1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,839 30 days ago, David and Plof downgraded 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:10,719 their GeForce cards for our one month Intel Arc Battle Mage Challenge, and I 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:18,000 am almost ready to give their old cards back. I don't need GPUs to Intel's more 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,240 power friendly Battle Mage B580. I don't 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:28,480 need a card that's meant for I don't need it, even 1440p gaming. I definitely 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,480 don't need it. 7 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:37,600 Or do you? Yes, but probably not for the 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,920 reasons you might think. Really? Crashes and bugs? Nope. Can't game at 4K? Not 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:47,200 that either. Okay, what is it? I really want to play Stalker 2. Oh, other than 10 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:51,200 that, the last 30 days went so smooth that it's actually been three more weeks 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:56,239 and I still haven't put my 4090 back into my computer. And I want to take a 12 00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:58,800 moment to say, dear new Intel CEO guy, 13 00:00:56,239 --> 00:01:05,119 please keep making these. My month wasn't as smooth smooth like this segue 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:11,760 to our sponsor. Charge. Keep your devices juiced with the Charge Geek 170 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:14,000 W 24,000 mAh power bank. It's got PD3.1 16 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:20,360 fast charging, three USB ports, and even a neat little information screen. Pick 17 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:20,360 one up using our link today. 18 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:31,759 David, what went well for you over this past actually more than a month now? 19 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:35,280 We're at like 80 days or something. Really? It's flown by. Right. I was 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,439 really impressed with the performance of the B580. Me, too. Obviously, it's a bit 21 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:43,200 of a downgrade coming from a 3090 and a 7900 XT, and you have to turn down some 22 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,960 settings, set the internal resolution a little bit lower so I can hit that 60 23 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:51,360 FPS target for my living room TV. And so unless I was choosing to focus on it, I 24 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,479 really wasn't losing out on fun. And at the end of the day, isn't that what 25 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,680 matters? 100%. This whole experience really made me question the importance 26 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,600 of technical presentation NVIDIA game graphics. I was in the unique position 27 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:05,759 where my partner had no idea that I switched out the GPU. So that forced me 28 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:11,680 to re-evaluate my hyperfixation on sharpness and visuals and just join her 29 00:02:08,959 --> 00:02:16,400 on her level when it came to just showing me vistas in a vow and being 30 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:20,080 wowed by them. And that's it. Initially, I was like, "Oh, that looks grainy and 31 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,920 upscaled, and oh, I can see the artifacts and the fur." But pretty 32 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,640 quickly, when I allowed myself to do it, I just started seeing the art instead of 33 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:31,920 just the graphics. And so, when games were working right, I'd say that I had a 34 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:37,519 really positive experience. But how about you, Mr. I own a display? 35 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:41,599 I also was pleasantly surprised by just how well everything kind of worked. Um, 36 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:45,360 I was also playing a lot of AAA games and I did the same thing. I didn't turn 37 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:49,599 my resolution down to 1080p, but I was upscaling constantly because NATO 4K is 38 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:54,800 just super hard to run. But, uh, God of War Ragnarok, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, 39 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Silent Hill 2, um, they all just ran pretty well as long as I stuck to low or 40 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:05,519 medium settings with upscaling. The only game that I pretty much gave up on was 41 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:07,200 Stalker 2. And I don't know if it's just 42 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:11,920 because it's a first person shooter and so I could really feel the lack of 43 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:16,000 frames uh, with the mouse a lot easier. I gave up on it real fast. I did run 44 00:03:14,159 --> 00:03:19,280 into a bunch of upscaling weirdness that we'll kind of talk about later, but it 45 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:24,720 actually looked okay. It wasn't the worst I've ever seen. However, 12 gigs 46 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:29,840 of VRAM is just straight up not enough for native 4K. No, NVIDIA disagrees. 47 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:36,640 They're wrong. Fortunately, I don't need native. You know, uh XSS is pretty solid 48 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,840 and I'm on a 32-in 4K monitor, but I often play like pretty lean back like 49 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,599 this. So, you know, the distance is a bit more. I would look at textures and I 50 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:48,480 would nitpick. Like as soon as I turn on the game, I'd sit there and be like, "Oh, that looks ass and that looks bad." 51 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:51,920 But once I just actually started playing, that kind of goes away. Yeah. 52 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Right. Like you really just start playing the game and you stop like looking at weird textures and stuff. You 53 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:02,879 you slowly stop noticing them. The one thing that really impacted my immersion 54 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,040 though was popping and like LOD pops, 55 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:09,840 level of detail pops. Even if the rock looks bad, when it like starts forming 56 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,280 differently as you get closer and closer or like background details start kind of 57 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,320 appearing, it's like, "Oh, that's not that's so jarring that it just pops in. 58 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:21,680 I don't like that at all." Yeah, I didn't have too many of those issues with the games I was playing where the 59 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:25,680 loss were popping cuz I agree. Any kind of pop in Yeah. super distracting or if 60 00:04:23,919 --> 00:04:29,520 there's like really bad stairstepping or aliasing, that's really bad. But I was 61 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:34,800 usually able to get my settings to a place where the whole image was clear 62 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:38,880 enough and smooth and non-distracting. Yeah, for the most part it didn't affect 63 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:43,919 me. Like once I stopped worrying about it, it was totally fine. But what went 64 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:48,080 poorly? For me, the biggest issue was just stability. I've had more crashes in 65 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:52,720 the last 30 days than I had over the last several years combined. The worst 66 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,800 offender was the computer that I only ddued. I did it again with everything 67 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,360 checked off and I was getting like one to two crashes every couple hours. 68 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:05,520 That's a lot. It was mostly in Avowed, which is an Obsidian game, so that might 69 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,520 just be the Obsidian experience, not the Intel experience. And when I switched to 70 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:13,199 my other computer, which had a full Windows wipe, it was still getting 71 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:18,080 crashes and issues where like the whole computer would turn off or the game would crash itself, but overall it was a 72 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:22,560 much better experience. And now that I'm playing South of Midnight, I actually haven't had a single crash on that game. 73 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:26,880 And that's on the computer that was less stable. So, it might just be an Obsidian 74 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:31,039 thing. The other really big issue that I had was streaming video. And I'm not 75 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:35,039 talking Twitch where I'm like streaming over the internet. I'm just doing a 76 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:39,440 video call over Discord to an editor reviewing a video. Basically, it's video 77 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:43,440 playback in a browser while streaming and it couldn't do it. I've never had an 78 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:49,039 issue on any computer I've ever used, including like pretty lowowered laptops. 79 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,600 And it was so bad that I had to stop the streaming to the editor so they couldn't 80 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:56,479 see what I was looking at. And I would just tell them the time code. so they could scrub through and I found that 81 00:05:54,400 --> 00:06:00,000 extremely frustrating. I also uh struggled with capture. I was trying to 82 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:03,840 stream a Dota match to a friend over Discord. Same thing pretty much. 83 00:06:01,919 --> 00:06:10,160 Normally it's fine. You know, I have a 4090 probably and it does a great job. I 84 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,080 bet if the B580 was only acting as like 85 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:16,080 a capture card or that's all it was doing, it would be fine. And I get that 86 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:20,400 I'm gaming at 4K and that's not at all what these cards are for, but it 87 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:24,319 definitely struggled to just stream while gaming. And I imagine if we were 88 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:28,000 doing everything AV1, we probably wouldn't have had these issues. But 89 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:32,000 that's just not the state of streaming these days. We're not at everything is 90 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:37,919 using AV1. No, they're really not. Other than that though, I kind of struggled to 91 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:41,440 capture anything at 4K. So, for instance, I was doing a lot of like 92 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:46,000 print screening and just screen capping uh for random stuff. Even if I just took 93 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:50,080 a print screen of my monitors and then scrub through it and paint, it would 94 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:55,360 like chug. And that's just, you know, going up and down in paint. I also found 95 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,560 that I got a couple of graphical issues. They weren't major. You know, it was 96 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,080 just like Cloud's Puldron looked weird and FF7 is all sparkly at one point for 97 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:08,160 no reason. But aside from that weird texture issue, the biggest things for me was XSS. I noticed upscaling and it was 98 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:14,000 pretty good. It definitely looks more like DLSS3 than like one or two. But for 99 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:17,199 instance, with God of War Ragnarok, it was trying to upscale the preview 100 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:21,520 Windows when you go to upgrade your abilities. And that looked really bad. 101 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:26,160 It like it's like garbly. Like it genuinely looks like a awful mess. Like 102 00:07:24,319 --> 00:07:29,199 I was completely just enraptured, you know, by the game and good to go. And I 103 00:07:27,919 --> 00:07:34,880 went to go upgrade an ability and I was like, "Oh yeah, right. I'm playing on my B580." Playing on low, you'd 104 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:38,639 occasionally get like, "Oh, the water there looks terrible." Yeah. You know, 105 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:43,120 you'd come to a certain scene and all of a sudden you're reminded, oh yeah, I'm 106 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:46,800 playing on low. Or a character would be way off in the distance and you're not 107 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:52,000 normally looking at them, so it's fine. But all of a sudden, you look at them and their face is a blurry mess that 108 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,120 just looks terrible. But most of that I can ignore, right? I can I can kind of 109 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,720 tune it out and ignore it. I did have a few other more just performance issues. 110 00:07:57,199 --> 00:08:02,400 For example, I was playing tabletop simulator with my cousin and I was 111 00:08:01,039 --> 00:08:09,120 waiting for him to take his turn and so I booted up Nubbies Number Factory, which is just like a pegle uh rogue 112 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,479 light over here. 100% abs. Absolutely. 113 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,520 And normally that's fine. And I can play a game over TTS, especially a light game 114 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:21,039 like Nubbies or Boltro or whatever, but I would go to like launch my ball down 115 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:25,039 the Peggle path, and it would just like the frame rate on on Nubbies would just 116 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:30,240 tank. And then I encountered something similar in Bolatro. If I'm waiting for a 117 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:33,279 Dota match, I'll boot up Bolatro, put it 118 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,440 on my main screen, and it ran great 119 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:38,560 except for when I play a hand, it would chug for like just a second. And it's, 120 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,159 you know, it's not enough to make me stop playing Bellro or anything like 121 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:46,959 that, but it's just those minor smoothness aspects of it that I kind of 122 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,920 like that's what I'm paying for when I'm shelling out for like a bigger graphics 123 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:55,279 card. I'm I'm paying for everything to just kind of work smoothly and perfectly 124 00:08:51,839 --> 00:08:58,240 at 4K specifically. I also did have one 125 00:08:55,279 --> 00:09:02,880 crash. Okay, mine was really stable for the most part. Um, but I went to full 126 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:06,800 screen a web page while I had FF7 open. The whole thing just crashed so hard. 127 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:10,240 FF7 just crashed on me. Oh, my computer just came back. That took forever to the 128 00:09:08,959 --> 00:09:14,080 point where I was about to shut it off when it like finally came back on. And 129 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,720 when it did, my sound was gone. There's no audio right now. It's totally busted. 130 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,519 I had to do a full reset of my system, like a full hard shutdown cuz it wasn't 131 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,480 even shutting down gracefully. Is your sound going through your GPU? Is it like a HDMI thing or was it just a headphone? 132 00:09:24,959 --> 00:09:31,680 I don't know if it was just a weird driver crash or something cuz yeah, I 133 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:33,360 have a Go XLR and um that's got speakers 134 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:36,080 coming out of the Go XLR, but it was just gone. Like I tried YouTube, I tried 135 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:41,440 a couple other things. cuz I tried enabling like sound settings and stuff and it it was just it was just gone. I I 136 00:09:39,839 --> 00:09:47,279 have no explanation for it. It didn't happen again, but it was bad. And last 137 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:52,640 and definitely least, uh I really wanted to play Halfife 2 RTX after we finished 138 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:58,800 filming and I went home and I sat down in my chair and I went 139 00:09:54,519 --> 00:10:02,080 to Right. I've got a B580. It's It's not 140 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:04,160 going to play HalfLife 2 RTX at 4K, of 141 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:08,000 course. So, I just didn't even try. That doesn't mean I don't like it. I actually 142 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:13,000 liked this card so much that I went and bought one and it fits inside the 143 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:17,760 commuter bag from ltstore.com is great. It fits a B580. 144 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:21,839 That's all I needed to fit. One thing I neglected to mention when we were 145 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:26,720 upgrading our well downgrading our computers in the last video is that I 146 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:32,000 basically did this as a test to see what to upgrade from my 1660 Ti in my living 147 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:37,839 room computer cuz I never use it cuz the GPU isn't good enough for my 4K TV. It 148 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:42,079 turns out this card with 12 gigs of VRAM is totally valid. Like you can actually 149 00:10:40,079 --> 00:10:45,040 game at 4K. You're going to have to turn stuff down, but it works. So yeah, I 150 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:50,399 bought the card and I'm super happy with it. I already installed it. That's an empty box. Way to go. And the best part 151 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:55,279 is I literally walked into a Memory Express and said, "Hey, I want a B580 152 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:58,959 and they had one and I paid like $35 over MSRP, but I got the Challenger OC 153 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:03,839 card." So that's like pretty typical for an AIB card to just pay, you know, a 154 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:06,399 little bit over. And uh I walked out. It 155 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:10,640 was how buying computer parts should be. I don't have to wait for anything. 156 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:14,160 Remember, those were the days. Yeah. I didn't buy one, but the rules stated 157 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:18,000 that if I sold the GPU and I was happy with the Ark, I could keep it. And I'm 158 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:22,600 pretty damn happy with the state of the GPU market. It took me literally five 159 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:27,120 minutes in one conversation to sell the 3090. And after realizing that Sharper 160 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:31,200 Graphics were adding a really questionable amount to my fun, I've 161 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:35,040 officially decided not to pay for a card that costs about a bajillion dollars 162 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,760 more than your arc over there. To be honest, my plan was to buy a 9070 XT at 163 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:43,279 the end of this because it just seems like a great value card, but I've 164 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:47,920 changed my mind with how hard it's been to find one that's not one of like the 165 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:52,240 triple OC super versions that costs like twice as much as MSRP. It's just really 166 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:56,399 frustrating. I'm so sick of the current state of the GPU market and I'm just 167 00:11:54,160 --> 00:12:01,600 going to hold on to these B580s for another year or two and see how things 168 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,880 settle down and just play games. That 169 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,240 made it sound like you're keeping both B580s, but you're keeping Oh, I thought 170 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:10,240 you were keeping your 3090. No, I sold the 3090. Oh, but you have the 7900 XT. 171 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:16,480 I'm not I'm not going to I'm going to sell that one, too. Oh, you are? Oh, I 172 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:20,959 didn't know that. I'm done with 4K. Done with it. It's so stupid. It doesn't add 173 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:25,120 to your fun, but it looks so pretty. The thing that I've had to realize during 174 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:30,240 this challenge is that how much I've allowed myself to buy into the marketing 175 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:34,079 hype that is a cycle of constantly needing new tech. I get it. It's partly, 176 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:38,240 you know, natural training. Like as we've been shown better and better graphics for, wow, I need that. I need 177 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:42,720 that. I need that. And it's part of it is just the choice and just accepting 178 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:47,680 that like things can look a certain way and it's still beautiful. I think for me 179 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:52,639 a big part of going down that giant upgrade path started with shooters 180 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:56,160 because you feel it you feel a low frame rate a lot better with the mouse when I 181 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,920 was really trying to get into like Counter Strike and Valerant when that 182 00:12:58,079 --> 00:13:04,160 first launched. That's when I was really like, "Oh, I need a better GPU. I need 183 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:07,880 faster memory. I need a better CPU." It was like a arms race. I am a little 184 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:15,040 nickpicky. I do I do notice this is right off camera 185 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:17,839 laughing at me. I I do I do notice like 186 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:23,680 DLSS even I notice lowquality textures. I notice a bad model. So there was this 187 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:28,800 like chasing the dragon that is quality. Mhm. And I've I've got it. I'm keeping 188 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:32,720 my 4090. And when I want to play like a really demanding game or something that 189 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,440 I want to look absolutely stunning and I don't want to just like, you know, 190 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:39,760 lounge back on my couch with a controller and and not really care about 191 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:45,399 that stuff, then I'll play on my 4090 on my computer in my den, whatever. and 192 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:48,320 that's fine. But it was it was very 193 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:52,160 refreshing to actually like stop caring about that stuff. The 49 is obviously a 194 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:57,279 greater card than most people watching this video have, but like you can be 195 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,480 excited for what you have and not constantly be chasing the next thing. 196 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,240 And there's so many games out there that like, yeah, there might be a big AAA 197 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,199 that you want to play that's a little more demanding and maybe you can't play 198 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:10,480 it right now and that does suck, but there's a lot of other games that just come out all the time. Like I've been 199 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:14,240 playing a ton of schedule one on the B580 and it runs, you know, great. And 200 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:18,160 even with the B580, it has all the modern features you need to get games 201 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:22,160 running. I think for a couple more years, if you have a card like that, you 202 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:25,760 can play the modern AAA games. And even when it becomes old enough that you 203 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:29,760 can't, there's so many games to fall back on. Literally hundreds of thousands 204 00:14:27,839 --> 00:14:33,040 of games that I haven't played. Maybe it's a good time just to look back and 205 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:38,959 play some classics that I've always kind of just ignored. Totally. or look at your Steam library that's got a bunch of 206 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:42,079 unplayed games and maybe actually play them for once. But I guess the only 207 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:44,639 question now is, you know, what's going to happen in the future with Arc. It's 208 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:51,360 pretty clear that it's not going anywhere on mobile. The new laptop chips with Battle Mage X graphics are finally 209 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:55,680 competitive with AMD, even winning in some key areas. But Intel's whole 210 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,839 desktop lineup has been constantly just rumored that it's going to be cancelled. 211 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,800 Whether it's Alchemist in the early stages, oh, Alchemist did poorly, so 212 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,399 Battle Mage is done. And now the new B770 and B780s are rumored to be 213 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:09,680 cancelled. So like, what about Celestial? Like maybe that's canceled, 214 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,360 too. Who knows? I feel like it's the one thing that Intel is doing right these 215 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:17,040 days. I'm excited about these GPUs and the ways they can break forward. I've 216 00:15:15,279 --> 00:15:20,240 heard from the script that I'm about to read that NextG Celestial is almost 217 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:26,160 certainly still going to have it on desktop, but I heard there was supposed to be a higherend battle mage card and 218 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:29,600 that's gone now. Yeah, there's like that sucks. It's I don't think there's going 219 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:36,240 to be a B780, which sucks cuz like imagine the cards we have. Yeah. Add 220 00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:37,680 like $1 $150, but now 16 gigs of VRAM, 221 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:44,800 so I'm not, you know, I could do native 4K. Performance might be bad, but I'm not going to run out of VRAM. And then 222 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:47,920 four or six more XE cores, it would be 223 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,839 like a really, really solid lower 224 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:55,680 mid-range choice. I think we're on the cusp of graphics cards being competitive 225 00:15:53,120 --> 00:16:01,440 again. things need to settle down uh with the import market uh being kind of 226 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:06,000 crazy and hopefully that does. But it's exciting that Intel finally has a card 227 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:11,120 that I think a lot of people will want. Again, please Intel, let the engineers 228 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:14,880 cook. Take your time. Battle Mage's competency has been pleasantly 229 00:16:12,959 --> 00:16:19,680 surprising, just like this pleasantly surprising segue to our sponsor, 230 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:23,759 Squarespace. Building a userfriendly, visually captivating website for your 231 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:27,920 business might not seem like an easy task, but luckily with Squarespace, 232 00:16:26,399 --> 00:16:33,040 you're set up with a blueprint for success. 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Like you were saying, mouse and keyboard, it might not be ideal to lose 249 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:40,480 out on that amount of frame rates, but for you know, for platformers and action 250 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,640 games, 60 Hz is fine. Dude, back in the day, the overall system just buggginess 251 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,640 was a huge problem. Whereas, it seems like most of your stuff boiled down to I 252 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:52,240 think you have a bad INC is actually what I think it is possible cuz I've run 253 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:58,480 into similar issues on other Ryzen systems where swapping out the RAM helps 254 00:17:54,720 --> 00:18:02,400 a little, but swapping out the CPU helps 255 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,480 a lot. So, um, and I know the lab hasn't 256 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:08,480 had any stability issues with B580. So, yeah, mine was pretty good. like I had 257 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:13,039 like one weird crash, but other than that it was totally fine. Um, it was 258 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:16,960 pretty solid all around. Like I actually I bought the card. I am blown away by 259 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:21,120 that. I bought the card. I'm putting it in my other computer. Blown away by that. in the 40.