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so the general wisdom these days seems to be that if you want to save a buck

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and build a gaming rig AMD is the way to go but

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what does that mean exactly like AMD's for poor people who can't afford

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Intel well at a very high price point you

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could make that argument i mean remember we're talking about gaming here where

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Intel's top spec chips do outperform

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AMD's but most people aren't buying top of the

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line computers and that doesn't mean that they're poor

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it just means they want a good value so we designed today's challenge to find

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out if AMD's performance deficit can be

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overcome by its advantages which include

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less expensive cpus and motherboards and

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included overclocking support all the way up and down the ryzen lineup and i

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think you guys are going to find our results really surprising no matter what you

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were expecting i certainly did

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today for your chance to win so we're gonna start things off right

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with a head-to-head off basically here's how it's going to go

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down using pc part picker Anthony and i

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are each going to put together the best build we can one for each side with a

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budget of 750 us dollars before taxes

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and shipping and a big list of

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requirements we both want to be able to overclock if

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not now then later on we're both going to need at least one

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terabyte of storage and eight gigs of RAM and we both want at least a 500 watt

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power supply with 80 plus braun certification

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so here we go then

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first order of business is going to be the CPU both of us know that we need

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something reasonably powerful but because of the overclocking stipulation

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Anthony's going to get a big discount by going with AMD because all desktop ryzen

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processors are unlocked thankfully the core i3 8350k isn't too

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expensive also because AMD's mid-tier chipset

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enables overclocking i can save money by going with a b series motherboard not

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the cheapest one mind you because overclocking is a consideration i'll

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want a board with decent vrms of course my k-series chip also doesn't

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come with a cooler which means i need to drop yet more of my precious budget on

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one of those wow this is starting to add up really

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quickly knowing Anthony's going for higher speed memory i can claw back a bit of my

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budget by going with a less expensive kit unfortunately that does mean that the

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per thread performance gap is going to close between us which is something i

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can't really afford pardon the pun for storage this hitachi one terabyte drive

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is a no-brainer there are cheaper one terabyte drives but none are 7200 RPM

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i'm also going to pick up this diy pc case and a rosewill arc 650 watt power

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supply it's not the best quality unit but for 40 dollars it's 80 plus bronze

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and has a three year warranty on to the graphics card i really don't have much

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money left to spend here and this is probably where i'm gonna get killed

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i can only hope that Anthony isn't very good at putting together value builds

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okay you just about ready there Linus it's been a while yeah i think i'm done

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you good yep and with that

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our builds are complete so pencils down

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time to compare ooh

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yeah i think i win well it's okay it's not about whether

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you win or lose it's is it more about how you play the game oh okay well i

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think i played better gaming um

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so we've got a lot in common we're both only spending 20 25 bucks on our cases

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yeah um roseville power supply yeah you got

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the same hitachi hard drive as well the graphics card's gonna kill me

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honestly i could almost afford an rtx except i

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couldn't right and i've only got a quad core processor

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because your CPU is only five bucks more even though it's only a quad core but

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like it's a faster quad core than it is than the ryzen cores so it's the 45

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on the board and the cooler that are costing me that

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GPU upgrade yeah and your RAM is cheaper too yeah i probably should have gone

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dual channel it didn't make that much of a difference so here's the thing

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requiring overclocking capability

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isn't really fair in the sense that Intel can deliver

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much better performance per dollar outside of their k series overclockable

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chips even if those limitations are entirely

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their own doing so let's actually work together then and

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modify the blue team build to try and get a little bit closer to that bang for

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the buck shall we sure basically CPU's got to go yeah and

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i think you can get like an 8 400 out of that

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8400 is such an underrated CPU 64

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reviews is all it's got the value is entirely there yeah it's outstanding so

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that means i don't need a cooler anymore you can kill that i don't need a z

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series board anymore yep you can go with a i would say b360 so now you should be

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able to afford the 2060. okay so

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with the Intel build now running a more reasonable b series chipset because we

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can't overclock anyway we're able to get both a more powerful CPU and GPU so

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that's six cores now and an rtx 2060. so

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with this modification then our specs actually even out significantly

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but it's worth noting that any edge the

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Intel system gets in its stock performance in games

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may be offset at least partially by AMD's unlocked core multiplier and

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higher thread count depending on the workload

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so now what well why don't i throw a couple of benches together and see if i

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can't figure out what the performance difference is between these oh so we're not just going to do this theoretical

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we're going to build these rigs and see what happens yeah i like it

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after an afternoon of prep our performance results came out to be

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pretty interesting as you can see our first builds are really different but

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while our AMD machine is way out ahead thanks to its powerful rtx 2060 graphics

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card Intel does pull up close in some

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less GPU bound cases and in cs go

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even manages to pull ahead though it should be noted that this game is

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notorious for performing much better on Intel

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when we overclocked our first builds all those extra threads on AMD's processor

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added up to a lot of oomph and since our graphics card was a little bottlenecked

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at stock this translated to a nice increase in gaming performance so AMD

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beat out Intel by about six percent overall with that said our overclocked

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Intel machine on average beat our stock AMD system's rtx numbers not bad for a

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gtx 1660. moving along we've got our adjusted

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builds so remember our AMD machine saved a few bucks on the motherboard and our

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Intel one jumps up to a core i5 8400 and

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rtx 2060 but loses its overclocking

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capability so here Intel is top dog for performance

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with neither machine overclocked but then gets edged out by our overclocked

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AMD machine this is proving to be a much closer race than we could have possibly

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hoped and it gets even more interesting

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when we look at the value proposition for our original configurations despite

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very decent performance levels and a lower price tag the Intel build ends up

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delivering poorer performance per dollar than our AMD one both at stock speeds

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and when both of them are overclocked now our Intel build ended up a little

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bit cheaper though because we had some budget left over

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just not enough for anything that would impact performance like an rtx upgrade

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so if you were building this box at home and didn't have a hard and fast 750

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limit the story might be a little bit different

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but we are operating within the constraints that we set and AMD came out

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ahead at this price point as for the adjusted builds this puts

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Intel's value at the closest to parity out of all of our comparisons

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but then when we compare it against our AMD builds overclocked numbers it again

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gets edged out and i guess it's that that word that

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keeps coming up edged that is kind of the most interesting

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takeaway here so as it turns out go figure neither AMD

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nor Intel's product management departments are staffed by sea sponges

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and every rig from both teams regardless

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of overclocking ended up being within about

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five percent in terms of the performance

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per dollar like it's almost like AMD's pricing structure is designed to

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maximize their profits while slightly undercutting Intel but not so much that

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they have to react and drop their pricing and like Intel's is designed to

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demand a small premium because of their more recognizable brand

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truly fascinating isn't it i actually i honestly did not expect it to be this

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close no like when we set out for this what was

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the what was your expectation i was expecting AMD to just cream Intel at the

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low end and then when we you know adjusted them i would expect Intel to

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cream AMD because it's roughly the same price and

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and you had six cores of more gaming

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optimized single threaded performance like it yeah

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so i don't know we

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we ended up with a result that wasn't what we were going for but we certainly

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had a lot of fun with it and let us know in the comments below if you'd like to

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