so the general wisdom these days seems to be that if you want to save a buck
and build a gaming rig AMD is the way to go but
what does that mean exactly like AMD's for poor people who can't afford
Intel well at a very high price point you
could make that argument i mean remember we're talking about gaming here where
Intel's top spec chips do outperform
AMD's but most people aren't buying top of the
line computers and that doesn't mean that they're poor
it just means they want a good value so we designed today's challenge to find
out if AMD's performance deficit can be
overcome by its advantages which include
less expensive cpus and motherboards and
included overclocking support all the way up and down the ryzen lineup and i
think you guys are going to find our results really surprising no matter what you
were expecting i certainly did
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today for your chance to win so we're gonna start things off right
with a head-to-head off basically here's how it's going to go
down using pc part picker Anthony and i
are each going to put together the best build we can one for each side with a
budget of 750 us dollars before taxes
and shipping and a big list of
requirements we both want to be able to overclock if
not now then later on we're both going to need at least one
terabyte of storage and eight gigs of RAM and we both want at least a 500 watt
power supply with 80 plus braun certification
so here we go then
first order of business is going to be the CPU both of us know that we need
something reasonably powerful but because of the overclocking stipulation
Anthony's going to get a big discount by going with AMD because all desktop ryzen
processors are unlocked thankfully the core i3 8350k isn't too
expensive also because AMD's mid-tier chipset
enables overclocking i can save money by going with a b series motherboard not
the cheapest one mind you because overclocking is a consideration i'll
want a board with decent vrms of course my k-series chip also doesn't
come with a cooler which means i need to drop yet more of my precious budget on
one of those wow this is starting to add up really
quickly knowing Anthony's going for higher speed memory i can claw back a bit of my
budget by going with a less expensive kit unfortunately that does mean that the
per thread performance gap is going to close between us which is something i
can't really afford pardon the pun for storage this hitachi one terabyte drive
is a no-brainer there are cheaper one terabyte drives but none are 7200 RPM
i'm also going to pick up this diy pc case and a rosewill arc 650 watt power
supply it's not the best quality unit but for 40 dollars it's 80 plus bronze
and has a three year warranty on to the graphics card i really don't have much
money left to spend here and this is probably where i'm gonna get killed
i can only hope that Anthony isn't very good at putting together value builds
okay you just about ready there Linus it's been a while yeah i think i'm done
you good yep and with that
our builds are complete so pencils down
time to compare ooh
yeah i think i win well it's okay it's not about whether
you win or lose it's is it more about how you play the game oh okay well i
think i played better gaming um
so we've got a lot in common we're both only spending 20 25 bucks on our cases
yeah um roseville power supply yeah you got
the same hitachi hard drive as well the graphics card's gonna kill me
honestly i could almost afford an rtx except i
couldn't right and i've only got a quad core processor
because your CPU is only five bucks more even though it's only a quad core but
like it's a faster quad core than it is than the ryzen cores so it's the 45
on the board and the cooler that are costing me that
GPU upgrade yeah and your RAM is cheaper too yeah i probably should have gone
dual channel it didn't make that much of a difference so here's the thing
requiring overclocking capability
isn't really fair in the sense that Intel can deliver
much better performance per dollar outside of their k series overclockable
chips even if those limitations are entirely
their own doing so let's actually work together then and
modify the blue team build to try and get a little bit closer to that bang for
the buck shall we sure basically CPU's got to go yeah and
i think you can get like an 8 400 out of that
8400 is such an underrated CPU 64
reviews is all it's got the value is entirely there yeah it's outstanding so
that means i don't need a cooler anymore you can kill that i don't need a z
series board anymore yep you can go with a i would say b360 so now you should be
able to afford the 2060. okay so
with the Intel build now running a more reasonable b series chipset because we
can't overclock anyway we're able to get both a more powerful CPU and GPU so
that's six cores now and an rtx 2060. so
with this modification then our specs actually even out significantly
but it's worth noting that any edge the
Intel system gets in its stock performance in games
may be offset at least partially by AMD's unlocked core multiplier and
higher thread count depending on the workload
so now what well why don't i throw a couple of benches together and see if i
can't figure out what the performance difference is between these oh so we're not just going to do this theoretical
we're going to build these rigs and see what happens yeah i like it
after an afternoon of prep our performance results came out to be
pretty interesting as you can see our first builds are really different but
while our AMD machine is way out ahead thanks to its powerful rtx 2060 graphics
card Intel does pull up close in some
less GPU bound cases and in cs go
even manages to pull ahead though it should be noted that this game is
notorious for performing much better on Intel
when we overclocked our first builds all those extra threads on AMD's processor
added up to a lot of oomph and since our graphics card was a little bottlenecked
at stock this translated to a nice increase in gaming performance so AMD
beat out Intel by about six percent overall with that said our overclocked
Intel machine on average beat our stock AMD system's rtx numbers not bad for a
gtx 1660. moving along we've got our adjusted
builds so remember our AMD machine saved a few bucks on the motherboard and our
Intel one jumps up to a core i5 8400 and
rtx 2060 but loses its overclocking
capability so here Intel is top dog for performance
with neither machine overclocked but then gets edged out by our overclocked
AMD machine this is proving to be a much closer race than we could have possibly
hoped and it gets even more interesting
when we look at the value proposition for our original configurations despite
very decent performance levels and a lower price tag the Intel build ends up
delivering poorer performance per dollar than our AMD one both at stock speeds
and when both of them are overclocked now our Intel build ended up a little
bit cheaper though because we had some budget left over
just not enough for anything that would impact performance like an rtx upgrade
so if you were building this box at home and didn't have a hard and fast 750
limit the story might be a little bit different
but we are operating within the constraints that we set and AMD came out
ahead at this price point as for the adjusted builds this puts
Intel's value at the closest to parity out of all of our comparisons
but then when we compare it against our AMD builds overclocked numbers it again
gets edged out and i guess it's that that word that
keeps coming up edged that is kind of the most interesting
takeaway here so as it turns out go figure neither AMD
nor Intel's product management departments are staffed by sea sponges
and every rig from both teams regardless
of overclocking ended up being within about
five percent in terms of the performance
per dollar like it's almost like AMD's pricing structure is designed to
maximize their profits while slightly undercutting Intel but not so much that
they have to react and drop their pricing and like Intel's is designed to
demand a small premium because of their more recognizable brand
truly fascinating isn't it i actually i honestly did not expect it to be this
close no like when we set out for this what was
the what was your expectation i was expecting AMD to just cream Intel at the
low end and then when we you know adjusted them i would expect Intel to
cream AMD because it's roughly the same price and
and you had six cores of more gaming
optimized single threaded performance like it yeah
so i don't know we
we ended up with a result that wasn't what we were going for but we certainly
had a lot of fun with it and let us know in the comments below if you'd like to
see any other of these kinds of value analysis pieces in the future maybe at
different price points or looking at different components of the system
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