no you won't see ips theoretically yes ready okay we're live
oh man i'm gonna do the worst scariest
thing in the world but is the audio okay why would you do that
why would you oh no no okay i are going to straw poll i am going to
do the worst scariest thing ever and i'm going to promote a
a fan created a fan created thing here i'm posting
this in the chat my friends is time to
play when job what is this
it automatically generates my god a bingo card no you shouldn't be looking
at it because i've only seen a couple of them myself
but basically it's kind of like a like it's like a
drinking game like a take a shot every time luke laughs too loud
or Linus apologizes for being late i'm sorry we're late by the way um
except it's bingo you don't win anything other than satisfaction and uh thank you
we should okay and it's just a fun game it's a fun game to play you go to
wanchobingo.com for all i know by the time people are
watching the archive of this stream will have it'll have been converted to a
phishing scam so probably don't do it but yeah but anyway for right now this
moment it automatically like pseudo
randomly generates a bingo card out of a bunch of possible things that can happen
during the lan show and you get to fill it out while you watch so we should
in my opinion gamify watching the WAN Show even more than that so even more
than that you can get bots in the chat so you should drink every time you hit
one one one uh cell and then you should
have to drink like i don't know what do you have to do when you when you
actually get get a row like just like skull something yeah yeah yeah totally
okay okay what else do you want to get so i was thinking if we if we bring a bot in
that manages the chat and you can post like you should whoever made this bingo
thing should make you unique identifier keys for every single person that's
playing so when the bingo game is done you just post your key in chat and it
takes your score from that website and actually like attaches it to your
username on the ldt like WAN Show chat so you should be able
to gain scores and then every once in a while you should be able to do like
exclamation mark brag and it'll say what your overall score is why are people
subscribing we've had a twitch subscriber two two
three three twitch prime subscribers
and a paid subscriber since we started
another one right there no no that's the one i was talking about okay oh okay
apparently brandon potts has been subscribed for 17 months in a row
17 months 4 99 x 17 actually this is not difficult
math 85 you're basically a
hero more twitch prime you only get half of that you only get well no i know but
that doesn't that doesn't make what the heck 15 months in a row for
secure is this just all coming up now because like we we never stream basically yeah
so because you're live now people will do their renewals because they get to
post see how that's gray yeah yeah yeah all your bases are belong to us so he
was able to send that message along with his subscriber renewal so that it showed
up gray along with everything else you know i appreciate the old memes it makes
me feel less old you know anytime i see an all of your face yeah or like uh you
know ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny you know any of that kind of
stuff i kind of go you know what this is great this is great i feel young right
now in this moment and then i'm like
so it doesn't last very long we got a great show for you guys today a
lot of great topics actually there's some pretty crap topics uh we'll talk a
little bit about meltdown and spectre maybe luke could talk a little bit about
how they've affected Floatplane development it's particularly sucked for
us for like reasons that aren't immediately apparent but yeah i'll get into it yup um with all that said we
also have in our news Intel hits a 17-year high on their sales outlook
great um another another new record the
biggest crypto hack ever so the the crypto lovers will be like no
and the crypto haters will be like yeah and uh we'll probably be somewhere in
between yeah and then um
wow this new google app lets anyone publish a local news story that sounds
like it sounds like it won't be terrible at all every single thing posted there
will be triple a level content not 100
not fake news it sounds like facebook
oh my god it sort of does all right let's roll the intro
oh man
oh my god you can read hyper local stories about your community right from
your phone just like the local paper that we all
throw away the second it lands on our doorstep because we don't care
do people actually care you know what i shouldn't say that people do actually
care about local news like uh it was cool it was cool getting
in the newspaper like when i was younger like john really cares about like
where people are from and like what they're doing now or whatever like he
he's like really into like who else is a you know duke alumnus or like from his
family or whatever like alumni affiliation kind of thing is much
stronger in the states though yeah i don't think people care nearly as
much up here i think that's a geographical difference to a certain degree you and i also never graduated
fair i was close
i went through like most of the process oh lord
oh we got a straw pull this though straw poll dot me uh local news local
news i'm like okay i went to a football game at the u of a university
of arizona and i went to a what was it a
basketball game or something
at uvic when i went to school there yeah and
like i'm talking like arizona school versus school in bc yeah and the the
difference was astronomical the the the
like like the like the atmosphere i was into it when we were in arizona it
wasn't even my school and i was like this is sick there was people like
giving out free beer couldn't drink it pop and like burgers and hot dogs in the
parking lot like party big cookies basically not even necessarily party
just like come on join the family kind of situation so like barbecue yeah it
was barbecue family barbecue just in the parking lot so when we're walking from
our car to the stadium they're like hey do you want some stuff
so my understanding is that some canadian sports are kind of like that
like the grey cup is supposed to be super talented
yeah it is but like that's one day a year yeah and this was
and no random college game no other cfl
game is like that yeah it was it wasn't a championship game it was it was just
whatever there was like a big parade with the music people i don't know what
you call them again band no marching band marching band a marching band a big
musical you're so fired you're so fired get out of here that's
fair that's fair um and like the game was amazing anytime anyone scored if
there's the other team everyone is all upset if it was their
team the entire arena blew up basketball
it happens a lot yeah like that's my problem no that was football that was
football that was the one in america was football the one in canada was i don't
even remember because it didn't matter i see the stage might as well be
volleyball no offense volleyball lots of fun to
play not much of a spectator sport
about half the arena was empty right um
there was some like sponsor stuff and then i think we left like three
quarters way through because we were just bored it was just like so different
and i could understand how it fosters like school mentality if it's mr nixon
mr nix 1001 hell we tailgate for any
reason yeah okay it's a thing fair
enough and it's cool though it makes you feel a part of it and then you you you
feel a part of it the second you show up because of the tailgating okay i didn't
say beach volleyball i said volleyball they are not the same
sport at all they literally don't even have the same number of people they
don't take okay they don't take place in the same place they don't have the same
number of people on the team and
one of them gets watched once every four years
there you go that's the difference between volleyball and beach volleyball
yeah um and to be clear i'm not hating like i
love anything with a net
uh someone said uh what's with tailgating is an excuse to drink in
public okay yeah i guess so because in a lot of
parts of the states that's illegal right i'm gonna start banning people who post
the holy crap geno you need to stop
you need to calm down there we go guy posted the same message
like a bajillion times anyways um
what were we asking i don't know something about anyways yeah i understand how it facilitates
the like i care about this community environment right because immediately
when you show up you're taken care of in a certain degree you're fed
right you're you're taken care of you're invited in just like insanity to me
because like i can't imagine a situation where i would go anywhere and i would be
fed by someone for no reason yeah which like seems pretty cool like
it is pretty cool yeah and it was good stuff like it it was yeah i don't know
it was good all right so local news um someone gave me a poster because i
didn't have any like shirt or anything to hold so they were
like here's a poster of the team so i could hold up a thing right it was cool
i had it in my room for a long time anyways 53 of you yes local news and uh
47 of you know local news so we seem to be split
right about down the middle people who care or don't care about local news mind
you i mean okay if google can capture 53 percent of the general population using
this service then um it's clear to me that there's your phone
was trying to listen to you'd be gonna be lesser going to be lesser lesser
quality local news than ever before your phone's like what was that
you want this app no no i don't
uh i guess we might as well jump into that as our first topic since we've like
kind of been talking about it for a while um there you go bulletin from google is
what it's called so it's like a bulletin board except
it's an app for contributing hyper local stories about your community for your
community right from your phone uh you can put a spotlight on inspiring
stories that aren't being told so basically news is dead and this is the
replacement i mean this is democratization of news i mean this is
something we did a piece a little while back it was not a very successful piece where i made like a streaming backpack
yeah and i was like this is the future of news people just
being somewhere and streaming and like this is like what i would consider to be
i think the reason why that didn't work that well was you were slightly too
ahead of the curve maybe and the setup was kind of janky well yeah but now and
things have gotten better to be able to make the setup better yeah um but now
irl streaming with backpacks is like a thing and it wasn't really when you made
that well whatever i was trying um
thought it was a cool idea so i was like okay but a step above
you know just having a phone out or whatever would be building yourself like
a transmission processing backpack so that you can uh so you can transcode to
multiple destinations so that you have failover for your
multiple sim cards a nice high high resolution and better audio quality
camera so that the feed isn't potato level and this is just sort of um
it's it's just another branch down that same path where ultimately
local news stations are dying this is not debatable it's not you know what
it's stoppable i don't think it is this is i'm just i'm just reading like
there's one line here people everywhere want to know what is going on in their backyard at a very local level ranging
from local bookstore readings to high school sporting events to information
about local street closures if this is curated well enough and sorted well
enough because there is so many things that i will not care about yep but also on like
a friday i might be like man
what is there to do right now what am i going to do this weekend so and if i can do like events near me
i've been blown away
by the number of things that go on in the community of
surrey yeah so that for example i was
dropping my son off for preschool one morning and i just saw like a sign in
the foyer that was like hey we're doing uh we're doing a starry night movie
night thing that's free there's face painting
there's uh i forget what else there was but there was like some activities to do
for kids and then at dusk they were gonna
bring out the big blow up you know portable projector screen thing and then
they just had like it looked like one of the staff just like brought their projector from home and fired it at it
it was fine like it was cool it was fun they had speakers which was good that's
a plus um and they played sing i'm sure they
didn't have a license for it but you know whatever because it's just a janky
stupid local event that nobody even knows about anyway but that was that was the issue nobody
knew about it so it was actually reasonably well attended given how
difficult it was to find out about it but then i started looking into it and
there's like tons of stuff like that it would be cool lots to do
because like zayn i i can't pronounce his last name
but zane from daily hive vancouver is a good curator of local stuff right okay
but like a lot of people don't even know that yeah i would have no way of knowing
that yeah yeah so like if he can post his awesome articles that go to daily
hive and he manages people and stuff into i believe are we changing our mind
about this a little bit because we were kind of hating on it yeah and now i'm
down okay okay if it's done properly okay okay and like one thing that i
would like to is if these are able to be sourced and if the
source can make money okay so it doesn't
look like there's a monetization strategy but this is interesting
google is planning to work with local news organizations to help them find and
potentially publish some of the stories as long as they give credit to the
original authors so they've already got a strategy to
uh to sort of propagate awareness of the
bulletin app through the medium that it is ultimately
going to rip late that's awkward isn't that awful i mean it's like you know it
was going to happen anyway it's just like can you imagine can you imagine this
like google walking in and pitching this to a local news organization so ah
you know this is okay hold on i don't think so i don't think it works that way
it just says giving credit to their authors not
the platform yeah but yeah yeah let's see okay let's see yeah
because i can picture this google walking in and going yeah so this is
great you guys you know realistically you can't lay off
any more staff because there's like four people here but you know so you're not
saving any money but you're like able to get more done with the money you already
saved because you have no money um we'll just we'll get all the local news
stories for you and then you can just sit and talk about them we're gonna be
like we're gonna be like local reddit except there already is local reddit so
you know what we're like curated right hopefully wait reddit is curated okay
it's reddit um the
the local reddit for around here is terrible yeah okay or vancouver
really bad that's fair okay so there you go the app is in a limited pilot in just
two cities um seemingly arbitrary nashville and oakland uh they're
apparently both google fiber cities so i was just gonna say that's not that random because of google fiber and it
also says they have high poverty rates and lie beyond the focus of the big
media hubs oh that's cool okay so cool
neat all right all right so so google bulletin we're down
now really depends on how they do it okay i think there is absolutely the
potential for me to be down and have it installed on my phone and use it quite often there's also the potential for it
to be a giant steaming heap of garbage okay never ever use it cool it's free
it's lightweight for telling a story by capturing photos and this is it
that's it wow okay um
got it impactful i don't know how james wrote
so many notes on that yeah good job
maybe you should write for bulletin
no one will pay you but all right there you go so
this is from the original source is from newsroom.Intel.com
root cause of the reboot issue identified they have updated guidance
for customers and partners so the saga
continues with the whole meltdown
spectre thing so over the weekend they began rolling
out an early version of an updated solution to the reboot issues that they
reported on january 11th just so you know what what is that
oh is that the quick rollout yeah interesting good job aj yeah good job aj
sorry keep going um something something reboot issues early
version make a final release available once testing is being completed but uh
basically um
apologize for the disruption this change in guidance may cause the security of
our product is critical at Intel etc touch okay let's get to our notes here
so as of january 11th Intel was notified that the first patch they issued for
meltdown inspector vulnerabilities was causing random reboot issues it was
later learned that the bug was affecting haswell and broadwell platforms
and uh on january 22nd they made a blog post advising that oem's cloud service
provider system manufacturer software vendors and end users stop the
deployment of current versions of the patches as they may introduce higher
than higher than expected reboots
and and other unpredictable system behavior
so let's let's jump into our uh this was posted originally by evan air on the
forum and our next one is from vegetable stew and the original article is from pc
world this is just another update on meltdown inspector uh let's go ahead and
pull this up actually i've remembered there's no
point in me going over my stuff because we covered it on the first show that we covered oh okay so Intel's plan to fix
meltdown in silicon apparently raises more questions than it answers so Intel
has said that they plan to deploy a hardware fix
so these will be silicon based changes to future products that directly address
the spectre and meltdown threads threats those products will begin appearing
later this year
Intel's chief executive brian krzenich told investors
i've assigned some of the very best minds at Intel my best people are on it
the best i've assigned the best they're the best people um
you know what just because i didn't watch that particular episode of the lan
show can you give me the tl dr of how oh no okay director of affected Floatplane
i'm gonna forget part of it which is the technicality of
exactly why this happens this way but we use a piece
of software for virtual machines and we use a version of it that's free
and there's a version of it that's paid i don't remember exactly the reason why
we used the other one i covered it properly last time aj is going to skim
me alive um i believe that the reason why we had to
use the paid one now is that's the only one that got the update to manage this
stuff um i don't remember why we were able to
use the free one before though yeah i think the free one's just older versions
so if we wanted to not be super owned by
meltdown well yeah i believe it's meltdown specifically i could be wrong
though i forget which one is which um then we needed to upgrade that upgrade
would have been at the cost of 900.
per CPU like per physical CPU per physical CPU
um so that's kind of a little bit of a unique situation because most people are
like oh no our things are vulnerable now we have to patch oh no we patched
performance went way down we saw that with fortnite the game um
actually if you want to look at a really really cool rundown of how this has how
this could potentially affect an organization check out fortnite's
breakdown of how it impacted their servers it was actually really really
good graphs and write-ups and stuff that they did but yeah our biggest issue was like hey
we want to not be vulnerable
so super expensive amounts of money now
through a lot of brain jiggering and planning and all
this other kind of stuff i do not want to update now Windows get out of my face
please um we have a plan and everything's fine and
whatnot but like pilpari says should have just used AMD
okay you should breed more
there's a wand show i believe
i believe it was uh
was it just before ces you should read more ouch okay aside from just reading
more what AMD servers
that that's part of the read more that i'm talking about actually we looked
into this we were like hey let's just do that
no not a thing what AMD servers yeah we're not building our own servers just in
case anyone's how many epics do you really think they've shipped
most like just saying so we use ovh for Floatplane people are
like epic which by the way wasn't released when we began building out
floatplanes infrastructure okay yeah one for that two we're not hand building
every server that we use for flow plane uh we're essentially renting servers off
of ovh which is what most people do that are using dedicated
stuff if they're not using dedicate or public cloud but if they are using
public cloud type situations you don't get the choice anyways yeah you use
whatever validated setup which by the way someone
like ovh is going to have hardware on
hand whether it's hard drives ssds sometimes motherboards sometimes
they're really slow no no that's not what i'm talking about no no they're
they're gonna have hardware oh yeah yeah yeah for upcoming for upcoming platforms
we're talking three six nine months in advance if you're an important partner
that's buying literally thousands upon thousands of xeon cpus
they make sure that you've got this stuff for validation well ahead of time
so to imagine for a second that epic which
launched what in august in august they announced it i think
something like that whatever sometime in the summer to imagine that that's that's
anywhere near a for rental server it's a joke i've
wanted a server with one of those for a while
this isn't like a they're only using Intel thing it's basically the only
option um yeah because they typically only have like here's our good better
best extreme they're just going to have a handful of validated builds
and that's it and there are some more options sometimes but we need fairly
specific things yeah and there are exceptions like we had a data center
before that would allow us to ship our own hardware there yeah except they were
just except they were terrible yeah like it was a cool feature did we ever get
that server no no they were supposed to ship it back to us
those faster i never got it
that was fast that had some decent driving i know
it had a bunch of enterprise drives in it we shipped them those enterprise
drives those bastards we could be mining bursts
on those i know if we could ever finish plotting them no
that's not gonna i've gotten one and a half drives in that 47 drive machine
GPU mining or gp plotting um no i'm not
GPU plotting because i put in a GPU and it like was supposed to work
automatically and then it just didn't it doesn't work automatically oh okay i'll
i can send you all the dots i'll have to figure it out i'll have to figure it out anyway i also have a dual xeon system
that i can start plotting on as well and you can just
move drives over and then you can just because you just need to import the plot file location yes so i'll figure it out
i'll figure it out but basically i'm doing a mining side advanced side quest
adventure um where we're looking at hard drive based
mining it's weird it's weird it's pretty cool but it's weird
it's fun i guess but
Linus is evading the question i'm not evading the question no we're doing we're doing a video
um all right so let me have a look
what else we got for topics you're getting one question yeah i didn't evade the question yes mining yes happening i
mean we're doing a whole video series around it what did you guys think was going on
what question was there about you mining i don't know i know i'm so confused yeah
i said 47 drives does that not sound like first coin mining what else would i
be doing with 47 drives other than petabyte project which by the way
um i had a couple people internally telling me we should be mining on the
inactive petabyte server uh super not an option because
oh you know what i actually don't have oh no i do i do have it i do have it
super not an option because check this out oh my god
phase one of the vault is like oh
phase one of the uh you might wanna switch the no no that's fine
i just get scared no no no it's fine it's fine everything is okay
extra large icons no no i hate extra large icons no i hate large icons which
ones do i want uh medium icons
this is the quality content you all come to WAN Show to see just happened where's
the where's the where's the the the amount
what where's where's the just proper capacity right
click properties no no no everyone gives you a fancy gui
no no no i refuse
conte oh that's an interesting one tiles tiles is the one so i've only got 40
terabytes left and when you factor in that z drive
needs an offload so this is the NVMe server we're going to have like 20
terabytes left in the first stage
excuse me sorry i've been sick since christmas it's ridiculous yeah i've been
a little um that's my girlfriend's fault though
completely it's entirely her fault i was fine she came over and was like i'm not
sick and then like hours later was just like coughing up a storm and i was like
thanks for that no i'm now i'm sick thanks hun
um yeah so we're gonna have to roll out the second one very very soon yeah and you
don't wanna so mining on hard drives is a very new
frontier and there's not very much data in terms of like how bad it is for your
drive or anything yeah and those are expensive drives they're like supposed
to be reliable and stuff yeah speaking of crypto actually let's jump into this
so the source here is coindesk.com coincheck confirms the reason why you
should not use online exchange wallets as much as
possible
so i'll tell you guys um
most of the crypto that i own and i do have some
i bought on an exchange um
don't show them this yeah oh okay
so most of what i own i bought on an exchange
but it is not on the exchange anymore yeah
and the reason for that is that while an exchange is really convenient so i
actually had it on there for like a week while i was waiting for my hardware
wallet yeah uh while in exchange is very convenient
um when you and when it was on there i was like oh well i'll sell some of that
and i'll buy some of that and i'll do this and like actually
i i played it right which is not an indication necessarily of skill but i
played it right is that a really good time to be playing yes it was yeah i won
bigger than i lost and that worked out really well
but the way to do it is you get everything
off the exchange and you keep it in a hardware wallet preferably one with no
online access whatsoever so there are dedicated devices for that
strongly recommend that yep and if you've got everything in an offline
wallet then if an exchange gets hacked
your crypto will not be part of the crypto that gets
absconded yeah yeah wow 58 billion yen approximately 533
million us dollars
yeah the precise amount stolen may not be
fully known until further checks have been carried out
into the intrusion ha ha
at least over four hundred million do you hear about the
wow uh yeah never mind we'll move on sorry i'm
just um no it's crazy so the price of
the coin which is specifically nem i'm not entirely sure which one that is
because there's 10 billion different ones um but nem coin the price of that
went down 13 percent which isn't even like in the grand scheme of how fast
coin value is not even that bad it's like an average saturday like it's
it's not that big of a deal
um so it looks like it's likely greater than the amount stolen from mount gox in
2014 when converted cash yeah 340
million dollars though it should be noted that
given how much less cryptocurrencies were worth in 2014 that proportionally
this is a smaller impact if you convert
up mount gox's theft to what it would be valued at now
yeah or especially a month ago yeah yeah
so that's a thing that happened um you know as usual you're going to have
people on all sides of this whole
this whole crypto thing that's going on here um the bottom line is this you know
i don't think either of us is anti-crypto
are you anti-crypto i i recognize a lot
of the bad things that are associated with it um crypto as a whole i think is
actually really good i don't know if you can blockchain technology blockchain
technology yeah i don't know if you've heard what the canadian government's planning on doing with that yeah
absolutely super cool do you want to click so okay i only know rough details
about this so i could get some of it wrong it's not a topic for this week but
the canadian government has spoken publicly about the interest of adopting
blockchain technology for some of its internal spending of tax money
so you can see where tax money is being spent and how
it's being spent that is awesome because i have said my entire life that i
personally i'm going to show slight amounts of political
alignment here but i have no idea anymore what am i going to do fire you
hey hey i have no issue really with taxes but i would like to know what my
taxes are going towards yeah it's annoying having a whole bunch of money taken from you and being like i have no
idea what i just improved because it's cool to think of like i am contributing
to society with this money yeah but it would be nice to be able to be like oh
there it goes oh it helped fix that road
or it yeah contributed to that school that would be a lot more fulfilling x
percentage of it went to federal issues wide percentage of it went to local
issues you know that would really give me a better idea of you know what i
would want to say at a town hall meeting or whatever else and like sure maybe
some of it went towards uh trudeau's lunch when he was on a trip that has to
be paid for somehow i'm not going to feel bad about that i just want to know
what it's doing it'll feel cool if i can know what it's doing
um mr nick says post in chat this is funny um
but but i think both of us both of us
hold crypto i'm i'm long a couple of different currencies um
so take that for what it is but mr nix's
post here in the forum basically sums up the biggest problem with it right now
wow that's worth a hundred thousand dollars i hope you know what to do with
your forty seven thousand dollars if you want go ahead and spend that two hundred
and three thousand dollars
the volatility is real oh yeah and the lack of regulation something that gets
pitched as a benefit of cryptocurrency is a huge issue it is also a huge
problem yeah because there's no well there's there's there's no
regulation and there's great things that come with
that and there's terrible things that come with that there's terrible things that come with that there's basically no
there's no laws that prevent people from manipulating this much smaller and
easier to manipulate market and oh damn has it happened yeah a lot i mean there
was that recent example with uh was it which one's the bad one bitcoin gold
oh uh gold or cash which one was the one that
was particularly brutal i don't remember which one but the coin itself wasn't the
problem yeah it was how it was set up and how it was
promoted and how the other coins were temporarily abused around its
inauguration and all the coin itself was not a problem it was the things that
would not be legal in normal markets that happened around it
but i don't i think it's cash i don't even remember i don't remember sorry
guys people are saying it was bitcoin cash yeah um yeah yeah so i you know i
think we should we should consider doing our own coin
so this is yeah yeah we should seriously as part of mining
adventures oh i just got stress pains in my neck as part of mining adventure
we should do we should be like here's all the ways this can be manipulated
we're doing it so you should don't buy this yeah you should list out like these
are all the potential things that we could do yeah to abuse the creation of
this coin these are the things that we're going to do late coin
wow oh my god
okay go ahead i'm sorry i'm still listening there's got to be some way so
that like everyone that's current oh my god if you could make that would be such
an interesting version of mining if you sit in twitch chat and there's a
bot that registers that you're in twitch chat and then it like sends you coins
based on how long you were in twitch chat before the show went live but after
it was supposed to go live so you make money by waiting
too complicated we're just gonna if we do this i'm sure we're just gonna copy
someone else's open source code for their coin and do nothing unique um but
that's what most people do anyways so it's fine
people are saying that exists lots of people want Floatplane coin
people want uh does anyone want Linus coin float coin wan coin
litecoin lots of late coins coin
litecoin float coin float coin luke coin
heck yeah heck yeah so you know i think
it would be a really interesting oh my god that's how we can that's how we can
reward the bingo
that's how we can distribute coins at the beginning
so we can generate a whole bunch we can distribute them through the bingo game
so that people want more and then you can brag and chat with how much you have
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yeah okay so this was posted by dragoon
2005 on the forum and you know what this
doesn't surprise me at all and it wouldn't surprise me
if um this is true of other motherboard
makers as well but uh asrock has said in the statement
that it's aware of the current hold on am i muted here oh oh oh it is aware of
the current Intel microcode version that might be detected blah blah security
vulnerables working closely to fix 100 200 z370 and x299 motherboards it blows
me away that x99 is not included yeah
i like that's insane that was a high-end product until june of this year yeah uh
Gigabyte joined the list last year despite originally saying
their products weren't vulnerable AMD joined the list releasing patches to
address both variants of spectre um so here we go variant tube
requires uh CPU microcode update so basically
uh ASUS was the first to address the issue MSI also etc so if you are running an
older CPU you know
i can see people shouting forced for system obsolescence
here i can also see the other side where the
manufacturers are going well hold on a minute this is like four or
five-year-old product how can we possibly be expected to be continuing to
provide support for it um you know
but wow one thing i can say is that whoever's to
blame it is not the consumer yeah so
that's a thing and i think that for a
security vulnerability it is fair to expect to be receiving
support and it's not getting done
and there are multiple issues at play here
one of which is a symptom of the computer industry's
overall inability
to responsibly manage itself
because i can tell you guys right now with the margins that they have
many of these companies simply could not afford
to roll out all of these updates
they actually wouldn't have the engineering bandwidth for it they
actually couldn't do it but
this this sort of points us to an overall larger systemic problem and that
is that the computer industry and consumers are partly to blame for this
as well has been on a race towards zero
i don't think so you don't think consumers just ultimately turning away
from the higher quality product refusing to spend more for it and just buying
whatever's cheapest you don't think that contributes i don't think that's happening that much
well remember this is this is an ongoing problem we're going back 20 years now
like we're going back to when computers were treated like you bought a high-end
computer once in a while you bought a quality one versus being treated like
commodities yeah but i think consumers are going to
do that in any market that you're in that's how markets work
if it's good enough they'll buy the one that's cheap enough to fit their field
and when you're looking at like gaming consumerism you're looking at like okay
i want to play these games i need this level of thing and then you'll buy the cheapest thing that can hit that level
that's okay let me throw a counter argument at
you because it's not like there weren't
opportunities in the past for people to learn from a
mistake like buying a motherboard from a
cheaper vendor having it be trash
and having their customer support i mean people complain about the customer
support of computer hardware manufacturers
incessantly but then they turn around and they still buy this
stuff like there's an excellent thread over on hardware canucks about canadian
warranty service horror stories
and these resources are out there but the
consumers continue to support vendors that when you go when you break it down
aren't charging enough in order to fully staff their support
departments to provide adequate services i guess you probably know more because
of the sales numbers of being a pm because from my perspective looking at
posts on like our forum and my own purchasing habits and the purchasing habits of my friends we buy cheaply
but usually within known constructs like i've dealt with
customer service from a few companies and i will often buy from those
companies or not based on how the customer service wins so in the broader
scheme of things it is amazing how much of a difference
people will it's amazing how many more people will
buy something when it is four dollars cheaper but i i feel like that's got to
be a thing across all markets and the the reaction about tools
tools is a great example of people buying what they believe is
quality because they think it's going to last it is hard to break into the market as a
cheap at the same time you expect to be able to buy a tool and keep it
potentially for the rest of your life compared to a computer where you're going to keep it for three years exactly
so customer expectations have shaped how
much they expect to spend on these things which has shaped how much people
can make when they sell them like it's look i'm not to be clear i'm okay i
should maybe blame is the wrong word yeah i don't think
a difficult thing to do because consumers are going to act like consumers act and they'll always act the
same way blame is the wrong word here but i would say that consumers and
manufacturers have contributed to what is an overall systemic problem
contributed sure yeah because we could sit around and like we've got people
saying you know they should recall all of these they should do this they should
do that good that's stupid like it's just a stupid thing to say because it
just doesn't work that way and everyone just lose their computers like this
it's like if it's like if we released um you know everything would just shut down
like you can't yeah like the whole internet would just shut
down like we don't actually want a world where MSI Gigabyte ASUS and asrock just
don't exist we don't want that we have to find we
have to find a compromise here and it seems like they think the
compromise is 100 series and up and
as a as a okay here as a as a customer
who's rolling x99 systems in our
production machines i can tell you that
i bought into that and we didn't pay for all the hardware as you guys know we did
a video about it but we do have money invested into them
so as someone who invested money into running these machines in a production
environment seven months ago or eight months ago or
whatever it was i am super not impressed that i'm not
getting supported here so i don't know where the right compromise
is but i'm not happy about where we are now
and i guess i don't really have much more to
say than that yeah i
i think i think i guess the takeaway from this is pay attention to how
different companies react to this yeah there that's that's a great takeaway so
guys uh here i mean we can link you to uh
we can link you to the article where this is being tracked actually you know
it'll be on the forum later we'll have it in the when topics uh we'll have it
in the way i'm talking lan topics forum and
check it out so find whoever supported this best
write it down put it on a post-it note stick it to
your wall google docs next time you buy a motherboard buy from them yeah and
let's see if we can start to reverse the tide because ultimately that's what it's
going to take unless the consumer habits change and these companies feel like
they're going to get a return on the investment that they're putting into support they're not going to do it
because that's how business works you invest where you're going to get a
return so brand loyalty i think is is generally
kind of not a good idea but
i don't see this as a brand loyalty move because you're making a logical decision
based on how a company acts and like if something like this was to happen again
you're making a decision that is based on how that company would react to that
situation so it is actually inputting value into the product so you can look
at the overall value proposition and go look this has more value to me i'm going
to purchase it not i'm brand loyal to this company i'm going to purchase it
i've made purchasing decisions based on companies
one of them that i've told stories of on the WAN Show before is evga
because of how well they treated me in the past when i was not a creator right
this is when i was absolutely on my own it's a long story so i'm not going to go
over it but they were awesome and i don't buy everything from avga
like clearly you can see my builds yeah done them here
but in situations where i'm like oh look one of my options is this and it's
pretty darn close to another one i have often gone with them but i don't buy
their stuff exclusively at all because i'm going for what i think is the best
value at that individual point in time do you want to totally change gears this
was posted by sc2 mitch on the forum original article is from cbc
a canadian has been charged
with spamming twitch
what brendan lucas part of the can spam thing
is subject to a court order preventing him from spamming
which i know right
so the 20 year old has been uh charged
with mischief in relation to computer data by the
supreme court of british columbia local guy uh for allegedly sending a hundred and
fifty thousand offensive messages through twitch's chat systems too nice
uh the messages hit more than a thousand different channels and included racist
anti-semitic sexist and homophobic slurs thanks for representing canada he could
face up to 10 years in prison as well as
a civil order barring him from using creating or selling certain types of
software including any robot bot crawler spider blacklisting software or other
software that could be used to target the streaming platform
he allegedly used a service called chat surge whose stated purpose is to flood
destroy or simply demolish any twitch tv chat room the bots were posting an
average of 34 spam messages per minute while on some channels the rate was 600
messages a minute employees at twitch dedicated more than
300 hours to tracing the attacks after receiving over 375 individual user
reports regarding spam messages containing racism homophobia sexual
harassment false implications of viewbotting and soliciting child sex
exploitation material wow
so this all allegedly happened between february and may of 2017
and uh he was charged on december 1st of 2017. wow
interesting this prompted the company to file a
civil lawsuit on march 31 2017 against
shaw communications paypal holdings cloudflare who is privacy corp and who
is guard inc
dang and apple was charged on december 1st of 2017. what
i guess they're just shooting at everybody speaking of apple um
we i was actually kind of thinking maybe i would do a video updating people have
been asking where the heck is our imac pro coverage oh yeah do you know about
this have you heard about this no oh so we we accidentally broke it
which happens from time to time yeah no i haven't apple is outright refusing to
repair it even at our cost
what so right now because it's so new
uh replacement parts are not easy to get and apple is just refusing to repair it
so the store contacted apple hq and they were just like no don't don't do it
why yeah that's a wonderful question isn't it so um i was thinking maybe we'd
do a video about that at some point wow
senator rosman that's an interesting that's an
interesting idea well no i mean okay the issue is not that we can't repair it
it's not not rocket science it's got a blown power supply and a broken display
we just need a new power supply and a new display whatever the issue is that
apple has a brand new product that for whatever reason not they aren't
equipped to they're not saying hey give us a couple weeks i don't know if he's interested or not but i really feel like
tying rossman into this they're saying hey we are not going to do it go take it
to an apple certified repair shop somewhere else
wow yeah like what's the point of an apple store
yeah speaking of you know supporting customers and all that we're not asking
them to do it for free they even quoted us they told us how much it was going to
cost we agreed to it they held it for a few days and then we're just like what
we are not going to repair it what yeah no i know no no no this is like
pretty frustrating what how can couldn't
i'm sure there's something in the contract but if they take money for something no they didn't
take it yet they just quoted it but they took it physically right they took your
product yeah they took the product you should be able to like charge them a
rental fee or some bullcrap you wouldn't be able to do that if that were the case
and every repair shop anywhere that doesn't end up being able to fix something would be
would be open to that kind of but that's that's that's a decision that's not an
inability no that's not a like we tried they could just say oh you must have
misunderstood us we can't fix it in which case that's a pretty funny video
either way yeah apple cannot fix the imac pro
woo good so good luck if it breaks but rosman probably can't yeah he probably
can um okay last last topic today this
is cool uh this is off windowscentral.com
microsoft is building a truly modern version of Windows 10 for pc's codename
polaris they're planning to strip out
legacy components in favor of a more modern os with better battery life
like what i don't know
what a wonderful question
apparently better performance it'll feature seashell microsoft's upcoming
universal shell that's shared across devices instead of the legacy microsoft
shell um it will also ditch win32 components
and apps like notepad or paint in favor of a uwp first experience just like
Windows 10 mobile oh wow what
it's working on an updated file explorer built on uwp
why do they do stuff that like just
it's obvious that people will hate
okay have you noticed how hard it is to get into your network settings now yes
ever since the fall creator is actually a nightmare it's ridiculous like here
and it auto changes settings back you change something and they'll just set it
back that drives me absolutely bonkers like you get stuck here now and like i
can never remember is it is it property no no it's not
properties is it uh takes forever to load
not hardware properties is it you know the status it's not dense
enough there's all this white space you have to scroll for no appearance oh wait
hold on is it network and sharing center i think what you're looking for is oh
hold on no no i think you can get to it here there we go finally finally another
click finally there you go and get this
if you want to connect or disconnect a vpn oh my god it takes you to the stupid
thing it doesn't just connect or disconnect are you are you kidding me
at least to their credit you can connect and disconnect the vpn by clicking here
now but there was an intermediary there was an intermediary yeah where you
couldn't do this still and you just had to come in here and do this and every
time i loaded this straight to here it wouldn't work until i clicked on another
tab and then clicked back like it is it's shocking no no that goes here now
the one that you pointed at goes here what that's the problem yeah this goes
here i thought that's as of the last couple of updates
what really yeah yes no i was just using that as my shortcut
no you can still right click i think and
open network and no that's still that's this again that's this now too so
there's no straight right this is never what i want no i can't think of any
reason i would want to look at this page where's the like how it handles with
home and oh hold on hold on oh oh this is just bad ui design
this is clickable yeah i didn't even realize this was
clickable i thought this was just crap yeah so you can click here and you can
get to the adapter settings okay yeah they don't look like buttons
yeah until you hover over them i
viciously hate Windows 10. and it sucks
because this really cool microsoft studios game
is in beta right now called sea of thieves yeah
um and i want to play it and i tweeted like does anyone have a key and like
awesome sean from microsoft is like here you go bro um and then i'm like wait i
can't play it because i'm on Windows 8.1 well you have to use the Windows store
it's a Windows store game sadly because the Windows store is a terrible
experience but it looks like a really cool game so i want to play it and i
don't have any spare ssds so i'm going to install Windows 10
on a 500 gig momentous xt
um i think that's what it's called those like those like SSD hard drives that
really just have a lot of cash ssh yeah i'm gonna install Windows 10 on
there obs chrome
and sea of thieves and that's it
and it'll be a horrible experience because it's gonna be on a hard drive yes yeah so if i ever want to play the
game it'll be on a hard drive because i just i sat i literally sat there for
like half an hour basically staring at my computer being like i really want to play sea of thieves but i really
really don't want to use Windows 10.
and that's it came to there all right so thank you guys for tuning in to the lan
show oh right um
early access on flow play yes huzzah
oh do you do you want to talk about any of the cool stuff that's going on with full playing can you talk about the cool
stuff that's going on you're killing me he's supposed to do blog posts
he there's so much cool stuff happening
i'm no i'm i'm saying it i'm saying it we processed a credit card transaction
a lot of them a lot of credit card transactions and they resubbed and they
worked and they resubmitted yes the subscription the subscription mechanism
worked that is a huge milestone if you've ever like developed a platform
you'll know that that's a big deal because you can't even do any of that
stuff until you've got a lot of the other back-end mechanisms also working
and it like associates with accounts and it grants you access properly and when
your sub dies it takes away pro access properly and and uh why aren't we
talking about this stuff it's cool i wanna slam a whole bunch of these things
really close to the launch of the platform okay it's like think of it like
sex
a penis can only be so wide okay before it just cannot be processed
anymore okay
you need to you need to just calm down that like massive you know
like you know butcher shop meet size direction
and just kind of bang out
these these news updates focus on insertion over time over time yes
okay so back to my screen here
uh this could be quite possibly the greatest LTT video of all time this is
sort of so we actually almost lost one of our cameras at ces
um not going to name any names
um someone left one of our camera bags just
at the bell desk basically and i just called luke a giant dick it
had uh i didn't call him one i said maybe he
had one it's different
one's offensive one's probably i don't know maybe also
it depends how sensitive you are i got hard that's confusing right now i got
hardcore sjw at the amazon go store
oh oh yeah anyway um oh yeah i had an
encounter i had a real live encounter it was great i'm sorry yeah um anyway so
this video was almost lost because it was on an sd card that was sitting in
that camera and it is perhaps the greatest you watched it LTT video of all
time uh i have watched bits of it i haven't watched the whole thing
uh hold on a bit but we're going to watch a little
bit of it now hold on i'm going to throw up so cool this is like the coolest product
of all time and this is possibly the greatest LTT video of all time so that's
not a digital screen no no no those are physical objects yep
and this is this this match this match is epic this match is epic
i'm not going to spoil who wins but it's an epic match me versus luke mano amano
who's close real world pong yeah real
world pong just like seemingly every competition we do like scrapyard the
amazon go store video is up so i went down to buy myself some always
nice um heck yeah got in trouble for that
that's what you got in trouble yeah interesting hey not from amazon that was
my sjw encounter okay the diy micro SSD
micro sd SSD this was an adventure
that was good um that was fun that was really fun
uh mining adventure part three is up
asic miners are they worth it
that answer changes from day to day hey guys
the imac pro review from a pc guy's perspective that's up
just the review the rest of the content has to wait until uh we can put it back
together scammed on ebay testing the 56 core
system it's 19 minutes long that's a really good video the whole thing is
really good 19 minutes long my friends editing on it's good the hosting is good
good job it was a good video yep great work a
prime um yeah so we've also got a couple tech quickies how does bitcoin work
um we've got a lot of really good feedback on this video people are saying this is one of the better summaries out
there okay also what are pentium gold and silver
because who the crap knows yeah what what Intel's talking about these days
and if you are subscribed to bit wit
then you can also get early access to okay kyle's stuff where is it the
happiest place on earth breaks down is a
really wholesome actually fun to watch
video kyle's has fantastic humor wifey
sauce is hilarious they go to disneyland it has almost nothing to do with tech
and it is great i don't know
i like i i clicked on it to be like oh the upload worked and blah blah i want
to see how the service is going because some people whatever and then i ended up just sitting there and watched the whole
thing and was like i feel good about stuff now this is going to be a good day
speaking of the upload working you guys have retooled a lot of the back end is the performance on the player still good
oh it should be missed my click wow yeah it should be good wow did you
guys see that instant playback
let's see what happens when you switch to 1080. i think you might have to
um click play again oh really oh no no there we go okay uh so his
video quality and this is actually not that great so don't judge our 1080p
based on this and it's going through twitch uh not fair um but anyway that's
a cool poster thingy the the the pacing and the editing in the beginning before
they go to disneyland is really good and then it's hilarious once they're
there i don't know they just it's good very good video all right so there you
go there's the update on Floatplane sort of
a lot of great content over there though so go sign up if you haven't already and
hopefully very soon we will have annual subscriptions
working again that'll be one used so the reason why it launches very
soon the reason why annual subscriptions got
cut wasn't because i don't want to give people a discount for subscribing
annually i absolutely want to do that because then that encourages people to
subscribe annually obviously that's why everyone does that um but i didn't want
to lock people onto the current payments platform because it's garbage so i'm
hoping that we can launch the new site get you on the new payments platform
then there will be the discounts for yearly and if you were subscribed yearly
and then now you're subscribed it monthly don't worry you'll still be grandfathered into the nice pricing are
we going to find a way to work that how are we going to do that okay we'll
figure that out still some things won't actually be that hard okay okay cool
yeah all right cool um people want the sjw
story uh is it a good idea i don't know
after party i don't know no i gotta go um
all right i'll do it really quick okay i'll do it really quick so basically
you're playing with fire here i know i know okay i know
one thing to consider oh no i don't we are not a federal institution okay
that's fine there is laws against certain things in canada now anyways
okay okay so anyway
i'm kind of done shooting the piece and i'm
i'm waiting to get my receipt on my phone and so dennis like i'm holding the
stuff i bought and it's like kind of awkward because
dennis has to keep his camera pointed at it because we want to see the push
notification okay so we like we can't really move so i've got like i've got
these like pads and uh we put the food in the bag so i
just have these pads and i have my phone and like my mic battery's dying so we
need to like swap the batteries and we're trying to hold everything we're trying to like
anyway um so this person
um comes up to me and goes are you guys like vloggers and
i'm like oh yeah and she's like
did i say she the person
cause i'm not gonna assume oh the person the person kind of makes a
face and goes and it's part of your bit that
you're here buying pads and that that's embarrassing
and i'm like and then i don't actually get a chance
to say anything because that's perpetuating
something something i kind of was tuned out by that point and
um and it's totally natural and it's fine and i'm like yeah it is and that's fine
and that's good and then he has a wife who he's probably buying them for yeah
um and you know it's one of those it's one of those conversations where it's
like look honestly
i am not personally shy and i don't feel awkward about
natural bodily functions no because who
gives a [ __ ] get it
but i'm also not going to pretend
that people don't feel a little awkward when they have to go to a drugstore and
buy condoms or tampons or suppositories
anything that goes on your genitals up your genitals
or you know up your butt is just you know what
people feel a little awkward about that evolutionary reasons why you feel
awkward about those things and that's fine too
basically the premise of the video is
you know i need to buy something the original plan was condoms actually the
original plan was was extra small condoms
and i was good it was going to be a joke at my own expense because i was going to
want to buy some condoms they needed to be obviously i don't need those because
yeah but but the joke was going to be i need to buy some condoms
and i hate i hate telling people my size
you know and so yeah i need i need a store that
doesn't have cashiers so i'm going to drive all the way to seattle
so i don't have to show the extra small condoms to the cashier okay
and we call the head and they don't carry condoms so we were like okay
what's the only like personal care or personal hygiene product that
you carry and it turned out it was tampons and pads um so we had to adapt it and
there you go um that was it and the funny thing is i
was sitting eating my lunch on a bench in the building next to it and an amazon
staffer who happened to be female comes by and she's like oh is your bit that
you don't have to talk to the cashier about the pads that's hilarious that's
something i didn't even think of as a benefit for this store because now when
when husbands and boyfriends have to come in and buy pads and tampons they
can do it discreetly brilliant and and she goes on on her way
which is like yeah people are allowed to feel awkward and we were even we were
talking we were talking for a little bit more actually and i go yeah you know i
actually took flack over this over this angle for the video and she goes
oh you know that's uh well you know i'm from the
east coast and
and i was like well you know i'm west coast and i got nothing to say
about about that but you know east coast sounds great oh man you know the
it's just it's one of those things where people are gonna be offended or not
offended my personal my personal philosophy on the whole thing i don't
get real personal on the wand show very often but my personal philosophy is you
know what it is very easy to get offended in life you can get offended by
almost anything it is really hard to get along
and so what we all need to work at
is getting along and if everybody focuses on that and if we focus on
people's intent rather than on exactly the words they
used or the way that they used them it would be a better world yeah
that's all i have to say don't assume people are trying to be jerks thank you
for watching the lan show we will see you again next week same bat time same
bat channel assuming we haven't been you know assuming we can get past the
picket line of people who are upset in front of our office yep
bill c-16 yeah bill c-16 is crazy
what's bill c-68 uh federal institutions you are legally
obligated essentially it's a bill against certain
parts of the free speech but then canada doesn't have the same
thing it's really complicated and there's other bills that affect it so
it's a really difficult thing to understand and just saying it during the outro is not going to make enough sense
i would recommend doing research on it don't just read the bill because there
are other bills that affect it so it's more complicated than that
anyways