WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:08.240 recently we built this AMD budget gaming rig for just 500 and it's pretty good 00:00:06.640 --> 00:00:12.800 but here's the thing everybody knows when it comes to getting 00:00:10.559 --> 00:00:18.000 the best bang for the buck Intel is where it's at as long as you 00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:23.600 don't mind having no warranty having an exposed die on your processor 00:00:20.240 --> 00:00:25.920 and using some pretty sketchy BIOS hacks 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:32.640 yes my friends this right here is the heart and soul of what we're dubbing the 00:00:28.880 --> 00:00:35.360 ruthless economy pc so tighten up your 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:37.680 sandals ladies and gentlemen because this 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:46.079 is going to be one wild ride and it's brought to you by 00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:50.000 private internet access pia is the vpn service that encrypts all your internet 00:00:47.760 --> 00:00:53.199 traffic and uses a safe protected ip it's got a ton of other cool features as 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:56.760 well so you can check it out at the link in the video description 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:12.159 let's start with explaining what you guys were looking at before this is the 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:14.720 qqlt es an engineering sample chip with 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:22.000 six cores and 12 threads that's clocked from 2.4 gigahertz base to 4.1 gigahertz 00:01:18.240 --> 00:01:23.280 boost that was supposed to be 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:29.920 destined for a laptop but has been frankensteined by 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:35.840 the one and only mr sue so that it can be installed in a desktop one of these 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:41.680 is gonna run you just a hundred and twenty five dollars which is pretty good 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:45.439 for a six course so uh between mr sue and lisa sue 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:49.200 i think i'll take mr sue any day of the week again as long as you don't mind 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:52.799 having no warranty whatsoever and buying engineering sample chips 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:59.520 really though the main value add here is not the CPU 00:01:55.759 --> 00:02:03.840 itself but rather that this CPU allows 00:01:59.520 --> 00:02:06.880 us to get one of these the h110d3a 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:08.800 is a mining optimized motherboard 00:02:06.880 --> 00:02:13.280 you can see it's got all these pci express slots here for those little 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:17.760 mining GPU adapters that can be had on ebay for as little as 30 dollars 00:02:16.239 --> 00:02:23.000 and happens to we hope work perfectly with the qqltes 00:02:23.760 --> 00:02:28.480 it's not even the same shape the installation process for this 00:02:26.959 --> 00:02:33.120 abomination here very straightforward you go ahead you 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:37.120 take this buddy here with the little uh notches you line them up with the little 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:42.319 notches right there there you go a little something like that oh yeah 00:02:40.160 --> 00:02:46.560 you pop this little like carrier slash hold down plate puppy on 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:53.040 here and then you just yep you just you screw 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:54.640 these screws right into the motherboard 00:02:53.040 --> 00:02:59.040 no problem there's actual tapped holes on the back 00:02:58.239 --> 00:03:05.200 oh oh okay i thought we were just screwing into the pcb well that's a little better 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:08.959 no yeah it's it's like kind of legit okay for cooling you'd be surprised how 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:14.879 cheap we can go this right here is an Intel stock cooler 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:19.680 you can probably scavenge one of these for nothing but if you do have to pay 00:03:17.440 --> 00:03:25.040 for them they go for about nine dollars on ebay and that's not a lot of metal 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:30.640 that's not a lot of cooling there but the good news is that because we're 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:34.239 using a mobile processor it also doesn't 00:03:30.640 --> 00:03:35.920 output a lot of heat and compared to the 00:03:34.239 --> 00:03:41.040 space constraints that you would have to deal with in a laptop 00:03:39.040 --> 00:03:45.519 this uh yeah looks you know downright frosty one 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:49.760 thing we want to be careful of when installing the CPU is that we're not 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.200 putting excess pressure on one corner and we're applying it evenly because 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:57.599 otherwise we could crack that exposed die and our CPU would be 00:03:55.920 --> 00:04:02.159 very dead at that point now when it comes to storage we never 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:06.720 recommend cheaping out and going second hand because when you think about it 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:11.040 what's 10 or 20 compared to the value of your precious family photos 00:04:08.959 --> 00:04:14.560 but this is the ruthless economy pc isn't it so 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:20.560 for our boot drive we went with this samsung 840 series off of ebay it's just 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:25.440 over 20 dollars and does have a dram cache so we won't expect the slowdowns 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:30.720 that can happen with d roundless ssds and then because 120 gigs just plain 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:34.000 ain't enough to store any modern games like warfare type games you know what 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:40.000 i'm talking about we also went with a one terabyte 00:04:35.919 --> 00:04:41.280 barracuda that was 19 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:46.080 yeah the great thing about this is that by 00:04:43.520 --> 00:04:51.759 spending only 40 on our storage we were able to get 16 gigs of RAM i mean sure 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:55.360 it's from a brand that even i've never heard of time tech 00:04:54.639 --> 00:05:02.000 but theoretically i mean those are RAM chips on there sk hynix should be fine right 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:06.880 right right yeah yeah 60 bucks for those 60 00:05:05.440 --> 00:05:10.560 bucks now it's time to start building this thing 00:05:09.039 --> 00:05:15.199 meet computer case 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:19.840 it's got compelling features like steel 00:05:16.479 --> 00:05:19.840 and front panel 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:31.440 it also happens to be extremely lightweight so light i can't 00:05:28.320 --> 00:05:31.440 even get it out of the box 00:05:33.840 --> 00:05:39.520 all of this and no more can be yours for 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:44.080 just 30 which happens to be 30 more 00:05:42.080 --> 00:05:48.000 than we're willing to spend on a case in a ruthless economy pc 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:52.639 meet the end tech p180 side of the road 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:57.120 edition we got this for free 00:05:54.960 --> 00:06:02.000 on the side of the road it has features like no front panel 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:08.240 look at that unrestricted airflow after we removed these capes up fan filters 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:12.800 you it might even have bugs it's not a bug it's a feature the 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:18.479 craziest thing about the p180 sotr edition is that it's not even the most 00:06:15.280 --> 00:06:22.000 defunct thing about itself rip ncix to 00:06:18.479 --> 00:06:25.039 go with our vintage antec case 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:27.680 we got a vintage antec power supply this 00:06:25.039 --> 00:06:31.680 is an earth watts 650 watt and we would describe it as 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:35.520 old reliable you know it's reliable because someone's been running it in 00:06:33.280 --> 00:06:39.840 their gaming rig for the last 10 years it might have uh 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:44.720 something kind of rattling around inside it but it was only 20 bucks on ebay 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:51.120 and i'm sure that'll come out if we shake it hard enough 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:54.720 it's hot glue i wonder what it was holding in place 00:06:55.199 --> 00:07:03.759 i gotta say it's been a spicy minute i think the last time i built in a p180 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.720 series case and tech was still relevant 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:09.840 hey got him 00:07:06.960 --> 00:07:15.759 it is so dirty and like look at this oh my god 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:18.000 ew it's dust 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:24.000 i thought it was like a mark from the heat of the CPU or something gross 00:07:21.440 --> 00:07:30.319 you can actually read the brand it's a zalman lga 775 cooler 00:07:27.840 --> 00:07:34.880 when did these guys go so wrong all right i never installed the RAM 00:07:33.039 --> 00:07:38.540 all right and 00:07:39.919 --> 00:07:46.800 there we go i guess i'll need some screws uh those 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:50.319 screws are actually from the not working system that was in that case 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:55.440 beautiful recycling if your side of the road p180 doesn't 00:07:53.599 --> 00:07:58.400 have uh these screws you too can check your hope in a prayer 00:07:57.520 --> 00:08:02.639 bin and uh hope and pray that you 00:08:00.960 --> 00:08:06.400 find some of them in it they're not wide enough at the head i would need like a 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:11.560 washer or something instead hopefully they hold it in well enough to at least 00:08:08.080 --> 00:08:11.560 finish this video 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:19.360 look at this class a cable management we got on this case here 00:08:17.440 --> 00:08:23.120 look at this there's your little cutout right there 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:26.800 kind of put that through there plug that in the back your hard drive 00:08:24.960 --> 00:08:30.639 right there a little something like that oh yeah 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:33.360 boom done 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:39.200 and you just hope it stays out of the fan 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:39.200 that fan is so freaking dirty 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:45.200 i also found a screw in it the top fans apparently connect 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.000 the molex so we'll go ahead and i really don't 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:52.320 like touching this this is really very dirty 00:08:50.640 --> 00:08:57.360 like it smells i did it for the views 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:03.680 oh this is the most dead fan that i have seen in some time check this out you can 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:06.680 actually see it's popped out of the frame 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:15.760 that's okay this one spins 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:20.240 that one's bit does that just loosen there 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:26.959 now older cases like this one don't have anywhere to properly mount an SSD so 00:09:25.040 --> 00:09:30.000 we're going to go with right there one time i threw my SSD 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:34.399 in the drive bay area and it fell out and 00:09:32.880 --> 00:09:38.240 shorted the back of my motherboard i have a solution we're gonna cable manage 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.880 it to hold it in place okay see 00:09:39.839 --> 00:09:48.720 now it cannot fall see perfect 00:09:45.040 --> 00:09:50.320 here's a pretty modern feature actually 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:56.560 GPU power cables coming up through the basement this case really was ahead of its time 00:09:55.120 --> 00:10:01.519 now it's time to put the cherry on top of our feces 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:08.000 sunday here this gtx 1070 cost us about 200 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:12.640 and should deliver anywhere from 30 to 40 percent more performance than the 00:10:10.160 --> 00:10:18.480 1650 that we put in our all brand new parts with warranty's 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.720 gaming machine isn't it beautiful and andy yeah it's a 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:28.000 slipper it's more than a sleep it's like 00:10:24.560 --> 00:10:31.360 blackout drunk 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:33.279 wow genuine Intel 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:38.480 zero cpu000 two point four gigahertz but hey turbo's working it's uh 14 nanometer 00:10:36.800 --> 00:10:41.519 which for Intel means it's either very modern or 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:46.880 quite old it's coffee lake which tells us more specifically what era it's from so i'm 00:10:45.040 --> 00:10:51.920 expecting actually pretty decent performance from this thing and it 00:10:48.640 --> 00:10:54.000 identifies as a xeon 2400 00:10:51.920 --> 00:10:59.360 so like a mobile xeon fascinating this is a 45 watt chip and 00:10:57.839 --> 00:11:05.360 wait is this one unlocked yeah that might not be the CPU that i thought it was 00:11:02.079 --> 00:11:07.279 yeah we put the wrong CPU in uh 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:10.720 that's why it wasn't showing up as one that would be unlocked 00:11:08.959 --> 00:11:14.800 so it needs to be one of these in our defense they all kind of look the same 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:19.120 so while we swap out this CPU it's a good time to point out that with a bare 00:11:16.800 --> 00:11:24.160 dye chip like this it is extremely important to have thermal compound 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:26.320 covering absolutely everywhere on it 00:11:24.160 --> 00:11:29.279 if you have any part of it that is not thermal pasted 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:33.200 there is a good chance it will die it won't die it will just 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:37.200 do really bad no it could die because some part of it that doesn't have a 00:11:34.560 --> 00:11:41.040 proper temperature sensor oh true yeah i don't know it's easy for me to 00:11:38.959 --> 00:11:45.200 say as you know someone with a full-time job and who's an adult and all that that 00:11:43.920 --> 00:11:50.160 you know this is scary and i wouldn't recommend it but teenage me would probably say well 00:11:48.560 --> 00:11:54.720 you're an idiot for buying this when you can get more FPS with that 00:11:52.800 --> 00:11:59.519 of course we need to figure out if it actually gets more FPS first 00:11:57.519 --> 00:12:03.680 it's going to crush it minor details absolutely crushing look that's what we 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:09.279 think but let's just verify it okay well let's open up xtu here 00:12:05.920 --> 00:12:11.200 oh it says thermal throttling 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:16.399 what that's weird we're not even doing anything 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:17.600 oh wait it's better now what'd you do 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.480 did you just give it a little wiggly wiggle yeah did one of the clips not go 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:27.680 all the way in yeah i think that you just missed one of the clips you want to turn it off and fix that uh sure 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:32.399 sorry there little CPU oh yeah so it clicked in but it didn't 00:12:29.839 --> 00:12:35.040 click into the motherboard give it a little wiggle 00:12:35.920 --> 00:12:42.800 wow i get a cloud of dust when i press the power button that's exciting i've 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:46.399 got xtu open and i don't actually know if applying 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:50.240 anything is going to work yet but it appears as though 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:55.040 everything is completely unlocked on this puppy so 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:59.760 that's cool our temps are good we're idling at around 30 degrees now which is 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:04.399 exactly what i'd expect which means it's time for a quick cinebench drag race run 00:13:02.079 --> 00:13:11.839 you ready genuine Intel 00:13:05.959 --> 00:13:11.839 cpu000 versus ryzen 3 3100 and go 00:13:12.880 --> 00:13:21.839 dang it may be sketchy but it sure sketches 00:13:18.079 --> 00:13:21.839 this scene fast 00:13:24.959 --> 00:13:32.079 wow and it's the same price for these 00:13:28.800 --> 00:13:34.079 machines eh yep exactly the same exactly 00:13:32.079 --> 00:13:38.680 the same dang 00:13:35.920 --> 00:13:44.079 2 800 2300 points so that's a cinebench win 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:49.440 now to be clear if all you were after was cinebench performance you could also 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:51.600 go pick yourself up a first gen ryzen 7 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:54.160 8 core and it would beat the stuffing out of this 00:13:52.880 --> 00:13:57.920 but remember we're after an all-round good experience 00:13:56.959 --> 00:14:04.079 here and that includes gaming 00:14:00.560 --> 00:14:06.079 take that alex boom who's got more FPS 00:14:04.079 --> 00:14:09.839 now baby oh shoot oh my control key oh you have a lot more than me wait why is 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:14.639 there a control key here that's not control this is there's two controls on the left 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:19.440 you're gonna have to plant the bomb at some point oh no no no 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:23.199 no okay cool so let's just like stand here 00:14:21.680 --> 00:14:28.880 and follow our team around so we're anywhere from around 10 15 to 00:14:25.920 --> 00:14:33.279 as high as 20 percent faster on our frankenstein machine compared to all new 00:14:31.040 --> 00:14:38.320 parts let's try one more game before we do that alex 00:14:35.839 --> 00:14:41.760 really wants to try overclocking this thing so what do you think 4.5 gigahertz 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:47.120 all core yeah we might be able to do 4.7 uh not 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:49.920 all core that's really aggressive yeah all right there's 4.5 velcro do you want 00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:55.920 to careful it's dead i was about to say give her a bit more voltage 00:14:52.880 --> 00:14:57.360 4.5 all core didn't crash yet 00:14:55.920 --> 00:15:00.720 not something do you want to run a cinebench i would love to it's 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:07.120 definitely on the struggle bus a little bit but it's running at 4.5 boys 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:10.839 dang 96 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:15.839 95 ah throttled okay so we need better cooling 00:15:13.680 --> 00:15:20.959 i'm one point one five oh it's dead it's it's not okay 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:26.959 we're done you're done but it's off it turned off 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:28.880 that's weird our hard drive disappeared 00:15:26.959 --> 00:15:33.920 our partition is gone okay 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.920 that's why do maternal won't launch 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:39.680 uh i mean we did say that using uh used 00:15:37.839 --> 00:15:43.839 hard drives was something we don't recommend 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:49.680 at least all we lost was some games that's crazy so running 3dmark we're 00:15:46.079 --> 00:15:52.720 looking at as high as 25 30 difference 00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:56.320 in performance going from our 500 value 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:58.000 rig to our ruthless economy rig making 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:01.360 this one even more appealing is the fact that it has double the system memory 00:15:59.839 --> 00:16:05.600 which i mean might not be useful in every game but 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:09.759 could definitely come in handy so there you have it folks 00:16:07.680 --> 00:16:14.399 she might not look like much she might not last for long and she 00:16:11.920 --> 00:16:20.000 might smell real bad but she's got it where it counts the 00:16:16.560 --> 00:16:21.600 ruthless economy build comes out on top 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:25.839 you can find the links to where to check out all this stuff in the video description as usually happens when we 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:31.279 make a video about this kind of stuff though it'll probably all be out of stock by the time you look at it but hey 00:16:29.040 --> 00:16:35.440 it's worth a shot you know what else is worth a shot 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:38.480 checking out our sponsor micro center actually that's great because that's 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:42.160 probably where you're going to end up going when you look at this and go yeah 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:47.440 no i don't want any part of that you can get the powerspec g435 computer at micro 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:52.560 center you can shop online or in person at any of their 25 locations across the 00:16:49.680 --> 00:16:59.040 u.s and the power spec g435 features an Intel core i7 10700 kf 3.8 gigahertz 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:01.199 processor NVIDIA rtx 2070 super graphics 00:16:59.040 --> 00:17:06.480 32 gigs of RAM and it's packed in a lienly 205 atx computer case so 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:10.559 basically it's better than this in every possible way 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.959 but of course it does cost a little bit more because like you know warranties 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:18.959 and little conveniences like that thanks for watching if you guys enjoyed this video 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:24.000 maybe check out our previous exploration into mr sue's crazy frankenstein cpus 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:28.319 where we go a little bit more in depth into how they are actually made