WEBVTT 00:00:02.080 --> 00:00:08.160 and welcome to the W show guys the show 00:00:05.640 --> 00:00:10.599 where we uh talk about technology and oh whatever screw it if you guys are 00:00:09.440 --> 00:00:16.000 watching this you probably know what we do at this point we've been doing this for like a year more than that more than 00:00:13.719 --> 00:00:21.080 that quite a bit yeah one year anniversary it might be freakishly 00:00:19.439 --> 00:00:24.400 closer to two years yeah I think it's kind a little late on this anyway we've 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:31.000 got a great show for you guys today we've got steam in home streaming valve 00:00:27.560 --> 00:00:33.280 has finally started letting people try 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:36.879 the beta um there's mixed reports all over the Internet we're going to be 00:00:34.440 --> 00:00:41.280 discussing that unfortunately we haven't tried it personally yet but that may 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:44.760 change over the weekend wink wink nud nudge more on that a little bit later 00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:50.719 we've also got that South Korea is working on 5G Wireless connectivity um 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:54.800 and not just enabling it in handsets but actually developing the infrastructure 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:58.199 for it so more on that later I guess this is the teaser so it's all 00:00:56.559 --> 00:01:03.000 that later although I'm not saying any that anyone is a I'm just saying 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:06.479 that the information will come later and there will be more of it what else we 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:11.360 got there's a candied attempt at trademarking the word candy only a few 00:01:08.320 --> 00:01:13.400 people understand that um and NVIDIA the 00:01:11.360 --> 00:01:18.720 black is back we'll talk about that more later on as well yeah what does the 00:01:14.600 --> 00:01:18.720 black is back even mean 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:44.880 oh I did put the right intro oh well whatever I was going to change that so 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probably 00:02:28.959 --> 00:02:36.000 true although they're not really trying to sell it it comes for free if you have a membership already so oh yeah I don't 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:41.599 think it would be acquired for free very well it didn't do that 00:02:38.519 --> 00:02:44.200 yeah rabbit sortings all right so let's 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:50.040 jump into our first topic of the day alien wear's steam machine not 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.319 impossible to upgrade this made waves 00:02:50.040 --> 00:02:57.400 earlier in the week when I believe the article that I saw was also on kataku 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:02.640 but it was said that alien wears steam machines so this is basically guys just 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.840 a p PC was going to be non upgradable 00:03:02.640 --> 00:03:10.640 and I kind of looked at that and I went well how can you have a PC that's completely non- upgradable I mean you 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.799 should be able to upgrade RAM maybe 00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:16.280 unless they soldered the PCB or unless it was like at a maximum capacity 00:03:14.640 --> 00:03:19.239 already yeah okay which you could technically like I don't know unless it 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:24.560 was already maxed to the spec of the motherboard I mean you should be able to upgrade your drive even consoles even 00:03:22.920 --> 00:03:29.120 the PlayStation allows you to upgrade the drive on it so I was kind of looking 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:33.959 at it going okay so it's not upgradeable um and anyway Alienware has come out and 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:39.120 they have clarified it's not completely impossible to upgrade we just don't 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:44.480 really recommend it it is smaller and upgrading the internal components will 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:47.280 not be as easy as compared to other 00:03:44.480 --> 00:03:52.239 platforms but we will not prevent a customer from upgrading is what their 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:56.920 general manager Frank Azor told Euro gamer so so I guarantee someone will do 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.560 it at least just to prove that they can but that person would have to buy an 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:04.799 alien wear steam machine in the first place place that's a good point can you 00:04:02.519 --> 00:04:09.439 think of a good reason to buy a steam machine I've I've I talked about this in 00:04:07.040 --> 00:04:12.840 a few I think at least two I'm not sure exactly how many of my videos at CES 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:18.759 where I would cover something at a booth and I would be like this would really be cool to put in your own built by 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:23.800 yourself steam machine because you don't need to go buy one I mean is this the is 00:04:21.320 --> 00:04:28.120 this the whole console versus PC conversation all over again my my my 00:04:26.520 --> 00:04:32.960 favorite thing about it too is that everyone's like oh but this machines not 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:39.479 competing with consoles oh come on that's not what it's supposed to do we 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:44.479 all love each other like yeah no no it's 00:04:39.479 --> 00:04:44.479 there for a point no you C don't I 00:04:45.520 --> 00:04:54.039 mean um it's it's it's interesting but like I what about people who buy 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:57.039 pre-built PCS and prefer to just have something delivered to them ready to go 00:04:55.479 --> 00:05:02.800 I mean installing Steam OS might get easier later but right now it's a bit of 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:04.400 a pain in the ass candy rather um so 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:08.800 could you recommend to anyone with a straight face to buy a steam machine uh 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:12.199 yeah like a pre-built one like an alien if there was like literally no one to 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:16.440 build it for them but I don't know anywhere that there is no one to build 00:05:13.880 --> 00:05:19.440 it for you because places like ncx and I know of a lot of other small computer 00:05:17.919 --> 00:05:24.720 stores as well we just charge you like 50 bucks and then build it for you I 00:05:22.280 --> 00:05:27.720 mean it might be okay as long I mean motherboard and power supply I guess are 00:05:26.400 --> 00:05:32.440 going to be the really challenging ones so while you might be able to squeeze a 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:38.120 small RAM upgrade or a drive upgrade or even a an intergenerational CPU upgrade 00:05:35.840 --> 00:05:41.120 assuming assuming thermals are okay you're not going to be upgrading it in 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:45.080 any significant way anyway Alienware just suggests you grab an Alienware X51 00:05:43.520 --> 00:05:48.840 if you ever if you ever actually think you might try to change anything or you 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:55.160 could build your own or you could just build your own which is yeah probably 00:05:52.319 --> 00:06:00.600 the better way to go in my opinion which brings us to our next steam machine 00:05:57.960 --> 00:06:05.000 topic man I'm so excited for Steam OS being not beta 00:06:01.919 --> 00:06:06.840 anymore although I would settle for beta 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:11.400 at this point if they were willing to give me the inhome streaming beta are 00:06:08.960 --> 00:06:15.680 you properly set up am I properly set up yeah uh I could be very easily my steam 00:06:13.880 --> 00:06:20.400 machine is downstairs all I'd have to I mean um like is your Steam account yes 00:06:18.599 --> 00:06:24.919 on in the group and stuff yeah yeah so guys um why don't we just do a quick run 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:32.199 through of what in home streaming is so it's steam's counter to NVIDIA's gam 00:06:28.080 --> 00:06:35.080 stream technology or or really any other 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:39.000 local streaming technology except much more open and much more flexible I mean 00:06:37.080 --> 00:06:44.400 from the very start it's running in Linux so it's inherently open and 00:06:42.479 --> 00:06:49.560 probably going to be quite you know hackable and play with and then next up 00:06:48.080 --> 00:06:53.800 valve is coming right out and saying look we want you to run the streaming 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:58.520 service on anything that can possibly handle it or anything at least that can 00:06:55.560 --> 00:07:06.120 run Steam so that means if you wanted to stream from your desktop PC down to a 00:07:02.520 --> 00:07:08.240 little tiny like Gigabyte bricks on your 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:11.120 TV you could do that if you wanted to stream from your desktop PC to your 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:16.000 laptop you could do that if you wanted to stream from your laptop to uh a 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:19.440 tablet with like a controller plugged into it or a Bluetooth controller on it 00:07:17.479 --> 00:07:25.280 you could do that the idea is anything that can run Steam can wirelessly beam a 00:07:22.919 --> 00:07:31.400 game or wirelessly receive a game and then send the controls back the other 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:33.479 way so theyve released it as a beta and 00:07:31.400 --> 00:07:37.520 the verdicts are kind of rolling in although it's very much unfinished at 00:07:35.039 --> 00:07:42.360 this point and it looks like unless you're running gigabit Ethernet you're 00:07:39.919 --> 00:07:47.199 probably not going to have a terrific experience if you're trying to game at 00:07:44.039 --> 00:07:48.680 1080p 60 FPS but you can play around 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:55.039 with the settings somewhat so you can change to 30 FPS you can change to 720p 00:07:52.400 --> 00:07:58.440 you can even go down to 720p 30 FPS if you're having trouble but from the 00:07:56.840 --> 00:08:03.840 reports I'm seeing as long as you're running a strong strong dual band so 00:08:00.960 --> 00:08:09.599 that is 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi connection or you have gigabit Ethernet 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:13.479 then you're probably going to be able to 00:08:09.599 --> 00:08:13.479 1080p at least will work on the wired 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:19.759 connection drop down from all of that to wire 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:28.159 connection well it's just a reality I mean even with NVIDIA Shield so that's 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:30.440 70 70p UH 60 frames per second 70p 720p 00:08:28.159 --> 00:08:37.200 yeah it's like we've gone back to Commodore 64 resolutions because LOL um 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:39.440 so that's 720p 60 frames per second and 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:43.839 unless you're within a very reasonable range of your access point it's not a 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:49.399 great experience I mean NVIDIA's done a fantastic job of dynamically altering 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:53.880 the image quality according to what it can handle so I don't know how much 00:08:51.800 --> 00:08:58.519 you've played with it I haven't you took both of them right that is what I did I 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:05.200 actually haven't touched one other than at the NCIX Lan Okay cool so basically 00:09:02.959 --> 00:09:09.880 what it does is it just reduces color depth whenever it can't handle um 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:16.160 whenever it can't handle the data rate that it needs so as you move around the house you might have you know really 00:09:13.880 --> 00:09:19.720 great color depth and no blockiness and then if you move further away from your 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:23.839 access point it might become blocky and and look less clean but but it should 00:09:21.640 --> 00:09:29.160 still be low latency in theory I mean it's not always perfect so I don't know 00:09:27.079 --> 00:09:34.959 how well valves Works in this regard cuz I haven't actually tried it yet but 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:37.680 there's good news NC Keys has given us 00:09:34.959 --> 00:09:42.399 access to his Steam account he got a B everyone at NC got 00:09:39.640 --> 00:09:48.760 one Wheels got an invite Keys got an invite Jack got an invite neither of 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:50.279 us got beta access so I'm going to try 00:09:48.760 --> 00:09:56.040 it out I'm going to play around with it I'm going to be using uh I'll run I'll 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:57.959 run a proper gigabit cable down to my TV 00:09:56.040 --> 00:10:01.720 and then I'll try it with power line cuz I have kind of a Cheesy power 00:09:59.920 --> 00:10:04.560 adapter down there that isn't very good I'll see if that works then I'll try 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:08.040 Wireless so I'll have to take those ubiquity access points home over the 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:11.560 weekend but I'm really excited to play around with this uh guys that are 00:10:09.880 --> 00:10:16.800 interested in jumping on the beta it's not the like Steam account beta optin 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:21.560 that's for other stuff this is you have to go find the inhome streaming group 00:10:18.920 --> 00:10:24.560 and join the group um so it's it's not going to it's not your auto opt-in that 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:28.920 you might have set on your account settings it's actually more than that 00:10:26.560 --> 00:10:34.720 which some people did not realize ah so stoked about this I mean being able to 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:38.320 sit in bed and you know fire up the old 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:41.240 laptop and play desktop grade games with 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:46.519 a controller like well this brings back the onboard Graphics yeah yeah this 00:10:43.760 --> 00:10:51.040 brings back the uh I'm excited for like next Generation thing but not 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:55.279 necessarily for valve streaming I want faster internal home networks right so 00:10:53.839 --> 00:11:00.880 that we can actually support all this stuff a lot better because I found especially Wireless has been a big issue 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:05.480 in this term I would love for you guys to tell us how important this is to you 00:11:02.839 --> 00:11:10.240 tell us how excited you'd be about this but what do you think of trying to get 00:11:07.959 --> 00:11:17.279 our hands on a 4K display and running that on our 10 gig 00:11:14.839 --> 00:11:21.079 Network here cuz we here in the office we have a 10 gabit internal Network 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:26.279 we're using direct attach copper with SFP plus modules that are built right 00:11:23.680 --> 00:11:30.880 into them we have a 10 gig switch and we have a few 10 gig I have still another 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:34.839 adapter to spare that we could throw into the steam 00:11:32.560 --> 00:11:38.720 machine and get that fired up well I was thinking we should do like a big Roundup 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:42.480 so we can just add that as the like extreme ridiculous level of the Roundup 00:11:40.920 --> 00:11:47.600 because we should have like a netbook and a bricks and a gaming laptop and a 00:11:44.959 --> 00:11:52.519 medium desktop and a big desktop and like a 4K setup that sounds like way 00:11:49.959 --> 00:11:57.639 more work well we can exclude some of those but like what I mean is like have 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.959 a range of stuff and show that it's probably mainly Network that actually 00:11:59.560 --> 00:12:06.399 matters right right right I mean one other thing I was even thinking about 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:11.200 already was like okay MacBook Air has Thunderbolt remember that magma external 00:12:09.040 --> 00:12:16.040 Thunderbolt PCI Express enclosure you throw a 10 gbit adapter in there all of 00:12:13.959 --> 00:12:21.920 a sudden you've got 10 gigabit to 10 gbit to 10 gbit you've got a full 10 00:12:17.880 --> 00:12:25.320 gbit link between a gaming desktop and a 00:12:21.920 --> 00:12:25.320 Mac which can run 00:12:26.160 --> 00:12:31.720 Steam yeah so when once I actually are 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:35.320 are you trying to like justify the purchase of a of a Macbook or like 00:12:33.560 --> 00:12:39.959 what's what's the what's the point does Debian support 00:12:37.959 --> 00:12:44.959 Thunderbolt uh I would don't know but I don't know 00:12:43.199 --> 00:12:48.920 why it wouldn't yeah cuz you could then you could throw Steam OS on the MacBook 00:12:46.680 --> 00:12:53.920 you could get your beta go that's that's actually interesting I wonder if they do 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:56.560 so yeah anyway guys uh we'd love to hear 00:12:53.920 --> 00:13:01.120 people are talking about Bieber guys we don't talk about Justin Bieber on this 00:12:58.560 --> 00:13:04.800 show that's just not that's just not a thing that we talk about I'm sorry I 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:09.279 wish we could because he's just so dreamy looks like it 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:14.519 does so then we could be looking at pretty much the most lightweight 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:16.120 possible device running the most balling 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:21.600 possible Graphics I mean I might not even you did I show you the thing in 00:13:18.079 --> 00:13:24.240 Gigabyte Suite they had um they had an 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:29.560 external PCI Express like graphics card enclosure okay they actually had this 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:30.800 thing running using external SAS cables 00:13:29.560 --> 00:13:35.519 and they're like yeah we're kind of working on the interface 00:13:32.680 --> 00:13:39.000 still they just had they had a computer they had a computer that had like holes 00:13:37.079 --> 00:13:41.760 drilled in it and like SAS cables running out of it to to like this 00:13:40.560 --> 00:13:45.320 external enclosure they're like yeah we're oh it was working that's sick it 00:13:43.560 --> 00:13:48.800 was running so they're like yeah we're working on the interface we might use 00:13:46.920 --> 00:13:53.199 like Thunderbolt or usb3 or something I'm like yeah you better do that cuz 00:13:51.199 --> 00:13:57.120 this is this is not a this is not a good idea um hey maybe people could actually 00:13:55.800 --> 00:14:04.639 use the water cooling holes in their computers if they like didn't want to put a graphics card in their desktop for 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:06.519 whatever reason SAS PCI Express card to 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:12.680 no it was a propri so proprietary interface card to SAS cables to external 00:14:10.160 --> 00:14:18.759 box that's like ridiculous just why but it would be cool I don't know why but it 00:14:14.160 --> 00:14:20.759 would still be cool um so anyway this 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:25.160 might have gotten to the point where I just don't care about that anymore 00:14:22.920 --> 00:14:29.680 because if I could just have one device in my house that can stream to anything 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:33.279 in my house then why would I want a dedicated hard line between that 00:14:31.800 --> 00:14:36.880 graphics card and the other thing so before that thing came out it now 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:41.199 doesn't really matter yeah and the stupid thing about it is everyone's been 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:44.560 teasing these external graphics card enclosures for so long and now we've 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.600 gotten to the point where it might just not matter I mean this is my problem 00:14:47.199 --> 00:14:56.360 with the new Mac Pro it relies on this 00:14:52.680 --> 00:14:58.440 nonswitchable non networked interface it 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:02.959 relies on a point-to-point connection between device device a and device B to 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:06.560 me that is not the future that is not the connected home that is not the 00:15:04.959 --> 00:15:10.639 connected life that's not the internet of things that's not what it's about 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:14.839 it's about everything being able to access the same pooled resources you 00:15:13.160 --> 00:15:19.120 know cloud computing is an example of this on a much broader scale but the 00:15:16.920 --> 00:15:23.600 personal cloud is what really excites me so having that machine in your house 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:27.839 that lives in the closet and now can be full of hard drives for your own 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:31.759 personal cloud storage and then it can be full of 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:35.440 graphics cards so you can beam Graphics horsepower to yourself you look at this 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:39.880 internet connectivity that the Koreans are working on what is it 300 megabit 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:44.440 per second the 5G stuff yeah no it's Gigabyte sorry what how much Gigabyte I 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:49.120 must have been looking at the wrong thing one Gigabyte per second yeah they want you to be able to download a movie 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:54.360 in a second and they want you to be able to access the internet on a 500 mph 00:15:51.959 --> 00:15:58.680 bullet train okay so there you go 1 gab per second connectivity if they can get 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:02.800 the latencies down enough and remember guys 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:05.959 we sort of you know freak out about 00:16:02.800 --> 00:16:09.000 input lag and about latency a lot but 00:16:05.959 --> 00:16:11.519 consider this for a moment I can ping 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:17.040 NVIDIA's gam stream servers at I think it was about 35 milliseconds and that's 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:22.959 from hundreds of kilometers away I'm I'm well north of Santa Clara okay on a mo 00:16:20.800 --> 00:16:27.440 on a on a wireless connection you might be able to achieve let's say in the 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:33.680 future a best case scenario if you could achieve 30 to 50 milliseconds of 00:16:30.920 --> 00:16:40.240 ping that might be doable a TV will often have an excess of 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:45.600 30 to 50 milliseconds of input leg consider that if you can game on a TV if 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:50.639 you could have a nice low latency display on a device like a shield or a 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:53.720 phone and pretty much the only delay 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:55.600 left was that network connection you 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:59.880 could actually have and if you had a faster home internet so we've got fiber 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:03.800 here now so even you don't need a ton of bandwidth you just need a consistent 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:07.319 connection so between fiber and having a consistent wireless connection you could 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:11.199 actually be looking at beaming your cloud storage your cloud computing to 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:17.280 yourself pretty much wherever you want that is the future not an octopus of you 00:17:15.439 --> 00:17:22.160 know Thunderbolt cables coming out of one box however beautiful and small and 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:25.880 actually quiet I finally had a chance to see a new Mac Pro in person and it is 00:17:24.199 --> 00:17:31.000 phenomenally quiet I got to give them that anyway I don't think so the the uh 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:36.120 5G technology that they're showing off can beam Gigabyte per second over more 00:17:34.320 --> 00:17:40.799 than Gigabyte per second over a distance of two kilometers unbelievable here why 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:47.880 don't we why don't we launch into that just because I think I'm pretty much done with steam in home streaming and 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:53.200 you know Candy you valve for not including us in that super unhappy but 00:17:50.760 --> 00:17:57.679 at least I get to try it yeah that's a good point this won't be ready for 00:17:54.960 --> 00:18:00.360 commercial for until about 2020 and they're going to do like testing we're 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:06.640 not talking about inh home streaming we're talking about which you guys haven't seen yet South Korean 5G I 00:18:04.320 --> 00:18:12.080 wasn't sure you were up yet or not umth Korean 5G are you are you candy um which 00:18:10.520 --> 00:18:17.200 will be ready for testing like I said in 2017 and ready for commercial service in 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:20.120 20120 hopefully this is a bid for Korea to try and get more on the network 00:18:18.840 --> 00:18:24.799 infrastructure side of things they've been really really big 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:30.760 obviously hold on hold on just a sec sorry guys sorry guys I got this i 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:34.280 got this yeah yeah was that running the whole 00:18:32.520 --> 00:18:37.200 time no no no no no I I've been monitoring okay cool don't worry it's 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:42.520 all good okay okay sorry talk about this so 1.5 billion bucks on movie in a 00:18:40.360 --> 00:18:46.360 second service yeah and this second service was tested a lot by Samsung and 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:52.320 Samsung was able to beam faster than like I already said faster than Gigabyte 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:57.240 per second for two kilometers this would enable people to access it on bullet 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:58.799 trains going faster than 500 km an hour 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:05.000 which is ridiculous I might have said 500 Miles previously it's 310 mph 500 km 00:19:02.120 --> 00:19:13.000 an hour um that's absurd right now the cap is 300 um km an hour yeah so to put 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:17.440 this in perspective guys one Gigabyte per second after you know overhead the 00:19:15.320 --> 00:19:21.200 quick and dirty conversion is 10x if you want to get to gigabit so this is 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:26.280 effectively as fast as a Thunderbolt connection and obviously not every 00:19:23.840 --> 00:19:31.000 individual user is going to get that kind of uh of data throughput all the 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:35.000 time and much like that test they were doing in London this is a this is a 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:39.919 proof of concept right now by the time it gets rolled out to mass Market we we 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:44.799 could be looking at much lower cost infrastructure and sort of the that 820 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:49.000 rule how can we spend 20% as much as we did on that research project and Achieve 00:19:46.840 --> 00:19:54.679 80% of those results or even 60% of those results but either way if I could 00:19:51.520 --> 00:19:56.520 get anywhere near that if I could get 00:19:54.679 --> 00:20:02.200 100 megabytes per second that would be gigabit speeds on something like this 00:20:00.280 --> 00:20:07.520 now we're talking that's still insane like absolutely insane and the whole 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:12.799 idea of this is Korea's saying that with 2G 3G and 4G they saw a national boost 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:16.799 of just like everything like National growth was just better with those 00:20:14.760 --> 00:20:18.919 infrastructures so the idea with 5G is we're going to do that again and the 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:23.880 idea is that they're going to be producing Network infrastructure so right now they're really big in the 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:27.640 mobile handheld game but they want to be really big in the infrastructure that 00:20:25.280 --> 00:20:32.679 goes behind pushing data to those they expect to see 20% % of that uh Telecom 00:20:30.520 --> 00:20:37.039 infrastructure by 2020 and I think they're running at about like 4.4% now 00:20:34.840 --> 00:20:43.200 so it's actually a huge increase and given how quickly mobile is growing that 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:47.880 that 20% could be a lot more than five times or four times what they're doing 00:20:44.760 --> 00:20:49.320 now yeah exactly yeah that's pretty 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:53.760 crazy Samsung was able to do it by harnessing millimeter wave bands which 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.480 were apparently a huge issue tell me something and I'd love to hear you know 00:20:55.120 --> 00:21:01.799 what let's do a Twitter Blitz we don't do those enough these days that's true 00:20:58.600 --> 00:21:04.480 Twitter Blitz guys would you consider 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:09.799 moving like let's let's use South Korea as an example okay would you consider 00:21:07.520 --> 00:21:16.320 packing your packing your candy and moving across the globe for better it 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:20.120 infrastructure if you were living in somewhere with like basically craptastic 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:24.880 internet that you're paying way too much for would you go okay I'm willing to do 00:21:22.919 --> 00:21:28.679 what so many immigrants have done the other way around let's let's I'm going 00:21:26.600 --> 00:21:33.120 to talk to the North Americans out there you know the people who just drop 00:21:30.919 --> 00:21:37.039 everything and come to this you know the the new world so to speak to to make 00:21:35.120 --> 00:21:41.919 their Fortune would you be willing to do the opposite would you be willing to 00:21:38.600 --> 00:21:45.240 move to South Korea to get much much 00:21:41.919 --> 00:21:48.640 better internet and television service 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:50.760 and um you know mobile broadband and you 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:55.200 know access to better handsets and all that kind of stuff are you a technology 00:21:52.880 --> 00:22:00.840 enabled lifestyle enough person that that would matter enough to you to move 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:05.360 would love to hear from you guys on this how about you personally yes but I think 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:09.279 ours is at least good enough that I'm not there right 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:14.919 now what if okay because Define good enough it's good enough for what we do 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:19.679 with it yeah it's good enough for email it's good enough for streaming 00:22:16.520 --> 00:22:23.480 lowquality video um but nothing you know 00:22:19.679 --> 00:22:26.440 4K or anything obviously what if by 00:22:23.480 --> 00:22:32.520 moving to okay here so stay with me what if 2020 rolls around okay 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:34.240 Oculus is wirel hold on you know you're 00:22:32.520 --> 00:22:39.880 going to win with this hold on hold on okay so Oculus is Wireless by this time 00:22:36.360 --> 00:22:43.559 dirty okay uh valve has released Steam 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:46.799 for Android okay okay and you could 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:49.120 literally be sitting on a train playing 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:53.039 a game on a bullet train traveling at 500 kmet an hour maybe faster than that 00:22:51.360 --> 00:22:58.159 by then maybe faster than that by then playing a game that's running on your 00:22:54.679 --> 00:23:00.840 desktop at home with full 4K Graphics 00:22:58.159 --> 00:23:05.240 would you move for that experience if back here in North America we're still 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:10.520 on 4G and we're like figuring out how to play like Netflix on our phones still 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:14.400 and dealing with uh you know bandwidth caps I could see that I could actually 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:19.120 see that maybe not for the bullet train thing but there's a billion in one other examples that could work like and the 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:23.880 bullet train one's not a bad example it's just yeah um that yeah that would 00:23:22.520 --> 00:23:28.760 be pretty cool because there's stuff like people were talking about the the 00:23:25.679 --> 00:23:30.840 valve Hollow deck mhm like if that kind 00:23:28.760 --> 00:23:34.760 by 2020 like they're talking this kind of stuff should be consumer not 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:40.159 necessarily the Hol deck but like valve is saying that uh that VR should be 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:43.679 consumer ready and good like actually really good and that's valve saying it 00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:50.240 should be good um in the next like two years it's not 2020 it should be 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:52.480 freaking epic by 2020 so so it's it's 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:58.080 it's the the possibilities all the possibilities so yes probably cuz VR I'm 00:23:56.039 --> 00:24:01.640 kind of I'm kind of kind of really liking the whole VR thing all right 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:07.240 let's go ahead and see what the folks on Twitter think um Johan says no because 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:11.720 porn is censored in Korea that's actually kind of a valid Hotspot Shield 00:24:09.919 --> 00:24:16.720 yeah actually speaking of uh show sponsors Hotspot Shield is not our 00:24:13.880 --> 00:24:20.919 sponsor today but you used Hotspot Shield in Korea right yep uh we could 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:25.279 not access any Google services for some reason uh in our hotel lobby and we 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:28.480 didn't have Wi-Fi we didn't have uh mobile connections at the time so we 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:32.320 only had Wi-Fi possibilities we had to sit in the hotel lobby and somehow 00:24:30.120 --> 00:24:39.880 communicate with each other so hotot Shield Google services yay yeah anyway 00:24:35.760 --> 00:24:41.120 there you go had a plan to move to oh 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:45.440 someone was apparently already thinking about it but we don't know who it is anymore where did it 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:52.080 go oh my goodness what happened there I don't know oh okay here we go here we go 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:56.720 uh emo polar bear had a plan to move to Sweden for better it and education oh 00:24:54.880 --> 00:25:02.039 that's yeah that's my friend I know him D dartel figures nope nope uh I would 00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:05.480 absolutely move to South Korea for phenomenally better internet it's funny 00:25:03.600 --> 00:25:10.360 because when you talk about country growth and how you can stimulate it 00:25:08.320 --> 00:25:13.120 better infrastructure this is I mean you look at the you look at the candy 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:18.480 backwards way we're doing it here in Canada where they build a bridge and 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:20.360 then put a toll on it huge toll an 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:25.640 enormous toll one that can that one that costs even if you're a regular user and 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:30.000 you buy a pass about $7 a day to get to and from work I mean when you factor in 00:25:27.760 --> 00:25:34.760 that minimum wage here is $10 and the income tax on a minimum wage earner 00:25:32.080 --> 00:25:39.640 could be anywhere from after sales taxes for things like food could be as much as 00:25:36.399 --> 00:25:41.799 like 30% we're talking about an hour of 00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:46.880 your day an eighth of your day if you're a full-time laborer just across a bridge 00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:50.200 that doesn't even factor in gas and whatever else if you're expected to 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:53.360 drive a car which if you're in that municipality you pretty much have to 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:57.440 because the public transit here is terrible I've changed how I get over 00:25:55.240 --> 00:26:00.240 there I I know I Go in different routes cuz it's so expensive 00:25:58.840 --> 00:26:04.200 people were like oh it'll save on gas you don't weigh in traffic that much 00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:07.000 that's the that's that's the candy backwards way of doing things you give 00:26:05.760 --> 00:26:11.240 people things that they need I mean the Romans had this figured out you build 00:26:08.760 --> 00:26:16.080 roads and the the economic advantages will come no we're like well no we have 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:21.480 to you have to pay us for the road after we build it anyway so South Korea is 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:25.640 investing they are making their country a better place to live and we're seeing 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:28.799 it in the responses already yeah I would I would move to I would move to a 00:26:27.320 --> 00:26:36.520 country that offer better infrastructure and better Services anyway so slow bro figures yes 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:41.080 um Peter figures I would if I had the money and candy is trademark that 00:26:38.679 --> 00:26:44.600 copyright yeah no they're trying I wouldn't move but I would keep it in 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:49.679 mind if I was ever on a trip near there I would totally move from America says 00:26:46.320 --> 00:26:51.840 Mitch nope in Ohio I got what I need in 00:26:49.679 --> 00:26:56.159 Singapore there's already 1 Gigabyte per second plans not for uh not for mobile 00:26:54.080 --> 00:27:01.000 that's not what we're talking about uh yep yes yes 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:06.320 no unless they're willing to lower prices change piracy laws and have a 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:09.760 government like ours # democracy um 00:27:06.320 --> 00:27:10.840 lower prices on what I I don't and I 00:27:09.760 --> 00:27:14.960 don't know what their government system is because I don't I don't no I wouldn't 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:19.320 but I would appreciate if the Canadian isps would get their candy together yeah 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:22.720 gotcha if I could still speak English then yes that's an interest but this is 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:26.559 like it doesn't necessarily have to be Korea as well I think I think the 00:27:24.679 --> 00:27:31.279 question is more would you move I did specifically say Korea though yeah okay 00:27:28.919 --> 00:27:36.320 I sure I'm sure would Can't Get Enough even willing to pay more they just won't 00:27:33.320 --> 00:27:38.760 give it up uh not unless us became more 00:27:36.320 --> 00:27:43.000 terrible okay that's from David I would move from Germany to Korea for 00:27:40.760 --> 00:27:48.159 internet wow look at that no doubt I would jump on the next 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.159 plane this is a lot of people saying yes it's actually a little bit more people 00:27:49.399 --> 00:27:54.679 saying yes than I expected this is a lot more than I was expecting chance asks if 00:27:53.120 --> 00:27:58.559 I've learned about if I've heard about Limelight pie and asks to talk about it 00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.279 we were actually discussing that earlier this week um it's not one of our topics 00:28:00.679 --> 00:28:05.720 for the show today specifically but we might as well talk about a little bit um 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:09.440 the last time I tried Limelight was over a month ago so I don't know if what I'm 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:13.919 saying is valid anymore but it's a terrible experience this was using an 00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:18.919 NVIDIA shield and then I also tried it on an HTC1 which has a qualcom processor 00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:23.279 so it should support the h264 hardware decoding that is required for the best 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:28.519 possible experience and it just wasn't very good it was extremely laggy 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:30.679 compared to uh Nidia gam stream and I'd 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:36.120 be willing to give it another shot in the next little bit here but um 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:39.919 basically what chance is asking about is sort of a movement right now to use 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:44.880 Limelight which is could be used for game streaming and and already kind of 00:28:41.600 --> 00:28:47.799 works on a Raspberry Pi to have a very 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:52.640 very low power very small very efficient game streaming box for TV really cool 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:57.279 because if it did work really well I don't know I haven't tried it at all and 00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:58.559 he Tri it a while ago incredibly cheap 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:03.200 yeah you could basically strap a Raspberry Pi to the back of every single 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:07.440 display you own and have all your gaming horsepower right there and I think that 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:11.080 is the future m i mean oh man okay you already have a wireless Bluetooth 00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:15.360 speaker in your shower yep if you could have a wireless waterproof game 00:29:13.120 --> 00:29:19.760 controller in your shower you could have like a tablet dock you could literally 00:29:17.840 --> 00:29:24.240 game in the shower I'd be down I already dance and sing so so you might as well 00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:27.760 game yeah I mean waterproof Oculus okay now we're probably going i' I'd probably 00:29:26.399 --> 00:29:35.399 still do that probably going a little bit just do like Mario under under sea 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:38.799 levels oh my 00:29:35.399 --> 00:29:43.440 God what the cand is wrong with you 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:45.399 nothing I like my candy Oculus all right 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:51.240 uh let's move on to our next topic I think speech recognition hack 00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:53.039 potentially turns Chrome into a an 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:58.120 advanced bugging device this was posted on the Forum by fushi and the original 00:29:55.600 --> 00:30:01.640 article is by ARS Technica so I think I think you had done a little bit more 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:06.640 looking into this than I had so it's not like if you just skim it real quick it's 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:10.840 not quite as bad as it first looks because what happens is you go you have 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:14.799 to go to a website and tell that website that you can that it can use your mic 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:18.320 the problem is it's not disabling it when you tell it to so you you tell it 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:25.279 to disable your mic you go to a different website that website then has to have a popup that you have to not 00:30:23.080 --> 00:30:29.159 close and then it can record what you're saying because that pop-ups there and 00:30:27.080 --> 00:30:33.519 can record it but like the amount of times that that series of events will 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:36.679 properly happen is I don't think very high although it is still a serious 00:30:35.360 --> 00:30:42.279 problem I'm not saying it's not a serious problem and I can't believe they haven't fixed it as they've known for 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:47.760 four months which is kind of crazy they say it's not evil but it could very 00:30:44.679 --> 00:30:49.519 easily be used for something bad and 00:30:47.760 --> 00:30:53.600 someone other than the person that found it might find a way to run this say 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:59.159 without a pop up the second you remove the pop up or pop under um it's I I 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:02.440 think becomes a much bigger deal yeah because the the second the second there 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:06.440 isn't that thing that everyone has trained themselves to automatically close 00:31:04.840 --> 00:31:12.360 immediately um is is like way more serious because 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:16.440 there there's going to be a lot more websites where their voice activated 00:31:14.360 --> 00:31:23.240 Google Now if you go to Google's homepage um has their voice activation 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:24.639 but not there maybe on Chrome um has 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:28.320 their yeah I guess it would be Chrome has their voice activation button so 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:32.919 people that are searching Google Google based on voice that's now a thing and 00:31:31.360 --> 00:31:38.559 then if it wasn't to popup it would be a lot easier for that to happen there we go yeah here it is guys in case you 00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:41.960 haven't seen it yet so the voice activation button just on the right side 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:46.440 of the search bar so if he presses that and tell me about the privacy issues 00:31:44.600 --> 00:31:50.480 associated with your voice record oh I have to click allow so there you go you 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:56.039 have to click allow y tell me about the privacy issues that this voice 00:31:52.639 --> 00:31:59.440 activation is going to 00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:01.120 cause oh it was doing so well up till 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.080 then it was all right so there's something about Google Glass something 00:32:02.679 --> 00:32:08.159 about Xbox one anyway that's not really the point of our conversation right now 00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:11.559 so so I think it's slightly sensationalized as I think a lot of 00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:15.279 people freaked out immediately but I really don't think very many people are 00:32:12.840 --> 00:32:20.399 going to run up into this um as people automatically close popups and I don't 00:32:17.760 --> 00:32:23.799 think that many people are using not everyone automatically closes pop-ups I 00:32:22.120 --> 00:32:28.679 mean I think that sometimes you're guilty of this and I think sometimes we 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:31.000 all are of assuming a level of technical 00:32:28.679 --> 00:32:34.360 competence that other people don't have but it's not that's my thing it's not 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:37.519 technical competence it's people being annoyed pop unders are completely 00:32:36.360 --> 00:32:41.639 different story and what she's talking about in the video is a pop under 00:32:39.639 --> 00:32:48.360 because you might not notice it and especially with newer for years my mom 00:32:45.120 --> 00:32:50.320 refused to click the x button in the top 00:32:48.360 --> 00:32:54.799 right I've never met someone like that in all my like Tex support years she 00:32:52.440 --> 00:33:00.679 insisted on clicking the little line because she was used to I don't know 00:32:57.600 --> 00:33:02.559 when Windows 3.1 or something where and 00:33:00.679 --> 00:33:05.399 and like even in 3.1 you weren't supposed to do that like everything 00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:11.840 would just be like piled up at the bottom there are people that 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.960 exist that do not close popups but then 00:33:11.840 --> 00:33:17.159 how many of them are going to have a setup that has a mic where they can use 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:22.120 voice activation for search with a laptop any one of them because that's 00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:26.039 what I just did on my laptop all I had to do was click allow once have you ever 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:28.360 done that outside of that environment which environment the one we just had on 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:32.519 the show no yeah but that's not that's not the 00:33:30.919 --> 00:33:37.799 point like someone like you could disguise I mean okay you look at scams 00:33:34.919 --> 00:33:44.039 that you and I kind of laugh at your viruses blah blah blah blah click yes 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:47.799 now that is what we're talking about here yeah that's very true and like it 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:52.360 it will happen that's why I'm say I just don't think it'll happen as much and 00:33:50.399 --> 00:33:56.639 because there's going to be such in my opinion a small demographic that you can 00:33:54.840 --> 00:33:59.639 Target with this I don't think there's going to be a crazy amount of we sites 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:06.480 out there pushing for this because when you're making a virus or something you're looking I think you underestimate 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:09.800 the market of dumb candies that are out 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.760 there um yeah I know but like that's 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:16.079 that's the whole thing where people were saying like oh there's no viruses on Max it's because the market was much smaller 00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.800 there's more viruses on Windows not because Mac was harder to write viruses 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:23.359 for but because there was such a larger user base so your target think because 00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:27.960 there are so few people with laptops with microphones no so few people that 00:34:25.839 --> 00:34:30.720 are going to actually do this like like in in in the example in the video she 00:34:29.560 --> 00:34:34.599 goes to a website where you can make a to-do list with your voice yes how many 00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:38.320 people are going to do that not very many like how many how many times is 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:43.399 someone going to go to a website okay how about this what if you created a 00:34:40.040 --> 00:34:45.440 popup that made someone go to a website 00:34:43.399 --> 00:34:50.399 where it convinced them that their Bank needed a voice clip from them for 00:34:47.399 --> 00:34:51.320 security that's actually not too bad 00:34:50.399 --> 00:34:59.760 that's what I'm trying to say but then how are you pushing that popup some other website like no no but really like 00:34:56.839 --> 00:35:05.599 consider the consider the Nigerian prce scam okay oh I knew this was going to 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.760 come up lose people fall for that that 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:12.839 it still exists and that they're still doing it enough people actually send 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:17.079 money to someone never mind just record a voice clip which is seemingly 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:20.160 completely innocuous this is this is where I lose the argument I knew the 00:35:18.720 --> 00:35:25.880 Nigerian prince was going to come out as the Nigerian prince is like is like if 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:28.160 we had a card game okay the lonus Media 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:32.000 Group card game would have the n Prince card and that would be the trump 00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:36.760 card all right you play the Nigerian prince and it's all over yep yep it's 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:40.200 done it's over I lose I did I the whole time we were talking I was like it's 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:45.119 going to come out at some point and then I'm 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:46.800 done totally screwed yeah yeah so they 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:51.920 need to fix that they do I can't believe it hasn't like even despite what I was 00:35:49.319 --> 00:35:56.040 arguing with um they've known for four months I can't believe it hasn't been 00:35:53.160 --> 00:36:00.200 fixed because like no matter how small of an issue I might think it is it's 00:35:58.160 --> 00:36:04.240 still an issue yeah and it still should have been fixed and they're like oh it's 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.880 not evil but it can very easily be used for evil they even have things where it 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:12.359 can it can start up the recording based if it hears certain words so if you say 00:36:09.839 --> 00:36:15.079 like NSA or Syria it'll start recording um hashtag killed your wife it could 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.920 probably start recording it could start recording that um and and it can it can 00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:24.200 like manipulate that text so it can it can take that text and save it somewhere 00:36:21.839 --> 00:36:29.960 specifically be easily because it shows in the video she says NSA in Syria and 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:31.960 it like bolds it makes it big formats a 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.599 little bit makes it red meaning that you could pull those out easily with a 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:41.680 different program and then save them somewhere right speaking of privacy concerns 00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:46.079 Microsoft offers overseas data storage in response to NSA concerns this is 00:36:43.640 --> 00:36:52.240 posted by hdz X on the Forum and the original article is from The Verge this 00:36:49.359 --> 00:36:58.040 to me is I okay like everyone else is probably talking about the implications 00:36:54.240 --> 00:37:00.839 of the overseas data storage and that 00:36:58.040 --> 00:37:04.560 may or may not actually affect the nsa's ability to steal the data I mean it 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:09.160 would probably cause more of a fuss with the local government of wherever the 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:10.560 data storage is um but it seems like 00:37:09.160 --> 00:37:16.800 they haven't cared about that in the past so I don't know how much that'll 00:37:13.359 --> 00:37:18.839 help but to me this is more of a 00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:25.319 potential long-term extremely dangerous path that the US is 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:28.560 headed down yep I I mean right now one 00:37:25.319 --> 00:37:29.920 of you look to you look to the the huge 00:37:28.560 --> 00:37:35.000 us-based corporations that are are driving 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:39.839 Revenue into the country the microsofts and Googles and apples of the world if 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:46.200 you candy those guys off enough why wouldn't they just leave and 00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:48.280 this could be a thickly veiled attempt 00:37:46.200 --> 00:37:53.560 to slowly move infrastructure out so you can move out so all of a sudden 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:58.160 Microsoft has been forced not even necessarily because they want to but 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.560 they have been forced to move 00:37:58.160 --> 00:38:05.040 their resources out of the country not only that but remember the whole like 00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:10.119 made in the USA and I mean I'm talking North America in general you know um uh 00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:15.480 Apple's push new Mac Pro assembled in the USA you know that being a selling 00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:17.319 point all of a sudden the US government 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:23.400 has created so much negativity around this data security and 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:28.160 privacy issue that now it is a selling point that they've outsourced it there's 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:32.280 there's actually there's a there was mainly a while ago uh not really now as 00:38:30.520 --> 00:38:37.640 far as I can tell a huge phobia boat made in China well there always is but 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:41.079 um because of security issues what if they bugged the chip or what if they did 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:44.760 whatever right so so people were worried about that a lot and I see less people 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:48.359 worried about that now and now people are worried about that in America yeah 00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.960 which just like how did you screw that up so hard well actually we know exactly 00:38:50.720 --> 00:38:58.640 how they screwed that up so hard so that's that's extremely that's 00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:03.560 extremely troubling to me how they could have let this get so far out of hand so 00:39:02.200 --> 00:39:08.760 there there's there's a few things that people are bringing up which you already dismissed some of them but um like like 00:39:07.560 --> 00:39:13.520 there's the thing brought up a while ago how the NSA had actually penetrated into 00:39:11.560 --> 00:39:18.040 Microsoft Yahoo and Google and all all like a ton of different guys internal 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:19.839 networks so like does this even help 00:39:18.040 --> 00:39:23.839 maybe not they probably still in there I don't know but either way Microsoft is 00:39:21.520 --> 00:39:27.359 moving out and like you said the biggest thing probably is the fact that they are 00:39:25.359 --> 00:39:32.040 moving infrastructure out and they could potentially move they would have already 00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:34.319 needed data centers overseas but now 00:39:32.040 --> 00:39:39.960 they have an excuse to move more of it yeah more exactly interesting more 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:44.960 Microsoft news yeah that's not all that's not all positive for Microsoft 00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:48.599 this week there is a big hubub around uh 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:50.319 Microsoft paying YouTubers for mentions 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:56.760 so let's go ahead and fire that up over here this is posted on the form by devil 00:39:52.359 --> 00:39:58.000 Z and uh dude you really got to flesh 00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:03.200 things out a little a little bit more the original article is from RS Technica 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:08.280 so stealth marketing Microsoft paying YouTubers for Xbox One mentions so 00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:12.319 Microsoft was involved Machinima the multi Channel network was involved and 00:40:10.040 --> 00:40:15.720 I'd like to start by saying that we have nothing to do with Machinima and just 00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:20.319 because some YouTubers are partnered with Machinima doesn't necessarily mean they're bad people it just means they 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:25.240 might have gotten suckered a little bit machinima's reputation among the 00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:29.400 YouTuber Community is quite negative they've done some pretty shady stuff 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:33.680 over over the years uh including things like uh Perpetual contracts with 00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:38.920 YouTubers which are illegal and then Perpetual contracts with underage 00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:40.800 YouTubers which is illegal too so 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:44.480 they're both illegal and then pressuring these people and making them feel like 00:40:42.520 --> 00:40:50.800 they can't leave and they can't get out like Machinima has not always been the 00:40:46.839 --> 00:40:54.760 most um straight edge company 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:56.240 necessarily but with that said um you 00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:59.240 know what okay you know what here I'll let you explain what was going going on 00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:02.200 and then I'll I'll weigh in with my Spiel I'd love to hear what you guys 00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:06.400 think on Twitter about this as well lineus tech on Twitter explain what you 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:12.200 was going on as in like how they were doing it or why yeah just talk about what happened so there's they they 00:41:09.720 --> 00:41:16.200 proposed a $3 CPM so you'd get three extra dollars per thousand views that 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:20.079 you got and there was just a lot by the way it's it adds up there was some 00:41:18.839 --> 00:41:23.720 prerequisites though you had to be a mission and a partner you had to have at 00:41:21.839 --> 00:41:28.000 least 30 seconds of Xbox One game footage you had to mention the Xbox One 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:32.880 by name and you had to include the tag xb1 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:38.240 M13 um there was also a few other things like in the guidelines for it may not 00:41:36.240 --> 00:41:44.079 say anything negative or disparaging about Machinima Xbox One or any of its 00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:48.319 games so it had to include footage you had to mention Xbox One by name and you 00:41:46.040 --> 00:41:51.599 had to be positive no matter what you don't have to be positive you can't say 00:41:50.040 --> 00:41:54.960 anything disparaging okay that there's a 00:41:53.640 --> 00:42:00.440 difference I guess you could be neutral you could be neutral you could be neutral so it' be positive or 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:03.800 but if they put a clause that says don't say anything negative I think the 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:08.560 implication is you should say something positive so you're not wrong you're just 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:13.240 not necessarily technically right yeah okay go ahead um so so this and like 00:42:11.240 --> 00:42:17.520 quite a few people jumped on it actually and Machinima got flamed for it and then 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:20.880 there's other big problems like uh the main thing being that I don't think too 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:25.520 many people would have had a big problem with it if they were open about it a lot 00:42:23.160 --> 00:42:29.440 of YouTubers did this without mentioning the whole Kickback thing because I I 00:42:27.240 --> 00:42:32.520 think it had to be confidential um I think there's actually somewhere in here 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.480 yeah it had to be confidential in some form uh you must also keep details of 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:41.119 the promotional agreement confidential in order to qualify for payment so the 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:45.520 idea is if if it was super transparent I don't think too many people would have 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:47.599 cared much but because it was so shady a 00:42:45.520 --> 00:42:52.520 lot of people cared there's actually FTC guidelines saying that say you received 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:53.960 a gift from someone and then you did a 00:42:52.520 --> 00:42:58.000 did coverage on it in some way it has to be necessarily A gift like even a review 00:42:56.520 --> 00:43:02.160 sample yeah um actually I don't know if a review 00:42:59.680 --> 00:43:05.440 sample qual yeah yeah I think it does you have to you have to you have to 00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:08.920 specify and that's this is in America in Canada I actually don't have to tell you 00:43:07.240 --> 00:43:12.440 guys that I got a sample I think it's implied though um because usually I'll 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.960 tell you guys I bought it if it isn't a review sample so yeah and then throwing 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:20.200 that out there extra things like like the Oculus review that's coming out or 00:43:18.319 --> 00:43:24.520 came out I guess from me I bought that and then there's a Wii U one coming out 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:28.599 soon that was purchased as well like usually unless it's like unboxing BL 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:35.520 blah blah blah blah blah we we actually bought it yeah um yeah I guess that's my 00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:38.680 take on it so um problem or not a 00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:38.680 problem I think a 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.599 problem I think there is a problem here 00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:50.880 but not necessarily for the reasons that a lot of people think I think the clause 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:59.280 about not saying anything disparaging about Microsoft Machinima or games is 00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:04.160 maybe I don't actually think that's necessarily that bad because it's 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:09.359 implied it's implied and and well okay the problem is if you had something 00:44:06.240 --> 00:44:11.599 negative to say just don't take it yes 00:44:09.359 --> 00:44:15.400 yeah so like if if you take you can take this bonus you have to say something 00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:20.000 nice you cannot take this bonus and say whatever the hell you want there's candy 00:44:17.839 --> 00:44:24.040 whatever the candy you want it's it's optional so that I don't necessarily 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:29.599 mind I don't like the you have to keep it confidential blah blah blah so here's 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:35.319 the thing um for example our Squarespace sponsorship um there's a confidentiality 00:44:32.160 --> 00:44:37.200 class okay I can't tell you guys how 00:44:35.319 --> 00:44:43.240 much Squarespace is paying us when they sponsor the L 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:44.920 show for example it's the so and I'm not 00:44:43.240 --> 00:44:50.079 saying that's the same thing that's not I'm just saying that it's fairly typical 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:53.480 for a sponsorship or advertising agreement to have some kind of 00:44:51.720 --> 00:44:58.800 confidentiality it's not the it's not the fact that there is one it's the 00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:02.119 details within no you're right you're 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:03.760 right I am 100% allowed to disclose that 00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:08.280 Squarespace is a sponsor of the show and in fact I feel quite strongly that 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:12.720 anyone who is sponsoring us anyone who is directly giving us money to bring our 00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:17.920 content to you guys you guys should know about it because you guys should be 00:45:15.640 --> 00:45:21.240 like good job Squarespace for recognizing that we like this content 00:45:19.680 --> 00:45:24.960 and we want to see more of it thank you very much for allowing lonus and his 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:29.319 team to keep making it I mean I personally think that sponsorships 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:33.400 support should be as public as possible and you guys are more than welcome to 00:45:30.520 --> 00:45:38.200 ask me at any time who our sponsors are and I will be happy to tell you yes this 00:45:35.520 --> 00:45:43.079 was paid for this wasn't paid for and these guys are sponsors or these guys 00:45:39.640 --> 00:45:44.520 are not sponsors that's all great um no 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:48.720 look at that Hotspot Shield just sent me an email Hotspot Shield happens to be a 00:45:46.200 --> 00:45:54.920 sponsor as well the issue here more than anything else is not disclosing that 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:59.200 Microsoft I mean even if you were to say even if they were to say something as 00:45:56.200 --> 00:46:01.880 simple as um Microsoft asked me to do 00:45:59.200 --> 00:46:08.480 this Xbox one gameplay video yeah so I want to take a moment to 00:46:05.319 --> 00:46:10.880 thank Microsoft and talk to you guys a 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:14.000 little bit about the Xbox One and show you this gameplay Fin and like like the 00:46:12.520 --> 00:46:17.800 fact that they said it has to be positive doesn't necessarily mean that 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:22.440 it's skewing the person's views person might have already had positive things 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:26.240 to say about it so they're not I don't that that part I yeah I don't on the 00:46:24.160 --> 00:46:30.599 other hand it might have and I think when you look at at the terms of this 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:34.960 campaign it seems to be designed to Target guys who otherwise might not 00:46:33.319 --> 00:46:40.599 necessarily have been talking about the Xbox one but with all of that said 00:46:38.040 --> 00:46:48.480 everyone who took the money knew the terms before they took the 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:50.800 money yep so if you have a problem with 00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:55.280 the way that any of this was implemented then take it up with the 00:46:52.520 --> 00:46:58.839 YouTuber I mean I don't agree with Microsoft's approach and I don't 00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:03.240 particularly care for machinima's way of doing business either let's make that 00:47:00.319 --> 00:47:07.760 abundantly clear but if you don't like what a YouTuber is taking money for your 00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:11.599 issue is with the YouTuber not necessarily with the sponsor you'll 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:16.920 notice we don't have an Xbox One video no we don't we have an Xbox one 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:21.400 it's over there in a corner collecting dust like it should be has it turned on 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:26.000 the image comparon hold on let's do 30 seconds of uh gameplay footage we can 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:30.000 show like the gameplay versus PC footage cuz all we said is it was sitting there 00:47:27.640 --> 00:47:33.480 we didn't say it was doing a bad job it's doing a quite good job of sitting 00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:36.160 there yeah it's it looks great it hasn't broken the 00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:43.480 connect yeah not broken Xbox one because 00:47:40.359 --> 00:47:45.160 we haven't turned it on oh love it I 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:49.720 guess is it's like it's like a what is it Syler no whatever apparently someone 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:54.200 from PC Master race subreddit got an email to promote the Xbox one I mean 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:58.000 Gorilla Marketing is not a new thing there's also someone in here telling us 00:47:56.040 --> 00:48:03.920 that we're in sponsored believe it or not we're not NVIDIA hasn't done any 00:48:00.160 --> 00:48:03.920 paid promotion with us in about a 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:11.960 year so there you go oh man um all right 00:48:10.520 --> 00:48:15.680 let's move on to our next topic I guess speak of NVIDIA sponsorship speaking of 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:19.319 oh what's going on AMD oh yeah let's talk about no let's do the NVIDIA topic 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:24.760 first okay yeah here we go all right so we've got an NVIDIA topic here for you 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:26.520 guys black is back this is just a rumor 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:31.359 but I hope there's well actually I don't know what I think about this rumor it might just be a totally stupid rumor it 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:35.280 was posted by brown ninja 97 on the Forum the original article is from video 00:48:35.319 --> 00:48:43.480 cards.com so there you go NVIDIA to launch GeForce GTX Titan Black Edition 00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:47.079 and GeForce GTX 790 the Titan Black Edition looks like a somewhat real 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:51.680 mockup that GTX 790 no does not look like a real thing 00:48:49.839 --> 00:48:55.559 at all looks like the Titan one with an MS paint black thing and then like some 00:48:53.680 --> 00:49:00.040 text over it and maybe sort of the correct font 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:07.280 um but basically the rumor is that the 790 would be a dual gk10 card which is 00:49:04.640 --> 00:49:11.240 got to be difficult kind of terrifying obviously it wouldn't have the same 00:49:09.200 --> 00:49:15.559 clock speeds or all the same functional units um and then the Titan Black 00:49:13.799 --> 00:49:21.040 Edition is rumored to be a fully unlocked because remember the original 00:49:17.319 --> 00:49:22.640 GTX Titan does not have all of the gk110 00:49:21.040 --> 00:49:27.359 functional units it actually is missing some Cuda cor smx's I guess they call 00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:31.559 them now um but we might see so we might see that 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:35.359 card come in with there's rumors about memory bus there's rumors about how much 00:49:33.640 --> 00:49:39.000 memory will be on them but we might get a replacement for Titan because remember 00:49:36.799 --> 00:49:43.640 Titan doesn't make any sense for a gamer anymore unless you're running like 4K 00:49:41.319 --> 00:49:48.760 surround every single time we say this and like someone got super pissed on I 00:49:46.160 --> 00:49:55.680 think it was 780 super candied on the 780 Ti video because I said uh Titans 00:49:52.680 --> 00:49:57.680 aren't really gaming cards anymore like 00:49:55.680 --> 00:50:00.920 super candy and I was like man if you bought bought it a long time ago and 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.280 you've enjoyed it this entire time that's totally fine I'm not saying 00:50:02.799 --> 00:50:10.839 that's a bad thing I'm saying like if you're looking into it now and you're strictly looking to buy a gaming card 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:15.359 Titan makes this much sense yeah unless you you need the extra frame buffer 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:20.160 otherwise GTX 780 Ti is better in every possible way and cheaper yeah um so so a 00:50:18.200 --> 00:50:24.880 Titan refresh because remember Titan is not valid for gaming but it's very 00:50:22.720 --> 00:50:28.640 important for Cuda developers or anyone who wants to use the double precision 00:50:32.200 --> 00:50:40.240 beanch ful unlocked yeah so I just don't I don't 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:49.079 know if I buy this cuz the rumor says launch date February 2014 to March 2014 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:51.040 but that's Maxwell time frame y y um I I 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:56.400 I find it very odd now now especially with the 790 with like the the crappy 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:59.000 paint overlay um but the the the Titan 00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:03.960 black Black Edition we've seen leaks of that colored cooler before yes we have 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:07.040 so it could have easily just been like oh we're going to turn it make it 00:51:05.160 --> 00:51:11.520 vertical put it in this line and then yay um so I'm not entirely sure about 00:51:09.720 --> 00:51:15.960 that it could be real and I wouldn't be surprised because when the 78 TI came 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:20.920 out we talked about like why isn't there one with six gigs yeah what the heck 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:25.160 maybe that's to Titan Black Edition yeah so I'm would not be surprised if that 00:51:23.319 --> 00:51:30.319 one's real I would be fairly surprised if the 790 is real cuz I mean well the 00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:35.680 thing about a 790 is if they did manage to keep power and thermals under control 00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:37.880 I mean remember too 780 Ti is still 00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:43.040 kicks out less heat and consumes less power than the competing AMD cards yeah 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:47.640 so if they did manage to cram two of them onto a PCB it would probably be 00:51:45.720 --> 00:51:52.400 significantly faster than even whatever Maxwell can cook up yeah like it's the 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:55.760 only reason why I'm like naying it a little bit is just cuz that's got to be 00:51:54.000 --> 00:52:01.200 hard and it's got to be expensive it's a big die expensive like it says like 999 00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:06.680 plus I expect that plus to be fairly large NVIDIA hasn't done that yet 00:52:04.160 --> 00:52:11.920 they've done 9.99 quite a few times in the past I believe 6800 Ultra was up 00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:18.079 near that price point let me just let me just double check I think 6800 Ultra was 00:52:14.319 --> 00:52:20.079 when um MSRP at launch hold on was when 00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:24.079 the the super expensive graphics card thing really 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:29.160 happened um and then they did it again with 8,800 ultra that was ,000 card but 00:52:27.319 --> 00:52:33.160 they've never gone above that as far as I remember I just the only reason why I 00:52:31.160 --> 00:52:39.079 say that is because with the Titan Black Edition coming right behind it like 00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:42.319 right behind it at 999 it seems weird to 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:44.960 release a 790 right after that at 999 00:52:42.319 --> 00:52:51.160 again well why not because they had 590 running at 999 at the same time at or uh 00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:56.480 rather 690 running at 999 at the same time as Titan where the 690 was the 00:52:53.880 --> 00:53:00.520 gaming card and the Titan was the compute and also because it had a much 00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:04.920 better GPU gaming card but if they had a 790 and a Titan black at 999 I don't see 00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:09.880 why that's an issue necessarily that would just be interesting and I think we'd have the same thing we had with uh 00:53:08.200 --> 00:53:14.799 early Titan adopters with the Titan black where they'd be like why why did 00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:21.200 this happen although SLI is kind of still I'm still not a huge fan of two 00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:27.400 chips what are you looking up sir I'm trying to find that pricing so FX 5950 00:53:24.520 --> 00:53:32.720 380 bucks 6,800 Ultra extreme was only 600 I was wrong so that was that was the 00:53:30.160 --> 00:53:36.760 top tier unobtainium card along with the x800 XT Platinum Edition both of which 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:41.960 were very difficult to find and were basically just vaporware uh so 8800 00:53:39.799 --> 00:53:46.200 Ultra might have been the first one then okay but at any rate it's all rumors 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:50.200 right now we don't know if any of that is true I actually have heard nothing 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:57.160 from NVIDIA about any of this stuff so there you go all right January 24th oh 00:53:53.880 --> 00:54:00.359 why am I even saying that AMD 00:53:57.160 --> 00:54:01.880 the title of the document I know all 00:54:00.359 --> 00:54:07.359 right so there's been some talk about cavar and some of the things that AMD 00:54:04.640 --> 00:54:11.200 could or could not have done and may or may not do oh I think I asked them for a 00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.799 Twitter Blitz let's go let's go back to the Twitter Blitz call don't forget the 00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:20.200 Twitter Blitz you guys actually didn't get that message from anyone but I 00:54:17.520 --> 00:54:23.920 figure that's what someone would say if they thought we forgot the Twitter blps 00:54:22.319 --> 00:54:27.680 is that the Ubuntu font on your Twitter handle in the lower third dude I have no 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:32.319 idea um isn't there a law in the US that says 00:54:29.640 --> 00:54:37.480 paid content has to be disclosed um if you receive the item for free so that 00:54:35.240 --> 00:54:41.400 there's so for the sake of full disclosure you have to be like yo I got 00:54:39.160 --> 00:54:44.839 this for free so take whatever I say that's positive about it with a grain of 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:49.720 salt in Canada that law does not exist and I'm Canadian although we kind of 00:54:47.040 --> 00:54:54.599 usually yeah say so anyways we're not and and we take it upon ourselves to say 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:57.359 negative things even if it was free opinions should not be bought the 00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:01.920 viewers are the victim not the I didn't say the YouTubers were the victim I said 00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:07.920 they were the culprit yeah I think you're misunderstanding what I 00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:10.920 said Terry says the issue is that there 00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:12.079 is such a Negative um stigma about the 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:16.079 Xbox one that it would create more negativity if they were open about this 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:19.480 but it creates even more if they get caught more yeah and you know what it's 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:22.880 funny that you mention the negativity around Xbox one because it's really a 00:55:21.200 --> 00:55:29.599 lot of it seems unfair it's not PS4 is not not 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:34.960 revolutionarily better than Xbox one yeah it's faster Hardware wise and it 00:55:31.520 --> 00:55:37.400 does have some advantages but Sony is 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:43.960 every bit as evil as Microsoft like let's not kid ourselves Sony is the king 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:48.240 of proprietary oh yeah although Microsoft's whole thing with the chat 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:55.039 cable on the Xbox One the chat cable yeah Xbox 360 compatible headsets need a 00:55:52.640 --> 00:55:58.680 proprietary adapter that you must buy from Microsoft in order to plug any 00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:02.720 other microphone into it it's pretty ridiculous um and then the fact that the 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:08.640 controller doesn't work on PC anyway Sony has a long history mini dis memory 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:10.799 stick um the the memory units that go 00:56:08.640 --> 00:56:15.359 into their professional grade camcorders at every turn they try to make things 00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:20.160 proprietary and horrible so you know let's not let's not Herald them as a 00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:25.160 white knight just yet so I do is this is this like the fastest car on the road 00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:27.680 argument though H like the PlayStation 00:56:25.160 --> 00:56:33.400 isn't necessarily a white night but the Xbox is a lot 00:56:30.520 --> 00:56:38.359 darker they're both speeding just one of them speeding a lot more diit says 00:56:36.359 --> 00:56:43.119 please do not understand underestimate the stupidity of the human race I try 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:48.480 Xbox is better than PC says Logan good luck with that um confidentiality oh no 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:54.200 oh why do I keep I don't have enough margin for error here I need more margin 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:57.760 for error uh if it were fully disclosed then absolutely no problem with it being 00:56:56.319 --> 00:57:02.119 hidden but that's terrible someone should be sued I don't think lawsuits 00:56:59.680 --> 00:57:04.880 are necessarily always the answer either uh okay let's go ahead and go down isn't 00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:09.280 there a law that says paid content has to be disclosed I don't think so I mean 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:13.480 it's not like we go to a movie theater and they tell you like hey we were paid 00:57:11.240 --> 00:57:16.839 to make this I think sometimes it's implied I don't think it always has to 00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:20.960 be explicitly said I think it doesn't H I think it has to be not 00:57:18.760 --> 00:57:27.280 hidden like it it was specifically hidden they wer placement 00:57:23.680 --> 00:57:30.160 hidden if the main character you if you 00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:32.480 a frosty mug of whatever ale someone's trying to sell and looks at the camera 00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:37.440 like this come on how many times have we seen that but if you like somehow ask 00:57:34.839 --> 00:57:40.000 them they wouldn't say no and like a lot of times you can actually figure out 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:46.559 exactly how much money was put into product so it comes down to that confidentiality Clause yeah yeah I think 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:48.160 that's the problem some $3 is pretty low 00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:53.839 for breaking FTC guidelines yeah potentially although $3 it's a good CPM 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:58.280 but it's like he said you're breaking FTC G like if we could generate 100,000 00:57:56.319 --> 00:58:01.920 views like a lot of game streamers can and pump out like five videos we're 00:58:00.319 --> 00:58:06.000 talking like 15 grand for like five videos if you can 00:58:04.520 --> 00:58:09.720 reach 100,000 views with them I mean that's that's this is bad for the 00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:13.920 consumer but doesn't happen all the time yes seems super Shady but from what I 00:58:12.319 --> 00:58:18.480 heard this is more of a Machinima bad than a Microsoft one and that's actually 00:58:16.359 --> 00:58:26.720 interesting and like I said the blame lies not not necessarily on one head 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:29.039 here why you know tweet you started um I 00:58:26.720 --> 00:58:34.079 uploaded the video that should have created a tweet in theory 00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:40.599 unchecked oh bollocks oh whoops we probably should 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:42.240 have tweeted that uh it's okay what do 00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:45.559 you use for your Pebble watch face I'm actually a total loser and I use one of 00:58:43.799 --> 00:58:48.400 the default ones I haven't played around with the pebble nearly as much as I 00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:53.240 probably should have and now that they're releasing their app store soon I've gotten kind of lazy about it so I'm 00:58:51.640 --> 00:58:56.960 just going to wait for that also I have a qualcom talk coming soon so that'll be 00:58:55.039 --> 00:59:00.720 an excuse to really into the pebble and really spend some time with it so I can 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:03.760 uh be properly comparative between the two of them Google Voice would be cool 00:59:02.240 --> 00:59:08.480 for online shopping or doing research papers that's what they want you to 00:59:06.319 --> 00:59:11.440 think I posted this in the Forum about a new cooling option now's not really a 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:18.440 time for us to be following links and reading stuff sorry 762 ASR 780 00:59:14.520 --> 00:59:22.599 personally I'd go 780 yeah we we're both 00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:24.359 more um more single card Guys these days 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:30.000 I believe candy is already trademarked although um did you run into any issues 00:59:27.680 --> 00:59:35.319 testing 780 tili on that rig I'm just curious no 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:38.359 okay um but like a little bit of tearing actually but but tearing is tearing 00:59:37.359 --> 00:59:43.000 that's probably just because your frame rate was so high yeah but no like no 00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:46.079 driver issues no game Crash nothing like that yeah cuz I mean our whole single 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:50.880 cards are better sort of based on neither of us having run an SLI setup in 00:59:47.839 --> 00:59:52.119 a couple of generations now but then 00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:56.520 I've built systems for people that requested SLI that have had problems 00:59:53.920 --> 01:00:00.880 later on there you go I'd move have you heard about the Intel 00:59:58.160 --> 01:00:04.680 nuck yes I've heard of the Intel nuck um and yeah it could be interesting 01:00:03.359 --> 01:00:08.520 with steam streaming in mind just like any small low power PC someone says did 01:00:06.839 --> 01:00:14.880 you forget to post that the show is up considering we have 3,600 viewers uh 01:00:11.640 --> 01:00:17.160 yeah no the the actual post did go up 01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:21.520 all right uh just come over to Oz and get great internet no I don't think so 01:00:20.319 --> 01:00:26.760 back into the we're back into the internet debate so there you go that was all we really got for the whole 01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:31.000 Microsoft marketing thing all right so let's talk about AMD's 01:00:29.160 --> 01:00:35.960 potential with cavari so cavari for those of you who don't know is AMD's New 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:43.280 Generation Apu so that is a CPU and a GPU fused into one and now with even 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:45.240 more benefit to that than before because 01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:50.440 um if I recall correctly Intel was actually the first one with Lindfield to 01:00:47.799 --> 01:00:54.880 ship a CPU and a GPU on the same core even though they weren't on the same die 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:59.680 there was actually a GPU uh die and then a CPU die right next to each other with 01:00:56.760 --> 01:01:03.000 a fast interconnect um so while AMD wasn't necessarily the first one to 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:07.799 deliver an APU to Market they are the ones calling it Apu and they have 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:13.280 finally Justified that with the highest technology Apu that we've ever seen and 01:01:10.160 --> 01:01:15.400 it Now features HSA so that's 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:20.640 heterogeneous system architecture which means that an APU has four CPU cores and 01:01:18.520 --> 01:01:24.839 up to eight GPU cores and AMD is basically going well we're going to call 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:28.359 that 12 cores now don't worry on the box they still specify what kind of cores 01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:34.960 the 12r but we're going to call it 12 cores because that processor is now 01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:38.640 capable of at the same time working on 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:40.680 up to 12 discrete threads even if 01:01:38.640 --> 01:01:45.760 they're all part of the same task because of its Huma technology the CPU 01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:51.480 course and the GPU course can both access the same memory at the same time 01:01:49.240 --> 01:01:56.720 so they can both use your system RAM and work on the same tasks and collaborate 01:01:54.279 --> 01:02:00.440 as opposed to the GPU course sitting and waiting for instructions from the CPU 01:01:58.839 --> 01:02:05.400 and then passing information back and forth over PCI Express this is extremely 01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:12.400 exciting and it also has huge implications for the value of higher-end 01:02:09.200 --> 01:02:15.799 memory subsystems in desktop PCS it's 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:19.440 been quite a while um actually it's been 01:02:15.799 --> 01:02:21.760 since the memory controller moved on die 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:26.920 since higher speed memory has really made much of a difference uh like within 01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:32.799 a single CPU generation so we've gone all the way from 01:02:28.680 --> 01:02:34.960 DDR to DDR 3 without see like whats like 01:02:32.799 --> 01:02:38.559 a generational leap in memory performance it's just kind of been 01:02:36.160 --> 01:02:44.559 incremental small improvements as processes as manufacturing processes 01:02:40.799 --> 01:02:46.559 have improved over time now I mean a 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:51.520 andd was according to this article so the original article is from um actually 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:58.799 there's a lot of Articles linked here so one from Anon uh there's one from 01:02:56.559 --> 01:03:01.559 hard hot hardware and then there's another one 01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:08.279 from wow that top one SL dot slash dot 01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:13.079 okay and then another one from slash dot okay so it was posted by Vitalis on the 01:03:10.760 --> 01:03:19.599 Forum and there's some there's some evidence suggesting that AMD considered 01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:22.319 gddr5 for cavar there's also so why 01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:29.359 would they do that well I pulled up uh this so this is a oh oh balls oh where' 01:03:26.520 --> 01:03:34.000 it go where did it go oh no where did that Corsair blog go 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:38.480 history man come on was it in Chrome yeah it 01:03:37.520 --> 01:03:44.559 might have been in Chrome make sure you don't activate your mic and ignore a 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:47.240 popup recent tabs come back to me come 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:52.359 back to me recent tabs recently closed oh no 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:57.880 a if you were candy ready for this we wouldn't be going through this right 01:03:54.319 --> 01:03:59.799 now I wonder if like how many people get 01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:04.160 that here we go all right I found it all right guys so Corsair has an 01:04:02.319 --> 01:04:06.599 interesting blog showing us the Improvement and perform oh right right 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:12.720 right so I was going to say we haven't seen much of a difference even with things like Intel um launching triple 01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:17.240 Channel and quad Channel memory controllers if you go back and look at 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:22.200 some of the old reviews back when LGA 1366 and 2011 launched of folks going 01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:26.880 okay well let's try single Channel dual Channel triple Channel quad Channel yeah 01:04:24.520 --> 01:04:32.960 not much of a difference because latency actually goes up as you add more 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:35.960 channels whereas the bandwidth also 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:37.559 increases but if those two performance 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:41.240 so higher latency is bad and higher bandwidth is good and a lot of the times 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:44.680 they were almost pretty much offsetting each other to the point where it really 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:48.520 didn't make much difference at all well now we could be looking at a different 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:53.799 situation so this is from Corsair's blog and uh let's see who wrote it this is by 01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:56.160 Dustin Dustin sclavos so he used to work 01:04:53.799 --> 01:05:00.720 for ntech um so he's doing some interesting testing here so this is 01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:04.680 memory bandwidth going from 1600 to 1866 01:05:00.720 --> 01:05:07.119 to 2133 to 2400 so you can see that the 01:05:04.680 --> 01:05:13.799 read and write performance which are the blue and the red lines so particularly 01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:18.160 the blue one faster reads um are increasing as we add more bandwidth even 01:05:15.680 --> 01:05:25.880 though latencies are also increasing and this is amounting to check this 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:27.880 out did you mean blue and green no no 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:32.359 right um these are amounting to check this out so these are different games 01:05:29.640 --> 01:05:40.720 BioShock Infinite 720p uh BioShock Infinite 1080p Grid 2 720p and Grid 2 01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:42.920 1080p an almost matching line when using 01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:48.920 the onboard Graphics wow so if you could potentially 01:05:46.680 --> 01:05:52.680 I don't know uh add and this is another thing that is rumored to to potentially 01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:57.400 be in there if you could add quad Channel memory support or you could have 01:05:54.880 --> 01:06:02.839 memory that runs at you know two times the frequency we could be looking at 01:05:59.279 --> 01:06:04.520 onboard Graphics that absolutely destroy 01:06:02.839 --> 01:06:08.200 anything anyone could do with integrated Graphics in the past and you might go 01:06:06.640 --> 01:06:11.359 okay well iess that's very interesting I guess onboard Graphics are kind of 01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:17.720 cool but think about this what about HSA 01:06:15.240 --> 01:06:22.559 then so let's say you add a discret graphics card to your system that's cool 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:26.119 okay you game on that but what if uh 01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:30.400 your Photoshop filters or your 01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:33.039 premere um or or or Premiere 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:37.400 or I'm drawing a complete blank after effects or whatever kind of prograde 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:41.760 visual effects program you're using could be accelerated by those GPU cores 01:06:39.720 --> 01:06:47.799 and you could increase the speed of them a couple times just by having faster 01:06:45.279 --> 01:06:53.000 memory wow and considering some of the demos that we saw at the cavar tech day 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:57.520 we could be looking at I mean already cavar in an optimized environment which 01:06:55.240 --> 01:07:02.319 is easier to code for than it has been in the past because it's all compliant 01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:04.279 with opencl 2.0 already they're leaving 01:07:02.319 --> 01:07:07.760 competitors in the dust we could be looking at a whole new world of 01:07:05.640 --> 01:07:12.240 performance with faster memory for the first time in a very long time outside 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:19.160 of the server space I think AMD's timing could not have been better because this 01:07:14.720 --> 01:07:22.480 time last year all doom and gloom will 01:07:19.160 --> 01:07:23.720 AMD exist in however long like look at 01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:29.559 their stock levels look at how much money they lost all this kind of stuff and now now it's it's Intel sitting 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:34.240 there with a few series of processors being released and people still liking 01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:38.240 2600 K and 2500 K more than some of the 01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:40.200 new ones um myself still running a 2600k 01:07:38.240 --> 01:07:45.319 and being completely fine and happy with it because I don't see that much of a 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:47.039 gain by moving up um comparing to AMD 01:07:45.319 --> 01:07:50.599 where it's like look at all this stuff we're doing right now and look at all this stuff we might be doing in the 01:07:49.279 --> 01:07:55.559 future and look at all this stuff we almost did and look at all these things we're planning for and what about these 01:07:53.839 --> 01:07:59.200 theoretical combinations of things that could be amazing and like I don't know I 01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:03.680 see AMD moving much more aggressively in the next little while yeah it's uh very 01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:08.760 very very exciting speaking of things that are 01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:11.599 exciting this isn't really you see why I 01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:16.799 hate this thing touch touch to click doesn't work see not enabled so why is 01:08:15.240 --> 01:08:21.640 it that palm detection is causing me to lose focus on 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:21.640 a 01:08:23.040 --> 01:08:28.480 window what is going on here 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:33.799 no one can see that happen trying to do a sponsor read here all right so thank 01:08:31.679 --> 01:08:37.239 you Squarespace for 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Bowl so 01:12:00.320 --> 01:12:05.159 they're going to have a Super Bowl commercial really I was like really they 01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:09.560 have millions and millions of dollars that's what I said apparently that's 01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:13.159 awesome so blah blah blah Squarespace oh hold on do they have like a leak of it 01:12:11.280 --> 01:12:18.080 can we watch it they Super Bowl commercials are pretty legit it's not 01:12:14.800 --> 01:12:19.560 leaked they they only have a teaser so 01:12:18.080 --> 01:12:23.360 they they asked me to show the teaser and I was like yeah sure yeah why not I 01:12:21.560 --> 01:12:27.400 mean Super Bowl ads are kind of kind of awesome I'm down with Super Bowl ads all 01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:30.080 right where's the teaser video even if I somehow miss the Super Bowl I usually 01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:36.360 just go back on YouTube and watch all the ads Super Bowl ads are usually 01:12:32.360 --> 01:12:38.400 pretty legit here it is okay there we go 01:12:36.360 --> 01:12:44.520 there's a giant baby there is definitely a giant baby in their 01:12:41.400 --> 01:12:47.159 teaser can you just be less of a huge 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:50.360 piece of crap thank you there we go all right it's funny because I was so glad 01:12:48.679 --> 01:12:55.360 to have my laptop back for this week all right here we go it's only about 15 01:12:52.040 --> 01:12:55.360 seconds long 01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:15.400 so presumably it's something to do with their whole quest of making the web not 01:13:13.679 --> 01:13:19.239 look like a bunch of geoc City's websites and like flashing banners and 01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:25.239 stuff like that so their whole thing is is beautiful design and tastefulness and 01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:26.719 that logo creator like two seconds in it 01:13:25.239 --> 01:13:32.199 looks pretty good yeah it's better than what I could do in paint paint.net 01:13:29.480 --> 01:13:35.800 paint.net on the other hand maybe I could do better uh but it would take 01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:40.080 more time yes what really you don't think I could 01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:45.440 do better than that in pain did you not see the Uproar for your little badge 01:13:43.120 --> 01:13:48.120 things I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do about that speaking 01:13:47.120 --> 01:13:56.120 of uproar apple is relaunching the iPhone 4 01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:59.120 at a very very appealing price of only 01:13:56.120 --> 01:14:01.800 $370 for super old technology seriously 01:13:59.120 --> 01:14:05.760 Apple what are you doing they probably don't know you can't answer that 01:14:03.679 --> 01:14:11.600 question I have no idea I mean if anyone at Apple's watching I mean Tim if you're 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:14.320 watching give me a call right here let 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:18.040 me know what's going on man like how how can you possibly expect people like I 01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:22.440 understand why the iPhone 4 is still legitimately expensive I do get it and 01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:28.920 what did it have something like four gigs of uh storage yeah 01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:35.639 eight is it eight 8 gab mobile models yeah yeah eight gig models uh one gz 01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:40.159 single core CPU 512 Megs RAM 5 megapixel rear camera it just it sounds so old 01:14:38.679 --> 01:14:45.520 like it doesn't seem that bad necessarily when you're using it then you read this specs on paper and you're 01:14:42.639 --> 01:14:49.320 just like like I understand why it's still expensive because the actual like 01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:54.280 tooling of it and the like the fit and finish of it is beautiful up there with 01:14:52.040 --> 01:14:59.880 almost any modern Android pretty much any modern andro phone L plastic yeah a 01:14:57.679 --> 01:15:04.960 lot of plastic junk on the Android side but to expect like to think that first 01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:13.800 of all to think that 5c was going to be your value model at $100 cheaper than a 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:15.120 5S come on really to think that iPhone 4 01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:24.080 I mean you're not even giving them the 4S to think that iPhone 4 is a value at 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:26.000 $370 is insane I don't imagine that this 01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:30.199 is going to be a big success for them I mean the problem that they have over 01:15:27.560 --> 01:15:34.719 there is that fewer carrier subsidies uh prevent people from buying expensive 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:40.880 phones well when you're considering that Motorola is talking about a $50 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:47.080 smartphone and that they already have the um the Moto G which is a 01:15:44.719 --> 01:15:50.080 $200 actually fairly compelling smartphone I've just started working on 01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:54.360 my review of it I know I'm a little bit late but sorry we we we're pretty late 01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:59.639 on a lot of our yeah we're pretty late on almost every phone so holding a Moto 01:15:57.639 --> 01:16:04.520 G and holding an iPhone 4 I can go yeah this is a beautiful device but this one 01:16:01.080 --> 01:16:07.400 is way more functional in every possible 01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:12.199 way I I just think this is ridiculous it's it's pretty dumb they just have no 01:16:09.679 --> 01:16:15.320 grasp on reality I think in that area we should do the next one someone's like 01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:19.840 lonus why are you so mad why am I going to get mad again oh no this isn't a mad 01:16:17.560 --> 01:16:23.600 thing no no I'm saying we should do it's a it's there's you put optional in 01:16:22.320 --> 01:16:28.719 Brackets this isy I'm saying we should do it calling all members of the LTT 01:16:25.639 --> 01:16:31.840 Forum World Cancer Day 2014 basically 01:16:28.719 --> 01:16:35.000 this is just a call to Arms to engage in 01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:37.320 distributed computing on this 01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:40.719 particular folding it's for a week of the world cancer day so it's not 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:44.080 necessarily just World cancer day it's the week that world Cancer Day lays on 01:16:42.360 --> 01:16:48.280 so it starts on Monday the 3rd of February and ends on Sunday the 9th give 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:54.440 your power to a good decent cause I know not everyone can run folding or yeah 01:16:51.880 --> 01:16:58.639 particularly folding 247 because it does consume a lot of power and that does 01:16:56.120 --> 01:17:01.760 cost money but maybe one week out of the year is not such a bad thing if we all 01:17:00.320 --> 01:17:07.080 kind of work together so there you go guys uh you can check out the thread it 01:17:03.440 --> 01:17:08.800 was post by xilent and then brackets X 01:17:07.080 --> 01:17:12.239 people need names that I can say on the show if they want me to say their names 01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:19.400 on the show um and that's in the folding at home boink and coin mining sub 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:22.280 Forum very cool and then yeah then we're 01:17:19.400 --> 01:17:26.120 moving on small town in Alberta gets gigabit Broadband I'll let you talk 01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:28.480 about this this is hilarious this brings up actually this is what I thought you 01:17:27.400 --> 01:17:34.480 were talking about what I thought you going to transition into when you did the move thing oh okay uh but yeah 01:17:33.280 --> 01:17:37.679 apparent there so there's a small town in Alberta and the community council got 01:17:36.719 --> 01:17:42.920 together okay hold on hold on I got another one would you guys move to the 01:17:40.360 --> 01:17:48.320 freaking Boondocks like the middle of nowhere Northern Alberta 8,500 people 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:52.960 entire population of city if the thing that he's about to talk about is a thing 01:17:50.840 --> 01:17:57.239 go so they did they there was some engineer apparently specific engineering 01:17:55.000 --> 01:18:01.080 businesses but uh also other businesses that were complaining that they were 01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:06.120 literally shipping drives because it was considerably faster like very 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:10.159 considerably faster to ship a drive than it was to transfer something over the 01:18:07.719 --> 01:18:13.480 Internet um and this this was like locally or outside they were just 01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:17.600 transferring drives all over the place they saying it was ridiculous they were 01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:20.880 going to move and like other towns all this kind of stuff so the council said 01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:23.880 no essentially we don't want you to have to move because of internet speeds 01:18:22.360 --> 01:18:29.520 because that's ridiculous so they're pulling in uh gigabit to the town now 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:33.600 it's currently in certain locations not everywhere you can currently pay for 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:38.080 about $57 to $90 a month and you can get 100 megabit and they are going to take 01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:43.040 that and say like yep same cost but it's gigabit now it's not quite as awesome as 01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:47.639 it sounds immediately because you will share with your node okay so if you get 01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:51.520 on gigabit you're sharing with your node but you're in like I I don't think I 01:18:50.480 --> 01:18:57.199 don't think your neighbor is going to use 900 megabits a second I like I yeah 01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:02.440 I'm not too worried about that but that's just something you do have to pay attention to uh the average Canadian 01:19:00.440 --> 01:19:08.560 internet download speed is about 6.6 megabytes per second for an average of 01:19:04.080 --> 01:19:10.600 $54 a month so that scaling it's pretty 01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:14.679 ridiculous that price to Performance ratio right there um they're they're 01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:18.000 saying that they they can do this because they don't have to worry about 01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:21.320 making massive profit margins all the time they just have to worry about 01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:25.679 making a little bit of money so that their Council can still exist obviously 01:19:24.040 --> 01:19:29.840 um so the they're actually able to do this at a reasonable level they they 01:19:27.400 --> 01:19:33.040 received a pretty sizable Grant um from the government too to actually do this 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:36.600 because of what their whole plan is they're trying to keep people there they're trying to keep businesses there 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:39.480 and all this kind of stuff so it makes sense and they're not gouging people so 01:19:38.040 --> 01:19:42.679 the government tries to help them the government actually tries to help a lot 01:19:41.639 --> 01:19:48.800 of companies that are laying infrastructure just a lot of those companies don't really care and still 01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.800 screw people over um and the something 01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:54.960 that brings me back to the you're sharing it with the people around you discussion um is that if you're a 01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:58.760 business and you want to dedicate gigabit per second line like dedicated 01:19:57.400 --> 01:20:05.120 going to be there gigabit per second line you'll have all that bandwidth all the time it's 5 grand okay so it's 01:20:05.120 --> 01:20:11.080 like but I think I think they have like one or two maybe businesses in mind when 01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:16.120 they have that there and they know they'll hit those to and that's maybe where they're making some of the money 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:20.800 back right um but yeah either way in again investing in infrastructure it 01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:24.800 just makes sense thumbs up yeah loving it all right uh demystifying Crystal 01:20:23.400 --> 01:20:29.159 there was something that I wanted to talk about not bricks Pro shoot I don't 01:20:28.040 --> 01:20:34.880 remember what it was okay do you want to do a demystifying Crystal Cove while you're at it uh I was thinking as we're 01:20:32.679 --> 01:20:38.360 getting fairly close and that video is up maybe we should jump to Candy Jam 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:41.800 real quick then maybe we can do that as like an ending sure all right so why 01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:47.600 have we been saying the word candy all stream for those of you who didn't watch 01:20:43.679 --> 01:20:49.400 the uh the pre-show so the candy Jam 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:53.480 which is awesome and like it's actually kind of hard to read because their 01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:57.040 website is ridiculous but I think that's kind of part of the joke 01:20:55.360 --> 01:21:02.440 um so I'm not going to harp on them too hard for that but what they say if you're having troubl reading it is 01:21:00.320 --> 01:21:07.080 because of because trademarking common words is ridiculous and because it gives 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:11.040 us an occasion to make another game Jam that's why this whole thing exists uh 01:21:09.080 --> 01:21:15.320 you have to make a game involving candies in some way consider using the 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:19.520 word candy several times also scroll memory Saga apple and Edge might give 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:25.280 bonus points I'm not entirely sure why I don't think I've necessarily researched the topic deeply enough maybe they're 01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:30.239 looking into um trademark those words as well it starts now you can go to it now 01:21:28.040 --> 01:21:36.239 it ends 3rd of February there's been 27 games submitted so far and you have an 01:21:32.120 --> 01:21:38.400 interesting contest kind of okay so I'm 01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:43.320 I'm putting up a $100 bounty to the first person who makes a game called 01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:47.840 candy ass candy eaters so the objective of the game has to be that there's like 01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:51.080 people and it can get more or less challenging like there can like think 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:54.760 about all the game elements that exist so you could have places where you're 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:57.719 supposed to throw the candy plac is where if you throw it it's negative 01:21:56.120 --> 01:22:01.199 points like if a zombie eats it or something then that's that's bad and 01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:06.040 that's negative points but the idea is that you throw candy at these people and 01:22:04.440 --> 01:22:10.360 they don't like getting hurt so if you miss their mouths directly then it's 01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:13.840 like somehow detrimental so that's what makes them candy ass cuz they're like 01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:18.080 they don't like getting hit by candy ah and maybe they're running away from the candy as you're trying to feed it to 01:22:16.639 --> 01:22:23.080 them or something to make it like challenging or something like that so so 01:22:20.440 --> 01:22:26.960 I I want that game to exist only to the the first one though 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:31.440 I'm not paying a bunch of these bounties I really hope someone makes it I don't really think they will but I really I 01:22:29.400 --> 01:22:35.239 think anyone will um and this whole thing is kind 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:38.840 of horrible because every single time something like this happens like with 01:22:36.320 --> 01:22:42.440 the copyright complaints and like the the guy the main dude backing like yeah 01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:45.920 we should have stronger copyright law pirated the background picture for his 01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:50.440 website and like this kind of stuff always seems to happen but King uh the 01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:55.719 guys behind the copyright of the word candy totally ripped the crap out of a 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:59.800 game called Scamper ghost back in the day so there's um pack aoid and Scamper 01:22:58.320 --> 01:23:04.639 ghost and as you go through here you'll notice the screenshots are incredibly 01:23:03.120 --> 01:23:10.600 the same um and what actually happened was 01:23:07.040 --> 01:23:13.880 they hired a company called where is it 01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:17.040 epic Shadow very specifically to copy 01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:20.080 Scamper ghost it was like go copy this 01:23:17.040 --> 01:23:22.159 game it was fairly straightforward um 01:23:20.080 --> 01:23:25.960 the Scamper ghost guys aren't mad at Epic Shadow because King was in their in 01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:30.520 their discussions with epic Shadow was saying that Scamper ghost had a signed 01:23:28.480 --> 01:23:32.880 contract deal with King and then broke out of it and there's a whole bunch of 01:23:31.639 --> 01:23:38.400 stuff going on and it was issues and they were like yeah just go copy that game because that'll be the one actually 01:23:35.360 --> 01:23:40.320 published blah blah blah and then epic 01:23:38.400 --> 01:23:47.000 Shadow contacted Scamper ghost at some point in time being like yo we thought 01:23:42.840 --> 01:23:48.520 you guys were the bad guys I don't know 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:52.639 yeah so Scamper ghost is not specifically mad at them um they're mad 01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:56.120 at King and they're more specifically mad at King actually because of the C Cy 01:23:54.679 --> 01:23:59.719 copyright thing right cuz they're trying to copyright the word or trademark the 01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:03.520 word candy sorry yeah trademark to be clear I mean I don't think we ever 01:24:01.280 --> 01:24:09.000 actually said that which is ridiculous yeah that's just candying ridiculous 01:24:06.280 --> 01:24:13.159 that's absolutely candying ridiculous so yeah I I think it's funny that these 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:16.679 guys are being super vocal now about the fact that King has done this instead of 01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:20.560 previously when it probably still would have gotten a lot of traction but they're doing it now because of a 01:24:19.320 --> 01:24:26.159 copyright that doesn't have something to do with them I think that's actually really cool so go play Scamper ghost 01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:29.960 because that's awesome well I think that's it I had 01:24:28.480 --> 01:24:34.239 something that I really wanted to talk about that wasn't on the dock and I kind 01:24:32.159 --> 01:24:37.159 of thought of it and then I forgot about it it wasn't it wasn't bricks Pro I 01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:41.800 don't know if I want to talk about that that much anymore was something else um 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:44.960 for the the demystifying Crystal Cove thing uh the video is out right now it 01:24:43.679 --> 01:24:48.480 has a lot of it I'm probably going to be doing a long form written right up at 01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:54.159 some point in time because there's a lot of stuff that didn't make it into the video 01:24:51.639 --> 01:24:59.960 um and there's there's actually a clip that was not put into the release video 01:24:58.280 --> 01:25:08.080 oh what that I oh um so oh I I say at one point in 01:25:05.280 --> 01:25:11.920 time like there are lenses a b and c and I will talk about those more later and 01:25:10.159 --> 01:25:15.639 that clip didn't end up making it in so it made it really awkward um I'm going 01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:21.119 to try and come up with some way to integrate that but we can't exactly pull 01:25:17.400 --> 01:25:22.360 it down and re-release it now no so um I 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:26.239 was thinking maybe I could upload it unlisted and then like people to it on 01:25:24.400 --> 01:25:30.880 the Forum or something so I'll probably do that so you guys can get that clip um 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:35.800 or if you come to the Afterparty I'll probably talk about Oculus even more um 01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:40.119 and take questions and stuff like that so we can talk about that there and there will be an Afterparty tonight I 01:25:38.719 --> 01:25:45.280 don't necessarily know if I'll be gaming but I'll be giving away games and talking about Oculus yay giving away 01:25:43.520 --> 01:25:50.880 games hooray all right well I think I give up 01:25:48.080 --> 01:25:56.400 on one last thing actually one very final last thing we have a unofficial 01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:58.400 Linus Tech dip start citizen group oh 01:25:56.400 --> 01:26:00.840 yes so if you are interested in Star Citizen lus and I are both signed up but 01:25:59.960 --> 01:26:06.280 it's unofficial because we're not leading it we're just going to kind of hang we posted it on Facebook so if 01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:12.679 anyone was curious what my reach is on Facebook I guess you've all seen it 01:26:08.639 --> 01:26:14.920 now um let me just have a look here star 01:26:12.679 --> 01:26:21.800 citiz in it's the one with no picture because someone nubbed out 01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:24.400 oops H oh yeah there it is so Linus Tech 01:26:21.800 --> 01:26:28.000 tips no speaking of would you move if you got faster internet yeah exactly no 01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:32.840 I'm pretty sure that's Facebook's problem oh um cuz they they have a lot 01:26:30.480 --> 01:26:37.239 of this on mechanical drives now oh really yeah I think it used to be that 01:26:34.480 --> 01:26:41.560 your um that your your your main your feed was uh in 01:26:39.360 --> 01:26:46.040 memory and now I think a lot of stuff particularly images are being pushed 01:26:43.080 --> 01:26:50.280 onto mechanical even so uh Star Citizen uh 01:26:47.719 --> 01:26:53.920 organization now with added poll so you can check out that thread on the Forum 01:26:52.119 --> 01:26:56.719 if you are interested in it and as far as I can can tell they're being pretty 01:26:55.159 --> 01:27:00.600 open to ideas about how it's going to be ran and all this kind of stuff so Post 01:26:58.320 --> 01:27:03.719 in there talk about it and it's away quite a ways from being released so 01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:08.800 we'll we'll get some stuff more hard it's unofficial to be clear guys yeah 01:27:06.480 --> 01:27:13.520 we're not running it yeah but I'm I joined it so did I 01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:18.800 yeah yeah I think that's probably about it yeah I give up on this all right 01:27:17.239 --> 01:27:23.000 thanks guys for watching The W show we'll see you again next week same bat 01:27:20.760 --> 01:27:26.560 Time same bat Channel and the archive should actually be up fair quickly so 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:31.080 I'll just throw it up without a table of contents and then um when he gets around 01:27:29.440 --> 01:27:35.400 to it at apparently like 4 in the morning for whatever reason I was done 01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:40.159 way before that if anyone wants to do a table of contents and then like fire it 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:43.840 over to him during the Afterparty that would be more than welcome that works 01:27:41.840 --> 01:27:47.679 too the one thing that I would ask is that you make sure to include an entry 01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:51.199 for the Squarespace sponsorship spot in case anyone wants to find that we do 01:27:49.679 --> 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