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where we uh talk about technology and oh whatever screw it if you guys are
watching this you probably know what we do at this point we've been doing this for like a year more than that more than
that quite a bit yeah one year anniversary it might be freakishly
closer to two years yeah I think it's kind a little late on this anyway we've
got a great show for you guys today we've got steam in home streaming valve
has finally started letting people try
the beta um there's mixed reports all over the Internet we're going to be
discussing that unfortunately we haven't tried it personally yet but that may
change over the weekend wink wink nud nudge more on that a little bit later
we've also got that South Korea is working on 5G Wireless connectivity um
and not just enabling it in handsets but actually developing the infrastructure
for it so more on that later I guess this is the teaser so it's all
that later although I'm not saying any that anyone is a I'm just saying
that the information will come later and there will be more of it what else we
got there's a candied attempt at trademarking the word candy only a few
people understand that um and NVIDIA the
black is back we'll talk about that more later on as well yeah what does the
black is back even mean
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jump into our first topic of the day alien wear's steam machine not
impossible to upgrade this made waves
earlier in the week when I believe the article that I saw was also on kataku
but it was said that alien wears steam machines so this is basically guys just
a p PC was going to be non upgradable
and I kind of looked at that and I went well how can you have a PC that's completely non- upgradable I mean you
should be able to upgrade RAM maybe
unless they soldered the PCB or unless it was like at a maximum capacity
already yeah okay which you could technically like I don't know unless it
was already maxed to the spec of the motherboard I mean you should be able to upgrade your drive even consoles even
the PlayStation allows you to upgrade the drive on it so I was kind of looking
at it going okay so it's not upgradeable um and anyway Alienware has come out and
they have clarified it's not completely impossible to upgrade we just don't
really recommend it it is smaller and upgrading the internal components will
not be as easy as compared to other
platforms but we will not prevent a customer from upgrading is what their
general manager Frank Azor told Euro gamer so so I guarantee someone will do
it at least just to prove that they can but that person would have to buy an
alien wear steam machine in the first place place that's a good point can you
think of a good reason to buy a steam machine I've I've I talked about this in
a few I think at least two I'm not sure exactly how many of my videos at CES
where I would cover something at a booth and I would be like this would really be cool to put in your own built by
yourself steam machine because you don't need to go buy one I mean is this the is
this the whole console versus PC conversation all over again my my my
favorite thing about it too is that everyone's like oh but this machines not
competing with consoles oh come on that's not what it's supposed to do we
all love each other like yeah no no it's
there for a point no you C don't I
mean um it's it's it's interesting but like I what about people who buy
pre-built PCS and prefer to just have something delivered to them ready to go
I mean installing Steam OS might get easier later but right now it's a bit of
a pain in the ass candy rather um so
could you recommend to anyone with a straight face to buy a steam machine uh
yeah like a pre-built one like an alien if there was like literally no one to
build it for them but I don't know anywhere that there is no one to build
it for you because places like ncx and I know of a lot of other small computer
stores as well we just charge you like 50 bucks and then build it for you I
mean it might be okay as long I mean motherboard and power supply I guess are
going to be the really challenging ones so while you might be able to squeeze a
small RAM upgrade or a drive upgrade or even a an intergenerational CPU upgrade
assuming assuming thermals are okay you're not going to be upgrading it in
any significant way anyway Alienware just suggests you grab an Alienware X51
if you ever if you ever actually think you might try to change anything or you
could build your own or you could just build your own which is yeah probably
the better way to go in my opinion which brings us to our next steam machine
topic man I'm so excited for Steam OS being not beta
anymore although I would settle for beta
at this point if they were willing to give me the inhome streaming beta are
you properly set up am I properly set up yeah uh I could be very easily my steam
machine is downstairs all I'd have to I mean um like is your Steam account yes
on in the group and stuff yeah yeah so guys um why don't we just do a quick run
through of what in home streaming is so it's steam's counter to NVIDIA's gam
stream technology or or really any other
local streaming technology except much more open and much more flexible I mean
from the very start it's running in Linux so it's inherently open and
probably going to be quite you know hackable and play with and then next up
valve is coming right out and saying look we want you to run the streaming
service on anything that can possibly handle it or anything at least that can
run Steam so that means if you wanted to stream from your desktop PC down to a
little tiny like Gigabyte bricks on your
TV you could do that if you wanted to stream from your desktop PC to your
laptop you could do that if you wanted to stream from your laptop to uh a
tablet with like a controller plugged into it or a Bluetooth controller on it
you could do that the idea is anything that can run Steam can wirelessly beam a
game or wirelessly receive a game and then send the controls back the other
way so theyve released it as a beta and
the verdicts are kind of rolling in although it's very much unfinished at
this point and it looks like unless you're running gigabit Ethernet you're
probably not going to have a terrific experience if you're trying to game at
1080p 60 FPS but you can play around
with the settings somewhat so you can change to 30 FPS you can change to 720p
you can even go down to 720p 30 FPS if you're having trouble but from the
reports I'm seeing as long as you're running a strong strong dual band so
that is 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi-Fi connection or you have gigabit Ethernet
then you're probably going to be able to
1080p at least will work on the wired
connection drop down from all of that to wire
connection well it's just a reality I mean even with NVIDIA Shield so that's
70 70p UH 60 frames per second 70p 720p
yeah it's like we've gone back to Commodore 64 resolutions because LOL um
so that's 720p 60 frames per second and
unless you're within a very reasonable range of your access point it's not a
great experience I mean NVIDIA's done a fantastic job of dynamically altering
the image quality according to what it can handle so I don't know how much
you've played with it I haven't you took both of them right that is what I did I
actually haven't touched one other than at the NCIX Lan Okay cool so basically
what it does is it just reduces color depth whenever it can't handle um
whenever it can't handle the data rate that it needs so as you move around the house you might have you know really
great color depth and no blockiness and then if you move further away from your
access point it might become blocky and and look less clean but but it should
still be low latency in theory I mean it's not always perfect so I don't know
how well valves Works in this regard cuz I haven't actually tried it yet but
there's good news NC Keys has given us
access to his Steam account he got a B everyone at NC got
one Wheels got an invite Keys got an invite Jack got an invite neither of
us got beta access so I'm going to try
it out I'm going to play around with it I'm going to be using uh I'll run I'll
run a proper gigabit cable down to my TV
and then I'll try it with power line cuz I have kind of a Cheesy power
adapter down there that isn't very good I'll see if that works then I'll try
Wireless so I'll have to take those ubiquity access points home over the
weekend but I'm really excited to play around with this uh guys that are
interested in jumping on the beta it's not the like Steam account beta optin
that's for other stuff this is you have to go find the inhome streaming group
and join the group um so it's it's not going to it's not your auto opt-in that
you might have set on your account settings it's actually more than that
which some people did not realize ah so stoked about this I mean being able to
sit in bed and you know fire up the old
laptop and play desktop grade games with
a controller like well this brings back the onboard Graphics yeah yeah this
brings back the uh I'm excited for like next Generation thing but not
necessarily for valve streaming I want faster internal home networks right so
that we can actually support all this stuff a lot better because I found especially Wireless has been a big issue
in this term I would love for you guys to tell us how important this is to you
tell us how excited you'd be about this but what do you think of trying to get
our hands on a 4K display and running that on our 10 gig
Network here cuz we here in the office we have a 10 gabit internal Network
we're using direct attach copper with SFP plus modules that are built right
into them we have a 10 gig switch and we have a few 10 gig I have still another
adapter to spare that we could throw into the steam
machine and get that fired up well I was thinking we should do like a big Roundup
so we can just add that as the like extreme ridiculous level of the Roundup
because we should have like a netbook and a bricks and a gaming laptop and a
medium desktop and a big desktop and like a 4K setup that sounds like way
more work well we can exclude some of those but like what I mean is like have
a range of stuff and show that it's probably mainly Network that actually
matters right right right I mean one other thing I was even thinking about
already was like okay MacBook Air has Thunderbolt remember that magma external
Thunderbolt PCI Express enclosure you throw a 10 gbit adapter in there all of
a sudden you've got 10 gigabit to 10 gbit to 10 gbit you've got a full 10
gbit link between a gaming desktop and a
Mac which can run
Steam yeah so when once I actually are
are you trying to like justify the purchase of a of a Macbook or like
what's what's the what's the point does Debian support
Thunderbolt uh I would don't know but I don't know
why it wouldn't yeah cuz you could then you could throw Steam OS on the MacBook
you could get your beta go that's that's actually interesting I wonder if they do
so yeah anyway guys uh we'd love to hear
people are talking about Bieber guys we don't talk about Justin Bieber on this
show that's just not that's just not a thing that we talk about I'm sorry I
wish we could because he's just so dreamy looks like it
does so then we could be looking at pretty much the most lightweight
possible device running the most balling
possible Graphics I mean I might not even you did I show you the thing in
Gigabyte Suite they had um they had an
external PCI Express like graphics card enclosure okay they actually had this
thing running using external SAS cables
and they're like yeah we're kind of working on the interface
still they just had they had a computer they had a computer that had like holes
drilled in it and like SAS cables running out of it to to like this
external enclosure they're like yeah we're oh it was working that's sick it
was running so they're like yeah we're working on the interface we might use
like Thunderbolt or usb3 or something I'm like yeah you better do that cuz
this is this is not a this is not a good idea um hey maybe people could actually
use the water cooling holes in their computers if they like didn't want to put a graphics card in their desktop for
whatever reason SAS PCI Express card to
no it was a propri so proprietary interface card to SAS cables to external
box that's like ridiculous just why but it would be cool I don't know why but it
would still be cool um so anyway this
might have gotten to the point where I just don't care about that anymore
because if I could just have one device in my house that can stream to anything
in my house then why would I want a dedicated hard line between that
graphics card and the other thing so before that thing came out it now
doesn't really matter yeah and the stupid thing about it is everyone's been
teasing these external graphics card enclosures for so long and now we've
gotten to the point where it might just not matter I mean this is my problem
with the new Mac Pro it relies on this
nonswitchable non networked interface it
relies on a point-to-point connection between device device a and device B to
me that is not the future that is not the connected home that is not the
connected life that's not the internet of things that's not what it's about
it's about everything being able to access the same pooled resources you
know cloud computing is an example of this on a much broader scale but the
personal cloud is what really excites me so having that machine in your house
that lives in the closet and now can be full of hard drives for your own
personal cloud storage and then it can be full of
graphics cards so you can beam Graphics horsepower to yourself you look at this
internet connectivity that the Koreans are working on what is it 300 megabit
per second the 5G stuff yeah no it's Gigabyte sorry what how much Gigabyte I
must have been looking at the wrong thing one Gigabyte per second yeah they want you to be able to download a movie
in a second and they want you to be able to access the internet on a 500 mph
bullet train okay so there you go 1 gab per second connectivity if they can get
the latencies down enough and remember guys
we sort of you know freak out about
input lag and about latency a lot but
consider this for a moment I can ping
NVIDIA's gam stream servers at I think it was about 35 milliseconds and that's
from hundreds of kilometers away I'm I'm well north of Santa Clara okay on a mo
on a on a wireless connection you might be able to achieve let's say in the
future a best case scenario if you could achieve 30 to 50 milliseconds of
ping that might be doable a TV will often have an excess of
30 to 50 milliseconds of input leg consider that if you can game on a TV if
you could have a nice low latency display on a device like a shield or a
phone and pretty much the only delay
left was that network connection you
could actually have and if you had a faster home internet so we've got fiber
here now so even you don't need a ton of bandwidth you just need a consistent
connection so between fiber and having a consistent wireless connection you could
actually be looking at beaming your cloud storage your cloud computing to
yourself pretty much wherever you want that is the future not an octopus of you
know Thunderbolt cables coming out of one box however beautiful and small and
actually quiet I finally had a chance to see a new Mac Pro in person and it is
phenomenally quiet I got to give them that anyway I don't think so the the uh
5G technology that they're showing off can beam Gigabyte per second over more
than Gigabyte per second over a distance of two kilometers unbelievable here why
don't we why don't we launch into that just because I think I'm pretty much done with steam in home streaming and
you know Candy you valve for not including us in that super unhappy but
at least I get to try it yeah that's a good point this won't be ready for
commercial for until about 2020 and they're going to do like testing we're
not talking about inh home streaming we're talking about which you guys haven't seen yet South Korean 5G I
wasn't sure you were up yet or not umth Korean 5G are you are you candy um which
will be ready for testing like I said in 2017 and ready for commercial service in
20120 hopefully this is a bid for Korea to try and get more on the network
infrastructure side of things they've been really really big
obviously hold on hold on just a sec sorry guys sorry guys I got this i
got this yeah yeah was that running the whole
time no no no no no I I've been monitoring okay cool don't worry it's
all good okay okay sorry talk about this so 1.5 billion bucks on movie in a
second service yeah and this second service was tested a lot by Samsung and
Samsung was able to beam faster than like I already said faster than Gigabyte
per second for two kilometers this would enable people to access it on bullet
trains going faster than 500 km an hour
which is ridiculous I might have said 500 Miles previously it's 310 mph 500 km
an hour um that's absurd right now the cap is 300 um km an hour yeah so to put
this in perspective guys one Gigabyte per second after you know overhead the
quick and dirty conversion is 10x if you want to get to gigabit so this is
effectively as fast as a Thunderbolt connection and obviously not every
individual user is going to get that kind of uh of data throughput all the
time and much like that test they were doing in London this is a this is a
proof of concept right now by the time it gets rolled out to mass Market we we
could be looking at much lower cost infrastructure and sort of the that 820
rule how can we spend 20% as much as we did on that research project and Achieve
80% of those results or even 60% of those results but either way if I could
get anywhere near that if I could get
100 megabytes per second that would be gigabit speeds on something like this
now we're talking that's still insane like absolutely insane and the whole
idea of this is Korea's saying that with 2G 3G and 4G they saw a national boost
of just like everything like National growth was just better with those
infrastructures so the idea with 5G is we're going to do that again and the
idea is that they're going to be producing Network infrastructure so right now they're really big in the
mobile handheld game but they want to be really big in the infrastructure that
goes behind pushing data to those they expect to see 20% % of that uh Telecom
infrastructure by 2020 and I think they're running at about like 4.4% now
so it's actually a huge increase and given how quickly mobile is growing that
that 20% could be a lot more than five times or four times what they're doing
now yeah exactly yeah that's pretty
crazy Samsung was able to do it by harnessing millimeter wave bands which
were apparently a huge issue tell me something and I'd love to hear you know
what let's do a Twitter Blitz we don't do those enough these days that's true
Twitter Blitz guys would you consider
moving like let's let's use South Korea as an example okay would you consider
packing your packing your candy and moving across the globe for better it
infrastructure if you were living in somewhere with like basically craptastic
internet that you're paying way too much for would you go okay I'm willing to do
what so many immigrants have done the other way around let's let's I'm going
to talk to the North Americans out there you know the people who just drop
everything and come to this you know the the new world so to speak to to make
their Fortune would you be willing to do the opposite would you be willing to
move to South Korea to get much much
better internet and television service
and um you know mobile broadband and you
know access to better handsets and all that kind of stuff are you a technology
enabled lifestyle enough person that that would matter enough to you to move
would love to hear from you guys on this how about you personally yes but I think
ours is at least good enough that I'm not there right
now what if okay because Define good enough it's good enough for what we do
with it yeah it's good enough for email it's good enough for streaming
lowquality video um but nothing you know
4K or anything obviously what if by
moving to okay here so stay with me what if 2020 rolls around okay
Oculus is wirel hold on you know you're
going to win with this hold on hold on okay so Oculus is Wireless by this time
dirty okay uh valve has released Steam
for Android okay okay and you could
literally be sitting on a train playing
a game on a bullet train traveling at 500 kmet an hour maybe faster than that
by then maybe faster than that by then playing a game that's running on your
desktop at home with full 4K Graphics
would you move for that experience if back here in North America we're still
on 4G and we're like figuring out how to play like Netflix on our phones still
and dealing with uh you know bandwidth caps I could see that I could actually
see that maybe not for the bullet train thing but there's a billion in one other examples that could work like and the
bullet train one's not a bad example it's just yeah um that yeah that would
be pretty cool because there's stuff like people were talking about the the
valve Hollow deck mhm like if that kind
by 2020 like they're talking this kind of stuff should be consumer not
necessarily the Hol deck but like valve is saying that uh that VR should be
consumer ready and good like actually really good and that's valve saying it
should be good um in the next like two years it's not 2020 it should be
freaking epic by 2020 so so it's it's
it's the the possibilities all the possibilities so yes probably cuz VR I'm
kind of I'm kind of kind of really liking the whole VR thing all right
let's go ahead and see what the folks on Twitter think um Johan says no because
porn is censored in Korea that's actually kind of a valid Hotspot Shield
yeah actually speaking of uh show sponsors Hotspot Shield is not our
sponsor today but you used Hotspot Shield in Korea right yep uh we could
not access any Google services for some reason uh in our hotel lobby and we
didn't have Wi-Fi we didn't have uh mobile connections at the time so we
only had Wi-Fi possibilities we had to sit in the hotel lobby and somehow
communicate with each other so hotot Shield Google services yay yeah anyway
there you go had a plan to move to oh
someone was apparently already thinking about it but we don't know who it is anymore where did it
go oh my goodness what happened there I don't know oh okay here we go here we go
uh emo polar bear had a plan to move to Sweden for better it and education oh
that's yeah that's my friend I know him D dartel figures nope nope uh I would
absolutely move to South Korea for phenomenally better internet it's funny
because when you talk about country growth and how you can stimulate it
better infrastructure this is I mean you look at the you look at the candy
backwards way we're doing it here in Canada where they build a bridge and
then put a toll on it huge toll an
enormous toll one that can that one that costs even if you're a regular user and
you buy a pass about $7 a day to get to and from work I mean when you factor in
that minimum wage here is $10 and the income tax on a minimum wage earner
could be anywhere from after sales taxes for things like food could be as much as
like 30% we're talking about an hour of
your day an eighth of your day if you're a full-time laborer just across a bridge
that doesn't even factor in gas and whatever else if you're expected to
drive a car which if you're in that municipality you pretty much have to
because the public transit here is terrible I've changed how I get over
there I I know I Go in different routes cuz it's so expensive
people were like oh it'll save on gas you don't weigh in traffic that much
that's the that's that's the candy backwards way of doing things you give
people things that they need I mean the Romans had this figured out you build
roads and the the economic advantages will come no we're like well no we have
to you have to pay us for the road after we build it anyway so South Korea is
investing they are making their country a better place to live and we're seeing
it in the responses already yeah I would I would move to I would move to a
country that offer better infrastructure and better Services anyway so slow bro figures yes
um Peter figures I would if I had the money and candy is trademark that
copyright yeah no they're trying I wouldn't move but I would keep it in
mind if I was ever on a trip near there I would totally move from America says
Mitch nope in Ohio I got what I need in
Singapore there's already 1 Gigabyte per second plans not for uh not for mobile
that's not what we're talking about uh yep yes yes
no unless they're willing to lower prices change piracy laws and have a
government like ours # democracy um
lower prices on what I I don't and I
don't know what their government system is because I don't I don't no I wouldn't
but I would appreciate if the Canadian isps would get their candy together yeah
gotcha if I could still speak English then yes that's an interest but this is
like it doesn't necessarily have to be Korea as well I think I think the
question is more would you move I did specifically say Korea though yeah okay
I sure I'm sure would Can't Get Enough even willing to pay more they just won't
give it up uh not unless us became more
terrible okay that's from David I would move from Germany to Korea for
internet wow look at that no doubt I would jump on the next
plane this is a lot of people saying yes it's actually a little bit more people
saying yes than I expected this is a lot more than I was expecting chance asks if
I've learned about if I've heard about Limelight pie and asks to talk about it
we were actually discussing that earlier this week um it's not one of our topics
for the show today specifically but we might as well talk about a little bit um
the last time I tried Limelight was over a month ago so I don't know if what I'm
saying is valid anymore but it's a terrible experience this was using an
NVIDIA shield and then I also tried it on an HTC1 which has a qualcom processor
so it should support the h264 hardware decoding that is required for the best
possible experience and it just wasn't very good it was extremely laggy
compared to uh Nidia gam stream and I'd
be willing to give it another shot in the next little bit here but um
basically what chance is asking about is sort of a movement right now to use
Limelight which is could be used for game streaming and and already kind of
works on a Raspberry Pi to have a very
very low power very small very efficient game streaming box for TV really cool
because if it did work really well I don't know I haven't tried it at all and
he Tri it a while ago incredibly cheap
yeah you could basically strap a Raspberry Pi to the back of every single
display you own and have all your gaming horsepower right there and I think that
is the future m i mean oh man okay you already have a wireless Bluetooth
speaker in your shower yep if you could have a wireless waterproof game
controller in your shower you could have like a tablet dock you could literally
game in the shower I'd be down I already dance and sing so so you might as well
game yeah I mean waterproof Oculus okay now we're probably going i' I'd probably
still do that probably going a little bit just do like Mario under under sea
levels oh my
God what the cand is wrong with you
nothing I like my candy Oculus all right
uh let's move on to our next topic I think speech recognition hack
potentially turns Chrome into a an
advanced bugging device this was posted on the Forum by fushi and the original
article is by ARS Technica so I think I think you had done a little bit more
looking into this than I had so it's not like if you just skim it real quick it's
not quite as bad as it first looks because what happens is you go you have
to go to a website and tell that website that you can that it can use your mic
the problem is it's not disabling it when you tell it to so you you tell it
to disable your mic you go to a different website that website then has to have a popup that you have to not
close and then it can record what you're saying because that pop-ups there and
can record it but like the amount of times that that series of events will
properly happen is I don't think very high although it is still a serious
problem I'm not saying it's not a serious problem and I can't believe they haven't fixed it as they've known for
four months which is kind of crazy they say it's not evil but it could very
easily be used for something bad and
someone other than the person that found it might find a way to run this say
without a pop up the second you remove the pop up or pop under um it's I I
think becomes a much bigger deal yeah because the the second the second there
isn't that thing that everyone has trained themselves to automatically close
immediately um is is like way more serious because
there there's going to be a lot more websites where their voice activated
Google Now if you go to Google's homepage um has their voice activation
but not there maybe on Chrome um has
their yeah I guess it would be Chrome has their voice activation button so
people that are searching Google Google based on voice that's now a thing and
then if it wasn't to popup it would be a lot easier for that to happen there we go yeah here it is guys in case you
haven't seen it yet so the voice activation button just on the right side
of the search bar so if he presses that and tell me about the privacy issues
associated with your voice record oh I have to click allow so there you go you
have to click allow y tell me about the privacy issues that this voice
activation is going to
cause oh it was doing so well up till
then it was all right so there's something about Google Glass something
about Xbox one anyway that's not really the point of our conversation right now
so so I think it's slightly sensationalized as I think a lot of
people freaked out immediately but I really don't think very many people are
going to run up into this um as people automatically close popups and I don't
think that many people are using not everyone automatically closes pop-ups I
mean I think that sometimes you're guilty of this and I think sometimes we
all are of assuming a level of technical
competence that other people don't have but it's not that's my thing it's not
technical competence it's people being annoyed pop unders are completely
different story and what she's talking about in the video is a pop under
because you might not notice it and especially with newer for years my mom
refused to click the x button in the top
right I've never met someone like that in all my like Tex support years she
insisted on clicking the little line because she was used to I don't know
when Windows 3.1 or something where and
and like even in 3.1 you weren't supposed to do that like everything
would just be like piled up at the bottom there are people that
exist that do not close popups but then
how many of them are going to have a setup that has a mic where they can use
voice activation for search with a laptop any one of them because that's
what I just did on my laptop all I had to do was click allow once have you ever
done that outside of that environment which environment the one we just had on
the show no yeah but that's not that's not the
point like someone like you could disguise I mean okay you look at scams
that you and I kind of laugh at your viruses blah blah blah blah click yes
now that is what we're talking about here yeah that's very true and like it
it will happen that's why I'm say I just don't think it'll happen as much and
because there's going to be such in my opinion a small demographic that you can
Target with this I don't think there's going to be a crazy amount of we sites
out there pushing for this because when you're making a virus or something you're looking I think you underestimate
the market of dumb candies that are out
there um yeah I know but like that's
that's the whole thing where people were saying like oh there's no viruses on Max it's because the market was much smaller
there's more viruses on Windows not because Mac was harder to write viruses
for but because there was such a larger user base so your target think because
there are so few people with laptops with microphones no so few people that
are going to actually do this like like in in in the example in the video she
goes to a website where you can make a to-do list with your voice yes how many
people are going to do that not very many like how many how many times is
someone going to go to a website okay how about this what if you created a
popup that made someone go to a website
where it convinced them that their Bank needed a voice clip from them for
security that's actually not too bad
that's what I'm trying to say but then how are you pushing that popup some other website like no no but really like
consider the consider the Nigerian prce scam okay oh I knew this was going to
come up lose people fall for that that
it still exists and that they're still doing it enough people actually send
money to someone never mind just record a voice clip which is seemingly
completely innocuous this is this is where I lose the argument I knew the
Nigerian prince was going to come out as the Nigerian prince is like is like if
we had a card game okay the lonus Media
Group card game would have the n Prince card and that would be the trump
card all right you play the Nigerian prince and it's all over yep yep it's
done it's over I lose I did I the whole time we were talking I was like it's
going to come out at some point and then I'm
done totally screwed yeah yeah so they
need to fix that they do I can't believe it hasn't like even despite what I was
arguing with um they've known for four months I can't believe it hasn't been
fixed because like no matter how small of an issue I might think it is it's
still an issue yeah and it still should have been fixed and they're like oh it's
not evil but it can very easily be used for evil they even have things where it
can it can start up the recording based if it hears certain words so if you say
like NSA or Syria it'll start recording um hashtag killed your wife it could
probably start recording it could start recording that um and and it can it can
like manipulate that text so it can it can take that text and save it somewhere
specifically be easily because it shows in the video she says NSA in Syria and
it like bolds it makes it big formats a
little bit makes it red meaning that you could pull those out easily with a
different program and then save them somewhere right speaking of privacy concerns
Microsoft offers overseas data storage in response to NSA concerns this is
posted by hdz X on the Forum and the original article is from The Verge this
to me is I okay like everyone else is probably talking about the implications
of the overseas data storage and that
may or may not actually affect the nsa's ability to steal the data I mean it
would probably cause more of a fuss with the local government of wherever the
data storage is um but it seems like
they haven't cared about that in the past so I don't know how much that'll
help but to me this is more of a
potential long-term extremely dangerous path that the US is
headed down yep I I mean right now one
of you look to you look to the the huge
us-based corporations that are are driving
Revenue into the country the microsofts and Googles and apples of the world if
you candy those guys off enough why wouldn't they just leave and
this could be a thickly veiled attempt
to slowly move infrastructure out so you can move out so all of a sudden
Microsoft has been forced not even necessarily because they want to but
they have been forced to move
their resources out of the country not only that but remember the whole like
made in the USA and I mean I'm talking North America in general you know um uh
Apple's push new Mac Pro assembled in the USA you know that being a selling
point all of a sudden the US government
has created so much negativity around this data security and
privacy issue that now it is a selling point that they've outsourced it there's
there's actually there's a there was mainly a while ago uh not really now as
far as I can tell a huge phobia boat made in China well there always is but
um because of security issues what if they bugged the chip or what if they did
whatever right so so people were worried about that a lot and I see less people
worried about that now and now people are worried about that in America yeah
which just like how did you screw that up so hard well actually we know exactly
how they screwed that up so hard so that's that's extremely that's
extremely troubling to me how they could have let this get so far out of hand so
there there's there's a few things that people are bringing up which you already dismissed some of them but um like like
there's the thing brought up a while ago how the NSA had actually penetrated into
Microsoft Yahoo and Google and all all like a ton of different guys internal
networks so like does this even help
maybe not they probably still in there I don't know but either way Microsoft is
moving out and like you said the biggest thing probably is the fact that they are
moving infrastructure out and they could potentially move they would have already
needed data centers overseas but now
they have an excuse to move more of it yeah more exactly interesting more
Microsoft news yeah that's not all that's not all positive for Microsoft
this week there is a big hubub around uh
Microsoft paying YouTubers for mentions
so let's go ahead and fire that up over here this is posted on the form by devil
Z and uh dude you really got to flesh
things out a little a little bit more the original article is from RS Technica
so stealth marketing Microsoft paying YouTubers for Xbox One mentions so
Microsoft was involved Machinima the multi Channel network was involved and
I'd like to start by saying that we have nothing to do with Machinima and just
because some YouTubers are partnered with Machinima doesn't necessarily mean they're bad people it just means they
might have gotten suckered a little bit machinima's reputation among the
YouTuber Community is quite negative they've done some pretty shady stuff
over over the years uh including things like uh Perpetual contracts with
YouTubers which are illegal and then Perpetual contracts with underage
YouTubers which is illegal too so
they're both illegal and then pressuring these people and making them feel like
they can't leave and they can't get out like Machinima has not always been the
most um straight edge company
necessarily but with that said um you
know what okay you know what here I'll let you explain what was going going on
and then I'll I'll weigh in with my Spiel I'd love to hear what you guys
think on Twitter about this as well lineus tech on Twitter explain what you
was going on as in like how they were doing it or why yeah just talk about what happened so there's they they
proposed a $3 CPM so you'd get three extra dollars per thousand views that
you got and there was just a lot by the way it's it adds up there was some
prerequisites though you had to be a mission and a partner you had to have at
least 30 seconds of Xbox One game footage you had to mention the Xbox One
by name and you had to include the tag xb1
M13 um there was also a few other things like in the guidelines for it may not
say anything negative or disparaging about Machinima Xbox One or any of its
games so it had to include footage you had to mention Xbox One by name and you
had to be positive no matter what you don't have to be positive you can't say
anything disparaging okay that there's a
difference I guess you could be neutral you could be neutral you could be neutral so it' be positive or
but if they put a clause that says don't say anything negative I think the
implication is you should say something positive so you're not wrong you're just
not necessarily technically right yeah okay go ahead um so so this and like
quite a few people jumped on it actually and Machinima got flamed for it and then
there's other big problems like uh the main thing being that I don't think too
many people would have had a big problem with it if they were open about it a lot
of YouTubers did this without mentioning the whole Kickback thing because I I
think it had to be confidential um I think there's actually somewhere in here
yeah it had to be confidential in some form uh you must also keep details of
the promotional agreement confidential in order to qualify for payment so the
idea is if if it was super transparent I don't think too many people would have
cared much but because it was so shady a
lot of people cared there's actually FTC guidelines saying that say you received
a gift from someone and then you did a
did coverage on it in some way it has to be necessarily A gift like even a review
sample yeah um actually I don't know if a review
sample qual yeah yeah I think it does you have to you have to you have to
specify and that's this is in America in Canada I actually don't have to tell you
guys that I got a sample I think it's implied though um because usually I'll
tell you guys I bought it if it isn't a review sample so yeah and then throwing
that out there extra things like like the Oculus review that's coming out or
came out I guess from me I bought that and then there's a Wii U one coming out
soon that was purchased as well like usually unless it's like unboxing BL
blah blah blah blah blah we we actually bought it yeah um yeah I guess that's my
take on it so um problem or not a
problem I think a
problem I think there is a problem here
but not necessarily for the reasons that a lot of people think I think the clause
about not saying anything disparaging about Microsoft Machinima or games is
maybe I don't actually think that's necessarily that bad because it's
implied it's implied and and well okay the problem is if you had something
negative to say just don't take it yes
yeah so like if if you take you can take this bonus you have to say something
nice you cannot take this bonus and say whatever the hell you want there's candy
whatever the candy you want it's it's optional so that I don't necessarily
mind I don't like the you have to keep it confidential blah blah blah so here's
the thing um for example our Squarespace sponsorship um there's a confidentiality
class okay I can't tell you guys how
much Squarespace is paying us when they sponsor the L
show for example it's the so and I'm not
saying that's the same thing that's not I'm just saying that it's fairly typical
for a sponsorship or advertising agreement to have some kind of
confidentiality it's not the it's not the fact that there is one it's the
details within no you're right you're
right I am 100% allowed to disclose that
Squarespace is a sponsor of the show and in fact I feel quite strongly that
anyone who is sponsoring us anyone who is directly giving us money to bring our
content to you guys you guys should know about it because you guys should be
like good job Squarespace for recognizing that we like this content
and we want to see more of it thank you very much for allowing lonus and his
team to keep making it I mean I personally think that sponsorships
support should be as public as possible and you guys are more than welcome to
ask me at any time who our sponsors are and I will be happy to tell you yes this
was paid for this wasn't paid for and these guys are sponsors or these guys
are not sponsors that's all great um no
look at that Hotspot Shield just sent me an email Hotspot Shield happens to be a
sponsor as well the issue here more than anything else is not disclosing that
Microsoft I mean even if you were to say even if they were to say something as
simple as um Microsoft asked me to do
this Xbox one gameplay video yeah so I want to take a moment to
thank Microsoft and talk to you guys a
little bit about the Xbox One and show you this gameplay Fin and like like the
fact that they said it has to be positive doesn't necessarily mean that
it's skewing the person's views person might have already had positive things
to say about it so they're not I don't that that part I yeah I don't on the
other hand it might have and I think when you look at at the terms of this
campaign it seems to be designed to Target guys who otherwise might not
necessarily have been talking about the Xbox one but with all of that said
everyone who took the money knew the terms before they took the
money yep so if you have a problem with
the way that any of this was implemented then take it up with the
YouTuber I mean I don't agree with Microsoft's approach and I don't
particularly care for machinima's way of doing business either let's make that
abundantly clear but if you don't like what a YouTuber is taking money for your
issue is with the YouTuber not necessarily with the sponsor you'll
notice we don't have an Xbox One video no we don't we have an Xbox one
it's over there in a corner collecting dust like it should be has it turned on
the image comparon hold on let's do 30 seconds of uh gameplay footage we can
show like the gameplay versus PC footage cuz all we said is it was sitting there
we didn't say it was doing a bad job it's doing a quite good job of sitting
there yeah it's it looks great it hasn't broken the
connect yeah not broken Xbox one because
we haven't turned it on oh love it I
guess is it's like it's like a what is it Syler no whatever apparently someone
from PC Master race subreddit got an email to promote the Xbox one I mean
Gorilla Marketing is not a new thing there's also someone in here telling us
that we're in sponsored believe it or not we're not NVIDIA hasn't done any
paid promotion with us in about a
year so there you go oh man um all right
let's move on to our next topic I guess speak of NVIDIA sponsorship speaking of
oh what's going on AMD oh yeah let's talk about no let's do the NVIDIA topic
first okay yeah here we go all right so we've got an NVIDIA topic here for you
guys black is back this is just a rumor
but I hope there's well actually I don't know what I think about this rumor it might just be a totally stupid rumor it
was posted by brown ninja 97 on the Forum the original article is from video
cards.com so there you go NVIDIA to launch GeForce GTX Titan Black Edition
and GeForce GTX 790 the Titan Black Edition looks like a somewhat real
mockup that GTX 790 no does not look like a real thing
at all looks like the Titan one with an MS paint black thing and then like some
text over it and maybe sort of the correct font
um but basically the rumor is that the 790 would be a dual gk10 card which is
got to be difficult kind of terrifying obviously it wouldn't have the same
clock speeds or all the same functional units um and then the Titan Black
Edition is rumored to be a fully unlocked because remember the original
GTX Titan does not have all of the gk110
functional units it actually is missing some Cuda cor smx's I guess they call
them now um but we might see so we might see that
card come in with there's rumors about memory bus there's rumors about how much
memory will be on them but we might get a replacement for Titan because remember
Titan doesn't make any sense for a gamer anymore unless you're running like 4K
surround every single time we say this and like someone got super pissed on I
think it was 780 super candied on the 780 Ti video because I said uh Titans
aren't really gaming cards anymore like
super candy and I was like man if you bought bought it a long time ago and
you've enjoyed it this entire time that's totally fine I'm not saying
that's a bad thing I'm saying like if you're looking into it now and you're strictly looking to buy a gaming card
Titan makes this much sense yeah unless you you need the extra frame buffer
otherwise GTX 780 Ti is better in every possible way and cheaper yeah um so so a
Titan refresh because remember Titan is not valid for gaming but it's very
important for Cuda developers or anyone who wants to use the double precision
beanch ful unlocked yeah so I just don't I don't
know if I buy this cuz the rumor says launch date February 2014 to March 2014
but that's Maxwell time frame y y um I I
I find it very odd now now especially with the 790 with like the the crappy
paint overlay um but the the the Titan
black Black Edition we've seen leaks of that colored cooler before yes we have
so it could have easily just been like oh we're going to turn it make it
vertical put it in this line and then yay um so I'm not entirely sure about
that it could be real and I wouldn't be surprised because when the 78 TI came
out we talked about like why isn't there one with six gigs yeah what the heck
maybe that's to Titan Black Edition yeah so I'm would not be surprised if that
one's real I would be fairly surprised if the 790 is real cuz I mean well the
thing about a 790 is if they did manage to keep power and thermals under control
I mean remember too 780 Ti is still
kicks out less heat and consumes less power than the competing AMD cards yeah
so if they did manage to cram two of them onto a PCB it would probably be
significantly faster than even whatever Maxwell can cook up yeah like it's the
only reason why I'm like naying it a little bit is just cuz that's got to be
hard and it's got to be expensive it's a big die expensive like it says like 999
plus I expect that plus to be fairly large NVIDIA hasn't done that yet
they've done 9.99 quite a few times in the past I believe 6800 Ultra was up
near that price point let me just let me just double check I think 6800 Ultra was
when um MSRP at launch hold on was when
the the super expensive graphics card thing really
happened um and then they did it again with 8,800 ultra that was ,000 card but
they've never gone above that as far as I remember I just the only reason why I
say that is because with the Titan Black Edition coming right behind it like
right behind it at 999 it seems weird to
release a 790 right after that at 999
again well why not because they had 590 running at 999 at the same time at or uh
rather 690 running at 999 at the same time as Titan where the 690 was the
gaming card and the Titan was the compute and also because it had a much
better GPU gaming card but if they had a 790 and a Titan black at 999 I don't see
why that's an issue necessarily that would just be interesting and I think we'd have the same thing we had with uh
early Titan adopters with the Titan black where they'd be like why why did
this happen although SLI is kind of still I'm still not a huge fan of two
chips what are you looking up sir I'm trying to find that pricing so FX 5950
380 bucks 6,800 Ultra extreme was only 600 I was wrong so that was that was the
top tier unobtainium card along with the x800 XT Platinum Edition both of which
were very difficult to find and were basically just vaporware uh so 8800
Ultra might have been the first one then okay but at any rate it's all rumors
right now we don't know if any of that is true I actually have heard nothing
from NVIDIA about any of this stuff so there you go all right January 24th oh
why am I even saying that AMD
the title of the document I know all
right so there's been some talk about cavar and some of the things that AMD
could or could not have done and may or may not do oh I think I asked them for a
Twitter Blitz let's go let's go back to the Twitter Blitz call don't forget the
Twitter Blitz you guys actually didn't get that message from anyone but I
figure that's what someone would say if they thought we forgot the Twitter blps
is that the Ubuntu font on your Twitter handle in the lower third dude I have no
idea um isn't there a law in the US that says
paid content has to be disclosed um if you receive the item for free so that
there's so for the sake of full disclosure you have to be like yo I got
this for free so take whatever I say that's positive about it with a grain of
salt in Canada that law does not exist and I'm Canadian although we kind of
usually yeah say so anyways we're not and and we take it upon ourselves to say
negative things even if it was free opinions should not be bought the
viewers are the victim not the I didn't say the YouTubers were the victim I said
they were the culprit yeah I think you're misunderstanding what I
said Terry says the issue is that there
is such a Negative um stigma about the
Xbox one that it would create more negativity if they were open about this
but it creates even more if they get caught more yeah and you know what it's
funny that you mention the negativity around Xbox one because it's really a
lot of it seems unfair it's not PS4 is not not
revolutionarily better than Xbox one yeah it's faster Hardware wise and it
does have some advantages but Sony is
every bit as evil as Microsoft like let's not kid ourselves Sony is the king
of proprietary oh yeah although Microsoft's whole thing with the chat
cable on the Xbox One the chat cable yeah Xbox 360 compatible headsets need a
proprietary adapter that you must buy from Microsoft in order to plug any
other microphone into it it's pretty ridiculous um and then the fact that the
controller doesn't work on PC anyway Sony has a long history mini dis memory
stick um the the memory units that go
into their professional grade camcorders at every turn they try to make things
proprietary and horrible so you know let's not let's not Herald them as a
white knight just yet so I do is this is this like the fastest car on the road
argument though H like the PlayStation
isn't necessarily a white night but the Xbox is a lot
darker they're both speeding just one of them speeding a lot more diit says
please do not understand underestimate the stupidity of the human race I try
Xbox is better than PC says Logan good luck with that um confidentiality oh no
oh why do I keep I don't have enough margin for error here I need more margin
for error uh if it were fully disclosed then absolutely no problem with it being
hidden but that's terrible someone should be sued I don't think lawsuits
are necessarily always the answer either uh okay let's go ahead and go down isn't
there a law that says paid content has to be disclosed I don't think so I mean
it's not like we go to a movie theater and they tell you like hey we were paid
to make this I think sometimes it's implied I don't think it always has to
be explicitly said I think it doesn't H I think it has to be not
hidden like it it was specifically hidden they wer placement
hidden if the main character you if you
a frosty mug of whatever ale someone's trying to sell and looks at the camera
like this come on how many times have we seen that but if you like somehow ask
them they wouldn't say no and like a lot of times you can actually figure out
exactly how much money was put into product so it comes down to that confidentiality Clause yeah yeah I think
that's the problem some $3 is pretty low
for breaking FTC guidelines yeah potentially although $3 it's a good CPM
but it's like he said you're breaking FTC G like if we could generate 100,000
views like a lot of game streamers can and pump out like five videos we're
talking like 15 grand for like five videos if you can
reach 100,000 views with them I mean that's that's this is bad for the
consumer but doesn't happen all the time yes seems super Shady but from what I
heard this is more of a Machinima bad than a Microsoft one and that's actually
interesting and like I said the blame lies not not necessarily on one head
here why you know tweet you started um I
uploaded the video that should have created a tweet in theory
unchecked oh bollocks oh whoops we probably should
have tweeted that uh it's okay what do
you use for your Pebble watch face I'm actually a total loser and I use one of
the default ones I haven't played around with the pebble nearly as much as I
probably should have and now that they're releasing their app store soon I've gotten kind of lazy about it so I'm
just going to wait for that also I have a qualcom talk coming soon so that'll be
an excuse to really into the pebble and really spend some time with it so I can
uh be properly comparative between the two of them Google Voice would be cool
for online shopping or doing research papers that's what they want you to
think I posted this in the Forum about a new cooling option now's not really a
time for us to be following links and reading stuff sorry 762 ASR 780
personally I'd go 780 yeah we we're both
more um more single card Guys these days
I believe candy is already trademarked although um did you run into any issues
testing 780 tili on that rig I'm just curious no
okay um but like a little bit of tearing actually but but tearing is tearing
that's probably just because your frame rate was so high yeah but no like no
driver issues no game Crash nothing like that yeah cuz I mean our whole single
cards are better sort of based on neither of us having run an SLI setup in
a couple of generations now but then
I've built systems for people that requested SLI that have had problems
later on there you go I'd move have you heard about the Intel
nuck yes I've heard of the Intel nuck um and yeah it could be interesting
with steam streaming in mind just like any small low power PC someone says did
you forget to post that the show is up considering we have 3,600 viewers uh
yeah no the the actual post did go up
all right uh just come over to Oz and get great internet no I don't think so
back into the we're back into the internet debate so there you go that was all we really got for the whole
Microsoft marketing thing all right so let's talk about AMD's
potential with cavari so cavari for those of you who don't know is AMD's New
Generation Apu so that is a CPU and a GPU fused into one and now with even
more benefit to that than before because
um if I recall correctly Intel was actually the first one with Lindfield to
ship a CPU and a GPU on the same core even though they weren't on the same die
there was actually a GPU uh die and then a CPU die right next to each other with
a fast interconnect um so while AMD wasn't necessarily the first one to
deliver an APU to Market they are the ones calling it Apu and they have
finally Justified that with the highest technology Apu that we've ever seen and
it Now features HSA so that's
heterogeneous system architecture which means that an APU has four CPU cores and
up to eight GPU cores and AMD is basically going well we're going to call
that 12 cores now don't worry on the box they still specify what kind of cores
the 12r but we're going to call it 12 cores because that processor is now
capable of at the same time working on
up to 12 discrete threads even if
they're all part of the same task because of its Huma technology the CPU
course and the GPU course can both access the same memory at the same time
so they can both use your system RAM and work on the same tasks and collaborate
as opposed to the GPU course sitting and waiting for instructions from the CPU
and then passing information back and forth over PCI Express this is extremely
exciting and it also has huge implications for the value of higher-end
memory subsystems in desktop PCS it's
been quite a while um actually it's been
since the memory controller moved on die
since higher speed memory has really made much of a difference uh like within
a single CPU generation so we've gone all the way from
DDR to DDR 3 without see like whats like
a generational leap in memory performance it's just kind of been
incremental small improvements as processes as manufacturing processes
have improved over time now I mean a
andd was according to this article so the original article is from um actually
there's a lot of Articles linked here so one from Anon uh there's one from
hard hot hardware and then there's another one
from wow that top one SL dot slash dot
okay and then another one from slash dot okay so it was posted by Vitalis on the
Forum and there's some there's some evidence suggesting that AMD considered
gddr5 for cavar there's also so why
would they do that well I pulled up uh this so this is a oh oh balls oh where'
it go where did it go oh no where did that Corsair blog go
history man come on was it in Chrome yeah it
might have been in Chrome make sure you don't activate your mic and ignore a
popup recent tabs come back to me come
back to me recent tabs recently closed oh no
a if you were candy ready for this we wouldn't be going through this right
now I wonder if like how many people get
that here we go all right I found it all right guys so Corsair has an
interesting blog showing us the Improvement and perform oh right right
right so I was going to say we haven't seen much of a difference even with things like Intel um launching triple
Channel and quad Channel memory controllers if you go back and look at
some of the old reviews back when LGA 1366 and 2011 launched of folks going
okay well let's try single Channel dual Channel triple Channel quad Channel yeah
not much of a difference because latency actually goes up as you add more
channels whereas the bandwidth also
increases but if those two performance
so higher latency is bad and higher bandwidth is good and a lot of the times
they were almost pretty much offsetting each other to the point where it really
didn't make much difference at all well now we could be looking at a different
situation so this is from Corsair's blog and uh let's see who wrote it this is by
Dustin Dustin sclavos so he used to work
for ntech um so he's doing some interesting testing here so this is
memory bandwidth going from 1600 to 1866
to 2133 to 2400 so you can see that the
read and write performance which are the blue and the red lines so particularly
the blue one faster reads um are increasing as we add more bandwidth even
though latencies are also increasing and this is amounting to check this
out did you mean blue and green no no
right um these are amounting to check this out so these are different games
BioShock Infinite 720p uh BioShock Infinite 1080p Grid 2 720p and Grid 2
1080p an almost matching line when using
the onboard Graphics wow so if you could potentially
I don't know uh add and this is another thing that is rumored to to potentially
be in there if you could add quad Channel memory support or you could have
memory that runs at you know two times the frequency we could be looking at
onboard Graphics that absolutely destroy
anything anyone could do with integrated Graphics in the past and you might go
okay well iess that's very interesting I guess onboard Graphics are kind of
cool but think about this what about HSA
then so let's say you add a discret graphics card to your system that's cool
okay you game on that but what if uh
your Photoshop filters or your
premere um or or or Premiere
or I'm drawing a complete blank after effects or whatever kind of prograde
visual effects program you're using could be accelerated by those GPU cores
and you could increase the speed of them a couple times just by having faster
memory wow and considering some of the demos that we saw at the cavar tech day
we could be looking at I mean already cavar in an optimized environment which
is easier to code for than it has been in the past because it's all compliant
with opencl 2.0 already they're leaving
competitors in the dust we could be looking at a whole new world of
performance with faster memory for the first time in a very long time outside
of the server space I think AMD's timing could not have been better because this
time last year all doom and gloom will
AMD exist in however long like look at
their stock levels look at how much money they lost all this kind of stuff and now now it's it's Intel sitting
there with a few series of processors being released and people still liking
2600 K and 2500 K more than some of the
new ones um myself still running a 2600k
and being completely fine and happy with it because I don't see that much of a
gain by moving up um comparing to AMD
where it's like look at all this stuff we're doing right now and look at all this stuff we might be doing in the
future and look at all this stuff we almost did and look at all these things we're planning for and what about these
theoretical combinations of things that could be amazing and like I don't know I
see AMD moving much more aggressively in the next little while yeah it's uh very
very very exciting speaking of things that are
exciting this isn't really you see why I
hate this thing touch touch to click doesn't work see not enabled so why is
it that palm detection is causing me to lose focus on
a
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tools or you can dive right into the HTML CSS and Java code should you see
fit but that's not all they've actually got something new that they asked me
very nicely to take a look at and I was like sure Candy template no not so much
it's a logo maker so if you go to squarespace.com logo or
if you just go to their website and go to the menu
here and then go to logos you will load
up the logo maker so this is actually kind of cool I I created a little logo
here um which took me just a couple of moments so you just key in some text so
it could be like uh oops no come back
there we go you can use controllers on PCS the W show and then uh
weekly analysis and news okay well it
can't help you spell any better but what it does allow you to do is move things
around you can take your little logos
here they have a little search thing here so they have some default ones and I was actually a little bit confused
about this at first I was like oh really I can have a pig a diamond a fish or
like a raccoon thank you for the uh compelling choice of Squarespace no no
don't worry it's better than that so you just go ahead and search for symbols so
I punched in Tech and it came up with a bunch of much more relevant
stuff figures it says no icon now you know what's funny is I was actually
doing this on a mobile connection and that was working just fine there we
go Y and there you go you get like printers and CDs and game boys and cool
stuff like that so all of a sudden you can create yourself a little logo you
can change the spacing of the grid you can move things around you can be like
okay I want this to go over here you can make it snap to things you can align it
that way and then it gives you a cool little pre of what your logo will look like on a
business card on a website a Squarespace website
presumably and on a t-shirt that actually looks not bad hey that actually
looks pretty okay so to be clear they're not replacing graphic designers and and
brand um creators they're just creating
like the fastest cheapest easiest way for you to get a logo that's usable and
ready for you to put on your website that you presumably also create on squarespace.com there's some kind of a
rate for how much you can pay to get a logo but it's free for anyone who has a
Squarespace membership and I realize I didn't actually put our lower third back
so I realized that I didn't actually say guys visit squarespace.com Linus get a
free trial and then get up to 10 or get up to wow see I knew it was bad to go
into this angry get 10% off of your uh Squarespace off your first purchase of
Squarespace using offer code Linus one so that includes the website includes
the monthly hosting and also includes their new logo Builder and then and then
they also very nicely asked me to mention uh Squarespace Super Bowl so
they're going to have a Super Bowl commercial really I was like really they
have millions and millions of dollars that's what I said apparently that's
awesome so blah blah blah Squarespace oh hold on do they have like a leak of it
can we watch it they Super Bowl commercials are pretty legit it's not
leaked they they only have a teaser so
they they asked me to show the teaser and I was like yeah sure yeah why not I
mean Super Bowl ads are kind of kind of awesome I'm down with Super Bowl ads all
right where's the teaser video even if I somehow miss the Super Bowl I usually
just go back on YouTube and watch all the ads Super Bowl ads are usually
pretty legit here it is okay there we go
there's a giant baby there is definitely a giant baby in their
teaser can you just be less of a huge
piece of crap thank you there we go all right it's funny because I was so glad
to have my laptop back for this week all right here we go it's only about 15
seconds long
so presumably it's something to do with their whole quest of making the web not
look like a bunch of geoc City's websites and like flashing banners and
stuff like that so their whole thing is is beautiful design and tastefulness and
that logo creator like two seconds in it
looks pretty good yeah it's better than what I could do in paint paint.net
paint.net on the other hand maybe I could do better uh but it would take
more time yes what really you don't think I could
do better than that in pain did you not see the Uproar for your little badge
things I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do about that speaking
of uproar apple is relaunching the iPhone 4
at a very very appealing price of only
$370 for super old technology seriously
Apple what are you doing they probably don't know you can't answer that
question I have no idea I mean if anyone at Apple's watching I mean Tim if you're
watching give me a call right here let
me know what's going on man like how how can you possibly expect people like I
understand why the iPhone 4 is still legitimately expensive I do get it and
what did it have something like four gigs of uh storage yeah
eight is it eight 8 gab mobile models yeah yeah eight gig models uh one gz
single core CPU 512 Megs RAM 5 megapixel rear camera it just it sounds so old
like it doesn't seem that bad necessarily when you're using it then you read this specs on paper and you're
just like like I understand why it's still expensive because the actual like
tooling of it and the like the fit and finish of it is beautiful up there with
almost any modern Android pretty much any modern andro phone L plastic yeah a
lot of plastic junk on the Android side but to expect like to think that first
of all to think that 5c was going to be your value model at $100 cheaper than a
5S come on really to think that iPhone 4
I mean you're not even giving them the 4S to think that iPhone 4 is a value at
$370 is insane I don't imagine that this
is going to be a big success for them I mean the problem that they have over
there is that fewer carrier subsidies uh prevent people from buying expensive
phones well when you're considering that Motorola is talking about a $50
smartphone and that they already have the um the Moto G which is a
$200 actually fairly compelling smartphone I've just started working on
my review of it I know I'm a little bit late but sorry we we we're pretty late
on a lot of our yeah we're pretty late on almost every phone so holding a Moto
G and holding an iPhone 4 I can go yeah this is a beautiful device but this one
is way more functional in every possible
way I I just think this is ridiculous it's it's pretty dumb they just have no
grasp on reality I think in that area we should do the next one someone's like
lonus why are you so mad why am I going to get mad again oh no this isn't a mad
thing no no I'm saying we should do it's a it's there's you put optional in
Brackets this isy I'm saying we should do it calling all members of the LTT
Forum World Cancer Day 2014 basically
this is just a call to Arms to engage in
distributed computing on this
particular folding it's for a week of the world cancer day so it's not
necessarily just World cancer day it's the week that world Cancer Day lays on
so it starts on Monday the 3rd of February and ends on Sunday the 9th give
your power to a good decent cause I know not everyone can run folding or yeah
particularly folding 247 because it does consume a lot of power and that does
cost money but maybe one week out of the year is not such a bad thing if we all
kind of work together so there you go guys uh you can check out the thread it
was post by xilent and then brackets X
people need names that I can say on the show if they want me to say their names
on the show um and that's in the folding at home boink and coin mining sub
Forum very cool and then yeah then we're
moving on small town in Alberta gets gigabit Broadband I'll let you talk
about this this is hilarious this brings up actually this is what I thought you
were talking about what I thought you going to transition into when you did the move thing oh okay uh but yeah
apparent there so there's a small town in Alberta and the community council got
together okay hold on hold on I got another one would you guys move to the
freaking Boondocks like the middle of nowhere Northern Alberta 8,500 people
entire population of city if the thing that he's about to talk about is a thing
go so they did they there was some engineer apparently specific engineering
businesses but uh also other businesses that were complaining that they were
literally shipping drives because it was considerably faster like very
considerably faster to ship a drive than it was to transfer something over the
Internet um and this this was like locally or outside they were just
transferring drives all over the place they saying it was ridiculous they were
going to move and like other towns all this kind of stuff so the council said
no essentially we don't want you to have to move because of internet speeds
because that's ridiculous so they're pulling in uh gigabit to the town now
it's currently in certain locations not everywhere you can currently pay for
about $57 to $90 a month and you can get 100 megabit and they are going to take
that and say like yep same cost but it's gigabit now it's not quite as awesome as
it sounds immediately because you will share with your node okay so if you get
on gigabit you're sharing with your node but you're in like I I don't think I
don't think your neighbor is going to use 900 megabits a second I like I yeah
I'm not too worried about that but that's just something you do have to pay attention to uh the average Canadian
internet download speed is about 6.6 megabytes per second for an average of
$54 a month so that scaling it's pretty
ridiculous that price to Performance ratio right there um they're they're
saying that they they can do this because they don't have to worry about
making massive profit margins all the time they just have to worry about
making a little bit of money so that their Council can still exist obviously
um so the they're actually able to do this at a reasonable level they they
received a pretty sizable Grant um from the government too to actually do this
because of what their whole plan is they're trying to keep people there they're trying to keep businesses there
and all this kind of stuff so it makes sense and they're not gouging people so
the government tries to help them the government actually tries to help a lot
of companies that are laying infrastructure just a lot of those companies don't really care and still
screw people over um and the something
that brings me back to the you're sharing it with the people around you discussion um is that if you're a
business and you want to dedicate gigabit per second line like dedicated
going to be there gigabit per second line you'll have all that bandwidth all the time it's 5 grand okay so it's
like but I think I think they have like one or two maybe businesses in mind when
they have that there and they know they'll hit those to and that's maybe where they're making some of the money
back right um but yeah either way in again investing in infrastructure it
just makes sense thumbs up yeah loving it all right uh demystifying Crystal
there was something that I wanted to talk about not bricks Pro shoot I don't
remember what it was okay do you want to do a demystifying Crystal Cove while you're at it uh I was thinking as we're
getting fairly close and that video is up maybe we should jump to Candy Jam
real quick then maybe we can do that as like an ending sure all right so why
have we been saying the word candy all stream for those of you who didn't watch
the uh the pre-show so the candy Jam
which is awesome and like it's actually kind of hard to read because their
website is ridiculous but I think that's kind of part of the joke
um so I'm not going to harp on them too hard for that but what they say if you're having troubl reading it is
because of because trademarking common words is ridiculous and because it gives
us an occasion to make another game Jam that's why this whole thing exists uh
you have to make a game involving candies in some way consider using the
word candy several times also scroll memory Saga apple and Edge might give
bonus points I'm not entirely sure why I don't think I've necessarily researched the topic deeply enough maybe they're
looking into um trademark those words as well it starts now you can go to it now
it ends 3rd of February there's been 27 games submitted so far and you have an
interesting contest kind of okay so I'm
I'm putting up a $100 bounty to the first person who makes a game called
candy ass candy eaters so the objective of the game has to be that there's like
people and it can get more or less challenging like there can like think
about all the game elements that exist so you could have places where you're
supposed to throw the candy plac is where if you throw it it's negative
points like if a zombie eats it or something then that's that's bad and
that's negative points but the idea is that you throw candy at these people and
they don't like getting hurt so if you miss their mouths directly then it's
like somehow detrimental so that's what makes them candy ass cuz they're like
they don't like getting hit by candy ah and maybe they're running away from the candy as you're trying to feed it to
them or something to make it like challenging or something like that so so
I I want that game to exist only to the the first one though
I'm not paying a bunch of these bounties I really hope someone makes it I don't really think they will but I really I
think anyone will um and this whole thing is kind
of horrible because every single time something like this happens like with
the copyright complaints and like the the guy the main dude backing like yeah
we should have stronger copyright law pirated the background picture for his
website and like this kind of stuff always seems to happen but King uh the
guys behind the copyright of the word candy totally ripped the crap out of a
game called Scamper ghost back in the day so there's um pack aoid and Scamper
ghost and as you go through here you'll notice the screenshots are incredibly
the same um and what actually happened was
they hired a company called where is it
epic Shadow very specifically to copy
Scamper ghost it was like go copy this
game it was fairly straightforward um
the Scamper ghost guys aren't mad at Epic Shadow because King was in their in
their discussions with epic Shadow was saying that Scamper ghost had a signed
contract deal with King and then broke out of it and there's a whole bunch of
stuff going on and it was issues and they were like yeah just go copy that game because that'll be the one actually
published blah blah blah and then epic
Shadow contacted Scamper ghost at some point in time being like yo we thought
you guys were the bad guys I don't know
yeah so Scamper ghost is not specifically mad at them um they're mad
at King and they're more specifically mad at King actually because of the C Cy
copyright thing right cuz they're trying to copyright the word or trademark the
word candy sorry yeah trademark to be clear I mean I don't think we ever
actually said that which is ridiculous yeah that's just candying ridiculous
that's absolutely candying ridiculous so yeah I I think it's funny that these
guys are being super vocal now about the fact that King has done this instead of
previously when it probably still would have gotten a lot of traction but they're doing it now because of a
copyright that doesn't have something to do with them I think that's actually really cool so go play Scamper ghost
because that's awesome well I think that's it I had
something that I really wanted to talk about that wasn't on the dock and I kind
of thought of it and then I forgot about it it wasn't it wasn't bricks Pro I
don't know if I want to talk about that that much anymore was something else um
for the the demystifying Crystal Cove thing uh the video is out right now it
has a lot of it I'm probably going to be doing a long form written right up at
some point in time because there's a lot of stuff that didn't make it into the video
um and there's there's actually a clip that was not put into the release video
oh what that I oh um so oh I I say at one point in
time like there are lenses a b and c and I will talk about those more later and
that clip didn't end up making it in so it made it really awkward um I'm going
to try and come up with some way to integrate that but we can't exactly pull
it down and re-release it now no so um I
was thinking maybe I could upload it unlisted and then like people to it on
the Forum or something so I'll probably do that so you guys can get that clip um
or if you come to the Afterparty I'll probably talk about Oculus even more um
and take questions and stuff like that so we can talk about that there and there will be an Afterparty tonight I
don't necessarily know if I'll be gaming but I'll be giving away games and talking about Oculus yay giving away
games hooray all right well I think I give up
on one last thing actually one very final last thing we have a unofficial
Linus Tech dip start citizen group oh
yes so if you are interested in Star Citizen lus and I are both signed up but
it's unofficial because we're not leading it we're just going to kind of hang we posted it on Facebook so if
anyone was curious what my reach is on Facebook I guess you've all seen it
now um let me just have a look here star
citiz in it's the one with no picture because someone nubbed out
oops H oh yeah there it is so Linus Tech
tips no speaking of would you move if you got faster internet yeah exactly no
I'm pretty sure that's Facebook's problem oh um cuz they they have a lot
of this on mechanical drives now oh really yeah I think it used to be that
your um that your your your main your feed was uh in
memory and now I think a lot of stuff particularly images are being pushed
onto mechanical even so uh Star Citizen uh
organization now with added poll so you can check out that thread on the Forum
if you are interested in it and as far as I can can tell they're being pretty
open to ideas about how it's going to be ran and all this kind of stuff so Post
in there talk about it and it's away quite a ways from being released so
we'll we'll get some stuff more hard it's unofficial to be clear guys yeah
we're not running it yeah but I'm I joined it so did I
yeah yeah I think that's probably about it yeah I give up on this all right
thanks guys for watching The W show we'll see you again next week same bat
Time same bat Channel and the archive should actually be up fair quickly so
I'll just throw it up without a table of contents and then um when he gets around
to it at apparently like 4 in the morning for whatever reason I was done
way before that if anyone wants to do a table of contents and then like fire it
over to him during the Afterparty that would be more than welcome that works
too the one thing that I would ask is that you make sure to include an entry
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