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recently we took a look at the best selling controllers on Amazon but thing

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is being popular doesn't necessarily mean something is good and in the

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comments you guys bombarded us with all of your favorite controllers that we

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missed but guys there are like 20 controllers here how can we possibly

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decide which one is the best by doing

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something we have never done before a concept we're calling the ultimate

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single elimination knockout bracket tier list Showdown we've got options ranging

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from $25 all the way to $200 and guys if you think that more

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money means more better you are in for some big surprises so let's get into it

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and see who's going to be the Undisputed intercontinental champion of controllers

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with a quick high-end controller Showdown for these last two spots but

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don't worry guys even though we're starting on the pricee side half of the

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really great controllers that we're looking at are $50 or less not these

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ones though our first cage match is between two heavy weights and in the

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case of the fly Digi Apex 4 I mean that

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very very literally at 329 G this is the heaviest controller in

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our Showdown and that's in part because it's the most featur rich it has a

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removable face plate that covers tension controller for the analog sticks a large

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battery to power the onboard OLED screen a gyroscope for gyroscopic aiming and

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adaptive triggers that through software can control their stopping point this is

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the top offering from fly Digi a name that you're going to be hearing a lot

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today up against it is the Turtle Beach stealth Ultra which has many of the same

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features as the Apex 4 trading hall effect adaptive triggers for real

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trigger stops and even adding a headphone jack as well as an included

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dock however it's today's lowest rated

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Gamepad with the common complaint being regular disconnections H it's kind of a

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key feature Turtle Beach oh dude this is gorgeous oh it's smooth it's like I can

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actually control what the crap I'm doing oh did you adjust the the tension on the

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stakes yeah they are at maximum it's I

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like it feels good I agree yeah I'm going to try the other one it's the one

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that has the most alternative shape Weir uh yeah it's uh not a plus in my humble

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opinion uh oh my God these sticks feel so cheap Now by

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comparison what's the price difference between these two 160 and 200 what this

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is the more expensive that's the more expensive one oh I mean okay well this is easy I'm sorry but you're out next up

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the Wolverine V3 Pro is the noons top-of-the-line Esports offering from

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Razer it's one of the most premium feeling controllers that we're looking

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at but you need to like back paddles these are right under where your fingers

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rest and you will want to disable them in software if you're not used to them

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to avoid pressing them accidentally constantly now I'm not much of a paddle

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guy but I will say that these are contoured really nicely for your fingers

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and feel really good cuz they used actual Mouse micro switches I could see

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this competitor going pretty far as long as it doesn't suddenly die boom razor

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burst roasted wow what the

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one of today's boldest designs with

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lots of textures and pieces of plastic in strange places is the PDP victrix Pro

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BFG it comes with a ton of extras like this module to replace the right analog

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stick and face buttons with six buttons perfect for fighting games you can also

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buy optional hall effect modules which we did and rolled into our cost one

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awkward thing though when we tested the circularity of the hall effect modules

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compared to the ones that came with it they were actually worse than the

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original potentiometer based sticks it also has trigger stops although the

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toggle for them is needlessly kind of

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finicky with that said I like having the granularity not to mention the super

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grippy spot for my Palms as a bit of a sweaty boy I'm going to give it to the

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vitrix pro now for the main bracket when you pick up the gamer Nova light it's

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not going to surprise you to find out that it is the cheapest controller in

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our Showdown that doesn't mean it feels bad in fact I'd say it feels better than

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the more expensive Logitech controllers that we looked at last time and it even

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has some more premium features including hall effect sticks but while the

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triggers are a similar shape to the Dual Senses they feel kind of flimsy and

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Light by comparison though at this kind of price H it's pretty easy to justify

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moving on our pick from the last video doesn't need much introduction it offers

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up hall effect sticks and triggers and has an included 2.4 GHz dongle in a very

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solid $30 package but the last time it

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only had to stand out against the popular kids how will our reigning

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Champion hold up against these much stronger audience favorites I think both

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of them are very similar when it comes to the quality of the face buttons and

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the weight of the joy sticks and I am not a fan of the way the 8bit dough

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brings my elbows in tighter compared to the game sir which gives me a bit of a

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wider stance what if I told you the input latency was four times better on

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the 8bit

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D on a wire is the gam ster any good

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quite good it is 6 milliseconds on overwire which is well within the Sweet

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Spot all things considered the Gamester puts up a really good fight and if this

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is what a little brother controller felt like when I was a kid I would have been

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thrilled but for just $5 more the ultimate 2C has much better latency over

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Wireless which makes it kind of a no-brainer in the year 2025 next up is

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the most affordable offering from easz SMX a company that is well known in the

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controller community and seemingly nowhere else this one definitely feels

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its price it's a little kind of bulbous almost like a Fisher Price controller

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and the buttons are kind of mushy with what might be the worst d-pad in our

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Roundup up against it is the rematch glow from PDP who makes some of the most

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popular cheap controllers on the market and has been doing so for quite some

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time this may be the least featured controller of the day which makes its

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higher price a little puzzling that is

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until you turn out the light that is a pretty neat gimmick but not enough to

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stand out against even a weak competitor I think for most folks who want a

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glowing controller they'd be better off just picking up a glow circuit skin from dbrand and putting it on an Xbox

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controller this one's a Puzzler it's a GameStop model so you would just assume

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it's awful but it can be customized with these cute little accessories it comes

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in at a reasonable mid-range price and is rated almost 4.7 Stars by oh wait

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only three gamers also the fact that the base kit doesn't come with everything

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you need is definitely confusing and good Heavens is this ever the cheapest

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feeling plastic that I have ever felt on the face plate of a controller like what

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were they thinking cheap feeling up against it is our other wired controller

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on the list this is a solid allrounder at a fair price the gamster G7 SE and H

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have swappable face plates lockable rear buttons and kind of configurable hair

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triggers although it's done by moving the actuation point in software rather

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than having a physical stopper so not sure if that fully counts there are a

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couple of differences between the two and for me I think I'll take the rumble

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motor the extra grippiness and in general it feels so much nicer in the

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hand compared to the candy con that I just there's no question sports betting

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apps ly give the fly Digi direwolf one

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of the strongest odds to walk away the Victor today with excellent performance

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for the price and a lot of love for the triggers ooh they do feel nice not to

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mention the build quality and reliability I have very high hopes for

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this one there's no fruy extras just the basics that matter and even a somewhat

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functional d-pad it's still on a circular pad which I don't personally

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prefer but it's got a reasonably good tactile feel I don't love the rumble

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motor really but if I had game sound on

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it wouldn't be bothering me oh yeah the sound it's the sound and I have no such

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issue with what could be a potential Dark Horse in our race here the Nixie

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Master P1 has a premium feel with solid

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Comfort tactile buttons toggleable hair triggers and RGB lighting now it's

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unimpressive 200 HZ pulling rate may hurt it especially in games where

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latency is everything but I don't know

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maybe I'm not that Discerning the rumble feel feels a lot better David I don't

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know it seems like you were leaning toward the fly Digi

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but it's a nice Rumble definitely prefer

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the shoulder on the master P1 oh no I think I prefer the shoulder on the dir

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Wolf the triggers are way better on the master P1 though those are nice juicy

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feeling triggers it's going to be the master P1 for me oh it's an upset and

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the fans are upset does everyone love the fly Digi it's a very popular

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controller but this is a new controller so hey maybe we're offering a good

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alternative I like it this is a this is a nice comp editor next up is our first

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first party controller an Xbox Elite no

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wait if we look a little closer we can see huh not to mention feel the

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difference for one thing the easz SMX X10 has a magnetic face plate and handle

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plates ooh that's kind of cool it also

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has clicky mechanical style face buttons that I have to say it's kind of

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surprising how many controllers are switching over to Mechanical buttons now

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it's not what I'm used to but I can also see why people like it overall it feels

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almost premium and extremely natural in

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the hand if you're used to a first-party Xbox controller going up against it is

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the power a Ops V1 power a is one of the

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few brands that we're looking at that has serious penetration into big retail

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chains and has a long history of making serviceable third-party controllers

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surprisingly the lab's team was quite impressed with the performance of this

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fortnite themed banana with buttons it managed the lowest input latency over

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both a wire and with its wireless dongle as well as good circularity on the

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sticks I got to say I was not expecting

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a power a device to come in this strong

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it's got lockable triggers two stage lockable

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triggers yes and four rear paddles

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compared to just the two it does not feel as premium in the hand but I still

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think I have to give it the edge for the extra functionality next up we've got

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the G5 Pro a very popular controller with pretty positive reviews sticks feel

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pretty normal the triggers are a little bit on the light side maybe for some

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people and oh those are so bad these

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bumpers may be the worst that we've seen so far face buttons feel okay they're a

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micro switch style face button and it has a removable face plate which is cool

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but might not make up for some of the concerns that people have raised over

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build quality going up against it is a somewhat famili face we have favorably

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covered the predecessor to the King Kong 3 because of its inclusion of hall

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effect Hardware before it was all the AG and also its easy repairability it's a

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solid controller at a reasonable price but some software bugs and uneven

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trigger travel have turned some people off and also shockingly we found that

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its 2.4 GHz dongle had the highest latency out of anything that the Labs

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tested even higher than this same controller over blue Bluetooth that's

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embarrassing there also just isn't really anything to make it stand out

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they've got their modular stuff where you can put the paddles on or take them

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off which is really nice yeah I think I got to put the King Kong 3 Pro through

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to the next round not yet no you don't there's a bonus round the easz SMX X20

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arrived uh after we had seated our tournament so you need to compare the

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King Kong to the SMX 20 ooh this actually feels pretty good this is two

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steps up from the x10 adding trigger locks o which actually feel really nice

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not to mention are really quick to toggle the modes on I actually really

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like the ergonomics of that o the shoulder the shoulders are nice too it's

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got the paddles already so I don't have to put modular paddles on it but they're

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totally out of the way which is nice this is cheaper than the King Kong Pro

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10 bucks than the pro yeah ooh likey oh see you later buddy we

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might have a new front runner by the sounds of it this is the fly Digi Vader

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4 it's step up from their dir will free

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and it feels like an Xbox controller but with even more extras oh adjustable

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stick tension ooh this is not a cheap

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controller but adjustable stick tension I am liking that a lot on the

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controllers I've seen it on so far and this one has a way better interface for

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it it's just this dial around the stick what's it going up against though oh

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here's a familiar name to Xbox Gamers Turtle Beach with the stealth pivot and

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this has got kind of a neat gimmick there's these locks on the back okay so

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I've unlocked them now and when they're unlocked you take the sticks pop them in

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and whoa you can switch them to a

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dedicated fight mode okay that's pretty

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cool but to fit all that pivoting in them there are some compromises on the

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ergonomics and I have real doubts about the reliability of the sticks long term

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when you're kind of tucking them in over and over again otherwise it actually

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feels like a pretty nice controller even if it's a bit Duke like in its profile

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of course another major drawback for this strange little fell is the price it

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costs about as much as buying a regular controller and a fight

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controller I don't think I can give it the win but not because it's a bad idea

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or because it's not well executed it actually seems like a sick controller if

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you are the right customer for this who plays a lot of fighting games and I'm

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not okay this d-pad is literally ass so

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that's something using all the value controllers and then coming back to

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these really expensive

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ones they're having a hard time justifying their price all right what

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about the Apex 4 oh there's no question okay Apex wow

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that quick he yeah it just feels so much better it's freaking heavy which I don't

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love but the adjustable tension on the sticks man that feels so good that means

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we have a fly Digi face off in the next round and I'm very excited about that no

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no fly Digi okay we're into round two

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man I'm not going to lie it seems like the x05 got a bit of a free ride to the

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second round I don't think this is as good as pretty much anything else in the

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second round here we've switched up games so now it's going to come a lot

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more down to stick quality and precision not that I'm necessarily the best person

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to judge stick precision but hey take it for what it is it's worth noting that we

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switched to a wire on this one because we broke the dongle that is giving a bit

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of a latency Advantage compared to running wirelessly but it shouldn't be

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enough to give it the edge especially cuz I don't think it's going to win

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apido Ultimate 2C here we go I still don't like the stance of this one feel

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like I could get used to it but definitely not my favorite it feels way

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more quality when you consider that it's the same price 30 bucks that is the

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special edition one which is 10 bucks more but it's the same performance wise

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it just looks I like the d-pad a lot better on this one oh man I really

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really do not prefer the shape of this every time I pick it up I'm like oh that

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I'm taking the easy SMX x05 woo big

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upset I didn't think I was going to pick this either it feels so cheap but I just

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the control is better I think if I was getting an overall controller I would

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pick this but if I'm playing Shooters I actually would pick that one over this

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one the gamer G7 H is going to have to do something pretty special to Come Away

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with the win here it's tough to be a wired controller in a wireless

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controller's World paddles aren't getting in my way not pressing them by

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accident but they're there in case I need to bind them Nixie Master P1 our

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Dark Horse indeed this Rumble is truly not very good no I can't bring a wired

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controller forward David you can oh

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gosh I'd rather game on the game sir this is one of the most popular ones out

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there so some people out there are very happy that's the thing about a knockout

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style playoff only one person can be happy and 15 people are going to be

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upset power a Ops V1 versus easy SMX X20

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oh actually feels really good so far how was the circularity of this one again it

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was good it was like in the good Zone it wasn't the best but it was good so the

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circularity of the joysticks that we've been talking about is how well the input

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matches the circle that you draw with it if it's oval that's bad it means that

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depending on whether you're going up and down or left and right it can have a

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different amount of input which which is yeah obviously undesirable okay easy as

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oh this is stiff competition though I really like this one it had to beat two

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contenders to get here oh I really like the position of the paddles on this one

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in that I can reach them really easily but I can also completely ignore them if

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I don't want to use them I wish we were doing a tier list now instead of a

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bracketed playoff actually we're going to at the end oh okay that's good

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because there's a lot of really really great controllers that just weren't the

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best controller you know mhm M mhm I got

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to take the easyy SMX more like easy Cruising Into the semis

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woo this one's going to be a heartbreaker for fly Digi fans no matter

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which way it goes remember that one is $80 and one is

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$160 oo but they both have the adjustable tension on the analog sticks

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Apex 4 it's like yeah I play on Xbox but

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not because I couldn't afford a top of the lion PC cuz like I'm holding this

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controller like it feels so good it's kind of inconvenient that their more

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premium controller though is the one that has the less convenient mechanism

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for adjusting the sticks just to be clear am I supposed to pick the better

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controller or the one that I think is makes more sense for you to buy I think

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it's what you like what you would spend your money on if I got them all for free

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I take this one no question I think that's the winner then yeah okay I think

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it's a winner okay semis how the hell is

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this thing still in the running it doesn't seem right I'm hyped if there's

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another Budget King that's sick how much is it 30 bucks this is 30 bucks $30 it's

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30 bucks David what's to hate you know I

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mean people find ways to hate things but like oh it's a great controller for the

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price face button responsiveness is definitely the downside to the easy SMX

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if I'm playing only shooter games and I don't really need my face buttons that

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much great they're not as good as the gamster though I got to give it to the

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gamer woo let's give the easy SMX X20 a

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chance here good face buttons this thing so good yeah it's

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really

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nice oh this d-pad is just such a sorry

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excuse for a d-pad on an otherwise like outstanding controller oh what a oh what

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a shame okay let's try d-pad here oh I

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like this one this is a very usable d-pad another Factor 160 versus 60

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literal $100 price difference oh this one's better it's better it's better it

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wins fly Digi has been eliminated from

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this competition I really really like this controller like I like it a lot if

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you love The Apex 4 and you spent a bunch of money on it you've got a great

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controller and you should love it just don't use the

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d-pad we go into Forza now we decide third place oh fly Digi Apex 4 I like

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this thing I still really like it it is

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great meanwhile up against a $30

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controller that also made it this deep it's funny

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how there can be a difference between a light trigger and a cheap feeling

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trigger both of these controllers have excellent granularity on the throttle

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like I can make a small adjustment without making a mistake but one just

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feels better a killer controller for 30 bucks but it's not as good as the Apex 4

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and the challenge is which one's the best at each tier I still think this is

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going to be in like s tier value like

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honorable mention value King easy X

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Gamer's Choice indeed okay now it's time

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to find the king Good Vibration I actually forgot about that the X20 has a

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nice Rumble motor really nice feeling trigger good analog sticks rubberized

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tops I remember why I like this one so much got the paddles they're not in the

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way got the locks gamer what the hell

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are you even doing here you're a company that we mocked in our early budget

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peripheral roundups being like ha Gam

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sir but sir you game I do not like the

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triggers as much I do not prefer the rumble motor trigger's pretty good the

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sticks are just perfect maybe they're not perfect I'm sure the lab's results

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are going to show that they're not perfect nothing's perfect but they're

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good enough and it's not just the circularity of them the curve is right

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they feel good but I got to give it to the easy SX it's almost the same price

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and you don't need a wire I wish had a confetti cannon we we have it the winner the easy

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SMX X20 you've got to tell me now what was your king the Vader 4 I think it

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feels almost as good as the Apex or's like yeah it's not quite as premium but

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I didn't care for that stuff and the fact that the stick control was under

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the face plate pissed me off I thought that was such a stupid design choice so

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overall value at $80 Vader 4 easy winner

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Labs picked the ultimate 2C really for a

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mix of value good sticks good input latency and it's just a great great all

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round controller I didn't like the ergonomics that's something that I can't

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argue with I can't believe that not a single controller on or near the podium

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was from a brand that I really think of as a gaming brand no no razor no Turtle

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Beach what you haven't teered anything yet I was going to let you do the tear

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I'll do the tearing David's going to do the best here this will be it he's going

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to factor in Labs me and his own thoughts and we're GNA have our tier

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list for all these controllers because it's very clear looking at the results

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that just because you didn't make it to the podium doesn't mean you're a bad

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controller like look at the dirol 3 okay

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it went up against a really tough competitor in the first round but if it

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had happened to be seated against the candy con and then gone up against the

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ultimate 2C it could have easily made semi oh for sure consult the tier list

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before actually making a purchase but also I think we can probably agree that

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the X20 is just fantastic controller

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freaking outstanding both in terms of value and in terms of overall

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performance and features yep yeah this compared to an Xbox or

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