So, as you can see, we got our million dollar plaque. Millionaire, million
subscriber plaque, and then we got our multiple hundred thousand. Well, some
say it is, but I don't think it's really gold. But my actual a lot of money. It
does. And then the silver ones, too. Like, if that's all solid, that's quite
a bit of money. And then, so, welcome to Scrapyard Wars. You guys might be
wondering what's up with all the mad stacks. Well, this Scrapyard Wars is
going to be a little bit different. We are going to build a computer. We are
going to build a good value computer, but there is no set budget. The
challenge today with our special guest Austin Evans is to build the best bang
for the buck computer. We'll be using five different benchmarks, Tomb Raider,
Far Cry 4, Cinebench, PC Mark, and 3D Mark Fire Strike to determine who has
gotten the most possible value for their
money. standard.
Okay. So, I don't know about you guys, but I got my Dbrand phone. I got my
chest strap done up. Oh, you got the
real stuff right there. Yeah, you got the real stuff right there. Yeah, me too, bro. So, let's go. No holds barred.
Scrapyard Wars. No holds barred. Peace, bros.
Wait, actually, I need my laptop. Where did my laptop go? Here it is. Okay. Uh,
I really have to pee. Let's go, dude. Uh, how do we get out of here?
Okay. All right. So, basically my plan right now is
Oh, there we go. Okay. Totally thought the door was locked. All right. So, the
plan right now is to just get out of here. So, I think it looks way more
legit if we're like not here. So, where are we going? It's a great question. Uh,
let's not be here. Let's just drive a little ways and figure this out. So,
okay, potential problem number one. I actually haven't even done any
pre-thought. I've been so busy that I haven't had any time to figure out how
I'm going to tackle this challenge. Potential problem number two.
There's three of us this time. There's going to be Craigslist crap that's
listed two weeks ago that they get no calls about and they're going to have
three people calling them today. So, we it is going to be a race against the
clock to win Scrapyard Wars 3, which
obviously means it's a great idea that I'm sitting here on a couch. I I should
be able to get going. So, we're going to try to save some money by avoiding a
case and try to build everything onto like a cardboard box or something. It's
all about price to performance. So, if I spend like even half the budget, I
almost feel like we're going to go over cuz I don't know. I'm thinking like
$6700, something like that. Do you know of a cool spot around here? Like I know
my hotel's over here. What's a cool spot like we could hang out? Um we're in
Langley. So nowhere. Oh, that is some wicked
gas. We're not in the car yet, though, so it's
okay. Oh man. Oh wow. That's like that
is some outdoor grade gas. One of my biggest concerns is that I think we're
gonna be fighting for parts. Uh I think we're gonna be fighting for parts
because I don't think there's actually that many for sale right now. I'm wondering if it has something to do with
the Canadian dollar being in the tank at the moment. Is that mine? It was sitting
on the ground. It's my tip. Damn.
Thank you.
So, one of our dastardly plans is to
send responses from Craigslist ad
posters to those guys that they never actually messaged. So, we'll try and
we'll try and get them off the trail, get them
confused. So, we're all going to be on
Craigslist. We're all going to be trying
to find the same deals. Or maybe
not. Cuz the way that I see it, there's actually a few different ways to tackle
this. We can try and get the cheapest
possible computer that is at least capable of running the benchmarks and
hope the other guys spend way more. Or we can go for like the
traditional bang for the buck PC somewhere in the 7 to $1,100 range and
win the benchmarks and hope the other guys aren't able to get great value for
the dollar. I frankly don't know what
the answer is right now. Yeah. What if we try to do like a $100 gaming PC
build? I don't know if it's necessarily going to be awesome, but it's price for
performance, right? So, if this is a tenth as good as if they spend $1,000,
then we actually win. So, this could work. It's only $10 and it's even here.
This could work, maybe. Okay, so I just
got a $220 offer on a R9290
box of video cards. Oh, we're we're
calling this guy. We're calling this guy that looks like an 8600 GTS. Like if we
can just taking up space on a shelf. If we can get that for like two bucks or
five bucks or something, we might be in pretty good shape. It's an option. So,
I'm calling the guy with the R9280 for 130 bucks. I'm going to offer him 120.
If he doesn't take it, I'm still going to do 150. Can you do 120 bucks?
Awesome. Uh when when do you want me to come pick it up? Yeah. Yeah, but Port
Moody's like a city. Like I need to know where. Okay.
So, I got a R9280 for 120 bucks. I
really wanted to get that 290, but I don't think the price performance is
worth it when the 290 would be over $100
or no, basically exactly $100 more. I
don't know. There's there's some funny math there because you have to calculate in the whole rest of the system as well.
But, I think a 280 is going to be good and I think I need to move on to other
things. So, I'll go with that. If I'm learning anything from this is that
people like to really overpric their old PC hardware. Like people like are like,
"Oh, my my six-year-old gaming PC is worth $800. It was worth $1,200 5 years
ago." Like, no, dude. It's worth like $300. Get over yourself. Canadian used
market in general is just cuz uh the
turnover is so low. Yeah, dude. Yeah. I
mean, I'm just seeing tons of junk here and every once in a while I see something cool like Yeah. Okay. So, this
is a a GeForce 7900 for $50 there. I
mean, it's got Svideo on it. It's not going to be worth $50. I don't care what
you say. Wow. A lot of this stuff is pretty brutal. Is that a 9600 for 10
bucks, though? That's not bad. Let's save that
in the numbers sheet. The best thing to
do, this is going to be a disadvantage for Austin in this whole competition
because he hasn't done this before, but the best thing to do is right in the
first couple hours, put out as many feelers as possible. Yeah, you're right.
This does take a long time. I also totally want to find like a like
a pawn shop. Turn off the car. Oh, dude, that's a good idea.
That's a great idea. Yeah, like the car just like runs out. There's a Q9650 CPU.
I'm still potentially interested in that if I can get it for the right price. I
think we're going to need a quad core to win. Uh that Cinebench is going to make
a big difference. I wonder how Austin's doing at this point. Like new city. like
he doesn't even know where any of these sub regions are. Like he's going to be
like, "Oh, Yale Town. That's probably pretty close." Okay, I think we might
have found something. Here are a pair of 7950 graphics cards for $150. And that's
both of them. So, basically, one of them actually, they were both used for
Bitcoin mining. But I don't really care. As long as it works for long enough
where I can actually like benchmark, that could work. $150. Where is this?
13th Avenue. Is that Burnaby? Was that
anywhere near Barnaby newest? Do you have any idea where that
is? Trying to work on system. So, what I'm trying to find now, I have a
graphics card. I'm probably not going to look for a case. Power supply. I'm
probably going to have to get on its own. H. So, what I'm looking for right
now is motherboard, processor, memory essentially, and a hard drive, I guess.
But I might try to sneak an SSD in there if I can. I just don't know if it'll be
worth it because most of our benchmarks are CPU or GPU.
$60 for an SSD. That could be that could be all right. Maybe I think you might be
able to get a new SSD for around that price. It probably wouldn't be that it's
probably not that much cheaper, but we also maybe try to get that guy down a little bit. So, this guy wants 60 bucks
for a 120 gig SSD. That is so not
happening. $60 firm. You can buy brand new 240 gigs for
$98. So, I'll see if I can get them to be a
little bit more realistic. Thought you should know Luke almost lost
his money. Yeah. I was just wondering if you were interested in selling parts of
it at all. Yeah. Yeah. It's a pretty good point. Um I was only interested in
the motherboard, processor,
um RAM, and potentially power supply. I call him up and I'm like, "Are you
interested in selling just the parts?" And he's like, "Oh, yeah, totally. That was my first idea when I was going to
put it on Craigslist was I was just going to part it out." and he ends the phone call like, "Well, I'm okay with
selling the parts if you buy all of them." So, so far I've got a graphics
card that I'm picking up at 3 something that was a R9280 for 120 bucks. I don't
know if that's like necessarily the best deal I could get, but I wanted to move
on to system cuz I did notice that a lot of my target processors, they're kind of
scarce right now. I can't find very many of them. So, I had a whole bunch of
graphics card options and was like, "Okay, I just want to get that out of the way." I should have maybe done that
later, but whatever. I'm really trying to find my platform right now and having
a little bit of trouble with it. Uh, dude, I think this might be it. $150 for
27950s. That's going to kill it. All right, this is this is we totally need
to go this way. So, now let's try to find some other parts and we'll start calling. That's totally the way to go,
dude. That's that's it. That's that those are our cards right there. So, for
a lot of the components, I'm just going to be kind of browsing what's out there and buying whatever. But for the
graphics card, I think I have to shop a little bit smarter. So, I'm going to be
using Ananteek's uh bench repository in
order to compare graphics cards across
generations. And then from looking at it briefly, I'm feeling pretty good about
the approach of going with a Tahiti based card. So, either a uh 280 or 280X
or a 7950 or 7970. I think that's where
we're going to get the best bang for our buck. So, I'm going to lowball this 280X
and kind of go from there. Okay, so this
is how I write a Craigslist email. How's it going? Saw your listing for the pair
of 7950s. I plan on building a gaming PC and was wondering if you've made sure
they can game. I don't plan on mining, but want to make sure both cards are fully working. Thanks, cuz I've got to
be polite. I'm in Canada. So, fire that off and hopefully we hear back. Okay,
I'm just being like a little [ __ ] Hi, I'm um contacting you about the 280
extra sale. Are you firm on the price? I don't think I can spend that much.
Whenever someone contacts you like that, whenever they open with that, they're a
loser. Well, not like a loser, but like getting a better price makes you a
winner, yo. But, uh being a little [ __ ] Hey, here's a good deal on an
SSD. Let's see if this guy has a phone number. 40 bucks. Call. All right, I'm
going to offer I'm going to offer 30 for a 120 gig if I can get it. I'm feeling
really good about my storage drive. Who uses a home phone number? I can't even
text that. So, I'm going to I'm going to just Oh, man. I'm going to play every
game in the book. SSD on Craigslist. Um,
I can come get it today if you can do $30. Do you have anything else for sale?
I'm trying to build a budget gaming PC for a friend of mine who's moving away.
Who could say no to someone trying to buy a present? Maybe next time it'll be
like my sick sister or something. She broke her arm and she can't go out much,
so we're getting her gaming computer. Look, you might be judging me
here, but I have a competition to win,
so yeah, I did say no holds barred. This
is the guy with the lots of older computer stuff. Um, come, he says, come
take a look. Should we just Should we just go check it out? Okay, I've come across an interesting discovery. There's
a 7950 GX2. That's a dual GPU card. The
guy's asking 25 bucks. If I can get that
for like $10 or something, I could be in
really good shape. No, that's a DirectX9
part. Okay. I knew I knew when we were
choosing the benchmarks that we should have gone with something older than Far
Cry 4, but it looks like you have to run
it on DX10 or DX11 hardware. So, right
now I've switched from buying that um
that R9 280 to an R9200 or 290. I
haven't told the 280 guy yet because the 290 guy seems a little bit flaky. So,
I'm think I'm going to wait until I get a actual confirm from him. So, the next
problem we have is just having to power these two 7950s. So, I started looking
around. There are not a lot of power supplies. We might be able to find something used, but just out of
curiosity, I looked on NCX. It's going to be like $97 to get like a Corsair
CX750. We might end up having to buy some new stuff because the the options
on Craigslist are not as as solid as I was hoping. Um, and plus there a lot of
these people think that stuff is worth way more than it actually is. So, we're super stressed on time right now. Um, so
much so that we're having delicious sushi because um, you know, we got this.
Okay, so I found something decent here. So, this guy has an older computer, but
he's willing to part it out. So, we get a Cool Master case with a DV writer for
20 bucks, and there's a power supply, a 500 watt power supply for 30 bucks. That
can work, but I don't think the 7950 is not going to be enough to power them.
What if we get two really cheap power
supplies? Oh, and like tape one to the top or
something. Yeah, dude. That would be so cool. So, like we basically just like
have like one 500 watt power supply in the system and like we like tape another one to the top just to power the other
graphics card. I almost want to do that purely because of how ridiculous it
would be. It might not even save us any money, but that would be awesome. Uh,
now we're going to go try to hit up some local computer stores. Maybe try to find
like some used cases. Uh, we still need like a motherboard and memory. Um, okay.
So, I did not realize this is going to be an Apple specialist.
I mean, we're here. We might as well
try. Yo, you have the MacBook, right?
Okay. Um, so slight change of plans. We just left the MacBook at the restaurant.
No big deal, but uh that was my bad. So,
let's uh try to get back to the air before uh this MacBook gets
stolen. I can't believe I just walked off. That's Neither of us saw that,
right? Next time on Scrapyard Wars,
Luke's mom finally gets her revenge on Lionus. Austin's surprise visit from a
friendly grizzly bear turns hairy.
Lionus reveals the deep, dark secret behind his obsession with sandals. Dude,
we're stupid. Mostly me, but still. We
totally just left the brand new MacBook sitting at the table. Oh god, this is
terrible.
Oh man. All right, let's see what this thing got. Oh man, I can't believe we
just did that. We just totally just left a brand new laptop just sitting on the
table. Oh my god, that would be so bad if it if it's gone. Oh no. Don't Don't
talk like that, man. I can't believe we just did
that. All right, please be there.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
We deserve that. That was dumb. We even left the leftovers. I like how she even
got us the leftovers.
This guy's trying to sell a dead GTX 480. I was like, GTX 480, 30 bucks. I am
going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to I'm going to lowball them. I'm
going to offer like 15 bucks cuz this has been listed for quite some time. I'm
going to tell the guy that I need it for a school project to fix it and that I
can't afford to pay for it. I'm going to try and get it for free. All right. I heard back from the uh 280X guy from
before. 160 he says is the lowest he can do on that. So, that might put that out
of our price range if we can get something like a GTX 280 or 285 for 30
to 40 bucks. I don't think that's going to perform four times better. Oh, shoot.
The SSD for 39 bucks. Someone's apparently coming tonight at 630 for it.
Okay, maybe I should find out if I should offer a bit more than asking.
I'll find out what other SSDs are going for cuz the fact that someone's coming
to pick it up means it's definitely worth the 40 bucks. Okay, there are like
no SSDs on Craigslist. Okay, so we're running into
a bit of a dead end on our SSD search. The one that I wanted on Craigslist that
I contacted Oh, he's gotten back to me. Who? He wants me there by 3 p.m.
We're done. Okay. Yeah, let's do it. I'm
giving him a call. The other guy was going to come at 12:00 and then he said
he couldn't come till 6:30 and if I still had it, that'd be great kind of
thing. And so uh so I had replied to 1
minute before getting yours. So I thought, okay, I think I can respond
with with uh if someone comes before it.
So we are on our way to go get the SSD that I sniped. Some guy was supposed to
show up at 12 and then rescheduled to 6:30. I sent in a lowball offer, but I'm
getting it for asking if I come before that guy. So, I'm on my way there, but
I'm a little bit worried, too, because this gives me only two days left and I
haven't even compiled my graphics card price to performance database yet. We
got to drive 45 minutes. Then, as soon as we are done there, we got to meet up
with someone else where I don't even know what they have. And that gives me 2
days to compile my graphics card price to performance database, figure out what
card I'm buying, hope that Austin and Luke haven't bought it yet, and then go
get it. Uh, not to mention the rest of the components. One thing I'm a little
worried about is, so I'm asking some of these guys like, "Hey, are you available
tomorrow to be picked up?" Um, because it's 3:00 right now. It's a little kind
of actually sketchy because a lot of people are, you know, getting off work around 5:00 or so. So, I wonder what we
actually are going to do about that restriction because it would be really really bad if like a lot of the stuff
was available, but it's like, "Oh, can we meet at like six o'clock or something?" So, in that case, cheating
question mark question mark question mark. Um, we were just uh just just
hanging out. I I haven't had a lot of time to hang out with my buddy Ed. So,
we just we wanted to hang out, catch up. Um, think about just like how much Lion
is cheating cuz he's cheating. Oh, yes. Yeah, he's cheating a ton. So, he did on
both the last ones, right? Yeah. So, it seems like a safe bet. I wonder should we cheat, too? Does that that make
sense? We should all cheat, right? Yeah. Let's cheat, right? You're cheating, of
course. Right. I'm actually not. Well, well, I'm not either, but I just assume
like in theory that you should probably be cheating. If Lance is doing it, we
should be doing it, too. Just saying that. So, have fun. Thank you. Okay, so
I just messaged the guy for the 290. I told him I can be there for 10:30. So,
hopefully that works out. I really really hope the guy with the setup that
I want to buy the motherboard CPU cooler
and CPU messages me back because that would work out just great. So now that
Luke's back, we need to be way more stealthy. I don't know. Was he here for
a while? Did he hear us talking about anything? He's too nice to do that. He
wasn't listening. Okay, I don't think I said anything. I think we're good.
Luke's nice. He wouldn't cheat. So $7970
for $100. And I think the best part is this. So, we have an a Z77 saber-tooth
board for $30. The reason it's $30 is because two of the RAM slots don't work.
But we don't care about that. What we care about is not only is it also in
this place that's right by the 7970, but
30 bucks. Let's find a more private place. Can you go upstairs or something?
I'm looking. You're looking the other way. That's I don't actually have
anything here. You guys left your stuff on the freaking table, didn't you? Yeah.
Is that your guys' stuff? No.
What are you doing? Why' you abandon your stuff?
Wow. They think uh the box is uh on the set.
What were they? Uh that was a system Lionus and I built on Saturday. So those
are actually our new parts and they're sitting there. Do we need to like make sure they think that? Uh here. Hang on.
Just come with me. Let let me uh just subtly try to like sneak that computer
away.
So stealthy. Wow.
Hey, I just wanted to call and warn you. I saw some like sketchy looking dudes
running through the warehouse with some computer parts. Uh they're they're
running around with what looked like new computer parts, so I'm sure it's not yours cuz you're probably smart enough
to buy old computer parts. Thanks, man. Yeah. No, I appreciate it. But actually, we haven't bought anything yet. We're
just uh we're just strategizing today. We wouldn't We were just cleaning up.
You told me earlier that you had bought everything. Well, we bought everything
in our minds, but we were not going to really get around to actually picking it up till tomorrow. So, don't worry about
it. Oh, okay. Yeah, cool. Sorry about that. We're just cleaning up the office.
I'm just making sure you guys are okay. Oh, of course, dude. We're golden. We're just cleaning up the office, making sure
that everything's nice and neat and tidy. That's fair. That's fair. I
appreciate that. Thanks a lot. Uh, have a good one. Okay, now that we can talk
freely, we need to work out a few more things. Um, none of these people have
gotten back to me, which is still a little stressful, but um, so if we get
this Core i3, we would need a uh, heat sink for it. We would need the memory,
and we would need some kind of drive, whether it's a hard drive or SSD. we
might be able to swing an SSD. Um, I mean, max we're going to pay is $60 for
a brand new SSD, so I feel like we could probably get something cheaper, but if
not, it's not the end of the world. Um, so we're looking at probably like a $300
build right now. That's actually not that bad. Officially sent my offer to
the guy that wants to tell to sell me the motherboard, CPU, and cooler for 80
bucks. So, we'll see what he says about that. Uh, he told me earlier that he
won't be able to check to see if he has RAM until 7:00 tonight. So, I'm not
going to make any final purchasing decisions on memory until he gets back
to me then. Um, but I'm looking for some leads for memory right now. I also told
them if you have some cheap low-end p uh
hard drive laying around to let me know. Um, so right now I'm messaging a
different dude who ended up being Kevin's used computers or something like
that. It's a used computer store around here for a power supply. I'm hoping I
can get one fairly cheap off of him. And
yeah, just trying to do some leg work on some other stuff, but we're doing pretty good. Pretty good. I think Brian and I
are going to stop and get lunch pretty soon here. All right, so we got a 120
gig SSD for $38 Canadian, my friends.
That could win us this competition if it
helps us win PC Mark. And the guy with the broken 480 wants it for
$25. $25 for what? It's broken. It's
legit broken. So, I offered him 10. All
right. So, we're rolling around to the literal back alley here. Holy crap. What
the hell is this? It's a crack fight,
right? Oh, I don't know, man.
Oh, okay. And this one. Okay. When uh
you don't want people fishing through this bin if they don't know what they're
doing. That's an exposed power supply. If you accidentally bridge a contact on
that, there's capacitors. Someone could actually die. Okay, that that was some
legit like scrapyard digging. I found a
literal pile of SRON CPUs. Okay, I've
got 4 gigs of DDR2. I've got a Core2 Quad
Q6600. Yes, my friends, I have a
Q6600. and potentially I have an ASUS
Commando board if any of it works. I
spent $60 of my budget on stuff where I
am legit really not sure if any of it
works, but uh I also got an Anttech
Smart Power 450 W power supply with a PCI Express power
connector. All right, so so far my brilliant strategy of lowballing
everyone is not going too well. Not getting a ton of replies and this one
guy is extremely combative here.
Something about why would you offer less than half? You looking to get told off?
So, I'm kind of thinking I'm going to come back with asking price was out to
lunch. Not my fault. People don't know what their stuff is worth. Here's a card
that performs better with multiple ones listed for 50ish. Good luck with your
sale, bruh.
Some might say that this is cheating.
I would respond with that I don't think that
they understand scrapyard
wars because I got something from the
scrap and I'm turning it into a
thing. And if that isn't the meaning of scrapyard wars, then I don't know what
is. No way. We just heard back from the guy with the
$2568.50. That is by far our best one
yet. with other people telling me off about asking my mom for money. We've
done awesome. We have a Oh, my iced tea
is running down the roof. Oh, no. Uh, maybe I can get it. Hold on. Really?
Yeah. I'm going to pull over.
Hazards. Hold on. Maybe it's Maybe it's still up there. I don't think it is.
Maybe it's still up there. Ah, damn it.
You lost your iced tea? Yeah, it's all over the roof of the car.
Okay, so an email from the Z77 people who just came in. I have more than 10
people emailing me about it, but I don't have time to meet in Sky Train station
and stuff. Only time available this week is tomorrow 11:5 and I have someone who
said he is coming. So if you're really interested, come around 11:00 and email me before you come. I think we got to
need to go AMD cuz I think what's helping us a lot with the AMD cards is
the fact that tons of people are using them for like Bitcoin and Litecoin mining, which means that there's tons of
these cards around and they're pretty cheap because they've been abused. So,
that's helping us a lot. So, that's why there's so many 7950 and 7970s out here.
But, um, none of these people are getting back to me. If we do the i3 and
the 7970, we're talking 280. If we bump
that up to a Core i5 and a 6990, we're looking at 420. Actually, 419. So, uh,
but the problem is the power supply. We absolutely need some kind of other power
supply for this. So, we're talking about a lot more money. But a Core i5 6990,
that's pretty solid. and we're still talking about definitely well under
$500. Okay, so I just texted the guy about the $6990. So if we do the 6990
and the Core i5, the little power supply that we have is not going to work. So
what we might have to do is go back to the idea of putting an extra power
supply on the top of the rig and just wiring it straight for the graphics card. In fact, it would be powering up
half the graphics card. Uh probably not the smartest idea. It should work in
theory. Okay, so to recap, we have a Core i5 2400 at Kevin's used computer.
We also can get a 250 gig hard drive there. Most likely, we can get some kind
of cheap power supply as a secondary for our uh for our graphics card. Um, we
have a case. We have our second power supply. We have a motherboard. We have
the memory, which we can just pick up at NCX. It's like 30 bucks. No big deal.
Um, and we have the graphics card, which we will pick up in Richmond at some
point. I will text the guy here in a minute. $ 69.90. That sounds like a
computer to me. Are we forgetting anything? Was that salvageable? Did I
just salvage that? We got the motherboard to mount. It works. The
spacing is okay. The power supply will mount here or up here. So, it's the
actual power supply that I get is probably going to be a little bit longer. So, let's say it goes to here.
Cables come out of here. Cut it this way. Cut it this way. Um, but I want to
build a wall that I can sit against. I'm going to cut it with a circular saw.
Okay. So, this isn't me helping. This is me making sure he doesn't cut his own
hand off.
Looks like you're hard at work over here. I'm done. Are you happy, Austin?
I'm happy that you're 5 minutes late. I'm very happy. I think I'm going to get
some extra time. So, you got some uh some wood going on. It's a smart move
for computer build. I I I usually have wood. I just thought I'd incorporate in
a build. I mean, it's natural like you want to you make sure. Yeah, of course.
One thing I wanted to use power tools in a good safe environment. Um, second
thing, it's only 5 minutes and it's supposed to be transit time and I'm
already here. So, I don't really think it's that big of a deal. Not going over time. Also, to be fair, you were in my
space when I could have been working. I No, I don't think so. I also think
you're not supposed to be in my space. I'm pretty sure. And I believe I asked
you to leave and you did not. You can't say that the outside is your space. You
can't say that the entire outside is your space. You worked in two different
areas of the office. I needed tools from over there and couldn't go over there
cuz your parts were over there. So, I waited until later. Oh. Oh, well, okay.
I got to say, thank you for not looking at all the parts that I bought.
Wait, I thought you didn't buy any parts. I didn't buy parts. Zero. Zero
parts. Nothing bought whatsoever. I'm just having fun. And uh this is all for
a good sport. Don't worry about it. Does Luke have enough wood? Does the crack
pipeline found still work? Find out next time on Scrapyard Wars. All right, so it
is the beginning of day two. And the very first thing we need to do is check email. Someone who emailed ahead of you
has confirmed he is coming to buy it first thing in the morning. So don't come out before phoning me around 11:00
and make sure it's still available. This is Luke. I know it. It is absolutely
Luke. Oh man, we're not going to have enough time, dude. This guy. What? The
guy with the 7950s replied back. So, wait. We can get the
7950s. Oh, no. We don't have time for this right now. We have to We have to go
right now. Oh, this is for the case. It
the guy's local, so it should not be that
far. 25 minutes away. Day two of Scrapyard Wars. So, we are going to get
that graphics card that I talked about yesterday, the R9290
uh Gigabyte Wind Force. And then I have bad news. The
motherboard CPU and cooler platform guy responded
saying that he had a lot of 2 GB stick
of RAM, which is good news. turn left.
And then also told me that he forgot to
bring it to work with him today and that he might not be able to tomorrow. So I
was distracted trying to uh have Brandon email motherboard guy.
Uh so I went the wrong way on the highway. So I'm going to pick up the
graphics card. We're at BCIT. He's waiting. I'm late. I'm going to go.
I actually heard back from a fair number of my lowball graphics card offers. So,
it's a good thing I did this before running out and picking up that $20
video card that I arranged yesterday, cuz if I can find something better, I'm
going to just bail on that guy. So, first up, we've got a GTX 460 for 30
bucks. The guy came down from or up from my offer of 20. GTX 550 Ti. Nah, sorry.
This card is too good for $35. Lol. 7870. $40 firm for a broken card. What
an idiot. What a freaking duel. This guy
didn't reply to any of my questions. Are you really the line of Sebastian from
NCX? Okay, so no useful leads
whatsoever. Let's get down to business. So, I decided I'm going to go
for the oneot, you know, home run swing
right off the bat here. I'm going to load literally all of this hardware up
and I'm going to see if it boots. And if it does, then I am in really good shape
for the rest of the day. And if it doesn't, and we got nothing. Oh, I knew
this motherboard wasn't going to work. Why did I even let myself think it might
falls? Another shot here with a proper power supply and see if maybe that's the
issue. the display on the back. It actually has a post read out back here,
but I can bar No
way. We
got an ASUS ROG
board, 4 gigs of working
DDR2, a
Q6600, and a broken power supply, which I'm totally okay
with for 60 bucks.
So, I know what we're doing today. We
need to obtain a new power supply. Okay,
I'm okay with that. We need to obtain a case. And what's great about that is
it's really easy to find a case power supply combo. So, we need to go out and
get a case power supply combo. We still need to potentially find a graphics
card, but I'm going to find out about that in a minute here.
Maybe we should spend some of our time obtaining a better cooler, cuz the Q6600
can run pretty hot when you overclock it. So, having a really beefy cooler on
there could be the ace up our sleeve. We got to go. We might just lose
the motherboard right now. Do we bail on this guy and try to get a different
case? Okay, so it is 10:09 and
everything is already going completely wrong. Um, I'm pretty sure Luke is
getting our motherboard right now. And I just realized the guy who has the case,
who's supposedly local, is actually 25 minutes away. And this guy's expecting
us to like show up in like 5 minutes. We
might be a little screwed here. The good thing that might save us is that we have
leads on both a 6990 and a pair of 7950s. Both of which should be doable.
Absolutely. So, I think what we're going to do is we're going to go to this guy's house, pick up the case and the power
supply, and then what we're going to do is we're going to go and grab um see
what kind of stuff we can get at the computer shop because that's uh we don't
have any other appointments. I don't think we might. Um
yeah, we'll go to the computer shop and see what we can find. If that guy has a good motherboard, then we should be able
to either pull off the 7950 or the 6990s, but it's going to be tricky. So,
I have bad news and great news. The bad news is motherboard system guy still
hasn't messaged me back. Good news is I got the graphics card for $180. I saved
20 bucks. How did I do that? Well, I
checked out the card before he gave it to me. It's a 290. Everything's fine.
But there's one little oddity. When I
went to go take it out of the bag, I noticed this. There's no
screws right there. There's one screw
holding the plate on here, but it's missing a screw here and it's missing
two screws here and two screws here. So, I was like, that's kind of weird and
started complaining and he gave me 20 bucks off. So, I got a 290 aftermarket
cooled card for $180, which is pretty sick. I just need
to make sure that I have a computer to put it in.
It is time to call FreeGeek and see how
much they can save my ass. Hopefully entirely. One thing we do have going for
us is that uh Luke Linus and I we all had a chat this morning and basically
the idea is is that we're all going to try to have all of our parts by the end
of the day. But if we don't have everything today, we're going to have
until noon tomorrow. So basically we'll have 2 hours tomorrow to go and get any
last minute parts we need. So, we should be able to get everything
today and we'll do the build off tomorrow. So, we don't really have to worry about putting the together the
systems. Although, I know Luke has already got started on his. Sounded like
that. Anyway, okay. So, we're here. We're about to pick up the case. Um,
hopefully we don't get murdered. This is the first time we've actually used Craigslist for this whole trip. So,
let's get some money and hopefully have a case. Hey. Hi. How's it going, Austin?
Oh, thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah, I don't accept returns. I'll make sure
everything well before you take it. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. It is
officially begun. We have our case and I've got to say it's actually way more beacon than I thought it was. So, see
here. Oh, it's got a lock on it. There we
go. That's actually pretty solid. And he showed me the power supply does work. We
have a 120 fan in the back. Actually, is that one in the front? No. Still though.
Oh, we even have a SATA cable front panel. All right, I think we're in
business. It's a little beat up, but it'll totally do. For 25 bucks, it's a
good start. So, the guy with the Sabertooth motherboard replied. He'll
let me know if it's sold or not. He got multiple replies, and I have the first
who first responded the first chance. He should be here shortly, and if he
doesn't show up, it'll be yours. It's not about getting more money, but more of a promise to keep. It will be yours
for the same price. If other guys doesn't show up, so 7950 guy just
replied, basically, we're kind of out of luck on this, too. He doesn't get home
till 7:00. He could do it tomorrow, but
that would eat up the little bit of time we would have and we'd have to drive
like an hour out of the way. So, there is a 6990. It's $180. So, we're going to
meet him at 2:00. So, I just got the $200 R9290 for 180 bucks because it was
missing a couple screws on the IO plate,
which while they're nice to have, the
card will run without it. Um, and I'm hoping that there might be some spare
ones for that in the in the spare screw bin at work.
Um, the motherboard and system guy still
has not messaged me back. He's at work.
I can't be mad, but this guy is getting a little frustrating to deal with. He's
never I gave him my phone number. He keeps on saying he's going to text me,
and he has not. Um, and that would be a lot easier to communicate with him over
text messages. Uh, he said he was going to check for RAM last night. He did. Uh,
I also told him to bring the stuff to work so that I could pick it up from him
at work and he did not because he
apparently forgot or didn't read that email or something. Kind of think he
just forgot. So, I've got a graphics card and I've got a line on a power
supply which I'm going to pick up later today. Other than that, it's unknown.
And the FreeGeek stock is really starting to freak me out. So, my new
plan is I'm going to go to FreeGeek, figure out what they have. If they have
everything I need, which is very unlikely, but if they do, I'll just pick
it all up. If they don't, I will just kind of post up probably near FreeGeek
in the car, do as much research as I can online, try to plan all the appointments
I can for the stuff that I can, and then fill out the holes that I can't find
with stuff at FreeGeek. Hopefully, that will work. Um, I had a lot of backup
plans last night and most of them are
gone now, but there's still a few that seem to be on the fence of guys that
have 6600s and other various quad cores.
So, in straight might not be screwed. Just
really depends on what's at free
gig. Yeah. Interested in QC600. interested in a board that it can go in
and a fairly low capacity hard drive.
So, our options right now, this is actually way better than I expected.
This place is super cool, is um $30 for
an Intel DG43 GT. Did she say 35 and not
55? So, I've got an ASUS P5Q
motherboard, a Q6600, a 120, 160, I
don't remember, a gigabyte hard drive spinning at uh 7200 RPM, and it was a
little vague, but I think 8 gigs of RAM all for 100 bucks. I'm a little bit
worried that this thing isn't going to work at all. As you guys saw there, there was like Tim in the CPU socket and
she rubbed the pins on the board and did
the But anyways, I think it'll I think
this will be good. Okay, so I'm throwing my Windows 7 test build on here to find
out what exactly this graphics card is. I cannot believe
we can't believe that board works. All
right. I do have to say one cool thing about the MacBook Air is that I forgot
to charge it. Used it a bunch yesterday. It's at like 65% battery. It's cray
cray. Oh, wow. It's a sound
driver. AIO. What caused the problem?
Interesting. Does this even
Oh. Oh, wow. Um, we might have to go
back to our buddy there and get a sound
card. This motherboard doesn't have onboard sound.
So, today's going well so far. I have determined that my motherboard by some
freaking miracle works. Uh, the RAM is
all correctly detected. The CPU is correctly detected. It even has drivers
for up to Windows 8.1. So, we're going to be able to run all of our benchmarks.
I have arranged to go out and pick up the graphics card that we figured out
yesterday. And I've reached out to back
alley crackpipe computer owner guy about
going and getting a sound card because that is the thing that probably had that
motherboard in the scrap heap. I don't have a sound card for it. So, if we hear
back from him, maybe we can get a case while we're there, which leaves us with
the optional step of obtaining a power
supply because I could use the one from the computer inside. And that is about
it. We're in really good shape. It is time to boogie. So, I'm just going to
cover up my progress so
far and head out. All right. So, we are
here at the computer store and hopefully
we can get a lot of what we need because we need
um roughly everything right now. So,
let's give it a
try. Hey, so basically we were able to
get a lot of what we needed. So, we were able to get a Core i7 2600 not
overclockable as well as the motherboard. So, it will support Crossfire. So, we're good with the 6990.
Um, but the most important thing is we've got a seriously powerful CPU. We
have a seriously powerful graphics card. We have a 160 gig hard drive because 15
bucks and we just need it to run benchmarks. It's not really going to make a difference. And we have our
second power supply. So, this is actually a pretty beefy supply. It
actually has an 8 pin and a six pin. So, basically right now, I think we're in
pretty good shape. I think once we like glue this or tape this up to the top of
the case, we're going to be set. So, let's go do it. Okay, so they had a
problem mounting the stock heat sink. Um, but the price is good, so I really
want to make sure it works. So, they let me back into their testing area, which
is awesome, and letting us film, which is awesome. FreeGeek is awesome. I need
to mount this thing, though. Yeah, it's I think the heat sink
has a problem. That really sucks cuz something
that I do know doesn't work is this top
slot. But they say that this one works.
I want to make sure it works before I leave.
Uh the the arm is broken off. That's why it won't sit. Yeah, that explains a lot.
I hate these freaking stock heat sinks, man. That's one side in. So, the whole
right side went in no problem at all. The whole right side's in. The left
side, on the other hand, is
just not working out for me very well.
I'm having second thoughts about my video card matrix strategy. What I
realized is I'm calculating FPS per
dollar as a function of only the cost of
the graphics card. I have not factored
in the rest of the computer. So if a
graphics card costs $10 more, that doesn't mean that if I'm
spending $20, I'm spending 50% more. I better get 50% more FPS. That means that
compared to the rest of the cost of the system, I
might be spending 10% more. I only have to get 10% more
FPS. So basically, the more expensive
graphics cards might be totally worthwhile, even if they don't score as
many FPS per dollar compared to a low-end one. Next time on Scrapyard
Wars, Dennis nearly gets deported.
So basically, the more expensive graphics cards might be totally
worthwhile, even if they don't score as many FPS per dollar compared to a
low-end one. You know what the stupidest thing
about me screwing up that formula is? is
that's exactly the formula that I used to use when I worked retail computer
sales to help people understand how, you
know, buying something that cost twice as much might effectively give them a
way better value than if they bought something for half as much.
Like if you're buying a $1,000 computer, spending an extra $100 on a graphics
card that performs 30% better is still
30% more performance for 10% more budget
in the grand scheme of things. But I like forgot. And the really frustrating
thing right now is that even if we
hadn't already been late to meet this guy twice, so I feel like I really have
to go meet him. Even if that weren't the
case, I still have to go right now. I
have no time to go and plug some more cards into an updated formula and find
out how they compare before I have to go
meet him now. So, I basically could end up stuck with a $20 paper weight by the
end of this. I didn't bring my cash.
It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Hello. Nice to meet you. Thank you. This is uh
this is going to really help me a lot. I
have money. Sweet. I also have a sweater. Awesome. I couldn't find a
t-shirt, so it's a hoodie. That's all right. It's even better. Cool beads.
Vote for Ter. Sweet. Awesome. We just heard back.
Not that I'm touching that. Uh we just heard back from the back alley guy.
I think we've got a lead on a sound card. I'm going to offer him like five
bucks. So, we need to be in Richmond in
an hour and it's going to take us about 40 minutes to drive out there. So, we
should be good on time. And that's pretty much it. Last thing we're going
to have to do is go over and pick up some memory, which I think NCX is actually going to be the cheapest way.
There's not a whole lot of like cheap used memory. So, yeah, I feel like we're
doing really good. We just need the graphics card and as long as that works
and everything should be fine there, then we're going to be good. So, let's
go.
Hey, so that's the top slot. So, everything's good. So, just got out of
FreeGeek Vancouver. I was pretty worried about that store and they ended up being
amazing. All I need left is a power supply and I've spent $280. I should
have asked about a power
supply. 700 W.
Some sketchy brands, too. I forgot I needed a power supply. Oh,
yeah. Um, how much for this guy? This one. Is it from one cable? Can I just
put them together from one? Yeah, I can just put them together. And then it has a I need Yeah, I need 6 plus two and I
need six, which it has. Awesome. Okay,
so give me one second. How much did you say? 30 bucks. There you go. Thank you.
So, done. I guess FreeGeek just cleaned
me out for what was it? Uh $130. I got a
550 watt power supply, a Q6600, a 160 GB
hard drive, a 775 motherboard, and 8 gigs of RAM. So that
means my final total comes
to 180 + 30, so 210 plus $100 $310. So,
I'm $10 over the original Scrapyard Wars
budget and have a way better computer.
Yes. Okay. I keep telling myself I'm just going to stop looking. I'm going to
go back and test the cards, but I keep I
keep looking anyway. I mean, I just saw a
790 listed or a 7970 listed for
$100. Even factoring in my $20 loss on
that card, that's an FPS per dollar of
almost 0.4. That would be the winner if I could
get it. I mean, here's something totally stupid. Here's a $69.990 in Richmond.
Surely this guy doesn't think he's actually going to get $180 for that. So,
why don't we send a text? Okay, so after the 18-hour drive to where we are right
now, Richmond. Richmond. After the 18 hour drive to Richmond, give or take 17
hours, we're here. But we're actually here 20 minutes early. So, the dude
lives in one of these apartment buildings over here. So, I guess we just
wait for him. Oh, dude, there's a Toys R Us over there. 20 minutes in Toys R Us.
Hi, I'm calling about the 690 you have listed on Craigslist. Do you still have
that? Yeah, I do. But, uh there's a guy is picking up uh this afternoon. Um if
he uh doesn't shows up, I will give you a call. How's that? Um, do you know the
name of the guy picking it up? No, I don't. Oh, okay. Yeah, I think uh he's
not likely to pick up though. Uh, cuz
he's using a California numbers. So, I I don't know
it's a fraud or or what. Oh, okay. Um,
cuz I can come like I can come like right now cuz I I have made uh a promise
to him. So, I will wait till 2. If he doesn't shows up, then uh it's yours.
Okay. Uh how much did he offer?
It's 180. Oh, okay. Okay. I'd have to
figure Okay. Um Okay. Can you can you call me at 2 if
he if he doesn't come get it by two? Sure. Yeah. I will wait by half an hour
or something like that. Where are Where do you live? Well, I live out in
Langley. So, the sooner you can let me know, the sooner I can start driving cuz
I really need it today. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I will give you a
call. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Okay. Bye.
California. California. Okay. Austin's
number. Going to pick up a 69.990 in the
city. City city of Richmond. He is rocking a
6990. Okay. Interesting. So, we're at the guy's place. Um, he's going to let
us test the card. The problem is, do we film it? Because I feel super sketchy
going in some random guy's house as he's testing a graphics card for me and saying, "By the way, can we film?" I
don't know. What do you think? Well, I think our intention is to make a video.
Video is very important. We should push like we're asking, right? Is it is it of
privacy if we ask? Hold on. But if we say we want to record, what happens? He
goes, "Oh, well, I want twice as much money for the car." And we say, "Well,
we don't have a choice, dude. Record the video." No, no, no. But like if he knows
like this is not just some random couple guys who want to build a computer, like what if he decides like he wants to
raise the price or something? I just really don't like recording in like people's houses or like in I don't like
recording in places where people don't like let me which I guess that's why
you're asking. We don't have to tell them that we're shooting a YouTube
video. We can just be like, "Hey, uh like can we just document this?" Oh, I
forgot the money. Can we catch this? That might be
a little helpful in buying a graphics card.
So, now we know Austin's after that card. Part of me wants to snipe it just
to totally him, but the other part of me
is actually not even sure if that's that
great of a card. So, we can plug this into the formula. So, $69.90 at
$180 would be approximately a
6970* 2ish. So, that's 57. So, let's say
times 1.8. Those games should scale like
pretty well. So about 102. So if he's paying 180 bucks for
that. Oh, that is a that see that's a better performance index than I'm
getting.
36. Damn it, Austin. Well, if I can
snipe it, I'm going to. All right, so looks like everything
works. So, we're here testing out the 6990. Everything looks like it's running
great on Diablo II. So, we're pretty much good there. Um, now pretty much all
that's left for today is we need to go pick up some memory and we'll be good to go. So, we might just have this build
ready. Boom. So, we successfully have an S XFX Radeon 6990. This is a huge card
look compared to me. So, yeah, I think
we're looking good right now. Um, so at this point, we pretty much just need to
go to Intel X and pick up 4 gigs of RAM, which shouldn't be a big problem. Um,
that's the only kind of slight question right now is how much RAM do we actually
want to get. Um, so 4 gigs is going to be a lot cheaper, but we might have some
stuttering issues. I think Far Cry 4 is the thing that we're kind of a little worried about right now. So, it's going
to be like, do we want to go for it or not? I kind of want to play it a little
risky. So, I think we might go with 4 gigs of RAM, especially if they end up
making me pay for tax, which I don't want to have to do. So, but most
important thing, we have an awesome graphics card, so we're set
mostly. I've got to say, now that we've got this beefy graphics card, I'm
feeling way better. At this point, we really only need the memory, and that
should be like the easiest thing ever to get. So, putting in work right now,
especially considering how cheap this was. I mean, this was like a $600
graphics card. $700 graphics card just a few years ago. We got this thing for
less than 200. So, I don't know. I feel
like if we win this, it's going to be because of this card. And if we lose
this, it's going to be because of this card. But I think we're going to win
this because of this card. So, we've had a troubling morning.
We got our graphics card that I thought was a great deal. Turns
out that according to my corrected
calculations, it was actually not a very good deal. And we got some very useful
Intel on what our competitors are doing. So Austin is going high performance and
he's going dual GPU, which I really wish
I had looked up the 6990. I looked up almost every other dual GPU solution
yesterday by keyword. This one's been listed for a month and Austin offered
asking price. He's getting a $69.90 for
180 bucks, which by my calculation is
going to cream me. So, we're on our way back to the
office. We're going to test what we have, make sure it's running. I am going
to do some shopping, try and find a better graphics card deal. And if I can
find something that'll allow me to eat the $20 I wasted, then I will go out and
get it before I meet the uh the back alley guy again at 4 today. Dude, the NC
X is right there. It's right in that.
Okay. So, do you want to drive over there or do you just want to walk it?
What? Let's go get our memory now. Dude, I'm feeling pretty pumped. I really
think that we're actually doing really good here. 8 gigs of RAM is way too That's crazy for a Scrapyard War system.
We got crazy. It's pretty crazy. We got to save money, dude. This is price to
performance. This is serious business. We got to We got to go for 4 gig. See if
there's any other 4 gig just in
case. Okay.
20 30 five. There you go. Just got the 4
gig stick of the Corsair memory. So, won't be super fast. Won't be a ton of
memory, but it should be just enough to get through. If the number is 162, I'll
be out. Okay. Awesome, man. Appreciate it. We're good.
Root beer. All right, we have officially all of our parts right now. So, to
recap, we picked up the case and one of our power supplies for $25 this morning.
We went to a computer shop, we got our CPU, our motherboard, we've got the heat
sink, we got another power supply, and
we got a hard drive. We got the graphics
card just now and we just picked up the $30 kit of 4 gig memory as Ed's on the
spot flying it out right here. So, we have all the parts and we bought them all today and everything went pretty
well actually. It is 238 right now. So,
not only do we have over 2 hours left, but we get to enjoy a delicious root
beer. Well, you do. You're too cheap to get me
one. Oh, yeah. So, I accidentally I just bought this out of the scrapyard wars
budget. So, all the parts we bought plus like $2 for root beer.
Oops. This tastes pretty sweet, though. I think it was kind of worth
it. Okay, I'm a little nervous right
now. Here we
go. What is that?
This guy sell us a dead graphics card.
Anyway, so the good news is that we've found a lead on a graphics card that
even if I have to throw away the $20 I spent
on this will put me back out ahead or at
least even with Austin for FPS per
dollar. But I haven't heard from the guy in about half an hour. So I'm really
hoping I hear back soon. The bad news is
our power supply we hoped would work is dead. Which means that our 400 watt
backup power supply is only
borderline capable of even supporting a
7970 if we get it. There's also more bad
news. It looks like our 6850 might
actually be dead, which could also be good news because that gives us $20 back
in our pocket if we can get a refund.
Um, I'm liking Austin's chances, but never count Luke out. I mean, he might
show up with some completely bizarro thing. Next time on Scrapyard Wars,
Austin gets a tennis shot. Luke gets captured by Vikings and Lionus runs over
a dog. Okay, so we're back from FreeGeek. We
got a whole bunch of our parts. We've got a 7775 motherboard, 8 gigs of RAM, a
Q6600, 160 GB hard drive, and a 550 W
BFG Tech power supply. Uh, everything here I've tested except for the power
supply and the graphics card. So, hopefully that all works out.
Um, right now what I'm trying to set up to do is hook all this stuff up in this
corner. I'm going to try to get a monitor and keyboard and mouse over here, too. And then I'm gonna have my
other desk where I'm doing my woodworking stuff right here so that
while this is running like Windows updates and junk, I can hopefully work
on that so that once this is kind of done doing Windows updates and junk, I
can mount it onto the wooden board. And then hoping tomorrow that I can more
focus on overclocking and stuff all day because I really want to get that down.
I think I can overclock this card a bit. I think I can overclock that CPU a bit.
So I want to take advantage of that extra performance. So, the one shitty
thing about not having the screws here is worth the 20 bucks for sure, but is
that I can't screw in my DVI cable. So,
it just goes to there cuz normally there's a screw in there that I would screw into. Um, so that's fine. If I
really wanted to, I could use DisplayPort or
HDMI. Um, but I'm just going to use DVI for now because it's the cable that I
have, but I'm going to try to find screws to put in here just cuz it would
be good form, not cuz it's actually really needed, I guess. Here goes
nothing. Oh, I was trying to document the issue
with this graphics card, but since we changed to my test bench power
supply, it's actually fine now, which is
pretty bad news because what that means
is that our ghetto power supply works fine
with a card that it's not plugged directly into, but then doesn't work
with a card that requires auxiliary power, which means our 7970
might not run off this power supply. Even if it is rated at enough wattage,
it might just be too crappy. I'm muted. Damn it, Taran. How
long have I been muted? Um, have I been muted since I like went
to the bathroom a billion years ago? Now, because I've actually got some time
to spend with my CPU. The rules for overclocking are that you can have an
overclock, but as soon as you run into stability issues during the testing
phase, you have to turn off your overclock and run again. You don't get
to like try and dial it in a little bit lower. So, it's working. I guess this is
good news and that it's a working graphics card and that the power supply
is powering it, but bad news and that I'm not getting my 20 bucks back. If I
want to know if it'll work with a 7970, if I want to know if I need another
power supply, what I could do is grab a
7970 and test it. Nope, we do not have
one. Okay,
so that throws a bit of a monkey wrench into my plan. That's okay, though. We'll
just find another graphics card that draws a similar amount of power and go
from there. We may end up using this card after all. Oh wow. Inaccessible
boot device. Oh wow. What's going on
here? This computer is not happy now
that we've installed a power hungry card. There are a lot of power supplies
on Craigslist. Nothing that cheap. Corsair
CX500 would do the trick. Yeah, this is this is not this is not booting. This is
really bad. And there's your Buntu. So the graphics
card works. The power supply works.
Everything else I already tested
works.
Nice. Okay, on this station here, I'm
going to focus on formatting into Windows. I need to get uh Ubuntu off of
here, get into Windows on this drive. And then over here, I'm gonna keep
working on my little woodworking project, trying to get this going, using
these sample pieces, the sample power supply I have and sample motherboard
that I have to kind of work on the layout of how everything's going to
actually be on here. One other thing that I need to do is actually use this
screw bin and possibly use another few things around the office to try to rig
up the back of that graphics card so it actually has screws on it. Although that
isn't a huge priority right now. That would be kind of nice to do.
So, we have two terrible power supplies, but together hopefully that equals one
good power supply. This is the goods.
And Core i7. Oh, Core i7. What? 2600.
Nice. 690. 180.
Even for that old of a card, that's a good deal. I mean, this this thing is a
monster. So, I think it actually here, let me see. Will it fit in the case? Uhoh. No.
All right. So, that's actually not going to fit in the case. No fear, though.
This stuff, we just cut all this out, right? Yeah. Actually, this could
probably even get Yeah, this this will come out. You want to take a guess on
like how much we spent on all this stuff? Mhm. 350.
No, it's like 550. Okay. So, oh, you spent 30 on like one stick. Yeah, dude.
RAM was tough. RAM was really tough because Yeah, you got taken for a ride,
but still. The thing was we No one had any cheaper RAM. You honestly have like
pretty primo stuff. It's just this is the only concern. At least for the work,
right? It's like in brand new. Exactly. You have that. So, that's the thing. We
want to We have everything. Yeah. So, we have everything now. We basically just
need to make sure it works. I'm a little worried cuz this needs This is like a 500 watt card. So, this needs two eight
pins. So, we're going to have to make sure that these power supplies, this
power supply has Oh, Lord, it's gray.
Let's see. It's not that bad. Um, so it has a six pin here, and I think it's got
an eight pin somewhere. Sparkle power. Sparkle power. Oh, there's just a bunch
of adapters. Okay. Does Do you have the extra two? It doesn't have the extra
two. Wait, what the What is going on here? Why are there so many adapters?
All these Molex have adapters on them. We should have looked at this before.
Yeah. So, basically, power supply right here. Tape it on. Cut this slash try to
remove it. I'm not sure if it can be unscrewed or not, but we can remove this
somehow. I'm not really worried about that. Um, and just hope that these two
power supplies are enough for the Core i7 and the 6990. Sorry. Do you need an
actual sander? Do we have an actual sander? Yeah, I have an actual sander.
Oh, is it a company tool thing? I've been using it here. So, sure. Yeah.
Uh, I'm down with that. Yeah, you I'm down with that. I will uh
just Why are you using this? Uh, yeah. I
know it's the wrong thing, but it's actually kind of working actually pretty
well. Did my I just sanded off the mark that I
made for where I wanted to
cut. I'm not saying there's cheating involved, but that's some point
deduction. A little suspicious right there. We we know that Linus was uh
still sending messages after five. Was
he? Yeah. Uh oh. How do you know? I asked him and he told me.
He's cheating. So, he's absolutely cheating.
I'm calling about the CX500 power supply. I can come get it
today if you can do 20. Sure, why not? Um 20. So, I could Yeah, like if you
just give me an address, I can I can get there tonight. No problem. Well, if you
leave now, you can come to my house. I I I still won't be at work yet. So, is
that okay? I live in Richmond, though. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Son of a [ __ ] Okay.
How are we going to do this? We got to go to Vancouver. We got to go to Richmond. And we got to go to
Kquitlam. And we are going to be all over the place for the next little bit
here. Okay. So, he won't set it up to to show us it works, but we have another
option. So, we got a $20 power supply to go with
our $100 graphics
card and we'll just bring a computer with us to test it. Let's
go. Okay, I think we can I think we can hit all these places today. As long as
our back alley contact is on time, I think we got this.
It's 3:00 and it's 10 minutes to our next
destination. You know what? New plan
because back alley guy wasn't able to
meet until 4ish. So, we're going to go straight
back to Kquitlam and then to the back alley. And as long as we can get there
before 5, if it takes us a little longer to drive back, we technically haven't
broken the rules. You have to be done scrapyarding and head back at
5. New. We're good. I think the rule is you have to be back at 5:30.
Well, it's all very gray anyway. That is right there. 20 bucks. Yep. That's good.
Oh, you got it from NCIX. I see.
Tell from the NCIX sticker. Yeah. Okay.
Cables are inside and presumably it works. Yeah. Pleasure doing business
with you. Huge fan, actually. Oh. H. Yeah. Screw it. Okay. Here you go. I
mean, well, nothing that we know of at the moment. I only have one of those
though. That's okay. I can get an adapter. Well, I mean, if it doesn't
super work, just let me know cuz I got We didn't have time to test our 7970,
but the guy said we can come back tomorrow morning if we need a refund.
So, at least we have the backup plan of using our
6850 and returning the 7970. So, that's
good. And our quote from Google Maps right now is that we will arrive in the
back alley at 458. He said we can have the sound card
for free just if we just come pick it up. I am going to have my system.
Thank you. Thank you. All right. All right. Okay, we got our
sound card. So, our back alley best friend
hooked us up with an Odigy 2 and a Sound
Blaster Live, both of which are PCI graphics cards, and at least one of
which I'm hoping will both work and have
drivers for Windows 7, which is what we've standardized on using. So, um, as
long as that's the case, I have everything I need for my winning
computer. Yeah. So, I feel better
about telling you guys stuff. I don't really Ed's been uh very helpful. He's
not been an impartial cameraman, so we've been a team here, but I didn't
know I wasn't supposed to help. I didn't either. Was very much not an impartial
cameraman at all. You give you give us you give me a reason why I can escape
the windowless dungeon of linest. So do I.
We may need to hurry up a bit. You got you got what? You have 1 hour an hour
and 50 minutes. Okay. No, it's cut off.
Oh, so you have 50 minutes. This is helpful.
Uh smaller one. Okay. Oh, do we need
something to short the pins on the Oh, paper clip. Paper clip. Yeah. up here.
Maybe you have a paper clip. No. Oh,
what do you need it for? How are you a salesman without paper clip? How are you
a video editor without a paper clip? You
think I need a paper clip? Oh, you get that? You think this will
actually work? This sounds like we're about to die. This out of the way. Oh,
man. Installing it or are we uh I'm installing outside the case first to
test it. Yeah, let's build outside the case. You're right. You can't really
build inside because
Okay, memory's good. No, you cut out. I
can't get back at it. It's way too tight. Especially with a big knife like this.
Like, this is a bad idea. It's a really
bad idea. It's so
tight. I know. I'm scaring me with this right now.
Oh no, I slightly damaged some of the sleeing. Uhoh, that's not good. Oh yes.
Okay, we're good. We're good. We're good. Um, okay. Slight problem. This
motherboard needs a eight pin connector and we only have a four. Also, bad news.
This also has a four pin. Can we Couldn't each power supply power half
the CPU, too? That seems like a horrible idea. Either we try to see if one four
pin will work. No. No. We got to do this. Let's try with one four pin. Let's
hopefully that will work. Can we have a quick time check? 450. So, we have 10
minutes. Do we just try it? Uh, we need to still Oh, we need to still do the
paperclip thing. How is this going to work,
dude? Okay, so this is a green. You and
I agree that's green. Yeah, that is green. Okay. And the one right beside it is black. Oh, man. I feel like you're
not supposed to do this with a staple. Feel like you're not supposed to do this ever, but especially not with a staple.
Wait, what? Oh, no. We don't have a way of turning this
on with a screwdriver. I've never done that before. What are you talking
about? Yes.
Yes, it works. Power supply. Power
supply. Fan fan fan. Yes, we did it.
Okay, we just need to make sure this is actually like posting, but all the fans
are running. It looks like it's working. Needs some sanding, but there's
my graphics card holding plate or my power supply holding plate. Maybe the
power supply. My computer is still setting up over there. Windows 7
Professional is still applying my settings. It's been doing that forever.
It's kind of getting annoying. Let's try
this. Cool. So, just like I had kind of
hoped, um, I don't actually even need this block. It'll just hopefully look
cool. I hope it looks cool. I really hope it looks cool. It looks like it
works, but it's not posting and we're over time. This is Seems like a horrible
idea. Horrible idea, but whatever. Let's do it. They don't want to go in
together. What are you talking about? Let me just squish it. Don't worry. Good
enough. Good enough. I know. No. No. This power supply should be spinning
right now. I don't understand why it's not. It should be working.
Oh, you're right. Oh, come
on. Oh, dude. I don't know if these are supposed to work together. I don't think
they are. Because you're not supposed to put that in sideways.
No, we got we're going from Molex to six pin and then we're going six pin 8 pin
like we did here except this time to power the CPU. I actually have never
even tried this. I don't think it'll work, but it could.
Uh, could it maybe? I I have a feeling
this shouldn't work. If it does work, it shouldn't work. Look at this. What have
we done? No. No, it's not going to work.
It's different. Okay, so at this point I
think we have to call it a day. Um, the fan spin. The two power supply thing
actually works, which is more than I thought I could say, but it won't post.
And I think the problem is powering the motherboard. So, we have a one 8 pin
power connector for the CPU. We only have a four pin from each power supply.
So, neither of them are actually enough to get it to post. Um, I'm assuming
that's the problem because when we tried to plug in both four pins, which you're not really supposed to do, um, this
power supply freaked out and stopped working. So, I'm pretty sure if we could
get these two somehow between the two to
power the CPU, we would be good. Um, so
yeah, I think we got to give up for the day and maybe tomorrow come up with like
a game plan of like how we're going to power this thing. But we're close. But,
uh, this is the this is the best case. This is the best case. If it's just the
eight pin, we can't power it. Worst case is something here is broken. In which
case, we are way more screwed. Okay, I
think it's time to call it a night. Until tomorrow, sweet
prince. Oh man, I hope we can figure this out. I really do. Next time on
Scrapyard Wars, Burkel fights his doppelganger, Nikki B. You really want
to throw down? You want to rumble punk? Wait, who are you talking to? You have
the same person. All right, Scrapyard Wars day three. Our internet is
down. Basically, we're upgrading to 1 gig. And I don't know how many of you
are Canadian or have heard of Telus, but they're sort of legendarily terrible.
And there was apparently some kind of data entry error while they were
changing our internet. I guess they were probably typing with their faces as
usual. So, that kind of probably hampers
me a lot more than anyone else, which really sucks because now was supposed to
be the time that I was finishing downloads and installs. So, I guess um
what I'm going to do now is try to install everything onto the
board, which is actually what I wanted to do later, but whatever. This is
ridiculous, but if it works, who cares?
DisplayPort, no signal. Oh, good call. So, let's get the
graphics card out of the out of the equation. Oh. Oh, I saw something flash
for like half a second. Yes, we have video. Okay. Okay,
guys. Ah, okay. That's kind of what I was afraid
of. That four pin is probably not going to be enough to keep the CPU
fed. Like I expected, my wood thing is
not really tall enough because I didn't take into account the height of the
Velcro. Okay. Well, that's good. It's mounted and it's still posts. So, that's
that's a good sign. So, we moved where
we were, if you didn't notice, uh, because it will hopefully be better for
filming reasons or whatever yet, but we should be theoretically sitting at about
3 GHz, and I think our memory is still at about 720 MHz. So, CPU is running at
3.24 GHz. I must have screwed up, but I made
it faster than I expected, and it's not crashing.
Might need a bigger pilot hole, but we're going to see. The wood was not
super happy about that. I can't wait for the comments on this. Oh my god, Luke,
you did that so wrong. I literally have no idea what I'm doing. I really don't
know if this is going to help me tie the
fishing line at all. I was hoping these were grippier than my skin, but I don't
know if that's true anymore.
Oh, it does totally seem to be true. That's awesome. Okay, that's good. If
this overclock works, honestly, I'd be
happy, I think, with this overclock and the overclock that I have on the CPU,
but I'll have about 3 hours left. So, what I need to do is save this overclock
to a profile. I already have my CPU's overclock saved to a profile, and uh
hopefully doing a little bit more cable management stuff just to make it look better. Even though that's not a metric,
it would be nice. Vync off.
Apply. It did not like
that. Okay. After the benchmark ran, it
crashed. And I don't know why it crashed. So, what I need to do now is
figure out if it was my GPU or if it was my CPU thing. So, what I just did was I
changed my overall total power limit from 150% to
uh 25% and I changed my applied voltage
from 100 molts to 50 m. Whoa.
What? Okay. My GPU is not very happy
right now. It's not hot. Maybe it doesn't have
enough voltage or something. Okay, so I turned things down and they're actually
running faster. So at $310, I just
got Damn it. Why does it keep doing
that at the same part after like the same amount of time? Okay, so after some
troubleshooting, I think I know what's going on. So, we instead of using our
two like really crappy power supplies, we're using one power supply that's
somewhat decent. And this is now powering the graphics card and it's got
eight pins to the CPU. So, the 8 pin was
absolutely the problem. The four pin, it was enough to get it to post, but it's
not enough to actually do anything. So, the CPU I feel like is good as long as
we have an 8 pin. Um, we've now switched around the power supplies so that the
graphics card has its own dedicated power supply. The power supply is enough
to spin the fan fully up. That's good. So, we're still using the four pin. It's
not going to be stable whatsoever. But this is more to just see if our two
power supplies Yes, it's posted. Okay, we're we're in business. We're in
business. So, the only thing we basically need to do right now is get
the uh 4 pin to 4 pin plus molex
adapter. Okay, success. We have the one
tiny adapter that cost $7 that we needed. So, with our new 8 pen, we can
see that the CPU is boosting up to like 3.6 GHz or so, and then it's coming back
down. But it seems to be working. Look at this. We're stable 100%. With only
the four pin, this immediately crashed. Oh
no. Memory management.
No, it didn't do anything. It's just as
unstable as with the four pin. Oh
no. Maybe it's the power supply. Maybe the just this this 300 watt supply is
just not enough to to power it. Okay, so
basically right now we've swapped out memory we bought with some other memory
just to see if it's the RAM that's the problem. Um I mean this is a brand new
stick. This is like the only brand new component in the build. So it' be really weird if this was the part that didn't
work. This is longer than it was before. The memory may have been the issue. We
may have got some defective brand new memory. Wow. The only other thing we can
think about is trying this RAM in a different slot. So I'm go ahead and
start the stress test. So, it only lasted like 5 seconds before.
Wow. Is this going to be stable? Was it literally just changing the slot in the
motherboard? I'm a genius, dude. High five. Yes. Okay, at this point, let's
tear this stuff down. Oh, no. We should probably play a game. Let's play a game. Okay. Download this. Yes. Uh, which one
thing with this build, something is weird with this motherboard. It freaks
out every sing. Oh, no.
So, we have to go return this memory because it's broken. And it just fell out. That's awesome. 2:00. We have less
than 2 hours to make sure this works and build the whole computer. Get benchmarks
ready. We do not have another opportunity. If this does not work, we
might just be out of it. Oh man. Coming
down to the wire. Okay, she posts, which
is a good sign. Well, either our motherboard has two dead PCI slots or
our Sound Blaster Odigy 2 is dead.
Fortunately, we grabbed a couple sound cards at the time. So, let's go ahead
and try another one. So, our internet's down at the office this morning, which
has made progress a little slower than I'd like, but there is good news. I've
got Windows 7 installed. My graphics card seems to be working for the most
part. Uh although I haven't run anything 3D yet cuz I don't have drivers for it
at the moment. Um there's some bad news though. Both my Odigy 2, which I had
high hopes for, and my Sound Blaster Live are dead. So, I will have to accept
that I will be running a system that only has HDMI audio. Oh. Oh. Whoa. Ho.
Oh, he said, "Oh, we're up. We're up. Internet's up." Yay. So, this
is exciting because I am many hours away from
competition crunch time and I've got almost all of my benchmarks installed,
all my drivers installed. I can start getting baseline readings and then
tuning things and finding out how it goes from there.
Okay, 76.5 FPS average. I'm feeling a little
tense today. It's 12. I haven't started my build yet. And this initial Cinebench
run is really ugly. Like if those guys
ran out and got a 3770K or something
like that, they'll be pulling off triple
my score thanks to the improved architecture and hyperthreading. And at
least unlike Austin, I'm not running around picking up components now because
I'm fairly certain they did not go out for lunch. So, for the benefit of our
competitor over there, I'm going to do a quick run through of all the awesome
components that I've got over on my side.
First, this gaming grade motherboard.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Look at that. So many games. That's a gaming sound.
Can I play Pac-Man? It can be
Pac-Man. Oh, no. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Nope. Next up, we have the finest power
supply ever made. I mean, it was a miracle that I was even able to find
these, let alone afford it with my
budget. Next up, this genuine USB 2.0 4
port expansion card and 56K modem. Going
to need one of these. I don't want to tell them about that, though. That's my secret weapon. Massive cooler for like
wicked overclocking. Intel 750 series
PCI Express SSD. We didn't even pay for
that. And this put Put the 750 series
SSD down again. Yeah, that doesn't really sound
right. I don't think that's a 750 series SSD. Blah blah blah blah blah. I'm just
standing over here lying about what computer parts I have. My name's Lionus.
My voice isn't quite that high.
Let's put one of our 750 series SSDs away for now. Now you have two. I always
had two. So, this is actually broken.
Fortunately, we have so much extra
hardware that literally half of our
parts could be broken and we would have no problem whatsoever. So, I'm just
going to go get another one. All right. So, just in case, I brought some of our
extra extra hardware that isn't the stuff that we actually need, you know,
right now. Just installing our bolt-on Hemi.
They're lying to us and we were so honest with them about the computer that
we're building. You mean you don't believe that I have a Hemi?
Well, I did believe you.
I wanted to believe. I was just moving stuff around
to try to do cable management and the computer froze up.
Hopefully that's not actually a problem. It's probably just
random old hard drives and stuff.
My computer straight up doesn't boot properly anymore.
I have no idea what happened. It blue screened randomly and now it doesn't
properly turn on. So, I'm pretty disappointed.
So, we just went from our game benchmark
acting weird to our computer completely not turning on to our computer turning
on, but now Windows is freaking out and super unhappy. I moved the graphics card
down one slot because uh FreeGeek Vancouver said that that top slot wasn't
working. I had no problems with that top slot working, but I'm just trying to
minimize issues at this point because there's about 3 hours to go and I really
want to be running all of the benches that I have to run and know what my
scores are going to be before I walk into the final. So, I'm in the process
of building my troll system, which has all of the worst of every component that
I have. Like, this is like legit like one of the most stressed moments of my
whole life. Okay, maybe that's a slight exaggeration, but like I'm super
hardcore stressed right now. Oh man, did do we actually do it? I don't I don't
want to get my hopes up right now, but like this looks good. This is the only
CPU intensive test. If it finishes this, that's pretty much means that we're
good. Nothing else should hit the CPU this hard for this long. All right,
we're in business, dude. That's awesome. Connect it up. Oh, look at that. Like
butter. Wow.
This will
work. Yeah, I think that
work. It's perfect. It's actually not that bad. Everything else has just been
like typical sort of like random computer problems like dead memory or
like not having the right adapter or whatever. But if it works together, we
did a great job. It is terrible. But you just literally told me to do this like 5
seconds ago and I agreed. What have we done, dude? This is not cool. What have
we done? You your idea. 30 seconds ago.
You were taking credit like this is all Austin Ed. We're such a great team. Then
we actually see what it is. Like I have nothing to do with
this. This is the greatest thing ever.
Thermal paste looks fine. There's a lot of it, but it looks
fine. Oh my god. Yeah, there's still gunk in the CPU socket. That could super
be what it is. Oh wow. It's currently
2:26. Meaning assuming it's 2:30, we've
got an hour and a half left. So if that
was the problem, I think I'm still doing okay. If that wasn't the problem, I
could be totally screwed. At this point, my computer doesn't make it through Fire
Strike. If I completely fail a benchmark, I'm done. So, right now we're
testing CPU overclock only, no GPU overclock. We just did a successful Fire
Strike run completely all the way through with no overclock. Now, we're
testing 3.24 on this guy. Oh, I can't
believe it just crashed. I feel like sick. Like, I don't
feel good at all. If that just crashed because of the overclock, that's fine.
If that just crashed for any other reason, I'm screwed.
So, as of right now, if I apply literally any amount of overclock to my
CPU, my memory, or my graphics card,
even one at a time, I can't run a benchmark. 150 gigs. That's not right.
Oh, it is 15 gig hard drive. Oh, no. It's not big enough. We only have 15 gig
hard drive and there's a 200 gig SSD. We're going to have to install Windows
from scratch cuz we don't have any way of finding Windows. No, we have a We
don't have time, dude. Uh, yeah, I've got it. Give me a second.
No, we have one. We have a flash. You have a flash drive? I got it from Li.
Oh, you should have told me that. I did. Oh, just now. And upstairs, too. Thank
you. I'm going to be slightly late. So, slightly late. We don't have an
operating system. You're also live. Okay. Okay. So, our CPU temperatures are
well within reason. And we're going to do some stability testing at 3.2 GHz and
go back and work on our troll system. Here we go.
That sounds good. Um, I don't know if our troll system is going to end up
working. I have tried to get it to post. I've tried two separate motherboards and
honestly, we're at the point now where I don't have a ton of extra time to spend
on it. So, I'm still going to go over there and like be working on it from
time to time, but I'm probably better off focusing right now on my main system
because I only have an hour and 40 minutes to dial in a GPU overclock and
mod the case and building it. Those are the three main mods. Make the
motherboard fit, make the power supply fit. I guess that's only
two. with a couple of drill
holes. Um, we can make this work. Now, here's
something that I actually had sort of forgotten about. We need to make sure
that this baby is going to fit
here, which so far is looking like a bit of a nogo.
I've never trusted this kind of standoff, so it's fine, but I'm going to
tape over them just in case. I cannot afford to kill any more components at
this stage in the game. So, apparently
overclocking my CPU, but not applying voltage kind of worked. Overclocking my
GPU and not applying voltage, no, not
even like a little bit. barely got into that bench at all. So, we're going to
reset the graphics card overclock. Just run it at stock. Whatever. So, there's 9
minutes left. I'm just going to set it to the last overclock that worked. You
can do it. Believe in yourself. Come on.
Wow. Done. Hands down. It's 4:00 minus
stop. I'm done. Okay. Okay, so Windows is
installing right now. Basically, after this, we need to install our benchmarks.
We need to install our Hi, what's up? This is 4:00.
Next time on Scrapyard Wars, Austin becomes a wizard. Linus doesn't have to
cheat, but he does. Luke's house burns to the ground. And that's all. Come see
it next time on Scrapyard Wars. Yeah.
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Dbrand. I can run now. So, let's run
now. Where's Austin? I don't based on
Nick coming in and asking if we're supposed to be done. I'm thinking Austin
is not done. He walked over to me and was like, "How did you install Windows 7
with 20 minutes left?" I was like pretty sure he was trolling. I don't mind that.
Like the system's done. Like the thing is is like the first time we did
Scrapyard Wars, the benchmark period
included like installing software. Yo yo
yo yo, hold on. Hold on. Pause everything. What's going on right now
with install? Uh well, Luke's not letting me put my front bezel back on
because it's after 4:00. What about software? Uh we were just talking about
I don't even have a way of installing all the benchmarks. I do not know your login or anything, so I can't do that.
That's a good point. So, I think we should the software should be My
computer is 100% done hardwarewise. Uhhuh. Okay. I love how both the other
contestants are taking more time to do you the You can put the camera down.
It's fine. I didn't totally just accidentally install 32-bit Windows. So,
I'm currently installing 64-bit Windows. Did not realize that there was a 32-bit
Windows thing on that key. So, I think the troll system deserves to see the
light of day. So, we're just going
to put all this in
here. There's nobody. Look, we're not coming through with any kind of monster
computer or anything. The cover's not helping
much. Uh, so we've decided to do the unveil in
two stages. Stage one, we unveil the
hardware. Stage two, we all run our
benchmark scores, therefore unveiling the performance. Stage
three, we unveil the prices that we
paid. Yeah. So, Austin, you're up first.
All right. So,
introducing the greatest system I've ever built. That's not saying much.
What? Why does it have a power supply on the top? It has a power supply on the
top because it has two power supplies.
Okay, so basically you guys just seem
shocked and amazed, right? You know what? I get it. I was going to do that.
Oh, really? If I had gotten that graphics card. Oh, that was the
component that I knew you had. Really? I called the guy and I was like, "Can I
come get it first?" And the guy's like, "No, I already told him I'll give it to
him." So, unless he doesn't show up, you can't have it. But I'll tell you what,
if he doesn't show up by two, you can have it. And he goes and he goes, "But I
don't think he's going to show up. He's got a California number." You totally
got me. All right. So, this needs some serious power. This power supply is
purely for the graphics card. Yeah. Which is Figured that out. It is a 6990.
I saw that. I actually almost went for that. A 6990. So, we got talking dual
GPUs. We also have a Core i7 2600, not
K. The motherboard's not overclockable either. So, it's pretty much like if it
works at stock, I'm going to be really happy with it. That is the scrapator.
There you go. All right. Interesting.
All right. Well, what I expected. All right. This looks awesome.
This Oh,
what the hell? What? Okay.
This my machine is called the scrap
hole because it's where I
buried all the extra hardware that I ended up with. Okay.
Wow. Okay. So, uh, I'll start horrified
right now. I'll start at the top.
Okay, this is an IPI BLLB LG A775
motherboard. DDR2, my friends. Unfortunately, it doesn't support the
Pentium 4 processor. This works, by the way. At least it did before I did that
to it. This is a vintage USB 2.0
expansion card. Okay, this horrified is a broken
Ody 2.
This is the most disgusting piece of hardware that I have ever laid eyes on.
It smells. The computer we pulled this from literally had a used crackpipe
inside it. Nice. Really? That's awesome.
Literally. No, that's good. That's a good thing. This is a working 9500
GS power there. This is a working 6850.
This is a Sound Blaster Live, also dead.
This is a heat sink.
So, you found some way. This is my army of hard drives. You found some way to go
to an actual scrapyard and get all this stuff for basically free. The hard
drives may or may not work. I'm not sure. I see. Under there is a Pentium 4
processor. Really? This RAM I borrowed.
So, this actually is not I did not obtain the RAM. And uh that Foxcon
board, I don't know. It made those beeping sounds you heard earlier. But
you don't have RAM in your system now. Because But no, you can't add anything
now. What is this? Oh, he has another computer. What is this? I think this is
all just a waste. But he said he had a 1650. That looks like a fairly decent
car. I think he has a whole another computer cuz I think he went to a
scrapard and like actually got all this stuff. Like basically This is the
leaning tower of Scrabza.
Why do you have two full computers? This is my actual computer. Why don't you
just lay it on its side? Why do you lean it? I like it this way. So, there's
Yeah, there's no reason. Okay. So, th this is my
Q6600. Yes, I went Q6600 again. Fair enough. Fair enough. 4
gigs of DDR2 memory. They're okay. my
7970 Ghost. Uh, that was actually modded
by the original owner, believe it or not. This Commando ROG motherboard was
literally pulled out of a scrap pile of motherboards. So, this is what I'm
saying. He found somewhere. He spent like $18 on this entire rig. Literally.
Well, I have a 7970. I mean, come on. Okay, so $25. Yeah, $25. So, that, my
friends, is the leaning tower of Scrap Z. So, can I just ask a question?
What's the deal with all this stuff? If you have this computer right here, we we
can't ask you about price right now, but you went to some scrap junk place and
got a whole bunch of this for And you said this is a a radon 6850. That's a
6850. It
works. But I'm factoring all this into my price. This is probably suspicious.
Or like cost of metal weight.
That's what Okay, so I'll get the scrap
hole out of the way. It does actually really stink. Smells gross computer.
I knew it. Oh, I knew it.
I basically told you. You asked me some stupid ass question on the first day.
Basically, this isn't John. Why is there fishing line on it?
This is awesome. I like this immediately. So, it's it's a Q6600. I wasn't supposed
to have one of those. I was supposed to have a different processor. Then, that guy bailed on me, so I like scrambled
and was able to get this. This is a BFG Tech power supply.
Yeah. Here we go. Benchmark number one. Cinebench
R15. Three, two, one, go. And I think we
all know who is winning this one. You know, maybe, just possibly. Oh yeah.
Well, he has eight threads, which is sort of an issue. Yeah. Oh my god. If
your name isn't Austin. So, this is I spent a fair chunk more on
this i7 almost entirely for this test. So, hopefully I beat you guys by a lot
cuz I I'm feeling pretty good. I'm crushing Luke. Yeah. Actually, what's
going on? I think Don't you guys have the same CPU? Yeah, mine has some
issues. 615.
316. Oh, almost double. 316 for Lionus.
Peter, that likes 267. 267. That's not bad. All right, so our first benchmark
scores are in. Shall we run PC Mark next? Yes, let's do it. Ready? 3 2 1 go.
Okay, I'm counting on Austin's like crashing or something because he's going
to crush the PC Mark score as well. Oh man, PC Mark Vantage has crashed. So,
what do we do now? To reset your overclocks. I don't know. Do I get to try one more time? Cuz I've I've had it
run. I think that's fair. Rule technically says he has to immediately
reset his own most. I think I'm going to
I'm going to be a little lenient on this one. It's mostly cuz I also want a
little lenient if I have some issues in a minute. So, whatever.
That was mainly your rule. You were you were the one that was hardcore. I know.
I just I don't think that's why it crashed. Yeah. So, what's the deal with
this? That does not look great. Yeah, yours is doing that. Might be because of
your dual GPUs. You think it's just like not No, that's part of the image
manipulation benchmark. I think it's not doing that. This is what mine looks
like. Yeah, mine's being super screwy.
Look at that. Crashed again. Wo. Yep. I guess I got to I guess I got to dial
back my overclock. Wow. Turn it off. Yep.
Which is really Which is really
shy snoody tooty.
Just in general, it's a good life skill to be able to turn that off. Gucci. So,
we got So, do I get to keep my Cinebench then? Yeah, I think it cuz it worked. It
completed that test. But his system isn't stable. So, I failed my PC Mark
run, which means I had to reset my CPU overclock taking me from 3.2 to 2.4 GHz,
which in Cinebench um basically amounted
to about 2/3 of the score that I got.
Uh, now we're going to have a look at our PC Mark results.
How are we going to submit results or we just saving? Yep. Click submit results
and let's find out how much it affected me in PC Mark. Uh, my score is zero.
That does not sound particularly right. Oh, okay. So, Austin's machine straight
up derped and I apparently crushed Luke.
How's your CPU image manipulation? hard drive. Importing pictures to Windows
Photo Gallery. Yes. Why am I not seeing any
stuff? What? I just Oh, the SSD paid off
hardcore. Okay, you just got
creamed. All right, 3D Mark Fire Strike time. Let's do it. Ready, set, go.
Now, we decided that unless Austin's actually in
contention, which I don't think either of us really thinks is going to happen
on this side table here. Rude. Unless Austin's actually in contention, we're
just going to throw out his PC Mark score. It just wouldn't finish. So,
we'll see how the rest of it goes. If he's in contention, it's likely we'll
assign him a similar score to what Luke
has. Your CPU is probably helping. Wait,
crossfire's still on, right? Uh, yes, it
is. Yeah, it's Yeah. Okay, so
Oh, no. You're like Luke's crushing us
both. Don't worry, though. There's the CPU.
That's what I was saying. I wasn't entirely sure. My second test didn't launch.
I wonder if we'll have to turn off that graphics card. Overclocking. Sure hope
not. It says running system info, though. What does that even mean? You're
on. Is this a physics one? Physics now. Yeah. So, you're probably Oh, wow.
That's really good. That's super good. That's going to crush your score. Yep.
Let alone now it's a lot slower. Uh,
wow. Yes. You just crashed, dude. Yeah.
Oh, wow. RIP. Time to reset your graphics. Tons of graphical [ __ ] No.
No. Oh, I'm running at stock settings. All
right, I'm in the second test. M. Yeah,
I like it. Although he's done this twice. It's my favorite.
There was no lower enthusiasm. Yeah, the reenactment was flawless. Okay, so let's
put Austin's story. 5546.
Oh, 5580. Or you barely beat me. I beat Austin,
dude. Fire strike. 5546 versus 5580.
That's pretty close. All right,
so uh Luke's a little behind. To be fair, I waited a really long, you know,
which is exactly where I like him.
So, let's go ahead and Austin and I are going to start the Tomb Raider benchmark. All right.
Whoa, that's lower than uh Whoa, that's
lower than I thought it would be. Okay, no, that's fine. Average 109.
87. Y Okay, so Austin comes in at
109 even. Yes. With me coming in at
84.9. Okay. All right. Let's run Far Cry 4.
Okay. So, here's the update. We are
swapping out Austin's graphics card with an
R9270 to rerun PC Mark and give us
approximately the equivalent of if this card were to run with a single GPU, what
his PC Mark score would be. We know it's an approximation, but the cold hard
truth is nobody actually runs PC Mark Vantage, so who cares? We're going to
live with the approximation on Luke's system. We are running him off of an
uninterruptible power supply to condition the power because I've seen
this before where cheap power supplies will actually be able to handle a
system, but won't be able to handle crummy power coming off the wall, which
with all these systems running off the same outlet may in fact be the case
here. And we don't want to penalize him for bad wall power. For my system, we
are apparently rerunning my Cinebench. I was doing it so there was I was doing it
so that there was something running to be but otherwise I have completed all of
my benchmarks. 6711 he got a score. Okay.
Do I get my OC back? I don't know man.
It's cuz of the UPS. It was dirty wall power. Is that fair? It had nothing to
do with I think at this point we all just need to take what we can do. Do I
get another crack with my overclock? Yeah. See like that's just like a a
spiral. Maybe that is the dirty wall power.
Okay. So, you go on a UPS, but I have to rerun everything. Yeah, come on. We're
done here. I don't know. Like, what? It's I don't care. Whatever. Okay. Well,
there's Oh, my score wasn't that bad. 242. So, I'm doing my last test in Far
Cry 4 right now. Yeah, it's not running very well. I
don't know why it's not running very well. It's I think low 40s, but I don't
know. Uh, so I have good news, guys. Hey, it's done. It's done. And 9780. Oh,
so even without an SSD, I was almost able to beat. So, mine's just really low
on that one. Yeah. Oh, man. But you
crushed the graphics. You did crush the graphics. I think we should let Luke
just use his old benchmark score. You guys, so the final scores are Austin
with 455 out of 500 points. All right. Lionus
with 362.
out of 500 points and Luke with
386 out of 500 points. Wow. So now all
that's left is the cash count.
I don't know any of what any of these coins are. Holy. Okay, this is a dollar.
Uh 5989. I just used my calculator for Yeah, let
me let me do that real quick. I spent 310. I Ah, I spent
$218. Final price per dollar. Score is really high though. Wait, score per
dollar. Higher is better. Good job. Good
job. Officially wrecked. I think I called it. Minus one by 40%. Okay, let's
go. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. All right. I had actually, this is kind
of a funny story. If I had lost by $40,
I would have been so mad because the guy with the Q6600 offered it to me for 40.
And I was like, "No, man. Here's another
20 bucks." Really? I'm going to fleece you slightly less. Oh my goodness. Wow.
Now, I was betting heavy on my SSD. Mhm.
I I paid $38 for my SSD. Wow. Which is a
good deal still. It's a great deal. Yeah, but when you consider my
$238 budget,
dude, I paid $25 for my 150 gig hard drive.
25 bucks. I paid $10 for mine. You got wrecked on your hard drive. So, okay. My
my motherboard and CPU. I was supposed to have a 9550 and some other board.
That guy I showed you. I had 18 emails back and forth and stuff just Oh, he's
supposed to bring it to work. Oh, I forgot it. So, I had to scramble and find some other solution. And this was
on the second day, so like there's basically no way I'm going to be able to
set an appointment and have that appointment in the same day. I ended up
going to FreeGeek Vancouver, which we've been talking about doing a thing. I got
a Q6600 for 17 bucks. What? That
motherboard's 35. That hard drive was 10. All that RAM was 40. I should have
got 4 gigs. I think I would have been way more competitive if I got 4 gigs.
All that RAM was only 40 bucks. and that power supply which actually murdered me
and I should have bought the other one that I was going to buy from Kevin's
stupid website. Um, but it it was 30
bucks. Okay, so why don't we close this out? Austin, it was your first scrapyard
wars. You came in on unfamiliar turf.
How do you feel about your result? I feel like I spent way too much money.
That was the big problem. I way misjudged the budget and I to be totally
honest my build probably shouldn't have worked. Like how close I cut it to
actually getting everything working at the last second like it should really
should not have worked. Like the second in your defense my build shouldn't have
worked either. The motherboard when you see how that motherboard was packed. My
power supply barely works. We were all That happens every time dude in
Scrapyard Wars. Don't worry about it. I was I was like an hour and a half out
like I don't have a working system. I might just like be disqualified and like
just not having anything to show. Oh man, that was that was brutal. But do
you feel good about not getting disqualified? I feel so good. Like the
second I finished the bill, I was like, you know what? I don't even care if I come dead last. I just built this
system, this crazy contraption. It actually works. So happy. I'm still
happy, which is good because you did come dead last. Yes, I did. All right.
How do you feel about your performance today? Honestly, pretty good. I'm happy with the Free Geek Vancouver stuff. Um I
think I actually did quite well. you just got a crazy deal, which is that's
scrapyard wars. That's totally fair. I just wish I actually bought that Corsair
power supply. That's the only regret I have. I would have had pretty good
overclocks and everything. You still would have won. I just would have been happier with my system overall. But
yeah, I I wouldn't have changed much, just power supply.
So, what I would have changed is I
wouldn't have bought an extra $20 graphics card. So, I'm just going to for
the sake of running numbers, I'm going to drop 20 bucks off my score here.
Um, I wouldn't have tipped the guy 20
bucks. That's crazy, dude. And my FPS per
dollar score would have been literally more than double Austin's and would have
been uh about
25% better than Luke's. Wow. So, I feel
really great about my performance overall. You did a good job, dude. Yeah.
As a purist, I really would have liked to find a working sound device. I would
have spent another five bucks to get a working sound card. That is like it's
100% fair because there was no sound benchmarks, but that is if it was a
system you were using. That's a little brutal only, right? Yep. Um, and I would
have liked to spend time properly on my case. I would have liked to present a
more finished build. If I'd had a full another day, I also would have built my
troll system. Yeah, dude. That was awesome. Part of the problem was I
didn't even have time to install Windows on it. Yeah. But overall had fun. Had a
blast. It was so much fun. Me too. Interesting because you don't know what
the other piece. Yeah. That was the hardest part. Honestly, I was getting
pretty close to guessing near the end, but the whole time the duration. You had
no idea what you were competing against in terms of price. Yeah. Right. I had no
idea you were spending what you were spending. And
I You were confusing the whole time. So,
thanks for watching, guys. I hope you enjoyed Scrapyard Wars season 3. We'll
see you again next time. Drop a like on
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Good job, guys. All right.
Awkward dude high five. Yeah.
Slappy fight.