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i spent nearly a quarter million dollars investing in framework a laptop company

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with a mission to change the game by providing full user upgradability and

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serviceability in the name of right to repair and environmentalism and i

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promised them and you that my role as an investor in their company would be to

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keep an eye on things even going so far as to publicly call them out and dump

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them if they dared betray my trust no matter how much it ended up costing me

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well guess what it's been a year and a lot has changed so how is framework

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holding up has it been smooth sailing or are they on stormy seas

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like a pirate looking for a segway to his sponsor

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ridge ridge wallet has redefined the traditional wallet with its compact

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frame and rfid blocking plates the bulge in your pants shouldn't be from your

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wallet use offer code Linus to save 10 and get free worldwide shipping

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australians huh let's start with the good since we last

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covered them framework has populated their store with replacement parts for

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pretty much every component of their laptop including

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drop-in replacement motherboards with 12th gen Intel cpus

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to see how easy this migration process is then i will be upgrading my framework

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to a new motherboard but of course we aren't going to be tossing this

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perfectly good 11th gen motherboard that would be a waste

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we're going to use it to

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to make a whole other mini pc

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using components from frameworks marketplace

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i'm going to start by pulling out my SSD wireless card

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sewed in memory modules and i guess that's it i start pulling out

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the board uh unplug the battery unplug the battery you say

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no that doesn't really seem like a good idea boop

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let's just start ripping it open right

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i actually stopped using my framework laptop for a little while and the short

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version of the story is that we were going to do a video where we spilled coke right across the keyboard of like

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five different laptops including my daily driver and then went through

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the process of repairing all of them to compare parts and service manual

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availability and costs and then we didn't get around to it so my personal

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machine this one has actually been sitting on the pending project shelf for

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like three months and just because i'm invested in framework doesn't mean i

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don't still love test driving other devices i've been playing around with the new ryzen 6000 version of the flow

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x13 from ASUS and it is mostly pretty amazing

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is that really all there was to it we've got the board out already

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uh which one's which they can make it

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repairable but they can't make it idiot proof it shouldn't surprise me because i've

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already built one of these things but this is shockingly painless i think if you were experienced like if you were

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upgrading a whole fleet of these things you could probably perform this operation in like

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five minutes as with any startup framework has not been perfect according

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to the community the most common issues with their 11th gen model where'd it go

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here it is our battery drain during sleep failing

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track pads and a weak hinge for the screen

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now that last one can be easily addressed with frameworks hinge upgrade

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that now ships with all new laptops and

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hello ah there it is we also got one to upgrade my old

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machine as for the track pads once again

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those can easily be repaired by the user so you don't need to send your laptop

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away and be completely computerless just to get a replacement trackpad however

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while you can just fix it yourself isn't an excuse for bad quality

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assurance because that wastes both time and money for framework and for you also

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the more parts that fail the more e-waste gets created which is against

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their goal framework acknowledges this on their blog though and says that they are

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focused on ironing out the kinks by the way we have finally ironed out the kinks

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on the LTT screwdriver make sure to sign up for an in-stock notification because

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it's coming real soon as for the battery drain well

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that one is a bit more complicated an ultra portable laptop isn't really ultra

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portable if you need to have a charger with you all the time and other publications have seen similarly spec

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and sized options from dell and acer getting anywhere from 50 to 100 more

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battery life per charge the problem seems to be due to the expansion cards

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and while framework has issued some beta BIOS updates hoping to remedy the issue

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it remains not completely resolved as of filming

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exacerbating the problem on Linux Intel doesn't have proper support for their

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deepest s3 sleep state on the penguin flavored operating system putting an

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ugly stain on framework's otherwise excellent support record with the open

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source community an AMD variant might be a way around this but in spite of me

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making introductions nearly a year ago i haven't received any update from either

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side so consider this a public call out AMD and framework if you guys want to be

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seen as companies that care about consumer choice you've got to walk the walk get your collective acts together

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so that we can have ryzen in our frameworks please like seriously don't

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you want to be part of this AMD compared to my early unit not only has

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the hinge been upgraded but there's also a reinforced back panel so i'll be

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upgrading mine as we go here

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and this is really cool because even framework benefits from their own

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modularity they don't actually have to re-engineer a whole laptop chassis to

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improve their build quality they can just swap the parts that they send to

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the assembly line and make these kinds of upgrades on the fly

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do they really need a stronger back panel i guess there were other benefits

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as well though i've never actually had the back panel part so this is kind of cool

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i wonder how hard this is to do i am extremely frustrated that i do not

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know where these screws came from this is really really bothering me a lot

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here's a spot where one of these screws is there's some here

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okay so it's definitely a framework screw but i have

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absolutely no idea where it came from

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do you want a part straight um that seems unnecessary doesn't it i'll

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just remember these are all screen screws i will need my old camera module

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then whoa what just happened

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this ribbon cable stays there we go

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like that sure

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uh shoot how was this in here

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oh i would strongly recommend paying

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attention to how it was assembled i genuinely cannot figure out how to get

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this ribbon cable in here hold on ah yes there we go

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i can put the new hinges on this as well great okay i

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guess part of that is going to be removing the old hinges

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uh no no the display yeah the display cables here so that can come out also oh

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darn it i cable managed in the wi-fi antennas and

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they need to come off now be really careful with these super fragile little

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connectors you can rip them off the board of the wi-fi module and

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then good luck repairing that if we just kind of go like this

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was this really so bad is the new one better

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wow that that's pretty stiff this boy goes here

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i didn't keep track of screws again

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that seems right

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oh crap i forgot about the wi-fi things

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i would say that the back panel upgrade is a little finickier than the

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motherboard upgrade for the benefit that i'm getting which is an increase in

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stiffness and more recycled aluminum

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remember how i said i definitely don't need a parts tray

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where are all the screws

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okay hold on hold on display cable here we go

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right no wait what is this what the hell is this cable oh no which

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ones are the screws for the display now whatever it is i need four of them

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i hope that a third-party accessory ecosystem can develop further

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dbrand shout out by the way does offer their protective skins and there are

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generic carry cases that fit the framework pretty well

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but what owners really want is more

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variety in the modules there is a small

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community of people creating custom designs thanks to frameworks open documentation but their official lineup

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kinda lacking no full sd card reader no powered

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amplifier not even a dual USB-C card and

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worst of all no Ethernet port oh

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actually they're making one wait oh do we have one oh shut up

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wait what all is in here

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sometimes it's good to be a backer an idea diary thanks framework

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this was definitely good use of time this on the other hand

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was good use of time oh wow

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how is this going to work one moment please

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you want me to use the orange bezel it really does look like a toy i'm sorry

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framework i'm not into the orange bezel but i'm i'm sure someone is

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that one's good that one's good ah yes my bezel's now on there's the new

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hinge right right i should put the keyboard back on

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how many extra screws do i have good god that's a lot

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these are all from that so i'm sure it's fine they're not framework laptop might

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have a percussive rattle

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oh no what did i do the keyboard is not installed yet

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that should fix that let's get this battery

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connected for such a simple operation this has been very scattered

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i'm sorry that goes in there

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oh yes assembled

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no longer recovery did i set a bit locker on this damn thing come on

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so bitlocker is going to ask you for your key which is on your old motherboard so we need to set this up

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right now this though is a perfect opportunity to talk

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about what i'm going to be doing with my old framework motherboard

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this right here is a 3d printed case for

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the framework motherboard that they provide the schematics for there are

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also community designed ones so that you can take

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your old system and turn it into a slim

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desktop i would say that threading a tiny little laptop screw into 3d printed

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plastic ah not the best

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i mean it's working to its credit like

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motherboard is not coming out here we go um

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yes how do you access the power switch

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i don't know um chopstick give me that uh give me that HDMI i want that HDMI

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okay hey Wi-Fi majigs

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maybe i'll use this for the temporary setup for the lan center at

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home we haven't got the pcs for the rack yet so i've just got some laptops and

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stuff in there but i could totally see myself just using one of these for the

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time being i'm gonna do a little tour of it as an exclusive behind the scenes for

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Floatplane by the way it's not worth a full video but you can go see it over on Floatplane.com if you subscribe this is

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a 2070 and i like this one because it's super compact this is actually the one

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that i used to use for travel

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oh maybe there's like a chassis intrusion

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thing that you have to disable yeah this continues to not

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wait did it need a BIOS update to support this mode

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shoot i just spit on it damn it it looks like

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i'm running an older version of the 11th gen motherboard firmware that doesn't

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allow it to boot without a battery installed

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so our devious plan is to

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jankily connect the battery from the framework laptop here that is fully

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assembled i mean at this point you know what it might actually be easier to just

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pull the battery out of the chassis because it's like three screws

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come on baby you can okay there's just a little bit of

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lip there yeah oh there we go and then they have a chassis intrusion detection

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thing here and then maybe the switch will work

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look at that let's take things one step further and

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maybe grab the built-in display cable

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i am going to power it down what it's on oh gosh sorry there's so

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much glare on the screen from that light i couldn't see that

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so i needed to not hold down that thing then

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that might have been it's uh all right the hinged that might have

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been the hinge detection sure wait

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wait shut up this is two and a half gig

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no way yup

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it's two and a half gig land okay do you have any idea where to get the firmware

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or did you just not prepare for this video i had no idea that there would be

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more firmware to get so i need to go get my bitlocker

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recovery key before i update my BIOS and before i put my drive into the new

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motherboard here we go starting our firmware update we rebooted

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and we're back to the red lights flashing when i hold this thing it goes

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green and blue over here which is interesting the problem is that it

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specifically says hey don't like power off your computer or anything because

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i'm flashing the firmware so i have no idea how long to leave this thing like

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this how many blinks though

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oh boy this is a big list the code will blink white then 12 blinks that are red

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or green than orange this is not what we've been seeing

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i mean it can't have taken that long to update the firmware so i'm going for it

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before we go for anything let me read and it's off oh

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zone it fired up without me holding down the thing this time which might indicate

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that we have the new firmware on it sure well i don't know oh oh whoa hey okay

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okay it's doing the update all right good success

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i still don't know how the crap you're supposed to power it on are you really supposed to just like take off the cover

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and freaking like press this button is that circle thing the power button like

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does it have a little rod sticking out of it nope nope not even a little

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oh wait it totally does

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nice david this is freaking awesome and because

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it's a framework and they've got all their modules things that you might not

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have needed when you were using it as a mobile device like say a full-size

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displayport connection can be added once you're using it as a desktop

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now that we've got everything resolved with the old board then we can go ahead

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and get the new one fired up i wouldn't actually recommend this for a

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thin and light notebook not because the performance isn't great but because it

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doesn't exactly sip power but i just want to get the thing fired up and i

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haven't gotten around to transferring the other SSD back over here yet closes

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up like that held in place by magnets this is actually

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legitimately super cool yes the main board upgrade was pretty

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expensive it was over a thousand dollars but it's also a 1280p core i7 that's a

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freaking expensive CPU and of course it has all of the other components on it as

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well if i were to buy a full-on brand new laptop with that level of hardware

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i'd be spending a lot more than that

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and i wouldn't have been able to repurpose my old laptop like this

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obviously i could sell it but this is

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way more flexible i'm able to just buy

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only the things i need to bring my machine up to date and reuse everything

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that i already have touchpad keyboard screen webcam

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my modules subject of modules i'm actually going to

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swap out this HDMI module for a displayport module right now

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oh wait no that's not actually what i want to do i'm dumb what i want to do is

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plug displayport into this hey hey look at that obviously not many

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people have these external Thunderbolt GPU enclosures but i said way back when

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they came out over the long term yeah they're expensive but they might not actually be

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a completely stupid investment this is cool is this not cool pretty

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it's pretty damn cool we got a little sidetracked having fun

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with the desktop build but let's put the product aside and talk about what framework has done to improve their

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efforts around environmentalism and right to repair

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first up they've launched an option to pay a hundred dollars to make your order

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carbon neutral through donations to carbon sequestration efforts

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i'm not entirely convinced that buying carbon credits is a true path towards

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the greener future but they also continue to find ways to

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introduce more post-consumer materials in the construction of their laptops

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their new backplate for example is made of 75 recycled aluminum while also being

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stronger compared to 50 from the old one that's the kind of

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effort that you only make if you actually care so thanks guys there's

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still room to do better so why don't we call this

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progress as for right to repair well it's one

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thing to offer replacement components but it's quite another to allow end

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users and independent repair shops to repair the components themselves

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friend of the channel and right to repair advocate lewis rossman has spoken

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at length about the importance of making schematics available and thanks to his

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advocacy and others schematics are available to repair shops fully

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available which no company has ever done for lewis's repair shop most companies

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avoid providing schematics to maintain an influence over their products by

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making deeper repairs too difficult to be economically viable this behavior is

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present across all major pc manufacturers and getting those chip

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giants to change would take a massive legislative action that is well beyond

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frameworks capabilities at this point in time so i guess we'll call this one a

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work in progress as well what is the future of the company

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well in february they secured 18 million in series a funding led by a company

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called spark capital and framework is using the funds for development of

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upcoming product categories and the long roadmap of new modules and geographic

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expansion for the framework laptop so given that i don't know anything other

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than what that says there i would say i guess we'll see what's next all i know

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for now is that i'm still happy with what framework's doing and i'm pretty

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happy with my upgrade here we started with a pedestrian quad-core CPU and

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upgraded all the way to a 14 core in the

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same chassis i don't think that's ever happened in a mobile device like this

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unlike apple who believe it or not intentionally even though they changed

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almost nothing about the main board design or the chassis prevents

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motherboard swaps between their nearly identical m1 and m2 laptop shelves

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framework on the other hand allowed me to spend hundreds of dollars less than

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what a brand new top spec machine would have cost with all of their newer more

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robust components and i still have these

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leftovers at the end that i can turn into a 3d printed mini pc running an

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11th gen CPU it's a pretty sick little

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setup sick like the segway to our sponsor

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rather than here this is just about the product you already had your hand down yep