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but the thing is if you've got a good high quality acoustic panel ready nicholas you can use it for pretty much anything so we're gonna go one stage at a time with each of these boxes costing about 100 us dollars and c do they do anything and if they do anything how much do you need before you get some kind of measurable impact and how far can you go before i tell you about our sponsor thanks jackery for sponsoring this video from september 20th to october 11th jackery is celebrating their ninth anniversary with a photo contest to win some of their products click the link in the video description to learn more in every wave panel starter set you get everything you need to acoustically treat about one square meter or ten square feet of wall or ceiling you get six of the wave panels themselves a bunch of brackets as well as joiners in case you want to bind them together and make cool geometric patterns on your wall as well as instructions and everything you will need to mount them before we can mount anything though we need to get a baseline reading of the current state of the room now there are two main ways we record audio for our videos either with a lavalier microphone under my shirt or with a shotgun microphone that's mounted out of the frame and you guys can hear the difference in how those sound the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog then in order to science it up a little bit we're gonna switch over to this puppy right here this is the umic one an omnidirectional condenser microphone from mini dsp that is specifically designed for taking room measurements like this the software we're going to use is called rew or roo we just click measure rename it to control no panels and start you guys are going to want to plug yours wow it's no wonder the audio's so bad in here even with all the stuff that we have in the room now i mean it was worse before we are still seeing standing waves that are lasting as long as about 0.9 of a second hard to listen to now the goal isn't to turn this place into an anechoic chamber elgato wave panels would not be the way to do that we just want to cut down on reverb so the first thing we need to know is how much actual wall and ceiling area there is in this room so we've got 10 23 times two that's the ceiling in the floor and then you want to give me those wall measurements we got 13 carry the one i don't think i have ever carried the one on camera ah yes there 35 13. i remember to carry the one forgot all the other basics why don't we target five percent coverage and see what happens stage two ten percent stage three i mean that better that better do it yeah profit seven we have one small problem my control i said it was with no panels in the room i had these ones sitting here so nobody touched these we have to i want to keep this scientific boys so these are off these are off limits this pack though this wasn't in here james these are a little bit finicky but given that it's something you're only going to do once not bad actually elgato not bad full disclosure the reason we have that omnidirectional speaker and the reason we already know how to use this software is because it is our intention to make our own acoustic panel product but that doesn't mean that i'm going to say this is anything but damn looking pretty good of course the performance is ultimately what matters more so these aren't the thickest acoustic panels in the world that cause me some concern the thinner they are the lower the band of frequencies they will absorb thinner meaning higher frequencies only but it is two different materials that's cool because you know you've got a low density foam here and a high air density foam here plus any time that sound goes through a medium change that's pretty good for absorption then the setup you don't have to read the instructions at all at least i hope so because i didn't uh they're really easy to clip together and then they just friction down into the holes that are already on the foam not the most secure i might i might put some adhesive in there if it was missing critical but if i was going to ceiling mounted i would on the wall it's probably fine now what are you thinking in terms of placement do we want to put individual panels just kind of around do we want to clip them together in kind of geometric shapes and go for large flat surfaces are we targeting the walls the corners i think that you want to have big contiguous patches where possible like look between those two blue pipes over there or right there but then because there are so many different gadgets and machines in here there's some spots where you don't have much room just do what you can in those spots a mix okay the clips go in the front just two kind of flimsy honestly but as soon as you add a third you've tripled the joins so it's quite a bit more rigid it's still i mean it's not structural but we're climbing it can you hold this for me please i'm just going to climb this climate climate sebastian i mean if the laser level can't support my weight it's not a good laser level don't go in the lid uh yeah climate stick tips yeah there's absolutely no reason to put the foam these foamies on before you hang it on the wall so now we know that's a tech tip does it look level yeah it looks good there you are all right just lean just thrust i love you wall you're awesome now that we've seen how much space even one pack takes up on the wall we're rethinking our strategy for laying them out a little bit so what we're going to try to do is in each area we want to put panels we're gonna put half as many as would fit now so that one we're gonna expand by adding another six and then this one here we're gonna lean a little low so we can go one two three four more kind of thing when it's time for the second round of testing i'm good everything's good quick thought james before we assemble a full frame for the ceiling why don't we just try sticking one to the ceiling and see if this tape actually holds i think the frame will hold but what about the foam isn't it just gonna fall off only one way to find out uh do you mind passing me just one of those single frames uh there's some right there oh thanks david yeah there you go okay there you go there you go bud stretch the tape is on that side yeah i see it there's no way this works i am not super hopeful i don't think you got that one corner closest to you i guess you're ready to double down now yeah let's do it okay let's get the ladder does elgato intend for these to go on the ceiling uh i think this is outside their scope sorry a little bit ceiling crap you okay feels like i inhaled a feather or something do you have a water bottle here unfortunately no my lttstore.com water bottle is not here otherwise i'd be fine the idea is to distribute our five percent as though that's all we have so we're going to try and get some paneling on pretty much every surface uh bell over there is mounting free above the eye wash station for example now obviously before we roll out a bunch of these next to something like a welding station we want to make sure they have at least some level of fire resistance see if i can actually there you go okay we have a fire extinguisher don't worry it's right there that's a lot of heat okay wow i'm convinced should be fine this was one we cut up for a different deployment over on the podcast set so it's a sacrificial one oh it stinks but yeah what could go wrong he sings this while he's holding things over expensive equipment yeah what could go wrong they definitely work better on the wall than they do on the ceiling although so far everything we put up has stayed but you know what's more impressive is everything we've got up here so far is still cheaper than yeah this thing this kit from auralex 660 dollars for like honestly i'd be surprised if that single foam type one even performs as well as this we'll see they're thicker though i think uh not really fair enough you know what guys we've got 19 more panels to put up and i don't know about you guys but i'm already noticing a huge difference we're back on both my 416 as well as my lavalier microphone you guys can hear the differences between those the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog now i'm just gonna come around here and we're gonna do a second sweep okay approximately five percent coverage and start we retested last time i moved away so dang that's actually i mean it's not that i can't hear the difference i can totally hear the difference i like i believe it but still that's really impressive five percent coverage with these things and we went from a peak of 0.9 seconds at sort of around the range of my speaking voice all the way to about point six point six and change i mean you can tell el elgato clearly targeted human speech frequencies because that's what this product is designed for because that's where we see the biggest improvement right in that 400 to approximately 1500 hertz range wow even up to around three kilohertz it's like pretty darn good like how does it sound better to you if i'm hosting a video okay david we're we're building this computer this is a super cool build by the way make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss this one sounds way better wow that's awesome let's put up a few more let's get that big flat spot there dealt with i don't know maybe like you know a strip down there and then we'll we'll call it yeah everything's been going really well so far but david i just noticed something i thought i was kind of imagining it before but look at this there's some inconsistency in the color of the foam so if this was a major aesthetic thing for you um just be aware like this one's basically silver compared to this one which is more like black do you see that yeah i didn't i wasn't sure until i saw these two next to each other like they're a little all over the place but if you buy one pack i would imagine they're closer at least without any clear objective we kind of put some more on until it looked nice i think it looks pretty nice in here and we ended up with a total of 210 square feet which it's kind of looking dangerously close to 69 percent hold on let's check it 10 divided by 35 30. 5.9 5.9 one short but that's okay let's go ahead and run our second our third rather our third sweep actually wait i forgot to do this again the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog all right okay now let's do our sweep i i think it's actually better again i could be wrong i could be imagining it that is why we have objective measurements we added another six boxes giving us approximately 5.9 coverage and let's go ahead and start it guys ready wow big improvement again check this out guys we just shaved off another anywhere from 0.1 to 0.2 of a second in the range that we care about which is kind of in here this is honestly way better than i expected like this is completely usable now i we could keep putting on panels but honestly i just don't really feel like it's necessary we can take these panels we can treat other areas in the studio i you know what you guys might look at the cost of this 2100 and you might think whoa that's a lot of money and it is but compared to what normal acoustic treatment panels cost from specialty vendors they are darn freaking reasonable remember this is a big room now obviously you could save a lot of money doing it yourself with rock wool or ultra touch batting and a wooden frame absolutely but considering the overall package here i think Corsair's got excuse me elgato has a winner on their hands just like our sponsor's a winner thanks to skylum for sponsoring today's video coming this winter skylim is releasing their newest creative photo editing software luminor neo it's made by the team behind luminer ai and luminer neo was created on a brand new engine for increased performance and comes with some brand new features their new relighting options have luminor neo analyzing your image to recognize depth and allowing for precise control over exposure and tone you can remove blemishes and artifacts left by a dirty camera sensor or remove those power lines interrupting your photo with ease there are also new powerful background replacement features to quickly swap out your background for different scenes the new engine also allows for complex layering of several raw images without significant performance loss so don't wait reserve your copy of lumen or neo today to ensure that you get a copy at their limited early bird pricing using the link in the video description if you guys are looking for another video to watch by the way elgato provided panels for this one but they actually sponsored a full elgato streaming setup video where we're gonna have literally all elgato and have a look at what the complete package looks like so we'll have that 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