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people pay big bucks for the fastest PCS so then you would think conversely if

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you buy the slowest components you should save a ton of money right I mean

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it sounds logical enough and this is brand new hardware it's got to be better

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than buying something used right well

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not necessarily last time around we used

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the Athlon 3000g which by the way AMD

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still hasn't replaced other than to give it a packaging refresh and a shiny new

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partner just a couple of months ago not to be outdone Intel has come out with

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something since then that is somehow a

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bit slower on first glance the Intel Celeron

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G500 is quite similar to AMD's worst

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both are dual core chips based on their respective Brands 14 nmet processors

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with PCI Express gen 3 dual Channel ddr4

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memory and built-in Graphics but the Celeron is slower clocking at 3.4 GHz to

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the Athlon 3.5 with just one thread per

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core rather than two all while drawing almost twice as much power we're going

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to have it linked in the video description in case you want to see the full specs but I really don't think any

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of you should be running out to buy this thing even if it does include this

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as we used to call them with a basic motherboard that we dug out of storage

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since the exact board doesn't affect performance much for this generation

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h410 and b460 were the entrylevel

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chipsets but they'll cost you around a

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100 Yankee Doodles these days notably

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this is not a good price when you're spending only $50 on your CPU which

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highlights one of the major issues with buying super low tier brand new hardware

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the supporting players might end up breaking your budget even if you feel

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like you're getting a deal on one of the components that's why we took a

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completely different approach with our comparable system this time around oh

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yes we're doing one of those as well by going secondhand the DDR

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42666 supported by our CPU is still

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readily available though these days you have to go out of your way if you want

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to find less than an 8 gig dual Channel kit which we did so we have gone with

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this single 4 gig stick avengeance lpx

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ddr4 and for storage we've got this bad

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boy it is getting pretty unusual for us

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to do a build with a conventional hard drive these days and literally all of

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the pre-built PCS that we looked at from major retailers Shi with ssds now but

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hey these good oldfashioned Spin and hunks of metal they ain't dead yet so we

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settled on the WD 5000 AZ RZ from

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Western digitals blue lineup it holds 500 GB of storage includes a 64 megabyte

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cache spins at 5400 revolutions per minute and has a

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transfer rate of up to 150 mbes a second

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yeah you're going to be plenty slow for our little sluggish PC here ah isn't

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that cute to be honest guys we weren't sure how to settle on the slowest case

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is it the heaviest the one with the worst airf flow the one without any

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keyed heads on the screws so it takes longer to assemble even with the help of

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a trusty KN to Edition LTT Screwdriver from LTT Store.com we ended up settling

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on the fantex eclipse g300 a and then we

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made a cute little na decal for the side now for some reason power supply

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manufacturers don't include a speed rating in their spec so we went with a

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basic 450 W unit from fsp nothing to

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really write home about here folks but plenty capable of powering this sluggish

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setup it's the hexa 85 Plus Pro with the

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Final Touch being our 8 Pin PCI Express auxiliary power which we are not going

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to need at all believe it or not you can

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still get brand new GT 730s which did work on

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Windows 11 at one point but seem to have lost support in recent drivers so we are

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going to be going with the almost as terrible GT

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1030 it really is still more of a I

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desperately need a second Monitor and a low profile case sort of card as opposed

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to a gaming device especially considering AMD's recent launch of

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onboard Graphics that can run circles around it but let's give it a go that is

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one slow gaming PC you can fit so much slow in this bad boy I think having one

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RGB thing is worse than having no RGB

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things just looks so out of place that's the hardest working red LED gaming hey

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actually can't see it on my display I can see it on the capture machine over there now it's on mine awesome haven't

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seen Windows take this long to load in a little while

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uh wow

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it's like the gym teacher came in and Microsoft was like okay how many laps

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should I run coach and the gym teacher was like

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yes going around oh my God it's still going it

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went black for a second thought we were

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done do you guys remember the early days

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of SSD when people like me were out there going yeah SSD it's a big deal it

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makes a big difference and the hard drive enthusiasts because yes that was

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the thing we're all the transfer speeds aren't even that much faster hard drive

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hard drive hard drive no no this is what I was talking about

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man the CPU ain't

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helping are we going to leave this whole uninterrupted clip in the video just to

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show people hoing long it takes okay

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there we go there's the wallpaper hold on where's

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my password prompt look guys this is not fake okay I'm

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still waiting on it

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hey I don't know what we were doing for all those other circles but we're not

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done yet let's run some more my desktop icons are still

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loading Google Chrome what's that oh there it is where's my start menu at I

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right clicked let's see how long it takes to

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register this is not all hard Drive I've

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seen hard drive based computers be perfectly

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acceptable and this meets Windows 11's minimum specs this is within Windows

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11's minimum spec Microsoft did you learn nothing

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from Vista okay I'm just going to click the start

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menu listen for the

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delay wait for

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it hey you besides that no problem at all okay there we go oh no Counter

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Strike has an update Q Jord come on what

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160 megabytes that could take

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hours pause Doom yeah yeah no it'll it'll it'll do that it's just it needs a

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second to spool down it's stopping the download oh my God it's happened today

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yeah that 150 Megs a year hey there we

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go baby I'll fire up frame view but first I want to see how fast we can

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download a game we are almost certainly CPU bottlenecked right now and we are

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looking at 20 megabytes a second that's

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atrocious it's too broken for me to even compare the download speeds to I was

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just looking at our chilled thread per video and we were downloading at 8 gabit

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per second desktop window manager is

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pulling 5% of this CPU Windows problem reporting 4% we are

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coming down at between 15 and 20 megabytes per second so that's in the

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200 megabit range and we are sucking back 40% of this CPU we're going to see

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what's faster Linus's bladder or Counter-Strike running and install script my bets on Linus the computer

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wins and lus is not fast in the bathroom

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did I win oh never mind it's launched

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but I mean is it we could probably call it a draw it

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says walking wait up close it warning

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graphics driver is out of date we'll be okay don't show

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again they're from yesterday it'll probably be

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okay hello is it just broken I do not

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understand what's happening right now I think it's fading in cuz the background

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is getting darker this is messed up

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okay 1920 x 1080 here we go here we go

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that might help wow okay it's

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how is this built out of components you can still buy brand new why are

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companies selling these things is this Counter Strike 2 we're not trying to

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play cyberpunk I don't even think we'd be able to play Peggle on this thing

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without leg I'm waiting for task manager to load

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right now task manager in summary we

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spent 38 $380

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it's not even that cheap to build a steaming pile of garbage for real guys

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this is so slow that it's basically e-w

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by modern standards but we didn't do this because we thought it was a good

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idea we did it to illustrate a point

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which this far into the video we are now

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finally getting to thank you for your patience our alternative to the slowest

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PC last time went a little bit off the

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rails we suggested a build that cost

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twice as much and while obviously I know

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what we were trying to say by spending 2x you could achieve a performance

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uplift of 3x or 4X or even more this

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time we wanted to challenge ourselves to do better so we have stuck with the

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exact same price point of our slowest build and by turning to the used Market

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we have gotten a lot more bang for our buck Facebook Marketplace unfort for

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didn't have much exciting in our area at the moment but we hit Pay Dirt on

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Craigslist with this Acer pre-built with an eigh gen core i58400 that is a six

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Core sixth thread CPU 8 gigs of ddr4 RAM

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a 500 gig SSD and a fresh install of

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Windows 11 all for

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$200 old pre-assembled Office Machines

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like this are great for Budget Gamers because they are known to be compatible

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and working and they often come cheaper than the individual parts or even older

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custom gaming PCs if you see people listing those so we snapped it up and

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brought it back to the office to test out it came with a rather disappointing

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power supply just 300 wats and only

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enough connectors for what was already in the tower but otherwise everything

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looks like a decent enough base with our system and left us with a budget of $180

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for a GPU and a new power supply we were

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someone got a synonym for pretty darn surprised we were stupified to find a

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used 1080 TI for just $150 on eBay what

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a deal but unfortunately that didn't leave us with enough for a decent power

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supply so we ended up with a used non-ti

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1080 for around $120 and added a brand

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new thermal smart 650 watt for $60 let's

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fire this up for comparison hey nice

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it's even got a speaker for that price

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one two

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three and we're booted wow it's almost

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like it's a way better computer there's my task manager I mean sure that's a

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fair bit of CPU to be using at booted up but at least steam is open already wow

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what a difference man to be clear this is still an older machine that was a bit

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of a delay when I clicked on the system tray for the first time but this is a

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market difference I want to see how fast we can download a game get pegle okay

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it's not quite the same game I'm I'll get F1 so it's still not fast and we are

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clearly CPU bottlenecked at that speed look at this this is great but I was

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able to open task manager at least I was able to identify

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the problem the whole interface is so much snappier

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look what if I wanted to browse the web there it is look how quick this download

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is done the whole update is done in the time that it took to just click on it on

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the last computer oh that was supposed to be a video okay

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hilarious wow you can change to full screen just like that it's

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remarkable jeez man that was brutal dude

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okay that's not a ton of fpss those 1% lows

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in particular not that great but I got a kill already um I'll just oh oh hello

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spawn kill oh no

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what okay I'm not getting the highest

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FPS or anything like that especially those 1% lows are dipping down to like

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70 but this is very very usable and I

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know some people are just plain not interested in used Hardware because they

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have concerns about reliability they don't like the process of meeting up

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with people on Craigslist or whatever else but guys before you buy something

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entry level try and find your scrapyard War spirit because these experiences are

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not like when you're choosing a new graphics card for $400 and you might get

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72 FPS or 83 FPS we are talking dramatic

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differences in the usability of these machines oh what that was terrible I'd

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be so much happier with this like not

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even I mean look I do understand that you are giving up a warranty by going

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this route but if you test things before you buy them it's probably not a big

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deal if that 6-year-old 8-year-old CPU

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hasn't died already it's probably not going to die anytime soon and

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realistically if it does hey you've gained some valuable scrapyard boring

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skills that will get you back up and running in no time going the used route

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also reduces e waste keeping these still serviceable Parts in operation instead

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of in a landfill and I mean hey you get

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last time we built a slowest computer most of those parts are still available

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as well you want us to want us to race them or I know it's going to win maybe

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if we put Windows XP on them they'll have a chance maybe