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This is the OneXPlayer OneXFly Apex, the

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fastest [snorts] gaming handheld in the world. But, we're

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not going to look at that just yet because I want to look AT THIS, THE

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FROST BAY, a water cooling unit that

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takes it from 80 watts TDP all the way

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up to a whopping 120

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What is handheld about this?

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This is a whole freaking water cooling setup. You got your radiator. You've got

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your Seriously, you ripped off the Cooler

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Master logo and called it Cooler Doctor?

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Fill port.

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Wait. Wait.

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No. Ain't no way. I mean, that's all that's

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in here other than of course this quick connect water cooling tube thing.

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Rotates counterclockwise to lock, that is counter [music]

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intuitive. Now, [laughter] let's have a look at the Apex. I'm

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legitimately so excited to check this thing out. It's a direct competitor to

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the GPD Win 5, which I've been really enjoying. I played through just about

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all of Expedition 33 on it and I had an amazing experience thanks to the up to

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Ryzen AI Max 395 Plus processor. That

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thing is an absolute monster. I'm talking 16 Zen 5 CPU cores, 32 threads,

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8,000 mega transfer per second LPDDR5X

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memory, which matters a lot because of the Radeon 860S GPU. You can run AAA

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games on this handheld on its 8-in 1200p

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display at like [music] high settings.

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And I got to say

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I think they actually kind of nailed the ergonomics for it. To be clear this is a

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heavy handheld and I don't even have a

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battery attached to it yet. But, it's quite holdable for an 8-in.

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All right, let's have a look at the inputs and outputs, shall we? We've got

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capacitive joysticks, pretty satisfying feeling clicky D-pad.

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Ooh, I really like the face buttons, too.

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Nice clicky micro switch style but with a little bit of travel before you get to

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the click. I ooh, I really like that. It's almost like a like a hybrid

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approach. Hall effect triggers that have a

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hair trigger switch. That's not the most responsive hair

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trigger switch I've ever seen but it's not bad. Very reachable shoulders.

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Actually love the ergonomics of that. Along the top, we've got a headphone

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jack, fingerprint sensing power button, volume rocker, USB-A, barrel jack. Okay,

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we're going to have to talk about power profiles and charging quite a bit and a

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USB 4 port that does 40 gigabit per second and can charge but

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Okay, I guess we're going to get into it a little bit now.

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>> [clears throat] >> The device is limited to 55 watts TDP

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while we're plugged into that. What's this?

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>> [gasps] >> All right. So, the water cooling's actually

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optional. You can get it with or without

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and then if you get the water cooling add-on, you can buy the Frost Bay for

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another $200, which I mean

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it's not a little bit but it's also not a lot for an external water cooling bay.

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It doesn't seem outlandish. Also on the back here

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got a couple paddle buttons and

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Oh, interesting. Did OneXPlayer use the

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same battery interface as GPD? It looks

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extremely similar but apparently is not quite the

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same. That's actually a bit of a disappointment. I'd prefer they were the

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same. Along the bottom, we've got another type C port, a micro SD slot and

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then speaking of copying homework, a mini SSD slot. There aren't a lot of

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options for occupying this but Biwin makes one and it can be found in up to 2

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terabyte capacities and is much faster than a micro SD card. What else is in

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the box? Now, let's talk about that battery.

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Woo! She was already a little on the heavier

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side. Now, she's even heavier. This is an 85

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watt hour battery that um unfortunately,

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at the highest wattage that this thing can run at

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is not actually going to last you that long. To their credit though, OneXPlayer

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did what I would have liked GPD to do and they put a kickstand on the battery

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so you can actually use a kickstand with this thing.

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Wow, more copied homework. This is pretty much the same like interface.

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I suspect that OneXPlayer knows that not

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many people are going to buy this water cooled option unless they're planning to

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use this like functionally as a desktop,

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which you could. I mean, it's a Ryzen AI Max 395 Plus.

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Uh This is new. It's a hex driver.

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That ooh ooh ooh, Phillips head? Ooh,

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flathead? Yeah, I think we've got better screwdrivers at lttstore.com. Dude,

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trick seven is so cool. I just wish so expensive. And I also wish that

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OneXPlayer was using the newly announced skews that have lesser CPUs but still

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have the full fat GPU. But, unfortunately, I have to assume that

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development was done on this unit before those were announced.

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There we go.

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Here we go.

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Not going to lie. I'm into it.

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Okay, this is pretty clever. So, this is the

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air cooled version, which costs a little bit less cuz it doesn't include the

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water block. Right? There's your Ryzen AI Max down there. Pretty standard, you

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know, handheld layout at this point. Then, you just take the top

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of that cold plate for the CPU

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and you just hack this copper plate on it. This will allow you to assist the

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integrated air cooler by pulling heat directly off of over top of the chip

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here. You know what this handheld needed? More weight.

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Apparently, this thing's about 70 g. So, if you're not going to use the external

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water cooler, I wouldn't opt for that uh version of it.

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Okay. You know what? That's not that bad.

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One fan, one piece of tape and I can get

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at a full 80 mm M.2.

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I I'm okay [music] with it. I'm okay with it. That's not bad. I think you

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could get a double-sided SSD in here but you'd be putting more pressure on this

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ribbon cable than I would be comfortable with. It's not the sort of thing that I

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linked down below. Oh, now seems like a good time to address that like the Win

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5, there is an umbilical cord option. You have to pay extra for it in this

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case but it allows you to run the battery separately with just like a lead

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to it. I kind of thought that was silly back

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when I did my unboxing of the Win 5 but when I was using it for a period of a

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couple months actually, I found myself almost exclusively using it that way cuz

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it turns out that having all this weight hanging off your hands

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it's just it's not great.

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This kickstand helps a fair bit. It would make me more likely to care about

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having the battery attached but

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Wow, is this over a kilo with the battery on it cuz it feels like it's

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over a kilo. And also there's a little bit of play

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in this attachment.

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Doesn't feel reassuring, you know? Think what I would probably do is put

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like a a higher I see they've already done it but I would put a bigger foam

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sticker here so you like really compress that so it doesn't move around. Oh, I

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haven't shown you guys the power brick yet.

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Dude, this is the unboxing that never ends, man.

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Is that an XT60?

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Yep. Everyone knows I was kidding when I talked about using XT60s for PC power,

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right? You have got

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to be kidding me here.

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One X >> [laughter]

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>> One X Player advertises up to 240

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watts of charging off of this GAN brick

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and XT60 connector.

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And is this is this only a 3-ft cable? I mean, I

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guess being an XT60, you can kind of mod any cable you want, but this is This is

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not a very good handheld experience,

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ladies and gentlemen. Like, look at this. I have to get that all the way to the

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top of the device. What the Sam heck were they thinking

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putting this short cable on it? They were thinking you put it into the Frost

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Bay first. Does it matter which one's which?

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They're not labeled. Okay, okay, so it's just >> It's just literally a power

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pass-through. Okay. >> pass-through then. This is also not great. This is an extremely short cable.

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Okay, we'll get to the We'll get to the Frost Bay later. First, I want to see

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this thing in its maximum performance

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glory. By the way, it's worth noting that while it supports 240-watt

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charging, like basically any device, it

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only does that for a little while, and it especially only does that for a

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little while before really settling down.

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You know, in theory, a capacitive joystick is a

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really high-quality way to

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build a joystick. [music] Unfortunately, this is about the

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cheapest-feeling implementation that I've ever felt. The responsiveness of it

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is great. The feel is not. I feel like

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something's wrong here. Okay, let's press the One X button. Ah,

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yes, we're at 20 watts. Let's go to 80, shall we?

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WOAH, THAT'S MORE LIKE IT. WOAH, listen to those fans go, buddy.

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This is 50% fan?

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Oh, you can control the vibration motors?

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Mhm, wow. This is a really nice little

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resolution tool. One X Player's overlay has improved a

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lot since the last time I looked at it.

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This is insane. Like, sure, I'm only getting

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30 FPS, but guys, this is Cyberpunk 2077.

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And sure, I Okay, I'm using some

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FidelityFX upscaling, but I'm running at freaking like high.

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Like here, if we actually went to the Steam Deck preset, okay? Steam Deck

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preset, 720p like a Steam Deck. Jeepers

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creepers, 150 160 FPS.

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This thing is an absolute monster. It's so loud,

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but so is the Win 5. Give me a second.

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I almost exclusively game on it using my AirPods so that I can

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tune out the fan noise. Quite blockable.

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Quite blockable indeed. Okay, what about the speakers?

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Those are shockingly rich speakers.

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It's kind of a shame that I'll never get to use them because the fans are so

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loud. Okay, let's go to a power profile that I'd be more likely to actually use.

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Now we're talking. Reasonable fan noise

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to the point where I can actually use the speakers.

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Still incredible performance at very

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usable image quality. And if you're running at 45 watts,

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you'll actually get like a couple hours of battery life out of it.

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Or at least I I don't know, it's complicated.

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Because unlike the Win 5, One X Player has made the odd decision to limit the

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power to 20 watts for the last 20% of

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your battery, and there's no obvious way to override that that we've been able to

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find. Either way, up until that time, it'll be pretty solid. Let's try the

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water cooler. So, I'm going to assume this needs to be

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full of water first. There's no real power switch on it. The Frost Bay

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doesn't have a conventional on-off switch.

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So, so we need to go into the full One X

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Player utility, and then we have to pair it via

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Bluetooth. In summary,

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getting the water cooling system connected is not super intuitive. Okay,

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connect. Hey, I think we're there. We are connected.

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Now, what did it Oh, there it is.

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It just kicked in. 120 watts, let's go.

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Okay, so the cooling system is in smart fan curve mode. We're

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getting 50 ml per minute.

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Is anyone else seeing that number and going, "Yo, what?" That's like nothing. I'm

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pretty psyched right now, though. I can't wait to try this.

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You can't have the battery kickstand on at the same time as this, but they do

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have like a cardboard eco stand that you can put it on with the uh

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dock. With that said, the way this dock is configured with like no tether

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distance or anything, it's pretty clear that it's a it's a desktop dock. Like,

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this is not meant for handheld use at all.

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This thing is so insane.

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We're closing in on 200 FPS. Like, okay, yeah, it's turned down pretty low, but

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watch this. Okay, forget this Steam Deck nonsense. Now we're going to go ultra.

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Yeah, sure, we'll use upscaling, but we're going to use the native resolution of the panel this time. So, we'll

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upscale to [music] that. And we're getting a casual 80+ FPS. Holy crap.

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Freaking smooth. Man, could I even run native?

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Dude, you could run native 1200p ultra on this

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thing. That is so sharp. We're still getting

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like 70+ FPS, and the temps are fine.

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Not amazing, all things considered. I

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would kind of think that the water cooling unit would be doing more. Man, I

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mean, it's definitely carrying heat away. This tube is warm.

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And this one is cool. It It needs more water flow. And I'd be

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down to like put a better pump in this thing, get some real water flow going.

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Like, this is This is so cool.

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Pump is running at 50%. Like, we can turn it up. And the water cooler is

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disconnected again, and I can't get it to 120 watts. But, you know what? As I

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already said, realistically, the water cooler is not something that I

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expect pretty much anyone to actually use with this thing. And the

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good news is that it already has

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I was going to say class-leading performance without the water cooler,

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but it just has leading performance without the water

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cooler. It manages a slightly higher maximum TDP compared to the GPD Win 5.

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And even at 75 watts, because of One X Player's emphasis on GPU power versus

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CPU power in graphically intensive games, you should expect a little bit

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more performance. With that said, the GPD Win 5 did outperform the Apex in,

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for example, Rocket League at 1080p, which is a little bit more of a

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CPU-bound scenario. Bottom line, you're getting otherworldly performance in a

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handheld form factor with this thing. Like, it's just mind-blowing. I mean, Black Myth at 720p was what, like over

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100 FPS? Well over 100 FPS at reasonable

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settings. With all of that said, as someone who

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has daily District's Halo device in a handheld form factor,

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I'd say unless you're plugged into the wall, it's very unlikely that you're actually

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going to be running it at maximum wattage, and that's where One X Player's

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solution for their barrel charger really

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falls short for me. I'm not a big fan of that. I need a longer cable. With that

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said, I feel like they make up a lot of that ground in the superior ergonomics

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of the device compared to the GPD Win 5, not to mention the larger display. It

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has about the same peak brightness, around 500 nits, and does 120 Hz

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variable refresh rate. So, there's no real compromises there. It's just a big,

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pretty bright, beautiful display. We're going to throw up some battery results

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here, but there's a very important caveat, and that is that, as I mentioned

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before, the Apex drops to 20 watts when

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it has 20% battery left. So, realistically, I'd expect real-world

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results that are a lot closer to what's listed in the GPD Win 5 column, because

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they are very similar devices. Now, the

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only question is, if all of this looked appealing, what could it cost, Michael?

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$10 for the base model with a Ryzen AI

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Max 385, it's ooh.

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Then for the upgraded one with more RAM and a 395, it's ooh.

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Then if you want the water cooler, IT'S AH. I I'M JUST MAKING NOISES BECAUSE they

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keep changing the pricing. It's actually gone up since we started shooting this

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video, so. It's really cool, though. Water cool.

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Subscribe to ShortCircuit. If you guys are looking for another video to watch,

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why not check out the unboxing of the GPD Win 5?
