{"video_id":"Qn_E_pI9GeY","title":"Can a Dual Core Still Game?? 7350K Review","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2017-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":397,"segments":[{"start_s":0.399,"end_s":8.92,"text":"holy crap a Kew unlocked processor as an","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.12,"end_s":11.32,"text":"I3 this is exciting but that's not all","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":8.92,"end_s":18.8,"text":"it also comes with hyperthreading that's right two cores four threads one I3","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":15.24,"end_s":20.92,"text":"7350k this launch from Intel may be a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":18.8,"end_s":33.239,"text":"bold response to the looming threat that is AMD's ryzen release","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":33.239,"end_s":41.0,"text":"or maybe it's simply a followup to the Pentium g3258 anniversary edition 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see how worth it the first unlocked core I3 really is okay to start us off there's the specs it's got two cores and four threads like I mentioned earlier but it also has 4 megabytes of cache so it's exactly half of a Cory 7 7700k in every way thus far but the story changes when you look at clock speed a 7700k boost to 4.5 GHz a 7350k drops that down but not by much just to 4.2 GHz and that's also not the whole story if someone buys a K series I3 I fully expect and hope that they plan to overclock it that's the whole point so anyways I got mine up to 5 GHz easily with 1.4 volts but with some tuning I'd expect that you'd be able to drop that down to like 1.35 volts or maybe even lower I stress tested it for a long time and it was Rock Solid I'm not the only one either people are getting 5 gz on this chip all over the Internet it's an exciting time to be an I3 like before though you'll need an overclockable chipset so Zed series if you want to learn more about the Zed 270 motherboards the updated on board graphics and the finer details of Intel's latest platform check out this video up here but okay enough of that let's talk about performance this is not an easy answer I put our 7350k on the bench along with an ASUS Rog z270 Maximus 9 code 16 gigs of gskill ddr4 RAM a Corsair h100 GTX V2 extreme and a Founders Edition NVIDIA GTX 1080 just to remove potential GPU bottlenecks in games on the same setup I also o ran a core i57400 the 7400 it's a true quad core with 4 total threads that cost $182 just $2 more than the 7350k to do this we used the 7700k and adjusted hyperthreading settings and multiplier settings to get pretty much equivalent performance it works trust me and if you don't believe it check out this video remember no K so no overclocking it's not an option for most people the first comparison that I want to do between our 7400 and our 7350k is cinebench the 7350k has a way higher clock speed at 5 GHz versus 3.5 so it should crush in single core performance and it did so all is well except that it also crushed in multi-threaded those Speedy little hyperthreaded cores not only crushed in cine bench but also pull the victory in our seven zip test and our image editing through ASUS Rog realbench that's 4 to zero so far but before you go out and spend your $182 on an I3 7350k and two cans of pop there is also video encoding to consider the i57400 did win the real bench en coding tests but not by much then there's gaming ah man there is no difference between either of these processors or the top-of-the line 7700 k when testing DSX mankind divided so I guess I can go ahead and never test that when comparing CPUs ever again so anyways moving on in GTA 5 rise of the Tomb Raider and Ashes of the singularity average performance was very similar there were some differences in minimums with the 7350k falling behind although it was a little inconsistent and not that major either way so in conclusion the Intel I3 7350k costs more than we feel like it 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