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you've seen a portable projector you've seen a CRT but have you seen a portable

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CRT projector okay portable might be a

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little generous but the vidam magic fp60

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from Sony came with its own carrying bag

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has a microphone input for projecting your voice and did I mention there's a

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built betamax player no how about the

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fact that it uses a single tube to produce a color image rather than three

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tubes like most other CRT projectors in this episode of lonus

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cosplaying as a traveling salesman from the 1980s I can't wait to play with this

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down below according to radiomuseum.org the introductory price for the viam

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magic fp60 was $3,000 that's not that bad for a

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portable projector except that was in 1984

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meaning it would be closer to $9,000 today that's high enough that

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just about nobody was going to be buying these for home theater use but

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businesses well that's another story and cosmetics giant Avon even went as far as

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to co-brand the fp60 and deploy it to

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company Representatives across the United States hence my uh world's

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largest makeup bag here at 35 lbs she's

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more luggable than really portable but when you compare it to other mid 80s

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options for boardroom presentations for example like what a CRT on an AV cart or

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a real toore projector the fp60 had

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major advantages in terms of screen size and in terms of durability and

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convenience so we're going to get to that whole presentation use case but

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first I have a burning question kenet game oh

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yeah fun fact by the way the NES wouldn't come out in America for another

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year we just felt like being Gamers it would be a great choice for us to

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evaluate the latency not going to lie brother I can see it's on but

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uh wow barely I mean is that supposed to

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be curtains at the top or is that just this reason everyone had blacked

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out media rooms right okay we're going to have to lose some lights yeah get the

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lamp there we go oh my God yeah the lamp doesn't do much no we need that one hold

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on I got you I got you it's still

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horrible get this okay hold on I got this one I got this one what that's the

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only light we have left and that's all we got turn it off dude this is terrible

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well you know it's a crd yeah but it didn't get very bright to begin with

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okay hold on hold on that's that's markedly better okay

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we're getting somewhere I mean that's about as far as we're going to get but that's that's not bad okay that lamp's

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got to go that lamp was throwing so much more light than the CRT

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projector with that said looking into

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this thing that's about the brightest CRT I've ever seen right that indextron

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wow there's like hairs in there oh yeah

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you can probably it'd probably be fun to try to play with the focus if you want to basically that's the cross oh it's

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probably slightly out of focus there's also a uh manual focus on the very front

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that you can use okay but you shouldn't don't touch them together or you can

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break the whole Focus system yeah it's definitely still got some blurry spots

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do you have any idea what that is no Elijah tried cleaning the lens so like

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it's been wiped down so basically Elijah touched it yeah Elijah tou said that it

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was bad before he touched it I'm not blaming him in this scenario

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maybe some of the phosphors are worn out or something or like some of the co CU

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you can see it looks like burnning when you've got it on a single um like color

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here oh my God what this is perfect

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right there's no latency there's none cuz it's a CRT it's a projector but it's

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a CRT a CRT wow it's like so easy this

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is like freaking Easy Street and it looks pretty good hey like those blacks

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actually look pretty black it's pretty colorful too like this is not bad no

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it's not bad at all I mean it's not good

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no but in a in a dark environment though

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this is like totally

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fine oh no wow you're diding so well

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let's see you do better I probably won't another thing that's not included with

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ours is a working speaker unfortunately yeah it's just not working and

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theoretically we could use our uh technical manual service manual to

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repair it or we could just not do that

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oh my God you're wasting the pow there's no pow we don't need it I thought you

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were too good you don't need the pow did you die yeah again I hit a blue shell

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while it was flipped over we've already realized that when it comes to old games

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you'll usually win new games I don't

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know okay well that was you dying on purpose I actually did not

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okay all right this is it for all the marbles here we

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go um they kill me yeah yeah yeah they

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kill you if they're um moving yeah yeah yeah this feels too good I know right

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like it feels like you're playing on a CRT yeah because the only additional

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latency compared to looking directly into a CRT is the speed of light to the

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screen that's it so just the slightly

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increased like distance the light has to travel like this is awesome

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but blue we're getting about 2.2 nits 2.2

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nits the point two matters let's stop it for now cuz I want

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to talk about brightness In fairness most projectors don't get that bright

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compared to direct view displays but this is clearly way behind the

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experience that Sony showed off in this by the way amazing promotional video

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that was recently re-uploaded by retro TV film and video and if we look

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closely yep composited got him now it was probably

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brighter when it was new CRTs do Decay over time but they show this thing being

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usable in a literally sunlit room when realistically it would have needed pitch

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Darkness even then with that said how

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cool would a land party have been if someone showed up with one of these bad

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boys oh it'd be sick with like a GI even not even 180 50 60 in that would be

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unheard of as a kid unheard of a regular CRT tube TV works by coating the front

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glass with a phosphor material that lights up when it gets Zapped by one of

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three electron guns one for red one for green and one for blue with our CRT

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projector we're not looking at a lit up phosphor screen

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so what are what is going on here it

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turns out it's surprisingly simple they're still using a cathode ray tube

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to generate the image and we can see that if we look directly down the barrel

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but it's upside down and backwards so that once it goes through the lens which

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is basically functioning as a giant magnifying glass it'll be the right way

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around now I alluded to this before but one of the big Innovations for the vid

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magic was that most CRT projectors in those days were using three separate

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tubes and lenses for RG and B kind of

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like this they were reliable but they were extremely heavy and and

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inconvenient to set up supposedly it took quite some time to get them all

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lined up correctly and something as small as a swift kick to the table it

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was resting on could put the whole thing out of whack again another major hurdle

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they faced was well you can probably guess from what we've seen so far

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brightness CRTs by modern standards are

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pretty dim to begin with and projecting that light across a much larger area

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exacerbates the issue how do you fix all of that

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okay the fp60 is no regular CRT it uses

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a single electron gun with a beam index

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tube so to get the right colors from a single gun they would modulate the beam

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strength then there was a fourth phosphor stripe and when that lit up the

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result was captured by a photo multiplier tube and that signal was then

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Amplified and sent to a decoder circuit which would basically check if the

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colors were correct and then adjust the modulation of the beam on the fly if you

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open this thing up the number of boards involved to properly index and decode

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the signals is pretty wild by the way shout out to 12volt vids for this

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amazing footage from his repair video a few years ago that gives us a great look

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by the way at the water cooling that was built into this projector now this

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design did have drawbacks like inferior contrast but the benefits were Brighter

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Images no convergence problems and lower

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sensitivity to magnetic interference which is why they saw some military use

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Sony commercialized a couple of versions of this technology including the

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indextron tube which was used in our fp60 as well as in the highly sought

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after kvx 370 watch cube a super cute

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4in bedside TV that came out in

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1989 realistically nobody was buying

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this thing for gaming so why don't we try a movie this definitely makes these

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1980 special effects not look out of place yeah I mean they look pretty good

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um at this resolution yeah at this brightness got to love those four

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textures not 4K just four this looks about how I remember

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watching TV in the 9s no we had more

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color than that the contrast is terrible

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fine yeah terrible so I guess what we

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want to know is how much of what we're looking at is limitations of the betamax

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format and or degradation of the tape versus how much of it is limitations of

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the performance of our projector so do we want to throw our DVD on yeah let's

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put our DVD in I think it's already in the player okay I love how delightfully

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easy to operate this thing is yeah it's pretty simple switches for different

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modes y this looks better I think that

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other than getting 16 by9 M which we can

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actually kind of take advantage of with this projector because the image isn't

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so small that you are basically just like well I gave up 30% of my whole

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screen I don't think this is a whole ton

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better though like a little bit I think it's a little better a little bit

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looking into the lens this is as bright a CRT as I have ever seen how small does

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it get to be CRT bright off the projection screen I'm going to move it

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okay moving forward careful this is like 60 80 lbs worth of I got I got you oh

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yeah I got hang on yeah um wow that's

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still really dim okay

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more I think that's his oh that is as

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much as it goes boy so we can't go any smaller than this yeah all right so it's

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not great for watching movies either but there were advantages to using a CRT

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projector even when LCD and DLP option

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options started hitting the market better black levels and better flesh

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tones no pixelation and exceptionally

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long tube life most CRT projectors were

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rated for around 10,000 hours while the bulbs in LCD and DLP projectors were

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only good for 1 or 2,000 they'd also gotten pretty cheap on the used Market

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by then so you could go with the used CRT projector and still have money left

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over to spend on the new noock to a screwdriver from LTD store.com to take

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it apart when you need to change the tube by the way guys we got a full

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service manual for this thing and a second projector let us know in the

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comments if you want to see Dan try to fix it with all of that said these

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benefits were not enough to keep CRT projectors in fashion like their TV set

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Brethren they were replaced by lighter brighter models even if it meant

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sacrificing a little bit of image quality for actually years to come and

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the last CRT projector came out in 2001

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the pro 1200 X from Zenith it retailed

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for about $30,000 and weighed around 155

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lb by contrast the high-end Christy Mirage 200000 DLP projector launched in

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the same year for 55 grand but weighed

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almost half of what the Zenus did and was roughly seven times brighter modern

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projectors have obviously gotten a lot better by the way and we'll have some

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decent options linked down below back to our fp60 though the only thing we

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haven't done yet is give a presentation

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like a CD oh know we're going to do video disc next oh yeah okay I don't

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know we'll see it's like a floppy disc