WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.279 recently we took a look at the best selling controllers on Amazon but thing 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:10.880 is being popular doesn't necessarily mean something is good and in the 00:00:08.200 --> 00:00:15.519 comments you guys bombarded us with all of your favorite controllers that we 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:21.600 missed but guys there are like 20 controllers here how can we possibly 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:24.560 decide which one is the best by doing 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:28.679 something we have never done before a concept we're calling the ultimate 00:00:26.560 --> 00:00:34.239 single elimination knockout bracket tier list Showdown we've got options ranging 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:39.920 from $25 all the way to $200 and guys if you think that more 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:45.800 money means more better you are in for some big surprises so let's get into it 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:51.840 and see who's going to be the Undisputed intercontinental champion of controllers 00:00:49.120 --> 00:00:58.280 just like I am the Undisputed intercontinental champion of segue to 00:00:55.120 --> 00:01:00.359 our sponsor boot dodev learning how to 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:05.640 code doesn't have to be boring and monotonous make it fun with boot. deev's 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:10.479 unique gamified approach click our link and use code LT to get 25% off your 00:01:08.479 --> 00:01:14.840 payment today to keep our bracket at a sweet 16 we're going to kick things off 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:19.240 with a quick high-end controller Showdown for these last two spots but 00:01:17.880 --> 00:01:22.840 don't worry guys even though we're starting on the pricee side half of the 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:27.880 really great controllers that we're looking at are $50 or less not these 00:01:25.960 --> 00:01:33.680 ones though our first cage match is between two heavy weights and in the 00:01:30.240 --> 00:01:36.079 case of the fly Digi Apex 4 I mean that 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:41.439 very very literally at 329 G this is the heaviest controller in 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:45.920 our Showdown and that's in part because it's the most featur rich it has a 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:51.200 removable face plate that covers tension controller for the analog sticks a large 00:01:48.360 --> 00:01:56.840 battery to power the onboard OLED screen a gyroscope for gyroscopic aiming and 00:01:54.320 --> 00:02:02.159 adaptive triggers that through software can control their stopping point this is 00:01:59.600 --> 00:02:05.799 the top offering from fly Digi a name that you're going to be hearing a lot 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:10.679 today up against it is the Turtle Beach stealth Ultra which has many of the same 00:02:08.160 --> 00:02:14.959 features as the Apex 4 trading hall effect adaptive triggers for real 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:20.400 trigger stops and even adding a headphone jack as well as an included 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.239 dock however it's today's lowest rated 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:27.840 Gamepad with the common complaint being regular disconnections H it's kind of a 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:32.519 key feature Turtle Beach oh dude this is gorgeous oh it's smooth it's like I can 00:02:30.239 --> 00:02:37.720 actually control what the crap I'm doing oh did you adjust the the tension on the 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:40.360 stakes yeah they are at maximum it's I 00:02:37.720 --> 00:02:44.319 like it feels good I agree yeah I'm going to try the other one it's the one 00:02:41.920 --> 00:02:49.959 that has the most alternative shape Weir uh yeah it's uh not a plus in my humble 00:02:47.239 --> 00:02:53.920 opinion uh oh my God these sticks feel so cheap Now by 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:58.040 comparison what's the price difference between these two 160 and 200 what this 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:05.480 is the more expensive that's the more expensive one oh I mean okay well this is easy I'm sorry but you're out next up 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:09.120 the Wolverine V3 Pro is the noons top-of-the-line Esports offering from 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:13.280 Razer it's one of the most premium feeling controllers that we're looking 00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:16.680 at but you need to like back paddles these are right under where your fingers 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:20.239 rest and you will want to disable them in software if you're not used to them 00:03:18.239 --> 00:03:24.280 to avoid pressing them accidentally constantly now I'm not much of a paddle 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:28.480 guy but I will say that these are contoured really nicely for your fingers 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:34.120 and feel really good cuz they used actual Mouse micro switches I could see 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:40.080 this competitor going pretty far as long as it doesn't suddenly die boom razor 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:43.280 burst roasted wow what the 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:45.760 one of today's boldest designs with 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:51.720 lots of textures and pieces of plastic in strange places is the PDP victrix Pro 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:56.280 BFG it comes with a ton of extras like this module to replace the right analog 00:03:53.879 --> 00:04:00.840 stick and face buttons with six buttons perfect for fighting games you can also 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:05.159 buy optional hall effect modules which we did and rolled into our cost one 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:09.519 awkward thing though when we tested the circularity of the hall effect modules 00:04:07.480 --> 00:04:14.280 compared to the ones that came with it they were actually worse than the 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:19.720 original potentiometer based sticks it also has trigger stops although the 00:04:15.959 --> 00:04:22.560 toggle for them is needlessly kind of 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:26.520 finicky with that said I like having the granularity not to mention the super 00:04:24.520 --> 00:04:30.800 grippy spot for my Palms as a bit of a sweaty boy I'm going to give it to the 00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:34.039 vitrix pro now for the main bracket when you pick up the gamer Nova light it's 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:37.479 not going to surprise you to find out that it is the cheapest controller in 00:04:35.880 --> 00:04:41.440 our Showdown that doesn't mean it feels bad in fact I'd say it feels better than 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:45.479 the more expensive Logitech controllers that we looked at last time and it even 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:49.560 has some more premium features including hall effect sticks but while the 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:53.400 triggers are a similar shape to the Dual Senses they feel kind of flimsy and 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:59.160 Light by comparison though at this kind of price H it's pretty easy to justify 00:04:56.520 --> 00:05:04.160 moving on our pick from the last video doesn't need much introduction it offers 00:05:01.280 --> 00:05:10.560 up hall effect sticks and triggers and has an included 2.4 GHz dongle in a very 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:12.120 solid $30 package but the last time it 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:16.120 only had to stand out against the popular kids how will our reigning 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:20.520 Champion hold up against these much stronger audience favorites I think both 00:05:18.919 --> 00:05:24.759 of them are very similar when it comes to the quality of the face buttons and 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:29.360 the weight of the joy sticks and I am not a fan of the way the 8bit dough 00:05:27.080 --> 00:05:33.039 brings my elbows in tighter compared to the game sir which gives me a bit of a 00:05:30.960 --> 00:05:37.639 wider stance what if I told you the input latency was four times better on 00:05:35.080 --> 00:05:37.639 the 8bit 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:43.680 D on a wire is the gam ster any good 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:47.840 quite good it is 6 milliseconds on overwire which is well within the Sweet 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:51.680 Spot all things considered the Gamester puts up a really good fight and if this 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:56.000 is what a little brother controller felt like when I was a kid I would have been 00:05:53.319 --> 00:06:00.280 thrilled but for just $5 more the ultimate 2C has much better latency over 00:05:58.479 --> 00:06:05.039 Wireless which makes it kind of a no-brainer in the year 2025 next up is 00:06:03.080 --> 00:06:09.800 the most affordable offering from easz SMX a company that is well known in the 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:15.240 controller community and seemingly nowhere else this one definitely feels 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:19.400 its price it's a little kind of bulbous almost like a Fisher Price controller 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:24.199 and the buttons are kind of mushy with what might be the worst d-pad in our 00:06:21.880 --> 00:06:28.759 Roundup up against it is the rematch glow from PDP who makes some of the most 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:33.240 popular cheap controllers on the market and has been doing so for quite some 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:38.240 time this may be the least featured controller of the day which makes its 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:40.520 higher price a little puzzling that is 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:45.759 until you turn out the light that is a pretty neat gimmick but not enough to 00:06:43.080 --> 00:06:48.560 stand out against even a weak competitor I think for most folks who want a 00:06:47.080 --> 00:06:54.000 glowing controller they'd be better off just picking up a glow circuit skin from dbrand and putting it on an Xbox 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:58.319 controller this one's a Puzzler it's a GameStop model so you would just assume 00:06:55.960 --> 00:07:03.039 it's awful but it can be customized with these cute little accessories it comes 00:07:00.080 --> 00:07:10.360 in at a reasonable mid-range price and is rated almost 4.7 Stars by oh wait 00:07:07.400 --> 00:07:14.240 only three gamers also the fact that the base kit doesn't come with everything 00:07:11.960 --> 00:07:19.240 you need is definitely confusing and good Heavens is this ever the cheapest 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:23.800 feeling plastic that I have ever felt on the face plate of a controller like what 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:28.680 were they thinking cheap feeling up against it is our other wired controller 00:07:25.960 --> 00:07:34.720 on the list this is a solid allrounder at a fair price the gamster G7 SE and H 00:07:32.280 --> 00:07:39.599 have swappable face plates lockable rear buttons and kind of configurable hair 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:44.360 triggers although it's done by moving the actuation point in software rather 00:07:41.960 --> 00:07:48.520 than having a physical stopper so not sure if that fully counts there are a 00:07:46.479 --> 00:07:53.159 couple of differences between the two and for me I think I'll take the rumble 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:56.520 motor the extra grippiness and in general it feels so much nicer in the 00:07:54.960 --> 00:08:02.000 hand compared to the candy con that I just there's no question sports betting 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:04.120 apps ly give the fly Digi direwolf one 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:08.159 of the strongest odds to walk away the Victor today with excellent performance 00:08:05.840 --> 00:08:13.159 for the price and a lot of love for the triggers ooh they do feel nice not to 00:08:11.479 --> 00:08:18.240 mention the build quality and reliability I have very high hopes for 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:22.599 this one there's no fruy extras just the basics that matter and even a somewhat 00:08:20.840 --> 00:08:26.240 functional d-pad it's still on a circular pad which I don't personally 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:32.399 prefer but it's got a reasonably good tactile feel I don't love the rumble 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.919 motor really but if I had game sound on 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:38.479 it wouldn't be bothering me oh yeah the sound it's the sound and I have no such 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:44.200 issue with what could be a potential Dark Horse in our race here the Nixie 00:08:40.880 --> 00:08:46.480 Master P1 has a premium feel with solid 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:51.959 Comfort tactile buttons toggleable hair triggers and RGB lighting now it's 00:08:49.640 --> 00:08:57.399 unimpressive 200 HZ pulling rate may hurt it especially in games where 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:59.160 latency is everything but I don't know 00:08:57.399 --> 00:09:02.640 maybe I'm not that Discerning the rumble feel feels a lot better David I don't 00:09:00.839 --> 00:09:07.839 know it seems like you were leaning toward the fly Digi 00:09:04.760 --> 00:09:10.160 but it's a nice Rumble definitely prefer 00:09:07.839 --> 00:09:12.640 the shoulder on the master P1 oh no I think I prefer the shoulder on the dir 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:16.720 Wolf the triggers are way better on the master P1 though those are nice juicy 00:09:14.920 --> 00:09:21.079 feeling triggers it's going to be the master P1 for me oh it's an upset and 00:09:19.079 --> 00:09:24.880 the fans are upset does everyone love the fly Digi it's a very popular 00:09:22.880 --> 00:09:28.600 controller but this is a new controller so hey maybe we're offering a good 00:09:26.760 --> 00:09:34.560 alternative I like it this is a this is a nice comp editor next up is our first 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:37.360 first party controller an Xbox Elite no 00:09:34.560 --> 00:09:42.399 wait if we look a little closer we can see huh not to mention feel the 00:09:39.760 --> 00:09:49.720 difference for one thing the easz SMX X10 has a magnetic face plate and handle 00:09:46.079 --> 00:09:52.680 plates ooh that's kind of cool it also 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:56.040 has clicky mechanical style face buttons that I have to say it's kind of 00:09:54.279 --> 00:10:00.399 surprising how many controllers are switching over to Mechanical buttons now 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:06.760 it's not what I'm used to but I can also see why people like it overall it feels 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:08.200 almost premium and extremely natural in 00:10:06.760 --> 00:10:13.800 the hand if you're used to a first-party Xbox controller going up against it is 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:15.360 the power a Ops V1 power a is one of the 00:10:13.800 --> 00:10:20.160 few brands that we're looking at that has serious penetration into big retail 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:24.959 chains and has a long history of making serviceable third-party controllers 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:29.760 surprisingly the lab's team was quite impressed with the performance of this 00:10:27.040 --> 00:10:34.720 fortnite themed banana with buttons it managed the lowest input latency over 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:39.399 both a wire and with its wireless dongle as well as good circularity on the 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:42.600 sticks I got to say I was not expecting 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:45.480 a power a device to come in this strong 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:49.920 it's got lockable triggers two stage lockable 00:10:46.920 --> 00:10:52.279 triggers yes and four rear paddles 00:10:49.920 --> 00:10:55.920 compared to just the two it does not feel as premium in the hand but I still 00:10:54.519 --> 00:11:00.320 think I have to give it the edge for the extra functionality next up we've got 00:10:57.800 --> 00:11:05.959 the G5 Pro a very popular controller with pretty positive reviews sticks feel 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:12.120 pretty normal the triggers are a little bit on the light side maybe for some 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:14.600 people and oh those are so bad these 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:19.760 bumpers may be the worst that we've seen so far face buttons feel okay they're a 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:23.800 micro switch style face button and it has a removable face plate which is cool 00:11:22.040 --> 00:11:28.560 but might not make up for some of the concerns that people have raised over 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:33.240 build quality going up against it is a somewhat famili face we have favorably 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:37.760 covered the predecessor to the King Kong 3 because of its inclusion of hall 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:42.560 effect Hardware before it was all the AG and also its easy repairability it's a 00:11:40.160 --> 00:11:46.680 solid controller at a reasonable price but some software bugs and uneven 00:11:44.920 --> 00:11:52.839 trigger travel have turned some people off and also shockingly we found that 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:57.800 its 2.4 GHz dongle had the highest latency out of anything that the Labs 00:11:55.240 --> 00:12:02.959 tested even higher than this same controller over blue Bluetooth that's 00:12:00.760 --> 00:12:06.440 embarrassing there also just isn't really anything to make it stand out 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:10.760 they've got their modular stuff where you can put the paddles on or take them 00:12:08.079 --> 00:12:15.199 off which is really nice yeah I think I got to put the King Kong 3 Pro through 00:12:12.440 --> 00:12:20.360 to the next round not yet no you don't there's a bonus round the easz SMX X20 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:25.240 arrived uh after we had seated our tournament so you need to compare the 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:29.839 King Kong to the SMX 20 ooh this actually feels pretty good this is two 00:12:27.199 --> 00:12:36.000 steps up from the x10 adding trigger locks o which actually feel really nice 00:12:33.880 --> 00:12:39.440 not to mention are really quick to toggle the modes on I actually really 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:43.560 like the ergonomics of that o the shoulder the shoulders are nice too it's 00:12:41.800 --> 00:12:48.279 got the paddles already so I don't have to put modular paddles on it but they're 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:51.680 totally out of the way which is nice this is cheaper than the King Kong Pro 00:12:49.839 --> 00:12:55.800 10 bucks than the pro yeah ooh likey oh see you later buddy we 00:12:54.639 --> 00:13:01.399 might have a new front runner by the sounds of it this is the fly Digi Vader 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:04.040 4 it's step up from their dir will free 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:10.560 and it feels like an Xbox controller but with even more extras oh adjustable 00:13:06.839 --> 00:13:13.480 stick tension ooh this is not a cheap 00:13:10.560 --> 00:13:17.639 controller but adjustable stick tension I am liking that a lot on the 00:13:15.560 --> 00:13:22.120 controllers I've seen it on so far and this one has a way better interface for 00:13:20.079 --> 00:13:27.199 it it's just this dial around the stick what's it going up against though oh 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:32.199 here's a familiar name to Xbox Gamers Turtle Beach with the stealth pivot and 00:13:30.040 --> 00:13:36.240 this has got kind of a neat gimmick there's these locks on the back okay so 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:45.360 I've unlocked them now and when they're unlocked you take the sticks pop them in 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:49.880 and whoa you can switch them to a 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:52.480 dedicated fight mode okay that's pretty 00:13:49.880 --> 00:13:56.959 cool but to fit all that pivoting in them there are some compromises on the 00:13:54.480 --> 00:14:01.040 ergonomics and I have real doubts about the reliability of the sticks long term 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:05.680 when you're kind of tucking them in over and over again otherwise it actually 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:11.040 feels like a pretty nice controller even if it's a bit Duke like in its profile 00:14:09.199 --> 00:14:15.959 of course another major drawback for this strange little fell is the price it 00:14:13.920 --> 00:14:20.800 costs about as much as buying a regular controller and a fight 00:14:18.880 --> 00:14:25.440 controller I don't think I can give it the win but not because it's a bad idea 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:30.199 or because it's not well executed it actually seems like a sick controller if 00:14:28.199 --> 00:14:34.000 you are the right customer for this who plays a lot of fighting games and I'm 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:39.720 not okay this d-pad is literally ass so 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:44.839 that's something using all the value controllers and then coming back to 00:14:41.680 --> 00:14:44.839 these really expensive 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:51.040 ones they're having a hard time justifying their price all right what 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:56.600 about the Apex 4 oh there's no question okay Apex wow 00:14:54.560 --> 00:15:00.880 that quick he yeah it just feels so much better it's freaking heavy which I don't 00:14:58.680 --> 00:15:05.360 love but the adjustable tension on the sticks man that feels so good that means 00:15:03.680 --> 00:15:11.920 we have a fly Digi face off in the next round and I'm very excited about that no 00:15:08.079 --> 00:15:13.360 no fly Digi okay we're into round two 00:15:11.920 --> 00:15:17.800 man I'm not going to lie it seems like the x05 got a bit of a free ride to the 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:21.360 second round I don't think this is as good as pretty much anything else in the 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:26.079 second round here we've switched up games so now it's going to come a lot 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:30.279 more down to stick quality and precision not that I'm necessarily the best person 00:15:27.839 --> 00:15:33.519 to judge stick precision but hey take it for what it is it's worth noting that we 00:15:32.079 --> 00:15:37.199 switched to a wire on this one because we broke the dongle that is giving a bit 00:15:35.560 --> 00:15:40.480 of a latency Advantage compared to running wirelessly but it shouldn't be 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:45.240 enough to give it the edge especially cuz I don't think it's going to win 00:15:42.880 --> 00:15:48.800 apido Ultimate 2C here we go I still don't like the stance of this one feel 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:52.839 like I could get used to it but definitely not my favorite it feels way 00:15:51.160 --> 00:15:56.680 more quality when you consider that it's the same price 30 bucks that is the 00:15:55.319 --> 00:16:00.560 special edition one which is 10 bucks more but it's the same performance wise 00:15:58.480 --> 00:16:06.160 it just looks I like the d-pad a lot better on this one oh man I really 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:11.800 really do not prefer the shape of this every time I pick it up I'm like oh that 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:13.800 I'm taking the easy SMX x05 woo big 00:16:11.800 --> 00:16:18.360 upset I didn't think I was going to pick this either it feels so cheap but I just 00:16:16.160 --> 00:16:21.839 the control is better I think if I was getting an overall controller I would 00:16:20.079 --> 00:16:25.480 pick this but if I'm playing Shooters I actually would pick that one over this 00:16:23.079 --> 00:16:29.079 one the gamer G7 H is going to have to do something pretty special to Come Away 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:32.199 with the win here it's tough to be a wired controller in a wireless 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:35.519 controller's World paddles aren't getting in my way not pressing them by 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:40.680 accident but they're there in case I need to bind them Nixie Master P1 our 00:16:38.040 --> 00:16:48.839 Dark Horse indeed this Rumble is truly not very good no I can't bring a wired 00:16:43.560 --> 00:16:48.839 controller forward David you can oh 00:16:49.199 --> 00:16:55.199 gosh I'd rather game on the game sir this is one of the most popular ones out 00:16:53.519 --> 00:17:00.199 there so some people out there are very happy that's the thing about a knockout 00:16:57.319 --> 00:17:06.919 style playoff only one person can be happy and 15 people are going to be 00:17:02.319 --> 00:17:09.000 upset power a Ops V1 versus easy SMX X20 00:17:06.919 --> 00:17:12.559 oh actually feels really good so far how was the circularity of this one again it 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:15.760 was good it was like in the good Zone it wasn't the best but it was good so the 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:21.799 circularity of the joysticks that we've been talking about is how well the input 00:17:19.679 --> 00:17:24.919 matches the circle that you draw with it if it's oval that's bad it means that 00:17:23.600 --> 00:17:29.440 depending on whether you're going up and down or left and right it can have a 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:34.200 different amount of input which which is yeah obviously undesirable okay easy as 00:17:32.520 --> 00:17:38.440 oh this is stiff competition though I really like this one it had to beat two 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:42.840 contenders to get here oh I really like the position of the paddles on this one 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:46.919 in that I can reach them really easily but I can also completely ignore them if 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:50.280 I don't want to use them I wish we were doing a tier list now instead of a 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:54.000 bracketed playoff actually we're going to at the end oh okay that's good 00:17:52.080 --> 00:17:59.799 because there's a lot of really really great controllers that just weren't the 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:02.640 best controller you know mhm M mhm I got 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:06.840 to take the easyy SMX more like easy Cruising Into the semis 00:18:04.919 --> 00:18:10.880 woo this one's going to be a heartbreaker for fly Digi fans no matter 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:15.600 which way it goes remember that one is $80 and one is 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:21.480 $160 oo but they both have the adjustable tension on the analog sticks 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.880 Apex 4 it's like yeah I play on Xbox but 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:28.000 not because I couldn't afford a top of the lion PC cuz like I'm holding this 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:30.919 controller like it feels so good it's kind of inconvenient that their more 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:34.720 premium controller though is the one that has the less convenient mechanism 00:18:32.760 --> 00:18:39.000 for adjusting the sticks just to be clear am I supposed to pick the better 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:42.200 controller or the one that I think is makes more sense for you to buy I think 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:46.600 it's what you like what you would spend your money on if I got them all for free 00:18:44.679 --> 00:18:52.480 I take this one no question I think that's the winner then yeah okay I think 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:54.720 it's a winner okay semis how the hell is 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:58.559 this thing still in the running it doesn't seem right I'm hyped if there's 00:18:56.600 --> 00:19:05.120 another Budget King that's sick how much is it 30 bucks this is 30 bucks $30 it's 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:07.240 30 bucks David what's to hate you know I 00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:12.679 mean people find ways to hate things but like oh it's a great controller for the 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:16.840 price face button responsiveness is definitely the downside to the easy SMX 00:19:15.159 --> 00:19:20.720 if I'm playing only shooter games and I don't really need my face buttons that 00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:25.640 much great they're not as good as the gamster though I got to give it to the 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:27.280 gamer woo let's give the easy SMX X20 a 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:32.280 chance here good face buttons this thing so good yeah it's 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.280 really 00:19:33.760 --> 00:19:39.240 nice oh this d-pad is just such a sorry 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:45.960 excuse for a d-pad on an otherwise like outstanding controller oh what a oh what 00:19:42.080 --> 00:19:48.000 a shame okay let's try d-pad here oh I 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:54.480 like this one this is a very usable d-pad another Factor 160 versus 60 00:19:51.600 --> 00:20:01.320 literal $100 price difference oh this one's better it's better it's better it 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:03.679 wins fly Digi has been eliminated from 00:20:01.320 --> 00:20:08.280 this competition I really really like this controller like I like it a lot if 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:12.080 you love The Apex 4 and you spent a bunch of money on it you've got a great 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:16.280 controller and you should love it just don't use the 00:20:13.679 --> 00:20:24.559 d-pad we go into Forza now we decide third place oh fly Digi Apex 4 I like 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:27.840 this thing I still really like it it is 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:29.200 great meanwhile up against a $30 00:20:27.840 --> 00:20:33.159 controller that also made it this deep it's funny 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:37.000 how there can be a difference between a light trigger and a cheap feeling 00:20:35.120 --> 00:20:40.600 trigger both of these controllers have excellent granularity on the throttle 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:45.919 like I can make a small adjustment without making a mistake but one just 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:50.840 feels better a killer controller for 30 bucks but it's not as good as the Apex 4 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:55.919 and the challenge is which one's the best at each tier I still think this is 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:59.240 going to be in like s tier value like 00:20:55.919 --> 00:21:03.400 honorable mention value King easy X 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:06.200 Gamer's Choice indeed okay now it's time 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:09.880 to find the king Good Vibration I actually forgot about that the X20 has a 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:14.960 nice Rumble motor really nice feeling trigger good analog sticks rubberized 00:21:12.360 --> 00:21:21.000 tops I remember why I like this one so much got the paddles they're not in the 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:23.159 way got the locks gamer what the hell 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:29.559 are you even doing here you're a company that we mocked in our early budget 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:34.120 peripheral roundups being like ha Gam 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:36.480 sir but sir you game I do not like the 00:21:34.120 --> 00:21:40.880 triggers as much I do not prefer the rumble motor trigger's pretty good the 00:21:38.320 --> 00:21:43.440 sticks are just perfect maybe they're not perfect I'm sure the lab's results 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:47.760 are going to show that they're not perfect nothing's perfect but they're 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:52.279 good enough and it's not just the circularity of them the curve is right 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:56.240 they feel good but I got to give it to the easy SX it's almost the same price 00:21:54.440 --> 00:22:04.080 and you don't need a wire I wish had a confetti cannon we we have it the winner the easy 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:08.240 SMX X20 you've got to tell me now what was your king the Vader 4 I think it 00:22:06.360 --> 00:22:12.120 feels almost as good as the Apex or's like yeah it's not quite as premium but 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:15.840 I didn't care for that stuff and the fact that the stick control was under 00:22:13.840 --> 00:22:21.279 the face plate pissed me off I thought that was such a stupid design choice so 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:24.640 overall value at $80 Vader 4 easy winner 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:27.039 Labs picked the ultimate 2C really for a 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:31.039 mix of value good sticks good input latency and it's just a great great all 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:35.159 round controller I didn't like the ergonomics that's something that I can't 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:39.760 argue with I can't believe that not a single controller on or near the podium 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:45.279 was from a brand that I really think of as a gaming brand no no razor no Turtle 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:49.320 Beach what you haven't teered anything yet I was going to let you do the tear 00:22:47.600 --> 00:22:54.960 I'll do the tearing David's going to do the best here this will be it he's going 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:58.840 to factor in Labs me and his own thoughts and we're GNA have our tier 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:02.960 list for all these controllers because it's very clear looking at the results 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:08.120 that just because you didn't make it to the podium doesn't mean you're a bad 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:09.520 controller like look at the dirol 3 okay 00:23:08.120 --> 00:23:12.840 it went up against a really tough competitor in the first round but if 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