WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.920 this was once a 700 GPU but NVIDIA now 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:10.559 says you know what it's worthless it's garbage 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:15.120 but as they say one man's trash is another man's 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:18.960 treasure and with NVIDIA dropping support for the 700 series and older 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:24.560 gpus are they now effectively e-waste or 00:00:21.840 --> 00:00:29.679 could this be an opportunity to score a deal as people rush to dump their old 00:00:27.439 --> 00:00:36.239 graphics cards i mean surely this thing can still game right 00:00:33.360 --> 00:00:41.120 the answer may surprise you though not as much as my segue to our sponsor will 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:45.040 surprise you ridge wallet has redefined the traditional wallet with its compact 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:48.160 frame and rfid blocking plates keep your wallet bulge down and use offer code 00:00:46.640 --> 00:00:52.760 Linus to save 10 and get free worldwide shipping 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:06.159 that's right ladies and gentlemen as of august this year NVIDIA will not be 00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:10.880 providing any more game-ready drivers for their kepler architecture-based 00:01:08.080 --> 00:01:16.799 cards so that's most of their 600 series and 700 series cards all the way from 00:01:12.960 --> 00:01:17.600 the gt630 up to the titan black 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:23.200 so that doesn't mean that these cards suddenly can't run video games though 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:28.720 why don't we take a look at kind of a middle of the road kepler card like this 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:31.520 gtx 760 winforce you can snag a card 00:01:28.720 --> 00:01:37.200 like this for as low as around 70 on ebay and if you guys are thinking 00:01:35.360 --> 00:01:41.680 i mean who would still be running one of those no one uses those anymore well 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:46.960 then you're being a bit of an elitist douche because steam's hardware survey 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:50.960 shows that the 760 is still being used by .25 00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:55.600 of users that doesn't really sound like a lot until you consider that that only 00:01:52.880 --> 00:02:03.840 puts it a few slots lower than the rtx 3090 also consider that steem had 120 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.920 million active users as of last year so 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:10.479 even if only half of them agreed to the hardware survey that's still a hundred 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:15.520 and fifty thousand steam users who are running gtx 760s so one of the most 00:02:13.040 --> 00:02:20.000 compelling use cases for a budget GPU like this is to take your existing 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:24.400 pre-built throw a few bucks at a graphics card and boom turn it into a 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:28.640 gaming rig the only thing you're gonna have to consider is that this one uses 00:02:26.720 --> 00:02:34.160 an eight pin and a six pin power connector so that's a little more than 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:38.640 the reference card's dual six pins and it'll need about 107 watts of power 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:41.840 which means you might need a power supply upgrade if you were to install 00:02:40.239 --> 00:02:47.519 one of these in a pre-built because they typically have very tight power budgets 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:49.440 not to mention tight cases so make sure 00:02:47.519 --> 00:02:53.440 you've got enough space for this long ass shroud so there's some challenges to 00:02:51.519 --> 00:02:57.360 overcome but you gotta ask yourself what are your other options if you're looking 00:02:55.280 --> 00:03:01.440 to save a buck you can get a last generation console like an xbox one or 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:06.879 playstation 4 but those are still selling in the 200 to 250 range so 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:11.280 assuming you have some kind of computer already 00:03:08.480 --> 00:03:16.080 this could be a fantastic option if you just want to game yeah cs go might be a 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:21.360 9 year old game but as of today it is still the top played game on steam so 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:25.440 it's hardly irrelevant and you can see yeah we're running at 1080p but we've 00:03:22.959 --> 00:03:29.760 got this game maxed out in excess of 100 frames per second and that's with our 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:33.680 5600x CPU handling all these bot simulations this is 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.640 not a real match so we're just going to turn everything 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:43.680 down there we go now we're getting 250 300 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:46.239 350 frames per second look at that we 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:51.440 can watch me die at 200 FPS we've got everything cranked to low now and it's 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:54.159 flipping fly in here oh wow it doesn't mean i can aim 00:03:52.799 --> 00:04:00.700 please die how are you still alive whatever 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:02.640 there but really again again 00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:09.840 of course one game doesn't prove anything so here's rocket league running 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.519 at 1080p uh i mean we're running at 200 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:15.280 FPS here dog they're not gonna get nothing because 00:04:13.040 --> 00:04:18.639 they don't have a hundred and oh shoot i forgot to shift 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:23.360 wow that was really awkward okay then esports games maxed out 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:28.400 absolutely no problem but that's not exactly a surprise both of these games 00:04:25.840 --> 00:04:32.639 are from around the same era as the 700 series graphics cards not to mention 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:38.639 that esports titles are generally tuned to run on the widest range of computers 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.680 possible so 180 FPS absolutely maxed out 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:47.120 in this game yeah but yeah there's all medium presets 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:53.600 running at right around 50 FPS on the fairly busy monaco map i mean it's not 00:04:49.520 --> 00:04:54.880 like f1 2020 is the most challenging aaa 00:04:53.600 --> 00:05:00.720 game but i mean hey it's a modern game and it's 00:04:57.440 --> 00:05:02.240 running fine just fine at least until i 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:07.360 break it there you go unfortunately the same is not 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:09.360 necessarily true in every game turning 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:16.320 apex legends up to high with anti-aliasing enabled at 1080p 00:05:12.320 --> 00:05:19.280 we are looking at about 35 FPS and this 00:05:16.320 --> 00:05:25.840 is on the training map not an actual larger map with other characters running 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:27.680 around causing problems for your FPS's 00:05:25.840 --> 00:05:32.880 which isn't to say we can't get the game running reasonably smoothly we are now 00:05:29.520 --> 00:05:36.160 at 50 55 FPS 00:05:32.880 --> 00:05:39.600 the difference is that unlike f1 2020 we 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:40.880 had to absolutely dump all of our 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:44.720 settings so you're gonna see weird stuff like this 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:48.880 mountain appearing to be made out of clay and the thing about a competitive 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:52.080 game like this is that having a better graphics card is about more than just 00:05:50.320 --> 00:05:55.600 smoother animations if you've got objects and textures just popping in the 00:05:54.479 --> 00:06:00.639 way your caveman eyeballs work is you're naturally watching out for motion in 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:05.600 your peripheral vision so you're going to be walking around on the map and you're going to have things going like 00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:09.680 look like holy smokes that had me over there and then it's not it's just a rock 00:06:07.919 --> 00:06:13.440 take that rocks i got no ammo we managed to hit anywhere 00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:18.720 from 70 to 90 FPS by dropping down to 1600 by 900 00:06:16.960 --> 00:06:23.199 but by this point this is looking like a game from like 10 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:27.919 years ago moving into an even more demanding aaa game do maternal 00:06:26.080 --> 00:06:31.520 was a bit of a weird one when we booted it up it actually defaulted to ultra 00:06:29.840 --> 00:06:36.960 nightmare even though you can see that clearly that vastly exceeds the mere two 00:06:34.960 --> 00:06:41.919 gigabytes of vram that are available on our gtx 760. and in fact if we dump it 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:48.479 all the way down to low we are still 900 megabytes over our 00:06:45.440 --> 00:06:50.319 budget which leads us to kind of an 00:06:48.479 --> 00:06:54.880 interesting point we'll talk about what we wait for the game to load these cards 00:06:52.319 --> 00:07:00.240 started coming out around 2013 and that was long before 4k gaming was a real 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:05.520 consideration and long before games needed more than two or three gigs of 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:08.479 vram that's right even the top-end 00:07:05.520 --> 00:07:13.919 consumer card the 780 ti only ever shipped with three gigs of video memory 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:14.720 you had to step up to a titan to get six 00:07:13.919 --> 00:07:20.000 so it's probably enough for the kinds of titles that you would play on these 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:24.720 cards but it's clearly going to become more and 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:28.560 more of an issue in modern games that have far more aggressive vram 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:34.880 requirements so we're getting 25 24 oh as we come around 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:38.720 this corner you can see we're dropping all the way down to mid 20s frames per 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:46.240 second yeah in a fast-paced shooter like this this is not a great experience 19 FPS i 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:50.400 saw a drop down to i'm not it's not even registering my 00:07:48.080 --> 00:07:55.039 clicks sometimes and remember this is like the first level so there's no way 00:07:53.039 --> 00:07:58.479 that you're playing at a high difficulty in like the later levels like this this 00:07:56.800 --> 00:08:02.319 is not um this is not a very good experience 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:07.759 so okay you're not playing do maternal but 00:08:05.919 --> 00:08:12.879 still a lot of game left in this thing and the 760 is not even the highest end 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:19.039 card that NVIDIA has dropped game ready driver support for now let's chuck on a 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:22.319 780 ti and see how that goes 00:08:19.039 --> 00:08:25.280 now you might think that's a 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:29.599 lot to spend on a whole GPU that's not getting any new drivers but with a 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:34.640 little bit of patience a 780 ti can be had for as little as around 150 to 160 00:08:32.640 --> 00:08:40.080 us dollars and it's a lot faster like in some 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:45.440 situations it can be as much as 60 faster than the 760 that we just looked 00:08:42.719 --> 00:08:49.519 at obviously if cs go and rocket league run great on the little brother the 780 00:08:47.839 --> 00:08:54.399 ti is not going to struggle with them so let's start with f1 2020 where 00:08:51.839 --> 00:08:59.519 confusingly we're running at just about exactly the same frame rate high 40s low 00:08:58.160 --> 00:09:05.200 50s ah except for one small detail 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:09.680 f1 2020 automatically detected that we were running a better card and cranked 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:12.640 everything to ultra that's right my friends 00:09:10.640 --> 00:09:16.560 anti-aliasing is on super ultra high details are on so all 00:09:15.040 --> 00:09:19.600 the shadows are looking as good as they can look and it doesn't look that 00:09:18.160 --> 00:09:24.560 different but there's definitely fewer jaggies so 00:09:22.560 --> 00:09:30.000 that's that's an absolute benefit let's throw it at medium there we go not 00:09:27.760 --> 00:09:36.480 freaking bad running at the same detail settings as before we are now at 90 FPS 00:09:33.920 --> 00:09:42.640 and yeah that is markedly smoother as for doom eternal it's a lot better 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.640 than it was i mean this is 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:51.920 it can run the game you know there's your 80 90 FPS 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:54.800 but as soon as 00:09:51.920 --> 00:10:00.480 even though technically we squeeze in under the vram requirements for all low 00:09:58.880 --> 00:10:06.000 you can tell it's struggling yeah it's the it's the 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:10.720 rapid swings between you know really honestly good frame 00:10:07.760 --> 00:10:13.680 rates or like 80 90 FPS and just 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:18.320 tank like close to 20 FPS 00:10:16.800 --> 00:10:21.519 it plays well enough that i kind of forgot i was evaluating graphics cards 00:10:20.160 --> 00:10:26.000 since just started playing the game so that's that's it that's the threshold 00:10:24.079 --> 00:10:30.839 it's playable since we've had some more success why don't we kick things up a 00:10:27.680 --> 00:10:34.000 notch here and try dirt five 00:10:30.839 --> 00:10:34.959 and cannot find a compatible graphics 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:39.760 card the reason for this is that the 700 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:45.519 series while they have support for directx 12 they do not fully support the 00:10:42.800 --> 00:10:50.800 entire directx 12 feature set which unfortunately is the minimum graphics 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:56.720 API available in dirt 5. so if you look at the dirt 5 minimum specs they 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:59.120 actually call for a gtx 970 or better 00:10:56.720 --> 00:11:03.680 and that's a real consideration for something like this because as directx 00:11:00.959 --> 00:11:08.640 12 becomes more ubiquitous certain games like dirt 5 may simply stop supporting 00:11:07.040 --> 00:11:12.399 lower versions now esports games as i mentioned before 00:11:10.640 --> 00:11:17.200 designed to run on the widest variety of hardware possible so it's likely they'll 00:11:14.560 --> 00:11:23.440 support these older apis for quite a while longer so if cs go or valrant is 00:11:20.800 --> 00:11:27.440 your jam these older cards could be pretty appealing 00:11:24.880 --> 00:11:32.640 let's try something else like civ6 that's not bad for medium details 2x 00:11:29.680 --> 00:11:36.640 anti-aliasing i mean depending on how busy the scene is or anywhere from 100 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:40.800 to like 60 70 FPS that's 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:43.920 that's very respectable i mean we could probably turn this up it's not like this 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:48.880 is a fast-paced game or anything no offensive 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:52.320 enthusiasts i'm sure you're like going all the actions per 00:11:50.959 --> 00:11:57.360 minute let's turn it to high though 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:59.200 okay that dropped us down to like 45 FPS 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:04.160 when things get busy but in a game like this that is absolutely playable 00:12:01.760 --> 00:12:08.959 absolutely and the shadow details are way better 00:12:05.839 --> 00:12:11.120 even though control calls for a gtx 780 00:12:08.959 --> 00:12:17.120 as its minimum graphics card we are running it like 00:12:12.800 --> 00:12:18.639 well 60 FPS at pretty decent details on 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:23.040 a 780 ti okay that makes sense i mean the 00:12:20.880 --> 00:12:27.120 developer did say it'll run on this so yeah they can still game which means 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:30.560 what then we should be outraged in videos dropping game ready driver 00:12:28.800 --> 00:12:34.800 support for these well 00:12:31.839 --> 00:12:40.160 not quite we got to remember NVIDIA has supported cards like the 700 series for 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:43.839 the better part of eight years which in a world where Android phone 00:12:41.920 --> 00:12:47.680 manufacturers will drop support in as little as two years makes NVIDIA look 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:52.160 like absolute rock stars i mean yeah a graphics driver 00:12:50.079 --> 00:12:57.120 is likely less complicated than an entire operating system but i still say 00:12:54.800 --> 00:13:01.600 they're doing pretty darn good and there are some real world actual reasons for 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:05.839 them to drop support for these cards we already saw a couple of them in the form 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:10.320 of the vram limitations i mean that's just the hardware on the card they just 00:13:07.839 --> 00:13:14.240 can't keep up and API limitations where modern games are simply not going to be 00:13:12.800 --> 00:13:17.680 able to run on them also there are some reasons that it 00:13:15.920 --> 00:13:22.200 might not be practical to continue to run these cards the 780 ti for example 00:13:20.800 --> 00:13:28.720 draws about 250 watts which doesn't sound like a ton 00:13:25.760 --> 00:13:35.040 compared to something like an rtx 3090 at 350 watts but you should also 00:13:31.680 --> 00:13:37.760 consider that a much newer gtx 1060 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:42.560 which is roughly performance comparable and actually even faster in some cases 00:13:40.079 --> 00:13:46.720 draws less than half that amount of power 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:48.800 now at the moment gtx 1066 gig cards may 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:54.880 be a bit price inflated due to crypto mining but you can get a 3 gig card for 00:13:50.959 --> 00:13:57.600 around 180 to 200 us dollars that is 20 00:13:54.880 --> 00:14:01.199 to 50 dollars more than a 780 ti but when you consider the power savings it 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:06.079 could actually be cheaper in the long run for example let's say you play for 00:14:03.839 --> 00:14:10.000 two hours a day five days a week and you pay on average 22 cents per kilowatt 00:14:08.160 --> 00:14:15.040 hour because you live in let's say los angeles over the span of a year a 1060 00:14:12.880 --> 00:14:19.279 would save you around 14 dollars in power and that could be even more if you 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:22.560 gain more often or if you pay more for your power 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:26.560 14 doesn't sound like a lot but give it three years and you have basically paid 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:31.040 the difference and the entire time you've had game ready drivers along with 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:36.959 a host of other benefits 10 series cards have HDMI 2.0 which means they can do 4k 00:14:33.839 --> 00:14:39.360 60 over HDMI they've got displayport 1.4 00:14:36.959 --> 00:14:44.560 which can handle up to 4k 144 hertz they've got support for freesync which 00:14:41.920 --> 00:14:50.240 the 700 series does support g-sync but does not support freesync not to mention 00:14:47.199 --> 00:14:52.720 that while the 700 series also has nvinc 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:58.480 the 10 series has a more feature-rich end bank encoder with support for h.265 00:14:55.519 --> 00:15:02.160 better color and higher resolution so if you're just using your graphics card 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:06.240 to encode a live stream it probably won't make a difference but if you're 00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:11.600 into editing your videos after the fact or creating HDR or high resolution 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:16.399 content that might matter to you with all of that in mind though the 00:15:13.839 --> 00:15:19.600 actual driver cutoff hasn't happened yet so if you're looking for a deal on a GPU 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.079 today these kepler cards aren't a terrible 00:15:21.760 --> 00:15:28.800 idea if that price premium for a use 10 series just isn't in your budget but 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:33.279 keep in mind that the prices will likely continue to drop once NVIDIA actually 00:15:30.959 --> 00:15:38.000 cuts off support in august of this year so in particular if you were looking for 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:40.720 you know a secondary rig to you know land with when your friends when they 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:45.279 come over yeah a sunsetted kepler card could look 00:15:43.199 --> 00:15:49.360 like a pretty good deal and as for the folks out there who are 00:15:46.959 --> 00:15:53.440 already running a kepler-based GPU if you can't afford to step up to something 00:15:50.959 --> 00:15:58.000 like a 1060 does the lack of game ready drivers mean that you're just sol 00:15:55.920 --> 00:16:02.399 well not necessarily i mean we just showed you guys these cards can totally 00:15:59.920 --> 00:16:07.759 still gain and NVIDIA will still be providing security updates as needed for 00:16:04.880 --> 00:16:12.000 the time being so it doesn't suddenly turn your GPU into a brick because you 00:16:09.680 --> 00:16:17.279 don't get a game-ready driver in fact a lot of the time older gpus that NVIDIA 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:21.199 has already deprecated can still play a fair number of lightweight modern games 00:16:19.680 --> 00:16:25.040 as long as you turn the settings down and in fact we're going to be testing 00:16:22.959 --> 00:16:29.759 out exactly what that's like in a future video so make sure you get subscribed 00:16:28.160 --> 00:16:34.079 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