1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,600 Why am I getting Apple ads on my PlayStation? 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Apple's advertising so many subscriptions, another free trial? 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,080 More ads for subscriptions? Don't I already pay enough? 4 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:20,920 Wait, how much do I pay? 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,600 Even my bank is trying to get me to subscribe? 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,960 Like seemingly all companies, Apple is participating in the cost that never ends. 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,280 Subscriptions to services. For some reason, they've never grabbed me. 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,360 At launch, Apple Arcade and TV Plus had laughably small lineups. 9 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Fitness Plus was limited to those few who own an Apple Watch, and Apple Music doesn't 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,720 have a cool year in review. However, they've been with us for a few years now, and so I'm curious if the value proposition 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:56,200 has changed. I mean, Apple services do offer a lot, so much so that you could probably cancel everything 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,200 you already have and save a considerable amount of money. 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,360 Which gives me an idea. Steven. 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,080 He's the new guy here at Mac Address. You have a lot of subscription services. 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,280 I do. How much do you spend a month on them? 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,120 Like easily over a hundred bucks. Perfect. 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Cancel them. You're only going to use Apple One for a whole week. 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,080 Me, Apple TV, only Apple Arcade, the whole thing. If I'm going to have to give something up, so are you. 19 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,960 So you're going to be doing this with me. Say goodbye to whoever you're watching. 20 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:32,520 Alright. Fine. One week, only Apple services. 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,840 One week of avoiding spoilers, not talking to my friends, staying off Twitter. 22 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,960 It's better be good, Apple. 23 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:48,000 Apple's not known for making great services, even though the Lord knows they've tried. 24 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 There was the much derided Moel me, and then before that there was the dot mac. 25 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,920 But that eventually evolved into iCloud. And following that success, Apple launched so many subscriptions that they needed to 26 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:03,000 make another one to include them all. 27 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Apple One. Available in three tiers, the high stand bundle gives you everything. 28 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:12,560 Two terabytes of iCloud and photo storage, TV Plus, Apple Music and Classical, which 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,440 is a thing apparently. Arcade, Fitness Plus and News Plus. 30 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,840 And you can share it all with up to five members of your family. 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Now you can of course get everything piecemeal from other companies. 32 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:32,400 Google One is $2 a month, Netflix, 20, Spotify, 16, Game Pass 10, Fitbit Premium 10 and Readly 33 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:40,760 412. But all this ends up costing a lot more, over twice as much in fact, $70 a month. 34 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,160 The question is then, are you giving up anything by going with Apple One? 35 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Hello sir. How was your week? Good. 36 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,760 How was yours? It felt like any other week was yours. 37 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Mine got better as it went on. I was annoyed at first. 38 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:02,720 I thought this was going to be a hassle. I thought this was going to be a huge effort of giving up everything else. 39 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:09,400 I did have to fight you for this. Yeah. Didn't end up being that much of a hassle. 40 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,720 I'm actually still pretty much just using Apple services. I kind of just got myself hooked now. 41 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,280 So yeah, it wasn't too bad. The service that got you hooked. 42 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Apple TV. See, the service that I've been using the most is Apple Music. 43 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:29,120 And I feel like of all the services, that's probably the most established and compelling. 44 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Now, to me, Apple Music's the easy choice. 45 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Yeah. Would you get it? I personally would love to get it, but there's one thing that I'm just like, no, I can't. 46 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,680 And that is it doesn't have anything comparable to Spotify Connect. 47 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,280 What I love about Spotify Connect is that, like, I'm somebody that very often will start 48 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,360 something from my laptop and then want to control it from my phone or vice versa. 49 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,000 You know, I have used Spotify and Spotify Connect, and there is a certain magic to that 50 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 that is surprising that Apple hasn't supported that. 51 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:09,120 I think for me, the thing I really like about Apple Music is I love that it's in loss list, 52 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,680 especially at the price tier it is, though it did go up in price a little bit recently. 53 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:21,120 I would easily pay that for the higher quality. If I wasn't giving up the connectivity, Apple Music in my opinion is probably the best value 54 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,280 music service because you get lossless at no additional cost. 55 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:33,280 Spatial audio just included with Apple Music. To the extent that I would say if I listen to a good spatial mix on Apple Music and then 56 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:38,920 listen to the stereo mix on Spotify, on Spotify, I feel like I'm getting an inferior version 57 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,920 of that song. Like I feel like I'm actually missing out. 58 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:50,440 And now you have the classical app. It's pretty good if you're into classical music, which I'm not, but like it's great 59 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,920 for someone that is. It is really great for someone who's into classical music. 60 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Basically what we're going to do is we're going to see what of these services you'd 61 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:03,120 subscribe to. You'd be willing to subscribe to with your own money just on its own. 62 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,040 So Apple Music, would you subscribe to Apple Music? I wouldn't hate it, but it's not my first choice. 63 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,520 So no, X. See, I would subscribe to it, but I have used Apple Music when I did the trial and I enjoyed 64 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:20,400 it. Yeah, it would definitely be like a very close second choice for me. 65 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:29,360 I'll give it that much. The next one, which has kept you engaged all week remarkably, is Apple TV Plus. 66 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Which I didn't expect. 67 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:38,240 So TV Plus, it's a lot cheaper than all these other services, but you're getting a lot 68 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,600 less. The big thing I found is that when you had just everything, like all these services 69 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,320 to choose from, you sit down and you're like, cool, what do I want to watch? 70 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,280 And I found that that would often lead to me just making very safe choices of I'm going 71 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:57,760 to choose something that's in a genre I know I like or from a director I know I like. 72 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,560 By being limited to Apple, it was like, okay, there's not as much content here. 73 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,400 I've watched the stuff that already really appealed to me. 74 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,280 Now I'm going to watch stuff that's maybe on my radar, but hasn't really grabbed my 75 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:15,640 interest enough to bother watching it. And so what I watched was Servant. 76 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,440 It was the first one I sat down to watch and within like three days I was done the first 77 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:25,720 season, like it just it hooked me to the point that when this challenge was over, I always 78 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,520 just kept coming back to Apple TV. I would like go play a game for an hour and I'm like, no, I need to watch more Servant 79 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,840 or I'd go on Disney Plus, watch a couple episodes is something I'm like, no, I need 80 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:38,320 to go watch more Servant. And there's a bunch of other shows that I still haven't watched. 81 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:44,280 There is so much content there that it would take me months to get through, even if I was 82 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:47,840 just subscribed to Apple TV and nothing else. 83 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:51,880 So I had a bit of a different experience kind of surfing through there. 84 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Like I think, you know, the big show that drew me to Apple TV Plus a couple of months ago 85 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,000 obviously was Severance, which everyone was talking about and it was a really great show. 86 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,440 And I actually watched it with friends using SharePlay. 87 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:09,200 This week I kind of find myself surfing through Apple TV Plus and I was struggling to find 88 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:16,200 a show that I wanted to watch. Don't get me wrong, there is some hot garbage on there as there is any service. 89 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:22,160 But I think if you're looking for like high quality shows and you're not super picky about 90 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,920 genre, I think there's enough there. 91 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Would you subscribe to Apple TV Plus? Already do, half for years will continue to. 92 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,560 Whoa, okay, big check. Hard yes. 93 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,240 I'm a little on the fence. This good stuff, this good stuff. 94 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,440 It's not that expensive. I want to do like half check mark with it and then it's an X. 95 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:48,200 It's like I would subscribe to it and I wouldn't subscribe to it because I did this in the fall. 96 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Just subscribing for two months to watch Severance. 97 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,640 If it's not going to be an ongoing thing, it doesn't count. Okay, I'll do an X. 98 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,200 So the next one, it's kind of a little bit of an interesting one because I think everyone 99 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:05,800 has experience with this is iCloud. And so with Apple One, it ranges obviously, or even just if you get iCloud Plus itself 100 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,040 from 50 gigabytes to two terabytes above the standard five gigabytes, I've now put myself 101 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,680 in a position where I've had to pay the upgrade to 50 gigabytes and I'm mad about that. 102 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,800 Are you? I'm all the way at 200 because I split with my parents. 103 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:28,400 What do you use your iCloud for? If this is the entire thing, like this much is backups, this much is iMessage, and then 104 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:34,040 like this much is everything else. My majority is iMessage and then Documents, kind of one of those things where it's like 105 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,400 you kind of have to get it and I'm mad about that. 106 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,360 So would you get iCloud Plus? Yes, I'd buy it. 107 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:47,560 And how many gigabytes? If it was just myself, 50, I'm only on a higher plan because I'm on a family plan. 108 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:51,200 Okay, I'm the same way, I'm 50 as well. 109 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,760 There's the one thing that's included in all the tiers that we're covering and that is 110 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,680 arcade. As we know, gaming on Apple has been a thing. 111 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:04,880 We've discovered when we looked at the Mac Mini, I don't know if you're much of a mobile 112 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,800 gamer, I've managed to avoid that, but what do you think of an Apple Arcade? 113 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,800 No I'm not a mobile gamer. 114 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,600 That said, Apple Arcade importantly is not just mobile of course, it's also on Mac and 115 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Apple TV. And on Apple TV, it's not bad. 116 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:32,640 What did you plan on with TV? I was pleasantly surprised. So I found in Apple Arcade a few games that I had played before on my PlayStation, Sayonara 117 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Wild Hearts and Gree, I believe is how it's pronounced. 118 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,560 I was like, okay, I want to see how comparable this experience is. 119 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:45,000 So I just hooked up my PlayStation controller to my Apple TV, hooked it up to the exact 120 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:53,520 same TV I use for my PlayStation. And man, if you just handed me that controller and I had not seen what was hooked up to what, 121 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,680 I would just assume I'm playing on PlayStation. Okay. 122 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:01,120 It is genuinely comparable to a console experience for those games. 123 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,880 The asterisk is that I could probably count on one hand how many of those games there are. 124 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Looking at the way Apple Arcade has come along, we don't have to deal with free to play games, 125 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:17,680 you can actually like play a game normally. But even like going into some of the games, I'm like, these interfaces look very much 126 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:23,600 like free to play games. Even though they don't quite operate like that, it's kind of like a little disconcerting, 127 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:31,040 especially with the two games I played. But then looking at that list, like they just added the city builder game, whose name I 128 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:37,920 can't even remember now. And I played a bit of it and I was kind of not into it. 129 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,400 And then it's this car game that I was playing and I don't even remember the name of that 130 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,920 one either. A little bit more interesting, but I couldn't get the controls right. 131 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:53,480 It's tough. The other thing is the release cadence. For a while there, you're kind of just getting like one game every couple weeks. 132 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,960 I was kind of worried. I was like, oh, is Apple Arcade kind of like running out of steam here? 133 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:04,080 But then as we're making this video, 20 new games in one day, which as far as I'm aware, 134 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,760 aside from like their initial launch, is the biggest release day they've had. 135 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,200 I hope this means that more developers are getting interested. 136 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,000 I hope as well they start to support like the Mac side of things way more. 137 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,600 Would you pay for Apple Arcade? I would not pay for Apple Arcade. 138 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,480 In paying for Apple One, there's some games there that would be worth my time. 139 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,480 No, me neither. 140 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,840 The next one's interesting because it's not one I would ever have thought of. 141 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,400 It's the biggest surprise to me when it came out, which is Fitness Plus, which basically 142 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,320 means Apple is effectively making workout DVDs. 143 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,480 If Apple released this service 20 years ago, it would be a DVD box set. 144 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Yeah. You do workout. Yeah. 145 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,640 And you did forego the gym this week. Yeah. 146 00:11:54,640 --> 00:12:00,040 How'd it go? I didn't dislike it as much as I thought, but it's still not for me. 147 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,960 They offer 12 workout groups. Of those, three are Stationery Bike, Rowing Machine, Treadmill. 148 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,920 So now you're down to nine groups, basically. 149 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:16,280 One of the other ones, Strength Training, has over 300 workouts available. 150 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:22,840 If you choose to filter, to only see videos with no equipment, it goes down to about 10. 151 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:30,640 So each workout has a set playlist. You cannot change that, but each workout will have something different. 152 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,560 So they have workouts set to country, workouts set to pop, but it's the same for everyone. 153 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:41,120 You cannot change that, which I find a bit strange because, hey, it's already linked 154 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:47,280 to my Apple Music. I can go to the workout details and it pulls up like the music featured there and I can 155 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,080 just one tap on it. It brings me into Apple Music. Why can I not just say it to my own workout? 156 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,560 It allows you to track your calories burned and all of that, you know, whatever it is 157 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,560 that's in your rings. I'm going to be honest. Don't pay attention to rings. 158 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:03,080 I don't care. But they are weird. So many people are obsessed with them. 159 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,800 It's a service that I think if you're somebody that already goes to the gym, it doesn't have 160 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,800 much value. Yeah. But if you don't go to the gym and you're just trying to get into fitness or you just 161 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:17,360 want something to do at home and you like that kind of like instructor setting, it's 162 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:27,240 great for a certain person. It's not me, but I think that service for somebody who's looking for that will be well 163 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:33,120 fulfilled by it. So though, would you get this service yourself? 164 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,640 I'd recommend it by Wayne Gabe. Okay. So big no. 165 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,800 Big, big no for me. Okay. 166 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,800 Big no for me too. Yeah. Yeah. 167 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,920 I didn't even ask you at all. Was there any appeal? 168 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,480 Like did you even like consider trying it all because you do use an Apple watch. 169 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,720 Do you use it for any sort of fitness tracking at all? 170 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,880 When I go to walk to my friend's house, it taps me on the wrist and says, is this an 171 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:03,720 outdoor walk? And I say, sure. I think I would want to go personally would want to go beyond workout videos. 172 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:09,000 You know, to be fair, I did, I did try some in my past in a past life and they were really 173 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:15,080 nice to do. And so I, you know, no problems doing it, but looking at fitness plus, it's kind of 174 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:21,200 like, I think probably for what I would want to do, I don't know, fitness plus would really 175 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,040 cover the cover that now. 176 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,920 The next one, I will have lots to talk about because it's news plus. 177 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,080 I will have a lot. Did you even open up news plus at all? 178 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:38,960 I did. I read a page of a magazine. 179 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Talking about a Corvette. So having news plus feels like this, like kind of like this like, ah, release, I can 180 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,720 like actually access all this interesting content and read, which is really nice. 181 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,120 And I think too, like if you're someone who finds yourself caught behind these news article 182 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,920 paywalls all the time, news plus could be a really great way to just have access to 183 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:10,320 it all at one go. What I found with news plus was that it was surfacing articles and news pieces and entire 184 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,120 publications that I wouldn't necessarily seek out. 185 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Would you mostly do with it? Like, what were you mostly reading? I read a car and driver articles from whatever, Wall Street Journal and so it was really nice 186 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:31,000 to be able to do that. Now, one of the things you can run into is like somebody links to an article on Twitter 187 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,320 and you click the link and it takes you to the web page and then you got the paywall 188 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:40,440 there. And so if you have Apple news plus, there's a bit of like a translation layer where you 189 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,800 have to kind of find the article kind of manually on Apple news plus, which is really annoying. 190 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,280 And then if you want to share an article, you're only sharing the Apple news plus link. 191 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:55,040 And so there's sort of like a bit of a disconnect there that's not really clear. 192 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,320 So yeah, would you get it? 193 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,440 I would not. You would not get it. 194 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,200 Me, okay. I really want it. 195 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,520 I really do like it. I might give it a check. I think I'm going to give it a check. 196 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,040 I think it's a great value. It's not for me, but I think it's a great value. 197 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,560 Okay. So it appears that Apple One does give you a lot if you subscribe to it, especially if 198 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,480 you get the premiere plan and it does come with pretty steep savings if you're to get 199 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:33,200 everything together. But really how much you save is dependent on the services you're going to use and if 200 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:44,440 you need them. And looking at this chart, you have two things, and I have three things, which is a big surprise 201 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,920 here. Yeah. And this is in line with what I currently actually pay for. 202 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,960 Right. I do pay for TV plus. I do pay for iCloud plus. 203 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:59,680 I don't pay for any of the others. I pay $3 a month, and this would be a dollar a month. 204 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,800 So that is a lot less than if you were to get the Apple One subscription. 205 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:09,880 It is. Yes. The thing that would push that over the edge is Apple Music, which if they just added 206 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:20,960 that one feature, I would switch it to a heartbeat. So we got 11, that's 21, 22, but you only get Apple News plus with the premiere subscription. 207 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Which is 32. I'm still below. 208 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,080 I guess that means neither of us want Apple One. 209 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Yes. But I think that's for us, because I think this would be good enough for most people. 210 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,120 I pay for too many things. Yes, you do. Apple One is the solution. 211 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:43,200 You pay for, I, you wish Apple One would work for you. 212 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,200 It's the one. You wish. It is so close. 213 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,160 It is so close to make a difference for you, and it can't. 214 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,040 I kind of just want to anyways. There's no two ways around it. 215 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,240 Apple One gets you a lot, with some pretty steep savings. 216 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,400 But how much you save, if anything at all, is dependent on how many services you use 217 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,080 and if you need them. I mean, if you're on the family plan, I can see that, splitting with even one other person 218 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,280 makes it pretty affordable, let alone up to six. But why not subscribe then? 219 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,680 The real value proposition for Apple One comes down to how much you like Apple's TV plus 220 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,720 lineup. If there's enough to keep you subscribed continuously long term, then yes, Apple One 221 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,720 is great value. And you like Apple TV. 222 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:30,760 And so while Apple One does represent considerable savings compared to getting everything individually, 223 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:38,040 that doesn't mean you should just jump on it. If you're not signing up for most of the services, you won't be saving any money. 224 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,560 And so that means that Steven and I will be cancelling our subscriptions. 225 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Thanks for subscribing to this Mac Address. 226 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,160 If you love subscriptions and paying for them, well, like this video. 227 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,980 And I'm curious, what amount of Apple subscriptions you would actually sign up for like Steven 228 00:18:56,980 --> 00:18:59,480 and I? Would you make the Apple One thresholds? Comment below.