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this was once a 700 GPU but NVIDIA now

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says you know what it's worthless it's garbage

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but as they say one man's trash is another man's

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treasure and with NVIDIA dropping support for the 700 series and older

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gpus are they now effectively e-waste or

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could this be an opportunity to score a deal as people rush to dump their old

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graphics cards i mean surely this thing can still game right

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that's right ladies and gentlemen as of august this year NVIDIA will not be

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providing any more game-ready drivers for their kepler architecture-based

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cards so that's most of their 600 series and 700 series cards all the way from

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the gt630 up to the titan black

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so that doesn't mean that these cards suddenly can't run video games though

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why don't we take a look at kind of a middle of the road kepler card like this

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gtx 760 winforce you can snag a card

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like this for as low as around 70 on ebay and if you guys are thinking

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i mean who would still be running one of those no one uses those anymore well

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then you're being a bit of an elitist douche because steam's hardware survey

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shows that the 760 is still being used by .25

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of users that doesn't really sound like a lot until you consider that that only

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puts it a few slots lower than the rtx 3090 also consider that steem had 120

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million active users as of last year so

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even if only half of them agreed to the hardware survey that's still a hundred

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and fifty thousand steam users who are running gtx 760s so one of the most

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compelling use cases for a budget GPU like this is to take your existing

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pre-built throw a few bucks at a graphics card and boom turn it into a

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gaming rig the only thing you're gonna have to consider is that this one uses

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an eight pin and a six pin power connector so that's a little more than

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the reference card's dual six pins and it'll need about 107 watts of power

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which means you might need a power supply upgrade if you were to install

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one of these in a pre-built because they typically have very tight power budgets

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not to mention tight cases so make sure

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you've got enough space for this long ass shroud so there's some challenges to

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overcome but you gotta ask yourself what are your other options if you're looking

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to save a buck you can get a last generation console like an xbox one or

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playstation 4 but those are still selling in the 200 to 250 range so

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assuming you have some kind of computer already

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this could be a fantastic option if you just want to game yeah cs go might be a

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9 year old game but as of today it is still the top played game on steam so

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it's hardly irrelevant and you can see yeah we're running at 1080p but we've

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got this game maxed out in excess of 100 frames per second and that's with our

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5600x CPU handling all these bot simulations this is

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not a real match so we're just going to turn everything

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down there we go now we're getting 250 300

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350 frames per second look at that we

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can watch me die at 200 FPS we've got everything cranked to low now and it's

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flipping fly in here oh wow it doesn't mean i can aim

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please die how are you still alive whatever

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there but really again again

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of course one game doesn't prove anything so here's rocket league running

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at 1080p uh i mean we're running at 200

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FPS here dog they're not gonna get nothing because

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they don't have a hundred and oh shoot i forgot to shift

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wow that was really awkward okay then esports games maxed out

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absolutely no problem but that's not exactly a surprise both of these games

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are from around the same era as the 700 series graphics cards not to mention

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that esports titles are generally tuned to run on the widest range of computers

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possible so 180 FPS absolutely maxed out

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in this game yeah but yeah there's all medium presets

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running at right around 50 FPS on the fairly busy monaco map i mean it's not

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like f1 2020 is the most challenging aaa

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game but i mean hey it's a modern game and it's

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running fine just fine at least until i

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break it there you go unfortunately the same is not

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necessarily true in every game turning

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apex legends up to high with anti-aliasing enabled at 1080p

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we are looking at about 35 FPS and this

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is on the training map not an actual larger map with other characters running

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around causing problems for your FPS's

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which isn't to say we can't get the game running reasonably smoothly we are now

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at 50 55 FPS

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the difference is that unlike f1 2020 we

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had to absolutely dump all of our

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settings so you're gonna see weird stuff like this

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mountain appearing to be made out of clay and the thing about a competitive

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game like this is that having a better graphics card is about more than just

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smoother animations if you've got objects and textures just popping in the

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way your caveman eyeballs work is you're naturally watching out for motion in

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your peripheral vision so you're going to be walking around on the map and you're going to have things going like

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look like holy smokes that had me over there and then it's not it's just a rock

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take that rocks i got no ammo we managed to hit anywhere

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from 70 to 90 FPS by dropping down to 1600 by 900

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but by this point this is looking like a game from like 10

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years ago moving into an even more demanding aaa game do maternal

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was a bit of a weird one when we booted it up it actually defaulted to ultra

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nightmare even though you can see that clearly that vastly exceeds the mere two

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gigabytes of vram that are available on our gtx 760. and in fact if we dump it

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all the way down to low we are still 900 megabytes over our

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budget which leads us to kind of an

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interesting point we'll talk about what we wait for the game to load these cards

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started coming out around 2013 and that was long before 4k gaming was a real

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consideration and long before games needed more than two or three gigs of

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vram that's right even the top-end

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consumer card the 780 ti only ever shipped with three gigs of video memory

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you had to step up to a titan to get six

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so it's probably enough for the kinds of titles that you would play on these

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cards but it's clearly going to become more and

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more of an issue in modern games that have far more aggressive vram

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requirements so we're getting 25 24 oh as we come around

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this corner you can see we're dropping all the way down to mid 20s frames per

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second yeah in a fast-paced shooter like this this is not a great experience 19 FPS i

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saw a drop down to i'm not it's not even registering my

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clicks sometimes and remember this is like the first level so there's no way

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that you're playing at a high difficulty in like the later levels like this this

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is not um this is not a very good experience

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so okay you're not playing do maternal but

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still a lot of game left in this thing and the 760 is not even the highest end

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card that NVIDIA has dropped game ready driver support for now let's chuck on a

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780 ti and see how that goes

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now you might think that's a

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lot to spend on a whole GPU that's not getting any new drivers but with a

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little bit of patience a 780 ti can be had for as little as around 150 to 160

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us dollars and it's a lot faster like in some

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situations it can be as much as 60 faster than the 760 that we just looked

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at obviously if cs go and rocket league run great on the little brother the 780

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ti is not going to struggle with them so let's start with f1 2020 where

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confusingly we're running at just about exactly the same frame rate high 40s low

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50s ah except for one small detail

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f1 2020 automatically detected that we were running a better card and cranked

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everything to ultra that's right my friends

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anti-aliasing is on super ultra high details are on so all

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the shadows are looking as good as they can look and it doesn't look that

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different but there's definitely fewer jaggies so

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that's that's an absolute benefit let's throw it at medium there we go not

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freaking bad running at the same detail settings as before we are now at 90 FPS

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and yeah that is markedly smoother as for doom eternal it's a lot better

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than it was i mean this is

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it can run the game you know there's your 80 90 FPS

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but as soon as

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even though technically we squeeze in under the vram requirements for all low

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you can tell it's struggling yeah it's the it's the

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rapid swings between you know really honestly good frame

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rates or like 80 90 FPS and just

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tank like close to 20 FPS

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it plays well enough that i kind of forgot i was evaluating graphics cards

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since just started playing the game so that's that's it that's the threshold

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it's playable since we've had some more success why don't we kick things up a

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notch here and try dirt five

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and cannot find a compatible graphics

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card the reason for this is that the 700

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series while they have support for directx 12 they do not fully support the

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entire directx 12 feature set which unfortunately is the minimum graphics

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API available in dirt 5. so if you look at the dirt 5 minimum specs they

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actually call for a gtx 970 or better

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and that's a real consideration for something like this because as directx

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12 becomes more ubiquitous certain games like dirt 5 may simply stop supporting

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lower versions now esports games as i mentioned before

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designed to run on the widest variety of hardware possible so it's likely they'll

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support these older apis for quite a while longer so if cs go or valrant is

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your jam these older cards could be pretty appealing

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let's try something else like civ6 that's not bad for medium details 2x

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anti-aliasing i mean depending on how busy the scene is or anywhere from 100

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to like 60 70 FPS that's

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that's very respectable i mean we could probably turn this up it's not like this

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is a fast-paced game or anything no offensive

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enthusiasts i'm sure you're like going all the actions per

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minute let's turn it to high though

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okay that dropped us down to like 45 FPS

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when things get busy but in a game like this that is absolutely playable

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absolutely and the shadow details are way better

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even though control calls for a gtx 780

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as its minimum graphics card we are running it like

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well 60 FPS at pretty decent details on

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a 780 ti okay that makes sense i mean the

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developer did say it'll run on this so yeah they can still game which means

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what then we should be outraged in videos dropping game ready driver

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support for these well

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not quite we got to remember NVIDIA has supported cards like the 700 series for

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the better part of eight years which in a world where Android phone

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manufacturers will drop support in as little as two years makes NVIDIA look

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like absolute rock stars i mean yeah a graphics driver

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is likely less complicated than an entire operating system but i still say

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they're doing pretty darn good and there are some real world actual reasons for

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them to drop support for these cards we already saw a couple of them in the form

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of the vram limitations i mean that's just the hardware on the card they just

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can't keep up and API limitations where modern games are simply not going to be

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able to run on them also there are some reasons that it

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might not be practical to continue to run these cards the 780 ti for example

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draws about 250 watts which doesn't sound like a ton

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compared to something like an rtx 3090 at 350 watts but you should also

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consider that a much newer gtx 1060

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which is roughly performance comparable and actually even faster in some cases

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draws less than half that amount of power

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now at the moment gtx 1066 gig cards may

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be a bit price inflated due to crypto mining but you can get a 3 gig card for

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around 180 to 200 us dollars that is 20

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to 50 dollars more than a 780 ti but when you consider the power savings it

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could actually be cheaper in the long run for example let's say you play for

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two hours a day five days a week and you pay on average 22 cents per kilowatt

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hour because you live in let's say los angeles over the span of a year a 1060

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would save you around 14 dollars in power and that could be even more if you

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gain more often or if you pay more for your power

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14 doesn't sound like a lot but give it three years and you have basically paid

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the difference and the entire time you've had game ready drivers along with

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a host of other benefits 10 series cards have HDMI 2.0 which means they can do 4k

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60 over HDMI they've got displayport 1.4

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which can handle up to 4k 144 hertz they've got support for freesync which

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the 700 series does support g-sync but does not support freesync not to mention

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that while the 700 series also has nvinc

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the 10 series has a more feature-rich end bank encoder with support for h.265

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better color and higher resolution so if you're just using your graphics card

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to encode a live stream it probably won't make a difference but if you're

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into editing your videos after the fact or creating HDR or high resolution

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content that might matter to you with all of that in mind though the

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actual driver cutoff hasn't happened yet so if you're looking for a deal on a GPU

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today these kepler cards aren't a terrible

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idea if that price premium for a use 10 series just isn't in your budget but

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keep in mind that the prices will likely continue to drop once NVIDIA actually

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cuts off support in august of this year so in particular if you were looking for

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you know a secondary rig to you know land with when your friends when they

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come over yeah a sunsetted kepler card could look

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like a pretty good deal and as for the folks out there who are

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already running a kepler-based GPU if you can't afford to step up to something

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like a 1060 does the lack of game ready drivers mean that you're just sol

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well not necessarily i mean we just showed you guys these cards can totally

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still gain and NVIDIA will still be providing security updates as needed for

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the time being so it doesn't suddenly turn your GPU into a brick because you

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don't get a game-ready driver in fact a lot of the time older gpus that NVIDIA

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has already deprecated can still play a fair number of lightweight modern games

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as long as you turn the settings down and in fact we're going to be testing

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