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recently we built this AMD budget gaming rig for just 500 and it's pretty good

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but here's the thing everybody knows when it comes to getting

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the best bang for the buck Intel is where it's at as long as you

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don't mind having no warranty having an exposed die on your processor

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and using some pretty sketchy BIOS hacks

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yes my friends this right here is the heart and soul of what we're dubbing the

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ruthless economy pc so tighten up your

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sandals ladies and gentlemen because this

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traffic and uses a safe protected ip it's got a ton of other cool features as

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well so you can check it out at the link in the video description

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let's start with explaining what you guys were looking at before this is the

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qqlt es an engineering sample chip with

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six cores and 12 threads that's clocked from 2.4 gigahertz base to 4.1 gigahertz

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boost that was supposed to be

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destined for a laptop but has been frankensteined by

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the one and only mr sue so that it can be installed in a desktop one of these

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is gonna run you just a hundred and twenty five dollars which is pretty good

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for a six course so uh between mr sue and lisa sue

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i think i'll take mr sue any day of the week again as long as you don't mind

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having no warranty whatsoever and buying engineering sample chips

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really though the main value add here is not the CPU

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itself but rather that this CPU allows

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us to get one of these the h110d3a

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is a mining optimized motherboard

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you can see it's got all these pci express slots here for those little

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mining GPU adapters that can be had on ebay for as little as 30 dollars

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and happens to we hope work perfectly with the qqltes

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it's not even the same shape the installation process for this

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abomination here very straightforward you go ahead you

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take this buddy here with the little uh notches you line them up with the little

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notches right there there you go a little something like that oh yeah

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you pop this little like carrier slash hold down plate puppy on

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here and then you just yep you just you screw

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these screws right into the motherboard

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no problem there's actual tapped holes on the back

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oh oh okay i thought we were just screwing into the pcb well that's a little better

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no yeah it's it's like kind of legit okay for cooling you'd be surprised how

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cheap we can go this right here is an Intel stock cooler

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you can probably scavenge one of these for nothing but if you do have to pay

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for them they go for about nine dollars on ebay and that's not a lot of metal

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that's not a lot of cooling there but the good news is that because we're

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using a mobile processor it also doesn't

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output a lot of heat and compared to the

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space constraints that you would have to deal with in a laptop

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this uh yeah looks you know downright frosty one

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thing we want to be careful of when installing the CPU is that we're not

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putting excess pressure on one corner and we're applying it evenly because

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otherwise we could crack that exposed die and our CPU would be

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very dead at that point now when it comes to storage we never

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recommend cheaping out and going second hand because when you think about it

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what's 10 or 20 compared to the value of your precious family photos

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but this is the ruthless economy pc isn't it so

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for our boot drive we went with this samsung 840 series off of ebay it's just

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over 20 dollars and does have a dram cache so we won't expect the slowdowns

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that can happen with d roundless ssds and then because 120 gigs just plain

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ain't enough to store any modern games like warfare type games you know what

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i'm talking about we also went with a one terabyte

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barracuda that was 19

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yeah the great thing about this is that by

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spending only 40 on our storage we were able to get 16 gigs of RAM i mean sure

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it's from a brand that even i've never heard of time tech

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but theoretically i mean those are RAM chips on there sk hynix should be fine right

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right right yeah yeah 60 bucks for those 60

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meet computer case

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it's got compelling features like steel

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it also happens to be extremely lightweight so light i can't

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even get it out of the box

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all of this and no more can be yours for

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just 30 which happens to be 30 more

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than we're willing to spend on a case in a ruthless economy pc

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meet the end tech p180 side of the road

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edition we got this for free

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on the side of the road it has features like no front panel

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look at that unrestricted airflow after we removed these capes up fan filters

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you it might even have bugs it's not a bug it's a feature the

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craziest thing about the p180 sotr edition is that it's not even the most

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defunct thing about itself rip ncix to

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go with our vintage antec case

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we got a vintage antec power supply this

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old reliable you know it's reliable because someone's been running it in

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their gaming rig for the last 10 years it might have uh

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something kind of rattling around inside it but it was only 20 bucks on ebay

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and i'm sure that'll come out if we shake it hard enough

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it's hot glue i wonder what it was holding in place

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i gotta say it's been a spicy minute i think the last time i built in a p180

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series case and tech was still relevant

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hey got him

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it is so dirty and like look at this oh my god

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ew it's dust

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i thought it was like a mark from the heat of the CPU or something gross

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you can actually read the brand it's a zalman lga 775 cooler

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when did these guys go so wrong all right i never installed the RAM

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there we go i guess i'll need some screws uh those

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screws are actually from the not working system that was in that case

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beautiful recycling if your side of the road p180 doesn't

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have uh these screws you too can check your hope in a prayer

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bin and uh hope and pray that you

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find some of them in it they're not wide enough at the head i would need like a

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washer or something instead hopefully they hold it in well enough to at least

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finish this video

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look at this class a cable management we got on this case here

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look at this there's your little cutout right there

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kind of put that through there plug that in the back your hard drive

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right there a little something like that oh yeah

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boom done

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and you just hope it stays out of the fan

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that fan is so freaking dirty

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i also found a screw in it the top fans apparently connect

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the molex so we'll go ahead and i really don't

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like touching this this is really very dirty

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like it smells i did it for the views

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oh this is the most dead fan that i have seen in some time check this out you can

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actually see it's popped out of the frame

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that's okay this one spins

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that one's bit does that just loosen there

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now older cases like this one don't have anywhere to properly mount an SSD so

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we're going to go with right there one time i threw my SSD

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in the drive bay area and it fell out and

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shorted the back of my motherboard i have a solution we're gonna cable manage

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it to hold it in place okay see

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now it cannot fall see perfect

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here's a pretty modern feature actually

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GPU power cables coming up through the basement this case really was ahead of its time

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now it's time to put the cherry on top of our feces

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sunday here this gtx 1070 cost us about 200

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and should deliver anywhere from 30 to 40 percent more performance than the

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1650 that we put in our all brand new parts with warranty's

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gaming machine isn't it beautiful and andy yeah it's a

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slipper it's more than a sleep it's like

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blackout drunk

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wow genuine Intel

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zero cpu000 two point four gigahertz but hey turbo's working it's uh 14 nanometer

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which for Intel means it's either very modern or

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quite old it's coffee lake which tells us more specifically what era it's from so i'm

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expecting actually pretty decent performance from this thing and it

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identifies as a xeon 2400

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so like a mobile xeon fascinating this is a 45 watt chip and

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wait is this one unlocked yeah that might not be the CPU that i thought it was

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yeah we put the wrong CPU in uh

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that's why it wasn't showing up as one that would be unlocked

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so it needs to be one of these in our defense they all kind of look the same

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so while we swap out this CPU it's a good time to point out that with a bare

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dye chip like this it is extremely important to have thermal compound

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covering absolutely everywhere on it

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if you have any part of it that is not thermal pasted

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there is a good chance it will die it won't die it will just

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do really bad no it could die because some part of it that doesn't have a

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proper temperature sensor oh true yeah i don't know it's easy for me to

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say as you know someone with a full-time job and who's an adult and all that that

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you know this is scary and i wouldn't recommend it but teenage me would probably say well

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you're an idiot for buying this when you can get more FPS with that

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of course we need to figure out if it actually gets more FPS first

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it's going to crush it minor details absolutely crushing look that's what we

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think but let's just verify it okay well let's open up xtu here

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oh it says thermal throttling

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what that's weird we're not even doing anything

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oh wait it's better now what'd you do

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did you just give it a little wiggly wiggle yeah did one of the clips not go

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all the way in yeah i think that you just missed one of the clips you want to turn it off and fix that uh sure

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sorry there little CPU oh yeah so it clicked in but it didn't

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click into the motherboard give it a little wiggle

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wow i get a cloud of dust when i press the power button that's exciting i've

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got xtu open and i don't actually know if applying

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anything is going to work yet but it appears as though

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everything is completely unlocked on this puppy so

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that's cool our temps are good we're idling at around 30 degrees now which is

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exactly what i'd expect which means it's time for a quick cinebench drag race run

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you ready genuine Intel

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dang it may be sketchy but it sure sketches

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this scene fast

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wow and it's the same price for these

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machines eh yep exactly the same exactly

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2 800 2300 points so that's a cinebench win

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now to be clear if all you were after was cinebench performance you could also

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go pick yourself up a first gen ryzen 7

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8 core and it would beat the stuffing out of this

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but remember we're after an all-round good experience

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here and that includes gaming

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take that alex boom who's got more FPS

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now baby oh shoot oh my control key oh you have a lot more than me wait why is

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there a control key here that's not control this is there's two controls on the left

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you're gonna have to plant the bomb at some point oh no no no

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no okay cool so let's just like stand here

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and follow our team around so we're anywhere from around 10 15 to

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as high as 20 percent faster on our frankenstein machine compared to all new

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parts let's try one more game before we do that alex

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really wants to try overclocking this thing so what do you think 4.5 gigahertz

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all core yeah we might be able to do 4.7 uh not

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all core that's really aggressive yeah all right there's 4.5 velcro do you want

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to careful it's dead i was about to say give her a bit more voltage

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not something do you want to run a cinebench i would love to it's

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definitely on the struggle bus a little bit but it's running at 4.5 boys

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i'm one point one five oh it's dead it's it's not okay

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we're done you're done but it's off it turned off

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that's weird our hard drive disappeared

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our partition is gone okay

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that's why do maternal won't launch

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uh i mean we did say that using uh used

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hard drives was something we don't recommend

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at least all we lost was some games that's crazy so running 3dmark we're

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looking at as high as 25 30 difference

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in performance going from our 500 value

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rig to our ruthless economy rig making

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this one even more appealing is the fact that it has double the system memory

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which i mean might not be useful in every game but

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could definitely come in handy so there you have it folks

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she might not look like much she might not last for long and she

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might smell real bad but she's got it where it counts the

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ruthless economy build comes out on top

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you can find the links to where to check out all this stuff in the video description as usually happens when we

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make a video about this kind of stuff though it'll probably all be out of stock by the time you look at it but hey

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it's worth a shot you know what else is worth a shot

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checking out our sponsor micro center actually that's great because that's

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probably where you're going to end up going when you look at this and go yeah

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no i don't want any part of that you can get the powerspec g435 computer at micro

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center you can shop online or in person at any of their 25 locations across the

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u.s and the power spec g435 features an Intel core i7 10700 kf 3.8 gigahertz

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processor NVIDIA rtx 2070 super graphics

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32 gigs of RAM and it's packed in a lienly 205 atx computer case so

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basically it's better than this in every possible way

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but of course it does cost a little bit more because like you know warranties

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and little conveniences like that thanks for watching if you guys enjoyed this video

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maybe check out our previous exploration into mr sue's crazy frankenstein cpus

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where we go a little bit more in depth into how they are actually made
