WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.560 now if i've ever seen a talk link this is it oh are you are you okay uh it's just 00:00:05.359 --> 00:00:10.160 been a really long couple of years you're meditating uh-huh you're messing 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:14.000 with you call it meditating on what brought you to this point yeah 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:20.240 it has been a crazy couple weeks we've got the ryzen launch the Radeon launch 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:24.800 uh NVIDIA super launch how first of all how are you doing are 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.800 you alive still 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:32.640 oh no uh yeah yeah i'm alive i mean i i've done um oh 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:38.160 geez i mean i worked i haven't stopped working like there's i just have not had 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:43.680 a weekend i haven't had a break it's just been one thing after the other geez 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:47.120 i don't envy you yeah so if you guys don't know Anthony's here you hosted 00:00:45.360 --> 00:00:52.079 your first tech link uh recently that was cool yeah and now you're you're here 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:56.000 on talk link because you know all the stuff about the ryzen and Radeon and 00:00:54.239 --> 00:00:59.520 everything well i mean i've probably forgotten most of it and like just the 00:00:57.760 --> 00:01:03.199 haze of everything that's happened over the past couple of weeks but well let's 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:07.920 refresh your memory so yeah let me let me go over quickly what has happened so 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:11.520 the past few weeks has been crazy uh AMD 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:14.960 announced the ryzen 3000 and Radeon 5000 00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:17.119 uh gpus uh on june 10th and they set the 00:01:14.960 --> 00:01:20.799 launch for july 7th then NVIDIA came out and was like hey we 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:25.119 got a little thing and they teased the super we didn't know it was gpus at that time 00:01:23.360 --> 00:01:29.200 but we were like oh it's probably gpus they teased them on may 23rd 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:34.799 then we had leaks on leaks on leaks so many leaks and then NVIDIA finally 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:37.680 launched the super series on july 2nd 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:43.119 and that caused AMD to announce a price change yup to their cards before they 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:46.960 launched on july 7th and now 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:49.840 that has really like like so many changes in a short amount of time set 00:01:48.720 --> 00:01:55.759 the stage for a market that is now very interesting oh 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.280 yeah absolutely like Intel's entire product lineup is basically obsolete at 00:01:57.600 --> 00:02:02.399 this point whoa you heard it here first just kidding you 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:08.160 heard it online detectives yeah basically but maybe next time 00:02:05.759 --> 00:02:13.040 so verizon let's talk about ryzen first okay uh there was a obscene amount of 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:18.400 hype for these processors before they came out i mean usually there are for 00:02:15.440 --> 00:02:21.360 AMD processors like um like ryzen first gen and second gen people were like oh 00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:25.120 they're gonna be so much better than Intel right and you know usually you got 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:29.120 to kind of temper your expectations a little bit kind of right claw it back 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:32.560 it's going to be fine but it's not going to be that good yeah 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:38.239 but uh you know this time around they kind of sort of were on the closer end 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:42.640 of that good yeah like they didn't beat Intel everywhere but right they beat 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:46.480 Intel hard in the places they did yeah this i think this launch is like one of 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:50.720 the few examples of like hype being set up for an upcoming 00:02:48.720 --> 00:02:54.560 product and then the product launching and it actually 00:02:52.239 --> 00:02:59.760 kind of living up to it yeah yeah i was i was i just watched um the 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:03.599 your review uh on you know double speed because i was 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.680 trying to prepare but like i was surprised 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:10.159 uh well and you were sitting right next to me when you're testing all the stuff and 00:03:08.640 --> 00:03:13.519 i was like asking you how it's going as you were testing i was like yeah 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:16.959 multi-threading's great but how's single core you're like single chord 00:03:15.519 --> 00:03:21.680 yeah great too yeah it's all looking pretty great the only thing is 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:24.239 uh we did notice the issue with the Windows scheduler 00:03:23.200 --> 00:03:29.519 so in some games not all of them i've tested that recently 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:33.280 some games get better performance if you set them 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:37.200 all to one die right so one ccd as they're calling them 00:03:35.920 --> 00:03:40.959 um this was kind of a thing back when ryzen 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:45.760 first launched as well where like it would cross ccx's which is like 00:03:43.519 --> 00:03:48.000 it's like modular clusters yeah 00:03:46.799 --> 00:03:52.720 so in this case going across dies actually 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:56.799 causes even more of a delay and um you want to minimize that as much 00:03:54.879 --> 00:04:01.519 as possible for something like a game that requires like super high reaction 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:05.599 time right for the processor and is this a result of AMD's chiplets design a 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:11.439 little bit because they're like kind of taking these modules and gluing them together yeah and it's it's not actually 00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:15.519 a bad thing to do and i think Intel is actually doing it as well right soon 00:04:13.760 --> 00:04:21.120 but the major issue with it is that um right now 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:24.479 Windows doesn't know what to do with it i don't know about Linux performance yet 00:04:22.880 --> 00:04:29.840 i haven't looked at the furonics reviews or anything like that 00:04:25.919 --> 00:04:29.840 um because i haven't had time 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:36.880 you will but um yeah like it looks like Windows is 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:40.639 basically the bottleneck here okay so is that a situation where we 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:44.320 might see more performance kind of being able to 00:04:42.320 --> 00:04:49.680 be squeezed out of them down the line with driver updates and i think so okay 00:04:47.280 --> 00:04:53.440 so like with a new chipset driver um and maybe some updates from microsoft 00:04:51.840 --> 00:04:57.520 um and you know a little bit of optimization from game developers too 00:04:55.440 --> 00:05:01.520 right uh i think we should see quite a bit more performance coming out of them 00:04:59.520 --> 00:05:06.400 in the coming uh few months well that's sweet yeah up the hype even more 00:05:04.400 --> 00:05:10.960 because people people i don't know did you see this people lined up yeah to buy 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:15.039 these processors i think at the micro center and uh there were some images on 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:18.120 an article i read the micro center and like tokyo in the uh 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.759 uh akihabara i don't know how to say that i 00:05:20.400 --> 00:05:25.800 believe they call it they just call it akihabara what is it 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:33.919 that's the one they were lining up yeah just call it akita that's what they do 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:38.479 akiba okay sorry i'm not japanese so despite all the hype though there were a 00:05:35.440 --> 00:05:40.880 couple issues uh that uh with the with 00:05:38.479 --> 00:05:45.680 the ryzen launch yeah now one of those was 00:05:41.840 --> 00:05:46.880 BIOS update shenanigans oh yeah so you i 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:53.759 remember you saying when you were writing the review you were like i think i think i was writing a script 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:55.919 of my own and i just heard you go like 00:05:53.759 --> 00:06:00.720 what yeah um 00:05:57.440 --> 00:06:02.560 in our case we got an email from ASUS 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:07.199 basically saying hey there's a bug we fixed it you should update 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:09.600 and i'm like oh what was the bug and they're like oh it wasn't boosting 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:14.560 properly and i'm like oh 00:06:11.919 --> 00:06:17.280 so all my numbers yeah i got up to this point yeah so i had to throw out 00:06:15.919 --> 00:06:24.160 everything that i had done up to that point big oof yeah and uh long story short i had to 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:28.000 come in over the weekend which is why i've had this like i've been i've been 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:32.080 doing like late days in the past couple weeks but like the weekend was just a 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.800 total wash you're a true champion Anthony i don't know about that the 00:06:33.840 --> 00:06:39.280 people are outside screaming your name 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:43.120 they want you to sign all manner of body parts oh it's kind of weird yeah to be 00:06:41.919 --> 00:06:48.960 honest toenails what like toenails toenails yeah 00:06:46.880 --> 00:06:53.360 whatever works so you were saying that some outlets didn't quite get the memo 00:06:51.440 --> 00:06:57.440 before they published their reviews so there might be some kind of some skewed 00:06:55.039 --> 00:07:01.360 numbers on like the low and high side from what i understand um 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:06.880 yeah i think there were some outlets that didn't get the memo i think there uh might have been one or two vendors 00:07:05.280 --> 00:07:10.400 who were like trying to get it out but they couldn't in time right like i don't 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:13.840 know how many people were able to actually take ASUS's BIOS update on 00:07:12.479 --> 00:07:19.120 friday afternoon and then just retest everything in time for sunday 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:21.680 um that was a big ask and i think that a lot of people put in a lot of extra time 00:07:20.880 --> 00:07:26.240 right so as time goes on we might see some 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:29.360 updated numbers from outlets or 00:07:27.599 --> 00:07:32.880 i think it'll be worth revisiting in a couple of months when everything has had 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:38.319 a chance to mature and we know more about what the platform is 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:44.720 capable of on a broader scale now the other thing was 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:46.479 you linked me to a video by der der 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:50.319 bauer i believe it's dear bauer i never know how to say his name i think it just 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:54.639 means the fighter it's not durator no well i mean that is what it says that is 00:07:52.080 --> 00:08:00.560 what it is yeah yeah but that's not right no uh so der bauer found that um 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:03.840 xfr so normally in the previous generations of verizon AMD has kind of 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:07.680 listed their base clocks and their boost clocks and then they have the xfr 00:08:05.840 --> 00:08:12.800 frequencies yeah that are kind of above and beyond where it like auto overclocks 00:08:09.440 --> 00:08:13.599 itself sort of and he found that AMD 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:21.599 kind of changed the way that they're listing that yeah so AMD is uh using 00:08:19.280 --> 00:08:24.800 precision boost overdrive by default now which is what they introduced with 00:08:22.960 --> 00:08:28.080 threadripper 2. that's basically an automatic 00:08:26.080 --> 00:08:32.560 overclocking feature uh the only problem is that they're 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:35.919 listing the maximum frequency you can get out of that 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:39.919 not what the actual like boost clock you can expect should be right so a lot of 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:44.159 people have been seeing boost clocks that are much lower than what's printed 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:47.360 on the box and a lot of people are getting confused by that it's like well 00:08:45.839 --> 00:08:51.600 maybe there's an update that'll fix it but no probably not it's down to the 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:55.360 silicon lottery whether your chip is capable of it 00:08:53.680 --> 00:08:58.959 whether your motherboard is capable of it whether your cooler is capable of it 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:02.160 right the stock cooler probably isn't 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:06.560 so so if you're not a gambling person 00:09:04.800 --> 00:09:09.760 it's it's not good news yeah you might have to go to silicon 00:09:07.920 --> 00:09:14.080 lottery you're forced into the casino whether you want to or not yeah play the 00:09:11.760 --> 00:09:18.000 chips you're dealt all right let's bring this back so the 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:22.080 moral of the story is we've talked some about about some of the issues we talked 00:09:19.680 --> 00:09:26.880 about the hype verizon but the the moral of the story is basically that like 00:09:24.160 --> 00:09:30.160 it did surprise people who thought that AMD was going to be this this launch was 00:09:28.800 --> 00:09:34.160 going to be another example of okay it's really great 00:09:31.920 --> 00:09:39.519 multi-threaded but it still you know doesn't quite take it in single core 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:41.600 yeah it doesn't beat Intel in every game 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:45.760 but like there's some surprising examples of it doing just that yeah and 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:50.320 it's close enough in all the other examples that like 00:09:47.760 --> 00:09:55.760 you can give up the 5 or 10 FPS that you know you might lose right going to ryzen 00:09:52.640 --> 00:09:58.640 and then you'd gain so many more um 00:09:55.760 --> 00:10:03.440 like use cases yeah like you can like the blender renders the uh 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:07.040 handbrake performance like for video editors for content creators it's just 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:10.640 it's so much so much more to offer and you save money 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:14.800 yeah look we're not being paid by NVIDIA or 00:10:13.040 --> 00:10:20.160 AMD guys well we are being paid by NVIDIA but not by 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:21.760 AMD i'm i'm just kidding that was a joke 00:10:20.160 --> 00:10:24.880 yeah people actually think we are paid by NVIDIA i'm pretty sure we're not well 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:29.519 to prove we're not paid by video maybe we should talk about radion now wow 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:34.079 i'm learning about segways not from Linus though i just would have 00:10:31.040 --> 00:10:36.480 made one way cheesier so Radeon it's not 00:10:34.079 --> 00:10:42.240 there wasn't nearly as much hype for these rx 5000 series as ryzen but it 00:10:40.079 --> 00:10:48.320 was kind of i mean it was definitely an exciting kind of uh 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:50.880 teta tet in terms of 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:55.120 the radio the navi cards being announced then NVIDIA saying oh we got super cards 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:58.480 uh that's supposed to be you know we got you we you're in the corner now yeah and 00:10:56.959 --> 00:11:04.880 then AMD's like guess what price drop 00:11:01.760 --> 00:11:06.959 and then that actually positioned the rx 00:11:04.880 --> 00:11:12.240 5000 series quite uh well in terms against the the super 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:16.000 serial not the super series but all of the rtx series well i would say 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:20.880 the super suit yeah all the rtx series but especially the supers um 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:24.640 maybe not the 2080. they don't have a response for that yes 00:11:22.959 --> 00:11:29.200 uh classic well they have kind of like some decent 00:11:26.959 --> 00:11:32.240 cards in a narrow range and then beyond that 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:35.600 uh it's a let's guess it's kind of 00:11:33.920 --> 00:11:39.519 interesting how that went down though because the way AMD designed their new 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:45.279 gpus it actually kind of gets rid of their uh you've ever heard of fine wine 00:11:42.800 --> 00:11:48.079 what uh people refer to as AMD's drivers causing better performance over time 00:11:46.800 --> 00:11:51.600 right i've heard of it i don't understand it but you do so 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:55.839 a little bit uh i don't know if i know all of it but 00:11:53.519 --> 00:12:00.720 uh the longer the short of it is they they reduce the performance impact 00:11:58.079 --> 00:12:02.320 that an unoptimized game would have okay so 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:08.560 from this point forward the fine wine improvements are going to 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:13.440 be probably more incremental but very small improvements not as not as big 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.680 yeah not as big but at the same time you're getting more performance out of 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:20.560 the gate and i don't think NVIDIA was really 00:12:17.680 --> 00:12:24.399 expecting that what was NVIDIA expecting because it seems like they they launched 00:12:22.880 --> 00:12:29.200 you know um originally the 5700 was targeted at the 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:35.680 2016 and i guess it still is but and the 5700 xt was targeted at the 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:38.079 2070. right but now with the price drops 00:12:35.680 --> 00:12:42.320 the 5700 is still targeted at the 2060 but the 5700 xt is now targeted at the 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:47.120 2060 super right so what were they expecting in 00:12:45.040 --> 00:12:50.800 terms of i guess were they did they not see the price drop coming maybe they 00:12:48.880 --> 00:12:55.200 thought that AMD didn't have the the margin for it but i mean there's been a 00:12:52.800 --> 00:12:58.800 couple of uh conspiracy theories like they're price fixing and this was just 00:12:56.880 --> 00:13:03.680 all just for show um i'm not sure about that it kind of 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:08.320 doesn't seem like something that AMD and NVIDIA 00:13:05.839 --> 00:13:11.839 willing to do together yeah they they don't really like each 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:16.240 other that much in the GPU division i mean they work fine between GPU and CPU 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:21.680 right that's like the Radeon technology group is a separate thing jensen and sue 00:13:19.040 --> 00:13:24.480 have some bad some bad blood yeah even though literally 00:13:22.959 --> 00:13:29.920 yeah literally because they're related yeah but he he's not her uncle we should 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:34.480 clear that like uh yeah it's like half they're like it's 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:38.560 like a cousin kind of situation it's like a third cousin removed kind of 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:41.839 situation yeah it's kind of weird but do your research 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:46.240 Linus Linus so so the moral of the story for 00:13:44.079 --> 00:13:50.720 these guys is that they actually when you take price into 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:54.320 account they are they perform pretty well across the board compared to their 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:58.639 direct NVIDIA competitors oh yeah like they actually more or less crush them um 00:13:57.040 --> 00:14:02.079 at least the ones that they're positioned against 00:14:00.160 --> 00:14:09.199 um although they do trade blows in productivity like i said um if you're 00:14:05.760 --> 00:14:11.440 uh into um i can't visualize now which 00:14:09.199 --> 00:14:15.519 ones were the ones that NVIDIA won but i do know that uh check out the LTT review 00:14:13.680 --> 00:14:19.120 for like the specifics yeah but the margins are pretty big so depending on 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:24.560 what your workload is you'd want to choose one over the other 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:27.360 right you know really if you're a gamer 00:14:24.560 --> 00:14:30.720 then the 5700 series looks pretty good now the only thing to 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:34.480 take into account there i guess is if you want rtx 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:39.040 yeah AMD doesn't really have the same kind of like extra features they have 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:42.240 this anti-lag thing yeah i haven't been able to test that yet because we don't 00:14:40.800 --> 00:14:47.519 have the high speed camera here yet right um but 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:52.000 AMD has their own features mostly they're to do with managing the cards 00:14:49.760 --> 00:14:55.440 cooling and managing lag that kind of thing because they do get very hot and 00:14:54.079 --> 00:15:00.800 they do quite hot i remember i think the what 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:03.120 what the 5700 xt was at like 95. 00:15:00.800 --> 00:15:07.760 oh yeah and it shut down it shut down in a menu yeah just sitting in the menu 00:15:06.160 --> 00:15:12.720 that's not good looks like the power target is all messed up um i reported 00:15:10.240 --> 00:15:16.160 this to AMD they managed to reproduce it they said that they didn't get quite the 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:21.199 temperatures that i did but i don't know that's okay they didn't say what temperatures 00:15:19.040 --> 00:15:26.240 they got right but the fact that they could reproduce the bug means that it 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:31.199 seems like it's a firmware issue or like a driver issue 00:15:27.839 --> 00:15:33.199 uh so um you can expect probably a 00:15:31.199 --> 00:15:38.399 little bit less performance if that's the case if they need to drop 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:40.639 the target down gotcha um 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:45.760 but it's still pretty good so basically in both the Radeon and the 00:15:43.760 --> 00:15:50.560 ryzen realms uh pretty good the story's pretty good 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:54.959 it's pretty good yeah which i mean it's like that's wasn't the case for the radion 7 00:15:53.040 --> 00:15:59.839 launch oh no absolutely not great on 7 launch and we were all like uh what are 00:15:57.199 --> 00:16:03.519 you doing AMD yeah like they got a card that competes with 2080 in terms of 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:09.920 price and it's like well yeah but the 2080 also has all these other features 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.360 and it basically isn't a nuclear reactor 00:16:09.920 --> 00:16:16.959 um yeah so you don't want right 00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:19.519 which is why you shouldn't buy the um 00:16:16.959 --> 00:16:23.199 the reference design of the 5700 xt in my opinion okay that cooler is not 00:16:21.680 --> 00:16:26.240 adequate for what they want to do with it right and i think that if you get a 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:30.880 uh partner board so something with a 00:16:29.040 --> 00:16:33.279 beefier cooler on it uh maybe with a little bit of an 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:37.680 overclock that would probably be ideal and are 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:41.199 those are those coming out in august or are they out now they're coming out 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:45.680 later i'm not sure exactly when off the top of my head okay so by the time the 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:50.320 add-in boards come out any you know hopefully AMD has already resolved some 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:52.880 of these issues with uh overheating and yeah that kind of thing 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:57.519 okay right on so to conclude 00:16:55.920 --> 00:17:02.240 is AMD now the king of 00:16:59.680 --> 00:17:05.280 the CPU and GPU hill if the if such a hill exists 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:11.280 well there are many hills and they all depend on your price point gotcha 00:17:07.520 --> 00:17:15.120 um the hill on which the ryzen 5 3600 00:17:11.280 --> 00:17:16.880 exists i believe AMD has nailed down 00:17:15.120 --> 00:17:21.600 because not only do they have the ryzen 5 3600 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:23.120 but they also have Radeon 5700 right 00:17:21.600 --> 00:17:27.839 around that price point that you'd want a couple with a CPU like that 00:17:25.600 --> 00:17:32.320 so i mean compared to the NVIDIA offerings unless you really want rtx or 00:17:29.760 --> 00:17:35.840 you really need that hardware uh x264 encoder or h264 encoder right 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:40.480 um there's no reason to go up NVIDIA there's no 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:44.320 reason NVIDIA please keep paying us even though 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:50.400 we're saying that we're not it's not a thing come on 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:53.440 so uh very exciting to be uh on team red 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:56.160 very exciting time mm-hmm yep 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:59.360 and uh kind of a you know wake up and 00:17:57.360 --> 00:18:03.039 think about your life kind of moment for team blue and team green 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:06.640 yeah i mean it must really suck to be a team blue engineer 00:18:04.320 --> 00:18:11.919 you've been spending so much time trying to get 10 nanometer to go 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:15.919 and yeah it's just fighting you at every step of the way and it's delayed you for 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:20.559 so long that AMD has been able to leap over 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:25.200 what you've been able to accomplish so far and there's no band-aid that can really 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:28.720 fix it without them just dropping the price 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:32.799 well there you have it folks it's a sad day for some people very 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:36.480 happy day for others just like every other day really yeah it's basically how 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:41.520 life works well that's another episode of talk 00:18:38.320 --> 00:18:43.280 linked and boy was it a gooden good good 00:18:41.520 --> 00:18:48.960 one you think so i yeah oh okay i don't know how this works 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:51.679 i don't know how it works either i we're all just kind of going by the seat of 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:56.720 our pants if you want if you want to subscribe that's something you could do if you 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:59.280 want to get this t-shirt you could do that also 00:18:57.840 --> 00:19:04.000 link's in the description we don't have sponsors for these videos yet oh 00:19:01.679 --> 00:19:06.960 um but uh love you so much and 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:11.039 do you love them oh absolutely that would be awkward if you say i love each 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:15.200 and every one of you except you all right 00:19:12.320 --> 00:19:15.200 see you later