1 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:14,480 AMD finally has a high-end a truly 2 00:00:11,559 --> 00:00:22,359 high-end platform this so this is the 990fx Crosshair 5 formula with an 1100t 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:26,439 8 gigs of RAM a 120 gig SSD it's my 4 00:00:22,359 --> 00:00:29,800 usual test platform except it has two 5 00:00:26,439 --> 00:00:33,160 GTX 590s on it so this is pretty much 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:36,320 the the fastest gaming machine you can 7 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:39,160 build on an AMD 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:43,960 CPU well 6990 would be pretty much equivalent so so it'd be an equivalent 9 00:00:41,239 --> 00:00:49,039 fastest gaming machine so what I'm going to be doing is I'm going to be looking 10 00:00:45,399 --> 00:00:53,359 at once and for all which is better for 11 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:55,680 gaming AMD or Intel CPUs at least from 12 00:00:53,359 --> 00:00:59,239 this generation which won't be relevant uh very soon with bulldozzer coming out 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:04,439 and Intel having a refresh coming but whatever C so we'll know for now so I'm 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:08,000 going to do the 1100t versus the Intel 15 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:11,080 Core i 52500 k now the reason that I'm 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,799 using these two particular chips is that 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:18,200 they are fairly equivalently priced at this time so there is no uh price to 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Performance ratio argument to be made really I mean the 2500k has to win by 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,640 about 10% just to break even so uh yeah 20 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:32,320 let's see how this goes this is going to be mostly Graphics Bound in spite of the 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:36,439 fact fact that I'm running quad SLI with 590s cuz I am going to be running fairly 22 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:41,119 intensive games I may add some more games to the test Suite but let's just 23 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:44,560 see how things go and uh this will be interesting I've uh I've wondered this 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:49,079 for a long time how do these two platforms compare against each other in 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:56,799 a truly equivalent scenario oh yeah for the Intel uh CPU I will be using the 26 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:59,039 z68a gd80 as my motherboard of choice so 27 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:05,880 I've loaded on the Intel platform now this is a Z6 68 platform but I will not 28 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,920 be using the onboard uh 29 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:12,920 Graphics at all so I'm going to be disabling it because turning on virtue 30 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:18,000 actually will impact graphics performance somewhat while it will 31 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:21,360 increase video encoding speed through supported program so I'm just going for 32 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:26,319 peer graphics performance we're assuming this is for a gaming system given that 33 00:02:23,599 --> 00:02:31,200 there are dual GTX 590s in it so I've finished my 1100t results and I will be 34 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:35,319 following up now with my 2500k results I wanted to give you guys a little bit of 35 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:40,360 info first though so for all of these I'm running at 2560 36 00:02:37,519 --> 00:02:44,120 x600 and I'm going with my usual settings so that means for example 37 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:48,879 Witcher 2 I'm not using the very highest setting I'm using High uh for example uh 38 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:54,599 Battlefield Bad Company 2 Forex antialiasing 8times AF uh Fear 3 I had 39 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:59,640 to turn off AA even though normally I use it at 2560 x600 I was getting only 40 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:03,680 about 12 FPS which is not enough for me to play through my run through with the 41 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,760 1100t so I'm turning off antialiasing that made a big difference to 42 00:03:04,799 --> 00:03:12,799 Performance so we'll see how that goes crisis 2 I am using the 43 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:16,720 um shoot I can't remember for the life of me oh yeah the the second the second 44 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:22,959 highest that's right and then Dirt 3 I have it on Ultra so here we go 2500k 45 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:26,799 testing upcoming quad SLI is working let's see how this goes one other thing 46 00:03:24,519 --> 00:03:33,360 to mention actually Mafia 2 I am using Apex physics on high 8X AF and anti-al 47 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:35,879 lasing is set to on so I'm using NVIDIA 48 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:40,120 cards might as well crank up the physx all right so I have my results with the 49 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:46,200 2500k this is all using the same graphical settings so in Dirt 3 we see a 50 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:51,680 12.5% increase in performance so this is about what I would expect given the CPU 51 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:53,400 costs about 10 to 12% more okay in 52 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:58,879 crisis 2 we see a 35.5% difference in performance I mean 53 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:02,879 62.5 frames per second is substantially more playable than 46.8 just due to the 54 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:08,360 fact that you're not going to see those same dips um Witcher two we saw just a 55 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:13,280 very insubstantial increase in performance so we're obviously not very 56 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:17,759 CPU bound here uh fear three now this one's funny I'm going to go back I'm 57 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:21,880 going to put the 1100t with the 990 FX back on the test bench and I'm going to 58 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:26,479 run it again just to be sure but I did run into some weirdness on the AMD 59 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,240 platform with fear 3 where when I was running 60 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,800 anti-aliasing uh the performance was about a third of this it was very very 61 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:39,280 low and just turning off AA brought us up to here whereas on the Intel platform 62 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,560 with with zero times anti-aliasing I didn't see any any weirdness in terms of 63 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:48,160 performance Fear 3 is not a super demanding game so even at 2560 x600 I 64 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:52,600 was expecting more like this number and that's what I got so I'll rerun it just 65 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:57,479 to just to see Battlefield Bad Company 2 it's about par for the course and then 66 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,720 Mafia 2 uh maybe due to the processor 67 00:04:57,479 --> 00:05:04,199 intensive nature of it with all the articles and whatnot and the CPU still 68 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:09,360 has to help out the GPU with that so we ended up seeing a 40 approximately 40% 69 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:17,320 increase in gaming performance going to a 2500k from an 1100t with GTX 70 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:21,000 590s so let's um you know what I'm actually going to since I have to go 71 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,800 throw the other platform back on anyway what maybe what I'll do is I'll run uh 72 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:28,840 I'll run one more game here just cuz it's not quite super super late yet so I 73 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:34,440 can do a little bit more testing for you guys so thinking maybe I'll do um Lost 74 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Planet 2 yeah let's do Lost Planet 2 so I made myself a smoothie and still at 75 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:44,280 work here so I ran Metro 2033 and Lost 76 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,759 Planet 2 so Metro 2033 actually showed 77 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:53,120 the 2500k losing this is the first time I've seen that and then Lost Planet 2 78 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:56,759 showed a 20% victory for the 2500k now 79 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,919 Fear 3 I I put that back on Fear 3 has 80 00:05:56,759 --> 00:06:04,080 um exhibited exactly the same behavior second time around so the 2500k even 81 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:08,800 with four times anti-aliasing still manages a better frame rate than fear 3 82 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:13,479 on the 1100t without anti-aliasing so thinking I mean SLI support is pretty 83 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:16,759 new for AMD platform so maybe there's an issue with the SLI driver what I think 84 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:23,160 I'm going to do well not I think I'm going to do what I'm going to do right now is I'm going to take a 68 oh 68 I 85 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:27,360 don't even have a 68 well I do have a 6870 but I don't have it on me so 86 00:06:27,479 --> 00:06:33,560 6970 there we go so I'm run 69 70s In 87 00:06:31,479 --> 00:06:36,960 Fear 3 alone with the same graphic settings 0 x anti-aliasing a single card 88 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:43,160 I don't think it's going to run that well anyway and then I'm going to run that on both platforms and I'm going to 89 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:46,160 see if it's CPU related or if it's 90 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,520 related to the quad SLI driver all right 91 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:52,360 well it seems to be a weird driver issue in retrospect maybe I should have chosen 92 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:59,120 a more normal Graphics configuration like maybe uh GTX 580 SLI or something 93 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,800 like that I couldn't use 6970 Crossfire because I know crisis 2 behaves very 94 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:07,720 strangely with it from some other benchmarking I did this weekend anyway 95 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:14,520 you can see here the 1100t with the 6970 gets 86.2 96 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:16,479 FPS uh uh at that setting at 2560 x600 97 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:20,199 with this yeah so so that's a substantially less powerful 98 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:24,960 configuration it has like about one qu the GPU processing power so now we're 99 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:29,120 going to take the 2500k run it with the 6970 see how it comes out and that is 100 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:34,400 what we will take to be our performance difference for fear 101 00:07:31,599 --> 00:07:40,479 3 well that was rather anticlimactic after all that fear 3 is a dead tie so 102 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:48,479 thank you for checking out my coverage of the 2500 K versus the 1100t in Quad 103 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:50,159 SLI and In Fear 3 running a 6970 don't 104 00:07:48,479 --> 00:07:56,280 forget to subscribe to Linus Tech tips for more unboxings reviews and other 105 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:56,280 computer videos