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your computer is nothing without the motherboard it carries both power and

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data between every critical system component be it a CPU SSD or lowly

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keyboard if it was a system of the body it would be kind of like your

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circulatory system and your nervous system combined everything plugs into it

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thankfully we've got standards that tell us exactly what goes where which

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uh wait what are these

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and whoa what is this why does the CPU go on the

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back of this one can this really be legal

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only if it's legal to have fun so for fun today we're gonna show you

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guys some wacky standard breaking motherboards and tell you why on earth

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they should even exist in the first place speaking of existing ridge wallet does

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let's kick things off with the portwell peb 9783 g2 ar it's a relatively

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unassuming little board standard micro atx CPU socket memory slots pretty much

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where they're supposed to be this one's a little bit off kilter but then bam look at the rear eye oh

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20 usb ports of which six of them are

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rated for 10 gigabit operation that is a

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ridiculous amount of usb expansion so much that i can't even conceive of a

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legitimate desktop use case for it which is probably for the best since you won't

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be powering this motherboard off of a normal desktop power supply either it

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uses this pair of screw-on power terminals and i have no idea where i'd

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get a power adapter for this thing it did not come with one but ignoring that

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we've got three display outputs along with dual gigabit Ethernet meaning this

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is one hefty boy in terms of io i mean

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you'd think you'd need a beefy CPU like a threadripper with tons of pci express

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lanes to power this thing but in fact you do not it uses xeon branded 10th gen

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core cpus that do get a few extra enterprise features but none of those

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involve additional io it's just the same four lane dmi 3.0 link between the

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chipset here and the CPU just like you'd have on a regular desktop board so some

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back of the napkin math here seems to suggest that the total rated theoretical

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throughput of all these usb ports would be nearly five times greater than the

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bandwidth available between the CPU and chipset so

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uh good luck with that to be fair to portwell here though this thing is not

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intended for balls to the wall transfer speeds at all times and that's reflected

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in how these usb ports are connected to the system with a mixture of chipset

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connected ports and ports connected to as media controllers you can actually

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see these three right here that means that no one controller is going to be

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totally overwhelmed by high speed i o and it means that you can strategically

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connect high speed devices and lower speed devices depending on your needs

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according to portwell this type of board is intended for things like autonomous

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vehicles industrial automation manufacturing robots and things like

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that so lots of cameras and lots of low bandwidth io for controlling servos and

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what have you that use case is exemplified not only by how many usb

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ports the board has but by other things like how many serial ports it's got two

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which can be switched between rs 422 and 485 modes and also this crazy pci

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express 16x connector that's at a 90 degree angle and then also rotated 180

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degrees meaning that this board is designed for some seriously weird

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chassis layouts a lot of support components are actually

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on the rear of the board as well and there are even eight general purpose i o

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pins here somewhere those are very useful for controlling

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simple electronics although i couldn't tell you where they are since they're

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unlabeled and there's no manual available but that's okay you don't need

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a manual to figure out how to wear a dad hat the hardest part is picking the

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right color and design so you can get your dad to help

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wow a dad hat thanks Linus portwell's great but we've got more in our batch of

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weird boards and one of the more well-known ones is the anctech rev q270

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cernia here which is a relatively normal looking motherboard you've got your

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display outputs your type c your dual gigabit Ethernet actually pretty

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impressive rear i o but then you look at the front and like what

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this thing has no CPU socket you'd be forgiven for thinking that maybe the CPU

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is soldered on because there's more to this story because even the chipset is

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missing here it's when we flip around that we see what's really going on here

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the CPU socket and the chipset are just chilling back here like it's no big deal

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but yeah big deal how the heck are you

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supposed to put this thing in a regular case without all kinds of headaches

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mounting your cooler as it turns out this design is specifically made to

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remove headaches that other cooling arrangements can create think about it

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you've got your pc controlling the cnc mill or other connected mega tool and

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there's shards of sawdust fiberglass metal you name it flying all around the

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room that stuff's a recipe for a very bad time if it gets ingested by typical

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air intake fans so if you still want to be able to access your i o your choices

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are to use cable extensions or relocate your cooling to the other side of the

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pcb it's the same story if you're dealing with extremely temperature

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sensitive work equipment or maybe you're near a forage where the intake would be

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inundated with extremely hot air gosh dang forge this way you can more

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easily duck the cooling and potentially operate entirely passively oh and one

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neat little feature is this at mode jumper it's not in the manual but what

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it does is makes it so the pc stays on as long as the power button is active so

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you can have a hard switch like you'd see on a power supply with on or off

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again more of an industrial thing but chunky switches are super satisfying so

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i like it okay that is a niche use case well how

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about something that you might have actually seen before without realizing

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it this bad boy right here is the shenzhen

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zeal all za sk1050 and it has both a

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regular CPU socket and a GeForce gtx

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1050 ti built into it why

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well it's actually billed as a tv motherboard which seems like a poorly

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translated way of saying digital signage and that seems about right not only do

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we have that 1050 ti which is much more capable of 3d acceleration than Intel

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onboard graphics but there are twin lvds

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headers on the motherboard both capable of driving a 1080p display and in fact

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the i o on this thing is spread around in a very unusual way both the left and

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right edges of the board are absolutely brimming with ports so if we assume that

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the CPU is on top then on the right we've got a 19 volt power connector HDMI

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gigabit Ethernet usb 3.0 SATA and audio but wait a second these are some of

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these are internal connectors what's up with SATA and what's this little weird

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SATA labeled block next to it ah yes

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these are cool right these SATA power connectors are common on a lot of

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embedded motherboards because they take external power that means that kind of

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like the atx 12 volt only standard that Intel's been pushing this motherboard is

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responsible for handling all peripheral power usually using an adapter that

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plugs in as a single block into the back of your drive like this one around the

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other side we've got what looks like an HDMI port but is actually an lpc bus

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port for debugging not entirely sure how you'd use it but it's nice that it's

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there and then next to that are SATA power and data ports those lvds

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connectors a usb 3 front panel connector a backlight inverter connector and a

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single usb usb2 header to say that this is non-standard would be like saying

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Linus drops things sometimes wait a minute was this written with alex in

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mind okay you know what whatever it's just it's seriously weird presumably the idea

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is that this would mount to a box in the back of the digital sign and then break

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out into all the connectors that it needs from there and the 1050 ti is in

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there to make sure that it's got enough power to drive whatever animations that

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you're going to run on the displays aside from that there's not much else

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going on with this other than the distinct lack of expansion slots other

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than an m.2 SATA 2240 port and an m.2220

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slot that's marked for wi-fi RAM is handled by ddr4 sodiums and you

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thankfully get two slots stacked on top of each other to play with similar to

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how a thicker laptop might keep a low profile boring

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okay fair enough enough with the industrial boards let's talk about

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something a little bit more practical this little number from pc win max

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well it's pretty normal looking right out of the gate here you've got a pci

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express 16x slot a 1x slot two ddr3 RAM

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slots SATA ports a really poorly placed

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usb 3.0 header and even fairly normal

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rear i o ps2 HDMI vga four usb ports and

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gigabit Ethernet wait are you sure this is a weird board

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i mean have you guys noticed what makes it weird yet

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ah yes it's the socket what is that

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that is pga 989 and what uses it is

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mobile 2nd and 3rd gen Intel core series

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cpus yep we're looking at a desktop board

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that was made for mobile cpus that first launched back in 2011. so you might look

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at this and say well that's got to be some kind of ancient relic of the past

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but if this date code on it is anything to go by it was actually manufactured on

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christmas day in 2018. what gives well

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remember back at computex 2019 when we started seeing new x79 motherboards for

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ivybridge high-end desktop cpus this

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just so happens to coincide with that and my best guess is that these

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components were being recycled around that time and found their way over to

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china where still good components were repurposed to become low-cost options

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for pc builds it makes sense i mean you might have thrown out that old laptop

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with a busted screen and a battery that looks like it ate too much at the buffet

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but the components on the main board were probably still totally fine and we

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saw something very similar recently actually with haswell mobile cpus being

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transplanted into desktop CPU form factors

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this kind of upcycling honestly is kind of awesome and i wish that it happened

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more often unfortunately finding a CPU to match a

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board like this is a little tough by

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third gen most cpus were being soldered directly to the motherboard using ball

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grid arrays rather than pin grid array sockets and the only one that i know for

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sure uses pins is the core i7 3920xm

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which goes for around 130 to 150 on ebay

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worth it considering that i'm not even sure

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they're selling these boards anymore probably not but why don't we take a

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look at what was in the other pc win max box

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okay this is a really weird board

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it says it's itx but it's clearly much smaller than that i mean i can hold it

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in one hand the model number says epic m37 which really doesn't help any you

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certainly won't be installing an epic server CPU on this thing so from what i

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can tell it's a similar concept to the other pc winmax motherboard but a little

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more integrated because you can see if we flip it around ah yes our CPU is now

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soldered and then we've got an additional chipset on here that

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according to the marking seems to suggest it is an hm65 so this is an

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earlier sandy bridge arrow board with a single ddr3 soda on the front and two

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mini PCIe slots one of those is probably SATA only given that the age of this

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chipset means you wouldn't be able to boot from an NVMe drive even if you had

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a compatible SSD oh yeah speaking of chipsets get

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subscribed because we are going to find out once and for all if you really get

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more performance out of a high-end chipset motherboard

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io on this puppy is pretty limited just four usb ports gigabit Ethernet vga and

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HDMI input power is actually

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kind of an unknown here it just says dc jack one

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so just start trying things starting with 12 volt and hope you don't fry it i mean

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it can't require that much juice all it's got on it is

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CPU one stick of RAM maybe a couple mini PCIe devices Ethernet and usb

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okay technically there's SATA power on here as well but that kind of goes

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against the spirit of building with something that's tiny surely you're not

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going to put a big old hard drive in it this one is so tiny that there's not

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much else to say about it the one additional feature that would make it

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interesting is a serial port and unfortunately there isn't one on here so

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it's really just a tiny pc and your guess is as good as mine as to how

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exactly the cooler is supposed to mount to it there's no mounting points for one

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not even for the chipset maybe whatever CPU this is doesn't need one yeah no

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that's definitely that's definitely not right this was but a small taste of

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what's out there guys we had at least three more that we wanted to get in for

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this video that just never arrived like this x79 motherboard with only two RAM

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slots so let us know if some of the weirder motherboards that you've seen

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and maybe we'll circle back and take another shot at this because there is

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no shortage of them out there just like there's no shortage of segways

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if you enjoyed this look at some weird ass motherboards maybe go check out our

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previous video looking at some weird ass gpus

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they were they were very weird