{"video_id":"R0TgKLcHBeE","title":"Graphics Card Sandwich??? - Comino Grando RM","channel":"ShortCircuit","show":"ShortCircuit","published_at":"2021-05-05T14:58:16Z","duration_s":591,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":16.16,"text":"holy crap this might actually be a two-man lift hey I add holy crap this is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.31,"end_s":19.02,"text":"really here it is ho full marks for","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":16.16,"end_s":25.85,"text":"presentation ladies and gentlemen what am I looking at three power adapters","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":29.84,"end_s":40.079,"text":"there we go just need leverage this is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":37.62,"end_s":47.219,"text":"already a super weird computer this is not how you're supposed to open it we're","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":44.489,"end_s":51.719,"text":"opening it backwards but the computer is 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leverage this is already a super weird computer this is not how you're supposed to open it we're opening it backwards but the computer is backwards look the mounting years for the server rack apparently this is rackmount are where the front the back i/o comes out of the front of the computer what am I even looking at so here's the handles here's your power button your reset button whatever these plates are for whatever this display does and your i/o plate is all at the front of the computer so what's at the back of the computer oh we got we've got water cooling for days here ladies and gentlemen oh this is the Camino RM and it shouldn't surprise me that much that the internal layout of this thing is unlike any server I've ever seen before because these are the same crazy folks that brought us yes that thing that super super tiny liquid cooled small form-factor gaming rig inside this box is apparently a Threadripper processor 420 ATT eyes and presumably enough power and cooling to take care of all of that and I don't know if you guys have the context for this or not but here's a Linus hand for scale this is a really compact little server wait what where are the graphics cards at why are there three power supplies what am I even looking at here crap Andy I need alan keyes and allen key ladies and gentlemen courtesy of Andy the Andy man can this machine is nucking futs well let's walk through what we're looking at here starting at the back we've got a triple 120 millimeter radiator with a quite dense fin stack so this is optimized for high airflow fans we don't have any fans directly mounted to it instead we've got three Noctua industrial PPC fans so these are 3000 RPM monsters that have this kind of redirection piece here so that it directs it up and through the radiator which also has a little bit of kind of soft tape here that's presumably to help seal up the back of the chassis as for the components inside rather than take a traditional server approach and go with a single but redundant high power power supply like a 1600 watt power supply or something like that Kamino has opted to go with three sfx 750 watt more like small form factor desktop power supplies with their own label so they've presumably got like an OEM manufacturer or ODM manufacturer building these for them next up we've got our motherboard so this is a Zenith to extreme alpha or whatever it's called this is the top-of-the-line Threadripper board better for CPU I believe it's a 32 core model but that's sort of irrelevant because the focus when building a machine like this was on GPU and where are they where are the graphics cards Andy ah they are this Andy guy he doesn't miss a trick ladies and gentlemen so here on the front of the board we've got three of caminos supercool PCI Express risers so these are PCIe 16x right here and then they've actually got two each I'm handling eight of the lanes two of these thin PCI Express extension cables now normally when you build a small form-factor machine the PCI Express riser is like it's it's thick it's like a ribbon style cable but these apparently have good enough signal integrity to handle these links over a rounded / sleeved connector here thirty-two hundred megahertz these are 32 gig sticks so that's 256 gigs around this puppy is maxed out so heavy oh okay ow right here's our water cooling reservoir they've got a really nice handy dandy little cutout I haven't looked at the water cooling much here so our CPU block which also handles cooling the V RMS here goes down to what seems to be some kind of a manifold there splitter our radiator goes down under the motherboard tray and then our reservoir is over here with a nice handy dandy little cutout CPU block seems to be a custom design that cools both the CPU and the power delivery on the motherboard let's go find some graphics cards here solely listing oh it's warming me up ltte store calm sighs why would the manufacturer of a system like this have the graphics card IO at the front of the case where people would be pretty unsafe to plug in a graphics card and especially why would they put the plugs buying these like little cover plates that's a weird thing to do right oh my god that is so cool I haven't seen this in so long so way back like 10 years ago NVIDIA did a dual GPU graphics card where it actually had two PCBs so one on the slot side and then one over on where would normally be your intake fan and then they had a cutout in the PCB for the fan to draw air in from both sides and then blow it down the back of the card now when manufacturers went to water cool this thing they had no choice because the to PCBs had the components mounted facing each other in they had no choice but to create a block that sat in between them and had the water channel go in and out and had cold plates like copper plates on both sides that is what Camino has done here to create this incredibly slim design that actually has to RTX 28 ET is in about the space you would normally have a single one before I open this up I want to tell you about our sponsor private Internet access private Internet access allows you to access services and websites as though you're in a different country it encrypts all your Internet traffic and uses a safe protected IP you can connect up to five devices at once with clients for Windows macOS Linux iOS and Android and if you check out our offer down below it's 39.95 for a full year and you'll get two months free so go check it out now we'll take this off wow that's actually not bad in terms of accessibility there they are I found you I got you inlet/outlet that goes to this right here onto the CPU out to this side of this okay and then it must also go into the GPUs into this side of this where it goes comes back to oh yeah okay so the CPU is getting about half of the flow coming out of the pump and the GPUs are sharing about half of the flow now I don't actually expect that to be a terrible problem because GPUs while they do actually consume a lot of power and therefore output a lot of heat they're really really large and it's a little bit easier to draw the heat off of them one of the reasons they run so hot is that they have these tiny slim coolers on them with these really inefficient fan designs because they have to go in PCI Express slots instead of being able to have a big thing plunked on them like a CPU does one thing I can't really wrap my head around right now is how they actually put this whole assembly in or take it out but we can leave that for another day we're gonna do a full Linus tech tips video on how this machine performs towards true purpose which ah as I alluded to before doesn't require the GPS to even have their plugs accessible because apparently it's intended as like a network accessible rendering server it's a little curious to me that they didn't bother to at least allow you to install any expansion slots not a big deal because this is one of those high-end desktop 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