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If we're small for anything these days, it's choice.

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Look, it's a lot of computers.

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And it's left me wondering, if the average person were to come to this table

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and choose from any of these devices to build out their dream Apple ecosystem config,

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what products would they choose? What lines would they draw and what does that say about them as a person?

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Well, we're gonna find out.

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You have a lot of resistance. I know, because you're pushing really hard.

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For this experiment, I selected four participants. Dennis from Channel Superfund,

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Nicole, our editing coordinator, Dan, some technical guy, and Anthony,

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the only other Apple user I can trust here at the office.

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I feel like I might fall. I would never let you fall. This is a Mac Address video, not a Channel Superfund video.

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I'm like at the doctor's office again. What, they blindfold you?

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Do they not blindfold other people? All right, Anthony, take the blindfold off.

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Okay, here we go.

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Wow. Ooh.

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Wow, is that Apple store? Look, it's the whole Apple lineup, what do you think?

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Yeah, yeah, that's what it looks like. So how many Apple products do you have?

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Zero. Oh, okay, do you like Apple products?

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I like Google more. Okay, this will be interesting.

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I have about, I would say 12 iMacs and probably about 10 MacBook Pros.

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Okay, wow, but that just sounds like hoarding. This sounds like a collection.

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What do you use? I use none of them. I like to fix them and then give them back

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to the community for people that need a computer. Very noble. Do I have a limit of what I can buy or do I have a budget?

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I'll tell you the full price when you've chosen your things and you can decide whether that works for you or not.

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Okay, if I get to choose all this Apple product. Yeah.

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Pro Display XDR. You're gonna take the Pro Display XDR? Look at how beautiful it is.

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It's beautiful editing. It's amazing. Come with stand.

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Well, that'll be added to the price. Wait, if you're getting a studio display, what computer are you gonna plug it into?

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Doesn't come with a computer? No, that's a separate. Okay, okay, I want a combo.

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I want a combo. You want the Mac Pro as well? Yes, I want a combo.

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Okay, well go get it and go put it on the table. I like it big for the editing purpose.

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Definitely a Mac, not a laptop. So you go desktop.

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I would definitely go desktop. What are you gonna do on the computer? Well, I do a lot of games design

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as well as music production. My problem is I've been getting into 3D modeling

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a lot more recently, and my current setup has a 3080 Ti

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and I just bought a 13900K.

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These are all meaningless numbers to Apple users. This is an Apple guy.

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It's a mixed use station, right? So I need very good single core performance

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and I know the new M line really is quite good at that.

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The thing is, so this is an M1, the single core is better in an M2,

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but then you have to get a Mac mini for that right now.

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What is the difference between the studio and the mini? Okay, so the mini.

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Besides the CPU, GPU combo. Flatness?

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It's thinner. Here, well push it. No, no, let's do the M2.

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I can use the studio display with the M. Yeah, you can definitely do that.

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Terrible idea. It's support 6K. It's too many Ks. What keyboard do you want?

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Oh, okay, so I actually do have feelings about this which is nice.

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I used to edit on a Mac Pro. The old cheese grater.

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Yeah, I started on Mac. I miss the trackpad. Oh, grab the trackpad.

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I'm, yeah, I don't know how I feel about that, admitting it, but.

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And then what keyboard? Does it have to be an Apple keyboard? No, I mean, you can get any keyboard.

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We have a video about that. I didn't know if this was a thing.

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This is cool. All right, there we are. I've always wanted to try like a Mac desktop.

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Like thought about getting a Mac mini just because they're cheap. Yeah.

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But, yeah, I never picked one up. And, you know, the Mac studio was pretty tempting

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at the time, but I think I would prefer a portable Mac.

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No love for the iMac? No love for the, well, I mean, I've always wondered what people see in iMacs

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and I wanted to like sit down and try and iMac for a while, but. The color.

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As far as desktops go, I like to build my own. With a laptop, you're not going to build your own, right?

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So what laptop would you choose? Would you just get a simple MacBook Air?

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MacBook, what about the M2? You like the M2? The new MacBook Airs are nice.

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I've thought about trying those out, but I think they're a little bit too light.

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Oh, these are too light? When I'm sitting at home watching TV,

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I like to have it in my lap reclining in the chair.

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And they're not balanced for that. Oh, really?

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Yeah, so like they tend to go this way.

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The 13 inch, or sorry, 14 inch, it's really nice, the amount of like screen real estate

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you get for the small package is pretty good.

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But I think that I would replace my 2011 15 inch

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with a 16 inch. And the way the screen looks, it basically feels like carrying a desktop monitor.

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That's nice. I like options, so.

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Oh, you like about flexibility? Yes. So a Mac might be too restrictive too.

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Yeah. Okay, so there's a lot of MacBooks. Okay, we've got a 16 inch MacBook Pro

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with an M2 Macs or M2 Pro processor now.

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What MacBook kind of appeals to you? I like the 14 inch.

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MacBook Pro? MacBook Pro, yeah. So I am a fan of that.

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This will be your choice? Well, this has to be my primary workstation though.

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This is your Apple lifestyle, so like this will be your computer. You could use it as your primary computer for sure.

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I would go with the Macs then.

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Okay, so the thing I'm most curious about in this video is,

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what I'm gonna call the iOS macOS dividing line.

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It's two very distinct ways of using computer.

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So you're gonna have the finger directly manipulating the screen, or I guess in the case of laptop,

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the finger manipulating a pointer.

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It's two very distinct ways of using this portable device.

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And yet at 13 inches and 12 and a half inches,

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they kind of overlap a little bit, which has been very confusing to people

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who wanna see macOS on the iPad or a touchscreen on a MacBook.

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This is the reason why. I don't know, but for me, I think even in this sort of overlap,

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I'd probably still go for the MacBook. Okay, so you've been on a Mac Address video before,

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and it was about the iPad, and it was about specifically this iPad.

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And you are an iPad owner. I am. But let's say it broke,

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or you don't have it anymore or something like that, and you were to go out and choose an iPad now,

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from the Apple store, which iPad would you choose from the whole lineup?

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I have been considering the new iPad Pro. Really?

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Yes. I think I still would stick with the 11-inch.

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Okay. But you don't wanna laptop it off?

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No, so my current laptop, I'm more concerned about breaking the floor if I drop it.

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There's just no anxiety anymore when I'm carrying it around, because it's like, if I bang it on something,

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or if I drop it, these ones are unfixable, they're not upgradeable.

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Tablets, though. Tablets? I know that you've done some videos

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about the pencil compatibility, and the pencil one with the iPad something or other.

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Okay, so please- Give me the best art tablet. I actually, you know, I was looking at the mini.

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The mini uses the second gen pencil. These use the second gen pencil as well.

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This has an M1 processor, these now have M2 processors. What's the mini got in it?

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A15. I love the form factor of the mini.

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The only thing that pissed me off about these is the no expandability option, like SD card.

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I mean, that's a major thing. But it's not an option of any of them.

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Ah, crap, I don't know. But you're like going between two extremes

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of like a tiny iPad and a huge- Yeah, but I like the form factor of that,

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because it's like- Then what do you like about this? Cause it's good, or more good-er-er.

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Well, at least they have the edges aren't as broken.

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I don't know, it's just so giant. Does it support like pressure?

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What does, natively? That's great. Latency feels pretty good.

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It's wireless right now too. That's great. We proved it works.

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I'll take the big iPad. For me, I would more than likely go-

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Really? For the big chunk of- You pay the extra money, eh?

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I pay the extra money. First of all, you're getting a better display. It is a great screen, yeah.

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It is, in my opinion, a better fit for the Magic Keyboard.

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So, if I were to use this as a very portable laptop

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kind of thing, it's much more suitable for that. But you have the laptop already.

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Yeah, but it's not supportable. Okay, all right. So I got multiple classes at device.

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I have my desktop, I have my laptop, and I have this,

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which is like, I grab this on the plane or whatever, when my laptop is-

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Oh, okay, I see.

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That's interesting seeing the whole phone line up here. There are a lot of phones,

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but they don't look that different in size when you put them next to each other.

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Oh, wait, no, wait, ah, ah, now I see it.

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Okay, those are some steps.

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Still would go for the small phone. That's for sure.

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iPhone, I do need a new iPhone because my phone Pixel 6 Pro is kind of broken now.

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All right, so this is the iPhone 14. These are 14, 14 plus-

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What's the newest now? 14, 14 plus, so that's a regular price phone.

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And then we got the Pro and Pro Max. Pro Max, I always go for the best.

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Now I know you have an iPhone mini. You have a 13 mini specifically, right?

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Which is still available. Would you still get a 13 mini now,

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or would you upgrade to a 14? Would you go for the 14?

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If I were to buy one right now, I think I would still go with the mini.

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Really? Yes. I think it's purely for the size.

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It's a nice size. It's such a nice size. And it's a good deal too.

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It is, especially if you already have an iPad. Yeah.

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There's a MacBook. What are you watching on your phone?

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Out of all the iPhone- The mini, right? Oh yeah, absolutely. Look at how well that fits in my hand.

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Oh, that's nice. See, this is even smaller. Oh, really? This is, this feels like a toy.

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What do you pick? It's about you. I picked the big one.

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The cameras on this thing are really good. Yeah.

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A lot of the time I actually do find myself needing good cameras for my line of work.

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And also it really helps to have a really good telephoto to kind of see things that are either really small

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or far away. So yeah, I mean, I'm not super stoked

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on the dynamic island. No, that's cool.

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I mean, it's not bad. It's probably the best way

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they could have handled a giant- Pill, yeah. Pill.

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I think it's clever. Yeah, I like it. It's clever. But it's gonna mean like if your selfie cam

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is gonna have fingerprints all over it all the time. Phone?

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Huh? No. You don't want any iPhone?

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No. Look at this though. You don't have an unlocked boot loader?

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Well, then I don't get an eye watch either.

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I need an Apple watch. Actually, I had, I tried one on the Google one.

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The Google Pixel Watch? Yeah. The battery is horrible.

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So I would prefer something kind of last longer. So, okay, this has the most battery life.

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This is very like tough looking. Yeah, it's the Apple Watch Ultra.

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Oh, let's go. I want the toughest one. You're gonna get the toughest watch?

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Now, I believe you already have an Apple Watch. Series seven.

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Oh, yes. Yeah, the Starlight. Starlight Series seven. I think we talked about it.

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So would you get a, would you just get a Series eight? Then if you didn't have an Apple Watch?

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I would get the Series eight.

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Yes. And you'd still stick with a smaller one, not the bigger one? I would stick with the smaller one.

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The Ultra's huge. I mean, you already have a bit of a perfect setup anyway.

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We're just gonna reinforce it. Do you have an Apple Watch? I've had one.

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Would you go back? And if you were, which one would you pick?

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The Ultra is nice. I mean, it has that great big screen that I like.

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It's a nice screen. Yeah, nice glass screen. It is heavy.

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Like it's a little bit more than I think I need. Everyone else notices it.

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Like, I mean, I use my watch for notifications and stuff like that.

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So probably what I would do is the larger Series eight.

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Yeah. There you go. Pop it on.

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What's interesting about Apple's accessories now is that they've kind of grown into their whole thing

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and become an array of multi-hundred-dollar devices

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themselves that are still dependent on those things.

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I mean, these are like almost $500. I do like the Apple TV,

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which is also very expensive for a set top box.

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And then there's the $20 polishing cloth, which is the best value of them all.

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One of the interesting things is you actually chose the big iPad.

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And the big iPad sits in this really weird place between a laptop and a tablet,

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because it can sort of do both. It's just a second screen, really.

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It's its own thing. This is, you're getting, you're kind of killing me here.

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Would you get this to kind of laptopify your iPad?

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You feel free to bring the iPad and try it on. The magnets are nice and strong.

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That's really, that feels nice and sturdy. And it like pairs, it's, it runs off the iPad.

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Cool. It pairs automatically. I mean, it would actually probably work really well

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as a stand on the desk and as a portable thing. And then I wouldn't get the camera bumps all screwed up.

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So we'll take that too. Okay, well we're here, Apple TV?

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No. Any AirPods? No, I don't like wireless earbuds.

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If you had chosen an iPad, you could have gotten a Magic Keyboard or a Pencil, but you didn't want that.

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Would you have an Apple TV? Yes, I have Apple TV at home actually.

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You do have one? Oh, okay. Zero. I always like the newest stuff.

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So if it's not new, I don't want it. Okay, but if we had the new HomePod, would you choose it?

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I would, I would. Okay, we'll Photoshop it in. So take the Apple TV. Photoshop it here.

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I guess if I have an iPhone, I must get it. Those are Pro.

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Those are AirPods Pro. So that's noise cancelling. That's B Pro for me. Oh, I like this too.

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No, you have to choose one AirPods. What? Yeah.

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Oh, fine, you want this one? Whoa, okay. Cause I like this like, the look.

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Now you chose the 11 inch iPad. Yes. Would you get a Magic Keyboard?

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Not if I already have a MacBook. Oh, okay.

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What about a Pencil? I would get the Pencil. Okay, grab the Pencil now, Apple TV?

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No, I am not so much into the Apple TV. Really?

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Any AirPods? Oh, AirPods Pro for sure. Okay, grab the AirPods Pro.

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Oh, I have to have the microfiber cloth. Come on.

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Like who could, who could resist? We're adding that to the price, by the way.

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We did the Apple TV, yeah. Okay.

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Yeah. I think Apple TV. Are you going to get a Magic Keyboard then for your big iPad?

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Oh yeah, I got it. And a Pencil?

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Now see, I want the Pencil, but I don't know that I would use it very much.

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The thing is, I don't like write a whole lot.

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What about draw? Drawing, I like to scribble from time to time,

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but it's nothing major. What about video editing on DaVinci on an iPad?

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I mean, that's not a thing that I do. And then, oh, any AirPods?

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Probably the AirPods Pros, although I've always wondered what those are like.

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Well, they're a bit heavy.

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Yeah. Yeah, they're a little heavy.

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Okay, Dennis, so this is your setup.

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These are pretty maxi choices you've made, but it's interesting, no iPad,

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but the biggest, fattest computer. You want to guess the grand total price for all this?

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Oh, the total? Ooh. 95,000, sorry.

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95,000. 95,000 or 9,500?

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95,000. Wow, this grand total of everything here is $23,000.

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Okay, so it's not that bad then. Would you pay $23,000 for this?

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If it's my own money, I would get rid of Apple TV.

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That's like $150. I would get rid of, I would get rid of Watch.

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This is also just like only like $1,100. Still money?

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You still want a Mac Pro, or would you be fine with maybe like a Mac Studio?

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Because this is like, this is almost $14,000. You get a Mac Studio for like-

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Can they do a very good on Premiere? Premiere's not good on anything.

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So there's no point on me getting this? No, you probably, in my experience,

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you'd probably be better off with a Mac Studio. I'd probably should watch more Mac Address videos.

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Okay, let's get a Mac Studio. Will you take the Watch and Apple TV back? Yeah, I'll take it back.

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Okay, okay, let's do that. Does this look beautiful to you?

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Is this still a beautiful computer? It's still beautiful. Okay, look how much less space it takes on this.

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Yeah, actually, beautiful. So the new total is $13,900.

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$13,900. It's a lot less.

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It's almost $10,000. I think it's doable.

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So all this stuff, you've selected. You want to take a guess at how much it'll cost you.

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So I'm gonna say $18,000.

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That's it? Oh, you are over budget. Or I guess you guessed too much.

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Oh, okay. $96,30.

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$96,30 US. $96,30.

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So my whole threadripper system cost me just over $10,000.

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So this replaces- This won't be as quick as fast, but-

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Yeah, the threadripper's not fast either. So you would not change anything

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about the setup knowing the price? No.

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Okay, yeah. Wow, well, there you go. This is your ultimate next setup.

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Awesome. Congrats. Thank you.

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How much do you think this all costs? Ooh, okay.

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I'm gonna ballpark $4,700. Whoa, you are so close.

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You're the closest anyone's been. $4,380.

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Oh, hey, okay. So knowing now the price of this is all this costs,

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what do you think about that? I think outright purchasing it as a whole

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isn't something I would think to do ever.

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But otherwise, I feel like this is like a very reasonable day-to-day-

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Works day-to-day. Yes. Yeah. If I'm not doing anything intensive.

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I guess if you didn't have your home PC and you use that, it makes it more reasonable too, right?

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It does, yeah. If it's like I completely got rid of my PC,

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if I didn't have any of the electronics that I currently have, and I'm just stuck

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choosing from this pool, this is it.

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65.30. Okay, so. 1,530.

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I went over, so I failed prices right. But yeah, I mean, that's not too bad

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considering most of this stuff, at least for a generation or two, is gonna hold its value.

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Probably what happens. What happens to most people I know

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who get into the Apple ecosystem is they buy one thing.

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And they're like, oh, this works really well with this other thing.

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I'll get that other thing. Oh, that other thing.

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And it just keeps going like that. And then you start rolling into upgrading basically

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each of your devices year over year.

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Okay, now it's my turn. Can no Mac Pro, no Pro Display XDR.

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I really love the iMac so much. And I would love to have this in my home.

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But I'm just not sure about

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the M1. There's something so well-rounded about

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just the base 14-inch MacBook Pro with an M2 Pro.

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I was surprised at how much more powerful it is than a loaded out M2 MacBook Air.

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And so it's got such a good screen and you could just set it on the desk with a monitor.

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Do I go for beauty? Or do I go for brains?

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Beauty? Brains.

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You know what's crazy? Is that a studio display costs more than an iMac.

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So we could still get the iMac.

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I need to, I regret my decision.

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I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna get a green iMac. I'm just gonna do what I know is right for me

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in, you know, within my limitations. And if the computer becomes too slow

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in two or three years instead of five, so be it.

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Okay, with the phone, super easy. I'm a small phone person, get this while you can.

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I think I'd get a series eight, big, that's easy.

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I've really come to appreciate how much people like the Apple Pencil

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and I did choose the cheap iPad, which would mean I'd have to use the first generation pencil,

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which is less money than the second generation. But would I actually like use the Apple Pencil in real life?

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When I take notes, I need to take notes physically in a notepad.

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I don't think I need an Apple Pencil, but I'm surprised at how much I like the Apple TV.

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And the other interesting thing is, I like how the third gen AirPods

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don't have silicon tips, but the new AirPods Pro do sound really good.

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I don't use headphones that often. I think, I think I'll get these.

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Third gen's, 2700.

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I think another game. What? 3100.

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3579. Oh, what?

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It's $3,500? That's more than I was expecting.

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I mean, I would have won if this were the prices right. That's good to know.

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It's my love for the iMac.

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My love for the iMac killed me. $3,500.

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Okay. Shit, should have got that MacBook.

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Thanks for shopping at this Mac Address. If you like all these Apple products laid out,

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I'm actually curious what you would choose

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for your ultimate Apple setup. Put it in the comments below with the total price.

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I'm sure that'll be sobering as it was for me. I didn't even have the highest price.
