If we're small for anything these days, it's choice.
Look, it's a lot of computers.
And it's left me wondering, if the average person were to come to this table
and choose from any of these devices to build out their dream Apple ecosystem config,
what products would they choose? What lines would they draw and what does that say about them as a person?
Well, we're gonna find out.
You have a lot of resistance. I know, because you're pushing really hard.
For this experiment, I selected four participants. Dennis from Channel Superfund,
Nicole, our editing coordinator, Dan, some technical guy, and Anthony,
the only other Apple user I can trust here at the office.
I feel like I might fall. I would never let you fall. This is a Mac Address video, not a Channel Superfund video.
I'm like at the doctor's office again. What, they blindfold you?
Do they not blindfold other people? All right, Anthony, take the blindfold off.
Okay, here we go.
Wow. Ooh.
Wow, is that Apple store? Look, it's the whole Apple lineup, what do you think?
Yeah, yeah, that's what it looks like. So how many Apple products do you have?
Zero. Oh, okay, do you like Apple products?
I like Google more. Okay, this will be interesting.
I have about, I would say 12 iMacs and probably about 10 MacBook Pros.
Okay, wow, but that just sounds like hoarding. This sounds like a collection.
What do you use? I use none of them. I like to fix them and then give them back
to the community for people that need a computer. Very noble. Do I have a limit of what I can buy or do I have a budget?
I'll tell you the full price when you've chosen your things and you can decide whether that works for you or not.
Okay, if I get to choose all this Apple product. Yeah.
Pro Display XDR. You're gonna take the Pro Display XDR? Look at how beautiful it is.
It's beautiful editing. It's amazing. Come with stand.
Well, that'll be added to the price. Wait, if you're getting a studio display, what computer are you gonna plug it into?
Doesn't come with a computer? No, that's a separate. Okay, okay, I want a combo.
I want a combo. You want the Mac Pro as well? Yes, I want a combo.
Okay, well go get it and go put it on the table. I like it big for the editing purpose.
Definitely a Mac, not a laptop. So you go desktop.
I would definitely go desktop. What are you gonna do on the computer? Well, I do a lot of games design
as well as music production. My problem is I've been getting into 3D modeling
a lot more recently, and my current setup has a 3080 Ti
and I just bought a 13900K.
These are all meaningless numbers to Apple users. This is an Apple guy.
It's a mixed use station, right? So I need very good single core performance
and I know the new M line really is quite good at that.
The thing is, so this is an M1, the single core is better in an M2,
but then you have to get a Mac mini for that right now.
What is the difference between the studio and the mini? Okay, so the mini.
Besides the CPU, GPU combo. Flatness?
It's thinner. Here, well push it. No, no, let's do the M2.
I can use the studio display with the M. Yeah, you can definitely do that.
Terrible idea. It's support 6K. It's too many Ks. What keyboard do you want?
Oh, okay, so I actually do have feelings about this which is nice.
I used to edit on a Mac Pro. The old cheese grater.
Yeah, I started on Mac. I miss the trackpad. Oh, grab the trackpad.
I'm, yeah, I don't know how I feel about that, admitting it, but.
And then what keyboard? Does it have to be an Apple keyboard? No, I mean, you can get any keyboard.
We have a video about that. I didn't know if this was a thing.
This is cool. All right, there we are. I've always wanted to try like a Mac desktop.
Like thought about getting a Mac mini just because they're cheap. Yeah.
But, yeah, I never picked one up. And, you know, the Mac studio was pretty tempting
at the time, but I think I would prefer a portable Mac.
No love for the iMac? No love for the, well, I mean, I've always wondered what people see in iMacs
and I wanted to like sit down and try and iMac for a while, but. The color.
As far as desktops go, I like to build my own. With a laptop, you're not going to build your own, right?
So what laptop would you choose? Would you just get a simple MacBook Air?
MacBook, what about the M2? You like the M2? The new MacBook Airs are nice.
I've thought about trying those out, but I think they're a little bit too light.
Oh, these are too light? When I'm sitting at home watching TV,
I like to have it in my lap reclining in the chair.
And they're not balanced for that. Oh, really?
Yeah, so like they tend to go this way.
The 13 inch, or sorry, 14 inch, it's really nice, the amount of like screen real estate
you get for the small package is pretty good.
But I think that I would replace my 2011 15 inch
with a 16 inch. And the way the screen looks, it basically feels like carrying a desktop monitor.
That's nice. I like options, so.
Oh, you like about flexibility? Yes. So a Mac might be too restrictive too.
Yeah. Okay, so there's a lot of MacBooks. Okay, we've got a 16 inch MacBook Pro
with an M2 Macs or M2 Pro processor now.
What MacBook kind of appeals to you? I like the 14 inch.
MacBook Pro? MacBook Pro, yeah. So I am a fan of that.
This will be your choice? Well, this has to be my primary workstation though.
This is your Apple lifestyle, so like this will be your computer. You could use it as your primary computer for sure.
I would go with the Macs then.
Okay, so the thing I'm most curious about in this video is,
what I'm gonna call the iOS macOS dividing line.
It's two very distinct ways of using computer.
So you're gonna have the finger directly manipulating the screen, or I guess in the case of laptop,
the finger manipulating a pointer.
It's two very distinct ways of using this portable device.
And yet at 13 inches and 12 and a half inches,
they kind of overlap a little bit, which has been very confusing to people
who wanna see macOS on the iPad or a touchscreen on a MacBook.
This is the reason why. I don't know, but for me, I think even in this sort of overlap,
I'd probably still go for the MacBook. Okay, so you've been on a Mac Address video before,
and it was about the iPad, and it was about specifically this iPad.
And you are an iPad owner. I am. But let's say it broke,
or you don't have it anymore or something like that, and you were to go out and choose an iPad now,
from the Apple store, which iPad would you choose from the whole lineup?
I have been considering the new iPad Pro. Really?
Yes. I think I still would stick with the 11-inch.
Okay. But you don't wanna laptop it off?
No, so my current laptop, I'm more concerned about breaking the floor if I drop it.
There's just no anxiety anymore when I'm carrying it around, because it's like, if I bang it on something,
or if I drop it, these ones are unfixable, they're not upgradeable.
Tablets, though. Tablets? I know that you've done some videos
about the pencil compatibility, and the pencil one with the iPad something or other.
Okay, so please- Give me the best art tablet. I actually, you know, I was looking at the mini.
The mini uses the second gen pencil. These use the second gen pencil as well.
This has an M1 processor, these now have M2 processors. What's the mini got in it?
A15. I love the form factor of the mini.
The only thing that pissed me off about these is the no expandability option, like SD card.
I mean, that's a major thing. But it's not an option of any of them.
Ah, crap, I don't know. But you're like going between two extremes
of like a tiny iPad and a huge- Yeah, but I like the form factor of that,
because it's like- Then what do you like about this? Cause it's good, or more good-er-er.
Well, at least they have the edges aren't as broken.
I don't know, it's just so giant. Does it support like pressure?
What does, natively? That's great. Latency feels pretty good.
It's wireless right now too. That's great. We proved it works.
I'll take the big iPad. For me, I would more than likely go-
Really? For the big chunk of- You pay the extra money, eh?
I pay the extra money. First of all, you're getting a better display. It is a great screen, yeah.
It is, in my opinion, a better fit for the Magic Keyboard.
So, if I were to use this as a very portable laptop
kind of thing, it's much more suitable for that. But you have the laptop already.
Yeah, but it's not supportable. Okay, all right. So I got multiple classes at device.
I have my desktop, I have my laptop, and I have this,
which is like, I grab this on the plane or whatever, when my laptop is-
Oh, okay, I see.
That's interesting seeing the whole phone line up here. There are a lot of phones,
but they don't look that different in size when you put them next to each other.
Oh, wait, no, wait, ah, ah, now I see it.
Okay, those are some steps.
Still would go for the small phone. That's for sure.
iPhone, I do need a new iPhone because my phone Pixel 6 Pro is kind of broken now.
All right, so this is the iPhone 14. These are 14, 14 plus-
What's the newest now? 14, 14 plus, so that's a regular price phone.
And then we got the Pro and Pro Max. Pro Max, I always go for the best.
Now I know you have an iPhone mini. You have a 13 mini specifically, right?
Which is still available. Would you still get a 13 mini now,
or would you upgrade to a 14? Would you go for the 14?
If I were to buy one right now, I think I would still go with the mini.
Really? Yes. I think it's purely for the size.
It's a nice size. It's such a nice size. And it's a good deal too.
It is, especially if you already have an iPad. Yeah.
There's a MacBook. What are you watching on your phone?
Out of all the iPhone- The mini, right? Oh yeah, absolutely. Look at how well that fits in my hand.
Oh, that's nice. See, this is even smaller. Oh, really? This is, this feels like a toy.
What do you pick? It's about you. I picked the big one.
The cameras on this thing are really good. Yeah.
A lot of the time I actually do find myself needing good cameras for my line of work.
And also it really helps to have a really good telephoto to kind of see things that are either really small
or far away. So yeah, I mean, I'm not super stoked
on the dynamic island. No, that's cool.
I mean, it's not bad. It's probably the best way
they could have handled a giant- Pill, yeah. Pill.
I think it's clever. Yeah, I like it. It's clever. But it's gonna mean like if your selfie cam
is gonna have fingerprints all over it all the time. Phone?
Huh? No. You don't want any iPhone?
No. Look at this though. You don't have an unlocked boot loader?
Well, then I don't get an eye watch either.
I need an Apple watch. Actually, I had, I tried one on the Google one.
The Google Pixel Watch? Yeah. The battery is horrible.
So I would prefer something kind of last longer. So, okay, this has the most battery life.
This is very like tough looking. Yeah, it's the Apple Watch Ultra.
Oh, let's go. I want the toughest one. You're gonna get the toughest watch?
Now, I believe you already have an Apple Watch. Series seven.
Oh, yes. Yeah, the Starlight. Starlight Series seven. I think we talked about it.
So would you get a, would you just get a Series eight? Then if you didn't have an Apple Watch?
I would get the Series eight.
Yes. And you'd still stick with a smaller one, not the bigger one? I would stick with the smaller one.
The Ultra's huge. I mean, you already have a bit of a perfect setup anyway.
We're just gonna reinforce it. Do you have an Apple Watch? I've had one.
Would you go back? And if you were, which one would you pick?
The Ultra is nice. I mean, it has that great big screen that I like.
It's a nice screen. Yeah, nice glass screen. It is heavy.
Like it's a little bit more than I think I need. Everyone else notices it.
Like, I mean, I use my watch for notifications and stuff like that.
So probably what I would do is the larger Series eight.
Yeah. There you go. Pop it on.
What's interesting about Apple's accessories now is that they've kind of grown into their whole thing
and become an array of multi-hundred-dollar devices
themselves that are still dependent on those things.
I mean, these are like almost $500. I do like the Apple TV,
which is also very expensive for a set top box.
And then there's the $20 polishing cloth, which is the best value of them all.
One of the interesting things is you actually chose the big iPad.
And the big iPad sits in this really weird place between a laptop and a tablet,
because it can sort of do both. It's just a second screen, really.
It's its own thing. This is, you're getting, you're kind of killing me here.
Would you get this to kind of laptopify your iPad?
You feel free to bring the iPad and try it on. The magnets are nice and strong.
That's really, that feels nice and sturdy. And it like pairs, it's, it runs off the iPad.
Cool. It pairs automatically. I mean, it would actually probably work really well
as a stand on the desk and as a portable thing. And then I wouldn't get the camera bumps all screwed up.
So we'll take that too. Okay, well we're here, Apple TV?
No. Any AirPods? No, I don't like wireless earbuds.
If you had chosen an iPad, you could have gotten a Magic Keyboard or a Pencil, but you didn't want that.
Would you have an Apple TV? Yes, I have Apple TV at home actually.
You do have one? Oh, okay. Zero. I always like the newest stuff.
So if it's not new, I don't want it. Okay, but if we had the new HomePod, would you choose it?
I would, I would. Okay, we'll Photoshop it in. So take the Apple TV. Photoshop it here.
I guess if I have an iPhone, I must get it. Those are Pro.
Those are AirPods Pro. So that's noise cancelling. That's B Pro for me. Oh, I like this too.
No, you have to choose one AirPods. What? Yeah.
Oh, fine, you want this one? Whoa, okay. Cause I like this like, the look.
Now you chose the 11 inch iPad. Yes. Would you get a Magic Keyboard?
Not if I already have a MacBook. Oh, okay.
What about a Pencil? I would get the Pencil. Okay, grab the Pencil now, Apple TV?
No, I am not so much into the Apple TV. Really?
Any AirPods? Oh, AirPods Pro for sure. Okay, grab the AirPods Pro.
Oh, I have to have the microfiber cloth. Come on.
Like who could, who could resist? We're adding that to the price, by the way.
We did the Apple TV, yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I think Apple TV. Are you going to get a Magic Keyboard then for your big iPad?
Oh yeah, I got it. And a Pencil?
Now see, I want the Pencil, but I don't know that I would use it very much.
The thing is, I don't like write a whole lot.
What about draw? Drawing, I like to scribble from time to time,
but it's nothing major. What about video editing on DaVinci on an iPad?
I mean, that's not a thing that I do. And then, oh, any AirPods?
Probably the AirPods Pros, although I've always wondered what those are like.
Well, they're a bit heavy.
Yeah. Yeah, they're a little heavy.
Okay, Dennis, so this is your setup.
These are pretty maxi choices you've made, but it's interesting, no iPad,
but the biggest, fattest computer. You want to guess the grand total price for all this?
Oh, the total? Ooh. 95,000, sorry.
95,000. 95,000 or 9,500?
95,000. Wow, this grand total of everything here is $23,000.
Okay, so it's not that bad then. Would you pay $23,000 for this?
If it's my own money, I would get rid of Apple TV.
That's like $150. I would get rid of, I would get rid of Watch.
This is also just like only like $1,100. Still money?
You still want a Mac Pro, or would you be fine with maybe like a Mac Studio?
Because this is like, this is almost $14,000. You get a Mac Studio for like-
Can they do a very good on Premiere? Premiere's not good on anything.
So there's no point on me getting this? No, you probably, in my experience,
you'd probably be better off with a Mac Studio. I'd probably should watch more Mac Address videos.
Okay, let's get a Mac Studio. Will you take the Watch and Apple TV back? Yeah, I'll take it back.
Okay, okay, let's do that. Does this look beautiful to you?
Is this still a beautiful computer? It's still beautiful. Okay, look how much less space it takes on this.
Yeah, actually, beautiful. So the new total is $13,900.
$13,900. It's a lot less.
It's almost $10,000. I think it's doable.
So all this stuff, you've selected. You want to take a guess at how much it'll cost you.
So I'm gonna say $18,000.
That's it? Oh, you are over budget. Or I guess you guessed too much.
Oh, okay. $96,30.
$96,30 US. $96,30.
So my whole threadripper system cost me just over $10,000.
So this replaces- This won't be as quick as fast, but-
Yeah, the threadripper's not fast either. So you would not change anything
about the setup knowing the price? No.
Okay, yeah. Wow, well, there you go. This is your ultimate next setup.
Awesome. Congrats. Thank you.
How much do you think this all costs? Ooh, okay.
I'm gonna ballpark $4,700. Whoa, you are so close.
You're the closest anyone's been. $4,380.
Oh, hey, okay. So knowing now the price of this is all this costs,
what do you think about that? I think outright purchasing it as a whole
isn't something I would think to do ever.
But otherwise, I feel like this is like a very reasonable day-to-day-
Works day-to-day. Yes. Yeah. If I'm not doing anything intensive.
I guess if you didn't have your home PC and you use that, it makes it more reasonable too, right?
It does, yeah. If it's like I completely got rid of my PC,
if I didn't have any of the electronics that I currently have, and I'm just stuck
choosing from this pool, this is it.
65.30. Okay, so. 1,530.
I went over, so I failed prices right. But yeah, I mean, that's not too bad
considering most of this stuff, at least for a generation or two, is gonna hold its value.
Probably what happens. What happens to most people I know
who get into the Apple ecosystem is they buy one thing.
And they're like, oh, this works really well with this other thing.
I'll get that other thing. Oh, that other thing.
And it just keeps going like that. And then you start rolling into upgrading basically
each of your devices year over year.
Okay, now it's my turn. Can no Mac Pro, no Pro Display XDR.
I really love the iMac so much. And I would love to have this in my home.
But I'm just not sure about
the M1. There's something so well-rounded about
just the base 14-inch MacBook Pro with an M2 Pro.
I was surprised at how much more powerful it is than a loaded out M2 MacBook Air.
And so it's got such a good screen and you could just set it on the desk with a monitor.
Do I go for beauty? Or do I go for brains?
Beauty? Brains.
You know what's crazy? Is that a studio display costs more than an iMac.
So we could still get the iMac.
I need to, I regret my decision.
I'm gonna, yeah, I'm gonna get a green iMac. I'm just gonna do what I know is right for me
in, you know, within my limitations. And if the computer becomes too slow
in two or three years instead of five, so be it.
Okay, with the phone, super easy. I'm a small phone person, get this while you can.
I think I'd get a series eight, big, that's easy.
I've really come to appreciate how much people like the Apple Pencil
and I did choose the cheap iPad, which would mean I'd have to use the first generation pencil,
which is less money than the second generation. But would I actually like use the Apple Pencil in real life?
When I take notes, I need to take notes physically in a notepad.
I don't think I need an Apple Pencil, but I'm surprised at how much I like the Apple TV.
And the other interesting thing is, I like how the third gen AirPods
don't have silicon tips, but the new AirPods Pro do sound really good.
I don't use headphones that often. I think, I think I'll get these.
Third gen's, 2700.
I think another game. What? 3100.
3579. Oh, what?
It's $3,500? That's more than I was expecting.
I mean, I would have won if this were the prices right. That's good to know.
It's my love for the iMac.
My love for the iMac killed me. $3,500.
Okay. Shit, should have got that MacBook.
Thanks for shopping at this Mac Address. If you like all these Apple products laid out,
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I'm actually curious what you would choose
for your ultimate Apple setup. Put it in the comments below with the total price.
I'm sure that'll be sobering as it was for me. I didn't even have the highest price.