're probably we I mean okay I'm not going to say it but I think it would be

01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:21.000
stupid if something like that was even under embargo but there you go guys the

01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:24.920
rumors are out there our card is here we've been briefed on it and we are very

01:19:23.080 --> 01:19:30.199
excited to bring you coverage of it as soon as we can but uh that is all we can

01:19:27.719 --> 01:19:34.320
really say for now what we can say is that with everything that's been going

01:19:31.719 --> 01:19:39.520
on lately between AMG and NVIDIA man shots fired shots fired back shots

01:19:37.320 --> 01:19:43.120
returned I mean will these it it feels like one of the ships has to sink

01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:48.960
they're going to run out of cards or they're going to run out of bullets with all the launches and

01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:52.360
pricing tweaks and performance tweaks and everything that's going on it is an

01:19:50.360 --> 01:19:56.480
exciting time for graphics card technology right now and next week we

01:19:54.800 --> 01:20:00.760
think we're going to finally see all the dust settle and all the cards will be on

01:19:58.320 --> 01:20:04.880
the table and we have a lot of videos coming out next week so a lot of plans

01:20:02.440 --> 01:20:08.920
like Battlefield 4 performance roundups stay tuned for that through the roof we

01:20:06.320 --> 01:20:12.400
have we have so Battlefield 4 we have uh two different GPU tests coming we have

01:20:10.679 --> 01:20:15.639
GPU test coming tonight which is going to be like really really early drivers

01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:18.600
aren't optimized yet he's determined to do it tonight it's like not shot yet

01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:25.840
right it's not shot yet but all the performance testing you spent like the last two days I'm it's releasing tonight

01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:26.840
I'm not losing all that work there is

01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:32.320
days ofar iname playthroughs which what we do

01:20:30.120 --> 01:20:36.560
all cards overclocked which what we do stay tuned it's going to be awesome yeah

01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:39.440
and like yeah the drivers are not optimized yet and there's a few things

01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:44.159
and because of that reason we're going to have another GPU followup once the

01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:49.920
two other cards that are coming out is sometime in the future are out we'll

01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:53.719
have a follow up then all right brothers

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:56.239
and sisters this is a bit of a direct

01:20:53.719 --> 01:21:00.639
response to to a particular Twitter follower who keeps trolling me about

01:20:59.280 --> 01:21:04.159
well I shouldn't say trolling keeps harassing me what word should I use you

01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:08.639
know the guy I'm talking about right Alexander I don't know what is this even

01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:12.719
all right this is the uh this is the Forgotten oh yes yes yes I what you're

01:21:10.600 --> 01:21:16.760
talking about who keeps getting on my case about not talking about the

01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:21.320
positive things about Bitcoin because typically it only really makes news for

01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:24.800
us when something disastrous happens like it turns out that however many

01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:28.880
percentage of the transactions were drug related or it turns out this or it turns

01:21:27.120 --> 01:21:34.639
out that or some exchange shuts down that's the only time we really talk about it so now just for you man we are

01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:42.440
going to talk about one of the most positive things that could possibly

01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:45.560
exist about any currency this guy buys

01:21:42.440 --> 01:21:47.400
$27 worth of bitcoin is now worth about

01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:51.800
a million bucks which is amazing so what what he

01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:58.239
did was when it was worth around I think it was like 880,000 is he sold out he

01:21:55.239 --> 01:22:00.400
cashed in at about a fifth one of his

01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:06.080
coins and then bought an apartment in like one of the nicest places where he

01:22:02.400 --> 01:22:09.679
lives which is like sweet he bought

01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:11.280
5,000 Bitcoins in 2009 for 27 bucks and

01:22:09.679 --> 01:22:16.120
the only reason he bought it was because he was interested in

01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:19.760
encryption I think he was doing like a paper or something right yeah I'm just

01:22:17.840 --> 01:22:23.040
trying to just trying to find it yeah working on a thesis paper about

01:22:21.080 --> 01:22:27.040
encryption was introduced to the Bitcoin and was like

01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:30.960
I'll buy a for you just to see kind of how it works uh saves his wallet

01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:36.159
password somewhere forgets it and leaves it there uh eventually heard about how

01:22:34.040 --> 01:22:40.960
exploded it was hunted for his password found his password oh my God I have

01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:42.600
basically a million dollars amazing so

01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:47.000
there you go man stop bugging me on Twitter about it now all right we've got

01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:51.080
some more uh I think that's it for let's go back to our to our headline items to

01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:54.199
make sure that we discussed everything um BBM okay but that's not one of our

01:22:52.639 --> 01:22:59.760
headline ones so we we've covered all that stuff um oh yeah yeah let's do BBM

01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:04.560
all right we jumped over because we talk about too much fun stuff so BBM got I

01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:08.320
think 10 million 10 million downloads in the first day now there's a few kind of

01:23:06.280 --> 01:23:11.800
interesting speculations about this actually posted by the point blank on

01:23:10.480 --> 01:23:17.520
the Linus Tech tips Forum if you guys aren't a member go join the Linus Tech tips Forum yeah we had some people show

01:23:15.040 --> 01:23:20.600
up at our Meetup who weren't members so we chastised them thoroughly i' I've

01:23:19.639 --> 01:23:27.840
noticed a few of them are already members that's good yeah they did well to do so um so one thing that I kind of

01:23:25.760 --> 01:23:34.000
was interested in when I first read this was there was that massive amount of

01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:37.440
copypaste purchased reviews M so how

01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:39.320
many downloads are legitimate and how

01:23:37.440 --> 01:23:43.159
many are actually 10 million on the first day cuz if I'm Blackberry I'm

01:23:41.040 --> 01:23:47.800
probably pretty clever with respect to spoofing IP addresses or faking

01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:52.080
downloads of something yeah so they got a lot of downloads I don't know if it

01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:54.719
was actually 10 million but I have seen a lot of people like just friends of

01:23:53.320 --> 01:23:58.239
mine and stuff talking about about it and download it and using it so they are

01:23:56.440 --> 01:24:02.159
getting a lot of downloads I don't know exactly how much it is it is actually

01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:05.280
pretty cool a few main things that I want to point out that it actually does

01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:09.280
is you don't have to give out your phone number to be able to use it which is

01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:12.000
awesome if you're selling stuff online or just like using Craigslist or

01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:17.080
anything like that or if you're someone like me who wants to communicate with

01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:21.400
you know uh followers or whoever else doesn't necessarily want phone calls

01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:25.360
yeah so that's actually very cool uh picture picture sending doesn't suck

01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:30.239
picture sending through text mess just sucks and yes expensive and is expensive

01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:33.120
and there's other services for this but that is just you can have benefits on

01:24:32.040 --> 01:24:38.199
two different I mean that's something that drives me crazy the carriers had

01:24:36.040 --> 01:24:43.000
every opportunity to just crush this whole iMessage and blackberry messaging

01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:48.199
thing by offering more features better security and I mean come on the actual

01:24:46.280 --> 01:24:53.080
amount of data it cost them the like the rates that they charge for texting they

01:24:50.280 --> 01:24:57.239
allowed this whole thing to exist when they could have just made texting fre

01:24:55.159 --> 01:25:02.000
and not had to bother with any of this and like picture test texting is

01:24:59.480 --> 01:25:07.080
terrible yeah and always has been why is it terrible I don't know is ridiculous

01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:10.520
better attachment support you can send like Excel documents and you can send

01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:14.280
all this other stuff which is really cool and it's encrypted end to end it's

01:25:12.320 --> 01:25:17.880
encrypted for you and then it isn't decrypted until it hits the other person

01:25:16.360 --> 01:25:21.840
with the phone and it's apparently not stored on BlackBerry servers I think

01:25:19.679 --> 01:25:24.400
pretty sure um so that's actually really cool if you're someone following the NSA

01:25:23.280 --> 01:25:27.920
stuff and you really care about like kind of stuff and there's a whole bunch

01:25:26.360 --> 01:25:34.480
more that's just all I felt like listing right now um so my thing go ahead my

01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:39.080
thing personally is why the hell didn't this happen years ago and why the hell

01:25:37.639 --> 01:25:44.639
didn't they release their encryption stuff years ago oh like their business

01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:47.719
grade yeah they should have just flipped gears like I don't know how everyone

01:25:46.440 --> 01:25:52.520
didn't notice they should have just flipped gears became a software company

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:56.480
cuz they're good BBM is good their encryption thing was good they would

01:25:54.080 --> 01:26:00.440
have been really successful and now they have this massive company of Hardware

01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:04.520
stuff that no one cares about and the thing is they could have sold the entire

01:26:02.320 --> 01:26:08.280
ecosystem to corporations I mean it's not just guys remember it's a much

01:26:06.400 --> 01:26:13.000
bigger picture than just selling individual cell phone users you know um

01:26:11.040 --> 01:26:16.679
a secure platform or a secure way of operating their phone or a secure

01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:20.360
messenger because you can sell the backend servers that drive the whole

01:26:18.400 --> 01:26:24.440
thing which they were already heavily invested in so you could you would have

01:26:22.280 --> 01:26:27.760
allowed yourself to not let Android and Apple or Android and iOS catch up to you

01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:33.159
you would have allowed yourself to maintain that dominance there and built a niche but come on I mean who could

01:26:31.080 --> 01:26:37.880
have who could have known that they just didn't stand a chance that Android was

01:26:35.280 --> 01:26:42.639
going to get so much better so fast but years ago they were already

01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:46.400
dead okay like they've they've been dead and flopping around for so long which is

01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:50.760
what I don't understand like yes there was a while there where they were fighting they released the the Bold

01:26:49.320 --> 01:26:56.920
whatever I don't remember the 9300 and they were like kind of cing

01:26:54.480 --> 01:27:01.719
along but then for so long after that they were nothing like why not just flip

01:26:59.679 --> 01:27:05.400
gears or keep producing the hardware whatever to convince investors that it's

01:27:03.679 --> 01:27:09.159
a good idea to do something like that as well and I mean how do you convince

01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:12.440
people that you know a free app is the way forward for your company but the

01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:16.440
encryption and servers and stuff not free app the BBM thing maybe that

01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:22.320
happens later but the encryption and server stuff should have happened a long one way or another guys definitely check

01:27:19.400 --> 01:27:26.760
out BBM um not because we're Canadian and we really want Blackberry to survive

01:27:24.360 --> 01:27:32.679
just because you know it's crossplatform which is great iMessage is fantastic

01:27:30.040 --> 01:27:36.840
except that what it only works with other people who have iOS devices are

01:27:34.080 --> 01:27:40.600
you freaking kidding me Apple like yeah I I'm going to convince all of my

01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:44.880
friends and family that they must use iPhones because I want to use IM messag

01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:49.800
it's ridiculous anyway all right let's move on to the next thing Dell laptops

01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:54.480
Dell issued a recall because they had laptops that smelled like catpa um this

01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:58.320
is don't worry this is a quick top we're not going to talk for too long about

01:27:55.840 --> 01:28:03.239
this but how did this make it through QA honestly like honestly what happened

01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:08.360
here I think that was one of my first comments on the document was like what

01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:12.600
happened so this was posted by chillx Nate On The Forum so the BBC is

01:28:10.400 --> 01:28:14.920
reporting that Dell's latitude 6430u Ultra books have an interesting

01:28:13.719 --> 01:28:19.760
characteristic you won't find in any MacBook Air The Palms rest Palm rest

01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:22.760
emits an odor that smells like cat urine an issue with the manufacturing process

01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:27.119
is thought to be to blame now the funny thing here is you actually have to

01:28:24.719 --> 01:28:30.960
contact Dell and you have to still be within warranty in order to get a

01:28:29.280 --> 01:28:35.280
replacement now it's a business oriented Ultra Book can you imagine walking into

01:28:32.719 --> 01:28:40.320
a business meeting and smelling like cat I mean I have a router that smells

01:28:37.639 --> 01:28:43.760
like Bo which is funny enough but then a laptop that smells like cat you can get

01:28:41.840 --> 01:28:47.199
all kinds of smells out of a faulty plastic manufacturing process and that's

01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:51.679
apparently what happened here it's not a reliability issue or anything like that

01:28:49.440 --> 01:28:54.800
it's just hilarious and it's not bad for your health people speculated about that

01:28:53.400 --> 01:29:00.320
it got a little bit crazy but it's actually fine all right so our last main

01:28:56.960 --> 01:29:01.920
topic of the day before we move on to um

01:29:00.320 --> 01:29:08.119
some of the some of our Forum topics and all that is this video right here this

01:29:04.480 --> 01:29:10.199
was actually tweeted to me by RTE guys

01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:15.040
remember tweeting things to me sometimes works but it's much better and I'll love

01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:20.040
you a lot more if you post on the Forum in the news section because we actually

01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:23.280
have shifted to almost exclusively browsing for news on the Forum because

01:29:21.639 --> 01:29:26.840
we figure what you guys care about is what you want to hear talk about and and

01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:29.600
honestly the new section has gotten so much better oh it's so much better

01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:33.520
pretty much everything ends up there anyway it's so it's so good I mean our

01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:38.080
Forum Community does a great job of maintaining it I mean lineus Tech tips

01:29:35.639 --> 01:29:41.840
Forum News section is my homepage so that's how I stay up to date on

01:29:40.280 --> 01:29:45.520
things which is fantastic to be able to say that about the uh about what the

01:29:43.280 --> 01:29:53.159
community has done there so this video flexible High defin caos displays so

01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:57.280
check this shiz out guys this YouTube

01:29:53.159 --> 01:29:59.400
video right here here I oh but oh yeah

01:29:57.280 --> 01:30:05.199
yeah yeah okay good here we go so let's go ahead and we're just G to um I think

01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:09.760
these advertisement I'm gonna watch Twitch chat because I don't know about

01:30:06.679 --> 01:30:11.719
the audio okay so check this out guys

01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:14.719
just muted that works until now with oxide semiconductors reliability was

01:30:13.400 --> 01:30:18.800
generally a problem check out the way that this display wraps around so you

01:30:17.080 --> 01:30:22.840
could see notifications on the top of the device it's got buttons okay so hold

01:30:21.440 --> 01:30:28.199
on let's let's just go back and look at it again so you you guys should definitely check out this video so it's

01:30:26.040 --> 01:30:31.159
got buttons that sit here on the side and they've got a cool closeup that

01:30:29.639 --> 01:30:36.840
shows you how you might how you might press I mean this is an entirely different way to operate your device and

01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:41.960
then they were also showing off where's the curved battery a curve ah yes

01:30:39.239 --> 01:30:47.239
bendable battery design right here that would be huge for wearable tech tech

01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:52.760
combined with curved displays curved batteries you could be making bracelets

01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:57.960
or armbands or all kinds of crazy awesome wearable techn ology that really

01:30:55.639 --> 01:31:01.280
is whether anyone whether you think so or not really is the future I mean I get

01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:05.639
a kick out of all the speculation about will these guys have a smartwatch will

01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:09.560
SmartWatches be the next yes yes yes it's done it's a foregone conclusion and

01:31:07.480 --> 01:31:12.719
this is absolutely amazing and and like one thing about that too is you can bend

01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:16.520
it around your wrist if it's flat you can bend it around your wrist 10,000

01:31:14.480 --> 01:31:20.440
times apparently before it becomes a problem and you saw their bend test

01:31:18.480 --> 01:31:23.679
there so that's actually pretty cool another crazy thing that they had was

01:31:21.800 --> 01:31:29.199
like I don't remember the exact specs but let me see here a 13 1/2 in 4K

01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:32.639
resolution screen that weighs 10 g go watch that video it's like 4 minutes and

01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:36.880
like it's pretty epic a lot of the time I start watching a video and I'm like okay skim skim I just watched the whole

01:31:35.360 --> 01:31:40.639
thing I was like I need to see this because it's amazing the uh link for it

01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:45.280
will be in the W show Doc at the end you want to start downloading the bill logs

01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:48.880
of the week uh yeah sure is is this it

01:31:45.280 --> 01:31:50.560
uh yeah oh here for crying out loud at

01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:55.480
least we have office on this computer that'll help yes we do okay yay office

01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:59.920
which is still the best so we actually have a bill logs of the week this week

01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:04.840
and it is pretty epic as normal not that surprised um we've changed a little bit

01:32:02.639 --> 01:32:09.719
of the way that we do it uh by suggestion by wher and Dave um my

01:32:08.040 --> 01:32:13.480
moderators who found a better way of doing it so we actually have a little

01:32:11.400 --> 01:32:17.119
bit of hardware specs along with the name at the beginning so if there's

01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:21.600
anything that stands out a little bit we could point it out here the main thing

01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:25.119
being that he went naked on his case which is his brother named his desk the

01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:30.159
plan and it's basically just all sitting on his desk this is a 24 core four

01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:34.920
processor folding machine which is just absolutely Beast well that's one way of

01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:40.000
doing a computer case so it just kind of sits on his

01:32:36.400 --> 01:32:42.480
desk this is a new way of doing a desk

01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:47.239
computer don't even bother bolt it in just you know wood isn't particularly

01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:51.080
electrically conductive so no it's probably fine as long as dust isn't an

01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:55.360
issue and he doesn't accidentally zap it then uh this is an interesting cooler

01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:59.560
layout that we got this is a cable that isn't plugged into anything optical

01:32:57.719 --> 01:33:04.080
drive is clearly too far away to reach an IDE or a SATA

01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:08.119
connector it's kind of awesome there's a little bit more of an updated shot so

01:33:05.560 --> 01:33:12.560
he's actually using a drive cage now yeah all right upgrades and look at the

01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:18.000
it came from a fractal case obviously CU there are the accessories and real

01:33:14.320 --> 01:33:20.199
coolers and more secured cooling setup

01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:24.960
there so he's he's busting out all the folding 24 CPU cores man that's sexy

01:33:23.520 --> 01:33:27.840
that's pretty freaking Beast we're a long way away from games being able to

01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:32.639
leverage something like this but the folding team's been doing really well and in large part thanks to the way that

01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:35.800
folding does leverage more course so that one is for science that one was

01:33:34.239 --> 01:33:38.920
kind of in in big support of our folding team and just to show off some of the interesting things that you can do with

01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:46.239
computers that a lot of people don't actually realize you can now this one check out the case old Russian

01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:51.600
oscilloscope this is pretty cool that is the finished computer wow it's done it's

01:33:49.400 --> 01:33:56.159
in there it works um this isn't if you read the other specs there this is not

01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:58.880
the highest end computer not at all I just I included that cuz I knew you'd

01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:04.880
care because it shows the Finish yeah black prinkle finish it's gorgeous

01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:06.840
yeah so yeah so it's not it's not the

01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:10.960
highest end computer but it's freaking cool and if you go check out all his

01:34:09.360 --> 01:34:16.199
build log you can actually see he takes the whole thing apart like he has to take out the old CRT screen which looks

01:34:14.480 --> 01:34:19.880
ridiculous you got to be careful doing that you don't want them to like explode

01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:24.360
yep and it's it's a really interesting build log also not to a fan not to a fan

01:34:22.199 --> 01:34:27.239
very nice uh so yeah yeah check it out because his build doog is really

01:34:25.400 --> 01:34:31.360
interesting he tears that thing apart and makes just a wonderful little

01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:36.679
machine which is as yeah as you can see oh that's the 24 whatever we're um not

01:34:34.400 --> 01:34:40.119
super high spec but super freaking awesome and yeah I thought those were

01:34:38.719 --> 01:34:43.320
pretty cool okay well I think that's it for the W show for this week unless you

01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:46.320
had anything else to add I think we actually had a very efficient show today

01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:52.560
went pretty quick and covered everything like an hour and a half we ended like right on our Mark and you guys are

01:34:49.719 --> 01:34:55.920
awesome for watching 4500 of you are watching by the end of the show here we

01:34:54.000 --> 01:35:00.840
are as always overwhelmed by your support uh tune in next week same bat

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Time same bat Channel and if you tuned in late or if you know anyone who wants

01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:08.480
to watch or whatever else don't forget the archive always goes up on YouTube

01:35:06.480 --> 01:35:10.960
once we're done with the live show um you know it helps a lot when we don't

01:35:09.480 --> 01:35:14.560
have interruptions I think that was the biggest thing y we didn't have any we

01:35:13.040 --> 01:35:18.440
didn't have any glitchiness today so again thank you for watching until next

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Battlefield video first uh Battlefield 4

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video first and then we will have an after party that's tomorrow morning Ah

01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:37.280
that's why they have to want a date in the morning yeah she's flying to China

01:35:35.800 --> 01:35:42.119
for two weeks so I've seen her before she leaves oh

01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:43.480
okay anyways that was slightly awkward

01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:51.159
now it's over why are we doing

01:35:46.360 --> 01:35:51.159
that you I can't click it